October 16, 2025 • 48 mins
The Dodgers will look to take a commanding 3-0 lead in the NLCS tonight at Dodger Stadium. Several owners are going to push even harder for a salary cap in MLB if the Dodgers win the World Series?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Peat on
five seventy LA Sports and good morning to you. Yes,
we are following Tim and Steve today. We're here for
three hours, leading you into Petros and Money, taking you
into the pregame show, and we will have Dodger Baseball
at three oho eight here on the radio station. So
that's why we're jumping on early. And to be quite
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honest with you, we like it. We want to be
here game days. We want to be here with you
as long as we can. As we get ready to
see what happens tonight with the Dodgers. They can go
up three zero in this series, and that would basically
end the series. Now I said yesterday, and to a
degree I still believe it. But I said yesterday, you
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know this thing is over.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's done. Dodger fans, you think it's done, right, you
think this is finished. And now we'll worry.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
About the World Series where the Dodgers are going to
end up anyway. But so I said it's over, it's done.
I'm not saying no sweep, but it's done.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now. You see the game last.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Night Toronto and Seattle, and honestly, going into that series
I thought, Toronto is going to beat those guys, beat
them good. They can hit first two games, first two games,
Seattle wins.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're up too oh. You're thinking, okay, so what's the
difference here?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, Seattle's up too oh on Toronto, and you're thinking, well,
the Dodgers are up two oh on Milwaukee. And if
you use the logic that the Dodgers are going to
sweep or gentlemen sweep Milwaukee, then that should mean Seattle
will do the same thing to Toronto. And last night
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it was as if somebody flipped the switch and it
was oh dear God for the Seattle Mariners. They were
not beaten. They were pounded into submission. It says if
somebody had changed all the bats for the Blue Jays,
because all of a sudden there was no kid in
a round, and they pummeled Seattle to get back in
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the series. So, looking at it like that, could the
Brewers do the same thing to the Dodgers tonight?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now? Tyler Glass now will go for the Dodgers. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I thought he looked super in his last outing, and
by the way, that was his first outing in the playoffs.
So tonight I expect him to pitch very well. Some
say he's the wild card and all of this. Is
he going to be the guy that can give you
length and carry you late into a game.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I am thinking, yes, he can do that. I'm thinking
he can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
As for the Brewers, and at least when Tim and
Steve were on, we don't know who's pitching.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They're undecided. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The Dodgers kind of did that last year with the
bullpen situation. But this year, if you go into a
game like this, this game here undecided, I think you've
probably got more problems Rodney than you'll want to let on.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, I mean you just said it, Fred. Dodgers did
it last year. They were dealing with a bullpen games
and things like that, so they waited to the last minute.
I think that they they're wearing their options to see,
you know, who they want to go to. I don't
think it's I don't think you can overthink it. It
is a little bit rare. What do we at nine am?
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Right now? The game's at three and they still haven't
named the starter, so that's a little But to be fair,
they know who it's going to be right. They already know.
Oh yeah they know, they know, Yeah they know, and
it's a little cat and mouse. I don't think. I
think at this point, down two, you really need to
be playing some catt and mouse games. But but but
you know, maybe the Dodgers are getting ready for a
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righty and they throw a lefty at you, and maybe
they feel like they can get a wrinkle and slow
them down early and they can get ahead and whatever
kind of advantage they think they are. I mean, I
do love their manager. I think he's very charismatic and
the players love him. So I just I don't really
think it's a whole lot of shenanigans. I think it's
just they really aren't sure, fred I really do.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, Well, that's not good for them, you know that's
not good for them. It's it's really clear. It's really
clear watching this now, and if you live here, it's exciting,
and if you live anywhere else you hate it. By far,
the Dodgers are the best team by far. This is
not even a question. It's not even close. They're the best.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm reading. You know, as you know, Kevin sends us notes.
You know every show, and you know you you wake up,
you read and you go through things, and you see
all this stuff about the Dodgers Fred, and it's just
to me, it's it's laughable. We're on every day and
we're talking about them all the time, obviously, but there
there are people that going, they're going, everyone's going back
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to what they said about the Dodgers before the season started.
They're this judg or not, they're unbeatable. They may go
one hundred and sixty two, and oh, you know, no
one's gonna beat the Dodgers. They're stabbed their team, they're
so loaded. And then by July everybody say, this team's
in trouble. I don't know what to do. This team
is just they may not make the playoffs, they may
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not win the division. They're playing like this, they got
they're gonna get bounced in the first round. And everything
comes now back full circle. Oh yeah, they're the juggernaut
we all thought they were.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They're the best team in baseball. It's by far. And
you know why don't you because they have all the money.
Of course, of course they didn't say that in July.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, And that's the point, see, and that's why it's
really so messed up. Last year.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
If the Dodgers had not won the World Series last year,
if they had not won the World Series, you have
to understand that people around the country would be laughing
at them, saying money can't buy everything. And by the way,
it's more than money.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is we found out this year the team with the
most money, Well that doesn't mean anything because they didn't win.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They won, so don't want it turned out to be. Well,
they just have all the money. It doesn't matter how
they put the organization together, how they structure the franchise,
how they invest in other things, how they tried to
build something for sustained success. That is completely irrelevant. That
doesn't matter. It's completely irrelevant. The only thing that's relevant
is well, they have the most money. Oh right, so
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the Mets should have won probably the National League this year.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, I mean just think about that. You say that argument,
But if they have all the money, then they would
have signed Juan Soto, they would have signed Rice Harper
when he was available. If they have all the money,
they Trey Turner or Corey Seeger would still be here.
If they have all the money, all of those guys
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would have been there. But to your point, they were
strategic in how they spent their money. Right, they didn't
go out and spend seven hundred or six hundred or
whatever it may be on Wan soda. They felt they
could get that elsewhere. And right now, you take Oscar
Hernandez Juan Soto, a difference of five hundred million dollars
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those guys are making between, you know, so I'm taking
Taoskar for that price. And this whole notion that because
a guy is paid fifty million dollars more than another guy,
that in the major leagues he's going to be on
a game, any game, any given day, is going to
be that much better than someone else in the major leagues.
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It just doesn't work that way. Certain guys are fortunate
to hit their contract time at the right time and
have good year prior to that and get paid. Some
guys aren't, but they're all major leaguers ready.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So that's interesting you'd say it like that. So basically,
here's a deal. The Dodgers have all the money. Therefore
the Dodgers can spend all the money. Therefore, the Dodgers
can sign whoever they want. So using that logic, yeah,
they should have signed one Soto. They should have held
on to Corey Seeger. They should have kept Trey Turner,
they should have two shortstops that make a lot of money.
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They should sign everybody. They should sign every single person, right,
But you know it's interesting they didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So even though they have all.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
The money, they just chose not to spend all the
money on certain people and then they chose to spend
the money on others. Do you think that has anything
to do with this? Do you believe that trying to
sign the right people has anything to do with this?
Or do you think, well, hell, I've got seven billion
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dollars here and I'm paying everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, that wouldn't have worked, so there's much more to it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Then they have all the money, it's the guys they're
investing in, and they fit a certain mold to play
for the Dodgers and play for this organization.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So Rightney, when you hear that, and if somehow.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The Dodgers lose, if they get knocked out, yeah, and
if I go to before three feet tall, if they
get knocked out, well then no one's going to talk
about it that they have all the money. They're going
to be laughed at. That's that's the inequity in all
of this. That's that's the comical part of this. You know,
there's a sentiment. We were going to talk about it later,
but you open the door. Let's just do it right now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
There's a sentiment that if the Dodgers win, that, more
than anything, is going to cause the small market owners
to push for a salary cap. In other words, the
Dodgers can't just spend. There's going to be a limit
on how much they can spend, and they think that
will equal the playing field, will it? So if the
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if the salary cap is three hundred million dollars, let's
just make up a number, three hundred million. Does that
mean every team will spend three hundred million. No, No,
the Dodgers will. But did that mean every team will? Yeah,
Pittsburgh won't, Cincinnati won't, Cleveland won't, Minnesota won't, Tampa won't,
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Seattle probably won't, Colorado won't. You want to go down
the whole list, the White Sox won't. So even if
you have a salary cap, Okay, well, this will teach
them a lesson.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If there's a salary cap, it's going to be even
worse for teams in major League Baseball. Sure, yeah, because
that's going to be a floor. They've got to be
a floor as well, right, all right, quot a floor in.
So it's going to be worse. And here's why. Whatever
the salary cap, the Dodgers have the best organization in baseball.
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They're so far ahead in scouting and analytics and developing players.
