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October 2, 2025 42 mins
Roggin and Rodney are joined by Gary and Shannon from KFI and then the Dodgers former GM, Ned Colletti. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on

(00:02):
a five to seventy LA Sports. Later this hour, the
man of the Big Chair, Ned Kaletti, will join the program.
What Rodney would a treat to? Friends have stopped in
to say hello from KFI A M six forty just
down the hall just completed their show. Gary and Shannon
are here with us. Hi, Rodney, will you open your
MinC do you leave?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Do you even know how to do radio?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (00:24):
Fred?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
There?

Speaker 6 (00:25):
How about a You know when they designed this building,
they never microphones in the right spot next to the right.
I mean this microphone is on my right. Literally button
is at my right hand. The microphone is two feet
away on my left. There's there's another microphone that's about
five inches away, but it's not connected to the it's yours.

Speaker 7 (00:46):
It's on, Fred, Well, lean into your mic.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Lean in.

Speaker 8 (00:49):
It's still not working, Fred, No, it's.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Working now, is it? Yeah? Mine's off? Now? Even better?

Speaker 8 (00:55):
Lord? Radio around here.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
There go, Rodney? Things are going well here right, there's
one too many mics on? Now can't we turn that off?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I can? I can hear?

Speaker 7 (01:05):
Okay, now now turn that one?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
All right? That works? Shannon, you talk. He great idea. Fred,
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Let me
stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
N I don't like when Rodney gets upset.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes, you're not gonna like this either.

Speaker 7 (01:24):
No, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, yeah, Fred. Fred has moved part time to the desert. Right.

Speaker 9 (01:32):
He's doing his thing in the desert. He's a new
sunny bono. God rest his soul.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
He's the guy the mayor. You the new mayor.

Speaker 9 (01:41):
Yes, you're the mayor of the desert a Cochella Valley.
You're the mayor pre skiing.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Fred would be in a tank top when I came
in here. You know, doesn't everybody have to wear a
top in the desert.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
We don't need to see that.

Speaker 10 (01:54):
So Fred gets in maybe once, you know, a month
or two. He comes in a couple of days, maybe
a week a month. You know, I pop in on
a regular basis from here.

Speaker 11 (02:07):
Regular from hearing is that this is this you two
coming in studio because Fred's there one day of the
last seventy two days.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Is insulting to me and it's offensive.

Speaker 9 (02:25):
He's off and I don't like it at all, and
I'm not ashamed to say it to you.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
To let me make you feel better when you came
in when I last laid eyes on the wonderful Rodney Pete. Sure,
he's got a smile that's a million watts. Yeah, And
whenever you're.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Forgiven, thank you quick.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
I was going to go farther, but I don't have to.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's true, it's true. And Rodney has a genuine smile.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
And he'll just stand from our studio. You can kind
of look out into the hallway and you can, and
he just when he when he stands there and waves
at you.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
It's a constant, consistent.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:05):
And he has a presence about him too, Rodney.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Don't you know when Rodney's in the building now, you
know when friend's here. It's kind of like when you
get a fly trapped in your car.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
You can't get him out?

Speaker 8 (03:24):
What is that? How get in here?

Speaker 7 (03:29):
I don't get rid of it trapped in your.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Open the back windows.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
You can't kill it because then you feel.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Bad, Right, You can't fly away.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
You can't take too much attention to it because then
your eyes are off the road, you run into something.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Yeah, gotta give it just enough attention.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
We love your friends.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I appreciate that. Yeah, I just flew in today like that.
So Rodney, Oh, nice job on Sunday with the charger, Shannon.
They lost anyway, because I played it down.

Speaker 8 (04:07):
I'm the left had.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Wow, what kind of Scott was that?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
That was a really really sad shot.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know, I always like to go, so it's a
little effort into it. I would like to see these
guys when I'm here. And I popped into their show
real quick and said hello, And then Shannon wanted to
bring something up, and I said, We're not going to
bring it up unless we do it on our show, Rotney,
So you have the floor, the two of you, please.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well, I got some evidence delivered to me of Fred's
parking job yesterday at Dodger Stadium and it was atrocious. Frankly,
I think we should call the Who do you call
when you d when somebody should not be driving?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Yeah, you can call the DMV.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
You can report people like uh anonymous.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
Yeah, he's given up the ghost.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
But when it's not Grandpa, when it's Fred, when it's
like a normal person, Grandpa is not normal.

