October 17, 2025 • 33 mins
Dylan Hernandez joins us from Dodger Stadium ahead of Game 4 of the NLCS. A.I. is becoming more and more realistic by the day.
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much real, our good friend Dylan Hernandez.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Dylan, Hello, Hello, are you guys doing today?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Are you out there already.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, I just rolled into the ballpark, so this is
a really good timing. I was kind of afraid that,
you know, cell reception is not great in the parking
lots up there. So I'm in the stadium. We're all
good to go.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Is anybody walking around without their shoes on? Are they
grounding themselves?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I have not. I'm actually kind of like in the
back right now, so I don't know usha.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Possibly, but you are keeping your shoes on. You are
not walking through the stadium without your shoes.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
No, I'm not. I'm not at one with nature at all,
if you know me, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Are you going to miss the three o'clock starts? Are
you gonna miss that or what?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Uh? Yeah, that's I'm not a big fan at three
o'clock honestly. Just you know, I got kids that I
got to get to school, so my morning's got pretty
jammed up. When when it's a little bit cheirley because
we've got to get out here like wave for first pitch, right,
not just to beat the traffic, but also you know,
the interview room's going and stuff. So I prefer the
later start.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Actually, Okay, so you think it's done tonight, I do.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Yeah, I think the brus are just kind of dead,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I wait, wait, wait wait, I just think the Brewers
are kind of dead. They are, but I just can't
believe you said that.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, I mean it starts
with like the tone set by the manager, right, you know,
I think you know, when you think about like scrappy
teams that kind of have to like overcome a talent
deficit to like you know, scratch and claw their way
past like a superior opponent, there's a same tenacity that
they have about them, right, and there a certain kind
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of like lack of respect that they have to have
for their opponent. And this has then kind of the
exact opposite here. Pat Murphy has just been talking the
entire time about how much money the Dodgers spend and
Blake Snell makes more than my entire pitching staff. And
look at this guy and look at that guy. You know,
I kind of go back, right. I mean, it's like
the opposite of you know, the speech that show Heyo
(03:08):
Tani game to the Japanese team before the World WBC Final,
right where he told his teammates, you know, hey, you
know they're right. The US has all these great players,
you know, guys that everybody knows, but for today we
have to throw away our respect for them and go
out there and just beat them. I just don't sense
that energy at all from the Brewers. You know, again,
keep in mind, they gotta, you know, the type of
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at bats that they have to take, right, just kind
of fouling off pitches, working up pitch counts. I don't
sense the tenacity, you know, just kind of in that
clubhouse right now that would allow for them to have
those types of bats against you know, superior talent.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It does feel like their World Series was the Cubs,
and the Dodgers' toughest test maybe all postseason to win
another World Series was the Phillies, and almost that this
was the formalities. Do you kind of get that sense
it just in covering these games and and seeing the emotions.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, you know, And I think though the one kind
of difference, right is that you know, and I know
Dave Roberts was kind of maybe criticizing some circles for this,
but but the uh, you know, the game that cursed
off fished against the Phillies, right, he went out for
a second inning, It got kind of ugly, you know,
And basically at that point, it's like the Dodgers just decided, Okay, well,
we don't have a ton of relievers right that we trust,
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and we can't afford to use them in games that
we don't win. So even though we're only down down
two runs and theoretically we're still in this game, we're
going to basically punt this game. You know, Pat Murphy
talked yesterday about how with the Brewers, you know, how
Warren down their bullpen is because you know, there were
games that they were down by one or two runs,
and you know what, we had shot that winning those things,
so we threw out our best guys. I mean, their
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relievers are all running on fumes right now. You know,
that was supposed to be the bullpen was supposed to
be a huge Brewers advantage coming into this thing. So
those guys are all I mean, they're they're they're they're
dust right now, right and so you know, uh right,
they're you know, they're closers, you know, pitched I don't
know four times in five days now or something. I mean,
you know, it's it just has not been a good
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situation for them. There were the Dodgers. I think, you know,
because they again they did punt the game that they could.
They've been a little bit more strategic.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
My guess again, if they're down two runs today, you know,
in the seventh or eighth inning, as much as people
don't want to hear this, they're gonna go. You know,
They're not gonna go to one of their guys. They're
gonna stay away from Bessia and try and the sococting
a situation like that, but that will set them up,
you know, to win the next game. And that's one
thing you know they did they did in the world
right on the World Series run last year. I know
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people weren't happy about, you know, watching the team just
kind of punt certain games. But given the shortcomings in
their bullpen, that's something that they have to do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You know, when you look at the Dodges right now,
just where their position starters all healthy, bottom of the lineup,
hits at the top of the lineup, doesn't They can't
be beaten, can they?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I Mean the bullpen is skilled, like the one question, right,
I think, you know, and that's why I do think
like yesterday was so encouraged. I mean, The only reason
that there is any doubt whatsoever whether or not they
win this World Series is because of the bullpen, right,
and you know, coming into this postseason, I think that
there were some concerns, you know that Bessie, you know,
who had made a career high number of appearances this year,
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might have been out of gas. You know, Trynan did
not look like trying and even right now doesn't still
look like the Blake Tryner last year. To me, it
looks like more he's getting guys out on guts, you know.
And then Sasaki just kind of, you know, basically materialized
out of thin air to be you know, turned into
this tremendous closer. But I do think that that is
kind of the one area where we're still not sure, right,
And I wouldn't be shocked, honestly for them to find
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you know, they haven't blown any late game lead yet,
but with Sasaki, this is all new too, right, And
that's why the last game was so disconcerting that he pitched,
you know, in game one, he came in to close
out the game, couldn't get out of the ninth ending
Trya had to come in, and you know, they kind
of escaped barely escaped. But with Sasaki, you just kind
of don't know. He's never pitched, you know, I think
he's already pitched six times this postseason. My guess is
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he's never in his life pitched six times, you know,
in this type of span. So there there is a
bit of a question mark there.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Now.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
That said, again, I think yesterday, you know, I think
they took out trying what with one out in the
fifth inning, and the bullpen covered the rest of the game,
right and you know, just put up zero. So I
think that that was a really great signe there is
at least kind of a blueprint now on how to
get there. You know, I think at the beginning of
the postseason again, that was more like wishful thinking, you
know that, Okay, best, Yeah, trying into Sasaki. Now, this
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has happened enough times where I think you can trust
it a little bit. But to me, it's still not
a one hundred percent like you know, sure thing.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I know, Dylan, you wrote about Roki Sasaki and just
sort of his development and his growth, and he's you know,
cracking jokes and that's normally not his demeanor at least
that you've seen from covering him this year. What has
that been like for you being around the team as
much as you are, to see him be introverted, be
a really quiet sort of character on the team, and
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then turn into the dominant bullpen guy that he has
this postseason.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah, you know, I think, you know, honestly, you know,
when when they're rehabing him in the minor leaves as
a starter, I did, you know, just kind of right
down on the field, you know, you're just talking, you know,
with people and stuff. And I did bring up a
couple of times, like why don't you just throw this
guy in the pen? Right he throws a hundred, Like,
that's the worst thing that can happen. He's not gonna
be any worse than the guys you have right now now.