By the way, there's no salary cap on that. There's
no salary cap on developing players, building your front office,
building your support staff. There's no cap on that. And
they're so far ahead of everybody now in that. Are
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you telling me that all of a sudden, because they're
there's a cap, everyone's going to catch up. It's going
to make it worse. It's going to point out the
problems even more. These other teams don't have this front office,
this infrastructure, They don't operate this way, they don't invest
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like this, but the Dodgers do. So if the cap
is three hundred million, you don't think the Dodgers are
going to spend that three hundred million better than anybody
in baseball. You don't think the Dodgers, unlike other teams
because they play the name game. Do you think the
Dodgers are just going to indiscriminately start throwing money around. No,
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they'll still spend the most right up to the limit
if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But these other teams won't spend. So if the limit
is three hundred million, is Pittsburgh going to spend three
hundred million? No? So what changes? Honestly? What changes? Are
ninety percent of the teams going to spend at the
top of the cap? No? What you look.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Better to your fan base, it appears that things have
changed because they can't spend everything. They can spend right
up to the limit, and they will guess who wills
will The Mets, the Yankees, probably the Cubs, the Red Sox,
the Phillies. The Phillies, guess who wills will? Okay, so
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right now, who's spending all the money? Those teams who
would continue to spend all that money even with the
cap to the top of the camp those teams. Does
that mean Colorado suddenly is going to spend like Philadelphia? No,
that's not gonna happen. So if you institute this cap,
what are you really doing? Who are you trying to
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convince this is a much better idea? Well, they just
can't go out and buy every player. Well, compared to you,
they can't. Right, compared to the they can. They can
buy any player they want compared to the White Sox,
compared to the Rents, compared to the Guardians, compared to
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the Rays, compared to the Pirates, compared even to the Tigers,
they can buy any player they want. How's that going
to affect you? Because you're not gonna do it anyway.
Is it gonna happen for you? It's never gonna happen
for you. Cap or no cap. So what are you
complaining about. You're looking at reasons to explain why you're
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not competitive. You're trying to come up with explanations for
your fan base, your customer, the people that spend money
on your team. You're trying to convince them. The problem
is those guys, there's your problem. Don't look at me.
Remember what the owner of the cub said, We're just
trying to break even. Yeah, we barely break even here.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who would say that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Who owning a team would say that to its fan base?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Hey, you better back off, because you know what, we're
fighting to break even here and put this product down
the field. What hey, I just went to Mastros that
steak is forty nine dollars. You better not bitch about
that because you know what it costs us to make it.
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I mean, who would say that? Who would ever say that.
You're openly admitting you can't do it. And by the way,
they play pretty well this.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Year, but you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You're admitting that, you're admitting your inferior in a competitive environment.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Why would you do that? Why would you ever say
that to anybody? We're getting at our best shop, but
you know, even at the old College try and we're
just trying. Hey, we're just trying to break even. Fred,
We're not trying to win. We're just trying to break even.
God forbid. Listen, God forbid we win. Don't if we
win is like seventh on the list. Yeah, we got to.
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It'sh to fry. Don't put that pressure on us. We
don't need it. All these people we have to feed them,
they have families.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Don't put any pressure on us here, because if you
put pressure on us, it's not going to go well
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right, It's get right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That is completely insane. All the owners are trying to
do is admit they're inferior. That's what they're doing. They
have more than we do. It's not fair, so make
it fair so we all have a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's what they're saying. I mean, does Google tell Microsoft, Hey,
you guys are spending too much money on your executives
and we can't compete. So in the industry, we're going
to put a cap on what you can pay our
execs and what anybody can pay the execs. Okay, Microsoft
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and Google and you know, Oracle and all those we
got to put a cap on that. Imagine that happening
in any other business.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That would be like, you're absolutely right, that would be
like when I was a Channel four. Now, when I
was a Channel four, over the years I had a
chance to work, I was offered jobs at Channel two
and Channel seven. During my time at Channel four, I
was offered jobs at Channel two and Channel seven when
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my contract came up, each and every time I spoke
to them, each and every time I elected to stay
at Channel four. Can you imagine if, in fact, during
that period of time, Channel seven offered me x number
of dollars and Channel four called them and said, well,
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We can't allow that. We can all offer the exact
same amount.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, could you.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Imagine if that's how it worked. Hey, Rodney, we've got
an offer to go to another radio station and here
it is, and we go to iHeart and they go,
uh huh, well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We got to call those guys. You're paying too much.
We can only pay this, so you should only be
able to pay this over there. So it's fair. Yeah,
so it's fair. That's not how the world works. Ready,
that's not I'm complaining. You owner, you shouldn't own the team.
You shouldn't own the team if you're worried about that
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and spending money. This is not nineteen sixty you know
where you know, there's no big television contracts and the
money coming in is not generating what it is today.
And every owner is a family owned run business that
they scrapped and scraped and clawed to put it together
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and it's been handed down through generations and that is
the family business. It doesn't work like that anymore. This
is your fourth, fifth, seventh business. Of these guys, maybe
twentieth business. They don't complain and cry poor because you're
shitting on the team in the first place. If you're
going to cry poor.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The other thing is if you buy one of these franchises,
and I know everybody's thinking they can, well none of
us can.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
None of us.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Can you know who can? Stan Kronckey can't. Steve Balmer can, Yeah,
Googenheim can. There's money, and there's real money, real money.
Can't you understand where they buy these teams. First, they
should be in the business to win every time. Second,
they really don't want to lose money. But most importantly,
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the minute you buy one of these teams, this is
an insurance policy for the future. You're not buying the
team right now to make tons of money. What you
make should be reinvested so the product gets better. But
you've bought this because of the appreciation. You've bought this
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because when you go to sell, you can make a
lot of money. Jerry Jones paid one hundred and some
million dollars one hundred and eight million dollars whatever it
was for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It's worth ten billion.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Dollars ardi Moreno what he spent four and twenty five
million something like that for the Angels it's worth three billion.
Why do you think Steve Balmer spent two billion dollars
on the Clippers two billion. When he did that, people
thought that he should be committed to some sort of asylum,
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right remember that, Yeah, he needed electroshock therapy. Why in
the world would you do that? Okay, what's it worth now?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right now? Add the into a dot six seven billion?
Think about that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
When Gougenheim bought the Dodgers for two billion dollars, people went,
oh my god. Because the people that were going to
be bidding in the auction, and I know some of
them and what they were bidding, they thought a billion
five would be it, and that would be a stretch.
That would be the stretch. If they got there, it'd
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be oh my god, somebody spent that much money. The
night before the auction, Mark Walter talks to Frank McCort
and says he got a minute before the auction. Frank saiya,
in a minute, how about we do this. I give
you two billion bucks. Let's just call it a day,
and you can keep part of the parking lots.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There's no auction.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It was done, and at that point people went, oh
my god, they spent two billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
What are the Dodgers worth now? How much? How much?
That's pretty good? Investment, very good investment. Yeah, they've got
to be in the double digit billion range. I'm sure
they are. It's the Cowboys, Yankees, Dodgers are right there.
You know, think about it just went ten billion dollars,
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ten billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Think about that, the Likers, Thekers went for ten billion
dollars a franchise that there is not a great deal
of an investment in because it's family owned. The appreciation
is simply because it exists and has had success. Ten
billion dollars and you go, oh my god, ten billion dollars,
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what's that going to be worth in ten years fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And we're not talking that it went there and you
know over generations of degenerations after generations. This is this
is in one lifetime, I mean one short period of
your life. Think about Steve Bomer bought that team win.
He bought the Clippers in what two twenty I can't
exactly remember, ten years he's own it something like that
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around there. When does sound right? Let's say ten it's
only the Clippers in ten years to two billion dollars
on it, he's already doubled that, probably tripled it. Now
triple that investment within that period of time, and you
know you did. You know you're right about that. It's
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not about pulling your money out right now, which is
why we hate these owners crying broke, because when you
do sell it, you're gonna make a ton of money.
That's what this is about. That, that's why people buy
these teams, by the way, that's why. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So when you when you plead poverty, when you cry poor,
you don't have to be poor.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You could sell it right now. Not a problem. We
just don't have the money. You can have the money
in two hours. Sell it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Sell you'll get the money you invest it and you'll
probably double or triple it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, sell it, Go sit on a beach. There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now you have all the money you need. So it's
not a problem anymore, is it? Because you got what
you need.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And the crazy theme that they cry broke and the
way sports franchises are the cost and the value of
evaluation of them, is that these people still call cry
broke and you go look up and Forbes comes out
with the list and this team is worth this and
this what do you telling like you just said sell
the team. Then if your crying broke, sell the team
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and everything will be all right exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
If you're unhappy, we're unhappy. If you're troubled, we can't sleep.
