October 21, 2025 • 40 mins
As Eric Dickerson joins us we discuss franchises that re-invest their money into the product on the field/court etc. Also, Russell Westbrook refused to sign a Laker jersey for kid (but he did sign another item for him instead) - is that justifiable?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, we continue on Red Ruggan Rodney Pete E d
Eric Dickerson jumps on with us on this Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Eric, how are you today? Good? Fred? How you doing that?
What's what's going on? What's that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man, I'm just fighting a cold. Man, I've been traveling
so much. It's the worst.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You get it on the plane, No, they got.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I got in the hotel, you know, because I had
the air conditioned on and I can't sleep with the
A C on the room, and and man it got me.
I mean I have real bad allergies and it's just
I'm just a mess. I can't sleep sleep and sitting
up matter of fact in the hotel that the next
night I have to sleep sit up in a chair.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I couldn't even sleep in the bed.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So get so congested right right and choking. I feel
like I'm choking. It's the worst, man, That's what I
getting old and getting sick is.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know a basically do you sleep like a horse?
I mean horse is sleeping standing up, so you were
just sitting up, so you're like a horse.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well it does a horse sleep in a chair? For
it does a horse sleep in a chair? Shot? But
a horse stands up. Do you tell me a horse
sleep up in a chair?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, miniature? Yeah, okay, baby horse, yeah, baby baby pony.
That was That was me. How you guys doing, man
doing well?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Eric?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I just want to say this, and maybe maybe what
you're going through is a cautionary tale for everybody in
Los Angeles. This could be a very bad cold and
flu season. I would like to point that out. I
read that the other day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's all I got, Eric, I'm just saying, and what
you're going through as an example of that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Okay, don't they say that every year, come get your
blue shot.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'll never get Oh it's gonna be the worst. Oh
my god. Just now this one here, this is the one.
I'm telling you. What if you don't take flu shots?
Never had one in my life. For it, Rottney, you
take them. I do not, never had had one.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm afraid of my first I'm afraid of needles for it,
like big time, Like, uh, can't watch them on TV.
Take when somebody take blood or to get a shot.
I was just when I have to when I play
in the NFL, take my blood. I had to lay
down and somebody had to hold my hand. I mean,
it's crazy. I just cannot really shot. Oh, it was bad,
really bad.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Don't you remember at iHeart they used to give away
free flu shot trotteney Do you remember this?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't because I never took them and I never
paid attention to it because I was never gonna get
them anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, and here's the difference between the two of you
and me. I look at it like, if it's free,
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Well, you know, if it's free, Hey, we're giving out
some free Scian.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's free. It's from me. If it's three, I'll take three,
I'll take three. Prase, Uh, he's free COVID.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can get COVID if you take these uh these
drop a droplets and uh and these pills Fred We're
gonna we're gonna give those away too, because if you
get COVID then you won't get it again.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So just get it. We're gonna give you two turkeys too,
all right. Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm not saying it was the best philosophy. Okay, I'm
not saying.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
That these turkey has been spoiled for three months, but
we're gonna give them away.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Go ahead to get tried to take them.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Try to you're trying in turkeys, but trying to cut it.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
January twentieth, we're giving away these things, giving turkeys.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Fred, come on to cut the bad part off. See
this look a little dark. Go cut this part off.
That discoloration of the right. We'll cut that.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Let's cut that off and you'll be all right. You're
not talking about are you talking about? They were already
cooked or they were frozen.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They don't make a difference for it. No, they're already cooked. Yeah,
they cook turkeys. Well, no, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But if you give me a frozen turkey that you
bought in November in January, I could still cook it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I could have refrozen the turkey, Paul, You know,
I could have refrozen the take turkey could have been
refrozen and gave it to you and you'd be like,
be happy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You'll be so happy we didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Cut the turkey in half and cook it and then
froze the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
There you go back in there. I feel Afred. You
got that? Fred? What are you talking about? I'm just
saying take anything I need. Question?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Hey, I got a question for you guys to ask
you this, you can answer this question. So I was
reading something and somebody asked me this question.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I didn't know. I didn't know the answer.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So I started talking about the tickets possibly going for
four thousand dollars a ticket that the baseball ticket in Toronto,
right right, in Toronto, right right. So I want to
know who gets So how does it split the money?
Does the Major League Baseball get some of the money.
I know the players gets the money, and then each team,
each team on the I know all the players.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Does the team get money too? And maybe Baseball gets money.
That's the way it's rep share.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But that four thousand dollars, Eric, that doesn't go that
doesn't go to the players, the team.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, it doesn't go to anybody. You know what it
goes to. You know what those tickets are the person
sold them.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If you bought one of the whole tel rooms overlooking
the stadium, if you stay at the hotel, those tickets,
the hotel probably bought those tickets for what five hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, Rodnie, you can see it through the window.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
No, no, no, I'm saying the hotel had a deal
with Toronto. If you get to the World Series, then
we get so many World Series tickets for five hundred
bucks apiece, and then they can turn around and sell
them to anybody that wants a hotel room for four thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, but I'm saying, yes, you could do that, or
you can check into those hotels hotel rooms, open your curtains,
and watch the.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Game for four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right, but I'm saying you don't have to go to
the stadium.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What kind of hotel is four thousand dollars? You're in
the hotel, Yeah, it's four thousand dollars for the room.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, yeah, the wait wait wait wait wait, that's not
the ticket, that's the whole that's the hotel room.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Get a hotel room, and you get to watch the
game from your hotel room. Because in Toronto there's a
hotel connected to the stadium, right, so in the outfield
you can watch the game. There's so many rooms that
they have that overlook the stadium. You can watch the
game from your hotel room on the balcony.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah. Don't they have that in Atlanta too, or something
like that, one of those in Atlanta. It's near the stadium. Okay,
it's near the stadium. I know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's as close as something supposed to stay. It's what
about Saint Louis? Is it one there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't think there's an hotel there that you can
do that. Rickleyfield you can look from across the street.
Oh yeah, can I please spend forth anothers.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, it's like for baseball, you would think that there
would be more as the newer stadiums are built, that
they would build more like the Toronto Stadium where they
would have a hotel component to it, because you could
you could overcharge for those rooms that during the baseball game. Uh,
these are fifteen hundred dollars rooms as opposed to you know,
other days it's like a two hundred and fifty dollars room,
(06:47):
rightfle dollars, we just got a regular room. Anybody would
pay for that. Can you imagine the demand for those
rooms that are overlooking the World Series games in Toronto?
For these first two games, I'm sure those things sold
out in two seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
For four thousand dollars. You think they sold that quick?
Oh yeah they did? Did?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I guess you're right, basto. There're money in Toronto, and
and then you've got Dodger fans coming there too, So yeah,
those things I'm sure it's sold really quick.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Toronto is a beautiful city. It really is. It's a
great city. It is. It's a beautiful city. Yeah, I
love I love Canada. A lot of pretty girls are
too boys, inn Where what you think for Toronto? Not
in the hotel? Notel? How do you know they're pretty bad?
All right? Eric? How do you know they are pretty
(07:39):
girls in Toronto? A lot of pretty girls? Several times, Fred,
I've been in Toronto several times. How you have? Yeah,
several times. I like to run. I've been there, haven't
been in years, but it is. It's some beauty. And
you know, they're really the Canadian people are really nice people.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
They really are nice people. I mean it's a it's
a different flavoring in Canada.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's no question about it. I think Canada. I think
Canada has the best national anthem. I think so yeah, absolutely,
can you play it? How do I do you know
what the national anthem is? What is it? Kevin will
find it? Oh camp, can you find a Cavin? Can
you Kevin find a Cavi?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Look at the Canadian national anthem. Ok, Yeah, it's great.
I love the Canadian national anthem.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's close to the how about from Detroit, that's close
to them, very close.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
You go right across the uh, there's a there's a
city called Windsor, that's right. That's it directly across the
river from the downtown Detroit. So if you're in downtown,
it takes five minutes to get the Canada. Yeah, and
you either take the tunnel or the bridge. Yeah, and
you go right over there. You go right over there,
and then Toronto's like a forty five minute flight from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, let's hear some of let's hear some of it.
And all right, here's a little bit of here's all Canada.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Read for bathing, realize, way to stand And.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm like, oh, can jump?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
We stand on the job stand God goes, don't wait then,
(09:56):
j just jump.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
What do you think, Eric? I like it. It's kind
of nice. It ain't bad. It ain't bad. It's not
like the national anthem, but it's not bad. And it's
quiet all it's it's quick. You know what I mean too? Yeah?
You like me. I like quickness too. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The funny thing about our national anthem to is that
when they played the national anthem, I rock back and
forth because you know, you play football, you just down
the sidelines, and I still do it. I cannot It's
almost I can't stop. It's a habit. I've been on
the side. I was just rock back and forth and
it's still right now. When they played it out some place,
I'm like, I see I'm rocking back and forth, like
(10:37):
I'm getting ready to play football.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you were on the sideline and they were playing
the anthem to both of you and you're rocking back
and forth, what's running through your mind during the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Erica done rotting.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm finding to get the hell knocked out of me.
I got try to get I got I gotta try
to get my mind right. I try to get my
mind right.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Simiously, I'm thinking, I mean, because when you play, when
you play football, you play running back, you don't get hit.
I mean, ain't no doubt. So you have to you
really have to get in a mindset that okay, it's
gonna get physical, and I gotta get ready for these
first couple of hits.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And sometimes that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
First she'd be like, whoa, whoa, are you ready for that?
And then sometimes you might have a big run, you know,
but you have to. I just I was a good
end in my mind. Right, Well, what about you, Rodney?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Uh? I always prayed during the national anthem, and Eric's right.
You just you standing there and you always have your
spot where you stand because everybody had to get up
and stand like on the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You find your spot.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
It was always interesting because every team I played with
six different ones, but there was always I don't know
if it's a superstition or not, but there was always
one or two guys that I always stood next to.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
During the national anthem.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
But I usually prayed, had a prayer that I would
say during the national anthem and close my eyes and
but but also be rocking back and forth, you know,
rock swaying, swaying to the music, and then i'm I'm
I'm praying, and whether it be the Lord's prayer or
whatever prayer that I have for that day, I would
(12:12):
pray during the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh Lord, I played for the Detroit Lions. Lord, please
don't let me get knocked out. Lord Jesus, Jesus, protect
me because I know we're terrible. Lord, you don't have
a chance. You don't Heaven.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Father Rookie left capitle today we haven't won a game yet.
Laura Leed Richard did go off to on me today?
Please that's it? Yeah, I definitely prayer four.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Speaker 2 (12:48):
When we come back?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Is it call to play for a team that reinvests?
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
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Speaker 2 (13:21):
Let's go, come on, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
All right, guys, listen, we talk about the Dodgers reinvesting.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Freddy, what did you do during the national anthem? You
asked us, what are you doing there?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I just stand there with my hand over my heart.
You cry? No?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, listen, we talk about the Dodgers reinvesting in
their franchise and how people are complaining. I'm wondering what
it was like for you guys. You guys, talk about
this for a second. Rodney, you played for the Lions,
Eric with the Rams, what's it like to be on
a team that reinvests.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Eric start with you.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, with the Rams, man, we were the cheapest team
in the NFL, So wasn't no investment. I mean, it
wasn't like that, you know, from what I understand, And
like I said, I wasn't in the front office. But
you know, Georgie was spending money really fast, and you
know they were trying to move money around. I told
you before that when I got to Indianapolis, we I'm
(14:16):
sorry to go back, going out to Rams. We got
two checks. We get a check from like say, Bank
of American, went from City Bank, and I thought that
was normal. So when I got to the Colts, you know,
we got one check.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Wait wait, wait, you gotta you gotta check from City
Bank and from the Rams.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You gotta say, say you got to you gotta check
from City Bank and let's say bank them in two
different banks. That's how they paid us. It was it
was two checks. It wasn't one check. So they were
bouncing around money. From what I understand later, you know,
they were moving money around when.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
They had probably had like a line of credit at
City Bank. The City Bank paid half of y'all salaries and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
The yeah, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So when I got to the Coats, I'll never forget
I went, you know, you know, I got my check
and it was a bigger check in. So I'm like,
so where we get the other check at? They said whatever,
check Like we got two checks and now we don't
want check here.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know. So it was different. I mean that team,
you know, they they they didn't be investing in the Rams.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I got to say, you know, we had we had
some great teams, man, I thought, and sometimes one or
two players away, but they didn't have the money, just
didn't want to invest in.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
John Shaw he always said that football players are like horses.
You open the gate, they'll run, you know. That was
that was that was his motto. Show it was a
different areas.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He said that as a quote. He said that, Yeah,
it was. Somebody told me said that, you know, and
I know, knowing John, like horses, they open the gate
and they run.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's how John Shaw was John when John was big
on he loved horse racing. So that's where he was
similar players to horses. You know, and think about it, Rodney,
when you put us on the field, no matter how
mad you are at the orders, because it was times
I was pissed off at them, but you're still gonna play.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And that's true. So it's like a horse when you
open the gate, they're gonna take off, run and that's
that's just just what we did. Yeah, coach. On the
other hand, you know, they just well that was just
a bad organization. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He had the money, but it was a bad It
was a bad organization. The racism was out of control.
It was just bad there.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
God, I keep telling people and I told you, man,
I want to go to Risk and so bad. I
wish I could have played for the Washington Riskins back
in those days.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know, like to John told me.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He told me later, you know, he admitted he said,
if we wanted to send you somewhere where you'd be forgotten,
we could punish you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They were trying to punish me. But speaking out.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Because back then there were a handful of teams that
were doing it right. I mean, you teams are teams
are forced to do it right. They're forced to pay
the players, and you know, you've got you know, better organization,
and the Union is still the Union, but still their
salary caps and there's things that they have, they generated
where you got to pay the players.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
You can't just hold out and be a team that
you know, collects all the money and not pay the players.
But you know, back then, they could, they could, They
could strong arm the players and say we're not gonna
pay you this, We're not gonna pay that, We're not
gonna do it. And there wasn't the off the field
money that there is today.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It was no off the field money, very very little
off the field money. I mean, think about it, man,
When I came to the league, minimum wages thirty thousand dollars.
A lot of guys had had had like they had
set sold cars, then another job. You know, you came
about thirty thousand dollars a year, you know, you know,
especially not in Los Angeles, you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
How many NFL teams did reinvest guys? How many NFL
teams did it right? I would say about five? Maybe
five did that right? Well? Maybe maybe when you came in, right,
what did you come in Rodney eighty nine? I came in, Yeah,
you can't, I'm gonna tell you. In my era, I
would say maybe two or three forty nine is for sure.
The Redskins.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Eddie de Barlowe got it from day one. He got
everybody went to play for him. Everybody I want to
play for him. I mean, I mean, I'm like, man,
Michael is young to be a Niner. And the Redskins
did it right. The Redskins would do it right. The
Cowboys could kind of doing it right. You know, they
hit that, you know, they let's stay with the Cowboy
They were They weren't great about it, but they were,
you know, doing some things that were right by the players,
(18:08):
some things. But it was I'm gonna say it was
only those two teams, and I can't when I was
in the league for it. It was just two that
was it, And I think about it.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, and all those owners, you know, like they accused them,
you know now of but but all of them got
together and said we're going to do it this way
till one of y'all. You can't jump outside the lines
and start paying guys more because then we all got
to do it. So you talk about collusion, there was
definitely collusion going on back then where they had meetings
(18:38):
where hey, we're not gonna pay anybody more than this,
We're not going to you know, do any kind of
special favors or anything like that, because we got to
keep our our money the way it is. But then
times obviously change. But yeah, you know, air goes from
two to three. Probably when I got in there in
eighty nine ninety it was you know, maybe five tall
(19:00):
total teams that really were about the organization and we're
going to build it the way we want to build
it and not really worry about, you know, all the
other owners in the NFL and what they may say,
because we're paying our payers extra or we're giving them
extra money and extra you know, off season opportunities.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And that was the thing about Eddie de Barlow. He
wanted everybody to get paid.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
He wanted everybody to be help you know, happy and
successful and you know, and and in the off season
he was instrumental to hit guys, you know, car deals
or whatever it may be out you know, outside of
their contracts, as opposed to a lot of teams were
we're not really engaging in a lot of that. And
(19:44):
I distinctly remembered in Detroit, you know, every you know,
every three or four years, well I was there for five,
but you know, we'd have a good year and instead
of saying, we got to re sign this guy because
he was a fourth for us. He was a great
linebacker and he should get paid. And his contract was
(20:04):
up and they didn't pay him, and they let him
the receiver let him go. And then I get to
Dallas and they go, you know, we just went to
the Super Bowl. We got to go sign Charles Haley
because we want to win multiple Super Bowls, you know.
And so it was a different mentality of those teams
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as opposed to other teams. Most of the teams in
the league were not going to reinvest back into the
franchise because it was all about the bottom line. From answer,
the Jets are off to an O and seven start,
all right, Now, neither one of you have been out
of the team that started that poorly?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right, Oh yeah, what I am? You have the coat.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I think we started off we were one in eight
in Detroit at one point I think we were. I
mean we turned it around and became I think we
were seven and nine at the end of the season,
but we had at one point we're one in eight
in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
All right, At what point do guys do you think
mentally it gets tougher for him? They kind of check
out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Can can you hear me? Yeah? We got okay, yeah, yeah?
What did you say? Fred? I'm sorry to hear what
you said. What was your question? At what point does
it get tough mentally for you?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
If you start out winless like that or one win
and you know, eight losses, when do you check out?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Do?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Guys? Oh? Fred?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I can tell you on that we were at the
coat I went. I was gonna say, we went one
in fifteen. Think about that, you would I would even
want to?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I would. I don't even I didn't play in the game.
They won one in fifteen.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
When you're like oh and four or oh and three,
you pretty much checked out because you know you're not
going to because you can look at your team until
we're no good.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, we don't have the players, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I just asked, uh, one of my old offices, Line
baldeam our Son at the Raiders game, and I asked
him about one of the players. I won't say his name,
and yeah, Brian Balding Man Like, yeah, Baldy was not
the biggest guy, but Baldy would give he would give
you all he had. That's what I liked about Baldy.
He would he would fight. I mean he would give
(22:06):
you all he had. And it was another offensive line
we had. He was big, he was about six po seven.
He was this He was a scary cat. He was
just scared.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Man. It was just he told me a story. He
said that they played the Eagles. I think I was gone.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We played the Eagles, he say, And Reggie White told
this offensive line s his name Kevin you know, Kevin
Carll was his name, Kevin Carl. He says, Hey, I'm
gonna see you after the game. I want to eat
you after the game, he said, Eric, from the time
he said that to him, every time we come in
the side, he said, man, what do.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You think he meant by that? You know, what do
you think he gonna fight me? What do you think
he meant by that? You know, what do you think
he meant? He said? He said that every almost every series.
What do you think he meant? And what he meant was?
They said?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
After the game? He said, finally, I told him that
in the game, he's probably going to pray for you.
And that's exactly what he did. He wanted to pray
for him. That's what you know, because he was you
know certain guys, man Fred, It's just this is scared.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm telling you every player bad, that players in the
NFL should not be played in the NFL. I'm just
telling you that, right, Man. I played on use with
some teams and guys were just cowards. I mean, they
didn't care. And that makes it hard when you and
five and six and win one game. Man, you just think,
I can't wait to pack my step up to get
the hell out of here. You know, put off season.
You know, I don't want to get hurt. I don't
want to have to come back and get treat me.
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So that's that's how that's that's your mentality.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What do you mean there were cowards. They were scared
to play. They were scared.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
They were scared of the other, scared of the opposing team,
afraid of them. We played and we played the Giants
on the Monday. On the Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
At Thursday night, I was with the coach and.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
One of the guys he gets I get into an
argument with one of the defensive linemen and this same
guy says me, Eric, come on.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Man, you're gonna piss them off. Man, I said, you
mean pissed them? I said, they already made you already mad.
I'm gonna piss them off.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean, you'll be surprised how many guys just afraid
afraid of the guy that's lining up against them, across
from them.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Afraid of But they got to play. They got they
gotta act like they're playing them not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Aren't the coaches aware of this when they put the.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Guy in the team fit again? Fred? He said, the
coaches aware.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Aren't they aware that they've got a guy out there
they're gonna be afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, but if you ain't got nobody else, what you
gonna do? I mean, you have no other you know,
the backup is worse than the starter and the third team.
Oh my god, he shouldn't even be in the league.
He's you know, he shouldn't even be here. So you
got to play the guy. You got to hope and
hopefully that some kind of way that he musters up
some courage like they like to us a line and
wizard of bous.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The scared lion, the cowards, the coward, the cowardly lion.
He's a lion. He's a lion like this guy here.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
He was a big guy. This guy was six foot
seven three, hundred pounds and just a coward man just scared.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, I mean, and you know it was You can't
you can't hide in professional sports.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You can't hide.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
In the NFL or even basketball or baseball, you can't hide.
And in college there are teams that are so much
better than other teams that things get overlooked. And if
you're playing for Michigan, you know, back in the day,
Ohio State or sc or you know, even with Eric's
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team at SMU, you got guys up and down that
offensive line that had you know, two rushers, you know,
like like like the Pony Express running all over people.
They think everybody on that offensive line is big time.
And same thing with you know, you got a Michigan
team that goes to the Rose Bowl and you think
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that all of them are tough and all of them
are great. Where that guard that got all the pubs
for that Michigan line might be the weakest link of
that offensive line. But he he got he got carried
because Michigan out ran and out rushed everybody in the
country and he happened to be the senior that everybody
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focused on. Well, when you get to the league and
there's so many one on one matchups and you got
to deal with guys one on one and you don't
have the help of that tackle next to you. Or
you're a running back that doesn't you know, have a
gaping hole for you to run through and you don't
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get touched for seven yards when you every time you
touch the ball in college. That ain't gonna be the
case in the NFL. Or you're a receiver that never
gets hit and you're running wide open every single play
in college, that ain't gonna be the case in the NFL.
And and guys get exposed when they when they have
to really be good, because everybody is good. I don't
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care how many teams are out there that that don't win.
They're they're good players on every single team. And so
you're gonna get expos if you're not good enough, or
you don't have courage, or you don't have heart. And
that happens on a regular basis from guys that come
from big time schools that they're you know, dominant in college,
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but yet they get to the NFL and go, well,
weren't you like the All American right tackle and you
did all these things. Yeah, but we were so much
better than everybody else that it didn't really matter. I
stood out. But they get to the NFL and it's
like he's got that good Yep, I was the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Was a guy that they drafted, the guy, steroid guy,
the Coast Draft of green that was the name, the
Coast Draft of the Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I can't think he was a big.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He got drafted before Barry Sanders, right the Green Bay. Yeah,
went to Green Bay, Michigan state guy.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Total total bust, total bust. So Bridey is right, Fred
right here. That's the example he gives you. You got
these guys that they think that because they're in college
and sometime they play against guys is not as good.
But when you put up against some real some real talent,
a guy that's across from there, and it's not afraid
of them, it's like, oh, you know, that's just talking
that noise like hey man, I'm gonna get you, you know,
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and they playing like he's like oh man, oh my god,
what is he talking about that. That's a that's a
different mindset, you know, that's a totally different mindset. Like
I told you, Ricky Jackson, I'm gonna get he told me.
We played against the Saints, and then they were hitting,
I mean really hit you like then. And he told me,
he said, Eric, he said, man, we thought we're gonna
break you. He said, you ran high and purity. We're
gon we're gonna break you, he said. He said, we
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came back to the huddle. He said, man, like he
running harder now. I said, because Ricky, I'm from the country.
I mean, I'm I got I got a totally different,
total different mentality, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And that's what it is. That's the mentality that that
each player had.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Baseball, basketball, football, like Kobe's and Kobe Bryant's mentality, the
mentality had the mama mentality, I mean, Michael joined them.
The mentality that you have to get Otani the mentality
that he has when he walks into the play. It
might not be going well all the time, but like
we talked a couple of weeks ago, I said, sooner
or later, I said, he's gonna heat up, and he did.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
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Speaker 1 (29:14):
The NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. Guys, is a
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Speaker 2 (29:26):
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Speaker 2 (30:00):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, let's do this Rodney. So here's the question.
