October 6, 2025 • 42 mins
We talk about the Dodgers' game 1 win over the Phillies and what we can expect tonight in Game 2. Did Andy Pages steal signs while on 2nd base and help Teo Hernandez hit his game chaning homerun in the 7th? UCLA shocked the world with an upset over Penn State at the Rose Bowl on Saturday. Controversy surrunding the football game between Sierra Canyon and Gardena Serra over cramping.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete. We're
on early today because the Dodgers start three o'clock. So
what that means is that we're gonna jump on here
at eleven and we're gonna go on till noon. Petros
and Money will come on and take into the pregame show,
and then we will have Game two of the Division series. Rodney,
good afternoon, Good afternoon, Fred, How are you? How are
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you good? Listen? We we don't want to get too
exhausted today. We're working for an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
See, yeah, it's good. It's good. Though, you know, we
don't we don't make the schedule. We don't. We don't
make the MLB schedule, the postseason schedule, or we don't
make the iHeart Am five to seventy schedule either.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So we're here for an hour. That's it for us
today on game day. So the Dodgers are up one
to nothing in the series. We'll talk about that. But
here's what I think was really interesting last night. I'm
watching the FS one postgame show after the Tigers Mariners game?
Are we prisoners of the moment? How quickly things change?
(01:04):
You watch that show and all of a sudden, Philadelphia
is in deep trouble and what they must do to
stay alive. Now just three days before, of course this
is gonna be an epic showdown that the Phillies could win.
Suddenly after one game, the Phillies are in deep trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Rodding. Yeah, it's weird. I was just, you know, flipping
around before the show and watch an MLB with Network
and they said the same thing that this is. I
don't want to see it, but it's all three of them.
We're like, this is a must win for the Phillies.
This game is a must win for the Phillies today.
And you're right. Leading into Saturday, it was this is
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a heavyweight bout the Dodgers, or you know, Phillies can
easily beat the Dodgers, and you know, blah blah blah,
which is crazy because you think about it, it's it's
it was great pitching all around after you know, show
Hay settled down. But it's one swing of the bat,
well maybe a couple swings of the bat that went
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the Dodgers way, and now all of a sudden, all
of the pressure is on Philadelphia, all of it. You know,
I guess people expected Billy to get one in Philadelphia.
You know in this series, they're a good team, been
a good team all year, and they expect them to
get one, and that one that everybody expected was the
first one. But they forgot they were playing the Dodgers.
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And the Dodgers can throw so many guys at you
that you don't know where it's coming from. You can
for oh, oh Tani's Ozero for five with five k Oh,
we got him, Mookie him up, we got oh, we
forgot about Taoskar, we forgot about Kik. They beat us.
I mean that's that is the beauty of the Dodgers
is you. I don't care what it is. You're so
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focused on the top three guys, so focused on getting
those guys out, that that rest of the lineup is
just as dangerous as anybody in baseball. And that's what
beats them.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The thing is this, this is why the Dodgers are
constructed the way they are. Now we're in the postseason.
You know, they just wiped out the Reds, and now
this is why they're constructed the way they are. It's
funny if you've gone through this whole year and look
at the ups and the downs, and where everything has been.
This is exactly the way they are built, the way
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they are think about them.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Go ahead, go ahead, yeah, I just you know because
you said it. We've been going through this all season long,
ups and downs and people complaining and this and that,
and yes, they didn't play well. But if anybody ever
questions the Dodgers and how they do things, and Dave Roberts,
I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
I don't don't. I don't have a crystal ball, can't
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predict that they're going to go on a lining. But
if you question their methodology of how they go about
their business of saving guys, acquiring guys, putting guys in
the lineup in certain situations. I mean, I just watched this.
They're talking about rookie Sazaki as the X factor in
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all of baseball right now. I mean, so just when
you start thinking about, oh, criticize the Dodge, or just
think about in their mind they're planning for this, They're
already here. They've already been here. They were here back
in the regular season. We talked to Andrew Friedman, this
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is what we play for, this is what we manage for.
This is what we exec for is the postseason. So
just let them do their thing. They played a long game,
they always have. Yes, they played a long game. So
let's think about the opener. Ohtani goes out there and
got hit early, gave up the runs early. And please
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don't say, well, obviously the moment was too big for him.
It wasn't. They got him. It's pretty simple. They got
him early, but after they got him he settled down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So yeah, they got him and he put him in
a hole and that was a problem. But before the game,
one of the dodg you're hitting coaches told the club, listen,
this is a hostile environment. There's a chance we'll go
down early. Just stick to the game plan and play
your game. Understand, we're going to be in a hostile
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environment here, and there is a good possibility we're going
to go down early.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Just be you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Just stick to the plan, don't get overwhelmed, don't be
overly concerned. Do what we do. And that's exactly what
they did. When KEYK came up, I was sitting there
and I thought, Okay, this is it. This will be
the moment right here, right now, and I'll be honest
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with you during the regular season. I don't think key
K hits the ball very well. He got hot near
the end of the regular season because he got some
at bads. But let's all be honest with each other other.
If the Dodgers, if there was any way possible that
they could sign him September first, they would any way
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humanly possible if that was you know, if key K said,
you know, I don't want to get paid all year long,
I'll just come in here for the minimum September first.
Was not gonna do that. But when he got up there,
I said, this is it. Watch just watch Bam, there
you go. There's the double, and you're back in the game.
It's it's magical. Yeah, it is magical with him. I
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don't know anybody that comes up bigger during the playoffs
on a consistent basis than Key K Hernandez. Honest to god,
if if you could just sign him for the playoffs,
it would be incredible. So I knew then, Rodney, Okay,
they're back yet. Now we're good. This is what I thought.
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Now we're good. And then when ta Oscar hit that
home run, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You, you felt that one too. You felt that one too.
I felt that one as they were kept replaying him
letting Ria Mutil's triple go through, go through it all
the way to the wall where he kind of thought
he saw he couldn't really get it and kind of
eased up a little bit, and then it went to
the wall and it was a triple and people were saying, well,
you could have cut it off, make it a double.
He felt Taoscar was going to do something. I felt
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ta Oscar was going to do something. He always kind
of feel that all season long, because he did it
last year. It's like, just when you think that he's done,
he's over with, he comes up with a big, big
moment and I felt it with him too. But I
certainly I'm with you with the Kik thing, right, And
there are certain guys that have that, you know. And
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the difference about him is we've seen it over the years,
real quick we've seen it over the years. Is it's
been with the starters, right, We've seen startering starting guys
that start off seeing Derek Jeters of the world, right,
he's been playing. He's great all year long too, but
in the in the playoffs, he takes it to a
different level. He's done that. Obviously, Reggie Jackson, mister October
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got the name for it. But Kiki doesn't play every day,
he doesn't play very often, and yet he gets to
the October as a non position guy or a guy
that's considered a utility guy to do what he's done.
I don't know if there's anybody out there like that.
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I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I don't either, Seriously, there's something magical about him, for
whatever reason, when he is with the Dodgers, when the
stage is the biggest and the lights are the brightest,
he delivers. I'm not saying i'd want him up with
the bases loaded in July playing the Giants. I'm not
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saying that, but I sure would want him now because
he steps up on Taaskar's home run. Tell me, if
you thought this he hits it, here it goes and
you're watching and I'm going, no, that's not going to
get out of here. I really thought that ball was
not out. I thought it would come down near the wall.
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But then as it continued and you saw the outfielder
running and the camera stayed up high, I thought, oh
my god, this thing's going to get out of here.
It's like it was willed out. When he hit that ball,
it did not look like a home run to me.
Did it look like a home run to you?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
No? But when they flashed to the to the outfielders
running towards right center field, that's that's where immediately, no
matter if I'm at the stadium live or I'm watching
on TV, that's where my eyes immediately go is watching
the body language of the outfielders and watching the body
language of I think it was Beata out there, or
maybe he was ful center fielder. The way he kept
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going back right and going back and going back, I
was like, this got a chance. It's gonna get out
of it, Get out of here, get out of here.
And it went in and got out, and he just
kept carrying. But if they panned back to he know
he got it. He knew he got it. He knew
he got enough to get it out. Maybe not you know,
four rows or second deck or anything like that, but
he knew he got enough to get it out of there.
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And man, you talk about a gut punch at home
for Philly. They're they're dominating that game pretty much. Kik
hits the double, they get the run, I mean, they
actually cut it three to one. But man, they were
dominated most of that game, and they felt pretty good
getting three runs on Otani and like, our chances are
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pretty good here. You know, we got our guy on
the hill too, and man, they just took they took
everything out of him. It'll be interesting to see how
they recovered today. We got smell Zilla going today too, right, yeah,
and we'll talk about that. By the way, the lineup
is out.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Let's just touch on a quickly, same as Saturday, except
Alex call out, Mickey Rohaus is in. So now let's
talk about Dodger pitching because Dave Roberts did something that
we've talked about again. We are the assistant GMS of
the team. Andrew Friedman said that, and I will hold
that close to my heart. It was time to go
to the bullpen. And here comes Tyler Glass. Now here
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we go. They're going with the starter and he goes
out there that first inning out and I thought, this
is brilliant. I mean, he is throwing ninety nine. He
looks like a starter. I'm thinking, this is it. He
is going to get us home. The plan worked, We're
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good to go. This is brilliant. All right, he comes
out the next inning, he's throwing hard, and I'm going, oh,
this is gonna be great. I am sitting there going
this This damn guy's gonna get us.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Out of here. This is great. It works.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, well we're have you hiccups in there that at
that inning and all of a sudden, the bases are
loaded and you're like, oh no, oh no, and Dave
comes out. I'm thinking, I don't know, is it going
to leave men? Is it going to have that you know,
look in his eye. Well we didn't get to find
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that out because here came Vessia and that was critical.
Now I'll tell you why that was really important, because
Vessia has been hit lately. Now he's got a lot
of confidence. But what have the Dodgers said about their
pitching staff. They're relievers, they're suffering from a loss of confidence.
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So he's been hit and he comes in with a
basis loaded, I mean a base hit. The game is tied,
a triple in there ahead, so this is a serious
point in the game, and Vessia gets him. So now
you're like, okay, all right, Well the plan that we
had set up didn't really work because Glassnew didn't get
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us out of here. So now we'll go to the
ninth inning, and you know who that that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You thought Glass I was gonna go to the through
the ninth. Oh yeah, he was gonna finish out Rotten.
I swear to God, that's what I was thinking. Let's
go home. Oh no, two is gonna be enough.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, he's a starting pitcher. If he's got it, why
are we using anybody else? Just let him go? But
it didn't work out that way, all right, So now
here comes Roki and if you remember, the concern was,
all right, this is going to be a different environment
in Philadelphia, very different. How is he going to react?
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First pitch he throws is about two feet outside. I
have to tell you it's not like I'm living every pitch,
but I'm living every pitch. He threw that, and I
just put my head in my hands. I went, oh God, no, no, Rokie, no, No,
it's all going to fall apart right here.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The nightmare.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But then he settles himself, then he gets it together,
and ultimately they get out of there with a win.
Remember how the Dodgers are constructed. They want to wear
your starting pitcher down, and they want to be in
the game when you hit your bullpen. That's how they're built. Now,
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it hasn't been that way a lot this year because
of the injuries and the slump, but that's what it is.
They'll grind you and grind you. They want to be
within striking distance and get to your bullpen. Then they
want their pictures to be able to shut the door.
Scripted textbook. That's what happened in game one.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing. If it's like
that racehorse, right, it's like the racehorse that is, you know,
this is the best in the field and he's lagging
behind because he's letting the other field. The two guys
are two other favorites. Kind of I think they're gonna
win it. And he's waiting and he's waiting, and he's
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waiting till that third that last turn in the middle
of that last turn before the home stretch is when
he kicks it in. And it's almost like that's the
way the Dodgers play, is that we're gonna you know,
you may beat us for six innings, but you gotta
beat us for nine. Right. You may beat us for
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six innings, but there's we've got a formula to beat
you for nine So once that happens, you can feel
good for six innings. But at some point our guys
are gonna come through. And when Suzaki came in and
I was right, yeah, you wonder how he's gonna beat
When he got it going and fred I saw him
pound his chest, I was like, okay, it's over now.
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The moment is never too big for him anymore. Ever,
when he pounded his chest after a strikeout, it was
he was at a strikeout, maybe an after BUNSI he
pounded his chest like I got it. I was like,
that was a moment for me, Like, okay, he can
handle it. He can handle the big time moment.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So the doctors get out of there with the win.
One other note about the opener, and then we'll move forward.
But we have to talk about this. Somebody posted on
Twitter x a shot of Andy pye has on second
base mm hm and claimed that he was stealing signs
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which led to Tiascar's home run. You could see him
on second base and looking in and seeing the position
of the catcher's glove. Now you cannot steal signs because
they're given electronically now, so there's no way you can
see one, two, or three because they're not flashing those signs.
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So the contention was, oh, he looked at the catcher's
glove and in doing so was able to steal a sign.
So let's talk about that for a second. First, that's
on the catcher because you can't steal anybody's sign unless
you're wearing the electronic carrying device. And I don't think
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any of the Dodgers had the Phillies electronic carring device.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And we're getting he wasn't given any He wasn't given
any because I didn't see that. He wasn't given any
fingers or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, it was the position of the catcher's club and
there was a moment where Pa has stuck out his
right arm. Now, that could have been a to indicate
he was going to third try to confuse the pitcher,
maybe give the impression he was going to steal whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Really b B. People are like, I'm dumb, I'm not
an idiot. B.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It could have been I'm sticking up my right arm
and this is what I think is coming. But in
any event, if in fact he was able to do that,
that's on them. That's not on the Dodgers, and if
a Philly hitter, and if this is true, is at
the plate and they have a run around second and
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can somehow figure out what the pitch is going to
be or the location, they should communicate that they should
do that. Yes, not have electronic devices and bang trash cans.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No, I don't care what you whoever complaining, I don't
know who as I haven't seen it. But if you're
a baseball kid playing from twelve year old twelve years on,
your teammates, your man, they are telling you when you
get to second base, see if you can pick the signs,
See if you can get the signs, and there's a
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formula to relay in that to the hitter. It happens
in little league, it happens in pony league, it happens
in high school. It happens. That is not that is gamesmanship.
More so, then, like you said, having a video screen
in your clubhouse with the video camera guy filming and
then you banging trash cans because you're watching the screen
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of an angle that nobody else has but you in
your home stadium. That's different than a guy on second
base trying to read it in real time period period
but was he was he indicating to the did the
hit because Mookie was up before him.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I believe, I'll say also in this specific case, because
matt Strom, by the way, also said he did not
think Piees was stealing signs. So Fred he was looking
at the catcher's glove, he was also looking at Strom
and his grip and his wind up or something, feeling
like he was kind of picking up on that. And
matt Strom said that wasn't the case. I wind up
the exact same time, and if you go back and
look at the film, Pa has raised his arm on
the previous pitch, and on that pitch, he did the
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exact same thing on consecutive pitches and they were both
completely different. So matt Strom, who would have a gripe
in this situation, had no He says Piez was not
stealing any signs.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
It was only up and up. That's all That's all
I need right there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, but he's not the one that he's not the
one that really would say that, because what is he
gonna say. He's gonna say, I'm protecting my I'm protecting
the pictures, so there's no way he's gonna steal them.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, or the guys i'd meant to have tipping pitches
or things happening in the past.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That yeah, after the fact. But he's not gonna say
it right after the game because he doesn't know really
right after game after you really studied it. And he
tweeted this yesterday frame.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He tweeted this yesterday, tweeted yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But it's still early. It's still early for him to say, yeah,
I was tipping my pitches. That would be a bad
thing for him to say right now. Yeah, I don't
know if I don't think he's saying that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, he could say nothing, and he at least went
out and said that. He could have just said nothing
at all and just let it go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, the guy's going to defend themselves. No, I wasn't
tipping my picture what he called it. No, he wasn't
picking from me. No, I'm very careful about you know,
close in my glove and not giving away anything that
I'm throwing.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, realistically, what could he say? Yeah, he got me. Ya,
gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
He got me. That's on me. I gave up a
whole run.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We lost the game because they were able to steal
steal my pitch because I was.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But if you could never say that, never say that.
But if you watch it, not only is he sticking
out his arm, but he's leaning his head, my head,
leaning his head to try to get a better angle
of looking at the picture. I mean, that's that's that's twice.
I mean it's the hand going out with the signal,
but he's also leaning, leaning his head over to try
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to figure out, Okay, can I see this? Can I
not see this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Even if we were to say this argument like it's
not illegal, but because they've been doing this for years,
so there's no technology involved. So even if he was
quote unquote stealing it, to your point, Fred, that's on them.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean, stop whing is. Stop didn't get they
didn't wind.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Though they didn't wind, they had no whine.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I don't feel anything. Their fan base, Yeah, that was
that tweet. Their fan base, right, they get it. If
he's tipping pitches, he's not gonna whine about somebody being
able to figure out what it is. He'd look like
an idiot. You can't do that. I gotta be honest
with you. I tipped all my pitches and Paul has
was on second and leaned in and saw it and
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relayed the signal. They hit a home run. He's never
going to admit that, ever, because if he was doing it,
I assure you they're going to do everything humanly possible
to make sure it doesn't happen again. He's certainly not
going to give them, the Dodgers, the psychological pleasure of
knowing that they got him. They would never do that anyway.
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In our group text Kevin and Rodney, as you know,
I told you that this would be easier for the Dodgers,
and people think, oh, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And by the way, Saturday was so easy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You know, I crafted a text to your Fred and
I forgot to get sin so that's on me, and
I knew this was going to come up, so I
just reserved my co for the show.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
What oh, this is going to be so easy, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yes, that's one gentleman. That's one right, Look.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, nice and easy work by the way down three
nothing going into the sixth there, Fred for Wright, he
had him right where they wanted him, right, that's exactly
where they wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
To don't get I mean you got cocky before it start.
Don't get over cocky now don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, here's what I'm going to tell you now for
Game two tonight. It smells Zella your man Rodney. Yes,
he's on the hill, Yes, dominant.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And Philadelphia is going to go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I'm looking at this with heyesus Lozardo, So you go, Well,
this guy's had a hell of a year. I mean,
this guy has had one of the best years of
his career. I'm going to tell you this right now.
They are going to get him tonight. And I know
this for a fact. Why would I know, because not
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only did my fantasy baseball team win the championship, thank you,
I you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
All Right, It's been a while, but I won this year.
Guess who was on my team? Lozardo. I watched him
all year long. I watched almost every game he pitched.
And I will tell you if he is on he's
going to be a bit of a problem. But if
he is what he has been, which is wildly inconsistent,
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they are going to tattoo him tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Mm hmm. I am telling you that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, I heard h Wait a minute, dismissive. I just
make this statement, Kevin. Wait, what do you think, Kevin
before Rodney, you go, since we know what you think, well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Captain obvious, I think, yeah, if he's if he's on,
he's on. If he's not, he's not. That's nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, you know what. At least I take one dand
want a damn At least I took a stand. I'm
telling everybody else is like, oh my god, Lozardo, it'll
be fine, go ahead and get over confident, Fred.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Say go ahead. No, Vassi said Will Smith is catching.
He said, Will Smith is in the lineup. I heard
it on the radio earlier today when I was around.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The team put out the lineup and Rodford is in there.
So I don't know if Will Smith was a late
scratch or what. But the official line of police as
of now, these things can't change. But as of now
Rodford is in there.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Interesting. Yeah, yeah, he was making a big deal about
it with Snell, Snell and Smith as the battery.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
When we'll see when Will Smith came in the other night. Yeah,
when he came in the other night, what'd you think
I thought?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Everything in my mind had change when he came in.
And I'm I don't know why, I just thought, oh
my god, now Will Smith is back. Don't you feel
really different when he's in the game. Oh yeah, seriously,
I mean just even receiving the ball and Rtvetter has
done a good job, but everything they're a different team
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and he is. He looks like a star and you
don't appreciate that when you see hm every day, but
when you haven't seen him for a while, and.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Both sides right, he you know he had to not
great strakeout, but but behind the play you feel so
confident with That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it was
like this. They're they're unbeatable now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So if he had been in the lineup, Kevin, I
don't know, maybe they scratched him, but he'll be available
to pin channel bet you probably.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
The weird thing for me is going into game one
and I don't I guess what's your assessment on this?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I know we have to break here, Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So they said before first pitch that Will Smith was
gonna get in the game, regardless of the situation that
I just found that to be odd. If road Fitt
was two for two with two home runs, you were
gonna pull him out to what will Smith in? It's
just weird to be that you would telegraph they're planning
to put will Smith.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Maybe as a pinch hitter. Kevin not necessarily to catch it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, they made it seem as Okay, they made it
seem as if he's gonna get in this game at
some point early on. They didn't make it seem like
a pinch hitter in the eighth or ninth inning, like
he's gonna get some legit playing time in this game.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And I just thought that was a weird thing to say.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I just think by mentioning the fact he could go
in the game, it is a huge psychological boost for
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, are you real quick? Are you? Are you? I
know it's lefty for them, you know, lefty, lefty. They
got a lot of lefties that Max Munsey's not gonna
be in. Mickey Rose is going to start third base
at a max and they saving Max for a pinch
hit situation. I'm sure they are lefty lefty situation, lefty righty. Yeah, yeah,
(27:26):
I'm sure they are. I mean, look, Lizardo, they're gonna
beat him tonight, so I know what he did during
the regular season. I see the stats. I just thought
on MLB Network. They can't they can't come back to
Dodgers Stadium O two oh right in a five game series.
(27:47):
This is critical.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, I will say this.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
By the way, the Phillies and Dodgers last time they played,
we had this pitching matchup Blake Snow versus hezeus Lozardo. Okay,
and the Dodgers won five nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Mm hmm okay.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
He doesn't necessarily mean anything for but that's that was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Necessaries that Dodger Stadium. The series means everything to me.
What do you mean, doesn't mean that's when the Dodgers
started to start to play better.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
How was at that game? Yeah, that was the only
game that the Dodgers were able to capture.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, the Dodgers lost two out of three from Philly. Yeah,
but they did win that game against Lizardo. Yeah, but
they lost because of the bullpen, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It doesn't matter how you lose, you lost. So, I mean,
especially these days here in the postseason. So the important
thing is Blake Snow. And this is something vast As
said as well. He owns the top of the phillip.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, owns them and has let's let's hope he owns
them today.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know you're right, Rodney, and and maybe all of
those analysts are right as well. However, this thing started
to get to this point, Yeah, they'll be dead if
they're down ZHO two.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it will be over. Yeah, it would think about it. Yeah,
because game even if it gets to well, game three
is Yamamoto back here. M hm right, mm hmm, and
four is up in the air. But and then five
you're gonna have everybody available for five yep for the Dodgers. Yeah,
(29:15):
this is this is a big one for the Phillies.
They got to have this one, all.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Right, Kevin Jelling, Ronnie's give us dirty looks. I know
we're only on for an hour hour break, that's what
you get when we're only on for an hour. We
have a lot to say about this game. Okay, when
we come back a shocking upset and one team needs
to be relegated out of its league, that's next.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh yeah, here we go quick. I mean I'm talking.
This is not a four hundred meters this is not
two hundred meters. This is one hundred meters dash Hussein
boat today for us one hour, one hour for us today.
As we get ready for the Dodgers early this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
All right, so anyway, apologies here, I have to apologize.
I made a statement. I could still be right, but
there's a possibility now I'll be wrong. They heard you, though, Fred, Well,
they heard well. Yeah, Ucla, I said, would not win
two games, would be lucky to win two games this year, lucky.
I said they look like a Division III college football team,
(30:19):
that they shouldn't even be a Division one college football team.
I said that. Then they go out and they beat
Penn State, ranked sixth in the country. So credit where
credit is due, for whatever reason, on that Saturday, Ucla
beat the sixth ranked team in the country. And when
I mentioned to Kevin I wanted to talk about this today,
(30:41):
he said, are you going to give ucl any credit?
Are you at least going to be kind enough to
do that?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did I do that? Kevin? Did I give you Cla credit?
He was waiting. We don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He's speechless. He can't even discuss it. It's too overwhelming
to him. Yeah, give him credit, give him credit. They'd
be a very very good team. Could that be the
start of something? I don't know, No one really knows,
but at least on that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They can all walk.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Away with their heads held high knowing that they beat
the sixth ranked team in the country and they're one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, So I heard some people say, well, what does
this say more about UCLA? Does this say more about
Penn State? Everybody had them over raped all right, right,
because this is the second straight loss. I mean, they
lost the Oregon at home in the white out back there,
which is Oregon is to me, Oregon's the best team
in the country. I mean, people a canna talk about
Ohio State and Georgia and all that, but Oregon is
(31:38):
on a different level. If you have to play them
in a neutral site or you play them in Oregon,
you're in trouble. So they went back and beat Penn
State in overtime, and you think, okay, Penn State's still
that Then Penn State comes out here and I don't
know if it's a hangover of that loss or traveling
all across the country, but used to they dominated them.
They dominated them and then kind of let them back
(31:59):
in the game. And then yet you know, you you
were concerned a little bit, but they dominated them. And
is this the the the one moment for uclat to
your point of you know, they're only gonna win two
games or they're only going to win one game here
and there? Did they shoot it? Did they shoot it
(32:19):
in this game against Penn State? And they go back
to being UCLA after this?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well that's the question credit where credit is due again
acknowledging that UCLA did that? Yeah, are they a much
better team than they were?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well they have to be because they couldn't have been
much worse. Correct, all right, so that was a good Saturday.
I'm confused though, who who's the head coach of UCLA?
I'm not sure it is new Heil the head coach. No,
I mean he's I know he's a coordinate. Didn't call
him plays and all that play call him? I have
no idea who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Did you see the end they carried him off the field, Well,
they carried new Hiel off to keV. He's not the
head coach, He's not the interim is he not sure? Honestly?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
No, he's Tim Skipper is his name? Who was the
interest coach?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Jerry new Heiseel was the tight ends coach and when
they blew out Deshaun and the offensive coordinator A Tinos
in Surrey. They elevated Jerry new Heiseel to see, which
happened on Tuesday. By the way, so Tuesday and Saturday
yet to put a game plan together, and they had
their best offensive output by far the season.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
So I think that's why.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
They're lauding in some sort of hero because they could
not have looked any worse than they did against Northwestern
or New Mexico or anybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
All of a sudden, they're moving the ball up and
down the field on penn.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Stad and Jerry. But yeah, Jerry played their dad. Obviously,
Rick played at UCLA. