October 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Ned Colletti hops on to talk about the Dodgers' issues as they face a 3-2 deficit in the World Series. We talk about which teams are actually ruining baseball - its actually the teams complaining about the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports just a two hour program for us today. Okay,
let's bring out a man who hopefully can supply some answers,
a man that will calm everyone's nerves, a man that
will deliver exactly what needs to be said. It is
the man who sat in the big chair, a friend
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of the show, a friend of ours, the voice of reason,
five time NASCAR champ Ned COLLETTI, Ned, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh goodness, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I do the NASCAR, gentlemen. Yeah, you get a little
Nascar at the end. All right, Ned, just give it
to everybody. What is going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you know what, you can never count on another team,
and they have. I thought that after the eighteen inning
loss that Toronto, I thought that we would see what
they were made of, so to speak, because that is
a really, really tough loss to handle, especially when you're
the underdog by miles. But boy, I got to give
him some credit. They are a tough minded group that said,
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you still got to you still gotta win another game
if you're Toronto. And you got Yamamoto on Friday, which
is probably the biggest the best big game pitcher out there,
and hopefully the last two complete games. Uh, doesn't staff
any of the energy that he's got. We know his
precision is excellent, we know his thought process is well
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above average, and he's got great stuff. But you still
got to win another game. This is not a foregone conclusion.
Does it look a little bleak? Was last night a
little bit flat? There ain't no doubt, but there's still
there's still time.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, yes, it ain't over till it's over one game.
You know how it is ned Momentum is a funny
thing and money games can change everything. And uh, you know,
you just got to believe Yama Moto is gonna be
Yama Moto. He has given us no reason not to
believe that in his recent outing, So you got to
believe that. I believe that, And hopefully the Dodgers can
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give him a little run support, especially early on, because
you don't want to be on pins and needles through
the seventh inning where it's a zero zero ball game
in their park. It's it's tough in that situation, so
they got to give him some run support. Fred mentioned
this last hour that if it once, it does because
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I'm I'm I'm counting on it once it does go
to game seven that rather than Glass, now who would
be the scheduled starter for game seven, Probably you open
the game with Otani and let him go as long
as you can go, because of you know the rules
in baseball. If you bring him in in relief and
he comes out of the game, then you lose him
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for the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Would you start Otani and let him go with Glass
now be ready to come in right after Otani?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Absolutely, you can't lose that bet, And especially when the
offense has struggled, especially the last couple of games, really
the last three games, you can't lose that bet under
any circumstances. Changes the game. Just his presence in the
lineup changes the game. So they'll pitch people differently because
he's coming up or because he's on base. So you've
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got to keep him with that versatility that he's got.
And going back to something that you said at the
outset of the comment, right, if the Dodgers win Game six,
the pressure is suddenly equally shared in a lot of ways.
Almost it's almost more on Toronto because they're going to
have to face Otani and glasnow, so their time, their
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game is really the next one. They've got to figure
out a way to get through Friday night. Otherwise, I
think all the momentum shifts back of the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, Toronto's got to win tomorrow.
Otherwise the momentum does ship back to the Dodgers. Ned,
they can't hit. Ned, they can't hit.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not just a struggle out. We saw it during the
season two.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, right, and they went through that terrible period of
time where they couldn't hit. Yep. But when we hit
the playoffs, the pigeon was so good that it could
overcome it. Now, I mean, what do you do here? Ned? Seriously,
I'm just asking if you were the GM right now
and you found the team in this situation and have
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witnessed their complete inability to hit, what what could you do?
What would you do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, It's it's a tough ask because you know, you
can't hit for him and you and you can tell
them all you want, Hey, calm down, just you know,
do what you can do. Don't don't try to just
you know, die a long distance here and and hit
it out, you know place, Let's play the right. You
can say that a million times, but until guys can
really activate that individually, you have to live with them.
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I mean, this is your club. You can change the
banning order around you all you want, and you can
put different guys in different spots and put different people
in the lineup to some extent, but we know who
the guys are, and your best players have got to
be your best players, especially this time of years. There's
very few teams that ever win a championship that your
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best players are not your best players. So I think
it kind of starts there and that there's been some
struggle in that group. And you know, you can have
as many conversations as you want and put everybody in
different spots, pull names out of a hat, but at
the end of the day, they got to have the
calmness and their approach and tough to do it when
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you've played all the games that they have played for
a long time now, not just this sol, not this
season and postseason, but previous seasons, postseasons. I see a
little bit of weary is perhaps hard to tell because
that can change in a minute. But you know, there's
nothing anybody can really do about this except the people
who are playing the game, and it's up to them
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at that point in time. But your best players got
to be your best.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, and don't say pull them out of a hat
in ned because that's what Fred has been suggesting, that
he goes back to the old time while you're laughing
at that season.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They might be okay in May, but I don't know
about October.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, No, And you can't do that, right, You can't
mess around with with people.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Will team will look at you like like, what's up?
You know, what are you doing? You know one thing
that you can't that you know the question is and
it's it's you know, it's tough to do so to speak,
but you know, people look at everybody. Everybody's looking at
everybody's body language. There's no doubt everybody's wondering how everybody
else is thinking in that room. So any leadership in
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that room, it's got to be confident with what they do.
Whether it's the manager and the coaching staff, where it's
the front office, whether it's the players, whoever it is,
you've got to be confident with it because people are
going to look to certain people to take to win
the next two games, and those people that they look
to got to be cool, calm, collected, whether it's Doc,
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whether it's the staff, whether it's the guys in the lineup.
You can't. You can't express any panic, and you can't
express anything out of the norm. You know, they've won
two games in a row before, and they've won two
games in a row on the road before, and you know,
Toronto's pitching throughout the entire thing, and last night I
thought the kid was phenomenal, as almost a historic performance.
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But you know, it's not like they've got Yamamoto and
Otani lined up in Toronto. They don't have that. So
if you're patient at the plate and you can you
can pull yourself out of whatever whatever your thought process
has been, or the weariness of the of the calendar,
you know you've got a good chance. You've got a
really good Toronto doesn't want to use their bullpen any
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more than a Dodgers want to use theirs, So you've
got a great chance. I think scoring early on Friday
may turn the entire series for one team or the other.
You know, I think whoever wins Friday Night wins it all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well. Scoring early is the key for the Dodgers. I mean,
when you are struggling like this, you cannot afford to
get down early. You simply can't. I mean, last night,
Blake Snell give up two home runs. It sucked the
life out of the place. I'm not saying Blake Snell
is bad. It happened. But when you're a team, right right,
I mean you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, but it happens. The other team's getting paid to
the other teams professional. You got one of the best
players in the game with the second one. You know,
that's that's sport. But I think you just got to
you got to keep with your your steadiness. The steadiness
is huge. You start looking around at room and you
start seeing doubt, you know, Rodney, you know, I mean
you've been in many, many big games. You look around
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you you start seeing your leadership start to start to do,
you know, different things, to start to look like like
they've lost their way. You know that can that can
go through a club in a heartbeat. But if you've
got the confidence to do it, and they should have
the confidence to do it. They've got tons of talent
and they've still got their pitching set up. You know,
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it's so you know, it's is it is a diar. Yeah.
I mean it doesn't look good today, but by the
time you gets to midnight on Saturday on Friday, it
might be a totally different dynamic.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, the difference like it feels this year ned and
you mentioned it. The offensive struggles have been there all year.
This is not something that's all all of a sudden
happens in the playoffs this year. We've seen it throughout
the summer. But in teams and Dodd your team, especially
in the past, it's always been that one or two
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guys that are on a heater right everybody else could
be struggling. Last year, Freddie Freeman right on the heater
in the World Series ended up being and the m
v P. I think going back to to twenty twenty,
Corey Seeger went off and he couldn't get him out.
I mean he was he was like, uh Guerrero for
them right now, It's like he's the toughest out out
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there and you better make a great pitch otherwise he's
hitting it out of the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And that was Corey Seeger.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It just don't they don't have that one guy, even
if it's one guy that's on on a heater for them.
You know, Otani had the big game the other night,
but that was the one off, and he's you know,
they're all back to where's it gonna come from exactly?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And that's you know, that's a that's tough. But again,
you know we're not talking about a team that won
eighty one games, and and it's it's almost impossible. You know,
all things are possible, but you know you do need
you do need somebody to get hot right now and
then that confidence and it goes with your with you're
starting pitching typically and your bullpen and also your lineup.
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One one guy can set the stage for the next
whether it's good or bad. You see momentum or you
see a lack of momentum throughout lineups, throughout rotations. When
pitchers pitch well, when the starting pitching is good, it's
almost like they hand it off to the next guy
the next day and off he goes in a great direction.
Or if a guy gives up six runs in two winnings,
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you know that can carry over. However that works. So
it's imperative that a couple guys get hot, because if
a couple of guys get hot, three or four may
get hot. Every pitch changes the game, especially this time
of year. Every pitch has got its own story to it.
Every pitch is vital. And people that you know that
think the game is boring and somebody you know, maybe
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they're right in their own mind. But everything can change
on a pitch and we'll see it. We'll see it
again on Friday. We see it every game. This time
of year, things change. There's crossroads throughout every game, and
you never know when it's gonna come to be your
turn and what you're gonna do with it. And if
you can change that momentum, if they go Otani and
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Mookie won two in the line and they hit Homer's
off Gosman Friday night to lead off the game, does
it changed the whole dynamic just like that, right, So
it's always a pitch away, and sometimes it might be
six hundred and nine pitches away like the other night,
but it's always a pitch away from being able to
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turn it in the direction you want it to go
or the other direction that you don't want it to go. Unfortunately,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Ned. This is very tough. It's very tough. We kicked
it around at the top of the show and we
talked about it all year long. You know what, I
don't hear people saying, now, well, the Dodger's ruined baseball. Well,
the Dodgers spent all the money. What do you expect?
Funny how we're not hearing that right now, isn't it
ned Well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No doubt. But you might be hearing it on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That's fine, I'll look for that. I'm good on Sunday.
It'll come back. Yeah, I'm good on it. So we
are hearing that now.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
What we are hearing though, is you know, it's it's
creeping its head up again as Oh, it's the coaching.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's the coaching. And we got into it with a
guy the other day. Here we are in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
At the end of the days, it's the players, and
the players got to play, like you keep saying, the
stars got to be their stars. And this whole notion
that you know, the coaches are not doing what there
should be doing, and they should be doing this and
bunting or small ball or hit the other way and
all those type of things to suggest that they don't
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go over things over and over and look at tape
and in the cage and all those things. It's it's
almost disrespectful when people say that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, players are tough to blame from the public's perspective,
GM's managers coaches are far easier to blame. But I
don't know the last GM they're tooking it bat or
made a pick, or the last manager, pitching coach, hitting
coach that took it a bet or.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Made a pitch.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And that's that's the story of sport, unfortunately, and I
know it very well. But it's it's it's easier to
it's easier to pick on strategy. If anything, I would
say this group is, if anything, over prepared. They probably
spend so much time, so much detail everything they do
that at times it may become almost too much because
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sometimes when you when you you can think your way
out of victory too and sometimes it's just a natural
reaction muscle memory and doing what you know to do
without having to really think about doing it. And I
would say that anybody says this group is underprepared or
not prepared correctly, I would I would say I would
doubt that very very much. I don't I don't think
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that's even possible. Over prepared, perhaps underprepared, no way.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That being said, you get to Toronto tonight, you play tomorrow.
If you're on the plane, how much sleep do you
get tonight when you get to the hotel.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hey, I'm not even in the game and I don't
get any sleeps. So I don't think you get much.
I mean you're anxious about it, you're excited about it.
I mean it's still a chance to when the World Series.
It's still historic, so hey, let's go. You know, you can't.
You can't let yesterday fool you because yesterday I got
no control over nobody have any control over the day.
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After you got the moment in time, what are you
gonna do with the moment in time? No matter if
you're a baseball player or anything else in life, you've
got the moment in time is all you got. Maximize it,
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Ned you let no matter you know how shaky it
may get in that third or fourth inning, as a
game is still in striking distance, no matter what it
looks like.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You gotta let Yamamoto go, don't you. Oh? I think so?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I think so. I mean you can tell a lot.
And you know when when they went to the bullpen
last night, I mean they used Snell, and I thought
after the first thing, I thought he would I thought
he really pitched great. I actually thought that the Dodgers
were going to come back and win that game because
Toronto stalled after they got the first couple of horuns.
They stalled. Okay, And when you lose that momentum, and
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you see it all the time, especially in October, when
a team strikes early, they've got to keep they got
to keep piling on that. If they stall, they are
very vulnerable. But you saw how long they went with Snell.
I think one hundred and sixteen pitches, probably way beyond
what he's done for a while. You know, that tells
me a little bit of the confidence in the bullpen.
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Where they went in the bullpen. It tells me a
little bit of the confidence of who they who they
think can do the do the job right now. And
so there's nobody better on the staff for tomorrow than Yamamoto.
There's nobody better. So maybe that's what you do, and
you ride him as long as you can. Then he
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went to complete games. You know, that's you don't I
don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing,
but it's unusual, you know, when a guy throws a
complete game, everybody's like, WHOA, how about that? I mean,
you know, thirty years ago was common. Today it's not
as common. But I agree with you. You're gonna have
to ride him through everything. And he's also capable of
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not giving up anything. I mean, that's that's as possible
as anything. And you ride it as long because you're
not gonna use him on Saturday, most likely, no matter
what he does on Friday, So use it up.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Let's go well tomorrow, you got to use everybody Tomorrow.
Tomorrow is Game seven for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. But you're not
gonna use alma motive back to back days most likely. No,
So you're riding as long as you can.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Listen what I would do, Okay, I don't know if
anybody will listen to me. Let's say tomorrow Knight's game
goes eleven innings and the Dodgers win. That would be fantastic.