We have the solution for you. Just sell the team.
You'll have all the money you want. You'll have more
money than you ever dream possible. It's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's simple.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But what you do in these situations is you try
to convince your fan base, your customers.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's unfair, and that's all this is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's unfair. We can't compete because those guys spend like that.
Well you can spend like that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Too, you can. You choose not to.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And if you make the argument, well just to operate
this thing, we don't have that kind of cash, then.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Don't operate it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think people want you to feel sorry for those
who say we just don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like robin Hood. This is like robin Hood. Take
from the rich and gift to the poor. Okay, well,
all of the poor owners still can eat porridge. It's fine.
They're not starving to death.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
See, they probably have private planes, their suites are catered
every game, probably with filet or lobster. They have money,
they just don't want to spend it. And if you
don't want to spend it. You sell to the team,
make it easy. That's why when we hear the argument
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about the Brewers, look at the small market team instead
of saying, you see the Dodgers beating the Brewers. It's
unfair to the Brewers because just think if the playing
field was leveled. How about this way to go, Brewers.
You made the most with what you have. You are
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figuring it out, you are competitive, you can make a difference,
You can do all of those things. But instead we
turn around and we say, well, just imagine if the
Brewers had what the Dodgers have. The Brewers seemed to
be doing just fine. If the Dodgers didn't have the
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pitching they have right now, if all of their pitchers
were hurt and not healthy at this point, if they
were all hurt and not healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
The Brewers could win. The Brewers could win. So what
would that mean? What would that mean?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The Brewers didn't need any more money. They could win.
Your pitchers are healthy. The plan works, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And if this series were tied, or even they were
up two oh on the Dodgers, this conversation would not exist.
No one would talk about it, no one would say
anything about it right. See, if anything, it would be
like you said, the reverse, ha ha ha. They spend
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all that money and they can't win. They're gonna lose.
Spend all that money. See, money can't buy you championships.
That would be the narrative right now. It's uh yeah,
it's it's it's so ridiculous the argument against and it's
such a defeatist argument and attitude for people to say, well,
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they just spend more money than everybody else, that's why
they win. Had nothing to do with the players and
talent and Yamamodo pitching nine innings or you know Blake
Snell going eight plus and you know Tioscar hitting the
home run, Key k coming through and the clutch like
he always had nothing to do with all that. It's
just they spend money.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Let me ask you, robots, let me ask you this.
Your guy was signed immediately, Blake Snell. I mean, that
had to be the quickest free agent signing in the
history of Scott Bores.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
There was not even a messing around Boom signed. Okay,
could the Yankees have signed Blake Snell? Could the Phillies
of sign Blake Snell?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah? Could they? They probably could. They didn't, did they.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, that's on you. That's on you. Could you have
paid him when he gets paid by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You could.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That's on you. That's not on the Dodgers. Who got
the better deal? Dodgers or Yankees?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Blake Snell?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Max Free? Who who got the better deal? Dodgers and
you love Max Free?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Great? They got the better guy? Who's that on?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's on you? The Mets spent seven hundred and sixty
million dollars on one Soto. The Dodgers could have spent
that if they chose to. They didn't. They realized that
at that price point it wasn't worth it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
The Mets spent it. Who's that on the Mets? That's
on you. That's not on the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So people complain when they feel things are inequitable, The
truth of the matter is that's on them. You gotta
stop whining. Okay, we're on early today. We're covering up
Colin as we get ready for Game three. Out of
the stadium, the three o eight start, the dreaded three
o eight start. Now I believe Kevin? Are you there?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
No? I'm not okay? Great?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Uh, thank you? No, I'm not Kevin. We're giving me
there where, we where, wherever he's supposed to.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Be on the air, everywhere, as Ben Mallow would say, yes, Fred,
I'm here, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, and I forgot so I have to just ask
you now because early and it's a little harder for us.
We're giving something away next, Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yes, we have a gift card to a Hammer and Nails,
a men's grooming shop.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Really good kick.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So we're gonna give something away, a gift card to
Hammer and Nails. Oh there it is the men's grooming
shop for the person if they can play and win.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Who dis It's back today? It's a Dodger edition of
who Dis is it? Who this? And know your squad?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It was a late change Rodney, so he was gonna
do this and not know your squad? Okay checking, Oh
I'm fair. You know how fra it is, so I
get it. Yeah, it was me this time. So it's
who Look at Fred laughing so hard?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You just teasing look at him.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's time to bring it back eight six, six, nine
eighty seven, two five seventy you call. If you beat Rodney,
you win the Hammer and Nails gift card.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Let's go Never right. But if Rodney beat you.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
We're gonna open it up to everybody eight six six nine,
eight seven two five seventy who is feeling it on
a Thursday morning, Get in here and let's give it
a shot.
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Speaker 2 (30:34):
Uh yeah, it is a throwback Thursday. We're on in
the morning today, Fred. It kind of feels good sometimes
be on in the morning. Hello, I like doing you
know what I like doing this this show? Yeah? I
like doing the nine o'clock show. Get you Started, Get
Your Up? Yeah, kind of like it too. Yeah. Well
(30:59):
they're an gonna put us in here for Colin. Oh no,
that won't happen though.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know when we do, when we get to
do it, it's a lot of fun because you're just
starting the day. People are fired up and ready excited
about what might happen, and Mark in Orange, I guarantee
you he is excited.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Mark, good morning, Good morning. I am excited. Dodgers are
gonna win.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah they are, Yeah they are. You think last now
will go all the way tonight? You think you'll go
nine innings?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I no, I don't think so. I hope so, but
I don't think so. All right, Well we'll see. We'll sing.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I have more confidence at this point than you do.
That means absolutely nothing. I might add Mark zero.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So you think he goes nine? I do? I think
all the way tonight? You do? You do? Huh? I
think he can't. He's got the stuff exactly, He's got
the stuff. He's he's capable.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, I think I think he could do it. All Right,
we're gonna play who Is. We haven't played in a while.
So here's how we play who Is. I'm gonna give
you a clue. There are four clues per category. If
you think you know who this is, just yell out
the name.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
If you think you know who it is, yell out
the name. Now we have Okay, there are oh my god,
we got a lot of questions. All right, So here's
the deal. Mark, You gotta win. You gotta beat Rodney.
If you beat Rodney, you win the Hammer and Nails
gift card. But if you don't, if you come up short,
if somehow it doesn't go your way, what we have to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Do is open it up for everybody.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You cool, Yeah, there, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I made twelve All Star teams in my MLB career,
and these are all Dodgers. I made twelve All Star
teams in my MLB career. Anybody got a guess.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Twelve? That's right in my MLB or Hers Shire, Steve
Garvey Ron, Okay, all right, No, we're not doing that
all three or wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not gonna let you start yelling out five thousand
names at a time this time, Jimmy Win. Well there,
you brought that out a little early, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You brought up the toy cannon a little early today, Rodney?
I did. I did. We're on early, Fritz, I got
to bring out the toy cannon, all right, Mark, do
you even want to try? I made the All Star
teams and my mlbagger Okay, Bothy're incorrect.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm going to the second clue, and if at any
point anybody wants me to give them a bonus clue.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I will here's the second clue.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I won two World Series titles and one World Series
MVP Award.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Two World Series titles and.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
One World Series MVP. Who would you say, Marty friedman ready, No,
l no next clue? I let the al and RBA.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No. I let the.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Al and RBI in nineteen ninety nine and won the
batting title in two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Manny Ramirez, Manny Ramirez is correct, Rodney's on the board,
and Manny just being Manny, Manny just being. I was
gonna say, Manny, good job. All right, here's your next one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I made two All Star teams in my thirteen year
MLB career.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Really, that's the clue that you're staring at us for.
I made two All Star teams in my thirteen year career.
We go to do the Dodgers list by year for
the last thirty years. Ready, next, give me the next clue?
Is what I'm saying. I won two World Series titles
with the Dodgers. Ooh ron said Davey Lop, Steve Garby,
(35:05):
Oral Hershiser, No next clue, claygen Kershaw, no market Ready.
I was a time I was a two time AL
Manager of the Year. Joe Tory.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Mike Yes, Mark's on the board, Mike's Oshian very good
tie score.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Let's move on.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Prior to my fifteen year MLB career, I played baseball
at Long Beach Polly in U c l A.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Jared Who do you got Mark? Jared No, not Jared,
Eric Davis not Eric Davis, Eric Carrolls not Eric Carrolls.
Next clue. I was a six time NL All Star
(35:59):
Matt kim No, and he was a dirt bag. Next clue.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, I won my only World Series title with the
Phillies in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Jimmy Rowlins No.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Oh uhhh uh uh oh, yes, oh yes, you know
what Rodney?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I do I do?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Final clue, damn it. After leaving Philly, I finished my
career with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, he did. God, I can't think of his name. Utley.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Mark gets it. Chase Utley, good job, Mark. Rodney was right.
