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Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, Rodney to join us and talk about the
Dodgers right now, we welcome on our good friend Jose Modin. Jose,
thank you for coming on the show today.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Always man, we made this a tradition. Now, sos I
came to the Dodgers soul. Let's keep it rolling.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Let's do it all right, So you've got reasons why
the Dodgers are going to win this series.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Of course, there's many reasons, and number one is if
he looked back at the Dodgers in the Phillies throughout
this season. They came here when it was cold and wet,
and you know, we had the issues with glassnew walking people.
He walked five guys, they gave out five runs, but
every single one of those games they had a chance
to win. Here's number two. Dodger starters limited the Phillies
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with one thirty four average all season. There's a six
games now they had neira of two point five to nine.
Dodgers starters allowed one home run to the Phillies in
twenty four third innings and eleven hits. Now, of course
they got a hit. They're gonna be facing, you know,
probably three lefties. It doesn't matter. Those three lefties they
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saw recently at Dodger Stadium. And again they had every
single chance to win those ball games, ended up losing
two of them. And here's another fact, very interesting. Blake
Trnon lost three games against the Philly this year. And
could he be a factorer? Perhaps not as important as
he was back then. But I'm just going to give
you every reason to why this team, even though they're
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not playing their best on the offensive side in September,
they came within a hit or two or misplayed by
somebody with the phillies or the bullpen shutting people down,
to go out there and pretty much win five out
of six this season.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I like it. I like everything you said.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So let's let's let's stay with the pitching for a minute,
because you know, obviously the ups and downs. The health
of the starting pitching was an issue for most of
the season, and now they're healthy again. But yet the
bullpen is is struggling. How do you handle it? Are
you pushing your starters to go as deep as possible
even if they, you know, hit one hundred pitches. Are
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you trying to push them if say, if it's the
seventh or eighth inning, to try to get them as
much length as possible.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Absolutely, this is not April or May anymore. You got
to go out if the guy's going well, You're not
going to go out there and just pull them out
just because you're thinking about October is here now, So
this is why you save those guys in ten fifteen
extra pitches to use him now. So it applies to everybody.
I mean at apply Yama Molto just a few days ago,
where he had not pitched one hundred and twelve pitches,
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he goes one thirteen. Why it is October baseball plus
with the fluctuations and the struggles of the bullpen, which
by now we think they're fixed because now different personnel's
coming into the end of the flour So now you
go out there and have many choices because now you
can have multiple any guy to come out of the bullpen,
and now they're say they have to go. Okay, he's
gonna close. It's gonna be a matter of the options
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that you have an element and a factor named Roki Sasaki.
And certainly this roster is gonna look different for this
series than a different less series. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, you know, Jose Moto with us when you talk
about the roster. First, everybody agrees, and of course everybody
doesn't get a vote. Dave Roberts and Andrew Friedman get
the votes, but everybody agrees Tozaki's going to be the
closer now, so we put that to bed.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Of course that'll change if he goes out and gets hit,
then everybody will freak out again.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But let's assume he's good. Okay, then he's the closer.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
When you look at what the roster will be, what
do you think do you think they'll keep Tanner Scott?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think there's a question mark right now because obviously
he's not a high leverage guy that's been proven since
middle of the season. He's not pitching a confidence if
he's just read between the lines and just look at
Dave's Dave Roberts's face last time he pitched. He's talking
about a guy that's not pitting a confidence. You do
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not have the chance to experiment with somebody who does
not have confidence. And the other thing, too is what
are you going to use him if he's on the roster.
So all those things are coming into play now because
it is a little bit longer series.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
The thing that this series offers much different than other
series is there's more off days. So for Sasakian is
very convenient because he has not pitched back to back
yet since he'd become a reliever obviously, but the ofting
tween helps a whole lot with him and the plane
that you need with him, because if you need him
to close, you know, game one and two or you know,
consecutive games. Now there's not the push to say, guy,
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he's never done it before. But again, this is a
different monster. Bubart Tanto Scott. I just will see which
role he would have. If you're going to put a
Clayton Curs on the bullpen and know you have a
Machia now you didn't need to know the starter. So
I'm not sure that one's gonna play out well because
what's his role right?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And we've seen the Dodgers kind of mix it up,
and you know, I think Dave Roberts used to get
criticized early in his career as the manager here of
just going strictly by the book, and then as he's evolved,
he's gone with the eye test and more more about
his gut as we saw last year with with Blake
trying and leaving him in and then you know Julio
closing that one series and then Walker Buehler last year.