Let's say Yamamoto goes all eleven innings and an incredible
earth shattering performance. Everybody is on high. You come out
for game something. I think I'd start them again. Just
keep pitching, just keep going where we are we are,
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don't stop. Don't stop until I tell you to stop. Ned,
do you think that will happen? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I'm glad you said yes or no, I'll say no. Friday,
good luck to always go today. Well that's okay, then, huh.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
This is where we're at now. It's come down to
this either way.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Don't make me block your number. Friends. Come on, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Actually I'm glad these games are on Friday and Saturday
and then not Monday Tuesday, because it would have to
deal with him Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It would be that would be difficult, all right, Ned, Well, listen,
thank you for coming on and being the voice of reason.
We always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey, I'll see you guys at the parade on Monday.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You got it, let's go, let's do it. See you
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Let's see at the parade.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, the guys, our buddy, Ned Colletti, he knows there'll
be a parade. Yes, we all do. Right, we all
know there's gonna be a parade on Monday. Let's go.
You don't hear me questioning that? And who doesn't love
a parade?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I will say one thing because you're not totally crazy, Fred,
and I never say that, but when it comes to Yamamoto.
So if you remember back in game seven of two
thousand and one, when the d Bags beat the Yankees,
Rady Johnson came in on no rest, he started game
six and came in game seven in relief. Depending on
where the game is, maybe you've used Asaki up, maybe
you've used Destin may or excuse me up, maybe you've
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used Tyler Glass. Now at that point in time, would
it be crazy if you needed to get three more
outs to bring Yamamoto out of the pen on on
on zero day's rest, considering the way the bullpen has looked.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
No, I mean you can't go to the bullpen, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Right, So I don't think it's insane. Depending on where
the game is, if you get to a game seven
and you need a few more outs that you bring
Yamamoto back in the next day for game seven after
starting game six, I don't think that's insane.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean you have to do whatever is necessary. Now,
you know, even nat he goes well, you know, you
pull the lineup out of a hat and you guys left,
I don't care what it is. Something has to happen.
Somebody has to catch fire in tomorrow's game. The Dodgers
cannot go up and have one of those one, two,
three innings guys chasing bad. You know, a little pop
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out the second base and then you know ground out
the third it can't happen, or like a lazy fly
ball to center, it can't happen. It's as if they
have to create their own momentum and they're hitting first
tomorrow night right because they're on the road. They got
to get somebody on to move them around. That's what
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they have to do. In the first inning, you cannot.
They gotta strike first, and they gotta put the pressure
on Toronto to come back and beat them. They really do, especially.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
As that as the game gets into that sixth, seventh,
eighth inning, they got they gotta make them come back
to win as opposed to the Dodgers got to fight
to come back to win.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
In the end. Yeah, they've just got to take control
early tomorrow night, and that's what every Dodger fan should
be hoping for. Don't forget Game six tomorrow night. The
first pitch, five o'clock right here in the radio station.
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Speaker 3 (22:15):
Oh yes, come on, it's a throwback Thursday, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan. I see you, Ronnie bringing them back a
little Houdini.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yes, let's go. I'm afraid what you got for me?
All right? So the Dodgers are ruining baseball, Well, they
haven't ruined anything yet. By the way, they are not
ruining baseball. And they're ruining it because, of course, people
believe they got all the money they signed all the players.
They can defer long term money, big money to people,
and that's the problem. And the problem is the Dodgers
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are able to do that and nobody else is because
the Dodgers spent a good amount a good amount of
the money they make and put it back onto the
field in the franchise. Are we all agreement? Yeah, we
should be because that's true. Yeah, let me ask you something.
So Trek's schooble is going to be up for the Tigers, right, yes,
so they commenced having conversations, and they're two hundred and
fifty million dollars apart. Two hundred and fifty million. Yeah,
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I would start there. Huh, start there if we're starting there?
Or is that just a non starter?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, here's the thing I would say, And maybe it's
just me that is substantial. It's not like you're ten
million dollars apart. You're two hundred and fifty million dollars apart.
Now listening, you could say, well, you know what, screw him.
No guy deserves that kind of money. Are you kidding me?
What a joke? Okay, Well, that's not the way this works. Really,
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that's not the way the world works. In professional sports,
guys do get paid to perform. They get paid en
awful lot of money. That's how they make their living.
Like it or not fair or unfair, right or wrong,
that's how guys get paid. And they get paid a
lot of money. So the Tigers are two hundred and
fifty million dollars off. By the way, if they let
him walk out of there, they've just lost one of
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the top two pitchers in baseball. I guess you could
say Paul Skeins or Schooble. You pick Garrett Crochet the
Reds Hawks is up there. I think Mo would be
up there too. But those guys by far the best
two pitchers in baseball, and neither one is really old,
so they're gonna get paid. So who would ruin baseball?
For example, the Dodgers. They won't. But if they went
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out and said, yeah, we'll give you three hundred million
right now, we're gonna hook you up, get over here
and pitch for us. Would that be ruining baseball? Or
are the Tigers ruining baseball because they don't want to
pay him the money? Who's ruining baseball? The team that will,
granted have greater resources no argument, or the team that
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could but chooses not to. Who's ruining baseball? The Dodgers
for paying Otani seven hundred million dollars or the Angels
for refusing not to match it. Who's ruined baseball? Is
it the Dodgers because they did spend, or the Angels
because they didn't. Would it be whatever team if Trek's
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scooble hits the market signs him, or would it be
the Tigers for not paying him. Who's ruining baseball? Rodney?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Certainly not, the Dodgers, certainly not. You know, the Tigers.
They choose to do it. They're gonna choose to do
what they want to do. Did we say this in
any other professional though? Here's the thing. If you're if
you're you're in the housing business, right, you're a real
estate agent. You're in the housing market. And you see
a house that you love, and you come in and say,
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I want that house. And that house is in a
great neighborhood. Now the comps in that neighborhood are x
but you decide that you want that house so bad
and you don't want any other competition, so I'm gonna
I'm gonna overpay for that house. You overpay for the house.
Nobody said you ruined the housing market. Nobody says you
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ruin this or you ruin the neighborhood. In fact, your
neighbors are jumping up for joy because now you raise
the level of the prices in the neighborhood. So the
same thing with you know, did Steve Balmer ruin basketball
by at that time people thought he overpaid for the Clippers?
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Did he ruin it? Did Googenheim guys ruin baseball? Did
they ruin baseball by what many considered overpaying for the Dodgers.
It's only when it comes to player salaries and contracts
that people started talking about ruining the sport and ruining
the game. If Google buys something, are they ruining the
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tech world? They overpay for a startup company that they
think can helped them and enhance them, or going in
the right direction and they overpay for it, are they
ruining that business? We don't say that unless it's player contracts, right,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I thought what you said at the beginning was brilliant.
If you've owned a home wherever you've owned a home,
and you see the home across the street go up
for sale, what is your number one objective when that
house goes up for sale. They need to get the
most money possible for that. Absolutely, if you've owned a home,
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you know this. If another one goes up for sale,
what do you say, man, I hope that one gets
more than the first one did, right, That's what you
do because that changes the market and you ultimately will
benefit from that because if everything is equal and you
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sell your home and somebody overpaid dramatically for another one,
that's going to help you because it affects all the
comps in the neighborhood. It's going to help you. Good
thing you want that you actually pray for that, But
now it's a bad thing if these guys make more money.
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Whether they deserve it or not is not the issue.
That is a non starter for this conversation because we
get ask one hundred people, they'd all go, these guys
get paid too much. So that's not the conversation. We
deal in the world of reality, and the reality is
they can get it. So if you want to hold
onto Terrek's schoble, you're gonna have to pay him. Now,
here's what money does in professional sports. It helps you
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correct mistakes. That has to be considered. The Dodgers can
make a mistake on somebody, and they have the infrastructure
because they've invested to correct that. I don't think they
can correct a bullfin issue in two games, but overall,
they have the infrastructure, they have the money to lose
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Trevor Bauer but still pay. They have the money, and
Trevor Bower made a lot of money. That's okay. We
gotta do what we gotta do. That's how they look done.
But they can correct that. They can goof and fix it. Now,
to be fair, the majority of teams cannot do that.
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The majority of teams can't goof and fix it. The
goof is too overwhelming. The Milwaukee Brewers could spend on
whoever they wanted, but they better get it right. You
better get it right if you're gonna sign a guy
to an eight year deal for an awful lot of money,
because you don't have any wiggle room. Now you have
put yourself in position. It's right or die with this guy,
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and we're expecting him to perform for eight years. The
Mets have a lot of money. They paid Wan Sodo
seven hundred and sixty million dollars. That was the worst
deal in baseball history by any team. For Juan Soda
was the greatest thing ever. But while Soto does not
bring the revenue that Otani does, nonetheless Steve Cohen has
the money to fix that, and that's a lot of money.
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He can fix it. If he chooses to, he can
fix it. So if you have money, you can correct mistakes.
If you don't have that kind of revenue, you can't
afford to make mistakes. So if a team like the
Tigers is not willing to pay Schooble, you have to
think about the overall situation. The guy pitches one every
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six days. How many wins is that? How many it
will equate to? Does he stay healthy? Do we make
the playoffs? If you're the Dodgers, you can go, hell,
we'll take them. If you're the Tigers, you've got to
be very careful. That's it. That's really the difference between
the teams with all the money and the teams with
less revenue. Big market, small market. Big market teams that
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have revenue can make mistakes and correct them. Smaller market
teams can still pay. Don't plead poverty. It's insulting to everybody.
It's insulting.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So don't look at the Angels, right, The Angels paid
the guys over the years.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh, ridey Moreno, he's still paying. What's is Anthony Rendon?
Isn't he Kevin one more year for him? That is correct,
he's still paying the guy Josh Hamilton, I mean overpaid for.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Him, right, then they made mistakes, but Pools was on
the not the back nine. He was on the back six,
and they overpaid for him, didn't they right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But he doesn't have the capital to correct those mistakes.
He had, he had the he had the guts to
go for it in an insane way. But he can't
fix it. He can't correct it. So he went for
it and made mistakes. The Dodgers can go for it
and correct anything. The Tigers can go for it as
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well with Trek skoubl, but they have very little wiggle room. Uh.
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
All right, back to wrapping up Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
two hours show for us today. As we get get ready,
it's like tomorrow can't come fast enough, Fred.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I know, do you think they feel that way too?
I bet you the players do, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I bet you the players are like, we want to
play right down yep. And maybe you know, if the
Dodgers really are the best team in baseball, and that's
what people said before the season started. Okay, well it's
gonna be tough. One of our callers earlier suggested, remember
that series for the Padres last year. Mm hmm. Remember
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that series where everybody left them for dead one one
loss in their out and they came back and won it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, well, you're it was a scary one too. You
felt almost the same way, right, You felt that wasn't
the World Series, but you felt that they were gonna
they get it, possibly to get knocked out early. Padres,
you know, split with them at Dodgers Stadium and then
that was that was the best of five, right, with
two games in San Diego that they felt that they
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could close it out in San Diego, and they didn't.
The Dodgers came back and won that series. But it
was dire when Padres won that second game at Dodger
Stadium and thinking that you got to go down and
definitely win, you know, in San Diego with that crowd
and everything and all the energy in that stadium, and
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the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Did it well. That being said, it's one game. You
play one game at a time. Look if I would
have told you, and I think we even said it,
I mean I thought Toronto would have been done after
they lost the a ten inning game, that would have
been it for them. There's just no way they'd come back,
and they did. Of course, Dodgers didn't help them much,
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didn't help themselves much in that one. But it's a
new game, it's a new day. I'm a motive. Will
be on the hill tomorrow night. Hopefully he has a
solid start, and we'll talk more about it tomorrow obviously,
But the key's gotta be you gotta jump out early,
or you've got to make a statement early in the
game one way or the other, some sort of statement.
You can't start back on your heels. You know, everybody's
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talking about the Dodger at bats or not take great
at bat. Just get back to the basics. Everybody, settle down.
You know what you have to do. A couple of hits,
and I'm gonna tell you it's gonna turn the whole
thing around. Rodney, just a couple of pops. Somebody get on,
move them down, knock them in. It's going to change everything.
But they just need some momentum early. We both agree
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they cannot fall behind. And if they do not buy
very much tomorrow, I think we agree to that. Yeah,
you know, they definitely can't. I mean, just like the
Blue Jays came out and delivered a blow to the
Dodgers yesterday with those two home runs to start the game.
That was a that was a body blow, body blow
right to start the game, that got you right in
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the rib cage and it was an uphill battle for
the Dodgers to try to recover from that. So that's
similar what the Dodgers need to do to Toronto in
their building because that crowd, you know, we talked about
crowds a lot lately, but that crowd will be the
whole game. They will be fired up and standing the
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whole game, and no better way to take him out
of it is get on that team early. Get on
that team early, the way Yamamoto did it last time.
He didn't let him breathe. He didn't let him breathe
because he was so dominant and so efficient. It was
like one two three, one two three, one two three,
one through three and and next thing you know, it's
in the eighth inning and they're behind and with no
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hope of trying to catch up. So it's got to
be that kind of performance from him.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But more importantly, to your point, it's got to be
they got to get the bats going.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They got to score some runs early in the game.
