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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right here we go live from Dodger Stadium. Fred Rogan,
Rodney Pete on a five seventy LA Sports getting ready
now for Game five of the World Series. It is
even and now Rodney becomes a best of three.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, yes, did you think anything differently, Fred, Yes, you did.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah. I thought the Dodgers would win in five.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Ooh yeah, so I'm I'm already knocked back on my
heels a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
A little bit. I thought they'd win in five.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Uh. It's interesting. We were out here on Monday. This
place was jam packed. I mean at this time, it
was if you could not get a spot, if you
were the media. There were people everywhere yesterday, and you think, well,
they'd gone eighteen.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Innings Monday, nine innings.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Nobody got any sleep, right, you know it's gonna be
it's gonna be a little thin. Yesterday we felt that coming. Yeah,
and it was thinner yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Today it looks like they're playing Saint Louis in August.
I mean, it looks like what it would look like
during the regular season on a Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
There's basically no one here.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I mean there are people, but nothing like it was
the first day, where'd everybody go, eh, I think they're
all catching their breath, to be honest with you, No,
it's look, it's a and you get opening day.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
In La.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Obviously, they played the first two in Toronto, so I'm
sure it was jam packed in Toronto as getting ready
for this series, and then the first game here in La.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It is La.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's Hollywood, all the things, all the media, not only
you get the you know, the local media, but the
international media coming here. So it was jam packed on Monday.
But it was crazy, though, Fred to the point where
they were here before we even got here. And we
start at noon, but we usually are here around ten, ten,
ten thirty, and they were out here in full force.
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Now here we are on Wednesday at game five, and
it is not even close. I would say there's probably
ten percent of the people that were here on No. Really,
it looks like a regular season game, a seven h
five start, and this is what the media looks like,
wandering out on the field before the game.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Look, baseball fans thought this would be a tough series,
and now it's going to go six games a minimum.
I thought it would go five. But the one thing
I didn't expect is the Dodgers' inability to hit, and
that has caused a real problem last night. The problem
is if you're Otani, you've got to go eight innings
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and you've got to hold people.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, there's just no nowhere to.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Go, and the Dodgers need to hit to keep their
pitchers in the game.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So Otani looked fine last night. Was he great?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Was he really solid? Yes? Did he pitch well enough
to win? Sure? Sure? Did he leave? He left with
was what two to one? Yeah? Two one? He went
seven or six and that third.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
To the seventh, he allowed the first two and the
seventh to get on and that's when we took them
out with are he owns those two runners on base?
But the score was two to one when he came
out of the game, right, and he got you into
the seventh inn he pitched well enough to win?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, okay, And then of course the arson squad was
called in. You know, we welcome Anthony Bonda in and
we know how that went. And then to add insult
to injury, the man whose leaf must have fallen off
the trust tree at this point like trying it and
he just you can't put him back in he's Tanner Scott.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Stop he is Tanner Scott. Do we hate him as
a human being? No? Is Tanner Scott on the roster. No,
he's not even on the roster.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They didn't even put him on the roster, right, which
was wise. And now you keep him and he is
getting just lit. I mean, he cannot go back into
the game. And with the trust tree enough, you cannot
put him back in.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And you go, who were we gonna put in?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know, maybe Mark Pryor should go pitch just
a pitching coach, but you can't put in Blake trying it?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Where to that point? Yeah? Okay, so we're there, Rodney Bonda,
he's been lost as confidence. Yeah, he's getting hit.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, okay, so even lefties are killing him, right, Whereas
that's when they bring him in is to go lefty
on lefty. And throughout most of the season he was
extremely effective. You know, Bonda came in and did a
great job. He had moments and stretches, I think at
the end where he struggled a little bit, but for
the most part he was He was a very dependable.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Guy coming out of that pen.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know, I would say, obviously Alex Vesia was the most dependable,
but Bonda was right there. And then I think towards
the end of season, I don't know if it was
fatigue or whatever, he started to fade a little bit.