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When it comes to Sizaki, is he a guy I
know we just said closer, but is he a guy
that you bring in maybe you know, middle of the
seventh or the eighth and just let him finish out
the game.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Absolutely, there's a chance to doing that because he was
a starter and it was not like he was converted
to a reliever, you know, three months ago. So those
bullets are still in there. And if you consider this too,
most games are not saved quote unquote in the ninth inning. Okay,
most games are saved sometimes in the seventh or in
Das inning. So that's why we see a manager sometimes
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go to a height leverage guy in the seventh inning
because he sees who's coming up. He's I'm like, hey,
wait a minute, who's going to close? The closing is
now in the seventh inning or d As inning, So
he cannot wait to see where you're gonna be in
the ninth because now you're not using the best arm.
So now they have multiple arms that can go to
as Asaki as one of them where if he finish
has an inning for example, say you know, for the
second two outs and he finish it off, he's not done.
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He has every single chance and ability because as a
former starter, Rus's starter, he can go out there and
give you another inning. So that's the plus you have
with him, you know, besides the off days, because this
guy's not removed from being a starter, you know, from
too long. Another case, you know we're talking about Tanner
Scott is the Phillies have a bunch of powerful lefties,
right and that's always a concern as to who's gonna
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match up against him if he need it, and not
just the top but also the bottom of guy like
Bryson Scott. I mean, he's a guy that nobody pays
attention to, and he's hurt the Dodgers since he got
to the big Leaf. But if we look at Tanner
Scott and we say, well he can bring them in
against lefties, well, guess what lefties hit Plug six twenty
one against him. So it's not like the Phillies are going,
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oh they have Tamner Scott. It's clear, it's not. It's
not the same Twer Scott. Hopefully he'll find a way
to get a done if he's on the roster, and
he build us in good situations. But I'm going back
to the matchup right now. He is not the best
matchup against lefties right now, either.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Jose Motor with us all right, Jose, I look at
it like this, and Rodney and I had a conversation
about it yesterday. I really like the Dodgers in this series,
and I know how good the Phillies are. But here's why.
The last time the Dodgers played the Phillies, they hit
the Philly pitchers. They hit them, and that was when
they were kind of coming out of that malaise they
were in. So you've already seen Philadelphia's best pitchers now
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and you've hit all of them. If that's the case,
it proves you can hit them. So I think the Dodgers. Actually,
this is easier for the Dodgers than people think. I'm
not saying the cakewalk, and I think it's easy because
they can't hit the Philly pitchers low down fred easy.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Here's what I see. With all the conference in the world,
I'm going to tell you that Dodger hitters did a
very fine job against Philly pitching all season long, and
they came within I said, a hit or two to
win every single ball game they played against the Phillies. Now,
let's be careful. Now, you're not going to all slug
people in the playoffs as often as you do in
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the regular season. So that game they need to win
four to two, three to one. You have to be
so good and efficient with productive outs, playing team at
bats and fundamentals that. The other thing is after this Fred,
because of the offense, you cannot give them extra outs,
which happened the other day with the Oscar. You have
to catch the baseball. This environment here is very hustile,
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and you have to make sure that every ball is
supposed to be an out becomes an out because offense,
the way they're going right now is the highest we've
seen the confidence going back to April and May. And
beyond that is the fact that they're healthy. You know,
they're healthy, and they have guys that can play small balls,
and Ben Roberts in just trendous addition. I mean, this
guy has been so good in the about of the order,
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and on top of that Tommy Emmons factor, he's playing
big games.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I'm going to compare the series to the Potters Dodgers
last ds because it's pretty much a battle of the
best teams in this league right now, and it's going
to come down to this series in five games.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, That's what I was going to ask you. Next,
Is this the real world series? As you look at
the scope of of where we are right now, Cubs
and Brewers, the Yankees win yesterday, Is this the Act
World Series, because I do believe that the winner of
I believe the winner of this series goes on to
win it all.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think this is pretty much as I compared to
the Powers run as players even admit it. Their toughest opponent,
it's going to be this team right now, a Philies,
because they have so much to throw at you, and
they've been there before. Great history between these two balls
ups in the postseason, and I think the Dodgers have
found a way, as I mentioned before, with the starting
pitching the way it is right now and as questionable
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as it was to begin the season. I'll send the
numbers again. Dodger starters limited the Phillies, so one thirty
four average, okay, one whole run first lugging team. The
problem was the bullpen. So now things are kind of reverse,
and I know that the starters are going to be
challenging a little bit more, but this is by far
it's going to be the toughest challenge because it is
a very deep lineup hose.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Who really scares you with the Phillies?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I said, brotop people, Well, what who's that?