All right, Roddie, thank you, appreciate it for today, Kevin,
well done, thank you for everything. All We are back
tomorrow to get ready for the game six. So Rodney
talk to you then it, sir,
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports just a two hour program for us today. Okay,
let's bring out a man who hopefully can supply some answers,
a man that will calm everyone's nerves, a man that
will deliver exactly what needs to be said. It is
the man who sat in the big chair, a friend
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of the show, a friend of ours, the voice of reason,
five time NASCAR champ Ned COLLETTI, Ned, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh goodness, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I do the NASCAR, gentlemen. Yeah, you get a little
Nascar at the end. All right, Ned, just give it
to everybody. What is going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you know what, you can never count on another team,
and they have. I thought that after the eighteen inning
loss that Toronto, I thought that we would see what
they were made of, so to speak, because that is
a really, really tough loss to handle, especially when you're
the underdog by miles. But boy, I got to give
him some credit. They are a tough minded group that said,
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you still got to you still gotta win another game
if you're Toronto. And you got Yamamoto on Friday, which
is probably the biggest the best big game pitcher out there,
and hopefully the last two complete games. Uh, doesn't staff
any of the energy that he's got. We know his
precision is excellent, we know his thought process is well
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above average, and he's got great stuff. But you still
got to win another game. This is not a foregone conclusion.
Does it look a little bleak? Was last night a
little bit flat? There ain't no doubt, but there's still
there's still time.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, yes, it ain't over till it's over one game.
You know how it is ned Momentum is a funny
thing and money games can change everything. And uh, you know,
you just got to believe Yama Moto is gonna be
Yama Moto. He has given us no reason not to
believe that in his recent outing, So you got to
believe that. I believe that, And hopefully the Dodgers can
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give him a little run support, especially early on, because
you don't want to be on pins and needles through
the seventh inning where it's a zero zero ball game
in their park. It's it's tough in that situation, so
they got to give him some run support. Fred mentioned
this last hour that if it once, it does because
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I'm I'm I'm counting on it once it does go
to game seven that rather than Glass, now who would
be the scheduled starter for game seven, Probably you open
the game with Otani and let him go as long
as you can go, because of you know the rules
in baseball. If you bring him in in relief and
he comes out of the game, then you lose him
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for the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Would you start Otani and let him go with Glass
now be ready to come in right after Otani?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Absolutely, you can't lose that bet, And especially when the
offense has struggled, especially the last couple of games, really
the last three games, you can't lose that bet under
any circumstances. Changes the game. Just his presence in the
lineup changes the game. So they'll pitch people differently because
he's coming up or because he's on base. So you've
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got to keep him with that versatility that he's got.
And going back to something that you said at the
outset of the comment, right, if the Dodgers win Game six,
the pressure is suddenly equally shared in a lot of ways.
Almost it's almost more on Toronto because they're going to
have to face Otani and glasnow, so their time, their
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game is really the next one. They've got to figure
out a way to get through Friday night. Otherwise, I
think all the momentum shifts back of the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, Toronto's got to win tomorrow.
Otherwise the momentum does ship back to the Dodgers. Ned,
they can't hit. Ned, they can't hit.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not just a struggle out. We saw it during the
season two.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, right, and they went through that terrible period of
time where they couldn't hit. Yep. But when we hit
the playoffs, the pigeon was so good that it could
overcome it. Now, I mean, what do you do here? Ned? Seriously,
I'm just asking if you were the GM right now
and you found the team in this situation and have
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witnessed their complete inability to hit, what what could you do?
What would you do?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, It's it's a tough ask because you know, you
can't hit for him and you and you can tell
them all you want, Hey, calm down, just you know,
do what you can do. Don't don't try to just
you know, die a long distance here and and hit
it out, you know place, Let's play the right. You
can say that a million times, but until guys can
really activate that individually, you have to live with them.
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I mean, this is your club. You can change the
banning order around you all you want, and you can
put different guys in different spots and put different people
in the lineup to some extent, but we know who
the guys are, and your best players have got to
be your best players, especially this time of years. There's
very few teams that ever win a championship that your
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best players are not your best players. So I think
it kind of starts there and that there's been some
struggle in that group. And you know, you can have
as many conversations as you want and put everybody in
different spots, pull names out of a hat, but at
the end of the day, they got to have the
calmness and their approach and tough to do it when
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you've played all the games that they have played for
a long time now, not just this sol, not this
season and postseason, but previous seasons, postseasons. I see a
little bit of weary is perhaps hard to tell because
that can change in a minute. But you know, there's
nothing anybody can really do about this except the people
who are playing the game, and it's up to them
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at that point in time. But your best players got
to be your best.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, and don't say pull them out of a hat
in ned because that's what Fred has been suggesting, that
he goes back to the old time while you're laughing
at that season.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They might be okay in May, but I don't know
about October.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, No, And you can't do that, right, You can't
mess around with with people.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Will team will look at you like like, what's up?
You know, what are you doing? You know one thing
that you can't that you know the question is and
it's it's you know, it's tough to do so to speak,
but you know, people look at everybody. Everybody's looking at
everybody's body language. There's no doubt everybody's wondering how everybody
else is thinking in that room. So any leadership in
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that room, it's got to be confident with what they do.
Whether it's the manager and the coaching staff, where it's
the front office, whether it's the players, whoever it is,
you've got to be confident with it because people are
going to look to certain people to take to win
the next two games, and those people that they look
to got to be cool, calm, collected, whether it's Doc,
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whether it's the staff, whether it's the guys in the lineup.
You can't. You can't express any panic, and you can't
express anything out of the norm. You know, they've won
two games in a row before, and they've won two
games in a row on the road before, and you know,
Toronto's pitching throughout the entire thing, and last night I
thought the kid was phenomenal, as almost a historic performance.
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But you know, it's not like they've got Yamamoto and
Otani lined up in Toronto. They don't have that. So
if you're patient at the plate and you can you
can pull yourself out of whatever whatever your thought process
has been, or the weariness of the of the calendar,
you know you've got a good chance. You've got a
really good Toronto doesn't want to use their bullpen any
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more than a Dodgers want to use theirs, So you've
got a great chance. I think scoring early on Friday
may turn the entire series for one team or the other.
You know, I think whoever wins Friday Night wins it all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well. Scoring early is the key for the Dodgers. I mean,
when you are struggling like this, you cannot afford to
get down early. You simply can't. I mean, last night,
Blake Snell give up two home runs. It sucked the
life out of the place. I'm not saying Blake Snell
is bad. It happened. But when you're a team, right right,
I mean you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, but it happens. The other team's getting paid to
the other teams professional. You got one of the best
players in the game with the second one. You know,
that's that's sport. But I think you just got to
you got to keep with your your steadiness. The steadiness
is huge. You start looking around at room and you
start seeing doubt, you know, Rodney, you know, I mean
you've been in many, many big games. You look around
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you you start seeing your leadership start to start to do,
you know, different things, to start to look like like
they've lost their way. You know that can that can
go through a club in a heartbeat. But if you've
got the confidence to do it, and they should have
the confidence to do it. They've got tons of talent
and they've still got their pitching set up. You know,
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it's so you know, it's is it is a diar. Yeah.
I mean it doesn't look good today, but by the
time you gets to midnight on Saturday on Friday, it
might be a totally different dynamic.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, the difference like it feels this year ned and
you mentioned it. The offensive struggles have been there all year.
