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October 3, 2025 • 46 mins
The Cubs eliminated the Padres, Manny Machado was upset with a reporter and the ABS challenge system would have made a HUGE difference if it were available in Game 3 of that series. What are the biggest challenges that the Phillies present to the Dodgers?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, let's go Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at a
five seventy LA Sports to make three hours show Force
today as we count down now to the Division Series
where the Dodgers in Philadelphia and Rodney, how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm feeling pretty good about it, Fred, I'm feeling good
at today. I'm feeling good about this weekend and the
Dodgers going to Philly. I'm feeling good all around. Fred.
It's been a I don't know the numbers. You're a
numbers guy, Fred, but I gotta believe just hearing people
talk the ratings for these playoffs in Major League Baseball

(00:35):
right now is through the roof.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I've not seen the numbers, but I will tell you this,
since I watch the games, there is certainly a different
feel right to every one of them. Right, you know,
there's a difference when and it's creating a sense of
urgency in sports. That's why when you say, well, the
season is the season, it's too long, it's way too
long because there's no urgency.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, we say that all the time, too, Right, the
NBA season and it's you know, one's sixty two eighty two.
It's a long season, and you're right. It season's too long,
but we get here. Even leading up to this, it's
been pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, if you watch the games yesterday, we'll talk about them.
As a matter of fact, why don't we just go
with the Padres off the top so they get eliminated yesterday.
But as you sat and watched that and I watched it,
every pitch, every single pitch mattered, every move mattered. And
that's what you get in the playoffs. Unlike the regular season,

(01:35):
when you have a lot of games, everything can't be
that important the whole time. Here, every single pitch is,
every decision counts because it can be the difference between
advancing and your season is done.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hello Padres, Hello San Diego, Good.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Morning San Diego. How you say classy San Diego? And
that was that for the Padre So Ubs knock them
out yesterday, I said the day before the Cubs would
beat the Padres. So I had that feeling. What's your
man named Machado? After the game?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Now it just ended?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
But how do you assess the season like this?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, I mean, what.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Type of question is that?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
My guy? How do I assess the season? We just lost?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
How do you think I assessed thee how do you
think I assess it?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Can you tell me what's a loss? We lost?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
How do you assess it to a loss? Your loss?
Come on, dude, I mean you could ask better questions
than that.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Let's go, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I didn't think it was a bad question. I thought
it was a horrible question. Really, absolutely right with Manny
Machado A hundred percent. You know, we get on athletes
all the time after interviews and what they all they
Why can't reporters get it? They go anonymous, they can
to report whatever they want. But if you ask a
stupid question like that, absolutely check him. Check him, Manny.

(03:03):
You just lost the game and the playoffs. You're out,
You're knocked out, and he wants you to assess the
whole season.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
You kidding me.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's the dumbest question ever, not ever, But it's a
bad question. It's a bad question. Talk about the game.
Talk about the game, what happened in the game, what
happened in you know, talk about the performance in the series.
How do you assess the season? That's something you take
time off and then you go look back and this is, uh, yeah,
we could have had a better stretch in June, or
we could have had a you know better out in

(03:32):
our our hitting was down in August. That's assessing the season.
To ask that question right after you lost, assess the season.
You don't think that's a bad question.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
First, I don't, But you know you sound just like
Tommy Lisorda did years ago when he was asked about
Dave Kingman Kingman's performance. Kevin, see if you can find
that somewhere and you ask me right now about that,
how do you think I feel? I didn't think it
was a bad question. I actually thought.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
I'll pull that up. Fred, Not to cut you off,
but that was a bad question too. Yes, but he
had three home runs? Yes, So how do you think,
come on, it was? There was a better way to
I would say this, Fred, there's at least a better
way to frame it. Frame it better. You know, you
guys had highest spectations coming into the year, obviously in
the way you wanted to just talk about your feelings