I saw him. You were ready.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I was ready, you were ready. I was ready. He
was a dirt b oh man. That's a good surprise.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know what they don always say about Chase Hutley,
That guy will give you a hard ninety, remember, right,
you give you.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
A hard nine. Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right,
here's an next one.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I was a sixth round draft pick of the Dodgers
in two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Next week around two thousand and three. Now, you're not
going to get it good. Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was a three time All Star and three time
Gold Glove winner with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
M No. One Germany No.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
After leaving the Dodgers for three seasons, I returned in
twenty eighteen and made my final All Star team the.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Bishop not the Bishop. Final clue. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I was traded from the Dodgers to the Padres for
Yao's Moni Grondal prior to the twenty fifteen season. Traded
to the Dodgers to the Padres trade Dodgers Padres for
Yao's Monti Grondal prior to the twenty fifteen season. Yes,
he was outfielder Matt Kimp Matt Kemp is correct, Rodney,
(38:05):
good job, Yay, all.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Right, we're tired here. Mark. You're still in the game, Baby,
You're still in the game. Let's go as a walk
on at UCLA. Ended up being drafted in the twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Eighth round of the ninety four draft by the then Cleveland, India.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Dave Roberts correct, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man, Okay, okay, so now this is critical, Mark, this
is critical. You have two questions left, you're one behind.
If Rodney gets this, the game is over and we
opened it up for everybody. Okay, yes, all right, And
(38:51):
I will give you a free guess off the top.
I will give you the first clue and give you
a free gat.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What we're doing nowadays, what we're doing, little Owen, little Owen,
what were we doing? Here? We go? Mark for you money,
get you boy? All right?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I was a three time All Star with the Dodgers.
You get one free guest, Mark, she was careful.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Welling, Jared incorrect. Everybody's back in play.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I was drafted in the seventeenth round of the seventy
nine draft by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The seventy nine draft. Mm hmm, no, good good fold
goodwin good one see sex Mike Marshall. Mike Marshall, No,
I was waiting for that one too. Sex Guerrero Marshall,
Pedro Guerrero, not Padro.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
All right, Now listen up, I think somebody's going to
get it on this clue. If it's you, Mark, the
game continues. If it's Rodney, the game is over. Are
you ready, yes, sir, here we go. I won the
cy Young and World Series MVP Awards in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Or her side, and that's it. The game is over,
Oral Hersheizer, Mark, wait a minute before? Oh wait, oh
we went hold on, wait, you know what we're going
to delay route. No, we've got a challenge. Mark. Are
you're throwing your challenge flag? I'm throwing my challenge flag,
I said before.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, all right, we've got a challenge. So we're gonna
go back and check the tape.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
If in fact you're right, the game continues for the win.
So Kevin, and I think Katie is working today. She is,
uh there diligently.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Oh, going back? We got it, Kevin, Yes, I have
it ready. All right, here we go. Let's listen. I
won the cy Young and.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
World Series MVP Awards in nineteen eighty eight, or her siting,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
The game is okay. Why don't you hear that? Yeah, yeah,
that's to happen. I just got one thing that say
to you lin never lout, never lout, baby, never Los.
All right, Mark, thanks for playing. Hang up immediately, Hang up.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right now, because once we give the Q to call,
you can call back in and win. So I hang
up right. There goes Mark, Rodney, good job. We haven't
played in a while, but you keep your streak alive.
A little round, little rusty, but game back strong. Who
wants the gift card to hammer in Nails? Eight sixty
six nine eight seven two five seventy. I like number seven?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Fred? You want number seven? Yeah? Number seven like caller seven.
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Speaker 2 (42:26):
Oh Yes, coming at you on a beautiful throwback Thursday morning,
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan getting ready for Game three out
at shapez Ravine. The Dodgers Brewers get it going for
Game three. Tyler Glass now going for the Dodgers, and
we still don't know do we know yet who's pitching
for I've not heard.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I've not heard they know, but they're just they're holding
out on this and does it really matter? Top secret
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You've won a sixty dollars gift card. What do he go, Gilbert?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
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pedicure while you're there. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
So during the playoffs, it's interesting to see who people
root for. Tyrese Haliburton, for example, Indiana pacer star, you know,
recovering from surgery but still bona fide star, one of
the top players.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, and he is now rooting for the Dodgers. He's
rooting for the Dodgers. He plays in Indiana. Interesting, when
the Brewers were playing the Cobs, he was rooting for
the Cobs. So now anytime the Brewers play a team,
he is rooting for the other team.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
He actually wears the jersey of the other team. So
what would cause him to do that? What would cause
him to do that? Rodney. What do you think it
was because he was a Brewers fan, right. I believe
he was a Brewers fan at one point, and then
(44:14):
he switched allegiance to anybody that's playing the Brewers, right,
I don't know the Brewers do something bad to him. Well,
here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
He was scheduled to throw out a pitch in twenty
twenty four for the Brewers because he loved the Brewers.
He was a huge Brewers fan, so he was scheduled
to throw it out. He was excited. You know, he
was working from the rubber because he was gonna he
was gonna nail it. But then, prior to that, I
think what happened was the Pacers knocked the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Out of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
After the Pacers eliminated the Bucks, the Brewers called and said,
you can't throw out the first pitch anymore because the
Pacers eliminated the Bucks. The Brewers said, uh uh, you
cannot throw the first pitch out anymore. So they they
took it away from him because Indiana knocked out Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh no, that's what happened to me. That's not the
reason they did that. They took it away this a
guy is a Brewers fan and supporting the Brewers, and
because his team in another sport beat the local Milwaukee
Bucks team, they decided to rescind the first pitch. That's
(45:26):
bush lea Fred. That is then that's what happened they did.
They take it away and say, listen, it's just it's
too fresh in everybody's mind. You just knocked them out.
Maybe we do this at a later date, maybe August September.
You come back and throw the first pitch, or they
just said, well, you just beat our Bucks, so we
can't have you thrown out the first bitch. You might
(45:47):
get booed out there. I think that maybe they were
thinking they were looking out for him Fred.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Maybe, but to be fair, to be fair, if they
were looking out for him, they would have said what
you suggested the first time, Tyrene, we want you to
throw it out, and we love you're a huge Brewer fan.
It means a world to us, but we're just gonna
postpone this a little bit. It's too fresh, it's too current.
Give us a little time and you'll be back out
(46:14):
there and you'll throw.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That would have been the way to handle it, but
apparently they just said, you're not doing.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It, You're out. No, we can't have this.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
And he's like, okay, then I'm a free agent. I'm
a free agent baseball fan. And what did he do
as a free agent? He and us and signed with
any team playing the Brewers. Who's ever playing the Brewers?
He's their fan. Now, by the way, he loved the
fact that the Dodgers won Game one. He love the
(46:46):
fact that Dodgers won Game one, so he must be thrilled.
They've won two games. And who knows, maybe he'll be
at the stadium tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So now it's preseason and soever he goes, he shows
up with the team that's playing the Brewers. Yes, right,
because I think, yeah, someone had a Dodger jersey on.
He's trolling them for it. Yeah. When they were playing
the Cubs, he showed up with a Cub jersey every time.
(47:15):
Uh yeah, there's so many better ways that the Brewers
could have handled that. Instead of just saying, hey, we're
gonna take back the offer, I'm sure he would have understood,
like this is too fresh, it's too quick. You know,
we're looking out for you. We don't want you to
get booed as you throw out the first pitch because
fans would boot if it was you know, they had
(47:36):
just knocked him out and it was only like a
week old or two weeks old. Of course fans in
Milwaukee would have booted him. And do you want that?
But the way it sounds is that they didn't present
to him like that, fred which is why he switched allegiance.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Right, Well, you know what, that was pretty stupid on
their part, wasn't it. It's all in communication, Rodney, It's yes, yes, yes,
Just be straight up and honest with folks. That's all
people want, Freddy, all people want. Man, did you see?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Uh? Who was gonna say? I know we're gonna talk
about this later, but o Tani coming out and taking
batting practice.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, we will talk about that. We'll get to that
as a matter of fact, coming up this hour. All right,
that's one of the topics on the table this hour.