But in these playoffs he has been extremely hitt able.
WHI is not good for the Dodgers?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, no, what would you bring him in to shut
it down? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, so really he's struggling. I don't know if you
can put him back in.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I know you can't be where you put it back in,
though you got to go trying in or Bonda.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'm not putting trying in under any stand.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Trying is done in your book. He can't come back
in the rest of the series. No, he's done. Yeah,
we've seen his body of war. Unless you got to
eat up innings at the end of a game and
you're up up eight or you're down eight, and is
that going to happen in this Probably not right.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So I think he's done. Uh, Bonda, I don't think
you can put.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Back in, not in a leverage situation or even a
low leverage certainly not a high leverage. But I just
he's got to be used very strategically and with a
short lease, which is not good.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
This guy coming out of the pen. Okay, so you
have that issue. There's a real problem there. Let's talk
about another problem and enough with Andy. Pa has enough
and he critical during the regular season, plays great defense.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean, he's hitting like sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He cannot be in and I don't know why that
doesn't seem abundantly obvious. And I don't care if they're
winning every game, he shouldn't be in. A guy hitting
like that would be sent to the miners if it
was a regular season and you have him, you'll roll
him out there every night.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's not working. Somebody else has to be there.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And what we're finding is Pa Haz is doing just
a horrific job of being the leadoff hitter for Otani.
Yeah right, Pa Haz needs to get on base. Pie
Haz needs to make something happen. He's affecting Otani and
Otani's not hitting that mon. I mean, you know, Otani
has a monster game and then cools off, but he's
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not getting any help any way you look at it.
That number nine guy is you got to get on base,
make life difficult, and Piz is an.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Automatic out at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So I don't understand why they keep running him out there.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I think part of it is both ways, right,
because he is defensively their best center fielder, So I
think part of that factors into it. And I don't
know if you change, maybe you change the order and
not have him hit ninth. Maybe you have him hit
eighth or seven, so he's not hitting right in front
of of Otani. Maybe you put Kik and let Kik
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hit ninth or eighth or excuse me, ninth, because you're
right right now, Piz is an automatic out at the play.
He's not having any good at bats and at least
make the picture work. And you look at the other
side and you look in at Toronto, they're five through
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nine hitters. They are productive. And I'm not just talking
about productive in terms of hits. I'm talking about productive
at bats. They're making a picture work, they're putting a
picture on stress levels. They're taking him to seven, eight,
nine pitches per bat. Then they're they're putting the ball
in play. Right now, Pyas is not even putting the
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ball in play ninety percent of the time. And you know,
putting the ball in play is the big deal, because
you got to you gotta force the defense to make
a play. He's not even doing that, and that becomes
a huge, huge issue because the attitude when somebody's on
base as Otani comes up becomes a different mentality for
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a pitcher and even a team knowing that Otani's up
with the runner on base, how do I pitch him now?
As opposed to there's one out, nobody on bass Otani,
I can pitch around him. I just put him on,
put him on intentional walk or unintentional walk, but I'm
not giving him anything good to hit.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You understand, if pi has gets on first base and
they walk Otani, the Dodgers have a runner in scoring
position every single time. Just look at it like that
when you try to figure out why is it so
important for Piez to get on Because when they walk
o Tani, you have a Dodger in scoring position immediately.
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That's why it's so important that pie has get on base.
That has to change tonight, And there are a lot
of different ways you could look at it. I said
the other day, and I think you guys saw what's
wrong with me. I'd put Kim in at second base
and move Edmund to the outfield. That's what I would do,
because hitting ninth, maybe Kim could even.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Bunt his way on.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He's certainly fast enough to get on I know he's
not had any add bats, but he's a defensive wizard,
so he's not going to hurt you defensively. Yeah, maybe
let him get there and try to get on base.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Just get on base, whether it be having a making
the pitcher work a little bit. I mean, pie Is
is right now, he's so in his head, I think,
and so far has no confidence at the plate that
he's swinging at so many bad pitches out of the
zone that he's putting himself every time it Key comes up,
doesn't it feel like he's O two.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, it feels like it's O two or.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
One two, And at a blink of an eye and
next thing you know, he's swinging out a pitch that's
three or four inches off the plate and it's strike
three and it's one out Otani comes up. You know,
it's almost like I hate to say this, but it
felt like last night that they're they're playing Michael Boublay.