Did you guys hear the story about Russell Westbrook. Uh,
he walked off the court and there are some kids
standing there holding jerseys and they're asking him to sign
the jerseys if he'd be so kind. So you know,
it's like him playing in Houston, Okay see, and then
kids had Laker jerseys. So he signed the jerseys of
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like Houston and Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Scene. When he got to the.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Laker jerseys, he didn't sign them. Now, to be fair,
I believe he did sign something else for them, but
he wouldn't sign those jerseys. And he wouldn't sign the
Laker jerseys because obviously he didn't have a very good
experience with the Lakers. So that being said, and you
both have signed autographs in your life, is it Petty
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did not sign an autograph a kid has because you
didn't like your experience.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
With the franchise, Petty, No, No, And there's there's times
in your life. First of all, people are human, and
I know people like the believe that that athletes are
not human and don't have feelings and should just do
whatever they tell him to do and shut up and
dribble or shut up and throw and shut up and
pitch and whatever. But no, no, there are there are
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things that affect you. And if you have a bad
experience at a certain place, a real bad experience, it's
got an ugly taste in your mouth. And if a
fan or if it's you know, a kid representing you know,
a collector or somebody's going to sell it at a
show then, which happens all the time by the way,
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that these collectors and these autograph hounds and these guys
that do shows send kids to go get as many
autographs as possible, So that's another factor into it. But no,
it's not petty, especially if he signed something else for
the kid. Now, if he didn't sign anything else for
the kid, and you know, was mad at the kid,
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and probably the kid didn't know the history or you know,
his feelings towards the Lakers, and Russell decided to take
it out on the kid and not sign anything else.
That's a different story. But apparently he signed some other
things for the kid. So absolutely not petty.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know, I didn't have.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
You know, great relationships, you know, when I left the Lions,
but now I do. It's kind of been wrinkindled. But
I get it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Some guys have bad experiences at certain places and don't
want to be associated with that, and I and I
get the idea that listen, I'll sign whatever for you,
but I'm not gonna sign a jersey from a particular
team that hated me and I hated them, and I'm
not gonna give him that satisfaction. I don't care if
it's a kid or not. But the fact that he
did sign something else, I thought that was good. So
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I have no problem with him. What do you think, Eric,
we're having some trouble with Eric's audio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
What do you think, Fred, what do you think? Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know what, Rodney, he didn't sign it because he
didn't have a great experience with the Lakers. That's why
he didn't sign those jerseys. He did sign something else,
And I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That another word.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, I'm going to hook you up. I just didn't
enjoy my time there. I'd never heard that before that.
You know, I wasn't really happy there. I'm not gonna
ever heard that before. Not because I wasn't happy there
that I've not heard heard.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Of a guy or anybody not signing something for a
particular team that they weren't happy with.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You've never heard that before. No, I really haven't. But
who asked me to sign anything? I don't know. I'm
talking about in general.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
You've never heard that a player or an athlete his
experience at a particular organization was not cool, so he
refused to sign something.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You've never heard that before. No, not a jersey. I've
not heard that. Honestly, you need to get out a
little bit more. Yeah, I mean I agree with riding
in with that. I mean, he did sign something for
the kid. You know what would buzz me more than
his volume up? I can't. It's up there you go.
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Can you hear me? I saw this is this thing.
I agree with riding it with that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, when you play for certain teams that you
have a bad experience, I can as say I had
a bad experience in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I mean really I did. I mean, but I do.
So I will sign the coach jersey. I'll signed the
coach helmet.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Now. I've had people ask me what I put in
one on five and I said, no, I'm not gonna
do that because I didn't have to. I did not
have undred yards at Indianapolis. I had in LA So
I refused to do that part of it. I'll signed
pretty much anything, you know, And and you know, Ridingey
is right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
When you have a bad experience, you know, sometimes they
want you to just get over it, and you can't.
I sign an interview with Reggie Jackson. He was on
the panel with with some other baseball players after I
don't know what game it was, and they asked him
about all it was great to be back here, and
Reggie just told the truth, No, it was not great
to be back here.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It was a lot of racism going on. And I
mean and they don't expect that. They don't expect that
kind of stuff. And so by signing an autograph, I
signed pretty much anything that you put in front of me.
I mean, I don't mind it. I mean it's I
didn't have a great expense with the Raiders, but I'll
still sign it. I mean, and I liked I liked
the Raider organization. I think they do great with the players.
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I think they do a great job but bring the
players back. And even when the Rams, and I was
the Rams, I mean, I was pissed when I left there,
pissed off. I was mad as hell at them for
with the way they did me. But I was still signed,
especially for kids, Prad I mean to Rodney too, you know,
and it's for a kid. And Roddy's right about one thing.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You have.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
These guys, they'll send three and four things over. You know,
it's going back and forth because when they come up.
When I was at I just did a show it
in Virginia and some guys caught me at the airport.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm like, man, come on, man, that's what you went
to the airport so early? He said, we just wanted
to catch it for you before you left. I said,
I'm gonna tell you something. I said, I will sign
one idol for each one of y'all. I said, I say,
you got two helmets. Said, I'm not that big a
fan of my damn self. I'm not signing them two helmets.
So I'll sign one helmet and then that's it. So
but yeah, I get it Rodney saying, I mean, you
have a bad experience. You just it's just a bad experience,
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it is, and you just cannot let it go.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sometimes I get that. No, I just know it's interesting.
He did sign, which is nice. He's not something, right,
He's not something the kid right, he's signed something for sure,
you take it out on the kid.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
I'm not gonna trying the Laker the Laker jersey because
that's not That's not who I represent or I want
to be represented by. If you give me okay See
or Houston or wherever else I played, then I'll sign that.
But that was not something that I want to put
my name on.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And I'm a go everybody. I'm okay with that. I'm
gonna tell you what I can't stand, Fred.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I can't stand when these athletes are actors or Whoever,
when a kid comes up and asks for an autograph
and it's so rude to him, it's just it pisses
they're rude to them. They're rude to the kid. Rule
like like that get away maget. I'm not signing that
to get away from me. You know. Oh man, that
is a real problem for me. I mean, I don't
say nothing, but I'm like, man, that's that's wrong. I
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just feel like I said, because one day I was
this what I this way? I look at autographs. I said, look,
I haven't played football but forty years or whatever, and
people come ask me for my autograph. I think it's
an honor, I said, because I say, I've always said this.
One day you ask gonna get old and ain't nobody
gonna know who the hell you are? And you're gonna
wish that somebody would come up and say, well, you
signed my autograph. When they and they look at everybody
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else around you, and you're like, in your mind, you
may say, man, I was a great player too, what
about me? But nobody wants you or because you weren't asked,
or because you know you're just old now and we
don't know who you are. That happens to all of us.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, and sometimes, you know, the problem is nowadays it's
such there's such a profitability with autographs and these shows
that oftentimes you don't know comes from.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And Eric's right.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
You come out of a hotel if it's an event
that they you know, and through social media, through publicity,
through marketing, whatever it is, oftentimes these these guys know
where you're staying, they know when the event is happening,
they know you're in town for a particular thing, and
they will come up either them, and I appreciate when
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they come up. But when they send kids with a book,
you know, and they got a book of of of
you know, trading cards, and it's not just one. They
got a book of fifteen trading cards that they want
you to sign, it becomes this is this is not
just getting an autograph. This is this is for marketing
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or for for you to make some money off of.
And that's when it becomes a problem, not only for them,
and and and Eric's right, you know, I will often
do that too. I'll sign one of these which one
you want me to sign? I'll sign one, you know,
But I'm not signing twenty different pictures and twenty different
cards you know that you have in a booklet that
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you're sitting outside of a hotel just to get autographed
so you can go trade them in at a show
or sell them on eBay or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Maybe I'll tell you one thing is I got to
give women credits, you know, and bright that this having
happened to you somewhere and a woman comes over and
she says, are you riding Peter? You Eric Dickerson? And
you know, I know you've ran for what it is?
It two thousand? I said, okay, I said, I said okay,
I said, I said, where's your husband?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Said? They try to play it out like that, don't.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really know, thed the husband has sent the wife over,
the husband that sent the wife over, And the wife said,
you're right. I said, I said, go teat your husband,
tell your husband to come on over here. And they said, okay,
I go. I say, I say, I know he knew
what you did. You say, You're very correct. He's afraid
to come over, so he sent his wife over the night.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Yeah. Yeah, what about you, Fred? When you when guys
come up to you for autographs, well.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
First two co up. But if anybody ever asked me.
I'm happy to side.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Fred.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Don't get me wrong, Fred, don't play it off. You
You Fred Rogan, You the Rogan Ambassador, you you all
all of Rogan's heroes and all that stuff. People come
up to you for autographs.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
How do you end? You know what? If you want
an autograph of mine, I signed it here, you go
for it. If they want ten, they go charge.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
If you got ten different Nobody's ever asked me for ten.
If they asked me for one, I signed it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
All right. Uh fod NFL Spotlight's presented by Ford
Okay, we continue on Red Ruggan Rodney Pete E d
Eric Dickerson jumps on with us on this Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Eric, how are you today? Good? Fred? How you doing that?
What's what's going on? What's that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man, I'm just fighting a cold. Man, I've been traveling
so much. It's the worst.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You get it on the plane, No, they got.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I got in the hotel, you know, because I had
the air conditioned on and I can't sleep with the
A C on the room, and and man it got me.
I mean I have real bad allergies and it's just
I'm just a mess. I can't sleep sleep and sitting
up matter of fact in the hotel that the next
night I have to sleep sit up in a chair.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I couldn't even sleep in the bed.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So get so congested right right and choking. I feel
like I'm choking. It's the worst, man, That's what I
getting old and getting sick is.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know a basically do you sleep like a horse?
I mean horse is sleeping standing up, so you were
just sitting up, so you're like a horse.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well it does a horse sleep in a chair? For
it does a horse sleep in a chair? Shot? But
a horse stands up. Do you tell me a horse
sleep up in a chair?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, miniature? Yeah, okay, baby horse, yeah, baby baby pony.
That was That was me. How you guys doing, man
doing well?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Eric?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I just want to say this, and maybe maybe what
you're going through is a cautionary tale for everybody in
Los Angeles. This could be a very bad cold and
flu season. I would like to point that out. I
read that the other day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's all I got, Eric, I'm just saying, and what
you're going through as an example of that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Okay, don't they say that every year, come get your
blue shot.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'll never get Oh it's gonna be the worst. Oh
my god. Just now this one here, this is the one.
I'm telling you. What if you don't take flu shots?
Never had one in my life. For it, Rottney, you
take them. I do not, never had had one.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm afraid of my first I'm afraid of needles for it,
like big time, Like, uh, can't watch them on TV.
Take when somebody take blood or to get a shot.
I was just when I have to when I play
in the NFL, take my blood. I had to lay
down and somebody had to hold my hand. I mean,
it's crazy. I just cannot really shot. Oh, it was bad,
really bad.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Don't you remember at iHeart they used to give away
free flu shot trotteney Do you remember this?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't because I never took them and I never
paid attention to it because I was never gonna get
them anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, and here's the difference between the two of you
and me. I look at it like, if it's free,
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Well, you know, if it's free, Hey, we're giving out
some free Scian.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's free. It's from me. If it's three, I'll take three,
I'll take three. Prase, Uh, he's free COVID.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You can get COVID if you take these uh these
drop a droplets and uh and these pills Fred We're
gonna we're gonna give those away too, because if you
get COVID then you won't get it again.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So just get it. We're gonna give you two turkeys too,
all right. Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm not saying it was the best philosophy. Okay, I'm
not saying.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
That these turkey has been spoiled for three months, but
we're gonna give them away.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Go ahead to get tried to take them.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Try to you're trying in turkeys, but trying to cut it.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
January twentieth, we're giving away these things, giving turkeys.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Fred, come on to cut the bad part off. See
this look a little dark. Go cut this part off.
That discoloration of the right. We'll cut that.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Let's cut that off and you'll be all right. You're
not talking about are you talking about? They were already
cooked or they were frozen.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They don't make a difference for it. No, they're already cooked. Yeah,
they cook turkeys. Well, no, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But if you give me a frozen turkey that you
bought in November in January, I could still cook it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I could have refrozen the turkey, Paul, You know,
I could have refrozen the take turkey could have been
refrozen and gave it to you and you'd be like,
be happy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You'll be so happy we didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Cut the turkey in half and cook it and then
froze the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
There you go back in there. I feel Afred. You
got that? Fred? What are you talking about? I'm just
saying take anything I need. Question?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Hey, I got a question for you guys to ask
you this, you can answer this question. So I was
reading something and somebody asked me this question.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I didn't know. I didn't know the answer.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So I started talking about the tickets possibly going for
four thousand dollars a ticket that the baseball ticket in Toronto,
right right, in Toronto, right right. So I want to
know who gets So how does it split the money?
Does the Major League Baseball get some of the money.
I know the players gets the money, and then each team,
each team on the I know all the players.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Does the team get money too? And maybe Baseball gets money.
That's the way it's rep share.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But that four thousand dollars, Eric, that doesn't go that
doesn't go to the players, the team.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, it doesn't go to anybody. You know what it
goes to. You know what those tickets are the person
sold them.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If you bought one of the whole tel rooms overlooking
the stadium, if you stay at the hotel, those tickets,
the hotel probably bought those tickets for what five hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, Rodnie, you can see it through the window.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
No, no, no, I'm saying the hotel had a deal
with Toronto. If you get to the World Series, then
we get so many World Series tickets for five hundred
bucks apiece, and then they can turn around and sell
them to anybody that wants a hotel room for four thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, but I'm saying, yes, you could do that, or
you can check into those hotels hotel rooms, open your curtains,
and watch the.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Game for four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right, but I'm saying you don't have to go to
the stadium.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What kind of hotel is four thousand dollars? You're in
the hotel, Yeah, it's four thousand dollars for the room.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, yeah, the wait wait wait wait wait, that's not
the ticket, that's the whole that's the hotel room.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Get a hotel room, and you get to watch the
game from your hotel room. Because in Toronto there's a
hotel connected to the stadium, right, so in the outfield
you can watch the game. There's so many rooms that
they have that overlook the stadium. You can watch the
game from your hotel room on the balcony.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah. Don't they have that in Atlanta too, or something
like that, one of those in Atlanta. It's near the stadium. Okay,
it's near the stadium. I know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's as close as something supposed to stay. It's what
about Saint Louis? Is it one there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't think there's an hotel there that you can
do that. Rickleyfield you can look from across the street.
Oh yeah, can I please spend forth anothers.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, it's like for baseball, you would think that there
would be more as the newer stadiums are built, that
they would build more like the Toronto Stadium where they
would have a hotel component to it, because you could
you could overcharge for those rooms that during the baseball game. Uh,
these are fifteen hundred dollars rooms as opposed to you know,
other days it's like a two hundred and fifty dollars room,
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rightfle dollars, we just got a regular room. Anybody would
pay for that. Can you imagine the demand for those
rooms that are overlooking the World Series games in Toronto?
For these first two games, I'm sure those things sold
out in two seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
For four thousand dollars. You think they sold that quick?
Oh yeah they did? Did?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I guess you're right, basto. There're money in Toronto, and
and then you've got Dodger fans coming there too, So yeah,
those things I'm sure it's sold really quick.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Toronto is a beautiful city. It really is. It's a
great city. It is. It's a beautiful city. Yeah, I
love I love Canada. A lot of pretty girls are
too boys, inn Where what you think for Toronto? Not
in the hotel? Notel? How do you know they're pretty bad?
All right? Eric? How do you know they are pretty
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girls in Toronto? A lot of pretty girls? Several times, Fred,
I've been in Toronto several times. How you have? Yeah,
several times. I like to run. I've been there, haven't
been in years, but it is. It's some beauty. And
you know, they're really the Canadian people are really nice people.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
They really are nice people. I mean it's a it's
a different flavoring in Canada.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's no question about it. I think Canada. I think
Canada has the best national anthem. I think so yeah, absolutely,
can you play it? How do I do you know
what the national anthem is? What is it? Kevin will
find it? Oh camp, can you find a Cavin? Can
you Kevin find a Cavi?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Look at the Canadian national anthem. Ok, Yeah, it's great.
I love the Canadian national anthem.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's close to the how about from Detroit, that's close
to them, very close.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
You go right across the uh, there's a there's a
city called Windsor, that's right. That's it directly across the
river from the downtown Detroit. So if you're in downtown,
it takes five minutes to get the Canada. Yeah, and
you either take the tunnel or the bridge. Yeah, and
you go right over there. You go right over there,
and then Toronto's like a forty five minute flight from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, let's hear some of let's hear some of it.
And all right, here's a little bit of here's all Canada.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Read for bathing, realize, way to stand And.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm like, oh, can jump?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
We stand on the job stand God goes, don't wait then,
(09:56):
j just jump.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
What do you think, Eric? I like it. It's kind
of nice. It ain't bad. It ain't bad. It's not
like the national anthem, but it's not bad. And it's
quiet all it's it's quick. You know what I mean too? Yeah?