And when we come back, how about the man in
the big chair our good bye joining the show.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah,
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Peat on
five seventy LA Sports and good morning to you. Yes,
we are following Tim and Steve today. We're here for
three hours, leading you into Petros and Money, taking you
into the pregame show, and we will have Dodger Baseball
at three oho eight here on the radio station. So
that's why we're jumping on early. And to be quite
(00:22):
honest with you, we like it. We want to be
here game days. We want to be here with you
as long as we can. As we get ready to
see what happens tonight with the Dodgers. They can go
up three zero in this series, and that would basically
end the series. Now I said yesterday, and to a
degree I still believe it. But I said yesterday, you
(00:45):
know this thing is over.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's done. Dodger fans, you think it's done, right, you
think this is finished. And now we'll worry.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
About the World Series where the Dodgers are going to
end up anyway. But so I said it's over, it's done.
I'm not saying no sweep, but it's done.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now. You see the game last.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Night Toronto and Seattle, and honestly, going into that series
I thought, Toronto is going to beat those guys, beat
them good. They can hit first two games, first two games,
Seattle wins.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're up too oh. You're thinking, okay, so what's the
difference here?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean, Seattle's up too oh on Toronto, and you're thinking, well,
the Dodgers are up two oh on Milwaukee. And if
you use the logic that the Dodgers are going to
sweep or gentlemen sweep Milwaukee, then that should mean Seattle
will do the same thing to Toronto. And last night
(01:43):
it was as if somebody flipped the switch and it
was oh dear God for the Seattle Mariners. They were
not beaten. They were pounded into submission. It says if
somebody had changed all the bats for the Blue Jays,
because all of a sudden there was no kid in
a round, and they pummeled Seattle to get back in
(02:07):
the series. So, looking at it like that, could the
Brewers do the same thing to the Dodgers tonight?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now? Tyler Glass now will go for the Dodgers. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I thought he looked super in his last outing, and
by the way, that was his first outing in the playoffs.
So tonight I expect him to pitch very well. Some
say he's the wild card and all of this. Is
he going to be the guy that can give you
length and carry you late into a game.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I am thinking, yes, he can do that. I'm thinking
he can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
As for the Brewers, and at least when Tim and
Steve were on, we don't know who's pitching.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They're undecided. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The Dodgers kind of did that last year with the
bullpen situation. But this year, if you go into a
game like this, this game here undecided, I think you've
probably got more problems Rodney than you'll want to let on.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, I mean you just said it, Fred. Dodgers did
it last year. They were dealing with a bullpen games
and things like that, so they waited to the last minute.
I think that they they're wearing their options to see,
you know, who they want to go to. I don't
think it's I don't think you can overthink it. It
is a little bit rare. What do we at nine am?
(03:27):
Right now? The game's at three and they still haven't
named the starter, so that's a little But to be fair,
they know who it's going to be right. They already know.
Oh yeah they know, they know, Yeah they know, and
it's a little cat and mouse. I don't think. I
think at this point, down two, you really need to
be playing some catt and mouse games. But but but
you know, maybe the Dodgers are getting ready for a
(03:49):
righty and they throw a lefty at you, and maybe
they feel like they can get a wrinkle and slow
them down early and they can get ahead and whatever
kind of advantage they think they are. I mean, I
do love their manager. I think he's very charismatic and
the players love him. So I just I don't really
think it's a whole lot of shenanigans. I think it's
just they really aren't sure, fred I really do.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, Well, that's not good for them, you know that's
not good for them. It's it's really clear. It's really
clear watching this now, and if you live here, it's exciting,
and if you live anywhere else you hate it. By far,
the Dodgers are the best team by far. This is
not even a question. It's not even close. They're the best.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm reading. You know, as you know, Kevin sends us notes.
You know every show, and you know you you wake up,
you read and you go through things, and you see
all this stuff about the Dodgers Fred, and it's just
to me, it's it's laughable. We're on every day and
we're talking about them all the time, obviously, but there
there are people that going, they're going, everyone's going back
(04:55):
to what they said about the Dodgers before the season started.
They're this judg or not, they're unbeatable. They may go
one hundred and sixty two, and oh, you know, no
one's gonna beat the Dodgers. They're stabbed their team, they're
so loaded. And then by July everybody say, this team's
in trouble. I don't know what to do. This team
is just they may not make the playoffs, they may
(05:15):
not win the division. They're playing like this, they got
they're gonna get bounced in the first round. And everything
comes now back full circle. Oh yeah, they're the juggernaut
we all thought they were.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They're the best team in baseball. It's by far. And
you know why don't you because they have all the money.
Of course, of course they didn't say that in July.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, And that's the point, see, and that's why it's
really so messed up. Last year.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
If the Dodgers had not won the World Series last year,
if they had not won the World Series, you have
to understand that people around the country would be laughing
at them, saying money can't buy everything. And by the way,
it's more than money.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is we found out this year the team with the
most money, Well that doesn't mean anything because they didn't win.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They won, so don't want it turned out to be. Well,
they just have all the money. It doesn't matter how
they put the organization together, how they structure the franchise,
how they invest in other things, how they tried to
build something for sustained success. That is completely irrelevant. That
doesn't matter. It's completely irrelevant. The only thing that's relevant
is well, they have the most money. Oh right, so
(06:23):
the Mets should have won probably the National League this year.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, I mean just think about that. You say that argument,
But if they have all the money, then they would
have signed Juan Soto, they would have signed Rice Harper
when he was available. If they have all the money,
they Trey Turner or Corey Seeger would still be here.
If they have all the money, all of those guys
(06:47):
would have been there. But to your point, they were
strategic in how they spent their money. Right, they didn't
go out and spend seven hundred or six hundred or
whatever it may be on Wan soda. They felt they
could get that elsewhere. And right now, you take Oscar
Hernandez Juan Soto, a difference of five hundred million dollars
(07:07):
those guys are making between, you know, so I'm taking
Taoskar for that price. And this whole notion that because
a guy is paid fifty million dollars more than another guy,
that in the major leagues he's going to be on
a game, any game, any given day, is going to
be that much better than someone else in the major leagues.
(07:30):
It just doesn't work that way. Certain guys are fortunate
to hit their contract time at the right time and
have good year prior to that and get paid. Some
guys aren't, but they're all major leaguers ready.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So that's interesting you'd say it like that. So basically,
here's a deal. The Dodgers have all the money. Therefore
the Dodgers can spend all the money. Therefore, the Dodgers
can sign whoever they want. So using that logic, yeah,
they should have signed one Soto. They should have held
on to Corey Seeger. They should have kept Trey Turner,
they should have two shortstops that make a lot of money.
(08:02):
They should sign everybody. They should sign every single person, right,
But you know it's interesting they didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So even though they have all.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
The money, they just chose not to spend all the
money on certain people and then they chose to spend
the money on others. Do you think that has anything
to do with this? Do you believe that trying to
sign the right people has anything to do with this?
Or do you think, well, hell, I've got seven billion
(08:34):
dollars here and I'm paying everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, that wouldn't have worked, so there's much more to it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Then they have all the money, it's the guys they're
investing in, and they fit a certain mold to play
for the Dodgers and play for this organization.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So Rightney, when you hear that, and if somehow.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The Dodgers lose, if they get knocked out, yeah, and
if I go to before three feet tall, if they
get knocked out, well then no one's going to talk
about it that they have all the money. They're going
to be laughed at. That's that's the inequity in all
of this. That's that's the comical part of this. You know,
there's a sentiment. We were going to talk about it later,
but you open the door. Let's just do it right now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
There's a sentiment that if the Dodgers win, that, more
than anything, is going to cause the small market owners
to push for a salary cap. In other words, the
Dodgers can't just spend. There's going to be a limit
on how much they can spend, and they think that
will equal the playing field, will it? So if the
(09:39):
if the salary cap is three hundred million dollars, let's
just make up a number, three hundred million. Does that
mean every team will spend three hundred million. No, No,
the Dodgers will. But did that mean every team will? Yeah,
Pittsburgh won't, Cincinnati won't, Cleveland won't, Minnesota won't, Tampa won't,
(10:01):
Seattle probably won't, Colorado won't. You want to go down
the whole list, the White Sox won't. So even if
you have a salary cap, Okay, well, this will teach
them a lesson.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
If there's a salary cap, it's going to be even
worse for teams in major League Baseball. Sure, yeah, because
that's going to be a floor. They've got to be
a floor as well, right, all right, quot a floor in.
So it's going to be worse. And here's why. Whatever
the salary cap, the Dodgers have the best organization in baseball.
(10:34):
They're so far ahead in scouting and analytics and developing players.