Before Podas strikes out or gets out before it's like
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there's two strikes on Piez and all of a sudden,
here comes Michael Bubla plays just getting walking back. Get
his walk up son ready. I hate to say that,
but that's what it feels like. It's like, Man, they're
playing that a little early.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Aren't they. But y'all it is. It's a bad deal
and they're not getting anything.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And except for maybe occasional hit from Kik, there getting
anything really out of a six through nine or five
through nine.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh, well, look at Mookie. He's hitting one forty seven
over his last eight games. He's three for nineteen in
the World Series. Yeah, he's struggling. He's struggling. Months he's
three for seventeen in the World Shot two.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh. The Dodgers are hitting two fourteen in the series,
and that's not gonna get it done. It's amazing that
they are too two at this point. You know, I
don't care what kind of starting pitching you have. If
you're not hitting the ball and you're hitting two fourteen
as a team, you're not gonna win the World Series.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You're just not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And it's not only just a two fourteen thread. It
is the quality of the advats. You look on the
other side, and yes, they they are they're hitting the ball,
their guys are getting hits, but they are making our
pitchers work.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
They're grinding them.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They're grinding them, which is what used to be the
formula for the Dodgers, which they did to opposing teams.
It is they they would work those pitchers so bad
by the fourth inning that pitch count was up in
around sixty or seventy already, and other teams, this team
Toronto is what they were known for all season long,
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is doing it to the Dodgers. And the Dodgers got
to figure out a way to make the opposing pitching staff,
especially the starting pitchers, work and get into that bullpen sooner.
But right now, they're not getting anything out of the
bottom of that lineup. And we said this all season long.
That was an issue for most of the season too.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well, in I believe the Milwaukee series, I think it
was Milwaukee, the bottom half of the lineup was hitting
and the top half wasn't. Yeah, well, now nobody's hitting, right,
That's what it's come down to. Nobody's hitting. Now that's
got to change tonight. Now, you were here last night,
you know you missed Monday's eighteen inning marathon, and you
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probably were glad you did, because it took everybody a
day to recover. Maybe the Dodgers were just hungover from
Monday night, but certainly the Blue Jays were.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Okay, what was it here? Like? It was very calm,
very melancholy.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It was just you know, after Vladde Junior hit the
home run, from that point on, it was just very
and I don't I don't know if the crowd felt
the effects of the night before as well, because it
was not the same energy you remember that night before
you were here. There was energy all the way through
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eighteen innings. I mean people were standing from the fourteenth
to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteenth inning.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Uh. Yeah, last night it was very, very dull.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And I think that he Garrell took the crowd out
of it early in the ballgame and and could Dodgers
could never recover because there was no excitement. There was
nothing to give them a feel of we're coming right
back on this thing, whereas the other two games or
the other three, the Dodgers made a go of it
and took the lead or tied it up and just
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kept going and grinding it, and you knew it was
going to come down to the eighth and ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It didn't feel that way yesterday.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Can you point because you were in the crowd, can
you point a finger at the crowd and say you
didn't give the players to.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Enough last Oh? No, it's not the crowd's fault.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, the players got to give the crowd the energy
to stand up and to cheer. You know, there is
just and you know, the crowd here, it's not like
certain there are crowds that are going to stand in
cheer no matter what, no matter what the situation is.