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's one of those guys that before you know, you know,
you get rid of Farber in Mars and Harper and
you know, and they go, wait, this is imprised some stuff.
But you know, you got a respect until you have
to College Farber. He can make an impact with you
so quickly because he can drive in a run, he
can take it deep, and also he walks, He keeps
innings alive. He's not He's got that mac Munsey in
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him where it's not just about maybe if you don't
pitch him and then pass abutime. But all those tools
they have to hurt you with the long belt. You
gotta be careful with all of them. But if I
have to pick somebody to say, don't pitch this guy,
if you don't have to as College Farber, uh.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
As far as the rotation goes, Otani goes. Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You like that decision, and and then what do you
think about the rest of the series.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I like the alternate decision because Otani has been used
more that you know, the two way player that he
is knowing that you have an update tomorrow, so his
body's gonna not gonna take up, you know, a toll
off the following day, she said, up to the game one.
So I think it's right and Otani already won overnighty
pitches he got. He's got six innings, and I think
pretty much is gonna be where he's gonna be, and
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that's what we need from him. He faith the Phillies.
Now you said it recently, and they're very well through
five innings at least what they decide after that, because
remember that Glassen was in the bullpen last time, uh
kersh was out activated, and let's see where they go
after that. But Curtly, I'm happy to see the options
because things looking in uh you know, going up definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, you say, let's see where they go after that,
wouldn't it be if we're sitting here now just trying
to hypothesize, would it be Snell Yamamoto?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yes, because of the off days, for sure, I mean,
and because of the length that you need to give
those guys the rest. So you go out there and
and so you're doing oh and one, now you go, oh, okay,
I got Blake Snell coming. There's another off date and
you're so you're up to nothing like I got Yama Moto.
See the way should line up is exactly that way?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, Okay, Well, then game four, if we go to
a game four, does that become a Tani again or
is it Kershaw or Glass Now?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Glass had and pitched.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yet I think it's gonna be Curshow or Glass now.
I think Otani for sure. You're gonna keep on that
stretch once a week and no lesson that, especially now
when every single pitch is under dress. And this is
not compared making twenty five pitches in the postseason. Man,
it's like making seventy five in regular season because everything's
on the line immediately. So I always say that there's
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gonna be a four starter, and it might be the
match of Lefty Kershaw because all the lessons they have.
But again, you don't also don't want if a guy
like Glassa to lose his edge and and get a
little russy.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, and and and you say Otani in case there's
a game five.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
That's that. And that's another reason I think you know
you you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Say Otani for one of let's schedule calls. Right, That's
what I'm talking about. Here's the here's the thing, guys too.
It is better to be talking about this the way
we're talking about it now than last season. Okay, it's
gonna beato Flowerty Bielder, which which builder is gonna show?
And also you know the Pomas had him Momoto's number
of all seasons since Korea, So all those questions mark
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the bullpen games saved them. Obviously they're tremendous. But now
it's good to talk about depth and having guys that
open in the rotation right now out of your bullpen.
So that's a relief. It is not automatic, it's not
a guarantee. Attorney, it's going to be talking about that
and say, oh my god, who's gonna pitch? There's no
options bullpen date. No, that's not gonna happen, right, Jose.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Thanks for doing this, appreciate it and joy Philadelphia. You
know the people that are really nice. I'm sure you're
gonna have a great time.
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Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh yeah, one or two and then the extra jam
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Speaker 5 (14:41):
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Speaker 1 (15:01):
Okay, as we continue in our thanks again to Jose
as we continue, there's a problem. How do you address
the problem, Well, you have to start at the head
and we'll talk about it.
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Speaker 3 (15:38):
Okay, come on, let's keep it moving, Fred, Let's keep
it moving on a Friday. Man, it's flying by, lying by.
Come on, all right. So here we are.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
We're at UCLA and we're operating the athletic department Martin Jarmond. Now,
the football program has really struggled and this year it's
just an atrocity. We can't deny it, don't sugarcoat it.