By the way, there's no salary cap on that. There's
no salary cap on developing players, building your front office,
building your support staff. There's no cap on that. And
they're so far ahead of everybody now in that. Are
(10:54):
you telling me that all of a sudden, because they're
there's a cap, everyone's going to catch up. It's going
to make it worse. It's going to point out the
problems even more. These other teams don't have this front office,
this infrastructure, They don't operate this way, they don't invest
(11:15):
like this, but the Dodgers do. So if the cap
is three hundred million, you don't think the Dodgers are
going to spend that three hundred million better than anybody
in baseball. You don't think the Dodgers, unlike other teams
because they play the name game. Do you think the
Dodgers are just going to indiscriminately start throwing money around. No,
(11:38):
they'll still spend the most right up to the limit
if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But these other teams won't spend. So if the limit
is three hundred million, is Pittsburgh going to spend three
hundred million? No? So what changes? Honestly? What changes? Are
ninety percent of the teams going to spend at the
top of the cap? No? What you look.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Better to your fan base, it appears that things have
changed because they can't spend everything. They can spend right
up to the limit, and they will guess who wills
will The Mets, the Yankees, probably the Cubs, the Red Sox,
the Phillies. The Phillies, guess who wills will? Okay, so
(12:26):
right now, who's spending all the money? Those teams who
would continue to spend all that money even with the
cap to the top of the camp those teams. Does
that mean Colorado suddenly is going to spend like Philadelphia? No,
that's not gonna happen. So if you institute this cap,
what are you really doing? Who are you trying to
(12:48):
convince this is a much better idea? Well, they just
can't go out and buy every player. Well, compared to you,
they can't. Right, compared to the they can. They can
buy any player they want compared to the White Sox,
compared to the Rents, compared to the Guardians, compared to
(13:10):
the Rays, compared to the Pirates, compared even to the Tigers,
they can buy any player they want. How's that going
to affect you? Because you're not gonna do it anyway.
Is it gonna happen for you? It's never gonna happen
for you. Cap or no cap. So what are you
complaining about. You're looking at reasons to explain why you're
(13:34):
not competitive. You're trying to come up with explanations for
your fan base, your customer, the people that spend money
on your team. You're trying to convince them. The problem
is those guys, there's your problem. Don't look at me.
Remember what the owner of the cub said, We're just
trying to break even. Yeah, we barely break even here.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who would say that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Who owning a team would say that to its fan base?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Hey, you better back off, because you know what, we're
fighting to break even here and put this product down
the field. What hey, I just went to Mastros that
steak is forty nine dollars. You better not bitch about
that because you know what it costs us to make it.
(14:21):
I mean, who would say that? Who would ever say that.
You're openly admitting you can't do it. And by the way,
they play pretty well this.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Year, but you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You're admitting that, you're admitting your inferior in a competitive environment.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Why would you do that? Why would you ever say
that to anybody? We're getting at our best shop, but
you know, even at the old College try and we're
just trying. Hey, we're just trying to break even. Fred,
We're not trying to win. We're just trying to break even.
God forbid. Listen, God forbid we win. Don't if we
win is like seventh on the list. Yeah, we got to.
(15:03):
It'sh to fry. Don't put that pressure on us. We
don't need it. All these people we have to feed them,
they have families.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Don't put any pressure on us here, because if you
put pressure on us, it's not going to go well
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right, It's get right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That is completely insane. All the owners are trying to
do is admit they're inferior. That's what they're doing. They
have more than we do. It's not fair, so make
it fair so we all have a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's what they're saying. I mean, does Google tell Microsoft, Hey,
you guys are spending too much money on your executives
and we can't compete. So in the industry, we're going
to put a cap on what you can pay our
execs and what anybody can pay the execs. Okay, Microsoft
(15:58):
and Google and you know, Oracle and all those we
got to put a cap on that. Imagine that happening
in any other business.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That would be like, you're absolutely right, that would be
like when I was a Channel four. Now, when I
was a Channel four, over the years I had a
chance to work, I was offered jobs at Channel two
and Channel seven. During my time at Channel four, I
was offered jobs at Channel two and Channel seven when
(16:31):
my contract came up, each and every time I spoke
to them, each and every time I elected to stay
at Channel four. Can you imagine if, in fact, during
that period of time, Channel seven offered me x number
of dollars and Channel four called them and said, well,
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We can't allow that. We can all offer the exact
same amount.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, could you.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Imagine if that's how it worked. Hey, Rodney, we've got
an offer to go to another radio station and here
it is, and we go to iHeart and they go,
uh huh, well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
We got to call those guys. You're paying too much.
We can only pay this, so you should only be
able to pay this over there. So it's fair. Yeah,
so it's fair. That's not how the world works. Ready,
that's not I'm complaining. You owner, you shouldn't own the team.
You shouldn't own the team if you're worried about that
(17:38):
and spending money. This is not nineteen sixty you know
where you know, there's no big television contracts and the
money coming in is not generating what it is today.
And every owner is a family owned run business that
they scrapped and scraped and clawed to put it together
(17:59):
and it's been handed down through generations and that is
the family business. It doesn't work like that anymore. This
is your fourth, fifth, seventh business. Of these guys, maybe
twentieth business. They don't complain and cry poor because you're
shitting on the team in the first place. If you're
going to cry poor.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
The other thing is if you buy one of these franchises,
and I know everybody's thinking they can, well none of
us can.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
None of us.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Can you know who can? Stan Kronckey can't. Steve Balmer can, Yeah,
Googenheim can. There's money, and there's real money, real money.
Can't you understand where they buy these teams. First, they
should be in the business to win every time. Second,
they really don't want to lose money. But most importantly,
(18:49):
the minute you buy one of these teams, this is
an insurance policy for the future. You're not buying the
team right now to make tons of money. What you
make should be reinvested so the product gets better. But
you've bought this because of the appreciation. You've bought this
(19:10):
because when you go to sell, you can make a
lot of money. Jerry Jones paid one hundred and some
million dollars one hundred and eight million dollars whatever it
was for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It's worth ten billion.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Dollars ardi Moreno what he spent four and twenty five
million something like that for the Angels it's worth three billion.
Why do you think Steve Balmer spent two billion dollars
on the Clippers two billion. When he did that, people
thought that he should be committed to some sort of asylum,
(19:41):
right remember that, Yeah, he needed electroshock therapy. Why in
the world would you do that? Okay, what's it worth now?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right now? Add the into a dot six seven billion?
Think about that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
When Gougenheim bought the Dodgers for two billion dollars, people went,
oh my god. Because the people that were going to
be bidding in the auction, and I know some of
them and what they were bidding, they thought a billion
five would be it, and that would be a stretch.
That would be the stretch. If they got there, it'd
(20:16):
be oh my god, somebody spent that much money. The
night before the auction, Mark Walter talks to Frank McCort
and says he got a minute before the auction. Frank saiya,
in a minute, how about we do this. I give
you two billion bucks. Let's just call it a day,
and you can keep part of the parking lots.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There's no auction.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It was done, and at that point people went, oh
my god, they spent two billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
What are the Dodgers worth now? How much? How much?
That's pretty good? Investment, very good investment. Yeah, they've got
to be in the double digit billion range. I'm sure
they are. It's the Cowboys, Yankees, Dodgers are right there.
You know, think about it just went ten billion dollars,
(21:02):
ten billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Think about that, the Likers, Thekers went for ten billion
dollars a franchise that there is not a great deal
of an investment in because it's family owned. The appreciation
is simply because it exists and has had success. Ten
billion dollars and you go, oh my god, ten billion dollars,
(21:27):
what's that going to be worth in ten years fifteen?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And we're not talking that it went there and you
know over generations of degenerations after generations. This is this
is in one lifetime, I mean one short period of
your life. Think about Steve Bomer bought that team win.
He bought the Clippers in what two twenty I can't
exactly remember, ten years he's own it something like that
(21:54):
around there. When does sound right? Let's say ten it's
only the Clippers in ten years to two billion dollars
on it, he's already doubled that, probably tripled it. Now
triple that investment within that period of time, and you
know you did. You know you're right about that. It's
(22:14):
not about pulling your money out right now, which is
why we hate these owners crying broke, because when you
do sell it, you're gonna make a ton of money.
That's what this is about. That, that's why people buy
these teams, by the way, that's why. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So when you when you plead poverty, when you cry poor,
you don't have to be poor.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You could sell it right now. Not a problem. We
just don't have the money. You can have the money
in two hours. Sell it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Sell you'll get the money you invest it and you'll
probably double or triple it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, sell it, Go sit on a beach. There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now you have all the money you need. So it's
not a problem anymore, is it? Because you got what
you need.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And the crazy theme that they cry broke and the
way sports franchises are the cost and the value of
evaluation of them, is that these people still call cry
broke and you go look up and Forbes comes out
with the list and this team is worth this and
this what do you telling like you just said sell
the team. Then if your crying broke, sell the team
(23:19):
and everything will be all right exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
If you're unhappy, we're unhappy. If you're troubled, we can't sleep.