But for the most part, if the players, if the
game is not being conducive for a crowd to get excited,
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then the crowd's not going to get excited. I don't
care where you are, and certainly not here in La
and at Dodger Stadium. You've got to give that excitement
to the crowd or get them, give them something to
get excited about.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And it was just not that, it was just not there.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And it was weird because you felt like, if anything,
the effects of the eighteen inning game was going to
affect Toronto more than it affected the Dodgers and the
Dodger crowd. And it felt like the opposite was true. Yeah,
I thought the same thing. Yeah, I thought, what's going
on out here? And maybe because it was for Toronto
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that certainly was a must win yesterday. I mean, they
go down three to one, they're done, They're absolutely done.
And their players said it today hearing some of them
with interviews, they said that we cannot be in a
three game must win series with the Dodgers. So yesterday
was a absolute have to have it, must win for
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the Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
It wasn't the case for the Dodgers. Dodgers win today.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now they're up three to two, even though they got
to go back to Toronto. Toronto's got to be them
twice with all hands on deck for Game seven, so
everybody's going to be available for that game if it
does go seven, and the Dodgers have Blake Snell tonight,
they got Yamamoto going and then you know, Game seven
is like I said, all hands on deck.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So this one, this one is.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Critical too, I believe for the Blue Jays more so,
I think than the Dodgers. I think the Dodgers have
to have obviously they would like to win it. It's
more critical than yesterday. But if the Blue Jays do
go back to Toronto down three to two, and they
got to face Yamamoto on Friday, and then again, you're
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gonna have Glass. Now, you'll have what Tani available, probably
have Snell available. I mean, you're gonna have everybody because
they're not going to the bullpen that we know that
we see out there tonight. All those starters are going
to be available to come in the game at some
point in game seven.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I think last night is you know, Monday, Monday night.
After Monday's game, the feeling was the Blue Jays absorbed
a huge which body blow knocked them back a little bit,
losing in eighteen last night. I'm not saying that Dodgers
will lethargic. I'm not saying that Rodney, but it sure
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seemed like Toronto had a little more.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Ooph to them.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, a little bit, But it didn't feel that way
the way the game started. Right, KK makes the great
play and right and left field, you know, Dodgers get
off to a lead and I just do I believe,
you know, And it's one of those you have a
superstar like Otani, sometimes you think he's invincible and he
can do everything, and the big moment it's the World Series.
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He's gonna go out and he's gonna dominate these guys
like Yamamoto did, and they're not gonna have a chance. Well,
lot hits the home run. There's a chink in the
armor with your superstar. Now, Like, how in the world
did he had a home run off of Otani? Oh
my god, not only a home run, to run home
run to take the lead, and it was a blast.
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So oh, they got to our superstar, right, And so
there was a feeling like, uh oh, if they can
do that to Otani, oh my god, they're they're not
afraid of him number one, and they're confident that they
can get it done. I think that really woke up
Toronto to them saying, this is our game to go
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get now right, and we we got Otani, And in fact,
they looked at it like, Okay, he's pitching. He's not
going to do the damage to us at the plate,
because that's been the mo of late when he's pitched.
But now we got him, we got the lead on Otani.
Let's keep putting the pressure on. And they kept putting
the pressure on the Dodgers every single inning.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Time for Dodger Baseball Tonight, the Dodgers take on Toronto
Game five of the World Series. First pitch at five.
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David Vasse has popped to pop in here in a
couple of minute trot So, uh, we'll get back to
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Dodger Stadium and Dave's going to jump in as we
continue with this World Series pregame show. All right, we
continue on from Dodger Stadium, Red Rogan, Rodney Peete, and
we are honored that David vass Say has actually coming
to spend a few minutes where it's Dave.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's good to see you. Hey, Great to see you
guys too.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean need a little bit more energy tonight in
this suite. You guys are setting the tone for the
rest of the day. We are Where were you, Rodney?