(04:20):
and like how things went. There's a way to frame
the question other than like than what he said, what's
your assessment? My assessment is we lost in the first
round of the playoffs. He's their problem.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
What do you mean.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Okay, but he could have spun that a different way.
I mean, man, he was very old.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
He just lost Fred. They just lost you know what.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So Manny's supposed to be the compassionate one and the
one that the he's not asking the question. The guy
asked him the question. But it's not Man's responsibility to
clean it up for the guy.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
That's not how do you assess the season?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Disappointing, frustrating, we expected to win. I can't even talk
about all of it right now, but yeah, you can imagine.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's how you answer it.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
He could have handled it with more grace if you
wanted it to. But I understand. But like a bad
it could say, a bad question deserves an answer. A
blunt answer is how I how.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Would you add the question?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You guys, Hey, listen, you had high expectations. You took
the Dodgers down to the wire. At the end, you
end up playing in the wild Card. You play the
Cubs didn't go the way you wanted it to go. Uh,
talk about the series and and you know how you feel? Okay,
something like that.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
But but not not. He asked them to assess.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
The season Fred in a moment, they just lost a seriously,
cubs in the playoffs. Okay, forget about the playoffs, forget
about the whole playoffs. Just assessed the whole season.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, Broughtney. I don't usually agree with you on things
like this, but you made your point. I think you're
right just the way you ask the question. Yeah, I
get it. I got it, And I understand what you're saying. Yeah,
you know they're triggers, right, guys, everybody does. Everybody gets
triggered by certain things. Somebody if you phrase Kevin's absolutely right,

(06:07):
you phrase it a certain way, it creates a trigger,
and it's an involuntary response.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I'm sure as soon as that.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Question was going, and it was going and he heard it,
it was like, what you.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Ask me that?

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Now, if you saw his face in the video, he
had to he's had to pause for half a second, like,
did you really just ask me that?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Wrong with you? All right?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now, let's go back to the classic. Then we'll revisit
Manny Machana. But this, this is this is the one
that wrote the book on it. Uh that what Kevin?
Dave Kingman hit three home runs right, Yes, Okay, Dave
Kingman hit three home run against runs against the Dodgers
and Tommy Lusorda was asked about it afterwards.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Here we go. I think it's my opinion of it.
I think it was put that in that opinion.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Of this performance Jesus christy vetus? What homes?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What you mean?

Speaker 7 (06:58):
What is my opinion of his performance? How can you
ask me a question like that? What was my opinion
of of this performance?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Jesus Christ?

Speaker 7 (07:06):
He had three home runs, Jesus Christs off the loser game,
and you asked me my opinion of his performance?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Okay, now, now let's go back to Madame Chatta Kevin.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I know it just ended, but how do you assess
the season like this? I mean, I mean, what type
of question is that?

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
My guy?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
How do I assess the season? We just lost?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
How do you think I assessed the sea?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
How do you think I assess it?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Can you tell me what's a loss we lost? How
do you assess it to a loss? Your loss? Come on, dude,
I mean, you could asks better questions than that. Let's
go all right. You can't even said it to him.
You can ask better questions than that. I mean, you

(08:04):
got Manny Machila it's not like you got the twenty
seventh player on the bench, you know, that didn't even play,
and there's not the superstar team.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know, how do you access the season? He can
go and reflect and sit back in his chair, relax
and go, well, you know, I didn't have an impact.
But you know, if i'd look back at the season
right now, thirty minutes after the game we got knocked
out of the playoff. If I really want to go back,
let's start in May, Fred, Let's start back in May.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And how we you know, let's.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Go back then when our pitching was decimated and then
we had to struggle through June. Let's go back and
do all those things.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Kidding me.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
See, here's the issue. What the guy was doing. It
was a TV guy. Okay, so TV local sports. Let's
understand the difference. The local TV guys are not the
La Times guys.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
All right?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Is that local Chicago or is that local San Diego guy?
That was a local San Diego?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Okay, all right, So what you're doing for TV because
you have a limited amount of time and the audience
watching for sports doesn't really care that much, you're basically
doing sports for people that don't care, because if you
really cared about sports, you wouldn't watch local TV sports.
And I did it for one hundred years. I know
that when I was doing it. So you're you're gonna

(09:23):
lob one up there so you can get like a
thirty five to forty second bite interview clip if you will.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Hey, assess the season.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
All this guy's thinking is, well, it didn't end the
way we wanted it to, and we're all disappointed. And
that's it. That's gonna be his whole report because he
has no more time none.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's what the guy was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Lob him one, give him a little open ended, give
me twenty five thirty seconds, boom out. That's what he
was trying to do. And Manny, who lost and wasn't
very pleased, why would he be decided to That's a
back question, I mean really really yeah, And it wasn't