Let's just all be adults about this. It's awful and
they really need to do something. And what they need
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to do is start investing like usc would invest honestly,
and that he'll guarantee it works. But at least it
gives the impression that you're in it to win it.
They're not in it to win it. And it seems
like some of the donors now are getting a little antsy,
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getting a little antsy about what's going on over there.
And when that happens, more often than not, it's curtains
for the guy in charge, because once the people who
do have money don't want to give it to you anymore,
you got a real problem because as the ad you
got to raise money. I think we might be getting.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
A critical mass now, Rodney, I think we might be
getting to that point over there. Yeah, more more than
more now than ever. Do you have to you have
to be creative and really lean on your donors. Uh.
In terms of sports, and you know, to be competitive
nowadays and now there's not quite like the NFL yet
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where you know, you just you know, you can stack
up and and you know overspend everybody else because there's
a limit to it. But you've got to have support
otherwise in a competitive market and business like college athletics
and particular football because the most big time universities football
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is the sport that brings in and pays for everything else.
And although UCLA is you know, under mid CRONA has
been very competitive in basketball, and we've talked to him
before with the challenges they have for the basketball program too.
They do well, but but still it's a challenge at
UCLA being it a state school, they have to do
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probably more work than some of the other private schools.
But it's you know, and people I've heard people say, well,
you know, football is not the only sport at UCLA.
They do well in volleyball, women's basketball has been good
of late. You know, like I said, mix got it going,
some other things they've got going over there and sports wise,
and you know football is not the only thing. Well, yeah,
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when you got fifteen thousand people at one hundred and
six thousand seat stadium for your football games, that's not
a good thing, Freddy.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
It pays the bills. It's pretty simple. It pays the bills.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You have to compete, you have to win, you have
to put people in the seats.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Because it pays the bills, it makes the most money.
It also costs the most money because there's so many players,
so you've got to at least break even. And they
are in trouble and the problem I see is that
they can never be what they were in my opinion
ever again back in the days of Terry Donahue and
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those guys. Right, Yeah, that's never going to happen again.
And here's why, because as a state institution, with the
Board of Regents overseeing it, they're not going to commit
the kind of resources necessary that in this state.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Not here.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
UCLA is Mick. Mick is a Big ten guy. Baseball's
Big Ten. Football is not. It simply is not. And
they shouldn't be in the Big ten. They will be
in also, ran I don't think they can ever climb
out of this hole. Will they be better? Well, yeah,
because how could they be much worse? I mean, if
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they were worse than they are this year, next year
they shut down program down, that's how bad it would be.
So no, they'll get better. But are they going to
be able to compete with the likes of Michigan.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, Ohio State not going to happen Oregon, forget it.
They probably can't compete with Washington and Washington's not having
a great year. Are they gonna be able to compete
with USC No, they're not. You know what they are
in football? I don't even think they're a big twelve
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team in football, Rodney, I don't even think they're a
Big twelve team.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
By the way, the Big twelve not bad confident.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, the Big twelve can play. Yeah,
I don't think they're that. I know they're not an
SEC team.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
So what's left? Yeah, what do you do? Well?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You try to Well, the only thing is that they
get they are getting money from the Big ten. That's
the that's the that's the I guess the saving great
for them, but they got to share it. They cut
the deal with.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Cow you know.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's the problem of them being part of the U
S you see you see regions right and being a
state school is that they got to share that money.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And it's a it's an uphill battle. I don't like
you said.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You go back to the Terry Donahue days where they're
in football, they were a nine to ten win team
pretty much every year with Donahue, you know in the mix.
You know, Bob Toledo had him going for a while,
and even even Chip Kelly had some promising years.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
But now when.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You've got to compete with nil money, and like you said,
the likes of Ohio State Michigan, and those are just
the ones at the top. Oregon's USC, Ohio State, Michigan,
you know, Penn State. But don't sleep on Wisconsin in
the money they putting into that program. Now, Indiana's putting
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money into their program. Michigan State's got money into their program. Iowa,
it is they're probably what teams in the Big ten
now thirteen something like that, fourteen eighteen, they're probably sixteen
out of that eighteen maybe behind. I don't know, they
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might even be behind the ruggers. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
The thing is this, The Board of Regents overseas all
the ucs, right, and so they the state school. So
they also oversee University of California COL. Right, that's how
this all started. When they left poor Cal behind when
nobody wanted COL. So the Bard of Regents made a
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brilliant decision. They can go to the a SEC. We'll
spend so much more on traveled. But anyway, so Cal
got saved. Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Does anybody care about the Cal athletic programs?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Seriously? Does anyone care? Does anybody go, How's Cal going
to be in football this year? No, how's a basketball
team going to be? Nobody cares nobody cares. They're not
a school known for their athletics.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
The great cow Aaron Rodgers went to CAL, and Jarrett
Golf came from Cal and Marshawn Lynch came from Cal.