I mean you are all over the stadium. I'm pointing
the finger right at you. Are you? Yeah, I'm pointing
the finger right at you for that flat stadium.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Last night I was in the clubhouse getting my uniform on.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's what I was trying to do. Get ready to go. Okay,
I'm about to walk down through that bullpen. I still
got a little something in this arm. Yeah, maybe about
ninety five.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Get that something, Get that wing ready for some towel waiting?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
How about that? I mean it was dull.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Twenty seventeen World Series, twenty eighteen World Series.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean this place was electric.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Have Dodger fans become so spoiled that they feel like
it's in October passage that they should be here. I mean,
this team is trying to make history. Your team, your team,
your LA Dodgers are trying to become the first team
in twenty five years to win back to back World
Series championships. And you got Rogan and Rodney up here
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in the suite, didn't even say hello when I walked Sleep.
This is the type of sleep. This is the type
of fat cat mentality we donated this city.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
They look at this the night before a ten innings, right.
You felt the players, I know they felt it. The
crowd was in it for those eighteen.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I would say that Dodger dugout was more in it
than the fans.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I don't know, you don't know. You watched.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
All right, even when you watched on TV, people every inning,
people were standing.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
They were standing. Yeah throughout I thought they I love that.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Okay, So you're saying people at one am were more
into it than I agree.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yesterday, I do believe that. I believe that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I believe when Vlad hit the home run to take
the lead, it sucked a lot of energy out of
his statum.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I agree, shouldn't have been shell shocked. Yeah, because it's Otani.
It was Otani. You think he's invincible. But it was
only a two to one game at that point in time,
in the third inning, right, I just got to tell
you being at Rogers Center, Yeah, it was never happened
like that. I mean they were on their feet all
nine innings.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh they were, Yeah, they were.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I mean when Munsey and Smith hit their home runs
in Game two, it took a little steam out of
the crowd, but they got right back in it. I
mean that was only in the third inning last night.
Are you telling me the Dodgers lost that game in
the third inning, that's the way the fans reacted. I mean,
I just I know there's a lot of TikTokers now,
I know it's a corporate event as well, but so
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is twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen and twenty twenty four.
I feel like Dodger fan pay a lot of money
to come to these games. You've got to be heard,
you got to be engaged, you got to you got
to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Don't you want to be part of it?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Dave?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
In the offense didn't give them much to cheer about.
But still you got Otani on the mount. It's not
glass now, it's freaking show.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Heo Tani on the mound.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
This guy just was on base nine times in an
eighteen inning game. He's starting game four. He's the best
player on the planet.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, pitch him. You got to pick him up. Yeah,
I'm with you, Dave.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
When you look at the trust trenk in the bullpen,
can they sendim like trying it back out there again?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I don't believe Blake try and can pitch again in
this World Series in a high leverage spot. He's just
not the same guy. But last night Dave Roberts was
limited in his options. He wasn't even the first guy
out of the bullpen. It was Anthony Bunda.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Can he go back out there? Banda?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I mean not with runners on base. They both haven't
done a great job of stranding inherited runners in this
world series. So today they should have Edgardo and Riquez
ready to go. Jack Dryer pitch two innings, I wouldn't
venture to say he's available.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Where's Will Klein? Is he ready to go again? I
don't know. Seventy two inches, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
He might need some time, but yeah, Kershaw, he's ready
to go if you need him. But they need Blake
Snell to go six or seventy innings tonight they If.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Not, he's got to go. I think he's got to
give him. He's got to give him, and unfortunately it
has to happen. It's way for the fans too. He's
got to give the fans some life belief that Blake
Snell is on and it's gonna come early. And I
know it shouldn't be that way, it should be the opposite.
But Blake Snell comes out in the first couple of
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innings and he's Blake Snell and you feel he's got it.
I think the fans really have to encourage that going forward,
because they got to feel it today and he's gotta
he's got to have one of those Blake Snell Snell
Zillow games. I think for the Dodgers, I have no.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Doubts he's going to do that. I think the Dodgers
need to score some runs for him. I actually believe
if you score early, the energy of the will be high.