(10:04):
It wasn't like a dig or anything. But Manny would
have been even more gracious if he would have said, listen,
you guys had high expectations.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What did the Cubs do to neutralize your offense? Because
you guys have been potent all year and your your
your pitching staff came through for you. But it seems
that they neutralize you guys offensively. How do you assess
this series? If you'd have said that, how do you
assess this series as opposed to this season, it probably
would have been a different answer saying and that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Not to give you the the one on one clinic
on asking questions, but I'll give it to you now
because you're taught. By the way, at NBC when we
did the Olympics, Oh, they had seminars on how you
ask questions, the correct way to ask a question. And
really what that guy was doing was given it a
local TV thing. I need forty seconds for a bite. Right,
You do not ask open ended questions, and they teach

(11:00):
you that they asked him the way you just did it. Yeah,
be specific, right, be specific. You cannot get yes. You
don't ask questions where you get a yes or no,
but you don't get open ended questions that could go
any different way. You'd be very specific and get an answer.
So yeah, I understand that. But the game the Padre

(11:23):
laws also brings to life because I gotta tell you something.
They could one at ninth then it was dicey, yeah, really,
and there was a pivotal moment. I mean, the Cub
believer it hit two guys, so now they got runners
on base. I mean it was it was getting scary,
and there was a pivotal moment. Xander Ballguards is at

(11:45):
the plate. Here is the pitch. The ball is low,
and they call strike three and it was low. Now
that is a critical juncture of the game. What happens
if he gets on base and they don't record it out?
I imagine, yeah, imagine if there's a challenge at that point.
Oh and it would have been upheld. Yeah, next year

(12:05):
there will be, but this year there was not, and
the pitch was low. I'm not rooting for the Padres
as a matter of fact, I don't care about either
one of the teams, Cubs or Padres. But if somebody
had to win, I wanted to be the Cubs. Just
on the cod winner get knocked out, I think the
winner of that. Yeah, the Cubs now go to Milwaukee.
But I think you're right, the Cubs, Padres, whoever played Milwaukee,

(12:29):
I think they're coming out of that series. But the
thing is, if that pitch was not called a ball,
we may have a different outcome. That was a critical moment,
and it speaks to the fact and next year they
will have the challenge. So currently there were a year

(12:50):
behind at least for the Padres in the world of
the challenge. But it speaks to and those guys do
the they're working the playoffs. You can't miss that pinch,
but you're a human being and you could miss it
the human element. Take the human element out of that.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Where does it stop, though, Fred? Where does it stop?
Where does it stop with the human element taken out
of it?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Where does it stop? Is this a slippery slope? Then
take the first base hump out of it too. Because
they're talking about check.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Swings now is a thing that's reviewable.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
They should I agree that they should review check swings again.
You can't no more watching than sitting there. You've got
to get it right. You have got to get this right.
And you're going, well, it's screwing up the whole game
at every call could be questioned, Yeah, but you're not
playing the games like it or not. For the people

(13:56):
sitting in the crowd. These games are for TV. These
games are to be broadcast or streamed. That's where the
majority of the audience is. On a nightly basis, there
are more people watching the Dodgers or listening than sitting
at Dodger Stadium. And the Dodgers drew four million fans,
so that's a lot of fans. But still there are

(14:17):
more people watching them, not in the stadium. So that
means the majority rules. The people watching cannot know more
than the people there, because that is how perception is created.
So when you have Xander Bogarts and the pitch is
low and he strikes out, he could.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Have been run.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
If somehow the Podreys are gone to extra innings, he
probably would have been run. I mean, Shilt ran out
there and grabbed him immediately. But yeah, Bogarts was I
mean I thought, well, initially he was relatively calm the
way he approached the empire, but yeah, I don't know,
Bogarts pretty fast.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
He was relatively calm to start with, and then it escalated. Yes,
but yeah I would have been ir too. That was clearly,
clearly out of his own And yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Can't miss it that bad. I mean, you get it
when it's like a little bit off or whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's a you know, it's human and you miss it
a little bit, and you know, you see that box
and it's right, splitting the line or whatever like that,
and the guy misses it. But come on, this is
the playoffs. This is a playoffs. You got You're supposed
to have the best dumps out there.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
It was like Leslie Nielson a naked gun if you
remember when he was the umpire. The guy wound up
and pitched greatest and everybody just sat there. Jake Johnstone
I think, was the hitter, right, he.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Got the Johnstone, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
So he looked back at Leslie Nielsen and the pitcher
looked at him, and the crowd all paused, and then
less Nielsen goes strike and everybody went crazy. That's kind
of what it was like. Here's the pitch, it's low,
you're thinking okay, and all of a sudden the guy
punches them out. It wasn't even instantaneous, Rodney, No, there