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So him having success out of the pen hasn't surprised
me too much. What has surprised me is just like, again,
the confidence that has emerged with that. You know, I
thought at his introductory press conference, you know, the body
language is kind of bad. I thought early in the season,
the body language is bad, and in retrospect, is probably
because he knew something was wrong with his shoulder, you know,
and once he kind of fixed that what you're kind
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of seeing is a swagger that you typically don't associate
with Japanese pictures. You know, I think just kind of
culturally right, and again, I was raised by like a
Japanese mother, and everything kind of starts like with a
negative thing, right, like I'm unworthy, I'm not good enough.
So that's why, like I have to train like crazy
type thing.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, Uh, hold on, hold on, hold on what
everything starts that with the nuggati.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Yeah, it's it's like yeah, like you no, because like
in the United States, like just take our education, right,
the US, we work on a bribery system.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You tell a kid, hey, you know what, if you
get good grades, you could go to a good college.
If you go to good college, you could get a
good job. You know, you get a good job, you
can make a lot of money. You make a lot
of money. You you know, you can get a pretty
why or whatever. Right in Japan, it's kind of like, well,
you were giving the gift of life, and therefore you
have an obligation to learn, you know, and if you
don't learn, you're like a crap person, you know. So
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it's very kind of like obligation kind of dependent, you know,
you can kind of start from a place of feeling
not great, you know, So all these things I understand
when people visit Japan and you're like, oh my god,
the trains like went off on time, Like what a
great place. Being part of that machinery is like suffocating, right,
I mean, there's like a reason they have, like I think,
the second highest suicide rate in the world, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So you know, you know, Jyllan Dylan, it sounds like
doing a show with Fred To be honest with you,
that's not necessary, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
But so my my point is here though, is that, like,
you know, I do think like Otawani is kind of different,
right from like mentally obviously, you know, he's he kind
of fits more of the American kind of killer, you know,
like don't like like all those smiles and stuff fool you, right,
that guy is like a stone cold killer, you know.
And with Sasaki, I kind of feel like he's one
of these guys who thinks that if everything is going well, right,
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if if his delivery is fine and he's throwing them,
if he's healthy and he's he executes the way he should,
that nobody can hit him, right, And that's kind of
something again that's pretty rare. I've had conversations you know,
with very accomplished Japanese pictures before, you know, and they've
always kind of dropped, you know, at some point told
me like, yeah, I don't really think I'm that good,
but you know, I'm kind of overcoming that with like
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hard work and stuff. And I'm like, wait, wait, stop, right, Like,
do you think Justin Verlander takes a mound thinking he's
not that good? You know, No, Justin Verlander thinks like, hey,
if I if I have my pitches working, no one
is going to hit me. And that's kind of what
I've seen from Susak And you see it on the
mound too, right, every now and then, like when he's
feeling good, he'll just throw that fastball down the middle
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and just dare you to hit it. And so, like
I said, I you know, the fact that a guy
who throws one hundred is having success out of the pen,
that part doesn't surprise me. What I am surprised though,
is again the confidence that has emerged. And I think
that that kind of sets them up to be, you know,
the ace of a rotation in the future, right, because
that's kind of the swagger that you need to have,
I think to succeed, you know, at that at that
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top tier level in the major leagues.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So, Dylan, the chat has begun. By the way, if
the Dodgers are eliminated or had lost, let's say, to
the Phillies, you wouldn't hear this. But now it's full blown. Well,
the only reason that there is because they have all
the money. That's the only reason. If they didn't have
all the money, they wouldn't be there. You hear that,
What do you say?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I mean, yeah, you know, money buys good players, right.
I Mean, here's the thing though, right, they have been
smart about it. They haven't had I'm not going to
say that they haven't missed, right, because they have, like right,
Pat Kenner Scott was not worth seventy right, that like
a regrettable contract right now, right, you know, but they
hit more than they miss right, And look, you got
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to you gotta admit to these owners. You know, I
don't understand the owners of these other teams that complaining. Well,
I mean I understand why. It's because they're greedy, right,
you know, but like it was understood like twenty years ago.
Look like you operate a baseball team, you're gonna lose
money every year until you sell them, right, and that's
when you're really going to cash in because of the
appreciation of franchise values. Now, these guys, you know, they
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want to make money, not just every year, but like
every quarter or whatever. Right, And it's just like, look,
you can spend too. Nothing stopping you from doing this.
And frankly, I would argue that, you know, sports teams
are civic institutions. You take over one of these things,
you know, it's not just like a business, right, it's
you owe something to the city. The reason people support
you is because the city's name is on your jersey,
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you know. So no, to me, that's that's, you know,
like a bunch of nonsense. I do think you gotta
and look, and you guys know this. I've had issues,
you know, with the owners Dodgers' ownership. I've questioned some
of the things management it's done here. But the one
thing that you cannot question is the commitment to winning,
the commitment to reinvesting their profits. You know, uh, you know,
you got to get credit to sho hail tony two
for deferring all that money freeing it up in theory
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for them to sign other players. Uh, this is you know,
this is their success is a result of that commitment.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Dylan, we were kicking around NLCS MVP, like who's who
would you give the award to? Because it's not like
anybody's really stood out to where there's just this overwhelming
feeling like, oh, the series you know he's had is
just so much better than everybody else is. It feels
like everybody's just performing, especially from a pitching standpoint, up
to what the expectations were when they joined the team.
(13:49):
So if you had if you're voting right now, NLCS MVP,
who are you giving it to?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I would probably split it between Snell and Yamamoto, Right.
I really think the way those guys pitched in games
one and two set the tone for the series. Again,
I think it took the Brewers out of it. I
think they also write the fact that they were able
to pitch as deep as they did really did save
you know, their bullpen. Well, the you know Brewers, I
think in each of the first two games, I think
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they used six pitchers in both games.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, the Dodgers that first game had to you know,
do the Sasaki trying and thing, but it was relatively brief,
so to me, it would be those two guys again.
And I don't know if you can split votes or what,
but that would be my pick if it if it
were to end today.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, well you're our MVP, Dylan, and never forget it.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I appreciate that because again I never heard that from
my Japanese moment right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Up, Oh all right, Dylan, thank you have fun?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
All right, thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Thanks boy?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That that got dark.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He's never said that before. Yeah, I've never heard him
say that before.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, but if you like, if you watch, because I
remember remember the Tokyo series earlier this year, like the
reason why the Dodgers and Cubs were in the Tokyo
By the way, I listen, I know you were guess
where I was here on this show?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like I was, How was it back here? Because I
had a lot of fun there.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Uh you know, same old, same old. You know we
weren't we weren't you know, giving you know, hand out
gloves as we walked in to steal foul balls from
Max Munsey like like Rodney did h. So you guys
had a great time. We were just back here slumming it,
you know, just doing doing our best. But one of
the reasons, like the appeal to have the Dodgers in
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the Cubs was how many Japanese players, both of them have,
And I remember hearing this about, you know, Saya Suzuki
of the Cubs and just sort of how the Japanese
culture they're really hard on themselves when they struggle, they're like,
really really hard. And in baseball, look, majority of the
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time you're going to strug like you're gonna get out
seven out of ten times. But in the culture, the
demand is at a level that a lot of other
cultures it isn't the same. So it's not that surprising.
I just didn't know we were taking a turn down
that road there, Like I felt therapeutic, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'd never heard that before ever. Now you might find
this interesting fans because we stay on top of things.
Right now, I see five Brewers on the field at
Dodger Stadium, you do. They're walking around without their shoes on.
One was laying down kind of sunning himself. And I
believe it's going to be jose Kntana starting tonight for
the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
What is with this grounding thing that you're into.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
See, I'm not into it. I found it very odd, Kevin.
We were out at the stadium, we're having a nice show.
We're looking down at was the reds. All of a
sudden we see like six people walking around. They don't
have their shoes on. Somebody's laying out like they think
there were at the beach at Malibu. And I just
found it on and I said, why are these people
walking around without their shoes where they're grounding themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, but it wasn't just players. It was like staffers.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yeah, a couple of them in right field, right, Yeah,
just walking around.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It is a thing, like it really is a thing
to where people will they feel like they're if you
start your day walking barefoot on the soil, it does
something to you to where you become one with the earth.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So my point is this, and I'm glad you pointed
that out. My point is this, we walk in here
to iHeartMedia. Should we take our shoes off and become
one with the big I heart heart.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It doesn't work that way, Like it's got to be
on the actual soil itself.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, the building is built on soil.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, but there's like layers above that, you know what
I mean, Like there's you know, it's like for to
put it in terms that you can understand, you know,
imagine like the building would be the condom, you know,
like you don't want like that, Like there's there's just
there's there's a layer between that and the earth. You've
got to actually put your bare feet on the soil.
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And this isn't just a baseball thing. It's not just
a Dodgers thing. There's a lot of professional fighters who
believe in this. They think it's a it's a way
to get your mind and your body, like it does
something to you. I can't do it because my neighbors
don't clean up dog crap. And I'm not willing to
step in a in a in a in a giant
load because you know, somebody you know was lazy and
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they felt like, oh it's a little bit chilly out here.
I got to get back inside. And the only place
where there's grass where I live, because again I don't
live you know in the lavish environment that you do. Fred. Sure,
there's like a small area and it's just filled.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
With dog crap.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's just landmines of feces.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Everywhere year.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You have no grass by your house.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, there's dog crap on it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, what I'm saying is you have your home possesses
a very small patch of grass where all the dogs evacuate.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Their fred I live in thousand and oaks, not thousand grass.
So there's oak trees, there's a thousand of them.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There's just not a lot of.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Grass where the at.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Why don't you scale a tree with your shoes off?
Wouldn't it be the same difference if you live in
thousand oaks.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, my toes are so I have this thing to
where my no, my big toe, the second and I
forget what it's called, but the second toe next to
my big toe overlaps my big toe. All right, I
don't I'm just like, I don't know, I forget what
it's called. But that is a thing to where like
my big toe kind of hides underneath my second my
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second toe like this.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like a deformity.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
No, it's more like if you were to do it
like if like the toes are we a layer like this. Yeah,
I mean you can probably AI it because you're on
this AI rampage right now. That's just really disturbing based
on your research, okay. So anyway, all right, Oh just
roll it close.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
To this, Okay.
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Like twenty nine Coachella Valley's Best Bet. Okay, Now, I
didn't really realize Jonas how intense these aid fakes were.
Oh boy, I really didn't. I'm being dead serious. And
I found two things and I sent them both to
you and Kevin, did you see both of them yet?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I saw the first one, okay, and it made me
terrified to open up the second one.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Right, look at both of them, Kevin, You look at
both of them. And when we come back, we're going
to talk about this. The question becomes when we see things,
are they real or fake? And we'll give you a
couple of examples.
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Speaker 2 (21:03):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Thanks to Dylan Hernandez at the time for sitting in
Jonas and today for Rodney. I just want to say
I thought AI was really cool and more and more
people use AI for a number of things, presentations, you
can create videos with them, and I thought this was
like really cool and it obviously is going to be
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a big part of the future.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
We used it earlier to figure out that you had
nothing to do with Shaq coming La.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's right, but it was incorrect. Okay, right, you used Costco.
What'd you call it?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Groch oh grock?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right, Well, that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Why did Costco have to catch a stray?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because I thought it was called cost I can't remember
what it was called because it was so wrong, and
that proves AI is wrong. Anyway, you can make animated
figures with AI, and I am told that for them
to be at their very best if you were using
an AI system. They're eight seconds long. That's really from
a video perspective, how long they move and then I
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mean voices go longer, but just the video so it's
crisp and clear. They're about eight seconds each, so they
have to build them at eight second intervals. So I
was sitting here watching looking at stuff, and I saw
two pieces of video so I sent it to Jonas,
and I sent it to Kevin and Katie saw him
as well. The first one is a woman and she's
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on the balance beam. Yeah, as if it's the Olympics
now to be there. The woman doesn't look like she
should be on the balance beam. She's very heavy. Is
that fair, Jonas?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, that's one way to put it. She's yeah, she
is heavy, too heavy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. Wait, some would say, right, yeah, she's you know,
an individual of large girth anyway, almost.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like she would be, you know, prominently featured on my
eight TLC reality show.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know what I mean, like a yeah, he's a
big girl. Yeah, all right. Anyway, I'm looking at this
and I'm honest to God, and maybe you guys thought
very differently of it when you first saw it. I thought,
this is going to be amazing. It looked really real
to me. It did. Now, granted, she seemed very large
to be on the beam, but I thought this is
(23:30):
pretty amazing that somebody this big would be performing. I
absolutely bought this. And then she takes two steps and
she flips, and at that point, not only does she
crash through the beam, she crashes through the floor. And
there was that one moment, I swear to you that
one moment where I thought, oh my god, is she
(23:53):
all right? I did not know that was a I'm serious.
Did you when you first saw that, before you even
clicked that you just saw, did you think that was Ai?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
No? I saw it because I thought you were sending
it over as this is really impressive, like a really
impressive athletic feet because I couldn't. I couldn't stand on
a balance being without falling over. And as she went
for the jump, I started to notice, Okay, this is
gonna go bad. And my big concern was, please don't
let it be like a catastrophic knee injury, because I
(24:27):
can't see those like I cannot see those that I
just don't have the stomach for it. But then it
just looked like, you know, somebody was uh, you know,
blowing up an old casino in Vegas, like you know,
like they're just they're detonating like the palms, and it's like, okay,
well we got to build a stadium here, so.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But I couldn't tell. My point is, honestly, until that
final crash, I didn't know that was Ai.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's the things that you can do and here's the
here's the crazy part. We're at the infinite stages of
it all. Correct, it's gonna get better, And by better,
I mean who knows if it's if it's not gonna
get worse, because you can do things with AI now,
whether it's voice generated, whether it's image generated, that is
(25:18):
so realistic that you're not sure what the hell to
believe it's really like. So when I fill in when
it's when Brady Quinn's not on the morning show, LeVar
Arrington and I do it, and we call the show
Black and drac because I look like Dracula and he's black.
And so just to clear that up for everybody, people
(25:39):
will send in AI generated pictures of Black and Rack
of LaVar and I and it's literally like the one
today was Black Eye with Dreads playing a guitar, nice
shades on and then Dracula looking like a voyeur in
the background, and it looks so realistic and it's all
(26:01):
made up and done within the matter of seconds. Like
the technology is wild.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Kevin, When you saw the woman on the beam, did
you think it first it was real?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, well then that's sad.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Honestly, I just go off with a reaction of the
crowd and the people surrounding, and the fact that they
didn't really react all that much was an immediate giveaway
to me that it was AI.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, then there was the second one I sent, and
I don't know if you have seen this. If not,
you have to search it out. It's it's on TikTok
and it's called you Are Not the Father, and it's
it's basically a Jerry Springer, Maury Povich.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, mostly maur back in the day, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
When he would have people on and they were trying
to decide who the father was of the kid.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
When they do the DNA test and the big reveal
at the end, if people will get dramatic, desarming whether
or not you are the father or you're not the father.
I told y'all, he ain't got my nose and stuff
like that, right, yeah, exactly, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So they that guy's so they put this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Together and uh, it's a guy sitting there and two dogs.
They're two dogs. Now, when you first see it, I'm thought,
I've never seen this show before. I've never ever seen this. Yeah,
I swear to god, I had no idea. I didn't
(27:22):
realize they did three of them and it is hysterical.
You should find it. You are not the father the dogs,
and it's on TikTok. It's all over the place. Now,
I didn't realize they did it three times till the
third and one. It wasn't real I thought, this is unbelievable.
They try these dogs like this.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
How do you build the narrative around a talk show
about whether or not a puppy is a dog's you know,
father or something, or the dog is a puppy's father.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
They interview the dog Fred to lead up to the
point where they had the big reveal.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That part ever crossed your mind.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I'm a simpleton, but I thought they trained the dogs,
you know, I thought it was it was a show
of some sort, But I thought they trained the dogs.
I did not realize that was Ai. And now, looking back,
what an idiot I was because it had to be Ai.
But didn't that look real to you? The people sitting there?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
It all looks very realistic. And again this is just
the beginning. It's gonna get so much better. It's gonna
get so much realistic. And there's even there's people that
like they're doing AI with people that have passed away,
like celebrities that have passed away, whether it's Tupac or
some of these other celebrities that are out and like
(28:39):
if you're if you're one of those family members, like like, dude,
what are we doing here? Like I don't need the reminders,
Like I don't need to go down that world. And
for some reason people are into it. Man, you can
make whatever the things that you can do from a
voice standpoint. You remember, you know Randy Travis, the old
country singer. Sure, so he basically signed his voice away
(29:05):
like something along those lines to where because his voice
was starting to fade. After he's gone, they are allowed
to use his voice to create new songs.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well, didn't NBC use the original announcer for the NBA
on NBC who died.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah for their promo?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
So for their promo for the upcoming NBA season for
NBC and Peacock, the promo actually has the voice I
forget the name of the guy who did it, legendary
voice guy. This is NBA on NBC. So John Tesh
was the name of the song round bar Rock. The
voice guy was different and they actually had him cut
a promo in his voice previewing the season for this year,
even though he had already passed.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, I mean he's been gone for a while and
it was his voice.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It was freaky, I'm telling you, man Like people are
opening up Pandora's box and they're going down a lane
that I don't know that a lot of people are
ready for. Just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, we're getting ready for game game four tonight and
a possible Dodgers sweet we'll come back and talk about it,
and if Kevin finds the promo, we'll run that as well.
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
All right, jonasan today for Rodney. Almost out of time,
but before the break we were talking about AI and
AI generated voices. Kevin, you have you found this stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I did so.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Jim Fagan is the name who was the voice of
the NBA on NBC, whose voice you would here at
the intros. So I actually dug up the actual Jim Fagan.
This is back from the nineteen ninety eight NBA Finals.
And then the promo that NBC and Peacock set out
a couple of months ago to preview the beginning of
the NBA season with AI Jim Fagan. So first we're
gonna hear the real Jim Fagan from back in nineteen
(31:16):
ninety eight.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Is the NBA on NBC nineteen NBA Finals. It's eight
six Pleashigo Christmas.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Jazz, all right, So that's real Jim fake.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Hold on one second. Yes, By the way, I really
hope they bring that music back Tuesday. Oh they will,
Oh my god. Yeah, Round Ball Rock is definitely back.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
By the way, that might be AI generated because the
bulls and the jazz and the finals nowadays.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Job good for that, all right.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
So here is the promo that NBC and Peacock put
out a few months ago to preview started the return
of the NBA to NBC this fall.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
The NBA on NBC is bad.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'll see you this October for the NBA season tip off.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
How long has he been dead?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I feel like he died in the mid two thousands
or so.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That is unbelievable if you think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
By the way, he died in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Anyway, you know how many people just got their car,
turned it on and the first thing they hear is
Fred say, how long has he been dead?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But that is crazy. It sounds just like him.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
And if I remember correctly, they talked to his estate,
they talked to his family to get his permission? Can
we use his voice for this?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And they gave their approval in that nuts cakefully, at
least you don't give us the original one one more time?
Get us fired up for the start of the NBA season.
Let's say the ninety eight version.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, I loved this.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Was the NBA NBC the nineteen NBA Finals. Good Night,
It's Game six.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Christmas, So we had the games then NBC I was
the Channel four, so we would do all the post
game shows after the finals. Then those are the best, that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Best little Luke longle versus Mark Eaton.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, we didn't do a show after that, No, we
didn't know we did it when the Lakers not okay,
Luke long Leans, I got you all right. So Dodgers
wrapping up tonight. Let's just end this thing. Everybody go home. Yep,
see you, Katie, thank you, great work. Uh, Kevin, good week,
we'll get a Monday. And Jonas thanks so much. Man,
have a good weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Thanks for letting me hang out guys. Always a good time.
And we continue on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fat issues.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You need serious help.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
My friend Jonas Nason Today, for Rodney, we have to
talk about AI. Lighter, Okay, we have to talk about A.
I'm not gonna forget Kevin. I'm just saying we have
to talk about AI. Kevin, did you look at the
the video I sent you? Just look at it and
then you'll understand why. Later we have to talk about AI. Okay, Katie,
go ahead and roll it.
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
We'll talk about AI later. That's to tease everybody. Oh,
we can talk about it later. All right, now, let's
bring on a man who was not AI but very
much real, our good friend Dylan Hernandez.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Dylan, Hello, Hello, are you guys doing today?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Are you out there already.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, I just rolled into the ballpark, so this is
a really good timing. I was kind of afraid that,
you know, cell reception is not great in the parking
lots up there. So I'm in the stadium. We're all
good to go.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Is anybody walking around without their shoes on? Are they
grounding themselves?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I have not. I'm actually kind of like in the
back right now, so I don't know usha.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Possibly, but you are keeping your shoes on. You are
not walking through the stadium without your shoes.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
No, I'm not. I'm not at one with nature at all,
if you know me, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Are you going to miss the three o'clock starts? Are
you gonna miss that or what?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Uh? Yeah, that's I'm not a big fan at three
o'clock honestly. Just you know, I got kids that I
got to get to school, so my morning's got pretty
jammed up. When when it's a little bit cheirley because
we've got to get out here like wave for first pitch, right,
not just to beat the traffic, but also you know,
the interview room's going and stuff. So I prefer the
later start.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Actually, Okay, so you think it's done tonight, I do.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Yeah, I think the brus are just kind of dead,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I wait, wait, wait wait, I just think the Brewers
are kind of dead. They are, but I just can't
believe you said that.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, I mean it starts
with like the tone set by the manager, right, you know,
I think you know, when you think about like scrappy
teams that kind of have to like overcome a talent
deficit to like you know, scratch and claw their way
past like a superior opponent, there's a same tenacity that
they have about them, right, and there a certain kind
(02:46):
of like lack of respect that they have to have
for their opponent. And this has then kind of the
exact opposite here. Pat Murphy has just been talking the
entire time about how much money the Dodgers spend and
Blake Snell makes more than my entire pitching staff. And
look at this guy and look at that guy. You know,
I kind of go back, right. I mean, it's like
the opposite of you know, the speech that show Heyo
(03:08):
Tani game to the Japanese team before the World WBC Final,
right where he told his teammates, you know, hey, you
know they're right. The US has all these great players,
you know, guys that everybody knows, but for today we
have to throw away our respect for them and go
out there and just beat them. I just don't sense
that energy at all from the Brewers. You know, again,
keep in mind, they gotta, you know, the type of
(03:28):
at bats that they have to take, right, just kind
of fouling off pitches, working up pitch counts. I don't
sense the tenacity, you know, just kind of in that
clubhouse right now that would allow for them to have
those types of bats against you know, superior talent.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It does feel like their World Series was the Cubs,
and the Dodgers' toughest test maybe all postseason to win
another World Series was the Phillies, and almost that this
was the formalities. Do you kind of get that sense
it just in covering these games and and seeing the emotions.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, you know, And I think though the one kind
of difference, right is that you know, and I know
Dave Roberts was kind of maybe criticizing some circles for this,
but but the uh, you know, the game that cursed
off fished against the Phillies, right, he went out for
a second inning, It got kind of ugly, you know,
And basically at that point, it's like the Dodgers just decided, Okay, well,
we don't have a ton of relievers right that we trust,
(04:23):
and we can't afford to use them in games that
we don't win. So even though we're only down down
two runs and theoretically we're still in this game, we're
going to basically punt this game. You know, Pat Murphy
talked yesterday about how with the Brewers, you know, how
Warren down their bullpen is because you know, there were
games that they were down by one or two runs,
and you know what, we had shot that winning those things,
so we threw out our best guys. I mean, their
(04:45):
relievers are all running on fumes right now. You know,
that was supposed to be the bullpen was supposed to
be a huge Brewers advantage coming into this thing. So
those guys are all I mean, they're they're they're they're
dust right now, right and so you know, uh right,
they're you know, they're closers, you know, pitched I don't
know four times in five days now or something. I mean,
you know, it's it just has not been a good
(05:06):
situation for them. There were the Dodgers. I think, you know,
because they again they did punt the game that they could.
They've been a little bit more strategic.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
My guess again, if they're down two runs today, you know,
in the seventh or eighth inning, as much as people
don't want to hear this, they're gonna go. You know,
They're not gonna go to one of their guys. They're
gonna stay away from Bessia and try and the sococting
a situation like that, but that will set them up,
you know, to win the next game. And that's one
thing you know they did they did in the world
right on the World Series run last year. I know
(05:33):
people weren't happy about, you know, watching the team just
kind of punt certain games. But given the shortcomings in
their bullpen, that's something that they have to do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You know, when you look at the Dodges right now,
just where their position starters all healthy, bottom of the lineup,
hits at the top of the lineup, doesn't They can't
be beaten, can they?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I Mean the bullpen is skilled, like the one question, right,
I think, you know, and that's why I do think
like yesterday was so encouraged. I mean, The only reason
that there is any doubt whatsoever whether or not they
win this World Series is because of the bullpen, right,
and you know, coming into this postseason, I think that
there were some concerns, you know that Bessie, you know,
who had made a career high number of appearances this year,
(06:14):
might have been out of gas. You know, Trynan did
not look like trying and even right now doesn't still
look like the Blake Tryner last year. To me, it
looks like more he's getting guys out on guts, you know.
And then Sasaki just kind of, you know, basically materialized
out of thin air to be you know, turned into
this tremendous closer. But I do think that that is
kind of the one area where we're still not sure, right,
And I wouldn't be shocked, honestly for them to find
(06:36):
you know, they haven't blown any late game lead yet,
but with Sasaki, this is all new too, right, And
that's why the last game was so disconcerting that he pitched,
you know, in game one, he came in to close
out the game, couldn't get out of the ninth ending
Trya had to come in, and you know, they kind
of escaped barely escaped. But with Sasaki, you just kind
of don't know. He's never pitched, you know, I think
he's already pitched six times this postseason. My guess is
(06:57):
he's never in his life pitched six times, you know,
in this type of span. So there there is a
bit of a question mark there.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Now.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
That said, again, I think yesterday, you know, I think
they took out trying what with one out in the
fifth inning, and the bullpen covered the rest of the game,
right and you know, just put up zero. So I
think that that was a really great signe there is
at least kind of a blueprint now on how to
get there. You know, I think at the beginning of
the postseason again, that was more like wishful thinking, you
know that, Okay, best, Yeah, trying into Sasaki. Now, this
(07:26):
has happened enough times where I think you can trust
it a little bit. But to me, it's still not
a one hundred percent like you know, sure thing.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I know, Dylan, you wrote about Roki Sasaki and just
sort of his development and his growth, and he's you know,
cracking jokes and that's normally not his demeanor at least
that you've seen from covering him this year. What has
that been like for you being around the team as
much as you are, to see him be introverted, be
a really quiet sort of character on the team, and
(07:56):
then turn into the dominant bullpen guy that he has
this postseason.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah, you know, I think, you know, honestly, you know,
when when they're rehabing him in the minor leaves as
a starter, I did, you know, just kind of right
down on the field, you know, you're just talking, you know,
with people and stuff. And I did bring up a
couple of times, like why don't you just throw this
guy in the pen? Right he throws a hundred, Like,
that's the worst thing that can happen. He's not gonna
be any worse than the guys you have right now now.