Snell Zilla will be able to pitch a little bit
free and easier with the lead. To me, Blake Snell's
the least of the Dodgers' concerns today. Their offense has
only scored three runs in the last twenty innings, and
Dave Roberts has to change things up. What's what he
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has had out there the entire postseason is stale.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's not working.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
They're not turning the lineup over for Otani to come
up with runners on base. And I would even go
as far as to say, I know we're looking at
Andy pa Has, but Mookie Betts hitting second? Yeah, are
we gonna keep doing that? Because he's three for nineteen.
Who do you move up? You move with Freddie up?
I mean the best right now? Will I would have
Will Smith hitting second? I would And I don't know
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how far you drop down Mookie Betts if you drop
them all the way to sixth.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You lose him for the World Series.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
So I don't even know if the Dodgers would do that,
but you got to find a way to get Will
Smith more at bats the rest of the World Series
because he's having the best at bats of anybody in
this lineup.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, move him, Maybe put Mookie fourth and let Freddy
still hit third and and and do it that way.
What about at the end, do you whoever it is you,
do you do you move? Like maybe hits ninth instead
of where I think k K where he's hitting is fine.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I you know, I I personally believe this is a
Miguel Rojas series. I mean, why why hasn't Miguel Rojas
got to start in this series? He should be playing
second base and hitting ninth. And move Tommy the center. Yes,
I've been told that, tom Yet tell me this. How
can Tommy evn In play six innings and extra man
in center field?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Does his ankle know it's an emergency and they need
him out there or exactly his ankle doesn't know that, right?
So I know you might lose a little something. Maybe
he's a half a step worse out there. Key K
Hernandez center field. Maybe then that means that Miguel Rojas
is not in the game and you got Alex Collin
left field. But either way, I don't see how Andy
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pa has can be He's he has four it's three
or four hits in fifty's without a way.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
He looks lost overmatch. Yeah, the rookies. Yeah, the moment
feels so much bigger for him.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
And they've given him so many opportunities. It's the World Series,
it's winner go home now. At some point, feelings have
got to go out the windows.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, and it's not like, well, well we'll punt this
one tonight, We'll get you to the moment and I can't do.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
This is a must win for the Dodgers. They are
not going to Toronto and winning two games. I'll just
tell you right now. They win tonight. I believe they
can win the World Series in six games and Yoshi
Yamamoto wins the World Series MVP.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's my vision. I see they have to win tonight, and.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
They got to get Blake's now and talk about Dave.
The difference because you you're around these guys, you've been
around all season in years, the difference of a pitcher.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Pitching with a lead as opposed to pitching with a
game that's tied, or pitching from behind through four or
five six innings. You know, when you get a lead
early as a pitcher, it just gives you so much
more confidence, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You've played baseball, so you know that. And it feels
like at times these Dodgers starters, especially last night with Otani,
he knows about this offense better than anybody else. You
have to be perfect and he can't be perfect. That's
too much to ask, especially with the team that plays
Pepper just puts the ball in play and sits the
table for the big boy, Vladimir Guerrero Junior. And that's
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exactly what happened in the seventh inning last night. Not
big swings. They just put the ball in play and
they kill you by a couple thousand paper cuts.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
You know, that's the way they do it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And that's what I was thinking with Blake Snow I
mean the first game, he was up around twenty six,
twenty seven pitches in the first inning.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
No fastball comand I don't expect that to repeat itself.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But here's the thing I thought in Game one when
that pitch count ran up, we're in trouble tonight. Yeah,
we are in big trouble because that means he can't
go enough innings.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, that's and it's unfortunate, but that's the key.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Given the bullpen got to stay out there and go
and just hope you can manufacture run somehow or another.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
The perfect world is for the Dodgers to have a lead,
Blake Snell goes into the seventh inning and Dave Roberts
is able to use Sasaki for six outs. Yeah, I
feel this is a must win. The Dodgers are going
to approach it that way. Why not You've got to
use Sasaki for six outs if you have the lead
going into the eighth inning.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
And on the flip side of that, Dave, because you
just mentioned it about about Toronto and how they play,
and that's how they played all season long, that they
have quality at bats, you know, one through nine. You
know those guys at the bottom of the order, yem
Ands and Clement, I mean, those guys are putting the
ball in play. I mean, it really is a team
that plays as a team. Yeah, and it's a reason
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they're in the World Series. And I know everybody wants
to get caught up into the payroll and the names
of the Dodgers, but the Blue Jays are in it
for a reason. They are a good baseball team with
quality players on that team.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I feel like there's a lot of Dodgers that are pressing,
trying to play hero ball. They have good intentions, but
they're coming out of their game. Know who you are,
Tom Yedman, know who you are. Take some pitches. Don't
be chasing those spin that they throw you. Max Munsey,
you're a guy that likes to work outs. You shouldn't
be swinging at the first pitch from Mason Fluhrdy with
runners at first and second and one out the first
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pitch coming out of the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Know who you are.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Don't try to be the hero. There's enough of you guys.