Speaker 8 (05:10):
But no, Fred is not a grandpa. Are your grandpa yet?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Maybe?

Speaker 8 (05:17):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like, could I call in anybody and just tell them
this person should not be driving because because Fred.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Is the issue.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
What the issue is this, Fred, You're parking a large vehicle,
but you're used to driving a large vehicle.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
You have a Jeep, but you're driving.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
A truck right now, and somehow you parked in four
spots at the same time.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, that is accurate. Now let me just share this
with you. I do have a Toyota Tandra. Thank you
to Anthony creating a Toyota of the Desert. He's my friend.
Those are in something different, okay.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
And or just since with an official Parker or something.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Since I've been working or something instead of always give
the giant vehicles, I've had like eight cars from the
guy eight. So he puts me in these big hundreds.
And when he first put me in and I said,
you know, I'll kill somebody in this. I should not
be allowed to drive something to speaking, Yeah, you're gonna
love it, just drive it. So then I started driving
them and I thought, hey, this is pretty cool. The

(06:18):
problem is if you were me operating a vehicle of
that size, very much like Rodney has a giant black
SUV that he tried to run me over with at uh.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
It wasn't it was mistake.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, he tried. He came at me one hundred miles
an hour.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
He knows what he's doing with the vehicle.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You right.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Anyway, I try to be really careful because there was
a period of time in my life. I don't want
to relive it with you now. I was called the
mobile assassin.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I had some issues. He said that out loud. I said,
none of it. Listen, they were we've been looking for
the mobile assassin for seventeen years. But it wasn't my bulb.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Switchboard's life now, none of it. None of it was
my fault. I was hit every time. I thought I
was a very good driver because I survived all these times,
like I heard. But anyway, yes, okay, and love to
talk about it. So anyway, I've got this big truck
and I really want to be careful about parking it
because I don't want to scratch it or you know,
do anything like that. Hit the rims. So when you're
out in the desert, you have to understand how people

(07:25):
park their first you have to understand the.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Eighth when I hit the red fred rolling on.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Doves, you have to understand their age are a little older.
So they might not be as sharp parking right, you know,
you kind of just get in there.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I got there yesterday, and first I can't back up.
That's another thing. I cannot back up, you know. It's like.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So anyway, anyway, I get there. I look, there's nobody
there and it's throwing out layups.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Left right now.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
It's too easy.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I get there and I'm thinking, nobody's here. This is great.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
E's early in the morning. And I'll park right here
so that I'll be able to drive right out. I
want to have to back out. I won't have to
do anything, and I'll be put it in the right
direction because I can't back up in the big truck.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's not good for me.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
It's not good for me.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
What do you mean it's not good for you, It's
not good. I'm assuming this is a newer truck for
the technology and.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
The cameras and yeah, the backup for you.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, but then you have to put their fingers out.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
You're like my mother. You don't use the rear view mirror.
You think it's just there for decoration, right, The.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Backup camera confuses you. You shouldn't. You should never take
your eyes off the roads. If you watch the camera.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
This is not good. This is the DMV case.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I read the DMV handbooks. So I pull in it
and I park, and I think to myself, this is great.
There's nobody here. I'll just park just like this, and
then I'll pull right out now to be fair and
to be honest, because I don't want to mislead anybody here.
I did get out and look at it and said, really,
not as straight as it should be. I did say
that to myself.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
And I walked away.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
No, I thought about it for.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
A moment, and then you thought, I'm Fred f and Rogan.
I can park the way I.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
No, I didn't think that. Here's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
If I tried to back up and straighten it out,
it's going to take me ten minutes going to.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Camp back up. So then I thought, well, there's nobody here.
Who's going to be here? I was here the day before.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
And the party off a Dodger stadium.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
But the day before it was basically empty when I
came out it too, so I said, well, nobody will
be here again, I see, so I'll just leave it
like this. Who's going to know who's going to see it?
Who's going to care. Who's there's nobody here but us.
So I go in, I do the show. We're having
a nice show. By the way, Roger and I had
a very nice show. Of course, we're enjoying the show.