This is not something that's all all of a sudden
happens in the playoffs this year. We've seen it throughout
the summer. But in teams and Dodd your team, especially
in the past, it's always been that one or two
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guys that are on a heater right everybody else could
be struggling. Last year, Freddie Freeman right on the heater
in the World Series ended up being and the m
v P. I think going back to to twenty twenty,
Corey Seeger went off and he couldn't get him out.
I mean he was he was like, uh Guerrero for
them right now, It's like he's the toughest out out
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there and you better make a great pitch otherwise he's
hitting it out of the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And that was Corey Seeger.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It just don't they don't have that one guy, even
if it's one guy that's on on a heater for them.
You know, Otani had the big game the other night,
but that was the one off, and he's you know,
they're all back to where's it gonna come from exactly?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And that's you know, that's a that's tough. But again,
you know we're not talking about a team that won
eighty one games, and and it's it's almost impossible. You know,
all things are possible, but you know you do need
you do need somebody to get hot right now and
then that confidence and it goes with your with you're
starting pitching typically and your bullpen and also your lineup.
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One one guy can set the stage for the next
whether it's good or bad. You see momentum or you
see a lack of momentum throughout lineups, throughout rotations. When
pitchers pitch well, when the starting pitching is good, it's
almost like they hand it off to the next guy
the next day and off he goes in a great direction.
Or if a guy gives up six runs in two winnings,
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you know that can carry over. However that works. So
it's imperative that a couple guys get hot, because if
a couple of guys get hot, three or four may
get hot. Every pitch changes the game, especially this time
of year. Every pitch has got its own story to it.
Every pitch is vital. And people that you know that
think the game is boring and somebody you know, maybe
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they're right in their own mind. But everything can change
on a pitch and we'll see it. We'll see it
again on Friday. We see it every game. This time
of year, things change. There's crossroads throughout every game, and
you never know when it's gonna come to be your
turn and what you're gonna do with it. And if
you can change that momentum, if they go Otani and
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Mookie won two in the line and they hit Homer's
off Gosman Friday night to lead off the game, does
it changed the whole dynamic just like that, right, So
it's always a pitch away, and sometimes it might be
six hundred and nine pitches away like the other night,
but it's always a pitch away from being able to
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turn it in the direction you want it to go
or the other direction that you don't want it to go. Unfortunately,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Ned. This is very tough. It's very tough. We kicked
it around at the top of the show and we
talked about it all year long. You know what, I
don't hear people saying, now, well, the Dodger's ruined baseball. Well,
the Dodgers spent all the money. What do you expect?
Funny how we're not hearing that right now, isn't it
ned Well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
No doubt. But you might be hearing it on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
That's fine, I'll look for that. I'm good on Sunday.
It'll come back. Yeah, I'm good on it. So we
are hearing that now.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
What we are hearing though, is you know, it's it's
creeping its head up again as Oh, it's the coaching.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's the coaching. And we got into it with a
guy the other day. Here we are in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
At the end of the days, it's the players, and
the players got to play, like you keep saying, the
stars got to be their stars. And this whole notion
that you know, the coaches are not doing what there
should be doing, and they should be doing this and
bunting or small ball or hit the other way and
all those type of things to suggest that they don't
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go over things over and over and look at tape
and in the cage and all those things. It's it's
almost disrespectful when people say that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, players are tough to blame from the public's perspective,
GM's managers coaches are far easier to blame. But I
don't know the last GM they're tooking it bat or
made a pick, or the last manager, pitching coach, hitting
coach that took it a bet or.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Made a pitch.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And that's that's the story of sport, unfortunately, and I
know it very well. But it's it's it's easier to
it's easier to pick on strategy. If anything, I would
say this group is, if anything, over prepared. They probably
spend so much time, so much detail everything they do
that at times it may become almost too much because
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sometimes when you when you you can think your way
out of victory too and sometimes it's just a natural
reaction muscle memory and doing what you know to do
without having to really think about doing it. And I
would say that anybody says this group is underprepared or
not prepared correctly, I would I would say I would
doubt that very very much. I don't I don't think
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that's even possible. Over prepared, perhaps underprepared, no way.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That being said, you get to Toronto tonight, you play tomorrow.
If you're on the plane, how much sleep do you
get tonight when you get to the hotel.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hey, I'm not even in the game and I don't
get any sleeps. So I don't think you get much.
I mean you're anxious about it, you're excited about it.
I mean it's still a chance to when the World Series.
It's still historic, so hey, let's go. You know, you can't.
You can't let yesterday fool you because yesterday I got
no control over nobody have any control over the day.
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After you got the moment in time, what are you
gonna do with the moment in time? No matter if
you're a baseball player or anything else in life, you've
got the moment in time is all you got. Maximize it,
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Ned you let no matter you know how shaky it
may get in that third or fourth inning, as a
game is still in striking distance, no matter what it
looks like.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You gotta let Yamamoto go, don't you. Oh? I think so?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I think so. I mean you can tell a lot.
And you know when when they went to the bullpen
last night, I mean they used Snell, and I thought
after the first thing, I thought he would I thought
he really pitched great. I actually thought that the Dodgers
were going to come back and win that game because
Toronto stalled after they got the first couple of horuns.
They stalled. Okay, And when you lose that momentum, and
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you see it all the time, especially in October, when
a team strikes early, they've got to keep they got
to keep piling on that. If they stall, they are
very vulnerable. But you saw how long they went with Snell.
I think one hundred and sixteen pitches, probably way beyond
what he's done for a while. You know, that tells
me a little bit of the confidence in the bullpen.
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Where they went in the bullpen. It tells me a
little bit of the confidence of who they who they
think can do the do the job right now. And
so there's nobody better on the staff for tomorrow than Yamamoto.
There's nobody better. So maybe that's what you do, and
you ride him as long as you can. Then he
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went to complete games. You know, that's you don't I
don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing,
but it's unusual, you know, when a guy throws a
complete game, everybody's like, WHOA, how about that? I mean,
you know, thirty years ago was common. Today it's not
as common. But I agree with you. You're gonna have
to ride him through everything. And he's also capable of
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not giving up anything. I mean, that's that's as possible
as anything. And you ride it as long because you're
not gonna use him on Saturday, most likely, no matter
what he does on Friday, So use it up.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Let's go well tomorrow, you got to use everybody Tomorrow.
Tomorrow is Game seven for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. But you're not
gonna use alma motive back to back days most likely. No,
So you're riding as long as you can.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Listen what I would do, Okay, I don't know if
anybody will listen to me. Let's say tomorrow Knight's game
goes eleven innings and the Dodgers win. That would be fantastic.