Just keep that line moving. And we haven't seen that
a lot in the postseason, and we certainly haven't seen
that in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I know that during the season, we talk about it
when the Dodgers struggle, play a little small ball. Let's
just make contact, get on base and do what you
were saying. But they never do that. They never play
that way. They're all swinging for the fence.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, and it comes in the process of having the
right intentions.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I feel like tonight the Dodgers will have a different
look to their line up. Like I said, it's not
just about Pas. The Dodgers need Mooki Bets to be
more than just a guy.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Could they really move him out of that second slot?
Honestly they could? But how far do you move him?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And that's the that's the fine line, the tightrope you're walking,
because if you move him too low, you'll lose him.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But maybe a spot down. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
But Will Smith can protect shoey Otani these days a
lot better than Mooki Bets.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Would there even be a chance of moving them to
the leadoff spot and moving.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
No chance, no chance, no chance, no chance that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Hey, Freddie Freeman's going to talk in about twenty minutes,
so oh you'll see what he has to say in
the press conference room.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Nice all right, Dave, thanks for hanging Thanks buddy, really
bring the energy, keep it going.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
We will got to do it.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I better see you on Dodger Vision on top of
the dugout with their tonnel.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm wearing a special uniform tonight.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Okay, Strauss, you're gonna wear that Strauss helmet.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What do you here? Hey, It's time for World Series
Dodger Baseball. Tonight, the Dodgers take on the Blue Jays
Game five of the World Series.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
First pitch at five.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Listen to all games on A five seventy LA Sports
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Strauss powers World Series coverage on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Fred Rogan Rodney Pink Live from Dodger Stadium, and we're
coming back.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Oh yes, it's a beautiful hunk day and beautiful Los Angeles,
eighty something degrees.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
A little before one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It doesn't get much better than this Game five of
the World Series. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan live from Dodgers Stadium.
It's beautiful day, Fred, Look at this music is playing.
Oh yeah, not many people out here, just a beautiful setting.
I can't say it enough. We can't say it enough.
I know people hate us around the world because it's
October twenty ninth, it's eighty degrees.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's incredible. Yeah, it's absolutely incredible out here. Okay, so
you and David Vasse both mentioned this the crowd last night,
and there seems to be a feeling and I think
Tim and Steve talked about it on their show as well.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Who's at these games?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You always get the argument, well, the real fans are
priced out. That's not correct. Real fans are still here. Yeah,
real fans are in this state. They're priced out of
the premium seats. You know that, they they get them.
But to be honest, Rodney, they may be priced out
of the upper deck in this I mean they're really expensive.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
They are.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
But that doesn't mean the people here, the mature fans,
are real fan because they are.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yes, even some even some of the you know people
that you see on TV that you know, oh he's
there just because No, the Rob Lows and Jason Bateman's
and people like that, and.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
They buy those tickets. Yes, that's the tickets, Mary Hart.