(08:23):
So him having success out of the pen hasn't surprised
me too much. What has surprised me is just like, again,
the confidence that has emerged with that. You know, I
thought at his introductory press conference, you know, the body
language is kind of bad. I thought early in the season,
the body language is bad, and in retrospect, is probably
because he knew something was wrong with his shoulder, you know,
and once he kind of fixed that what you're kind
(08:43):
of seeing is a swagger that you typically don't associate
with Japanese pictures. You know, I think just kind of
culturally right, and again, I was raised by like a
Japanese mother, and everything kind of starts like with a
negative thing, right, like I'm unworthy, I'm not good enough.
So that's why, like I have to train like crazy
type thing.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, Uh, hold on, hold on, hold on what
everything starts that with the nuggati.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Yeah, it's it's like yeah, like you no, because like
in the United States, like just take our education, right,
the US, we work on a bribery system.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You tell a kid, hey, you know what, if you
get good grades, you could go to a good college.
If you go to good college, you could get a
good job. You know, you get a good job, you
can make a lot of money. You make a lot
of money. You you know, you can get a pretty
why or whatever. Right in Japan, it's kind of like, well,
you were giving the gift of life, and therefore you
have an obligation to learn, you know, and if you
don't learn, you're like a crap person, you know. So
(09:37):
it's very kind of like obligation kind of dependent, you know,
you can kind of start from a place of feeling
not great, you know, So all these things I understand
when people visit Japan and you're like, oh my god,
the trains like went off on time, Like what a
great place. Being part of that machinery is like suffocating, right,
I mean, there's like a reason they have, like I think,
the second highest suicide rate in the world, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So you know, you know, Jyllan Dylan, it sounds like
doing a show with Fred To be honest with you,
that's not necessary, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
But so my my point is here though, is that, like,
you know, I do think like Otawani is kind of different,
right from like mentally obviously, you know, he's he kind
of fits more of the American kind of killer, you know,
like don't like like all those smiles and stuff fool you, right,
that guy is like a stone cold killer, you know.
And with Sasaki, I kind of feel like he's one
of these guys who thinks that if everything is going well, right,
(10:28):
if if his delivery is fine and he's throwing them,
if he's healthy and he's he executes the way he should,
that nobody can hit him, right, And that's kind of
something again that's pretty rare. I've had conversations you know,
with very accomplished Japanese pictures before, you know, and they've
always kind of dropped, you know, at some point told
me like, yeah, I don't really think I'm that good,
but you know, I'm kind of overcoming that with like
(10:48):
hard work and stuff. And I'm like, wait, wait, stop, right, Like,
do you think Justin Verlander takes a mound thinking he's
not that good? You know, No, Justin Verlander thinks like, hey,
if I if I have my pitches working, no one
is going to hit me. And that's kind of what
I've seen from Susak And you see it on the
mound too, right, every now and then, like when he's
feeling good, he'll just throw that fastball down the middle
(11:08):
and just dare you to hit it. And so, like
I said, I you know, the fact that a guy
who throws one hundred is having success out of the pen,
that part doesn't surprise me. What I am surprised though,
is again the confidence that has emerged. And I think
that that kind of sets them up to be, you know,
the ace of a rotation in the future, right, because
that's kind of the swagger that you need to have,
I think to succeed, you know, at that at that
(11:31):
top tier level in the major leagues.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So, Dylan, the chat has begun. By the way, if
the Dodgers are eliminated or had lost, let's say, to
the Phillies, you wouldn't hear this. But now it's full blown. Well,
the only reason that there is because they have all
the money. That's the only reason. If they didn't have
all the money, they wouldn't be there. You hear that,
What do you say?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I mean, yeah, you know, money buys good players, right.
I Mean, here's the thing though, right, they have been
smart about it. They haven't had I'm not going to
say that they haven't missed, right, because they have, like right,
Pat Kenner Scott was not worth seventy right, that like
a regrettable contract right now, right, you know, but they
hit more than they miss right, And look, you got
(12:13):
to you gotta admit to these owners. You know, I
don't understand the owners of these other teams that complaining. Well,
I mean I understand why. It's because they're greedy, right,
you know, but like it was understood like twenty years ago.
Look like you operate a baseball team, you're gonna lose
money every year until you sell them, right, and that's
when you're really going to cash in because of the
appreciation of franchise values. Now, these guys, you know, they
(12:35):
want to make money, not just every year, but like
every quarter or whatever. Right, And it's just like, look,
you can spend too. Nothing stopping you from doing this.
And frankly, I would argue that, you know, sports teams
are civic institutions. You take over one of these things,
you know, it's not just like a business, right, it's
you owe something to the city. The reason people support
you is because the city's name is on your jersey,
(12:56):
you know. So no, to me, that's that's, you know,
like a bunch of nonsense. I do think you gotta
and look, and you guys know this. I've had issues,
you know, with the owners Dodgers' ownership. I've questioned some
of the things management it's done here. But the one
thing that you cannot question is the commitment to winning,
the commitment to reinvesting their profits. You know, uh, you know,
you got to get credit to sho hail tony two
for deferring all that money freeing it up in theory
(13:17):
for them to sign other players. Uh, this is you know,
this is their success is a result of that commitment.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Dylan, we were kicking around NLCS MVP, like who's who
would you give the award to? Because it's not like
anybody's really stood out to where there's just this overwhelming
feeling like, oh, the series you know he's had is
just so much better than everybody else is. It feels
like everybody's just performing, especially from a pitching standpoint, up
to what the expectations were when they joined the team.
(13:49):
So if you had if you're voting right now, NLCS MVP,
who are you giving it to?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I would probably split it between Snell and Yamamoto, Right.
I really think the way those guys pitched in games
one and two set the tone for the series. Again,
I think it took the Brewers out of it. I
think they also write the fact that they were able
to pitch as deep as they did really did save
you know, their bullpen. Well, the you know Brewers, I
think in each of the first two games, I think
(14:16):
they used six pitchers in both games.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, the Dodgers that first game had to you know,
do the Sasaki trying and thing, but it was relatively brief,
so to me, it would be those two guys again.