And and look where Cal is now. They don't care,
They really don't. That's what they've done to UCLA. Cal's
an afterthought. If I hadn't brought them up, you wouldn't
even remember. They existed athletically and in the big in
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the Pac twelve they were un also rammed. Now they're
in the ACC and the Border Regents oversees it and
they're fine with it because you don't need to win
at CAL. You need to win at UCLA. You're in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
So what do you do? Fred? How do you? How
do you fix it?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I mean, when you get out of the car, started off,
you started off with them, But you know when the
donors start to whisper and you have those meat. You know,
Casey Wasserman one of their biggest, one of their biggest
alums and donors over there. It was that Bob Myers
is a big donor, has a lot of influence at
u C L A r GM of Golden State They've
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got people with tremendous amount of money in this town.
I know everybody talks about USC and the money that
goes through there and the lumps and all that. You Still,
he's got a lot of powerful, wealthy alums as well.
They've gotten to the point where they're frustrated. And I'm sure,
like I keep throwing millions and millions and dollars at
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this and it's not getting us anywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
How long are you gonna throw good money after bad?
Isn't that the answer?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Here, here's some money. Well, nothing happened. We're actually worse.
We're actually worse. Then, Why did I give you the money?
Why am I donating to you? Where's my return on investment? Besides,
you know, fight on for the old alma mater, There
is no return on investment.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
We're worse.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We're not giving you any more money. Now, you've got
a problem. They really need to and I don't I
know if it's all Martin Jermond. He made a terrible
decision with de Sean Foster. It was a knee jerk,
make him move, sign him fast. It was a bad
call of every decision. That doesn't mean de Sean Foster
is a bad human being. It was a bad call.
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And when Martin Jermond looks back at the totality of
his career in athletic management collegiately, he will realize, by
far that was the worst decision he ever made, and
it might be the decision to end him there and
finish him off. And by the way, that's the kind
of decision that probably stops you from getting another Division
one job. That's how bad the decision was. But he
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took a shot, he rolled the dice, he had the ball,
and he ran with it. Okay, it didn't work. But
now if you're to a point where people are saying,
I don't know if I want to give you any
more money, that's gonna hurt.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
And I don't know how they dig their way out
of this hole.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Not only heard it's gonna be that is going to
be the final nail. Yeah, I have no idea how
they digged it away. Yeah, it's one thing for you
know you, But he's got Every school's got a number
of donors that fall into different categories and tears and
things like that. But when you're you know, visible ones,
big name ones start to drop out or start to
make and start to rumble. Yeah, you're You're at that point.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
And it's it's it's a it's it's a difficult watch
right in front of our eyes to see that school
that has so much tradition and so much pride.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Dwindle to where it is now. I want to ask
you a question here. Let's do this real fast.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, you have kids, Obviously they were athletes when
they were young. My kids competed. You're a professional athlete.
Here's a deal. You're a high.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
School high school football game. All right.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Uh, my team, the team i'm coaching at the half,
is beating your team, Rodney, seventy three to nothing. Mike
is beating your team seventy three to nothing. So it's
pretty safe to say that you're out of the game.
You're not going to mount some incredible comeback rally. You're
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down seventy three nothing at the half. So I go
to the referees. I'm up seventy three nothing. I said, look, guys,
let's just run the clock in the second half.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Just run it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Let's get through this. I don't want anybody hurt, but
let's not prolong this. It's not fair to the other team.
So you're down seventy three nothing. The officials come to
you and say, okay, you know what, He'll run the clock.
Just nobody gets hurt and we get done with this.
Fisials come to who you.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
You're down seventy three nothing, and they come to you.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay, they said, we're going to run the clock. The
other coach wants to just run the clock.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Right, I'm up seventy three nothing. I said, just run
the clock, right, And they asked.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You you're down to me. You're showing mercy to me, right,
So they come to you, what do you say? Yes,
you would say yes, right, yeah, I mean your kids
are getting destroyed.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
There's no way they're gonna win. You don't want anybody
to get hurt. You're obviously overwhelmed, you know what. The
coach said, No, no, we will play this game out.