(09:36):
We're enjoying the time at Dodger Stadium. And Matt, Matt
Muddy Smith walks in and he goes and he kills
the party. Yeah, here's what he says to me. He goes,
I want to show you something. I said, all right,
show me. He goes, is that your truck? I said,
what do you mean? Is that my truck? He goes,
is that your truck?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes? Or no?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I want why do you want to know? He goes like, oh,
it's part I said, so what who cares? I thought
it would. I did a very good job parking. Then
I find out that everybody said I was like in
four different spaces, which is an exaggeration, Shannon, and you
know it.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
You're right, And you know what, I forgive you because
I've seen Matt shame people before for just everyday human things.
And yeah, I'm going to fall on team Fred on
this one. I believe that you can park the way
that you park. I feel that you've earned it like
Colonel Jessup.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
That is one way, Yes, that is one way to
make the argument.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Thanks you you calm down here in his blankety blank
uniform and make you nervous for Red.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Absolutely not, No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know why didn't make me nervous because I'm completely oblivious.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
You're decorated. You're decorated. That's right.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
He eats breakfast four hundred yards from three thousand cubans
that are trained to kill him.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Spot Fred, Yeah, I need you in a parking spot.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
Your dark right, you parked like that?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Wasn't that bad?

Speaker 8 (11:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I still don't think Fred's getting the reference, you guys, No,
he's not.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
There was a movie one time.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Won a bunch of awards there, Fred, and won a
bunch of them.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
That's pretty good. You guys are my favorite show. You're
so much fun.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, we're just you know, we're happy to have you,
guys all things. Just love you, guys, We love you.
We'd like you to come in more. We're here all
the time, Fred, Well.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
You know that is a good point. We are here
all the time.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
And you know what, you guys that are making the mistakes.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You know, I even months I do feel your pain
though I work for no I bought my truck at
thors and Buick GMC right there off the two ten
there in Pasadena, and before damn, ma'am Gary, you next
and anyway, before I bought my truck, they let me

(12:06):
kind of drive around some vehicles and they put me
in a Yukon that Clayton Kershaw drove.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
For a season. It was massive and I couldn't back
it out. Fred, I was exactly the same way.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I had to have whatever person was with me at
the time back out my vehicle. I had Dana and
security have to back out my vehicle. I had Gary
have to back out my vehicle, my husband. I could
not back that thing up. It was too bad.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
Do you know I'm not making any jokes.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
I didn't point, I didn't even make I didn't make
a motion.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
I didn't say anything about up. I never said it.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I remember that song. I think it was mysical exactly famous.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
But I get it, Fred, it's still you.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Know guys, I uh, you know when I got my
Mercedes Maybox from Monty Carlo that was shipped over here.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
You got the money Carlo edition.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I got it.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
Just called Jacob right from you know, Okay, we're leaving.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Is that it?

Speaker 9 (13:22):
Yes, Princess Caroline who's and Stephanie over there decided that
they were going to hook me up, and Prince Albert said, no,
I want you to have the may Box.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I okay, those are beautiful cars, legroom one yeah if yeah, yeah,
Well if I was.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
An NBA player, I'd be forty years younger and six
foot eleven, so.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, but not going to happen today. Why would you
be younger because I don't think I should play in
the NBA right now?

Speaker 9 (13:55):
You think right now? Oh oh yeah, we didn't say former. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I'd have to be younger. You could play center back
like when you're in your pride.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
That's the center. Five times have changed.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's great, all right, you guys, good bye guys, Love
you guys.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Thank you Gary and Shanner for k F. I you know,
I just love when they stopped by. They're the best.
Love them, love them all right another one of the best.
They were here before we were here. What at the station? Yeah,
weren't they KFI? No Garyan Shannon, No, no, no doing
their showing KF is what you're saying before we started.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh yes, welcome.

Speaker 9 (14:52):
Back on her Throat throw Back Thursday robby pet Fred Rogan.
Many thanks to Gary and Sander from KFI. They are
the last day the nicest people. So enjoy starting the
building with them when we're all together.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Very cool, of course you do, mister smile, Light it up?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Ready, light it up?

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Another guy lights it up. Love when he joins the show.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Let's talk some Dodgers with the man in the big chair,
Ned Colletting, Ned, thanks.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
For jumping on here.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Hey my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, Well, if you're in the big chair, how are
you feeling right now?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I'm feeling great. I think that nobody can match LA's
starting pitching and what you would call excess. At this point,
starting pitching is going to sit in the bullpen, and
I think it makes to one area that people have
question about ultimately much much stronger.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Isn't it funny the way the season played out. Last year,
you had the bullpen save you during the World Series
you ran out of starters. This year the bullpen is struggling.
Guys have been hurt and now you have to go
to starters in the bullpen. I have to tell you
need anytime that gate opens, and maybe for the last
three weeks. Anytime that gate opens, Rottney said, yesterday, remember

(16:13):
pedro Bia, as everybody used.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
To boo, which was wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, now people are so shocked and stunned and concerned
they can't even speak when that gate opens and somebody
comes running in. How could everybody in the bullpen fall
apart at the same time.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, sometimes when you're really good, everybody gets to be
really good. One thing leads to another, leads to another,
and it's almost a group confidence. And the opposite can
happen too, where you'll watch one of your teammates struggle.
You go out there and you get a little bit
of doubt in your mind because you know how talented
they are, and it doesn't work. So one thing kind

(16:49):
of leads to another most of the time, whether we
call that momentum personal momentum, or just really confidence that
it builds from success or builds from a lack of success.
But I like where this group is at. I like it.
I like it better than I like any other group
out there.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I love the starting pitching, and now since they're hitting,
it's a whole new ball game. So last night, my
grand plan and You know, everybody should listen to me,
because when I say something it makes sense. I listen
to you, and you know it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I said from the beginning, let's put the machine in
the game as a reliever and not one inning ned.
Let's put him out there, let him go two three,
bang it out, and we get out of here. They
put him in last night, and I was like, oh
my god, now he's now he's infected. Now he's getting
hit as well. It didn't work last night, and when
that happened, I thought, now that could be a problem

(17:44):
because that was the guy we're counting on.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, but I still think, you know what I mean,
one one game doesn't dictate how somebody's going to do.
And I just think that they have more options than
anybody else has. I mean, look at look at the team.
Are gonna play really really good team, but they how
are you good?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Matt?

Speaker 9 (18:05):
I just had to jump in real quick, Nick, because
look who's asking the question. You know, think about who's
asking that question about one game? And I was in
the panic meter and all that. I'm glad you said
that one game. You can't just go one game?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Come on, no, no, his body of work has been very,
very good, and so I'm not I'm not worried about
that at all. But you know, you look at the
other team soon. The other team is not without its flaws.
And sure you're trying to get you know, the team
that that we watch all the time to be as
perfect as possible, but the other teams are flawed too.

(18:38):
The only I think that Philadelphia is the San Diego
of last year. I think they get past Philadelphia, which
I think they should. I think that I don't think
anybody's going to challenge them after that age. Sure, anything
can happen, but I think the Philadelphia Philly series is
almost a world series, Yeah, because I don't think anybody
can compete with them after Philly.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. Man.
You said it.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
You said it in this series against the Reds that
you'd start Otani game one and he would just delay
the series. You meant to start in game one against
the Phillies.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right, Well, I could have meant both. You know, maybe
I was the first one, but you know, it looks
like I'll be right on the second one, you know,
to start there. I think he's been terrific, and you
know he's he's unfazed. Philadelphia is a tough place to play.
There's no doubt Dodgers travel well. A lot of fans

(19:37):
support this and that they will be drowned out by Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's the only place.

Speaker 9 (19:43):
That's the only place that the Dodger fans will be
drowned out, absolutely exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And and their bullpen sits in a visiting bullpen, sits
in a place that you know people are going to
be listening to it all day long. But as you
watch them, the body of workers show hey wonders. He
ever look overmatched by anything. And I've said it before,
one of the greatest things that I look at him,
I see someone who came into last year with the

(20:11):
highest expectations of any player I can remember, massive contract,
structured differently, all this expectation and exceeds it. And then
he follows this year up and exceeds last year. So
he's the one guy that can really set a tone
and there's gonna be no fluster with him. Same thing

(20:32):
with Snell, and I think Yamamoto too. You know, we'll
find out a little bit more about Yamamoto and and
Sasaki as a series of develops, but I think you
start with him, and it also gives you a chance
to use him later if you need to, and that's
that's wise. You don't want to put him in the
middle sea. You only use them once.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
Yeah, you got that option, But you're right about that.
Nothing's fasing. It feels like even you know, most guys
how a beout. If you put out like a heart
rate monitor on Otani the same number oh oh on
account and one to two on account or two on account,
he would have that same heart rate.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't have any doubt. And I think I think
he and there's some players that love the last month
of a season in any sport. They are just made
for it. And I think and I think he's also
made for the moment. And you know that's been phenomenal.
And who has that Philly's good Swolver Harper on and

(21:32):
on getting Trey Turner back. They're good, There's no doubt.
I think they're the second best team in the National League,
maybe the second best team in baseball, but they're not
the best team. And I think that that shoe Hey
says to Tone in Game one and a bunch of ways, see.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I would agree with you, Ned on the Phillies and
the Dodgers. That would be the World Series. And I
think the Dodgers win the series. And I mentioned this
earlier in the week. Tell me if I'm in the
ballpark here. Philadelphia is very good, and even at the
beginning of the year, you knew they would be very good.
But when the last time those teams got together, one
critical thing happened one and the Dodgers hit their pitchers.

(22:10):
The Dodgers actually came alive against their pitchers. You're going
to see those same guys now in the playoffs. Those
are their pitchers, and the Dodgers could hit them. And
I said, that is the whole key, because Dodger pitching
is going to do the job. They've had the best
starter going in now, no question. But they hit Philly,

(22:30):
and I think that's the key. They hit the Phillies.
That's why I think they will win that series.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
I don't disagree. You know, Phillis got good starting pitchers.
They're missing their best guys. Acqueeler difference maker, elite can
pitch with with anybody the Dodgers have, but he's gonna
be sitting on the couch walking it. Okay, Sanchez has
had a real nice year. Okay, Lozardo's had a real
good years. Warris has had a good year, on and on,
you know, and then they picked up the Closer at

(22:57):
the deadline. But again, you know they are not as
unhittable as you watch Snell pitch, you watch Tany pitch,
you watch Yamamoto pitch. Those guys are so difficult to hit.
Their ball travel is probably forty five feet before it
does anything, and then what it does is unhittable for
the most part. And Assaki is the same way. So

(23:20):
nobody's got that depth. And you know, I wouldn't worry
about she, and I think she'll be fine. And you
got Glass now too. We even haven't even seen him yet.
You know, you haven't seen a guy that would probably
be the second the second starter for most teams. He
hasn't even been in a game yet.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now you talked about Sazaki. Everybody's a prisoner of the moment,
so you know everybody got excited at that very second.
But oh my god, after watching that last night, he
may be the closer by default because I don't know
who else you trust right now. And if he can
keep that up, he is unhittable.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Ned well, I can't. I go back to the Angels
of two thousand and two and you know they brought
a kid up in September and he and he ran
him to the end. I guess, I think, and you know,
it's that can happen. The only the thing I'm curious
to see. And I was talking to John Hartung and
Jerry hirston last night and the guys from the network

(24:17):
that you know, pitching in Philly is going to be different,
and he's going to be coming in in a situation
with that bullpen located where it is and all of that,
and we'll, you know, to to Rodney's point about show, Hey,
you know, will his heart beat, will he be able
to just just take a breath, relax and just deal,
because if he can do that, it's over. I think

(24:40):
the Dodgers need to win one game in Philly, and
I think it'll be may be tough getting back to
Philly from Philly.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I think, yeah, I think they they win in Philly,
it might be a rap.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yes, you because I don't know that Philly wins in
l a.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
Yeah, think about who that coming back pitching and uh
and if they get back, when they get back to La.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know what's really interesting is how the game has
changed to a little bit. Look at the two guys
that hit at the top of the order for both teams.
They had one hundred and eleven home runs combined. Have
you ever seen anything about that? One hundred and eleven
home runs combined? Yeah, and two hundred and forty some
RBIs from your leadoff guy.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Now, what happened to the days when you had you know,
it was the the you know, slap hitter, the guy
could get on, the guy hit for average, and really
just what happened to that those days?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, your best hitter was was hitting third and not first.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's a different, different day. It's
why the bottom of the orders are so important for
every team. And that's another place I think the doctors
have the upper hand. I think the most of you know,
we know who the big three are getting. Will Smith
back is the fourth would be great, But you look
at it, Look at the other guys are hit near
the bottom. Who's got that? I mean, this is how

(26:03):
they built the team. But you know who's got what
they've got at the bottom of their order. You just
don't have. You don't have a guy like t O
at the bottom of any other order but this one,
and you know, on and on, and you know, we
know what Kik does this time of year. You know, pause,
You got all sorts of guys that that keep that
lineup going, you know, getting Max back. I know he's

(26:25):
not hit didn't hit well in his first series. You know, Miggi,
who after Curse retires, will be the last guy standing
from my ear from a long time. You know, But
I mean, you know, it's that's why they build it
the way they did it, because they've got as other
people run out of talent or the talent takes a
step back, their talent stays at the elite level. And

(26:48):
as you match up guys, whether it's starters, whether it's
your bullpen, whether it's your lineup. Yeah, there's going to
be some some guys that can match match you know,
Mookie or match Freddy. There's guys that can make them.
But as you get deeper into it, the matchup stop
and it's one sided. Go through the rotations, same thing.

(27:09):
Got guys that can pitch, but as they get through
one or two games, suddenly you're running somebody out there
that the Dodgers, you have a chance to really feast
on nobody's got what they've got, and they know how
and they've all Nobody's also got their experience. So you've
got experience, You've got hunger and passion. You've got more
depth across the board than any other team still playing.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
And that being said, what about will Smith do the
Dodgers have to have him in that series against Philly
to win?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yes and no, And I think you'd always like your
best players to play. But that said, if he's not
one hundred percent, you got to use them in a
very limited role until he's better. You know, there's still
three series to go. You know, this is not the
end of the end of the season. This is there's
still three series to go. There's still a lot of
games to play. You don't want him aggravating what he's got.

(28:02):
If he's able to do it, fine, you run him
out there. But you know, he's been sitting for a
while too, and nothing's like the postseason and been his sport.
Everything has turned up. Everything has turned up, and not
the focus has turned up, the scouting's turned up. Everything
has turned up. So he's got to be able to
do that too, just and even just if he feels good,
it doesn't mean that he's completely ready to do it.

(28:25):
I'm not sure how you do it, except if you've
got big leads or you've got big deficits and you
can get him some advts in key spots. But I
think you just have to be wise with your usage standpoint,
and from a are you ready to are you ready
to go right here? Right now? Is to take another week?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, and more likely right Kershaw's going to be available
for this series as well.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, yeah, And he's somebody else that you know, the
other other teams don't have. Is the stuff the same
as when he was winning cell Young's No, not necessarily,
but is the wisdom there? Does he know how to pitch?
Is he want to compete on both sides? Does he? So?
You know who's got that? Nobody's bringing somebody with that
resume or that that history and he had the stuff

(29:10):
is back a little bit from where it was five six,
seven years ago, but talking like I was eleven and two.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Ned he had a hell of a year. I tried
him out there to start a game in this series.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I was surprised he actually retired, But you know what
it was, you know, because he felt great, he felt better.
He said that he felt better than he has in years,
and the success was there, but they had to go
out on top and then perhaps go out with a
third ring.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
You know, you know Mama, Him and Mama had a
lot of conversations. You know that, Ned, Oh, no doubt, Yeah,
you know her.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You know they were both in high school. So yeah,
I mean that's a great, great story, a storybook really
across the board.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
On Ned.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
So if the Dodgers get by the Phillies, we agree,
that's probably going to be the World Series. So we
agree to that. Uh are you concerned about anybody else
that's left?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
You know what? Uh? Again, I think Philly is the
one team that can match them up as better as
well as not not as good as they against the Dodgers,
but they can match him up some. And playing in
Phillies tough. Playing any other places, yeah, it's going to
be loud, but it ain't Philly, and there's you know,
I mean, if the Yankees get in, we saw how
that went last year. You know, Yankees are tough, red

(30:27):
Socks are tough to play in their park. But again,
who's got what they've got the Seattle have what they've got,
you know. See, you know, if you're just a baseball
fanasy and sad'll get Sat get to the World Series.
That'd be great. See them win the World Series. Ough,
that'd be great. They've never been there before. But realistically,
can they sustain this against against this team? I don't
know that anybody else can sustain it. Win a game, sure,

(30:51):
win back to back, fall behind two games zho or
two games to one and come back and have to
beat this team three or four out of the next five.
It didn't happen much this year, but I think that
was all banged up. How was it gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Now? Okay?