And I don't know if you can split votes or what,
but that would be my pick if it if it
were to end today.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, well you're our MVP, Dylan, and never forget it.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I appreciate that because again I never heard that from
my Japanese moment right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Up, Oh all right, Dylan, thank you have fun?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
All right, thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Thanks boy?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That that got dark.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He's never said that before. Yeah, I've never heard him
say that before.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, but if you like, if you watch, because I
remember remember the Tokyo series earlier this year, like the
reason why the Dodgers and Cubs were in the Tokyo
By the way, I listen, I know you were guess
where I was here on this show?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Like I was, How was it back here? Because I
had a lot of fun there.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Uh you know, same old, same old. You know we
weren't we weren't you know, giving you know, hand out
gloves as we walked in to steal foul balls from
Max Munsey like like Rodney did h. So you guys
had a great time. We were just back here slumming it,
you know, just doing doing our best. But one of
the reasons, like the appeal to have the Dodgers in
(15:38):
the Cubs was how many Japanese players, both of them have,
And I remember hearing this about, you know, Saya Suzuki
of the Cubs and just sort of how the Japanese
culture they're really hard on themselves when they struggle, they're like,
really really hard. And in baseball, look, majority of the
(15:59):
time you're going to strug like you're gonna get out
seven out of ten times. But in the culture, the
demand is at a level that a lot of other
cultures it isn't the same. So it's not that surprising.
I just didn't know we were taking a turn down
that road there, Like I felt therapeutic, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'd never heard that before ever. Now you might find
this interesting fans because we stay on top of things.
Right now, I see five Brewers on the field at
Dodger Stadium, you do. They're walking around without their shoes on.
One was laying down kind of sunning himself. And I
believe it's going to be jose Kntana starting tonight for
the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
What is with this grounding thing that you're into.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
See, I'm not into it. I found it very odd, Kevin.
We were out at the stadium, we're having a nice show.
We're looking down at was the reds. All of a
sudden we see like six people walking around. They don't
have their shoes on. Somebody's laying out like they think
there were at the beach at Malibu. And I just
found it on and I said, why are these people
walking around without their shoes where they're grounding themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, but it wasn't just players. It was like staffers.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yeah, a couple of them in right field, right, Yeah,
just walking around.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It is a thing, like it really is a thing
to where people will they feel like they're if you
start your day walking barefoot on the soil, it does
something to you to where you become one with the earth.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So my point is this, and I'm glad you pointed
that out. My point is this, we walk in here
to iHeartMedia. Should we take our shoes off and become
one with the big I heart heart.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It doesn't work that way, Like it's got to be
on the actual soil itself.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, the building is built on soil.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, but there's like layers above that, you know what
I mean, Like there's you know, it's like for to
put it in terms that you can understand, you know,
imagine like the building would be the condom, you know,
like you don't want like that, Like there's there's just
there's there's a layer between that and the earth. You've
got to actually put your bare feet on the soil.
(18:03):
And this isn't just a baseball thing. It's not just
a Dodgers thing. There's a lot of professional fighters who
believe in this. They think it's a it's a way
to get your mind and your body, like it does
something to you. I can't do it because my neighbors
don't clean up dog crap. And I'm not willing to
step in a in a in a in a giant
load because you know, somebody you know was lazy and
(18:26):
they felt like, oh it's a little bit chilly out here.
I got to get back inside. And the only place
where there's grass where I live, because again I don't
live you know in the lavish environment that you do. Fred. Sure,
there's like a small area and it's just filled.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
With dog crap.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's just landmines of feces.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Everywhere year.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You have no grass by your house.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, there's dog crap on it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, what I'm saying is you have your home possesses
a very small patch of grass where all the dogs evacuate.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Their fred I live in thousand and oaks, not thousand grass.
So there's oak trees, there's a thousand of them.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There's just not a lot of.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Grass where the at.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Why don't you scale a tree with your shoes off?
Wouldn't it be the same difference if you live in
thousand oaks.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, my toes are so I have this thing to
where my no, my big toe, the second and I
forget what it's called, but the second toe next to
my big toe overlaps my big toe. All right, I
don't I'm just like, I don't know, I forget what
it's called. But that is a thing to where like
my big toe kind of hides underneath my second my
(19:36):
second toe like this.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like a deformity.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
No, it's more like if you were to do it
like if like the toes are we a layer like this. Yeah,
I mean you can probably AI it because you're on
this AI rampage right now. That's just really disturbing based
on your research, okay. So anyway, all right, Oh just
roll it close.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
To this, Okay.
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Like twenty nine Coachella Valley's Best Bet. Okay, Now, I
didn't really realize Jonas how intense these aid fakes were.
Oh boy, I really didn't. I'm being dead serious. And
I found two things and I sent them both to
you and Kevin, did you see both of them yet?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I saw the first one, okay, and it made me
terrified to open up the second one.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Right, look at both of them, Kevin, You look at
both of them. And when we come back, we're going
to talk about this. The question becomes when we see things,
are they real or fake? And we'll give you a
couple of examples.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
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Speaker 2 (21:03):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Thanks to Dylan Hernandez at the time for sitting in
Jonas and today for Rodney. I just want to say
I thought AI was really cool and more and more
people use AI for a number of things, presentations, you
can create videos with them, and I thought this was
like really cool and it obviously is going to be
(21:25):
a big part of the future.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
We used it earlier to figure out that you had
nothing to do with Shaq coming La.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's right, but it was incorrect. Okay, right, you used Costco.
What'd you call it?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Groch oh grock?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right, Well, that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Why did Costco have to catch a stray?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because I thought it was called cost I can't remember
what it was called because it was so wrong, and
that proves AI is wrong. Anyway, you can make animated
figures with AI, and I am told that for them
to be at their very best if you were using
an AI system. They're eight seconds long. That's really from
a video perspective, how long they move and then I
(22:07):
mean voices go longer, but just the video so it's
crisp and clear. They're about eight seconds each, so they
have to build them at eight second intervals. So I
was sitting here watching looking at stuff, and I saw
two pieces of video so I sent it to Jonas,
and I sent it to Kevin and Katie saw him
as well. The first one is a woman and she's
(22:31):
on the balance beam. Yeah, as if it's the Olympics
now to be there. The woman doesn't look like she
should be on the balance beam. She's very heavy. Is
that fair, Jonas?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, that's one way to put it. She's yeah, she
is heavy, too heavy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. Wait, some would say, right, yeah, she's you know,
an individual of large girth anyway, almost.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like she would be, you know, prominently featured on my
eight TLC reality show.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know what I mean, like a yeah, he's a
big girl. Yeah, all right. Anyway, I'm looking at this
and I'm honest to God, and maybe you guys thought
very differently of it when you first saw it. I thought,
this is going to be amazing. It looked really real
to me. It did. Now, granted, she seemed very large
to be on the beam, but I thought this is
(23:30):
pretty amazing that somebody this big would be performing. I
absolutely bought this. And then she takes two steps and
she flips, and at that point, not only does she
crash through the beam, she crashes through the floor. And
there was that one moment, I swear to you that
one moment where I thought, oh my god, is she
(23:53):
all right? I did not know that was a I'm serious.