Do not run the clock. He's down seventy three nothing
at the half. No, run the clock. We're gonna play
it out. They lose one hundred to nothing. You know why,
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because he wants them to learn what it's like to
lose and then win. Well, first, they're never gonna win,
given that they could be at one hundred to nothing.
I thought that's nuts that it happened in Alabama. It
is nuts.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
It is nuts.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And by the way, the guy that said no, the
coach Sherman Williams, not the guy that owns a paint store.
The former Dallas Cowboy Super Bowl champion Alabama running back he.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Was the coach.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Oh no, head coach at Murphy High School in Alabama,
said do not run the clock.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
We will take our beating.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Like men, some lessons don't need to be learned in
situations like that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
You can't do that the kids. You know it again,
what is it?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Seventy three? Oh we gotta beat seventy three nothing? Oh man,
that's that's that's rough. Oh yeah, rough night. When you
say you lost a hundred to nothing, then it that
hits a little bit harder Fred. In fact, it's a
lot harder when you.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Verse seventy three done other than versus.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
One hundred to nothing. That's a different sting. They're both bad,
but one hundred to nothing is a sting.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What in the world What kind of lesson are these
kids gonna learn going through that? What are they going
to learn?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
What? What are you teaching them?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Never to give up? Fred, Never to give up? Never
stop fighting till the fight is done. That fight was
done at into the first quarter, maybe.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
One two series in the game. I just thought that
is so odd.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It is bad. That's bad, you know, And that's a
coach being prideful and like, oh, he read it in
a book somewhere, even though he played. He read it
in a book somewhere. You never you never give up.
And that's we're going to take that to the letter
of the law. Fred, never give up, never ever give up,
no matter what.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
But my god, come on, man, Sherman Williams.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah, rible. Maybe he does own the paint company.
Maybe that was a mistake and they put that guy
in charge of coaching the football team.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Maybe maybe, but just bad, Rodney bad. All right, So
we go tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
What three thirty eight I think is first pitch tomorrow, Dodgers, Okay,
write three thirty eight.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Here eight That is accurate.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yes, yes, so six thirty eight Eastern time, that is
about that is about right. For those Philly fans, be
all liquored up, Fred, they'll be liquored up.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
They'll be liquored up at noon.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
I heard Fast say say this on Dodger Talk the
other night. They I guess they had like an intersquad scrimmage,
similar to what the Dodgers did when they had a
week off when they won the division and had time off.
They wanted to stay fresh.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
This is incredible. Yeah, go ahead, Kevi.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
They had thirty one thousand fans at their scrimmage or
their practice, whatever you want to call it. Thirty one
thousand fans. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thirty one thousand fans at a simulated game or yes,
intersquad scrimmage. They are they I'm telling you they ready
in Philly, boy, and it's they would have been ready
no matter what. But the fact that the Dodgers come
in to town, what do you think those ratings gonna
be Otani on the mound face to Philly tomorrow night. Oh,
it wins, It wins everything, right, Yeah, And I'm wondering now,
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and Kevin, the Monday game is also around three three
thirty eight three.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I think that's closer to three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think that's three oh eight.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
So okay, So the thing is this, if there's those
games at that time, that would indicate to me that
the LA games may be played at the same time.
That's gonna be the number one prime time game, Rodney,
don't you think Kevin then starting?
Speaker 7 (32:10):
The entire schedule was just released a couple of minutes ago.
So give me a second of dig del up and
I can tell you to start a game.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I R three o'clock in LA. They're gonna start a game.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Well, yeah, because it's gonna be six on the East coast.
They don't want those games starting at like nine o'clock
on the East Coast. But three o'clock can be brutal,
especially late in the game. You know you're gonna get
into later innings. It's gonna be five o'clock here, yeah,
here the shadows, Yeah yeah, all that, I hear you.
But TV is gonna dominate this thing anyway. That's how
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they're gonna make their money.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
So as of now, it looks like Wednesday and Thursday's
games are scheduled to begin at six.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Oh eight, six oh eight, six o eight.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
You know, Wednesday's game is six o waight, Thursday's game
is three.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Eight here it's the way here you talk Pific time.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Yes, Pacific time, six o way Pacific time on Wednesday,
three to zero eight Pacific time on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
For game four Earthday game, I'm surprised they should have.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I know it's primetime East Coast, but put it off.