(16:14):
was a delay. There was a delay before he punched
them out.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know, no, you can't do that, honest to god,
you just can't do it.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
But then again, it's the padres good don't care. We
don't know, we don't care. I'll tell you what though.
People that live in San Diego and we have people
listening to us in San Diego every day.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Do you know they believe they have they really do
have an inferiority complex. They believe that only bad will
happen to the Padres when it counts most. They believe
in San Diego the Padres cannot beat the Dodgers. I
am telling you, I talk to people from San Diego.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
They have that feeling, like deep down inside, if they're
real with themselves that they can't beat the Dodgers, they
can't get up.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
They're of the opinion that I don't know, in a
one game playoff, who knows. But aside from that, the
Padres can not beat them. They believe that that is
in their DNA. They don't think it can happen, and
it hasn't h in the last couple of years. And

(17:25):
now you get to this against the Cobs and don't
forget aj Preller at the trade deadline, now when he
picked up Mason Miller from Oakland, who was a terrific
cloth Oh my god, I've hurt four five. I mean,
it's unbelievable, and like, yeah, okay, but the thing is,

(17:46):
do you know, do you remember what he gave up
to get him. Yeah, like the third ranked prospect in
all of baseball, a shortstop who and he's he's a
suspect as a prospect until he's a big but he's
supposed to be really, really good.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
You don't give him up for Mason Miller.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't know what I would do. I have to
tell you, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
What, Miller's gonna be a factor for years to come,
one hundred percent. I do that deal all day long.
I don't know what a prospect's gonna do, but I
know what this guy can do. I know what he
did in Oakland, and I know what he can do,
so yeah, I'm taking that all day long.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I mean, he gave up guys to get o'hearne and Loreano.
He gave up somebody to get the catcher for me.
I mean, he really went deep into the into the
farm system.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
But don't you love that?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I see, I do, But I'm concerned, I do, you know,
and I love that. If it works, then I really
love it. But if it doesn't work, I I'll love
it that much. I mean, can you believe do you
think the Dodgers and who knows what's gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
All right?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't know what's gonna happen. Do you really think
they would go in there and say, yeah, you know,
we're going for it. Top six prospects all traded, We're
going for it right now. They would never do that.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
There was six prospects they traded. I thought it was
like five. I think overall, I know the top guy,
but the top guys like worth five guys. I mean,
he's that good. But it's like, oh my god. And
they came up short again.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I'll tell you this, Arizona, Arizona the future.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, not the future.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But they traded way right now because they didn't think
that they were I don't know if they thought they
were going to make a run like they did, or
they didn't want to pay you know what, Naylor and
the U Suarez Suarez right, and Marra Kelly and mel Kelly. Yeah,
give those three guys up stars. I think, uh, which

(19:50):
one of them swore as? I think hit forty nine
home runs? Yes, so yeah, And then they came to
the last weekend or last week of making the playoffs.
So if you're Arizona fan, what are you thinking? What
are you thinking at the end of that season when

(20:11):
you come three. You're you're a week away, you're in
the running for a playoff bid, for a wild card bid,
and you look back and go July thirty, first we
traded away guy had forty nine home runs, a guy
that help us get to.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
The World Series. I know what you want me to say. Say,
I know what you.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Want to say.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So if I'm an Arizona fan, here's what you want
me to say. You want me to say, what the
hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Guys? What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
We could have been in the playoffs and you give
this to us. Yes, but here's what I will say. Damn,
the future looks bright. Seriously, they traded two three guys
again play the new guys came up and they didn't

(21:04):
miss a beat. They will be stronger for this, They
will be better for that to get those guys in.
But that's my point. Now, look at the Padres. The
Padres just take everybody. We're going for it right now.
Arizona actually traded guys and almost made it.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, yeah, boy, I've had I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
If you're the Padres, they had a complete We talk
about the Dodgers and their struggles. Padres had a complete collapse.
They had so many opportunities in September to overtake the
Dodgers and to win the division and all of those things,
even possibly get the number two seed, and they just
went in a nose dives. That's amazing, you know, And do.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You think about this.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Let's think about it for one second. Let's think about
this for one second. We sit here and agonized over
what the Dodgers went through. Even Andrew Friedman when it
was on Rodney with us this week from the stadium,
he talked about it. Everybody knew what so every day
we lived with that as a Dodger fan. But if

