October 21, 2025 • 37 mins
The Chargers were blown out against the Colts on Sunday - are they in trouble? Its Lit features the Angels hiring a new manager, college football talk and more. A man faked his own funeral to see how much people actually loved him
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh yes, yes, we keep it moving on a Tuesday.
It is the.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
NFL Ford Spotlight, the Ford NFL Spotlight, the NFL Ford Spotlight,
the NFL Eric Dickerson Spotlight, however you want to call it.
It is the NFL Ford Spotlight with the Hall of
Famer Eric Dickerson, Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a Tuesday.
And we'll get into a little bit more Dodgers, obviously,
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because that's that's the focal point this week as the
Dodgers get ready for the World Series this Friday, starting
in Toronto. As the Blue Jays won last night in
a four to three win over the Mariners. But e g,
let's go back to let's get back to the NFL man,
because I want to get your thoughts on here. We
are basically at the mid season point. I mean, I
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think there's some teams that have played seven games. There's
teams that have played eight games. We're in the middle
of the thicket. And when I say the three local teams,
obviously I include the Raiders because the Rams, Chargers and
Raiders I think are our local teams here even though
they play in Vegas. But there's so many Raider fans
here in La. We got to include them as one
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of our local teams. But let's start with let's start
on your thoughts on where the Chargers are ed at
this point in the season. There, they're four and three.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
They had an.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Impressive win to start the season against Kansas City and Brazil,
and everybody believe that this is the year Harboro had
one year under his belt, last year, a year under
his belt with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now this is the year that they.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Start turning it around or start to go in the
right direction, start to go up heel and Harball's that
coach that knows how to turn teams around and franchises
a round in a quick fashion. And it looked like
that when they went down there and beat Kansas City,
actually beat them pretty soundly.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And then people.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Believe that Kansas City was this was an end of
an era and that now there's going to be a
changing of the guard. But for the Chargers, it looked
like they had okay, they were ready and poised to
turn the corner and be that team of the AFC West.
But they've had some stumbles along the way, whether it
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be you know, the Colts, the Commanders came in there
and beat them, you know soundly, you know at so far?
What do you make of the Chargers right now and
where they're at, even though they're four and three? How
do you feel about them? And how should you feel
if you're a Charger fan?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, I still say the Chargers have a good football team.
But the problem, not right now is and you've heard
me say this before, is that when you have starting
players out, their offensive line I think is decimated right now.
And when you have starting players out, it hurts your
football team badly. Like I always say, you got these
offensive linemen, I would call them your people say them
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fat guys up front, you know, I say, yeah, them
Swisch new Skis and then you might not know their names.
But let me tell you something. Those guys are very
very important. I think the offensive line is decimated. They're
not running the ball very well. And you're asking justin
Herbert So on Sunday he threw the ball. Yes, he
threw the ball fifty five times. I think the week
before he threw it fifty times or forty times. You
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can't you can't sustain that. I mean, you have to
be able to mix run and pass, and you're rely
strictly on your quarterback, you know, to make something happen
every game, and your team is beat up, your defenses
is hurt, you can't stop anyone. You lose. I mean,
that's what it comes down to. When you don't have
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the starters, man, it makes a big difference. And I
think that is I think that's one of the main
problems with the Chargers right now, is that they have
a lot of people that are hurt, that are injured,
and they're putting the owners on Justin Herbert, which is
you know, yes, he's a superstar, but he he had
four hundred and twenty yards passing, but he had two picks,
three touchdowns, and you know, righty, well, is it them
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pick them? Two picks hurt? They hurt a football team.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But getting is he getting a little bit of a
pass ed because other quarterbacks around the league. If if
a team like the Chargers, who was built up to
be this and that, and they're four and three and
had some ugly losses, and yes, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
He hasn't played well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I'm not I'm saying all of them, but he
hasn't played well in like three or four of these games.
Is he getting to pass as a guy that just
you know, people are letting get away with not being
that kind of franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, I don't think he's getting to pass. I think
when you got players hurt you. When you got your
when you got your starting offensive line, that's hurt. You know.
You can't be saying you're getting to pass because you
got you got guys out, So how do you get
a pass? I mean, now, if you've got your full
arstele of guys, well, let's just say you got eighty
percent of your team. No, you're not getting to pass.
You can't get a pass on that. But it's like Ron,
It's like you as a quarterback if you have your
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your just starting tackle both just starting tackle as a
guard or a center out and you got you know,
say that you're not running the ball well and you
got one receiver, How well do you think he's gonna play?
I mean, what do you think you gon'll be able
to do? And you and you're playing against a team
that say not good, it's not gonna be good. And
that's to me what's happening with the Chargers right now.
They have a lot of injuries on office and defense,
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and office expect the offensive line. I mean, I think
they're playing the backup to the backup. I mean, it's
only so much you can do. And like I said that,
they're not ranting the ball well at all. I mean
that if I'm a team, I'm like, hey, we're not
gonna let that quarter. We're not gonna let Justin Herbert
beat us. You know, we'll we'll give him the run,
but we're not giving the pass. We'll come here and
play Nickel.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But here's the problem with the charges and Justin Herbert
when you look at the big picture of it. Yeah,
they're banged up and they're struggling now, but still the
finger gets pointed to Justin Herbert, despite the fact that
life now, no one's arguing that, Eric, you're not the
guys on the lamb. But still in all the fingers
are being pointed at him, and therein lies the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yep, I agree with that, Fred, Like I said, when
you were when you're a superstar and the football team,
it's always your fault. It's like they dropped the punt.
We hell and we won the game. They would have
dropped that punt. I mean, how quarterback something like, But
he don't catch punts. He he don't catch punts. He
don't like, he don't play defense, he don't block. He's
a quarterback. You have to give you a protection. And
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I get it. I make I say, when you're the
star player, you gonna get all the flat and then
when you plan you might not even be playing good.
But when you win it, you get all the praise too.
So it's a two way street. I'm just saying what
I see. That's what I see is the charges beat
up football team. And you know there's still four and three.
I mean, but they got they got manhandled by the Coats.
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They really did. They got. They got beat up pretty good.
I mean it wasn't even a game. I mean they
looked like it was a game. We look at the underscore,
but it really wasn't that close.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think a bigger question is how the hell have
the Colt's done this this year?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I'm gonna tell you that building slowly, they've been building
a good football team, especially defensively. And I know stichen
Is is you know offensive guy that came from Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Man, but I think they have.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Created a culture there and have built a team. You know,
they had Jonathan Taylor who they drafted, who is flying
under the radar because I think he is. I don't
know what you think, Eric, but that cat is a
bad man. He is a great running back for them
that can carry the load if they need him to.
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But I think they were handcuffed by the quarterbacks the
last few years and Anthony Richardson and trying to build
the team around him and it didn't work out. And
now they've got a guy in Daniel Jones who basically
is he is not making mistakes, he is playing sound
football within himself, within this system, making plays. He makes
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four or five plays a game and allows that defense
to keep it close. And they've got some playmakers on
the outside as well. And then they can turn around
and had that ball off to Jonathan Taylor thirty times.
They've got a recipe for success and and they're doing
it well, and they've they've they've built it, you know,
kind of the right way where they and it's a
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good young team too, and they're playing with a lot
of confidence right now. So you know, it all depends
on where you are and what the status is and
what's around you. Daniel Jones now doesn't have to carry
the load. Like when he was in New York. You know,
everything felled on him, fell on him, and and and
even though you know, Brian David, I think he's a
good offensive mine. They didn't have all of the uh,
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the weapons or at least the personnel like they have
in in Indianapolis. They had Saquon, but they didn't have
an offensive line. Even Saquon struggled and New York because
of the offensive line. And so now he doesn't have
to you know, you know, in here and then and
receive and take all the pressure like he did in
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New York. Now he can just go out and play
and play within the system. So they're a good team.