Speaker 9 (31:08):
So you know, I agree to I think we all
agree that this is the This is basically the World Series.
But if if the Padres get by the Cubbies today
and and keep going and then they I do believe.
I just I'm not a believer in Milwaukee just yet.
I think it's they haven't been there, and I think

(31:31):
it could be overwhelming. We'll see, but I think, what
do you think if I know, we say in the
Phillies are the challenge, but if the Padres get past
the Cubs, and then they go beat the Brewers. Does
that now turn into another intense series like it's always been.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Oh, it'll be intense, There's no doubt it'll be intense.
But if you just if I'm you know, if I'm
looking at at quality quality, uh, you know, I don't
see it. I mean, Pavetas are their best been their
best guy all year. You know he can give you
a little bit of trouble. Dylan Cees they've handled pretty good,

(32:07):
you know, you know they've got a good bullpen, But again,
do they have the bullpen that's going to stand up
to the end of these games? These games are going
to be different, and we saw it last year. They
had a chance they I think Game four was that
if they won Game four, they're done. They win it,
get to eliminate the Dodgers. Doctors had a bullpen game,

(32:29):
they didn't even have a starting pitcher, and look how
it went. So you know it's I'll say one more thing,
and this is not meant to be directed at anybody
in particular. To win these games, your best players need
to be your best players. And as you look at
other teams, you tell me if the best players turn

(32:51):
out to be the best players, because that's how you win.
No doubt that Otani, one of the best players, is
one of the best players when it comes around October.
And you can go through the history of last year's
playoffs and the little bit of playoffs we've seen this year.
The best players for every team need to be the
best players, and they could be your oll in mind
whether or not the best players on some of the

(33:13):
other teams we're talking about are truly the best players
when it comes when the lights get the hottest this
time of year. Yeah, I don't see it. I don't
see it most of the time. It doesn't worry me.
Your best got to be your best, no way around it.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
All right, Well, you're the best, NET and we appreciate
you coming on. Thanks for the insights all night.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, hopefully we'll talk next week and we'll keep going.
Love it.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Thanks guys, all right, our thanks to NET for jumping
on baseball games. Now on the top of the six
the Tigers lead the Indians two to one. All right,
when we come back, we'll talk about the gardens. Oh
my god, I'm sorry, Ronnie.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yes, Throwback Thursday is here. Many thanks to our man
ned Klette. It always feels good when you talk to
Ned Kletty really does right. Yeah, he just puts you
at ease. He just he knows the game. But he's
not condescending talking about knowing the game. He talks to
you in a way that you can understand.

Speaker 9 (34:22):
It's just for a guy that's done it and has
been in it as long as he he had. Because
I know some guys that have been in it like
long as Ned, they just look at you sideways if
you ask any kind of.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Question, any question, you know what, I mean, what the
hell are you doing? You don't know what you're even
talking about. You don't have it, You've never been around.
What are you doing? What do you know?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's why Ned's a great teacher, because he's an educator. Yeah, yeah,
he really, He educates us every time he comes on.
Kevin Demoff, our buddy that runs the Rams, I saw
a tweety sent out.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
What do you say?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
He said, Look, Dodger fans, if you still got that
blue on, just drive on down to sol By tonight
for the Rams and forty nine Ers game. Hey, you
still want to go to a game tonight? We got
a game for you right down. We got the Rams
and the forty nine ers. I thought that was great,
just a great tweety set out.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
It's been, uh, it's been pretty good, I think since.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know the new ownership.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
And I don't even give it to the Charges, not
so much, but they're there. But the ownership of the Rams,
the ownership of the Dodgers, the ownership of the Lakers
have always been that way. But how USC's that way
as well. If you check USC boards and you know
their athletic department, websites and social.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Media, they all support each other. They all support each other.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
The Dodgers are in the playoffs and you see the
Rams tweet out, hey go get them or go get
them Dodgers go, good luck, good luck whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And I remember when the.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Who was it? It was, yeah, it was the Lakers.
It was the Lakers who won in the in the
pandemic year right, and they sent out after right after
they won, they sent out a big tweet and Instagram
and all that we got ours, now go get George Rams,
go get them, and it was it was it was
kind of cool to see. It's kind of cool to see.

(36:18):
So yeah, yeah, doctor fans keep that blue on and
go out to see the Rams tonight.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I do want to say this. I think one team
did make a mistake though, in this market when they
were trumpeting or saluting or wishing another team. Well, do
you remember, do you remember what that team was? Because
I remember and it happened last year.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh it did wait wait wait wait.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And we were together. Oh no, it happened Opening Day.
I think it was Opening Day. We were together and
we were on remote.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Oh was the Angels? Was it Angels?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Wasn't it the Clippers wishing the Padres good day?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, yes, that's right. God, that's right. Yeah, the Clippers
which the Padres good luck? Like no, no, no, no, yeah,
they did do that. They got killed for it. Yeah,
and I think you're right. The Angel did one too.
I can't remember what it was, but it's like, oh,

(37:18):
come on, guys, you gotta know better than that. Yeah,
you just gotta know you can't do that.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
And you feel it, right fans, And I mean Chargers
are getting better, and I think they're really getting more
in tune. I think, you know, Harbor been here obviously
is a big boost, and and uh, you know, Herbert
be in the face and all that is a big boost.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
The getting better.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
But yeah, it's just when things happen around town, you
feel the Rams. You you feel the Dodgers, right, you
feel the Lakers as embracing whatever situated, whether it be
you know, sports, whether it be social or political, whatever,
you feel the Rams and you feel the Dodgers, and

(38:01):
you feel the Lakers, no question, so much.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
That's so much the Angels.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
No, And we had that conversation when those that the
tragedy happened in Thousand Oaks and then you know the fires, and.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
It's it's like the.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
US, you kind of wait and see who's gonna be
the first one to Really I'm not saying that they
didn't respond, because they all did, but I'm just saying
what you felt.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I mean, the Rams didn't miss a beat because the
Rams get it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because Kevin Demoff is from here, besides me, one of
the smartest guy in all the skis, in all sports period,
I'm period the end anywhere, he gets it. He understands
how the area works. That's why they've been so successful
as quickly as they have. I mean, you know, I
don't know if he's listening or not, but he knows
I'm telling the truth. He knows how to do this,

(38:47):
and he certainly knows how to do it here. Dodgers
know how to do it here. Lakers get it out.
And I'm gonna say this, I think the Clippers are
in the community now, and you know, everybody would take
shots at the charge. I have to tell you, I
think they've made more of an impact here, yeah, than
people thought they would. I'm being honest.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
Yeah, you know, we were questioning that they were, you know,
whether they made the right move. Obviously financially they did.
But how do you come into the market. You know,
people talk about changing their name and doing different things,
and how they you know, how do you you know,
we compared them to LAFC coming into a market. Remember,

(39:29):
and LAFC has just wrote the book on how to
come into a mark now their textbook. Yeah, Rams did
it as well, and so the Chargers took a minute.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
But I think they're getting there. I think they're on
the right track. Yeah, I do too. All right, So
tonight we've got the Rams and the forty nine ers.
Here's the thing going into the season. I don't think
anybody questioned the fact that the Rams had the better roster,
but I do think people felt the forty nine Ers
had the easier schedule, so the forty nine Ers would
win division over the Rams. I don't think that's the

(40:01):
case now, aside from that hiccup the Rams had, they're
a better team. I don't think brock Perty's playing tonight.
If Stafford's on the Rams win.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Now. He's not been crisp.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
He threw over three hundred yards in the last game,
but still he missed some guys that were open. Rodney,
he hadn't been super crisp. But this is a division game,
so it counts to I like the Rams in this
game tonight.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 9 (40:31):
And the strength of you know, obviously the forty nine
Ers has been I mean has been their defense over
this run that they've had. Their defense has been fantastic.
But now they're without Nick Bosa, right, They're a little
banged up, and as you mentioned, Party's kind of been
in and out of the lineup.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I do.

Speaker 9 (40:51):
I do absolutely like the Rams because now people are
seeing what the Rams defense can do. I think the
the Philadelphia game was a little bit of an outlier
because they dominated Philly for basically two and a half
quarters and then you know, kind of let them off
the hook a little bit. Yeah, but the Rams have

(41:11):
a very good defense I think can match the forty
nine ers. It's and then yeah, you compare the weapons
on the offensive side, and it's no question.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
The Rams are the better team and the better roster.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
All right, did you we didn't talk about it yesterday
because we're at the stadium and I just want to
know a little bit. When we come back, you want
to talk about this WNBA nightmare? Yeah, I mean we
didn't get to it yesterday and I'm sitting here and
I'm still reading stuff about it. Let's hit that when
we come back. Also, more of the Dodgers getting ready
now for the Division series against the Phillies. And at

(41:46):
some point next ho where the Salt Ta is going
to join us and talk some NBA. Yeah, this WNBA
thing is wild. They're gonna have a mutiny on their hands.
You talk about sticking your foot in your mouth. The
commissioner may have committed the greatest crime in the history
of the WNBA.

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