They're here.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
They're here in June, they're here in July, in May,
and so they're not just coming because it's the World Series.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
They are Dodger fans.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So don't get it twisted like they're just showing up
because it's, you know, the World Series.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
They actually are Dodger fans. Not to be fair, there
are some people showing up just because. Oh absolutely, there
are some people and you normally see them on TV
and they're placed strategically on my that like Prince Harry's
here last night, Justin Bieber's here.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I don't think it was totally random that Johnny Knoxville's
in the crowd and Joe Davis is like, oh, and
by the way, Johnny Knoxville is the nest a fear
factor on Foxy, you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Of course, you know, Fox has got its number of
you know, celebrities from their shows that are that are
in the audience and in these suites and stands, and
it's going to happen that way. Justin Bieber, you know,
I'm sure Toronto found a way to make sure that
he's somewhere in the crowd because he's from Ontario.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, so some of these people, to be honest with you,
some of these people are getting in.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Some of the celebrities are getting in.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh that's true, and yees that galling if you spend
money on tickets. Well probably, but then again, it's a
business and it's marketing. Some celebrities get in here. But overall,
I gotta tell you, and I know it's so expensive,
it really is, but that's the price you paid when
you have a team like this, by the way, and
they keep reinvesting in the team, so that's the reward
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that that's how they pay you back, they keep investing
in the team. But I do have to say there
are real fans here. Last night, they just didn't have
a lot of juice. And it's something we talk about
all the time when you get to the playoffs, your responsibility,
your obligation as a fan. It's like you don't want
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to be at this game and the guy behind you
is talking about his mortgage or his trip to Hawaii,
or his golf game, or his girlfriend or what.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Do you think that most of the fans that are
coming to this World Series are coming multiple nights like
there's a obviously Dodgers they kill everybody, and which comes
to season tickets, they'd sell out and there they have
more fans than anybody by far, four million, I believe
was this year a little above four million. Do you
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think that the fans here at these World Series? Because
if you're a season ticket holder, you have priority, you
can get seats and you got to I mean obviously
got to play a you know, pay a premium. But
do you think the fans here at the World Series
are repeat fans? And I say that because is there
also a fatigue factor with the fans that were here
the night before for eighteen innings coming back again because
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they had multiple tickets to multiple games that they were
just the energy level for them was off.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
What do you think the percentage of I'm going to
all the games is of the crowd?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
One hundred percent? I'll say what thirty five forty? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I think you get a lot of new people at
every game, because I don't think people can afford the
tickets for every game quite frankly, I mean, you got
a lot of money to go to every World Series
game here, you really do.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
So you're saying about thirty percent of the fans are
are coming to all the games?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, yeah, so I think there's a turnover. Yeah, that
might be the case. I could see that. I could
see that.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I just I just know that the Dodgers from a
season's ticket standpoint, have more than anybody else. And I'm
wondering if those fans you know bought you know, do
you bite the bullet and say, yeah, I'm I'm going
to go to all these World Series games at home.
There's only going to be four of them, or what
three of them, and so I'm going to all of them.
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And is the crowd the same crowd? And that's what
it felt like. The crowd was fatigued from the night before.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, it could have been a possibility, but look at
it like this. If you're coming to tonight's game, it's
the final game you're going to see here.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yes, this is it. There won't be any more.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
This is the final game of this season in a
Dodger stadium. And it's sort of like when they played
the Padres. You've got to be in the game, you
got to be up early, you've got to be standing.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I mean that eighteen inning game.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I couldn't walk because I'm old, and I stood for
eighteen innings. I mean, that was incredible from the tenth
inning on and watching it from home and you see
the shots obviously, you see behind home plate and people
are standing. They're up for every pitch, especially when it
comes to outs, and then they pan around and people
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are standing, and that was an incredible sight to see
that through eighteen innings and you just didn't feel that
last night, right, Well, if you're coming tonight, this is
it the final game at the stadium, so you bring
your a game as well. We are live at Dodger Stadium.
We'll be here till two o'clock next hour. Roll up
in the fall lines, take some calls, kind of check
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the pulse of the people, and see where we're at
as we head into the first of what.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Is now a three game series. We'll do that when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Fred Rogan, Rodney pet were live at Dodgers Stadium on
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