We have the solution for you. Just sell the team.
You'll have all the money you want. You'll have more
money than you ever dream possible. It's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's simple.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But what you do in these situations is you try
to convince your fan base, your customers.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's unfair, and that's all this is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's unfair. We can't compete because those guys spend like that.
Well you can spend like that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Too, you can. You choose not to.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And if you make the argument, well just to operate
this thing, we don't have that kind of cash, then.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Don't operate it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think people want you to feel sorry for those
who say we just don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's like robin Hood. This is like robin Hood. Take
from the rich and gift to the poor. Okay, well,
all of the poor owners still can eat porridge. It's fine.
They're not starving to death.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
See, they probably have private planes, their suites are catered
every game, probably with filet or lobster. They have money,
they just don't want to spend it. And if you
don't want to spend it. You sell to the team,
make it easy. That's why when we hear the argument
(24:53):
about the Brewers, look at the small market team instead
of saying, you see the Dodgers beating the Brewers. It's
unfair to the Brewers because just think if the playing
field was leveled. How about this way to go, Brewers.
You made the most with what you have. You are
(25:16):
figuring it out, you are competitive, you can make a difference,
You can do all of those things. But instead we
turn around and we say, well, just imagine if the
Brewers had what the Dodgers have. The Brewers seemed to
be doing just fine. If the Dodgers didn't have the
(25:37):
pitching they have right now, if all of their pitchers
were hurt and not healthy at this point, if they
were all hurt and not healthy.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
The Brewers could win. The Brewers could win. So what
would that mean? What would that mean?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The Brewers didn't need any more money. They could win.
Your pitchers are healthy. The plan works, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And if this series were tied, or even they were
up two oh on the Dodgers, this conversation would not exist.
No one would talk about it, no one would say
anything about it right. See, if anything, it would be
like you said, the reverse, ha ha ha. They spend
(26:24):
all that money and they can't win. They're gonna lose.
Spend all that money. See, money can't buy you championships.
That would be the narrative right now. It's uh yeah,
it's it's it's so ridiculous the argument against and it's
such a defeatist argument and attitude for people to say, well,
(26:44):
they just spend more money than everybody else, that's why
they win. Had nothing to do with the players and
talent and Yamamodo pitching nine innings or you know Blake
Snell going eight plus and you know Tioscar hitting the
home run, Key k coming through and the clutch like
he always had nothing to do with all that. It's
just they spend money.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Let me ask you, robots, let me ask you this.
Your guy was signed immediately, Blake Snell. I mean, that
had to be the quickest free agent signing in the
history of Scott Bores.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
There was not even a messing around Boom signed. Okay,
could the Yankees have signed Blake Snell? Could the Phillies
of sign Blake Snell?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah? Could they? They probably could. They didn't, did they.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, that's on you. That's on you. Could you have
paid him when he gets paid by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You could.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That's on you. That's not on the Dodgers. Who got
the better deal? Dodgers or Yankees?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Blake Snell?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Max Free? Who who got the better deal? Dodgers and
you love Max Free?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Great? They got the better guy? Who's that on?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's on you? The Mets spent seven hundred and sixty
million dollars on one Soto. The Dodgers could have spent
that if they chose to. They didn't. They realized that
at that price point it wasn't worth it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
The Mets spent it. Who's that on the Mets? That's
on you. That's not on the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So people complain when they feel things are inequitable, The
truth of the matter is that's on them. You gotta
stop whining. Okay, we're on early today. We're covering up
Colin as we get ready for Game three. Out of
the stadium, the three o eight start, the dreaded three
o eight start. Now I believe Kevin? Are you there?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
No? I'm not okay? Great?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Uh, thank you? No, I'm not Kevin. We're giving me
there where, we where, wherever he's supposed to.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Be on the air, everywhere, as Ben Mallow would say, yes, Fred,
I'm here, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, and I forgot so I have to just ask
you now because early and it's a little harder for us.
We're giving something away next, Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yes, we have a gift card to a Hammer and Nails,
a men's grooming shop.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Really good kick.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So we're gonna give something away, a gift card to
Hammer and Nails. Oh there it is the men's grooming
shop for the person if they can play and win.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Who dis It's back today? It's a Dodger edition of
who Dis is it? Who this? And know your squad?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It was a late change Rodney, so he was gonna
do this and not know your squad? Okay checking, Oh
I'm fair. You know how fra it is, so I
get it. Yeah, it was me this time. So it's
who Look at Fred laughing so hard?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You just teasing look at him.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's time to bring it back eight six, six, nine
eighty seven, two five seventy you call. If you beat Rodney,
you win the Hammer and Nails gift card.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Let's go Never right. But if Rodney beat you.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
We're gonna open it up to everybody eight six six nine,
eight seven two five seventy who is feeling it on
a Thursday morning, Get in here and let's give it
a shot.
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Speaker 2 (30:34):
Uh yeah, it is a throwback Thursday. We're on in
the morning today, Fred. It kind of feels good sometimes
be on in the morning. Hello, I like doing you
know what I like doing this this show? Yeah? I
like doing the nine o'clock show. Get you Started, Get
Your Up? Yeah, kind of like it too. Yeah. Well
(30:59):
they're an gonna put us in here for Colin. Oh no,
that won't happen though.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But you know when we do, when we get to
do it, it's a lot of fun because you're just
starting the day. People are fired up and ready excited
about what might happen, and Mark in Orange, I guarantee
you he is excited.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Mark, good morning, Good morning. I am excited. Dodgers are
gonna win.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah they are, Yeah they are. You think last now
will go all the way tonight? You think you'll go
nine innings?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I no, I don't think so. I hope so, but
I don't think so. All right, Well we'll see. We'll sing.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I have more confidence at this point than you do.
That means absolutely nothing. I might add Mark zero.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So you think he goes nine? I do? I think
all the way tonight? You do? You do? Huh? I
think he can't. He's got the stuff exactly, He's got
the stuff. He's he's capable.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, I think I think he could do it. All Right,
we're gonna play who Is. We haven't played in a while.
So here's how we play who Is. I'm gonna give
you a clue. There are four clues per category. If
you think you know who this is, just yell out
the name.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
If you think you know who it is, yell out
the name. Now we have Okay, there are oh my god,
we got a lot of questions. All right, So here's
the deal. Mark, You gotta win. You gotta beat Rodney.
If you beat Rodney, you win the Hammer and Nails
gift card. But if you don't, if you come up short,
if somehow it doesn't go your way, what we have to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Do is open it up for everybody.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You cool, Yeah, there, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I made twelve All Star teams in my MLB career,
and these are all Dodgers. I made twelve All Star
teams in my MLB career. Anybody got a guess.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Twelve? That's right in my MLB or Hers Shire, Steve
Garvey Ron, Okay, all right, No, we're not doing that
all three or wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not gonna let you start yelling out five thousand
names at a time this time, Jimmy Win. Well there,
you brought that out a little early, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You brought up the toy cannon a little early today, Rodney?
I did. I did. We're on early, Fritz, I got
to bring out the toy cannon, all right, Mark, do
you even want to try? I made the All Star
teams and my mlbagger Okay, Bothy're incorrect.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm going to the second clue, and if at any
point anybody wants me to give them a bonus clue.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I will here's the second clue.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I won two World Series titles and one World Series
MVP Award.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Two World Series titles and.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
One World Series MVP. Who would you say, Marty friedman ready, No,
l no next clue? I let the al and RBA.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No. I let the.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Al and RBI in nineteen ninety nine and won the
batting title in two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Manny Ramirez, Manny Ramirez is correct, Rodney's on the board,
and Manny just being Manny, Manny just being. I was
gonna say, Manny, good job. All right, here's your next one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I made two All Star teams in my thirteen year
MLB career.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Really, that's the clue that you're staring at us for.
I made two All Star teams in my thirteen year career.
We go to do the Dodgers list by year for
the last thirty years. Ready, next, give me the next clue?
Is what I'm saying. I won two World Series titles
with the Dodgers. Ooh ron said Davey Lop, Steve Garby,
(35:05):
Oral Hershiser, No next clue, claygen Kershaw, no market Ready.
I was a time I was a two time AL
Manager of the Year. Joe Tory.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Mike Yes, Mark's on the board, Mike's Oshian very good
tie score.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Let's move on.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Prior to my fifteen year MLB career, I played baseball
at Long Beach Polly in U c l A.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Jared Who do you got Mark? Jared No, not Jared,
Eric Davis not Eric Davis, Eric Carrolls not Eric Carrolls.