Let's say Yamamoto goes all eleven innings and an incredible
earth shattering performance. Everybody is on high. You come out
for game something. I think I'd start them again. Just
keep pitching, just keep going where we are we are,
(18:09):
don't stop. Don't stop until I tell you to stop. Ned,
do you think that will happen? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I'm glad you said yes or no, I'll say no. Friday,
good luck to always go today. Well that's okay, then, huh.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
This is where we're at now. It's come down to
this either way.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Don't make me block your number. Friends. Come on, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Actually I'm glad these games are on Friday and Saturday
and then not Monday Tuesday, because it would have to
deal with him Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It would be that would be difficult, all right, Ned, Well, listen,
thank you for coming on and being the voice of reason.
We always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey, I'll see you guys at the parade on Monday.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You got it, let's go, let's do it. See you
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Let's see at the parade.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, the guys, our buddy, Ned Colletti, he knows there'll
be a parade. Yes, we all do. Right, we all
know there's gonna be a parade on Monday. Let's go.
You don't hear me questioning that? And who doesn't love
a parade?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I will say one thing because you're not totally crazy, Fred,
and I never say that, but when it comes to Yamamoto.
So if you remember back in game seven of two
thousand and one, when the d Bags beat the Yankees,
Rady Johnson came in on no rest, he started game
six and came in game seven in relief. Depending on
where the game is, maybe you've used Asaki up, maybe
you've used Destin may or excuse me up, maybe you've
(19:44):
used Tyler Glass. Now at that point in time, would
it be crazy if you needed to get three more
outs to bring Yamamoto out of the pen on on
on zero day's rest, considering the way the bullpen has looked.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
No, I mean you can't go to the bullpen, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Right, So I don't think it's insane. Depending on where
the game is, if you get to a game seven
and you need a few more outs that you bring
Yamamoto back in the next day for game seven after
starting game six, I don't think that's insane.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean you have to do whatever is necessary. Now,
you know, even nat he goes well, you know, you
pull the lineup out of a hat and you guys left,
I don't care what it is. Something has to happen.
Somebody has to catch fire in tomorrow's game. The Dodgers
cannot go up and have one of those one, two,
three innings guys chasing bad. You know, a little pop
(20:32):
out the second base and then you know ground out
the third it can't happen, or like a lazy fly
ball to center, it can't happen. It's as if they
have to create their own momentum and they're hitting first
tomorrow night right because they're on the road. They got
to get somebody on to move them around. That's what
(20:52):
they have to do. In the first inning, you cannot.
They gotta strike first, and they gotta put the pressure
on Toronto to come back and beat them. They really do, especially.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
As that as the game gets into that sixth, seventh,
eighth inning, they got they gotta make them come back
to win as opposed to the Dodgers got to fight
to come back to win.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
In the end. Yeah, they've just got to take control
early tomorrow night, and that's what every Dodger fan should
be hoping for. Don't forget Game six tomorrow night. The
first pitch, five o'clock right here in the radio station.
Listen to all the games on a five to seventy
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(21:41):
five seventy LA Sports. Are the Dodgers the ones ruining baseball?
Or are baseball teams ruining baseball? What's next?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
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Speaker 3 (22:15):
Oh yes, come on, it's a throwback Thursday, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan. I see you, Ronnie bringing them back a
little Houdini.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yes, let's go. I'm afraid what you got for me?
All right? So the Dodgers are ruining baseball, Well, they
haven't ruined anything yet. By the way, they are not
ruining baseball. And they're ruining it because, of course, people
believe they got all the money they signed all the players.
They can defer long term money, big money to people,
and that's the problem. And the problem is the Dodgers
(22:47):
are able to do that and nobody else is because
the Dodgers spent a good amount a good amount of
the money they make and put it back onto the
field in the franchise. Are we all agreement? Yeah, we
should be because that's true. Yeah, let me ask you something.
So Trek's schooble is going to be up for the Tigers, right, yes,
so they commenced having conversations, and they're two hundred and
fifty million dollars apart. Two hundred and fifty million. Yeah,
(23:14):
I would start there. Huh, start there if we're starting there?
Or is that just a non starter?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, here's the thing I would say, And maybe it's
just me that is substantial. It's not like you're ten
million dollars apart. You're two hundred and fifty million dollars apart.
Now listening, you could say, well, you know what, screw him.
No guy deserves that kind of money. Are you kidding me?
What a joke? Okay, Well, that's not the way this works. Really,
(23:40):
that's not the way the world works. In professional sports,
guys do get paid to perform. They get paid en
awful lot of money. That's how they make their living.
Like it or not fair or unfair, right or wrong,
that's how guys get paid. And they get paid a
lot of money. So the Tigers are two hundred and
fifty million dollars off. By the way, if they let
him walk out of there, they've just lost one of
(24:03):
the top two pitchers in baseball. I guess you could
say Paul Skeins or Schooble. You pick Garrett Crochet the
Reds Hawks is up there. I think Mo would be
up there too. But those guys by far the best
two pitchers in baseball, and neither one is really old,
so they're gonna get paid. So who would ruin baseball?
For example, the Dodgers. They won't. But if they went
(24:26):
out and said, yeah, we'll give you three hundred million
right now, we're gonna hook you up, get over here
and pitch for us. Would that be ruining baseball? Or
are the Tigers ruining baseball because they don't want to
pay him the money? Who's ruining baseball? The team that will,
granted have greater resources no argument, or the team that
(24:49):
could but chooses not to. Who's ruining baseball? The Dodgers
for paying Otani seven hundred million dollars or the Angels
for refusing not to match it. Who's ruined baseball? Is
it the Dodgers because they did spend, or the Angels
because they didn't. Would it be whatever team if Trek's
(25:12):
scooble hits the market signs him, or would it be
the Tigers for not paying him. Who's ruining baseball? Rodney?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Certainly not, the Dodgers, certainly not. You know, the Tigers.
They choose to do it. They're gonna choose to do
what they want to do. Did we say this in
any other professional though? Here's the thing. If you're if
you're you're in the housing business, right, you're a real
estate agent. You're in the housing market. And you see
a house that you love, and you come in and say,
(25:42):
I want that house. And that house is in a
great neighborhood. Now the comps in that neighborhood are x
but you decide that you want that house so bad
and you don't want any other competition, so I'm gonna
I'm gonna overpay for that house. You overpay for the house.
Nobody said you ruined the housing market. Nobody says you
(26:06):
ruin this or you ruin the neighborhood. In fact, your
neighbors are jumping up for joy because now you raise
the level of the prices in the neighborhood. So the
same thing with you know, did Steve Balmer ruin basketball
by at that time people thought he overpaid for the Clippers?
(26:26):
Did he ruin it? Did Googenheim guys ruin baseball? Did
they ruin baseball by what many considered overpaying for the Dodgers.
It's only when it comes to player salaries and contracts
that people started talking about ruining the sport and ruining
the game. If Google buys something, are they ruining the
(26:48):
tech world? They overpay for a startup company that they
think can helped them and enhance them, or going in
the right direction and they overpay for it, are they
ruining that business? We don't say that unless it's player contracts, right,
you have to.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I thought what you said at the beginning was brilliant.