Did you when you first saw that, before you even
clicked that you just saw, did you think that was Ai?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
No? I saw it because I thought you were sending
it over as this is really impressive, like a really
impressive athletic feet because I couldn't. I couldn't stand on
a balance being without falling over. And as she went
for the jump, I started to notice, Okay, this is
gonna go bad. And my big concern was, please don't
let it be like a catastrophic knee injury, because I
(24:27):
can't see those like I cannot see those that I
just don't have the stomach for it. But then it
just looked like, you know, somebody was uh, you know,
blowing up an old casino in Vegas, like you know,
like they're just they're detonating like the palms, and it's like, okay,
well we got to build a stadium here, so.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But I couldn't tell. My point is, honestly, until that
final crash, I didn't know that was Ai.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's the things that you can do and here's the
here's the crazy part. We're at the infinite stages of
it all. Correct, it's gonna get better, And by better,
I mean who knows if it's if it's not gonna
get worse, because you can do things with AI now,
whether it's voice generated, whether it's image generated, that is
(25:18):
so realistic that you're not sure what the hell to
believe it's really like. So when I fill in when
it's when Brady Quinn's not on the morning show, LeVar
Arrington and I do it, and we call the show
Black and drac because I look like Dracula and he's black.
And so just to clear that up for everybody, people
(25:39):
will send in AI generated pictures of Black and Rack
of LaVar and I and it's literally like the one
today was Black Eye with Dreads playing a guitar, nice
shades on and then Dracula looking like a voyeur in
the background, and it looks so realistic and it's all
(26:01):
made up and done within the matter of seconds. Like
the technology is wild.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Kevin, When you saw the woman on the beam, did
you think it first it was real?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, well then that's sad.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Honestly, I just go off with a reaction of the
crowd and the people surrounding, and the fact that they
didn't really react all that much was an immediate giveaway
to me that it was AI.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay, then there was the second one I sent, and
I don't know if you have seen this. If not,
you have to search it out. It's it's on TikTok
and it's called you Are Not the Father, and it's
it's basically a Jerry Springer, Maury Povich.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, mostly maur back in the day, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
When he would have people on and they were trying
to decide who the father was of the kid.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
When they do the DNA test and the big reveal
at the end, if people will get dramatic, desarming whether
or not you are the father or you're not the father.
I told y'all, he ain't got my nose and stuff
like that, right, yeah, exactly, stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So they that guy's so they put this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Together and uh, it's a guy sitting there and two dogs.
They're two dogs. Now, when you first see it, I'm thought,
I've never seen this show before. I've never ever seen this. Yeah,
I swear to god, I had no idea. I didn't
(27:22):
realize they did three of them and it is hysterical.
You should find it. You are not the father the dogs,
and it's on TikTok. It's all over the place. Now,
I didn't realize they did it three times till the
third and one. It wasn't real I thought, this is unbelievable.
They try these dogs like this.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
How do you build the narrative around a talk show
about whether or not a puppy is a dog's you know,
father or something, or the dog is a puppy's father.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
They interview the dog Fred to lead up to the
point where they had the big reveal.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That part ever crossed your mind.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I'm a simpleton, but I thought they trained the dogs,
you know, I thought it was it was a show
of some sort, But I thought they trained the dogs.
I did not realize that was Ai. And now, looking back,
what an idiot I was because it had to be Ai.
But didn't that look real to you? The people sitting there?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
It all looks very realistic. And again this is just
the beginning. It's gonna get so much better. It's gonna
get so much realistic. And there's even there's people that
like they're doing AI with people that have passed away,
like celebrities that have passed away, whether it's Tupac or
some of these other celebrities that are out and like
(28:39):
if you're if you're one of those family members, like like, dude,
what are we doing here? Like I don't need the reminders,
Like I don't need to go down that world. And
for some reason people are into it. Man, you can
make whatever the things that you can do from a
voice standpoint. You remember, you know Randy Travis, the old
country singer. Sure, so he basically signed his voice away
(29:05):
like something along those lines to where because his voice
was starting to fade. After he's gone, they are allowed
to use his voice to create new songs.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well, didn't NBC use the original announcer for the NBA
on NBC who died.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah for their promo?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
So for their promo for the upcoming NBA season for
NBC and Peacock, the promo actually has the voice I
forget the name of the guy who did it, legendary
voice guy. This is NBA on NBC. So John Tesh
was the name of the song round bar Rock. The
voice guy was different and they actually had him cut
a promo in his voice previewing the season for this year,
even though he had already passed.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, I mean he's been gone for a while and
it was his voice.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It was freaky, I'm telling you, man Like people are
opening up Pandora's box and they're going down a lane
that I don't know that a lot of people are
ready for. Just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, we're getting ready for game game four tonight and
a possible Dodgers sweet we'll come back and talk about it,
and if Kevin finds the promo, we'll run that as well.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
All right, jonasan today for Rodney. Almost out of time,
but before the break we were talking about AI and
AI generated voices. Kevin, you have you found this stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I did so.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Jim Fagan is the name who was the voice of
the NBA on NBC, whose voice you would here at
the intros. So I actually dug up the actual Jim Fagan.
This is back from the nineteen ninety eight NBA Finals.
And then the promo that NBC and Peacock set out
a couple of months ago to preview the beginning of
the NBA season with AI Jim Fagan. So first we're
gonna hear the real Jim Fagan from back in nineteen
(31:16):
ninety eight.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Is the NBA on NBC nineteen NBA Finals. It's eight
six Pleashigo Christmas.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Jazz, all right, So that's real Jim fake.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Hold on one second. Yes, By the way, I really
hope they bring that music back Tuesday. Oh they will,
Oh my god. Yeah, Round Ball Rock is definitely back.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
By the way, that might be AI generated because the
bulls and the jazz and the finals nowadays.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Job good for that, all right.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
So here is the promo that NBC and Peacock put
out a few months ago to preview started the return
of the NBA to NBC this fall.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
The NBA on NBC is bad.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'll see you this October for the NBA season tip off.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
How long has he been dead?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I feel like he died in the mid two thousands
or so.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That is unbelievable if you think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
By the way, he died in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Anyway, you know how many people just got their car,
turned it on and the first thing they hear is
Fred say, how long has he been dead?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But that is crazy. It sounds just like him.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
And if I remember correctly, they talked to his estate,
they talked to his family to get his permission? Can
we use his voice for this?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And they gave their approval in that nuts cakefully, at
least you don't give us the original one one more time?
Get us fired up for the start of the NBA season.
Let's say the ninety eight version.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, I loved this.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Was the NBA NBC the nineteen NBA Finals. Good Night,
It's Game six.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Christmas, So we had the games then NBC I was
the Channel four, so we would do all the post
game shows after the finals. Then those are the best, that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Best little Luke longle versus Mark Eaton.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, we didn't do a show after that, No, we
didn't know we did it when the Lakers not okay,
Luke long Leans, I got you all right. So Dodgers
wrapping up tonight. Let's just end this thing. Everybody go home. Yep,
see you, Katie, thank you, great work. Uh, Kevin, good week,
we'll get a Monday. And Jonas thanks so much. Man,
have a good weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Thanks for letting me hang out guys. Always a good time.
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