Start in that game at one o'clock if you're gonna
do it in the day, started at one. Yeah, but
they yeah, I know, you're right, I know that. But no,
you're right, you're one hundred percent right. But they don't
want to do that, right, They don't want to do that,
all right, So we got that said.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Anyway, Tomorrow it's uh Otani starting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Hey, flaps up, Rodney. We'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right on, right on, right on, Hey, down the home
stretch on a Friday, on a Friday, getting ready for
a fantastic I mean a fantastic weekend coming up.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Let's go Rodney, Big goings on, Big HAPs, Big Aps,
Rodney down an Orange County Pacific Air Show. It's back.
It's better than ever, and it is such a great event.
It'll be offering attendees the chance to level up their
experience with round trip transportation this year to and from
the air show. Be a helicopter. You like ridding that chopper,
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don't you? Oh yeah, you're big chopper guy, aren't you.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
I'm a chopper. I love the chopper.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Individual tickets will be available and can be booked scheduling
services from Long Beach, Orange County Airport rut to the
air Show Center. How about that. It's convenient, it's scenic.
It's a ten minute ride from either airport. It'll be
the first of its kind. This is really really cool.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Have you been to one of those before? Fred the Airshow? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
No, you know what, I wanted to go a couple
of years ago and I didn't make it down there,
and I really regret not going because that thing is
supposed to be incredible.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, I uh, I did. I went to one of
the air show.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
It was a Red Bull when one of those Red
Bull you know those Red Bull planes. They do all
those stunts and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, really cool.
They do a bunch of stuff they got the planes
and then they got choppers.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
They got it.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's really just a adrenaline rush with the red bull stuff.
So I got a chance to do that in Arizona,
believe it or not. And it is.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
First of all, it's amazing and it's incredible. But the
level of discipline that you got to have those guys
and those pilots have to have as they're flying close
to each other and they're doing these maneuvers and all
those things, it is it's amazing to see. And then
the sound when you're there, to hear the sound of
those engines going, it's the force is pretty overwhelming and
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pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Ready, yeah, it is loud, but when you see what
they do and you're amazed that anybody could fly planes
that way, You're amazed that they're even constructed to be
able to be fled that way.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
And they're flying so I mean, sometimes it's feet that
they're away from each other, and not that they're not
that far away from each other as they're passing or
riding in tandem and all those things. It's it's extremely
extremely dangerous. And I'm saying those and it's manual. You know,
they're not putting it on autopilot. Right, So they're they're
flying these planes that are it looks like from the ground,
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looks like they're inches from each other. And then they
do these passes when they're coming at each other, and
it's uh, and then break off the different direction.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
What if you're in that plane and say, okay, we're
gonna come.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
We're gonna go right toward each other, head to head,
and uh when I say break right, you're gonna break right. Okay,
we're gonna break right at my call, you come in,
you come in, you come in. He goes one, two, three,
break right, break right, and the guy goes, you're right
on my right.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
You imagine you imagine you're right on my right right.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
That's like something you would do, fred Yeah, love coming
at each other, you know, head to head. We're coming
at four hundred miles an hour and we're flying.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
And I go, Freddy, break right, break right, you go,
you're right on my right. I blame you for this. Goodbye.
This is on you.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
You get this, Rodney anyway, We just wanted to point
that out. It's right event.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Let's see Pacific Air Show and Maverick helicopters also off
the opportunity to charter an entire helicopter. We're up to
seven people. Wow, anywhere in southern California, skip the traffic
and flying style, that'd be great.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Have you charted for how much? How much is it?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
All I know is you get charted it for seven
people though, you said, yeah, yeah, that kind of gets
to where we're gonna be soon enough. It's funny when
people talk about the roads aren't in great condition and
somebody needs to fix the roads, and when you deal
with the government, well, yeah, they'll get.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
That in seven years.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
In seven years, we'll be in flying cars. We won't
even need roads. We'll be like the Jacksons. Yeah, it's here,
it's gonna be here. You already got the you know,
the driverless cars all over the road. Now, I remember
I used to it not too long ago, Like what
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two years ago? I only saw them in Arizona. I
only saw those and really and yeah, and pretty much
in Arizona and now here in La you see them everywhere.