(22:07):
we went through that, how much worse could it have
been for them? Because they had a shot to beat
the Dodgers. I mean you you're sitting here going, oh God,
the door is guide open, my god, guide is wide
open for him.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yes, right, you could see it. Right.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
As bad as it was for us when the Dodgers
went through that, imagine what it was like for them
because they missed the chance to get them.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
They had the window of opportunity. That leads to my question,
is their window closed? Now that's closing. It's closing right
because the last three years they've been closed last four years.
They've been closed, closed, knocking on the door, knocking on
the door. At some point you're supposed to kick it in,
and they haven't yet. It's what we used to say

(22:55):
about the Clippers, right, Clippers were knocking on the door.
They're getting at some point they had to get over
that home, and they never did. Is it are we
saying the same thing about the Padres now? I think
we might be as a matter and look at it
like this, You and Kevin, your boy, your man. Last night,
your all star hero was on the hill for the Padres.
He didn't even go three innings. The great you Darvish.

(23:17):
Can we put that to bed now?

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Please?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Do we have the ability to do that? Well, they're
facing you, darviage. Who cares?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
We talk about it with the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, we never said that he was like some all
world in general.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You both did when that when he was pitching against his.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Numbers against the Dodges were dominant. His numbers against the
Dodgers were dominant.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, now they're not dominated against the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Because he had one bat start a couple of months ago.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, that's all I need, That's all you need. That's
it for you, darviing and fairness.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
They did beat him last year in the potseason too,
I'll give you that for it, although they didn't light
him up. It was a low scoring game. But still
I said, we never said that he was some great
side the second coming of Cy Young like you're trying
to frame it here.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, it was just against the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Try to go crazy now, and what about the magnificent
Dylan cease?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's my man?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Mus Grove got hurt again. I think their window was
closing now the more I think about it. And are
they going to be able to keep those guys they
traded for O'Hearn Loreano the catcher for me, I mean,
are they gonna be able to hold onto those guys?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I think Loreano made him some money. I think he
really did. And it stretch that he had with Padres,
somebody's gonna.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Go get him. All right.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, then we put the uh the Padres season to bed.
But I'll tell you one thing, and I'm dead serious
about this, do not ask Manny mcchada about that. Do
not bring it up to him. Don't ask for his assessment,
because you're not gonna get it all right, We're often

(24:55):
running on a three hour show. All right, we're gonna
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
All right, so we get going tomorrow Game one Division Series,
and we do know that Otani will pitch for the Dodgers. Now,
let's assess this for a minute. Let's think about it.
Number one, this is going to be more difficult than
the Red Series. Got it understood, no question? And I

(26:20):
think Rodney's pointed this out a few times this week.
It's probably what the World Series will be. I would
suggest the winner of this is going to the World Series,
all right, So now we have to keep that in
mind as well. So that being said, what are the
major concerns here for the Dodgers as they face the Phillies.
What are we worried about here? Well, number one, we

(26:41):
are worried about the Phillies hitters because they got guys
that can hit.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Kyle Schwarber, I love what you said yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
What'd you say?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
He could run into one absolutely anytime. He's that good.
He's that kind of you know, there's certain guys that
has got to for hitting. And wherever he's been, he's
he's had an impact. And when they moved him in
to this lead off position, it just went crazy. And
he is he's one of those special hitters that is

(27:14):
a I like to call professional hitters.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Fred He's and he is the leadoff hitter. Yeah, and
I believe he's up after this year. And I was
gonna get paid, Yeah, reeled myself a lot of money. Yeah,
But he you know, and people forget he was instrumental
in the Cubs went in the World Series.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
When he was there, you know, he was hurt. I
think that year he was hurt more than half the year.
Came back and I believe late in September or late
August and just immediately had an impact and they went
on to win that World Series of the Cubbies and
then he moved on. But he is a uh he's