Next clue. I was a six time NL All Star
(35:59):
Matt kim No, and he was a dirt bag. Next clue.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, I won my only World Series title with the
Phillies in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Jimmy Rowlins No.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Oh uhhh uh uh oh, yes, oh yes, you know
what Rodney?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I do I do?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Final clue, damn it. After leaving Philly, I finished my
career with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, he did. God, I can't think of his name. Utley.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Mark gets it. Chase Utley, good job, Mark. Rodney was right.
I saw him. You were ready.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I was ready, you were ready. I was ready. He
was a dirt b oh man. That's a good surprise.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know what they don always say about Chase Hutley,
That guy will give you a hard ninety, remember, right,
you give you.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
A hard nine. Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right,
here's an next one.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I was a sixth round draft pick of the Dodgers
in two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Next week around two thousand and three. Now, you're not
going to get it good. Yes.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was a three time All Star and three time
Gold Glove winner with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
M No. One Germany No.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
After leaving the Dodgers for three seasons, I returned in
twenty eighteen and made my final All Star team the.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Bishop not the Bishop. Final clue. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I was traded from the Dodgers to the Padres for
Yao's Moni Grondal prior to the twenty fifteen season. Traded
to the Dodgers to the Padres trade Dodgers Padres for
Yao's Monti Grondal prior to the twenty fifteen season. Yes,
he was outfielder Matt Kimp Matt Kemp is correct, Rodney,
(38:05):
good job, Yay, all.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Right, we're tired here. Mark. You're still in the game, Baby,
You're still in the game. Let's go as a walk
on at UCLA. Ended up being drafted in the twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Eighth round of the ninety four draft by the then Cleveland, India.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Dave Roberts correct, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Man, Okay, okay, so now this is critical, Mark, this
is critical. You have two questions left, you're one behind.
If Rodney gets this, the game is over and we
opened it up for everybody. Okay, yes, all right, And
(38:51):
I will give you a free guess off the top.
I will give you the first clue and give you
a free gat.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What we're doing nowadays, what we're doing, little Owen, little Owen,
what were we doing? Here? We go? Mark for you money,
get you boy? All right?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I was a three time All Star with the Dodgers.
You get one free guest, Mark, she was careful.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Welling, Jared incorrect. Everybody's back in play.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I was drafted in the seventeenth round of the seventy
nine draft by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The seventy nine draft. Mm hmm, no, good good fold
goodwin good one see sex Mike Marshall. Mike Marshall, No,
I was waiting for that one too. Sex Guerrero Marshall,
Pedro Guerrero, not Padro.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
All right, Now listen up, I think somebody's going to
get it on this clue. If it's you, Mark, the
game continues. If it's Rodney, the game is over. Are
you ready, yes, sir, here we go. I won the
cy Young and World Series MVP Awards in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Or her side, and that's it. The game is over,
Oral Hersheizer, Mark, wait a minute before? Oh wait, oh
we went hold on, wait, you know what we're going
to delay route. No, we've got a challenge. Mark. Are
you're throwing your challenge flag? I'm throwing my challenge flag,
I said before.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, all right, we've got a challenge. So we're gonna
go back and check the tape.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
If in fact you're right, the game continues for the win.
So Kevin, and I think Katie is working today. She is,
uh there diligently.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Oh, going back? We got it, Kevin, Yes, I have
it ready. All right, here we go. Let's listen. I
won the cy Young and.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
World Series MVP Awards in nineteen eighty eight, or her siting,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
The game is okay. Why don't you hear that? Yeah, yeah,
that's to happen. I just got one thing that say
to you lin never lout, never lout, baby, never Los.
All right, Mark, thanks for playing. Hang up immediately, Hang up.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right now, because once we give the Q to call,
you can call back in and win. So I hang
up right. There goes Mark, Rodney, good job. We haven't
played in a while, but you keep your streak alive.
A little round, little rusty, but game back strong. Who
wants the gift card to hammer in Nails? Eight sixty
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Speaker 2 (42:02):
Fred? You want number seven? Yeah? Number seven like caller seven.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
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Speaker 2 (42:26):
Oh Yes, coming at you on a beautiful throwback Thursday morning,
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan getting ready for Game three out
at shapez Ravine. The Dodgers Brewers get it going for
Game three. Tyler Glass now going for the Dodgers, and
we still don't know do we know yet who's pitching
for I've not heard.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I've not heard they know, but they're just they're holding
out on this and does it really matter? Top secret
Fred all right, Gilbert, way to go, Gilbert won. Gilbert
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(43:09):
You've won a sixty dollars gift card. What do he go, Gilbert?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Thanks for listening, Hetty go, Gilbert, get yourself a little
pedicure while you're there. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
So during the playoffs, it's interesting to see who people
root for. Tyrese Haliburton, for example, Indiana pacer star, you know,
recovering from surgery but still bona fide star, one of
the top players.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yes, and he is now rooting for the Dodgers. He's
rooting for the Dodgers. He plays in Indiana. Interesting, when
the Brewers were playing the Cobs, he was rooting for
the Cobs. So now anytime the Brewers play a team,
he is rooting for the other team.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
He actually wears the jersey of the other team. So
what would cause him to do that? What would cause
him to do that? Rodney. What do you think it
was because he was a Brewers fan, right. I believe
he was a Brewers fan at one point, and then
(44:14):
he switched allegiance to anybody that's playing the Brewers, right,
I don't know the Brewers do something bad to him. Well,
here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
He was scheduled to throw out a pitch in twenty
twenty four for the Brewers because he loved the Brewers.
He was a huge Brewers fan, so he was scheduled
to throw it out. He was excited. You know, he
was working from the rubber because he was gonna he
was gonna nail it. But then, prior to that, I
think what happened was the Pacers knocked the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Out of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
After the Pacers eliminated the Bucks, the Brewers called and said,
you can't throw out the first pitch anymore because the
Pacers eliminated the Bucks. The Brewers said, uh uh, you
cannot throw the first pitch out anymore. So they they
took it away from him because Indiana knocked out Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh no, that's what happened to me. That's not the
reason they did that. They took it away this a
guy is a Brewers fan and supporting the Brewers, and
because his team in another sport beat the local Milwaukee
Bucks team, they decided to rescind the first pitch. That's
(45:26):
bush lea Fred. That is then that's what happened they did.
They take it away and say, listen, it's just it's
too fresh in everybody's mind. You just knocked them out.
Maybe we do this at a later date, maybe August September.
You come back and throw the first pitch, or they
just said, well, you just beat our Bucks, so we
can't have you thrown out the first bitch. You might
(45:47):
get booed out there. I think that maybe they were
thinking they were looking out for him Fred.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Maybe, but to be fair, to be fair, if they
were looking out for him, they would have said what
you suggested the first time, Tyrene, we want you to
throw it out, and we love you're a huge Brewer fan.
It means a world to us, but we're just gonna
postpone this a little bit. It's too fresh, it's too current.
Give us a little time and you'll be back out
(46:14):
there and you'll throw.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That would have been the way to handle it, but
apparently they just said, you're not doing.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It, You're out. No, we can't have this.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
And he's like, okay, then I'm a free agent. I'm
a free agent baseball fan. And what did he do
as a free agent? He and us and signed with
any team playing the Brewers. Who's ever playing the Brewers?
He's their fan. Now, by the way, he loved the
fact that the Dodgers won Game one. He love the
(46:46):
fact that Dodgers won Game one, so he must be thrilled.
They've won two games. And who knows, maybe he'll be
at the stadium tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So now it's preseason and soever he goes, he shows
up with the team that's playing the Brewers. Yes, right,
because I think, yeah, someone had a Dodger jersey on.
He's trolling them for it. Yeah. When they were playing
the Cubs, he showed up with a Cub jersey every time.
(47:15):
Uh yeah, there's so many better ways that the Brewers
could have handled that. Instead of just saying, hey, we're
gonna take back the offer, I'm sure he would have understood,
like this is too fresh, it's too quick. You know,
we're looking out for you. We don't want you to
get booed as you throw out the first pitch because
fans would boot if it was you know, they had
(47:36):
just knocked him out and it was only like a
week old or two weeks old. Of course fans in
Milwaukee would have booted him. And do you want that?
But the way it sounds is that they didn't present
to him like that, fred which is why he switched allegiance.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Right, Well, you know what, that was pretty stupid on
their part, wasn't it. It's all in communication, Rodney, It's yes, yes, yes,
Just be straight up and honest with folks. That's all
people want, Freddy, all people want. Man, did you see?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Uh? Who was gonna say? I know we're gonna talk
about this later, but o Tani coming out and taking
batting practice.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, we will talk about that. We'll get to that
as a matter of fact, coming up this hour. All right,
that's one of the topics on the table this hour.
And when we come back, how about the man in
the big chair our good bye joining the show.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah,
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