I always see a few here and there, you know,
a couple of years ago, last year or whatever. But
now I'm on the road and I see them everywhere.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
You know, you really see them on the West side. Yeah,
very much. Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
If you're traveling, if you're if you're gonna eat Beverly Hills,
anything like that, Yep, maybe West Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
West Hollywood, West LA.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
You're making that Wiltshire or Santa Monica stretch going either
either way to the beach, to Centry City to to
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, you're you're seeing.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Them everywhere everywhere a lot around Westwood and in that area.
Like you said, I went in one the other like
a month ago. I'd never been in one. Yeah, yeah,
you totally. Yeah, you went in it because your son
was in it, and you it broke down or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
That would happened with the who. That was fine.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
But it was a little jack with a jack in it,
and and the way MO broke down. No, the wo
didn't break down.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
What happened was fine. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I mean, it's freaky when you're sitting there in the front.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Of one and it and it stopped and the way
moo stopped. Oh yeah it did stop. Yeah, yeah, it'd stopped.
All right, right, Ronnie, Let's just bring on Anthony here. Anthony,
how are.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
You I'm fantastic, are you sir?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Uh, We're great, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
We were talking about the Pacific Air Show and the
helicopters available.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Phillis in on this stuff, Anthony.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Sit again, the Pacific Air Show and the ability for
people to fly around in helicopters to get there.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Phillis in on that.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Oh yeah, So yeah, Maverick is having something that the
company is called Maverick and are having something where yeah,
they're dropping people off on the beach, which I think
is fantastic and very unique. I don't think it's ever
been done before. I think this whole situation, the airshow
itself is just something that's on a different level. I
think it's one of the best air shows in my
opinion on the West Coast, and I do air shows
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all the fascinations, So kudos to Specific Air Show for
putting that on, letting Maverick taking take clients to and
fro the to and from the air show area.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
So we were talking about maneuvers and the air show
and how technical and how disciplined you have to be
and how really dangerous it is. Talk about some of
the things that happen or people will see in the
air show.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I mean you'll see a range of variety of maneuvers.
To be honest with you, I mean from from from
hammerheads to tumbles to lumps of fox too, straight rolls,
four point rolls, you know, anything, right, So you'll see anything.
You'll see an array of maneuvers. And it's that dangerous.
It might seem or appear to be dangerous to like
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a person that doesn't know anything about aviation or is
not in the sport. But we practiced almost every day,
every other day for sure, just to make sure we
stay sharp, especially during air show season. You know. For instance,
I have an airshow every weekend in the month of October,
and so that means I'm constantly flying. I'm flying and flying, flying,
And when I'm not, when I don't have an air
show and there's a break, I'm at home practicing and
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training and just getting things, getting things where I don't
have to think about the maneuver. It just happens, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well, you're yeah, since you're like one of the craziest
pilots ever and the stuff you've tried it is unbelievable.
The first pilot in history to fly beneath a jumping
monster truck. What are you doing Anthony?
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what Anthony?
Speaker 6 (42:42):
What?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah my mother My mother said the same thing. Oh yeah,
she found out. She found out later, I don't know.
They called me up and I said it was a joke.
So I got I got a call from a random
number and it was like, hey, we have something. We
have something for you. We heard about you where you
have the skills and talent to do this day to
get is maneuver. So they told me what it was
and I hung up the funk. So I fought it
was like a joke. They called me back right away
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and say, no, this is that joke. We're Monster Energy
is sponsoring this event with Discovery Channel. We were trying
to do something that's never been done before. So we
looked at it. We had to stunt coordinator look at it,
and we've planned it and now I'll see it was safe.
It was really safe. The way I was flying underneath
the muscles.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
It was really safe. What does that even.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Mean when you when you have we have a heavy
object like that of going in the Ford motion jumping
a ramp, that motion is going to continue to go forward.
It's just the laws of physics, and all you got
to do is fly at a certain altitude underneath that
that big body of emotion to clear it. And it was,
it was. It was safe in that regards.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Well man, thanks for coming on and thanks for still
being here because you're insane.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
No problem.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Hope to come back next year do some more crazy stuff,
all right, man.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Take it easy, all right?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
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thank you, great week, Kevin, terrific week as well. So
we play Monday. It's a three o'clock start, Rodney. I'm
guessing we're gonna be on in the morning.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't know, Fred, I have no idea you know
they don't always tell us, well, they better tell us
before we start. I'll tell you that folks have a
great weekend. We'll talk Monday.