(27:54):
what you call an impact player for sure, and they
got to neutralize him, which the Dodgers did this year
when they played him. He didn't really have that big
of an impact against the Dodgers. All Right, our old
friend Trey Turner is there. He's been hurt, but he
is back. The straight Turner get booed when he comes
back to the Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
No, I don't think so. Do you think did he
get booed last time? I don't think so. I remember
I thought he yeah, I don't know. No, that's usually.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Reserved for players on the Clippers, ask Chris.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Paul or or the uh yeah Astros players.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
But but no, I thought he uh no, it's amazing
that he doesn't, because you know, he made the comment
that he didn't like playing in the West Coast, and
you know it was ready. He didn't really, he wasn't
really enthusiastic about coming back to the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, you can remind everybody of that next week then
when they get here. Also, you'll be seeing Bryce Harper.
Now he signed the big monster deal with the Fillies.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Years ago, and now, right, that's a small deal. Yeah,
at that time, it was huge. But yeah, now you
look around and go.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I'm trying to remember, was they got a first
of the thirteen year deals?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, I think he was because the Dodgers made a
run at him, remember, yeah, And everybody wanted the Dodgers
to make a real run at him, and it was
it was going to be a ten to thirteen year
type of deal.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And you you were very adam and about against that.
But yeah, he was the first to sign that over
ten year deal. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
If there's one guy I could have on my team
in Major League Baseball, I would pick him to me.
He is a ballplayer. He shows up every day, he
looks like he's ready to go. He takes no crap
from anybody. He's all about winning. He's a guy that
helps create culture. I like him a lot, I think,

(29:50):
and at any moment he could, he could go off.
He's not Schwarber. He's not gonna hit like Schwarbur. He's
not or Alec Bohm. He's not gonna hit like him either.
Bryce Harper is someone that can make an impact at
any second. So I really like him. Yeah, big moments,
He's he's a big moment guy for sure.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Now, let's talk about pitching. The Phillies.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Three left handed hit three left handed pitchers this year.
The Dodgers were twenty four and twenty three against left handers,
twenty four and twenty three. There were sixty nine and
forty six against righties. You're gonna see three lefties three
game one, You'll see. Christopher Sanchez had a nice year
ERA of two point one point eight in the postseason

(30:35):
thirty two starts this year, he had two hundred and
twelve strikeouts and two hundred and two winnings, but all
of Major League Baseballs and Baseball References version of wins
above replacement finished the regular season only just a total
of seven runs in.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
The last six starts. Okay, he's good, He's very good. Yes,
I think the Dodgers can hit him. Why do you
keep saying that? I just cant hit anybody when they're hitting, Well,
they're gonna hit him. They will hit him. And Fred,
you can't keep saying they hit him last time and

(31:09):
they're gonna hit him this time. Every every series, every
game is different, Freddie, you know this. Just because they
hit somebody last time don't mean they're gonna hit him
this time. There's there's there's adjustments.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Fred, all right, So Game Tworez look like I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Ranger Swarroz will be Game two left hander twelve and
eight this year three point two. Oh e ra a,
here's your wild card Game three for them. Hey, sus Flizzardo,
he's fifteen and seven an era of three point nine two.
I can tell you if he's on, he is really on,
or he could implode quickly. I think that's a guy

(31:52):
that's a win for the Dodgers. They'll be let me
ask you this. Yeah, who can't implode quickly? Well, everybody can,
but he's more wrapped to He's the guy. I'm telling
you write that name down Game three. Dodgers won Game
three with him pitching, not concerned. As a matter of fact,

(32:12):
here's how things going, rotation. They're gonna beat Sanchez. God,
we don't want the bullpen to come in for them though.
That guy's a monster. The good the closer they traded for.
Oh god, yeah, let's keep You gotta beat him so
bad they can't even go to the closer. You can't

(32:33):
let him come in because he's throwing like one hundred
and five. So they're gonna beat in game one, they'll
beat Sanchez, Suarez will be the Uh we don't know
what happens in game two, and they'll beat Lazardo in
game three. There got that figured out. Any questions anybody anything? No, no,
no question, Go ahead right now. I will answer all questions.

(32:57):
Who did Dodgers try it out there after? After Otani
is the same rotation that goes back to Blake smell
and then uh you meanymoo?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, wouldn't you who goes? Who goes? In game four?
You think?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
So what I go at some point, don't you gotta
don't you gotta pitch Glass now? You mean because he's
getting paid? No, he's there, No, because he actually was
performing pretty well at the end of the season. See,
I would go cursh off so rusty you don't want
him to stay you don't want him to get rusty.
You got to get him some work. I'm sure they're
gonna go with Glass now.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That that would make sense unless unless, let's say he's
in the bullpen in game one or game two, somebody
whoever's not in the bullpen is going to be the
starter in that game, whoever is not in the bullpen.
So if glass Now is in a bullpen, it'll be
cursh Off. Kershaw's in the bullpen, it'll be glass now
because Sheen will be in the pen again. And we

(33:57):
talked about it earlier, and uh, we'll have all Mota
on the show later well to ask him.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
If Tanner scouts on the roster again, what does he do?
When can you put him in?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Seriously? What leverage? Low leverage? If you're up, he can
eat some innings for you in the U fifth, sixth,
and seventh, and he if you're up a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
If you're up, well, there's no lead saying, so what's
your definition of a lot?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I don't, I don't. I don't know what you do
with him. I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
If he's there, I think yeah, I think you use
him in that situation. If you're up, if you're up
pretty good, i'd say, yeah, four runs, you're up four runs,
and it's it's late and there's a slew of lefties
coming up. Although the lefties have hit Tanner Scott pretty good. Uh,

(34:51):
then you let him go see if he can eat
an inning or two. I think you let him get
in there early, but you certainly don't put him in
there lately eighth or the ninth. But if you've got
a nice lead and one of these guys, oh tani
U Yamamoto or a Snell is you know well above

(35:12):
a hundred or you know a little above one hundred,
and you're comfortable, Yeah, why not use him? Why not
use him instead of.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Having to.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Utilize uh, you know, Blake trying in or Suzaki in
that moment, save until you have to. He's a guy
that I think you can hopefully give you save an
arm for you basically, so we have nobody else that
can do that job. Yeah, you do, you do, but
you just it's still it's still in your mind that

(35:47):
the talent is in there. The talent definitely is in there.
It's just the confidence to command, and so you gotta
it's hard not to believe that at some point he's
gonna get it back. And you hear what L said
about him, No, what it's mechanical problems. It's the way

(36:09):
he's he's moving his body. You can basically tell what
pitch he's going to throw. It's mechanical somehow against the
left hand. Or they can figure out what's coming. If
that's the case, No, he can't be there, he can't
beat the count. They'll figure it out. They'll fix them.

(36:29):
They always do, but maybe not enough time to do
it now. Yeah, but if ORL knows that, don't you
think the Dodgers know that.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, I'm sure they do.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
So if they know that, you would think they would
try to fix that, right, And if they have not
been unable to fix it, what leads you to believe
they can do it quickly?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because sometimes it just snaps. Sometimes you get a good
outing and all of a sudden I found it again.
Like a golf swing, you know, you're playing around and
he vombing them off the tee and every shot is
great for four holes, and then all of a sudden,
whole five you shank it into trees and you can't
hit a shot for four more holes, like what in

(37:09):
the world, and then on the back nine something happens
and you hit a great shot and it's like, Ooh,
I found it again.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Simple. It's it's difficult and tedious, but it's.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Very Sometimes it's very simple and a very easy thing
that you don't think about that you're doing, and then
you probably don't think about when you fix it either,
because you don't know.

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Two o'clock hour, Jose Motor Jump sign. We'll talk some
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God the Rams last night, so we'll get into that
and we'll take your calls Dodger fans coming up next hour.

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All right and no, from the court to the court
room with Jacob m Ronni.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Okay, Now our week, we checked with our friend Jacob
em Ronnie. Jacob, how are you today?

Speaker 8 (39:29):
Good afternoon gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
How are you doing it well? Jastic?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
So this week, Rodney, we want to do something different.
Jacob comes on, we talk sports and he always gives
advice to the audience. But we thought we would do
something different. And it's funny, you know, we talk about
Jacob and we always point out if you have a problem,
called Jacob.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, and he's helped you and he's helped me. Setwear
I trying to call Jacob Fritz. I was having sleeping
issues last night. I wanted to call Jacob.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I didn't know he won't help you with that.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh, okay, he won't help you with that, but if
there's an accident, he'll help you. So a friend of
mine some time ago had a situation and he said,
should I call Jacob? I gave him Jacob's number. Now
Jacob was there. Jacob handled it, and today the person
who called Jacob is with us. It's Alan Oda. Now

(40:20):
did I set that up properly? Jacob?

Speaker 8 (40:24):
Absolutely? Absolutely. And the friend of yours is a friend
of mine.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
All right, So what's Alan Jacob? Do you want to
talk about your experience using Jacob?

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (40:35):
The gentleman is probably one of the best resources to
have when you get into one of these kind of situations.
He's so helpful and so knowledgeable, and his staff also
takes care of you, and they follow up and it's great.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Now here's the thing, Alan, So you don't have to lie.
It's fine. I mean, I know you.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
We've known each other a long time. Is it as
he says?