They really are. They're not fools goal. I think the
Colts are for real.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I agree with you. I mean, and like I said,
I'm not a Colts fan, I play for that team,
but I have to agree right there. I mean, Daniel
Jones is playing some good football. I mean he had
two hundred and eighty eight yards passing the other day,
two touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor had sixteen character ninety four yards.
But I'm gonna tell you it's just the dominance that
they're doing it in. I mean, he almost averaged six
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yards to carry. I mean their receiving court is good.
I mean they've got pitman, they've got piers, they got
warn of the tight end. I mean, and they're spread
the ball around. I mean they really spread it around well.
And the defense is good. And I think that one
thing that when I watched that game, when I did
see I'm like, man, look at some of these holes
that office in line is knocking over. Offensive line is
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doing that. They doing their job. I mean. So when
they came to play the Rams, I said, hey, man,
this is gonna be a tough game. I said, I
think the Colts are for real because I think before
when they played the Rams, they had on the planet
one time.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, that's what I mean, thinking about it, that's a
game they should have won too.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's the game they should have won, right, But that's
the losers always say that we should.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, well, the eighty yard touchdown pass otherwise you
know they win that game. But you're right, you know,
you can't. You can't allow that to happen if you're
a good team.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
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Speaker 2 (11:10):
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Speaker 1 (11:17):
Come on, all right, let's find.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Out what's going on in the past two hours? Fired
up Kevin?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
All right, guys, So always, as we know, the Raiders
are pretty terrible these days again. Got shut out against
Kansas City on Sunday. They had like I think the
Kansas City Chiefs had more first downs than the Raiders
actually had in plays run or offense or whatever it was.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
It was pretty ugly.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Now we know their best players on defense, Max Crosby,
and he has openly looked frustrated at these last couple
of weeks, And how could you blame him? So I
saw this from Trey Wingo used to cover the NFL
for ESPN. Now he's doing it independently. He says, according
to his sources, the Dallas Cowboys, who are in need
of pass rusher if only they had one coming into
the season, have actually made inquiries to the Raiders about
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potentially trading for Max Crosby.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
So I guess it's a two prong question for my
two nflers here. So if you are the Raiders, you
clearly know you're not going anywhere. You have one of
the best defensive players in the league. You can probably
get a decent haul for him.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Do you hold on and try to see if he's
gonna be an important part if you're rebuilt, or do
you try to trade him to the Dallas Cowboys and
try to recoup and get some more draft picks and
start to rebuild.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
I guess I'll start with you, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Oh, I think you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, I think it's in play certainly, and if
you can get the world for Max Crosby, then you
try to do it. Think about it. I mean, it's
Pete Curle's first year there.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They thought that this was going to be an immediate
turnaround or not, or what their thought process was that
we need to rebuild this team and it's going to
take us three to four years to do that. If
that's the case, then yeah, you pull the trigger and
see if you can. If you can get multiple picks
and some players for Max Crosby, obviously he's top three
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to five pass rushers in the league, try to get
as much as you can for him. And I think
you can ask for the world. If you don't get it,
you don't get it. But I don't think you certainly
are aggressively trying to get rid of Max and take
whatever you try to get what you can and if
you can get a boat load, why not.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I agree with Rodney. I agree with Rodney with that.
I mean, I like Max Crosby. I think he's a
true Raider. But man, it's sad to watch a great
player on a bad football team. It really is, because
he's such a great player and he deserves better than that.
And it is right if this is a building year
of this is building for the Raiders, like three or
four years, you give him a chance to go somewhere
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and possibly have a chance to theyre not going to
super Bowl in Dallas. But at least play on a
team that's really really competitive with some other players. And
if you can get let's say you can get a
first round to two first rounds for him, a first
round or second round.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think you do that deal. Well, I'll tell you something.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I think in any situation, you want to win now,
but you want to get a better long term, all right,
and you have to make tough decisions. So Max Crosby,
he's a great player, and he's gonna help somebody. He's
gonna help somebody. Is he helping you more than getting
those picks? Probably not, because you've got to do something
to rebuild. It's the definition of insanity. We're just gonna
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stay the way we are, Okay. Well, if that's the case,
nothing's going to change. I know it's tough to trade
away a great player. Eric Dickerson was a great player,
and you should never trade away the greats. Now the
Rams traded Eric, did they get better?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No? Not really.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
But if the Raiders believe they can in doing so,
then I think they should do it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It talks about this yesterday with Bob Nightingale about the
Angels managerial position. Albert Poohols has fallen off. He was
deemed the front runner as of last week, and Kurtzuzuki
was seen as Torri with Tory Hunter as two of
the front runners. Two guys are inside the Angel organization
as an assistance to the journal manager Perry Manazien. The
Angels that officially announced earlier today that Kurtzuzuki, who just
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retired a couple of years ago, by the way, and
has no coaching experience whatsoever, is going to be the
new manager of the Angels.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
That doing anything for you. Fred.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
First of all, congratulations to Kurtsuzuki. Seriously, it is an
accomplishment to become a major league manager or an NFL coach,
or an NBA coach, NHL coach. That is incredible. Obviously
they believe he has the skill set. So we say
congratulations to him. Will also say condolences because he's got
no shot.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
To win none. Now.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
In these situations, oftentimes, oftentimes somebody gets an opportunity and
really does make the most of it. Here's the problem
he's up against, Kevin. He's not gonna have the resources.
That's his problem. You could be the greatest manager in
the world. We put Dave Roberts with the success in
his head with the Dodgers in Anaheim, is he going
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to have that kind of success.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
If you put Aaron Boone from the Yankees, is he
going to have that success?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
No? No.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
If we took Terry Francona, who had a very good
year with the Reds and put him in Anaheim, would
he have that kind of success? No, No, because you
can't because it is virtually impossible for you to achieve
that because of the environment. It's great to be a
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major league manager, but I think Kurtzuzuki will quickly learn
that it's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not that much fun some days.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, it's like they say, when you're gambling, all money
not good money.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Don't always take it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And yes, it's a great opportunity for Kurt Suzuki and
you know, becoming a manager, But all the situations are
not great situations if you don't have the resources.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I don't care who you put in there. Look, they
brought in Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Madden, who I believe over the last thirty years, Joe
Madden many people would believe is one of the best,
you know, managers, culture builders in baseball, and they couldn't
make it work with him. And obviously it didn't end well.
And then Ron Washington obviously had the health issues. But
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Ron Washington also took the Rangers the two World Series,
and so it just the culture has to change before
anybody could be successful as a manager in Anaheim. So
until that happens, I feel for Kurt. Good for you.
You got a job, new manager, first time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Great. But to win there, to help Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Battle, well, let me ask. First of all, I didn't
know Chris zuki Is. I've never heard of him. So
he played baseball or whatever. I don't know you I know.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Wait, he was a fundamentally Kevin Is this fair? He
was a fundamentally sound catcher.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
He was a very good catcher, good defensive catcher, well
respected in the cup house. He had the mentality of
someone who think could be a manager eventually. So okay
that part.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Of okay, okay, well, good good for him. But you
said it, best friend. I mean, if you ain't got
the resources and the money, uh, you're not gonna win
and you can't get the players. It's impossible. That's in
any sport. I told somebody when they were talking about
what's his name, Satan Nick Saban a great coach. I said,
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I'll tell you what. Let Nick Saban go to s
m U. Well this is ten years ago, and see
if he could win with the talent we got. If
you don't have the talent and the players and the
money to go with it, I don't Jesus couldn't go
down there and win. That's what it like that. So
I guess I'm happy for him that he has a
job as a manager, But in a sense I feel
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bad for him too.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Roddie, what do you always say about a guy when
he's picked in the NFL draft? You know, a guy
gets picked as a quarterback, he's going to a bad team.
So right off the bat, if he's picked early, his
chance for success isn't very good. It's where you go.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, if you're a number one pick in the draft,
oftentimes you're going to a bad team.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Cam Ward is figuring that out, you know, as the
number one picking the draft in Tennessee, he's going through
his struggles. Tennessee has been a bad team for the
last three years. You know, and even Trevor Lawrence back
in the day, who was the everybody believe was the
can't miss, you know, behind John Elway coming out in
eighty three, Trevor Lawrence was the most talented, the best
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quarterback coming out in the draft since Elway and then Jacksonville.
You can't do it all yourself, and it's been a
struggle for him.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It definitely depends on where you go.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And it's the same thing with the manager in baseball,
and Eric's right, if you don't have the talent, you
don't have the resources to build that talent. I don't
care how great you are, you're not gonna win. You
can bring back Tommy Lasorda and have him coached the
Angels and they're still not gonna wins.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The example justin Herbert we were talking about if you
ain't got the play, it ain't own him, but you
look at him, you don't have it. A nice little
team over that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
But you know, Eric, you brought up Nick Saban a
second ago. He's now an analyst for ESPN, and he
was talking about all these firings. There's been nine in
season firings at FBS level schools so far this season,
and he says it has less to do with performance,
although partially more to do about the influence that boosters
have on programs. Which he says is more influential now
than ever before. He says, I'm not surprised there's been
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so many firings because everybody's raising money to pay players.
So the people that are giving the money think they
have a voice, and they're just a bunch of fans.
When they get frustrated and disappointed, they put pressure on
the athletic department to take act.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
That is the way of the world. So one, I guess,
do you guys agree with that notion? In two? Is
that a good thing? If it is true?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, I mean think about it. Like I said, I'm
use my own school. If I'm raising money and I'm
putting they're putting one hundred million dollars up to the nil,
of course you're gonna have a I have some say
so here, I mean you should have some say so.
You know. Nick Saban is one of those coaches that
said if the players shouldn't get players shouldn't get paid,
you know, And I always said, okay, if they shouldn't
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get paid, you shouldn't get paid either. You get to
coach for free. We'll give you free housing and that's it.
But just like the players, So, I mean, is it
fair I mean, look, you got to get the players.
I don't care who you are. If you don't got
the players, you can't win. That's just how It's gonna
be very rare that a coach or a school is
going to be able to win getting average players. It's
just said work. If you playing against the elite players
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in college football the Ohio States, at what point, the
Alabama's and not the Oregons. You know, you got to
get the players. That's like I gotta say, you know,
we're playing to get players. That's new, that's that's gonna
help us win.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, you have to establish that, first of all from
the beginning. If you you know, as as this is
relatively new, you know with the NIL program in the
last five five six years, you have to establish that
in the beginning because if you don't and you're just
asking you know, donors and boosters to just raise you
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one hundred million dollars and not have a voice, you're delusional.
Because they are going to have a voice because at
some point, if things don't go well, you're asking them
to buy out the coach that you want to fire.
So they're there. They are absolutely going to have a voice.
So it is the new reality of college football in
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college sports right now?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Isn't it pretty simple? And doesn't it work this way
in life? You know what I'm paying, You're gonna do
what I say, and pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That's that's right for it. That's a simple way I'm
spending my money. And I ain't got no soul saying
or don't work like that, buddy, that it don't work
like that.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, no, no, you don't get to make the decisions.
You can make the recommendations. You're convincing me to give
you money. Okay, I've given it to you, but now
nothing comes for free. There's gonna be something on the
other side, something on the back end, something that you're
gonna do for me. And this is what you're gonna
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do for me, make a move. If you don't do it,
I'm not giving you the money. So I would think
as an a d now you kind of have to
be like secretary of state. You have to be a
very good negotiator. You have to bring people together and
then keep them together well. And you got to let
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them know up front. Listen, I appreciate your money, but
we are in terms of internal how we hire our coaches,
how we do this. That is an internal decisions. You're
not going to have say, so, now do you still
want to donate, that's great, But if you don't understand that,
then we can't accept your money. And very few schools
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are going to say, well, push comes to shove, we're
not gonna take your money. But at school it's their
responsibility to say we are we are going to decide
who our head coach is, not necessarily you. But you
know what, Okay, what schools could do that, let's think
about it. Oregon could do that. Oregon could tell you
that one they got one guy that.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It says Phil Knight, allow us, allow us to run
our program the way we run our program, and if
you don't interfere, no one else will interfere.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Uh, I'll tell you what a school like Texas that
makes a lot of money. If the Boosters pulled the plug,
Steve Sarkiston would be done.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah. I hope, I hope they pulled the plug in
because no, I know you do. No guy's gonna lose
every game now that I think about it. What schools
around the country are immune from this? And quite honestly,
no one, very everyone's immune from it. No, they're not.
They're not immune from the fred. I mean, think about it, anybody.
(25:18):
If I'm listening, I'm giving you one hundred million dollars,
I'll give you a hundred dollars this year, and let's
say that next year, I'm gonna give you, say, seventy million,
I'll give you another hundred. How are you gonna tell
me I can't have any say that makes no sense,
That's that's stupid. I mean, that's like saying, uh, you
can come live in my house and I'm just gonna
pay all the bills and I'm and just living for free.
(25:40):
No way, you're gonna have some say. I'm gonna have
some saying this. If I'm giving you that kind of money,
I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a lot of say
I'm giving you a hundred million dollars. If I'm giving you,
you know, one hundred thousand something like that, then you
ain't got much say because that ain't that ain't that's
not that's not game changing. You're talking about game changing, right,
one hundred and fifty seventy that's game changing.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I gotta tell you, I'm stunned. I was just stunned
and we haven't really talked a lot about it. I
was stunned when Penn State blew off James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Stunned. Yeah, I was shocked about that too. I mean,
my god, they were last year.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I better have somebody coming in the door better because
he was winning ten games from for the last what.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Six seven years?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, yep, we know they didn't get over the hump
and they didn't win a national title. But if you're
you're in that conversation and in the playoffs, and they
would have been, you know, and they you know, under
the current format they be in for the last four
or five years. But you're winning nine, ten eleven games
for you on a regular basis. Whoever you bring in
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better be doing the same thing. But go ahead, but
wait in college football.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
In college football, you blow the guy out in the
middle of the year, and it's James Franklin because he
didn't meet the expectation of this season. There's no wiggle
room for a guy like that stretch. He had one
bad stretch right of games. There's no wiggle room for
a guy that has been that successful.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
What it sounds like from people from the outside, this
athletic director didn't hire him, and he was kind of
looking for an opening to be able to let James go.
And you guys, Eric and Rodney know how this how
this sort of things work with ads, and they have
their guys a lot of times. And unless he goes
in and he does win multiple national championships and makes
it really difficult for you to fire him. If there's
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any sort of sliver of an opening, guys will take advantage.
And it sounds like, at least according to outside sources,
that's what happened. You lost back to back to UCLA
and Northwestern as a twenty point favorite. Here's our opening
to do it right now.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Right if you're not my guy, and I get a
test to bring who I want. Like you said that
Ad has an idea who he wants to bring in,
and if you're not my guy, this is my opportunity
to get rid of him right now. I didn't want
him nowhere. I want to get good of him. I mean,
and Ford, have you ever been to Happy Valley? Have
you got not roder? You been a happy Vattley? Haven't you? Yeah?
(28:00):
It man, it ain't happy. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Nowhere. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's what I'm saying when I went out there to watch,
asking me, I'm like, how are they getting these athletes
out here? It's nowhere in the hair. They could trick
me out here. I'd be like, oh no, non, I'm good.
You got to drive two hours to Philadelphia, two hours
to some other place to get to the airport to
fly it. Luckily I flow on some of some our
alumnies jet. That's why we led the twenty minutes through
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the airport, you know, from a private airport. I'm like,
And another thing I think that, you know, I think
schools like Penn State, they probably figure we don't have
to We don't. We don't want to have to pay
that kind of money anymore. And you're gonna lose athletes
like that. God had athletes to wear.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And that's what's lighting up that line.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
All right, Kevin, Thank you, Kevin, exemplary job.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Seriously, thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Fred Hey, hey, Fred, Fred Fred Holk. I gotta, I gotta.
I read something here on the notes that that we
got to talk about. It was what a guy baked
his funeral. We got to talk about that all.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know what you want to do that, Eric, you
can we talk about him.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We'll come back. I want to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
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Now, come on, Ford NFL Spotlight. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan,
the Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson. We had something we've
been talking about, right, what's the deal?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Eric? You want to talk about this?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well? I saw it on the note, he said, A
man thank his own death just to see how many
people show up to his funeral.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Right, So here's the deal. Here's a new seventy four
year old man lives in India. He was wondering how
many people love me, how many people will feel sad
if I'm not here. He was an Air Force veteran
and he decided he wanted to find out who would
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respond to him, who would be there for him? Who
are his friends? So what he did is he faked
his own death. He faked his own death. He add
some of his relatives to help him spread the word
about his passing. And had other people take him to
the crematorium on a decorated beard to make the stunt believable.
(30:45):
So they took him alive to the crematorium as if
he was going to be cremated because he had died.
Then he wanted to see who would come to his funeral.
That's how he faked his own death.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, and they said a couple of hundred people showed
up for him, so he had some real friends. I
guess that's that's a little little fun. I mean when
you look it up for it, it's a lot of
people that have done that. One guy flew it on
a helicopter. Guy, I'm like, really, you just want to
see how many people like you or care about you,
to see who's gonna come to your funeral. I don't
you think that's.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Kind of odd? It is odd. Another thing that was
odd about.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Him, He's always he did a simple He went to
the crematorium and to set it up. I'm confused about
what he actually did.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
They took it to the but he was in the casket.
He popped up out of the casket. Then it just
seemed like he popped up out of the cast. Right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
That was another problem. So it was kind of backwards.
First they took him to the crematorium. Yeah, but then
they didn't cremate him. Then they put him in a casket.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Did he let it be known that they were taking
him to the crematorium.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
No, I think the word was spread. Okay, the word
was spread. He was going to the crematorium, but he
was in a casket. M So then people went to,
you know, I guess, pay their respects to him there,
and all of a sudden, he popped up in the casket.
He was alive, which freaked everybody out.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
People jumping over I mean, I've been jumping jumping over
the seats. You know, you know you're not black people.
There's something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They need.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Jumping over.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Up and then the behalf of them beat the beat
the hell out of him.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well here's the thing. But all's well.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
That ends well because after the mock funeral, people were stunned,
they were upset. He did organize a big feast for everyone.
It's kind of like at a funeral there was food,
except he wasn't dead.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Okay, I mean, that's that's a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Eric, you've told the story about when you've been in
funerals where people wanted to jump in the grave, things
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Oh yeah, I had, of course, that's black gnerals. That's
how they I mean. I'm telling you, man, I mean,
if if any of my black listeners are listening to this,
they know black people, be like, oh, put me in
the casket, read him. I just can't live without it.
Oh my god, or you know, he can't be gone,
he just can't be gone. They jump on there, jump
in the ground like I'll see him jump down in
(33:19):
the hole. Like okay, now I know you ain't trying
to be buried in this ground. It's not throwing some
dirt on you. You will come out. I mean, I
mean black dudles the thing. I mean, they're not it's
not funny, but they can be kind of comical. I'll
say that. I'll tell you my my grandfather. Tell my grandfather.
He goes to the field with my grandmother and uh,
(33:39):
he says, I didn't like the guy in no way, dick.
He said I didn't like him, and he said he
was he was, he was, he was a thief. And
my grandpa said, I just brought me a brand new
Cadillac and I had a diamond ring, A big, big
band diamond ring I just bought. He said. I know
all this folks was kind of you know, kind of
fetish too. So I'm shaking all their hands and my
ring is kind of loose. I'm shaking all their hands.
(34:00):
Then I get to the funeral, you know, walking behind
my wife, piaching my grandmother. He said, I will walk
up to the casket and I put my hand on
you know, you put your hands on the cast because
it looked down at the person. He said, I put
my hand on the casket, looked down at the person,
and I look at my ring. It's gone. He said.
I just fall out.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Oh Lord, must be what he said.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They're like, oh gosh, it's gonna be okay. He said.
I let him carry me. He said, get your hands
off me. I didn't like his ass. Somebody thole my ring.
I'm like, oh my god, paple horse. My grandfather was funny.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But you know that's that's pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
That's black. Oh my god, let's look to the black people.
I want to say something, Freddy, what you know what
I was looking at at? Uh? George Springer who plays
for the Blue The Blue Jay's right and then I
was looking at Freddy Freeman. Did you don't make they
look alike? Look at them, they look like they look
(34:56):
just alike. The I'm like, they could be brothers. I
mean because people looking when you, when you get a chance,
look at Freddy Freeman and look at George spring and
Timberday'll look alike.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm gonna look right now, but I don't think George
Springer has Freddy Freeman's teeth. No close, all right, I'm
gonna look right now George Springer and Freddie Freeman. Okay,
here's your Oh.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You have to admit it.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If you look at their player profile pictures. Yeah, there
was a little something there.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Oh yeah, they were brothers. I'm like, okay, I can
see the brother those are brothers. They look they look
they look alike. And I saw George Springing last I'm like, man,
he looks just like somebody. I'm like, wait a minute,
he looked like Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well, I see the resemblance. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm not thinking, but they do look alike. Kind of
you said thanks, If you said these are two brothers,
you'd be like, okay, I can see the resemblance because
the teeth kind of looking like too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, that's fair, Kevin.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Can you see that slightly? I mean Freddy's if they
got a beat with the teeth.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
But it's a little bit of similarity there.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah. Man, it's a lot of similarity. Yeah. When I
last on TV, I'm like, well, it's a lot of similarity.
I'm just just saying anyway, I had to say that, Well.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Freddy got a cheater, so he has that over Springer,
So I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, he played for Houston, didn't he.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Oh yeah, the MVP of that world.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah forget Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
People are gonna let him have it. Let him have
it here in Los Angeles, and it's well deserved.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Derek, Yeah, it is well deserved. I want to say
one more thing too. I guess if I got a
few minutes. Uh, we have some listeners that listen to
They called me all the time. Uh. I got to say,
my friend, you know, you know Frank Robinson, the great
base up there play for the Reds, France Robinson, his
wife Barbara Robinson, and Michelle Robinson. They always take everyone
you're gonna be on. We love having hearing your radio.
(36:46):
So I want to say thank you for being lay listeners.
Barbara and Michelle. You know I've known him for a
long time, so you know, thank you for listening. You know,
every Monday on Tuesday when I'm on. So I just
want to say thank you to them and all my listeners,
all the listeners to the coolest toes. I just say
thank you, thank all of.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You and the ones that come out to the desert
to see the Eric Dickerson Show with.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Us right exactly to the Eric Dickerson Show and watch
they would come out and watch free and eat. If
he just didn't eat up every day, no food left
for nobody.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Ronnie, welcome back. Thank you for today, Kevin. Great work,
uh Ed, always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
My friend, always good.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Take care guys, Rodney, see tomorrow, all right,
Oh yes, yes, we keep it moving on a Tuesday.
It is the.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
NFL Ford Spotlight, the Ford NFL Spotlight, the NFL Ford Spotlight,
the NFL Eric Dickerson Spotlight, however you want to call it.
It is the NFL Ford Spotlight with the Hall of
Famer Eric Dickerson, Rodney P. Fred Rogan on a Tuesday.
And we'll get into a little bit more Dodgers, obviously,
(00:27):
because that's that's the focal point this week as the
Dodgers get ready for the World Series this Friday, starting
in Toronto. As the Blue Jays won last night in
a four to three win over the Mariners. But e g,
let's go back to let's get back to the NFL man,
because I want to get your thoughts on here. We
are basically at the mid season point. I mean, I
(00:51):
think there's some teams that have played seven games. There's
teams that have played eight games. We're in the middle
of the thicket. And when I say the three local teams,
obviously I include the Raiders because the Rams, Chargers and
Raiders I think are our local teams here even though
they play in Vegas. But there's so many Raider fans
here in La. We got to include them as one
(01:12):
of our local teams. But let's start with let's start
on your thoughts on where the Chargers are ed at
this point in the season. There, they're four and three.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
They had an.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Impressive win to start the season against Kansas City and Brazil,
and everybody believe that this is the year Harboro had
one year under his belt, last year, a year under
his belt with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now this is the year that they.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Start turning it around or start to go in the
right direction, start to go up heel and Harball's that
coach that knows how to turn teams around and franchises
a round in a quick fashion. And it looked like
that when they went down there and beat Kansas City,
actually beat them pretty soundly.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And then people.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Believe that Kansas City was this was an end of
an era and that now there's going to be a
changing of the guard. But for the Chargers, it looked
like they had okay, they were ready and poised to
turn the corner and be that team of the AFC West.
But they've had some stumbles along the way, whether it
(02:21):
be you know, the Colts, the Commanders came in there
and beat them, you know soundly, you know at so far?
What do you make of the Chargers right now and
where they're at, even though they're four and three? How
do you feel about them? And how should you feel
if you're a Charger fan?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, I still say the Chargers have a good football team.
But the problem, not right now is and you've heard
me say this before, is that when you have starting
players out, their offensive line I think is decimated right now.
And when you have starting players out, it hurts your
football team badly. Like I always say, you got these
offensive linemen, I would call them your people say them
(03:02):
fat guys up front, you know, I say, yeah, them
Swisch new Skis and then you might not know their names.
But let me tell you something. Those guys are very
very important. I think the offensive line is decimated. They're
not running the ball very well. And you're asking justin
Herbert So on Sunday he threw the ball. Yes, he
threw the ball fifty five times. I think the week
before he threw it fifty times or forty times. You
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can't you can't sustain that. I mean, you have to
be able to mix run and pass, and you're rely
strictly on your quarterback, you know, to make something happen
every game, and your team is beat up, your defenses
is hurt, you can't stop anyone. You lose. I mean,
that's what it comes down to. When you don't have
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the starters, man, it makes a big difference. And I
think that is I think that's one of the main
problems with the Chargers right now, is that they have
a lot of people that are hurt, that are injured,
and they're putting the owners on Justin Herbert, which is
you know, yes, he's a superstar, but he he had
four hundred and twenty yards passing, but he had two picks,
three touchdowns, and you know, righty, well, is it them
(04:05):
pick them? Two picks hurt? They hurt a football team.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But getting is he getting a little bit of a
pass ed because other quarterbacks around the league. If if
a team like the Chargers, who was built up to
be this and that, and they're four and three and
had some ugly losses, and yes, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
He hasn't played well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I'm not I'm saying all of them, but he
hasn't played well in like three or four of these games.
Is he getting to pass as a guy that just
you know, people are letting get away with not being
that kind of franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, I don't think he's getting to pass. I think
when you got players hurt you. When you got your
when you got your starting offensive line, that's hurt. You know.
You can't be saying you're getting to pass because you
got you got guys out, So how do you get
a pass? I mean, now, if you've got your full
arstele of guys, well, let's just say you got eighty
percent of your team. No, you're not getting to pass.
You can't get a pass on that. But it's like Ron,
It's like you as a quarterback if you have your
(05:01):
your just starting tackle both just starting tackle as a
guard or a center out and you got you know,
say that you're not running the ball well and you
got one receiver, How well do you think he's gonna play?
I mean, what do you think you gon'll be able
to do? And you and you're playing against a team
that say not good, it's not gonna be good. And
that's to me what's happening with the Chargers right now.
They have a lot of injuries on office and defense,
(05:25):
and office expect the offensive line. I mean, I think
they're playing the backup to the backup. I mean, it's
only so much you can do. And like I said that,
they're not ranting the ball well at all. I mean
that if I'm a team, I'm like, hey, we're not
gonna let that quarter. We're not gonna let Justin Herbert
beat us. You know, we'll we'll give him the run,
but we're not giving the pass. We'll come here and
play Nickel.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But here's the problem with the charges and Justin Herbert
when you look at the big picture of it. Yeah,
they're banged up and they're struggling now, but still the
finger gets pointed to Justin Herbert, despite the fact that
life now, no one's arguing that, Eric, you're not the
guys on the lamb. But still in all the fingers
are being pointed at him, and therein lies the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yep, I agree with that, Fred, Like I said, when
you were when you're a superstar and the football team,
it's always your fault. It's like they dropped the punt.
We hell and we won the game. They would have
dropped that punt. I mean, how quarterback something like, But
he don't catch punts. He he don't catch punts. He
don't like, he don't play defense, he don't block. He's
a quarterback. You have to give you a protection. And
(06:28):
I get it. I make I say, when you're the
star player, you gonna get all the flat and then
when you plan you might not even be playing good.
But when you win it, you get all the praise too.
So it's a two way street. I'm just saying what
I see. That's what I see is the charges beat
up football team. And you know there's still four and three.
I mean, but they got they got manhandled by the Coats.
(06:48):
They really did. They got. They got beat up pretty good.
I mean it wasn't even a game. I mean they
looked like it was a game. We look at the underscore,
but it really wasn't that close.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think a bigger question is how the hell have
the Colt's done this this year?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I'm gonna tell you that building slowly, they've been building
a good football team, especially defensively. And I know stichen
Is is you know offensive guy that came from Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Man, but I think they have.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Created a culture there and have built a team. You know,
they had Jonathan Taylor who they drafted, who is flying
under the radar because I think he is. I don't
know what you think, Eric, but that cat is a
bad man. He is a great running back for them
that can carry the load if they need him to.
(07:40):
But I think they were handcuffed by the quarterbacks the
last few years and Anthony Richardson and trying to build
the team around him and it didn't work out. And
now they've got a guy in Daniel Jones who basically
is he is not making mistakes, he is playing sound
football within himself, within this system, making plays. He makes
(08:02):
four or five plays a game and allows that defense
to keep it close. And they've got some playmakers on
the outside as well. And then they can turn around
and had that ball off to Jonathan Taylor thirty times.
They've got a recipe for success and and they're doing
it well, and they've they've they've built it, you know,
kind of the right way where they and it's a
(08:26):
good young team too, and they're playing with a lot
of confidence right now. So you know, it all depends
on where you are and what the status is and
what's around you. Daniel Jones now doesn't have to carry
the load. Like when he was in New York. You know,
everything felled on him, fell on him, and and and
even though you know, Brian David, I think he's a
good offensive mine. They didn't have all of the uh,
(08:50):
the weapons or at least the personnel like they have
in in Indianapolis. They had Saquon, but they didn't have
an offensive line. Even Saquon struggled and New York because
of the offensive line. And so now he doesn't have
to you know, you know, in here and then and
receive and take all the pressure like he did in
(09:10):
New York. Now he can just go out and play
and play within the system. So they're a good team.
They really are. They're not fools goal. I think the
Colts are for real.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I agree with you. I mean, and like I said,
I'm not a Colts fan, I play for that team,
but I have to agree right there. I mean, Daniel
Jones is playing some good football. I mean he had
two hundred and eighty eight yards passing the other day,
two touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor had sixteen character ninety four yards.
But I'm gonna tell you it's just the dominance that
they're doing it in. I mean, he almost averaged six
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yards to carry. I mean their receiving court is good.
I mean they've got pitman, they've got piers, they got
warn of the tight end. I mean, and they're spread
the ball around. I mean they really spread it around well.
And the defense is good. And I think that one
thing that when I watched that game, when I did
see I'm like, man, look at some of these holes
that office in line is knocking over. Offensive line is
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doing that. They doing their job. I mean. So when
they came to play the Rams, I said, hey, man,
this is gonna be a tough game. I said, I
think the Colts are for real because I think before
when they played the Rams, they had on the planet
one time.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, that's what I mean, thinking about it, that's a
game they should have won too.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's the game they should have won, right, But that's
the losers always say that we should.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, well, the eighty yard touchdown pass otherwise you
know they win that game. But you're right, you know,
you can't. You can't allow that to happen if you're
a good team.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yep.
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the Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson on the Ford NFL Spotlight.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Come on, all right, let's find.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Out what's going on in the past two hours? Fired
up Kevin?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
All right, guys, So always, as we know, the Raiders
are pretty terrible these days again. Got shut out against
Kansas City on Sunday. They had like I think the
Kansas City Chiefs had more first downs than the Raiders
actually had in plays run or offense or whatever it was.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
It was pretty ugly.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Now we know their best players on defense, Max Crosby,
and he has openly looked frustrated at these last couple
of weeks, And how could you blame him? So I
saw this from Trey Wingo used to cover the NFL
for ESPN. Now he's doing it independently. He says, according
to his sources, the Dallas Cowboys, who are in need
of pass rusher if only they had one coming into
the season, have actually made inquiries to the Raiders about
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potentially trading for Max Crosby.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
So I guess it's a two prong question for my
two nflers here. So if you are the Raiders, you
clearly know you're not going anywhere. You have one of
the best defensive players in the league. You can probably
get a decent haul for him.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Do you hold on and try to see if he's
gonna be an important part if you're rebuilt, or do
you try to trade him to the Dallas Cowboys and
try to recoup and get some more draft picks and
start to rebuild.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
I guess I'll start with you, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Oh, I think you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, I think it's in play certainly, and if
you can get the world for Max Crosby, then you
try to do it. Think about it. I mean, it's
Pete Curle's first year there.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They thought that this was going to be an immediate
turnaround or not, or what their thought process was that
we need to rebuild this team and it's going to
take us three to four years to do that. If
that's the case, then yeah, you pull the trigger and
see if you can. If you can get multiple picks
and some players for Max Crosby, obviously he's top three
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to five pass rushers in the league, try to get
as much as you can for him. And I think
you can ask for the world. If you don't get it,
you don't get it. But I don't think you certainly
are aggressively trying to get rid of Max and take
whatever you try to get what you can and if
you can get a boat load, why not.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I agree with Rodney. I agree with Rodney with that.
I mean, I like Max Crosby. I think he's a
true Raider. But man, it's sad to watch a great
player on a bad football team. It really is, because
he's such a great player and he deserves better than that.
And it is right if this is a building year
of this is building for the Raiders, like three or
four years, you give him a chance to go somewhere
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and possibly have a chance to theyre not going to
super Bowl in Dallas. But at least play on a
team that's really really competitive with some other players. And
if you can get let's say you can get a
first round to two first rounds for him, a first
round or second round.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think you do that deal. Well, I'll tell you something.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I think in any situation, you want to win now,
but you want to get a better long term, all right,
and you have to make tough decisions. So Max Crosby,
he's a great player, and he's gonna help somebody. He's
gonna help somebody. Is he helping you more than getting
those picks? Probably not, because you've got to do something
to rebuild. It's the definition of insanity. We're just gonna
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stay the way we are, Okay. Well, if that's the case,
nothing's going to change. I know it's tough to trade
away a great player. Eric Dickerson was a great player,
and you should never trade away the greats. Now the
Rams traded Eric, did they get better?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No? Not really.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
But if the Raiders believe they can in doing so,
then I think they should do it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It talks about this yesterday with Bob Nightingale about the
Angels managerial position. Albert Poohols has fallen off. He was
deemed the front runner as of last week, and Kurtzuzuki
was seen as Torri with Tory Hunter as two of
the front runners. Two guys are inside the Angel organization
as an assistance to the journal manager Perry Manazien. The
Angels that officially announced earlier today that Kurtzuzuki, who just
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retired a couple of years ago, by the way, and
has no coaching experience whatsoever, is going to be the
new manager of the Angels.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
That doing anything for you. Fred.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
First of all, congratulations to Kurtsuzuki. Seriously, it is an
accomplishment to become a major league manager or an NFL coach,
or an NBA coach, NHL coach. That is incredible. Obviously
they believe he has the skill set. So we say
congratulations to him. Will also say condolences because he's got
no shot.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
To win none. Now.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
In these situations, oftentimes, oftentimes somebody gets an opportunity and
really does make the most of it. Here's the problem
he's up against, Kevin. He's not gonna have the resources.
That's his problem. You could be the greatest manager in
the world. We put Dave Roberts with the success in
his head with the Dodgers in Anaheim, is he going
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to have that kind of success.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
If you put Aaron Boone from the Yankees, is he
going to have that success?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
No? No.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
If we took Terry Francona, who had a very good
year with the Reds and put him in Anaheim, would
he have that kind of success? No, No, because you
can't because it is virtually impossible for you to achieve
that because of the environment. It's great to be a
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major league manager, but I think Kurtzuzuki will quickly learn
that it's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not that much fun some days.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, it's like they say, when you're gambling, all money
not good money.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Don't always take it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And yes, it's a great opportunity for Kurt Suzuki and
you know, becoming a manager, But all the situations are
not great situations if you don't have the resources.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I don't care who you put in there. Look, they
brought in Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Madden, who I believe over the last thirty years, Joe
Madden many people would believe is one of the best,
you know, managers, culture builders in baseball, and they couldn't
make it work with him. And obviously it didn't end well.
And then Ron Washington obviously had the health issues. But
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Ron Washington also took the Rangers the two World Series,
and so it just the culture has to change before
anybody could be successful as a manager in Anaheim. So
until that happens, I feel for Kurt. Good for you.
You got a job, new manager, first time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Great. But to win there, to help Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Battle, well, let me ask. First of all, I didn't
know Chris zuki Is. I've never heard of him. So
he played baseball or whatever. I don't know you I know.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Wait, he was a fundamentally Kevin Is this fair? He
was a fundamentally sound catcher.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
He was a very good catcher, good defensive catcher, well
respected in the cup house. He had the mentality of
someone who think could be a manager eventually. So okay
that part.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Of okay, okay, well, good good for him. But you
said it, best friend. I mean, if you ain't got
the resources and the money, uh, you're not gonna win
and you can't get the players. It's impossible. That's in
any sport. I told somebody when they were talking about
what's his name, Satan Nick Saban a great coach. I said,
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I'll tell you what. Let Nick Saban go to s
m U. Well this is ten years ago, and see
if he could win with the talent we got. If
you don't have the talent and the players and the
money to go with it, I don't Jesus couldn't go
down there and win. That's what it like that. So
I guess I'm happy for him that he has a
job as a manager, But in a sense I feel
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bad for him too.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Roddie, what do you always say about a guy when
he's picked in the NFL draft? You know, a guy
gets picked as a quarterback, he's going to a bad team.
So right off the bat, if he's picked early, his
chance for success isn't very good. It's where you go.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, if you're a number one pick in the draft,
oftentimes you're going to a bad team.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Cam Ward is figuring that out, you know, as the
number one picking the draft in Tennessee, he's going through
his struggles. Tennessee has been a bad team for the
last three years. You know, and even Trevor Lawrence back
in the day, who was the everybody believe was the
can't miss, you know, behind John Elway coming out in
eighty three, Trevor Lawrence was the most talented, the best
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quarterback coming out in the draft since Elway and then Jacksonville.
You can't do it all yourself, and it's been a
struggle for him.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It definitely depends on where you go.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
And it's the same thing with the manager in baseball,
and Eric's right, if you don't have the talent, you
don't have the resources to build that talent. I don't
care how great you are, you're not gonna win. You
can bring back Tommy Lasorda and have him coached the
Angels and they're still not gonna wins.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The example justin Herbert we were talking about if you
ain't got the play, it ain't own him, but you
look at him, you don't have it. A nice little
team over that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
But you know, Eric, you brought up Nick Saban a
second ago. He's now an analyst for ESPN, and he
was talking about all these firings. There's been nine in
season firings at FBS level schools so far this season,
and he says it has less to do with performance,
although partially more to do about the influence that boosters
have on programs. Which he says is more influential now
than ever before. He says, I'm not surprised there's been
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so many firings because everybody's raising money to pay players.
So the people that are giving the money think they
have a voice, and they're just a bunch of fans.
When they get frustrated and disappointed, they put pressure on
the athletic department to take act.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
That is the way of the world. So one, I guess,
do you guys agree with that notion? In two? Is
that a good thing? If it is true?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, I mean think about it. Like I said, I'm
use my own school. If I'm raising money and I'm
putting they're putting one hundred million dollars up to the nil,
of course you're gonna have a I have some say
so here, I mean you should have some say so.
You know. Nick Saban is one of those coaches that
said if the players shouldn't get players shouldn't get paid,
you know, And I always said, okay, if they shouldn't
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get paid, you shouldn't get paid either. You get to
coach for free. We'll give you free housing and that's it.
But just like the players, So, I mean, is it
fair I mean, look, you got to get the players.
I don't care who you are. If you don't got
the players, you can't win. That's just how It's gonna
be very rare that a coach or a school is
going to be able to win getting average players. It's
just said work. If you playing against the elite players
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in college football the Ohio States, at what point, the
Alabama's and not the Oregons. You know, you got to
get the players. That's like I gotta say, you know,
we're playing to get players. That's new, that's that's gonna
help us win.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, you have to establish that, first of all from
the beginning. If you you know, as as this is
relatively new, you know with the NIL program in the
last five five six years, you have to establish that
in the beginning because if you don't and you're just
asking you know, donors and boosters to just raise you
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one hundred million dollars and not have a voice, you're delusional.
Because they are going to have a voice because at
some point, if things don't go well, you're asking them
to buy out the coach that you want to fire.
So they're there. They are absolutely going to have a voice.
So it is the new reality of college football in
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college sports right now?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Isn't it pretty simple? And doesn't it work this way
in life? You know what I'm paying, You're gonna do
what I say, and pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That's that's right for it. That's a simple way I'm
spending my money. And I ain't got no soul saying
or don't work like that, buddy, that it don't work
like that.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, no, no, you don't get to make the decisions.
You can make the recommendations. You're convincing me to give
you money. Okay, I've given it to you, but now
nothing comes for free. There's gonna be something on the
other side, something on the back end, something that you're
gonna do for me. And this is what you're gonna
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do for me, make a move. If you don't do it,
I'm not giving you the money. So I would think
as an a d now you kind of have to
be like secretary of state. You have to be a
very good negotiator. You have to bring people together and
then keep them together well. And you got to let
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them know up front. Listen, I appreciate your money, but
we are in terms of internal how we hire our coaches,
how we do this. That is an internal decisions. You're
not going to have say, so, now do you still
want to donate, that's great, But if you don't understand that,
then we can't accept your money. And very few schools
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are going to say, well, push comes to shove, we're
not gonna take your money. But at school it's their
responsibility to say we are we are going to decide
who our head coach is, not necessarily you. But you
know what, Okay, what schools could do that, let's think
about it. Oregon could do that. Oregon could tell you
that one they got one guy that.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It says Phil Knight, allow us, allow us to run
our program the way we run our program, and if
you don't interfere, no one else will interfere.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Uh, I'll tell you what a school like Texas that
makes a lot of money. If the Boosters pulled the plug,
Steve Sarkiston would be done.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah. I hope, I hope they pulled the plug in
because no, I know you do. No guy's gonna lose
every game now that I think about it. What schools
around the country are immune from this? And quite honestly,
no one, very everyone's immune from it. No, they're not.
They're not immune from the fred. I mean, think about it, anybody.
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If I'm listening, I'm giving you one hundred million dollars,
I'll give you a hundred dollars this year, and let's
say that next year, I'm gonna give you, say, seventy million,
I'll give you another hundred. How are you gonna tell
me I can't have any say that makes no sense,
That's that's stupid. I mean, that's like saying, uh, you
can come live in my house and I'm just gonna
pay all the bills and I'm and just living for free.
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No way, you're gonna have some say. I'm gonna have
some saying this. If I'm giving you that kind of money,
I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a lot of say
I'm giving you a hundred million dollars. If I'm giving you,
you know, one hundred thousand something like that, then you
ain't got much say because that ain't that ain't that's
not that's not game changing. You're talking about game changing, right,
one hundred and fifty seventy that's game changing.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I gotta tell you, I'm stunned. I was just stunned
and we haven't really talked a lot about it. I
was stunned when Penn State blew off James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Stunned. Yeah, I was shocked about that too. I mean,
my god, they were last year.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I better have somebody coming in the door better because
he was winning ten games from for the last what.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Six seven years?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, yep, we know they didn't get over the hump
and they didn't win a national title. But if you're
you're in that conversation and in the playoffs, and they
would have been, you know, and they you know, under
the current format they be in for the last four
or five years. But you're winning nine, ten eleven games
for you on a regular basis. Whoever you bring in
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better be doing the same thing. But go ahead, but
wait in college football.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
In college football, you blow the guy out in the
middle of the year, and it's James Franklin because he
didn't meet the expectation of this season. There's no wiggle
room for a guy like that stretch. He had one
bad stretch right of games. There's no wiggle room for
a guy that has been that successful.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
What it sounds like from people from the outside, this
athletic director didn't hire him, and he was kind of
looking for an opening to be able to let James go.
And you guys, Eric and Rodney know how this how
this sort of things work with ads, and they have
their guys a lot of times. And unless he goes
in and he does win multiple national championships and makes
it really difficult for you to fire him. If there's
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any sort of sliver of an opening, guys will take advantage.
And it sounds like, at least according to outside sources,
that's what happened. You lost back to back to UCLA
and Northwestern as a twenty point favorite. Here's our opening
to do it right now.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Right if you're not my guy, and I get a
test to bring who I want. Like you said that
Ad has an idea who he wants to bring in,
and if you're not my guy, this is my opportunity
to get rid of him right now. I didn't want
him nowhere. I want to get good of him. I mean,
and Ford, have you ever been to Happy Valley? Have
you got not roder? You been a happy Vattley? Haven't you? Yeah?
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It man, it ain't happy. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Nowhere. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's what I'm saying when I went out there to watch,
asking me, I'm like, how are they getting these athletes
out here? It's nowhere in the hair. They could trick
me out here. I'd be like, oh no, non, I'm good.
You got to drive two hours to Philadelphia, two hours
to some other place to get to the airport to
fly it. Luckily I flow on some of some our
alumnies jet. That's why we led the twenty minutes through
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the airport, you know, from a private airport. I'm like,
And another thing I think that, you know, I think
schools like Penn State, they probably figure we don't have
to We don't. We don't want to have to pay
that kind of money anymore. And you're gonna lose athletes
like that. God had athletes to wear.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
And that's what's lighting up that line.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
All right, Kevin, Thank you, Kevin, exemplary job.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Seriously, thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Fred Hey, hey, Fred, Fred Fred Holk. I gotta, I gotta.
I read something here on the notes that that we
got to talk about. It was what a guy baked
his funeral. We got to talk about that all.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know what you want to do that, Eric, you
can we talk about him.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We'll come back. I want to talk about that.
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Now, come on, Ford NFL Spotlight. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan,
the Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson. We had something we've
been talking about, right, what's the deal?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Eric? You want to talk about this?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well? I saw it on the note, he said, A
man thank his own death just to see how many
people show up to his funeral.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Right, So here's the deal. Here's a new seventy four
year old man lives in India. He was wondering how
many people love me, how many people will feel sad
if I'm not here. He was an Air Force veteran
and he decided he wanted to find out who would
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respond to him, who would be there for him? Who
are his friends? So what he did is he faked
his own death. He faked his own death. He add
some of his relatives to help him spread the word
about his passing. And had other people take him to
the crematorium on a decorated beard to make the stunt believable.
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So they took him alive to the crematorium as if
he was going to be cremated because he had died.
Then he wanted to see who would come to his funeral.
That's how he faked his own death.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, and they said a couple of hundred people showed
up for him, so he had some real friends. I
guess that's that's a little little fun. I mean when
you look it up for it, it's a lot of
people that have done that. One guy flew it on
a helicopter. Guy, I'm like, really, you just want to
see how many people like you or care about you,
to see who's gonna come to your funeral. I don't
you think that's.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Kind of odd? It is odd. Another thing that was
odd about.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Him, He's always he did a simple He went to
the crematorium and to set it up. I'm confused about
what he actually did.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
They took it to the but he was in the casket.
He popped up out of the casket. Then it just
seemed like he popped up out of the cast. Right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
That was another problem. So it was kind of backwards.
First they took him to the crematorium. Yeah, but then
they didn't cremate him. Then they put him in a casket.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Did he let it be known that they were taking
him to the crematorium.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
No, I think the word was spread. Okay, the word
was spread. He was going to the crematorium, but he
was in a casket. M So then people went to,
you know, I guess, pay their respects to him there,
and all of a sudden, he popped up in the casket.
He was alive, which freaked everybody out.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
People jumping over I mean, I've been jumping jumping over
the seats. You know, you know you're not black people.
There's something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They need.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Jumping over.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Up and then the behalf of them beat the beat
the hell out of him.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well here's the thing. But all's well.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
That ends well because after the mock funeral, people were stunned,
they were upset. He did organize a big feast for everyone.
It's kind of like at a funeral there was food,
except he wasn't dead.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Okay, I mean, that's that's a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Eric, you've told the story about when you've been in
funerals where people wanted to jump in the grave, things
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Oh yeah, I had, of course, that's black gnerals. That's
how they I mean. I'm telling you, man, I mean,
if if any of my black listeners are listening to this,
they know black people, be like, oh, put me in
the casket, read him. I just can't live without it.
Oh my god, or you know, he can't be gone,
he just can't be gone. They jump on there, jump
in the ground like I'll see him jump down in
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the hole. Like okay, now I know you ain't trying
to be buried in this ground. It's not throwing some
dirt on you. You will come out. I mean, I
mean black dudles the thing. I mean, they're not it's
not funny, but they can be kind of comical. I'll
say that. I'll tell you my my grandfather. Tell my grandfather.
He goes to the field with my grandmother and uh,
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he says, I didn't like the guy in no way, dick.
He said I didn't like him, and he said he
was he was, he was, he was a thief. And
my grandpa said, I just brought me a brand new
Cadillac and I had a diamond ring, A big, big
band diamond ring I just bought. He said. I know
all this folks was kind of you know, kind of
fetish too. So I'm shaking all their hands and my
ring is kind of loose. I'm shaking all their hands.
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Then I get to the funeral, you know, walking behind
my wife, piaching my grandmother. He said, I will walk
up to the casket and I put my hand on
you know, you put your hands on the cast because
it looked down at the person. He said, I put
my hand on the casket, looked down at the person,
and I look at my ring. It's gone. He said.
I just fall out.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Oh Lord, must be what he said.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
They're like, oh gosh, it's gonna be okay. He said.
I let him carry me. He said, get your hands
off me. I didn't like his ass. Somebody thole my ring.
I'm like, oh my god, paple horse. My grandfather was funny.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But you know that's that's pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
That's black. Oh my god, let's look to the black people.
I want to say something, Freddy, what you know what
I was looking at at? Uh? George Springer who plays
for the Blue The Blue Jay's right and then I
was looking at Freddy Freeman. Did you don't make they
look alike? Look at them, they look like they look
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just alike. The I'm like, they could be brothers. I
mean because people looking when you, when you get a chance,
look at Freddy Freeman and look at George spring and
Timberday'll look alike.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm gonna look right now, but I don't think George
Springer has Freddy Freeman's teeth. No close, all right, I'm
gonna look right now George Springer and Freddie Freeman. Okay,
here's your Oh.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You have to admit it.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
If you look at their player profile pictures. Yeah, there
was a little something there.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Oh yeah, they were brothers. I'm like, okay, I can
see the brother those are brothers. They look they look
they look alike. And I saw George Springing last I'm like, man,
he looks just like somebody. I'm like, wait a minute,
he looked like Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well, I see the resemblance. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm not thinking, but they do look alike. Kind of
you said thanks, If you said these are two brothers,
you'd be like, okay, I can see the resemblance because
the teeth kind of looking like too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, that's fair, Kevin.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Can you see that slightly? I mean Freddy's if they
got a beat with the teeth.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
But it's a little bit of similarity there.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah. Man, it's a lot of similarity. Yeah. When I
last on TV, I'm like, well, it's a lot of similarity.
I'm just just saying anyway, I had to say that, Well.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Freddy got a cheater, so he has that over Springer,
So I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, he played for Houston, didn't he.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Oh yeah, the MVP of that world.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah forget Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
People are gonna let him have it. Let him have
it here in Los Angeles, and it's well deserved.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Derek, Yeah, it is well deserved. I want to say
one more thing too. I guess if I got a
few minutes. Uh, we have some listeners that listen to
They called me all the time. Uh. I got to say,
my friend, you know, you know Frank Robinson, the great
base up there play for the Reds, France Robinson, his
wife Barbara Robinson, and Michelle Robinson. They always take everyone
you're gonna be on. We love having hearing your radio.
(36:46):
So I want to say thank you for being lay listeners.
Barbara and Michelle. You know I've known him for a
long time, so you know, thank you for listening. You know,
every Monday on Tuesday when I'm on. So I just
want to say thank you to them and all my listeners,
all the listeners to the coolest toes. I just say
thank you, thank all of.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You and the ones that come out to the desert
to see the Eric Dickerson Show with.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Us right exactly to the Eric Dickerson Show and watch
they would come out and watch free and eat. If
he just didn't eat up every day, no food left
for nobody.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Ronnie, welcome back. Thank you for today, Kevin. Great work,
uh Ed, always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
My friend, always good.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Take care guys, Rodney, see tomorrow, all right,
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