If you've owned a home wherever you've owned a home,
and you see the home across the street go up
for sale, what is your number one objective when that
house goes up for sale. They need to get the
most money possible for that. Absolutely, if you've owned a home,
(27:25):
you know this. If another one goes up for sale,
what do you say, man, I hope that one gets
more than the first one did, right, That's what you
do because that changes the market and you ultimately will
benefit from that because if everything is equal and you
(27:48):
sell your home and somebody overpaid dramatically for another one,
that's going to help you because it affects all the
comps in the neighborhood. It's going to help you. Good
thing you want that you actually pray for that, But
now it's a bad thing if these guys make more money.
(28:14):
Whether they deserve it or not is not the issue.
That is a non starter for this conversation because we
get ask one hundred people, they'd all go, these guys
get paid too much. So that's not the conversation. We
deal in the world of reality, and the reality is
they can get it. So if you want to hold
onto Terrek's schoble, you're gonna have to pay him. Now,
here's what money does in professional sports. It helps you
(28:38):
correct mistakes. That has to be considered. The Dodgers can
make a mistake on somebody, and they have the infrastructure
because they've invested to correct that. I don't think they
can correct a bullfin issue in two games, but overall,
they have the infrastructure, they have the money to lose
(29:01):
Trevor Bauer but still pay. They have the money, and
Trevor Bower made a lot of money. That's okay. We
gotta do what we gotta do. That's how they look done.
But they can correct that. They can goof and fix it. Now,
to be fair, the majority of teams cannot do that.
(29:21):
The majority of teams can't goof and fix it. The
goof is too overwhelming. The Milwaukee Brewers could spend on
whoever they wanted, but they better get it right. You
better get it right if you're gonna sign a guy
to an eight year deal for an awful lot of money,
because you don't have any wiggle room. Now you have
put yourself in position. It's right or die with this guy,
(29:45):
and we're expecting him to perform for eight years. The
Mets have a lot of money. They paid Wan Sodo
seven hundred and sixty million dollars. That was the worst
deal in baseball history by any team. For Juan Soda
was the greatest thing ever. But while Soto does not
bring the revenue that Otani does, nonetheless Steve Cohen has
the money to fix that, and that's a lot of money.
(30:08):
He can fix it. If he chooses to, he can
fix it. So if you have money, you can correct mistakes.
If you don't have that kind of revenue, you can't
afford to make mistakes. So if a team like the
Tigers is not willing to pay Schooble, you have to
think about the overall situation. The guy pitches one every
(30:29):
six days. How many wins is that? How many it
will equate to? Does he stay healthy? Do we make
the playoffs? If you're the Dodgers, you can go, hell,
we'll take them. If you're the Tigers, you've got to
be very careful. That's it. That's really the difference between
the teams with all the money and the teams with
less revenue. Big market, small market. Big market teams that
(30:53):
have revenue can make mistakes and correct them. Smaller market
teams can still pay. Don't plead poverty. It's insulting to everybody.
It's insulting.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So don't look at the Angels, right, The Angels paid
the guys over the years.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh, ridey Moreno, he's still paying. What's is Anthony Rendon?
Isn't he Kevin one more year for him? That is correct,
he's still paying the guy Josh Hamilton, I mean overpaid for.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Him, right, then they made mistakes, but Pools was on
the not the back nine. He was on the back six,
and they overpaid for him, didn't they right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But he doesn't have the capital to correct those mistakes.
He had, he had the he had the guts to
go for it in an insane way. But he can't
fix it. He can't correct it. So he went for
it and made mistakes. The Dodgers can go for it
and correct anything. The Tigers can go for it as
(31:55):
well with Trek skoubl, but they have very little wiggle room. Uh.
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(32:22):
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
All right, back to wrapping up Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
two hours show for us today. As we get get ready,
it's like tomorrow can't come fast enough, Fred.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I know, do you think they feel that way too?
I bet you the players do, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I bet you the players are like, we want to
play right down yep. And maybe you know, if the
Dodgers really are the best team in baseball, and that's
what people said before the season started. Okay, well it's
gonna be tough. One of our callers earlier suggested, remember
that series for the Padres last year. Mm hmm. Remember
(33:25):
that series where everybody left them for dead one one
loss in their out and they came back and won it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, well, you're it was a scary one too. You
felt almost the same way, right, You felt that wasn't
the World Series, but you felt that they were gonna
they get it, possibly to get knocked out early. Padres,
you know, split with them at Dodgers Stadium and then
that was that was the best of five, right, with
two games in San Diego that they felt that they
(33:53):
could close it out in San Diego, and they didn't.
The Dodgers came back and won that series. But it
was dire when Padres won that second game at Dodger
Stadium and thinking that you got to go down and
definitely win, you know, in San Diego with that crowd
and everything and all the energy in that stadium, and
(34:13):
the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Did it well. That being said, it's one game. You
play one game at a time. Look if I would
have told you, and I think we even said it,
I mean I thought Toronto would have been done after
they lost the a ten inning game, that would have
been it for them. There's just no way they'd come back,
and they did. Of course, Dodgers didn't help them much,
(34:34):
didn't help themselves much in that one. But it's a
new game, it's a new day. I'm a motive. Will
be on the hill tomorrow night. Hopefully he has a
solid start, and we'll talk more about it tomorrow obviously,
But the key's gotta be you gotta jump out early,
or you've got to make a statement early in the
game one way or the other, some sort of statement.
You can't start back on your heels. You know, everybody's
(34:58):
talking about the Dodger at bats or not take great
at bat. Just get back to the basics. Everybody, settle down.
You know what you have to do. A couple of hits,
and I'm gonna tell you it's gonna turn the whole
thing around. Rodney, just a couple of pops. Somebody get on,
move them down, knock them in. It's going to change everything.
But they just need some momentum early. We both agree
(35:21):
they cannot fall behind. And if they do not buy
very much tomorrow, I think we agree to that. Yeah,
you know, they definitely can't. I mean, just like the
Blue Jays came out and delivered a blow to the
Dodgers yesterday with those two home runs to start the game.
That was a that was a body blow, body blow
right to start the game, that got you right in
(35:43):
the rib cage and it was an uphill battle for
the Dodgers to try to recover from that. So that's
similar what the Dodgers need to do to Toronto in
their building because that crowd, you know, we talked about
crowds a lot lately, but that crowd will be the
whole game. They will be fired up and standing the
(36:05):
whole game, and no better way to take him out
of it is get on that team early. Get on
that team early, the way Yamamoto did it last time.
He didn't let him breathe. He didn't let him breathe
because he was so dominant and so efficient. It was
like one two three, one two three, one two three,
one through three and and next thing you know, it's
in the eighth inning and they're behind and with no
(36:28):
hope of trying to catch up. So it's got to
be that kind of performance from him.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But more importantly, to your point, it's got to be
they got to get the bats going.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They got to score some runs early in the game.
All right, Roddie, thank you, appreciate it for today, Kevin,
well done, thank you for everything. All We are back
tomorrow to get ready for the game six. So Rodney
talk to you then it, sir,
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