You like me. I like quickness too. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The funny thing about our national anthem to is that
when they played the national anthem, I rock back and
forth because you know, you play football, you just down
the sidelines, and I still do it. I cannot It's
almost I can't stop. It's a habit. I've been on
the side. I was just rock back and forth and
it's still right now. When they played it out some place,
I'm like, I see I'm rocking back and forth, like
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I'm getting ready to play football.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you were on the sideline and they were playing
the anthem to both of you and you're rocking back
and forth, what's running through your mind during the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Erica done rotting.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm finding to get the hell knocked out of me.
I got try to get I got I gotta try
to get my mind right. I try to get my
mind right.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Simiously, I'm thinking, I mean, because when you play, when
you play football, you play running back, you don't get hit.
I mean, ain't no doubt. So you have to you
really have to get in a mindset that okay, it's
gonna get physical, and I gotta get ready for these
first couple of hits.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And sometimes that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
First she'd be like, whoa, whoa, are you ready for that?
And then sometimes you might have a big run, you know,
but you have to. I just I was a good
end in my mind. Right, Well, what about you, Rodney?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Uh? I always prayed during the national anthem, and Eric's right.
You just you standing there and you always have your
spot where you stand because everybody had to get up
and stand like on the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You find your spot.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
It was always interesting because every team I played with
six different ones, but there was always I don't know
if it's a superstition or not, but there was always
one or two guys that I always stood next to.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
During the national anthem.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
But I usually prayed, had a prayer that I would
say during the national anthem and close my eyes and
but but also be rocking back and forth, you know,
rock swaying, swaying to the music, and then i'm I'm
I'm praying, and whether it be the Lord's prayer or
whatever prayer that I have for that day, I would
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pray during the national anthem.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh Lord, I played for the Detroit Lions. Lord, please
don't let me get knocked out. Lord Jesus, Jesus, protect
me because I know we're terrible. Lord, you don't have
a chance. You don't Heaven.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Father Rookie left capitle today we haven't won a game yet.
Laura Leed Richard did go off to on me today?
Please that's it? Yeah, I definitely prayer four.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Speaker 2 (12:48):
When we come back?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Is it call to play for a team that reinvests?
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
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Speaker 5 (13:17):
NFL spot by Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Hall of Famer
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Speaker 2 (13:21):
Let's go, come on, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
All right, guys, listen, we talk about the Dodgers reinvesting.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Freddy, what did you do during the national anthem? You
asked us, what are you doing there?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I just stand there with my hand over my heart.
You cry? No?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, listen, we talk about the Dodgers reinvesting in
their franchise and how people are complaining. I'm wondering what
it was like for you guys. You guys, talk about
this for a second. Rodney, you played for the Lions,
Eric with the Rams, what's it like to be on
a team that reinvests.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Eric start with you.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, with the Rams, man, we were the cheapest team
in the NFL, So wasn't no investment. I mean, it
wasn't like that, you know, from what I understand, And
like I said, I wasn't in the front office. But
you know, Georgie was spending money really fast, and you
know they were trying to move money around. I told
you before that when I got to Indianapolis, we I'm
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sorry to go back, going out to Rams. We got
two checks. We get a check from like say, Bank
of American, went from City Bank, and I thought that
was normal. So when I got to the Colts, you know,
we got one check.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Wait wait, wait, you gotta you gotta check from City
Bank and from the Rams.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You gotta say, say you got to you gotta check
from City Bank and let's say bank them in two
different banks. That's how they paid us. It was it
was two checks. It wasn't one check. So they were
bouncing around money. From what I understand later, you know,
they were moving money around when.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
They had probably had like a line of credit at
City Bank. The City Bank paid half of y'all salaries and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
The yeah, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So when I got to the Coats, I'll never forget
I went, you know, you know, I got my check
and it was a bigger check in. So I'm like,
so where we get the other check at? They said whatever,
check Like we got two checks and now we don't
want check here.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know. So it was different. I mean that team,
you know, they they they didn't be investing in the Rams.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I got to say, you know, we had we had
some great teams, man, I thought, and sometimes one or
two players away, but they didn't have the money, just
didn't want to invest in.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
John Shaw he always said that football players are like horses.
You open the gate, they'll run, you know. That was
that was that was his motto. Show it was a
different areas.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He said that as a quote. He said that, Yeah,
it was. Somebody told me said that, you know, and
I know, knowing John, like horses, they open the gate
and they run.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's how John Shaw was John when John was big
on he loved horse racing. So that's where he was
similar players to horses. You know, and think about it, Rodney,
when you put us on the field, no matter how
mad you are at the orders, because it was times
I was pissed off at them, but you're still gonna play.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And that's true. So it's like a horse when you
open the gate, they're gonna take off, run and that's
that's just just what we did. Yeah, coach. On the
other hand, you know, they just well that was just
a bad organization. Man.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He had the money, but it was a bad It
was a bad organization. The racism was out of control.
It was just bad there.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
God, I keep telling people and I told you, man,
I want to go to Risk and so bad. I
wish I could have played for the Washington Riskins back
in those days.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know, like to John told me.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He told me later, you know, he admitted he said,
if we wanted to send you somewhere where you'd be forgotten,
we could punish you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They were trying to punish me. But speaking out.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Because back then there were a handful of teams that
were doing it right. I mean, you teams are teams
are forced to do it right. They're forced to pay
the players, and you know, you've got you know, better organization,
and the Union is still the Union, but still their
salary caps and there's things that they have, they generated
where you got to pay the players.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
You can't just hold out and be a team that
you know, collects all the money and not pay the players.
But you know, back then, they could, they could, They
could strong arm the players and say we're not gonna
pay you this, We're not gonna pay that, We're not
gonna do it. And there wasn't the off the field
money that there is today.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It was no off the field money, very very little
off the field money. I mean, think about it, man,
When I came to the league, minimum wages thirty thousand dollars.
A lot of guys had had had like they had
set sold cars, then another job. You know, you came
about thirty thousand dollars a year, you know, you know,
especially not in Los Angeles, you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
How many NFL teams did reinvest guys? How many NFL
teams did it right? I would say about five? Maybe
five did that right? Well? Maybe maybe when you came in, right,
what did you come in Rodney eighty nine? I came in, Yeah,
you can't, I'm gonna tell you. In my era, I
would say maybe two or three forty nine is for sure.
The Redskins.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Eddie de Barlowe got it from day one. He got
everybody went to play for him. Everybody I want to
play for him. I mean, I mean, I'm like, man,
Michael is young to be a Niner. And the Redskins
did it right. The Redskins would do it right. The
Cowboys could kind of doing it right. You know, they
hit that, you know, they let's stay with the Cowboy
They were They weren't great about it, but they were,
you know, doing some things that were right by the players,
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some things. But it was I'm gonna say it was
only those two teams, and I can't when I was
in the league for it. It was just two that
was it, And I think about it.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, and all those owners, you know, like they accused them,
you know now of but but all of them got
together and said we're going to do it this way
till one of y'all. You can't jump outside the lines
and start paying guys more because then we all got
to do it. So you talk about collusion, there was
definitely collusion going on back then where they had meetings
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where hey, we're not gonna pay anybody more than this,
We're not going to you know, do any kind of
special favors or anything like that, because we got to
keep our our money the way it is. But then
times obviously change. But yeah, you know, air goes from
two to three. Probably when I got in there in
eighty nine ninety it was you know, maybe five tall
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total teams that really were about the organization and we're
going to build it the way we want to build
it and not really worry about, you know, all the
other owners in the NFL and what they may say,
because we're paying our payers extra or we're giving them
extra money and extra you know, off season opportunities.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And that was the thing about Eddie de Barlow. He
wanted everybody to get paid.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
He wanted everybody to be help you know, happy and
successful and you know, and and in the off season
he was instrumental to hit guys, you know, car deals
or whatever it may be out you know, outside of
their contracts, as opposed to a lot of teams were
we're not really engaging in a lot of that. And
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I distinctly remembered in Detroit, you know, every you know,
every three or four years, well I was there for five,
but you know, we'd have a good year and instead
of saying, we got to re sign this guy because
he was a fourth for us. He was a great
linebacker and he should get paid. And his contract was
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up and they didn't pay him, and they let him
the receiver let him go. And then I get to
Dallas and they go, you know, we just went to
the Super Bowl. We got to go sign Charles Haley
because we want to win multiple Super Bowls, you know.
And so it was a different mentality of those teams
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as opposed to other teams. Most of the teams in
the league were not going to reinvest back into the
franchise because it was all about the bottom line. From answer,
the Jets are off to an O and seven start,
all right, Now, neither one of you have been out
of the team that started that poorly?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right, Oh yeah, what I am? You have the coat.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I think we started off we were one in eight
in Detroit at one point I think we were. I
mean we turned it around and became I think we
were seven and nine at the end of the season,
but we had at one point we're one in eight
in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
All right, At what point do guys do you think
mentally it gets tougher for him? They kind of check
out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Can can you hear me? Yeah? We got okay, yeah, yeah?
What did you say? Fred? I'm sorry to hear what
you said. What was your question? At what point does
it get tough mentally for you?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
If you start out winless like that or one win
and you know, eight losses, when do you check out?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Do?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Guys? Oh? Fred?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I can tell you on that we were at the
coat I went. I was gonna say, we went one
in fifteen. Think about that, you would I would even
want to?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I would. I don't even I didn't play in the game.
They won one in fifteen.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
When you're like oh and four or oh and three,
you pretty much checked out because you know you're not
going to because you can look at your team until
we're no good.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, we don't have the players, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I just asked, uh, one of my old offices, Line
baldeam our Son at the Raiders game, and I asked
him about one of the players. I won't say his name,
and yeah, Brian Balding Man Like, yeah, Baldy was not
the biggest guy, but Baldy would give he would give
you all he had. That's what I liked about Baldy.
He would he would fight. I mean he would give
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you all he had. And it was another offensive line
we had. He was big, he was about six po seven.
He was this He was a scary cat. He was
just scared.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Man. It was just he told me a story. He
said that they played the Eagles. I think I was gone.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We played the Eagles, he say, And Reggie White told
this offensive line s his name Kevin you know, Kevin
Carll was his name, Kevin Carl. He says, Hey, I'm
gonna see you after the game. I want to eat
you after the game, he said, Eric, from the time
he said that to him, every time we come in
the side, he said, man, what do.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You think he meant by that? You know, what do
you think he gonna fight me? What do you think
he meant by that? You know, what do you think
he meant? He said? He said that every almost every series.
What do you think he meant? And what he meant was?
They said?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
After the game? He said, finally, I told him that
in the game, he's probably going to pray for you.
And that's exactly what he did. He wanted to pray
for him. That's what you know, because he was you
know certain guys, man Fred, It's just this is scared.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm telling you every player bad, that players in the
NFL should not be played in the NFL. I'm just
telling you that, right, Man. I played on use with
some teams and guys were just cowards. I mean, they
didn't care. And that makes it hard when you and
five and six and win one game. Man, you just think,
I can't wait to pack my step up to get
the hell out of here. You know, put off season.
You know, I don't want to get hurt. I don't
want to have to come back and get treat me.
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So that's that's how that's that's your mentality.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What do you mean there were cowards. They were scared
to play. They were scared.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
They were scared of the other, scared of the opposing team,
afraid of them. We played and we played the Giants
on the Monday. On the Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
At Thursday night, I was with the coach and.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
One of the guys he gets I get into an
argument with one of the defensive linemen and this same
guy says me, Eric, come on.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Man, you're gonna piss them off. Man, I said, you
mean pissed them? I said, they already made you already mad.
I'm gonna piss them off.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean, you'll be surprised how many guys just afraid
afraid of the guy that's lining up against them, across
from them.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Afraid of But they got to play. They got they
gotta act like they're playing them not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Aren't the coaches aware of this when they put the.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Guy in the team fit again? Fred? He said, the
coaches aware.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Aren't they aware that they've got a guy out there
they're gonna be afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, but if you ain't got nobody else, what you
gonna do? I mean, you have no other you know,
the backup is worse than the starter and the third team.
Oh my god, he shouldn't even be in the league.
He's you know, he shouldn't even be here. So you
got to play the guy. You got to hope and
hopefully that some kind of way that he musters up
some courage like they like to us a line and
wizard of bous.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The scared lion, the cowards, the coward, the cowardly lion.
He's a lion. He's a lion like this guy here.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
He was a big guy. This guy was six foot
seven three, hundred pounds and just a coward man just scared.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, I mean, and you know it was You can't
you can't hide in professional sports.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You can't hide.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
In the NFL or even basketball or baseball, you can't hide.
And in college there are teams that are so much
better than other teams that things get overlooked. And if
you're playing for Michigan, you know, back in the day,
Ohio State or sc or you know, even with Eric's
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team at SMU, you got guys up and down that
offensive line that had you know, two rushers, you know,
like like like the Pony Express running all over people.
They think everybody on that offensive line is big time.
And same thing with you know, you got a Michigan
team that goes to the Rose Bowl and you think
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that all of them are tough and all of them
are great. Where that guard that got all the pubs
for that Michigan line might be the weakest link of
that offensive line. But he he got he got carried
because Michigan out ran and out rushed everybody in the
country and he happened to be the senior that everybody
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focused on. Well, when you get to the league and
there's so many one on one matchups and you got
to deal with guys one on one and you don't
have the help of that tackle next to you. Or
you're a running back that doesn't you know, have a
gaping hole for you to run through and you don't
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get touched for seven yards when you every time you
touch the ball in college. That ain't gonna be the
case in the NFL. Or you're a receiver that never
gets hit and you're running wide open every single play
in college, that ain't gonna be the case in the NFL.
And and guys get exposed when they when they have
to really be good, because everybody is good. I don't
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care how many teams are out there that that don't win.
They're they're good players on every single team. And so
you're gonna get expos if you're not good enough, or
you don't have courage, or you don't have heart. And
that happens on a regular basis from guys that come
from big time schools that they're you know, dominant in college,
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but yet they get to the NFL and go, well,
weren't you like the All American right tackle and you
did all these things. Yeah, but we were so much
better than everybody else that it didn't really matter. I
stood out. But they get to the NFL and it's
like he's got that good Yep, I was the guy.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Was a guy that they drafted, the guy, steroid guy,
the Coast Draft of green that was the name, the
Coast Draft of the Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I can't think he was a big.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He got drafted before Barry Sanders, right the Green Bay. Yeah,
went to Green Bay, Michigan state guy.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Total total bust, total bust. So Bridey is right, Fred
right here. That's the example he gives you. You got
these guys that they think that because they're in college
and sometime they play against guys is not as good.
But when you put up against some real some real talent,
a guy that's across from there, and it's not afraid
of them, it's like, oh, you know, that's just talking
that noise like hey man, I'm gonna get you, you know,
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and they playing like he's like oh man, oh my god,
what is he talking about that. That's a that's a
different mindset, you know, that's a totally different mindset. Like
I told you, Ricky Jackson, I'm gonna get he told me.
We played against the Saints, and then they were hitting,
I mean really hit you like then. And he told me,
he said, Eric, he said, man, we thought we're gonna
break you. He said, you ran high and purity. We're
gon we're gonna break you, he said. He said, we
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came back to the huddle. He said, man, like he
running harder now. I said, because Ricky, I'm from the country.
I mean, I'm I got I got a totally different,
total different mentality, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And that's what it is. That's the mentality that that
each player had.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Baseball, basketball, football, like Kobe's and Kobe Bryant's mentality, the
mentality had the mama mentality, I mean, Michael joined them.
The mentality that you have to get Otani the mentality
that he has when he walks into the play. It
might not be going well all the time, but like
we talked a couple of weeks ago, I said, sooner
or later, I said, he's gonna heat up, and he did.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
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Speaker 1 (29:14):
The NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. Guys, is a
petty to not autograph an item for a kid because
you don't like your experience for the franchise.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 5 (29:53):
That's right back to the NFL, Ford NFL Spotlight, Rodney, Pete,
Fred Rogan, the Hall of Famer Air Dickerson.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, let's do this Rodney. So here's the question.
Did you guys hear the story about Russell Westbrook. Uh,
he walked off the court and there are some kids
standing there holding jerseys and they're asking him to sign
the jerseys if he'd be so kind. So you know,
it's like him playing in Houston, Okay see, and then
kids had Laker jerseys. So he signed the jerseys of
(30:23):
like Houston and Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Scene. When he got to the.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Laker jerseys, he didn't sign them. Now, to be fair,
I believe he did sign something else for them, but
he wouldn't sign those jerseys. And he wouldn't sign the
Laker jerseys because obviously he didn't have a very good
experience with the Lakers. So that being said, and you
both have signed autographs in your life, is it Petty
(30:45):
did not sign an autograph a kid has because you
didn't like your experience.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
With the franchise, Petty, No, No, And there's there's times
in your life. First of all, people are human, and
I know people like the believe that that athletes are
not human and don't have feelings and should just do
whatever they tell him to do and shut up and
dribble or shut up and throw and shut up and
pitch and whatever. But no, no, there are there are
(31:14):
things that affect you. And if you have a bad
experience at a certain place, a real bad experience, it's
got an ugly taste in your mouth. And if a
fan or if it's you know, a kid representing you know,
a collector or somebody's going to sell it at a
show then, which happens all the time by the way,
(31:38):
that these collectors and these autograph hounds and these guys
that do shows send kids to go get as many
autographs as possible, So that's another factor into it. But no,
it's not petty, especially if he signed something else for
the kid. Now, if he didn't sign anything else for
the kid, and you know, was mad at the kid,
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and probably the kid didn't know the history or you know,
his feelings towards the Lakers, and Russell decided to take
it out on the kid and not sign anything else.
That's a different story. But apparently he signed some other
things for the kid. So absolutely not petty.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know, I didn't have.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
You know, great relationships, you know, when I left the Lions,
but now I do. It's kind of been wrinkindled. But
I get it.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Some guys have bad experiences at certain places and don't
want to be associated with that, and I and I
get the idea that listen, I'll sign whatever for you,
but I'm not gonna sign a jersey from a particular
team that hated me and I hated them, and I'm
not gonna give him that satisfaction. I don't care if
it's a kid or not. But the fact that he
did sign something else, I thought that was good. So
(32:53):
I have no problem with him. What do you think, Eric,
we're having some trouble with Eric's audio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
What do you think, Fred, what do you think? Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You know what, Rodney, he didn't sign it because he
didn't have a great experience with the Lakers. That's why
he didn't sign those jerseys. He did sign something else,
And I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That another word.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, I'm going to hook you up. I just didn't
enjoy my time there. I'd never heard that before that.
You know, I wasn't really happy there. I'm not gonna
ever heard that before. Not because I wasn't happy there
that I've not heard heard.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Of a guy or anybody not signing something for a
particular team that they weren't happy with.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You've never heard that before. No, I really haven't. But
who asked me to sign anything? I don't know. I'm
talking about in general.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
You've never heard that a player or an athlete his
experience at a particular organization was not cool, so he
refused to sign something.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You've never heard that before. No, not a jersey. I've
not heard that. Honestly, you need to get out a
little bit more. Yeah, I mean I agree with riding
in with that. I mean, he did sign something for
the kid. You know what would buzz me more than
his volume up? I can't. It's up there you go.
(34:16):
Can you hear me? I saw this is this thing.
I agree with riding it with that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know, when you play for certain teams that you
have a bad experience, I can as say I had
a bad experience in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I mean really I did. I mean, but I do.
So I will sign the coach jersey. I'll signed the
coach helmet.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Now. I've had people ask me what I put in
one on five and I said, no, I'm not gonna
do that because I didn't have to. I did not
have undred yards at Indianapolis. I had in LA So
I refused to do that part of it. I'll signed
pretty much anything, you know, And and you know, Ridingey
is right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
When you have a bad experience, you know, sometimes they
want you to just get over it, and you can't.
I sign an interview with Reggie Jackson. He was on
the panel with with some other baseball players after I
don't know what game it was, and they asked him
about all it was great to be back here, and
Reggie just told the truth, No, it was not great
to be back here.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It was a lot of racism going on. And I
mean and they don't expect that. They don't expect that
kind of stuff. And so by signing an autograph, I
signed pretty much anything that you put in front of me.
I mean, I don't mind it. I mean it's I
didn't have a great expense with the Raiders, but I'll
still sign it. I mean, and I liked I liked
the Raider organization. I think they do great with the players.
(35:22):
I think they do a great job but bring the
players back. And even when the Rams, and I was
the Rams, I mean, I was pissed when I left there,
pissed off. I was mad as hell at them for
with the way they did me. But I was still signed,
especially for kids, Prad I mean to Rodney too, you know,
and it's for a kid. And Roddy's right about one thing.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You have.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
These guys, they'll send three and four things over. You know,
it's going back and forth because when they come up.
When I was at I just did a show it
in Virginia and some guys caught me at the airport.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm like, man, come on, man, that's what you went
to the airport so early? He said, we just wanted
to catch it for you before you left. I said,
I'm gonna tell you something. I said, I will sign
one idol for each one of y'all. I said, I say,
you got two helmets. Said, I'm not that big a
fan of my damn self. I'm not signing them two helmets.
So I'll sign one helmet and then that's it. So
but yeah, I get it Rodney saying, I mean, you
have a bad experience. You just it's just a bad experience,
(36:13):
it is, and you just cannot let it go.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Sometimes I get that. No, I just know it's interesting.
He did sign, which is nice. He's not something, right,
He's not something the kid right, he's signed something for sure,
you take it out on the kid.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
I'm not gonna trying the Laker the Laker jersey because
that's not That's not who I represent or I want
to be represented by. If you give me okay See
or Houston or wherever else I played, then I'll sign that.
But that was not something that I want to put
my name on.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And I'm a go everybody. I'm okay with that. I'm
gonna tell you what I can't stand, Fred.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I can't stand when these athletes are actors or Whoever,
when a kid comes up and asks for an autograph
and it's so rude to him, it's just it pisses
they're rude to them. They're rude to the kid. Rule
like like that get away maget. I'm not signing that
to get away from me. You know. Oh man, that
is a real problem for me. I mean, I don't
say nothing, but I'm like, man, that's that's wrong. I
(37:12):
just feel like I said, because one day I was
this what I this way? I look at autographs. I said, look,
I haven't played football but forty years or whatever, and
people come ask me for my autograph. I think it's
an honor, I said, because I say, I've always said this.
One day you ask gonna get old and ain't nobody
gonna know who the hell you are? And you're gonna
wish that somebody would come up and say, well, you
signed my autograph. When they and they look at everybody
(37:33):
else around you, and you're like, in your mind, you
may say, man, I was a great player too, what
about me? But nobody wants you or because you weren't asked,
or because you know you're just old now and we
don't know who you are. That happens to all of us.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, and sometimes, you know, the problem is nowadays it's
such there's such a profitability with autographs and these shows
that oftentimes you don't know comes from.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And Eric's right.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
You come out of a hotel if it's an event
that they you know, and through social media, through publicity,
through marketing, whatever it is, oftentimes these these guys know
where you're staying, they know when the event is happening,
they know you're in town for a particular thing, and
they will come up either them, and I appreciate when
(38:24):
they come up. But when they send kids with a book,
you know, and they got a book of of of
you know, trading cards, and it's not just one. They
got a book of fifteen trading cards that they want
you to sign, it becomes this is this is not
just getting an autograph. This is this is for marketing
(38:44):
or for for you to make some money off of.
And that's when it becomes a problem, not only for them,
and and and Eric's right, you know, I will often
do that too. I'll sign one of these which one
you want me to sign? I'll sign one, you know,
But I'm not signing twenty different pictures and twenty different
cards you know that you have in a booklet that
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you're sitting outside of a hotel just to get autographed
so you can go trade them in at a show
or sell them on eBay or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Maybe I'll tell you one thing is I got to
give women credits, you know, and bright that this having
happened to you somewhere and a woman comes over and
she says, are you riding Peter? You Eric Dickerson? And
you know, I know you've ran for what it is?
It two thousand? I said, okay, I said, I said okay,
I said, I said, where's your husband?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Said? They try to play it out like that, don't.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really know, thed the husband has sent the wife over,
the husband that sent the wife over, And the wife said,
you're right. I said, I said, go teat your husband,
tell your husband to come on over here. And they said, okay,
I go. I say, I say, I know he knew
what you did. You say, You're very correct. He's afraid
to come over, so he sent his wife over the night.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Yeah. Yeah, what about you, Fred? When you when guys
come up to you for autographs, well.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
First two co up. But if anybody ever asked me.
I'm happy to side.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Fred.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Don't get me wrong, Fred, don't play it off. You
You Fred Rogan, You the Rogan Ambassador, you you all
all of Rogan's heroes and all that stuff. People come
up to you for autographs.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
How do you end? You know what? If you want
an autograph of mine, I signed it here, you go
for it. If they want ten, they go charge.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
If you got ten different Nobody's ever asked me for ten.
If they asked me for one, I signed it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
All right. Uh fod NFL Spotlight's presented by Ford
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