Speaker 5 (40:55):
It is?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Is it as he says? If you call, do you
get the response you called him?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Directly.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
But if you call, do they take your call? Do
they help you? Do they walk you through everything?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
What do they do?

Speaker 10 (41:09):
Not only do they do that as you described, they're
also very honest and forthright. If they tell you that, hey,
we're not going to be able to get all this
kind of whatever and that kind of thing, let's go
to maybe a little bit more of a more judicious
type of way of proceeding, they'll tell you they're not
They're not there just to make a buck. They're there
to help you.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's I mean, that's that's the beauty of it. That
Jacob is going to shoot you straight. And I know
that firsthand. He's going to not sugarcoat things. He's always
going to shoot you straight. When Fred, so Fred told
you to call Jacob when you got into this situation, right, yes, okay,
So you've known Fred a long time. You know, sometimes
there's fifty to fifty when Fred tells you to do something.

(41:54):
Were you confident when Fred told you to call Jacob
that that was the right thing to do because it
came from Fred's mouth.

Speaker 10 (42:00):
I had no doubt. Whenever I hear something from mister Rogan,
I will take it.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
For what it is, very solid. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
You know, I'll jump in for one second and I'll
add something. One of the great thing about these things,
if you've always heard, is that, you know, everyone thinks
that it's just one incident you have a conversation with
an attorney, whether it's a friend or somebody, and it's
that's it. But you know, I've had the pleasure after
the first time Fred Uh, you know, referred Alan to

(42:30):
speak with me regarding an issue. You know, Unfortunately, things
come up, and just more recently, you know, we had
a conversation as early as you know this morning, at
seven point fifteen in the morning, you know, in terms
of another issue. And you know, I think it's always
important when you have an attorney, when you have a doctor,
when you have anybody that you need to go to

(42:52):
when you're in time of need, that you can have
access to them. And you know, thank god, you know,
we've been able to talk to Alan about it, and
you know, and it's also good to have a client
who actually takes your advice and takes your opinion and
actually can take it to the next level. And you know,
that's been that's been a great experience for myself as
we've been dealing with Alan.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
All right, but Jacob, here's the deal and be honest, Yeah,
you have done that for Allen. You're right, the firm
has you have I know that. Are you like that
with every single person that calls your firm?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (43:24):
You know, I think I always say that, you know,
I'm I'm lucky to have an incredible team around me.
You know, we have you know, over one hundred and
fifty team members that are here you know every week
when we have our huddles. The most important thing is
is we try to you know, we try to help
everybody as if they're a family member and give them

(43:46):
the full attention. Unfortunately, sometimes people don't like to hear,
you know, the honest opinion. Obviously, the laws are not
always you know, in the favor of the clients, and
sometimes we can and change what the facts of an incident,
an accident or an injury are. But but you know,
what I always, you know, encourage all of our team

(44:08):
members to do is to give it to them straight,
because you know, sometimes it's not in your best interests
to make a claim. Sometimes maybe you are not going
to be on the winning side of a claim and
I think it's important to tell people that because they
call us for legal advice. And what I always say,

(44:29):
and I told Alan even this morning, I said, listen,
this is my personal opinion. It doesn't mean it's a
controlling opinion, but at least hopefully you could start with that,
and if you need to look at it more, I
encourage you to do that. So our job here is
to be a counselor to people and to be there
at the time of need. And yes, you know, every
client who calls us, I'm hoping is going to be
a long, long, long time client in front for us

(44:51):
and be able to count on us.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, all right, Alan, good to talk to you, Thanks
for coming on today to.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
Talk to you, And again I just want to say
thank you this mister and Ronnie. He has been just
wonderful and his staff's been gig Can I make a
shout out to one of your staff members, sir, Yes, Yes,
Osmond Melendez was the first t and I worked with,
and he did a wonderful job. He follows up with
anything that I called him for and yeah, it was
just very very helpful. So I just want to mention

(45:21):
that as as affirming with the people on your staff.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
Thank you. Alan Osman is going to have a big
smile on his face knowing he got a shout out,
you know, uh, you know on a Friday afternoon at
the on the best show on the station.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Ah ah, that's what I'm talking about. What show is that? Oh?
I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
All right, Jacob, thank you, have a great weekend. Alan,
good talking to you again.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
All right, be good, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Take some Dodger calls. What do you expect in the
upcoming series. We'll do that this upcoming hour, but not
yet because when we come back, Vintie Bond Signor will
join us and explained what happened to the Rams last night.

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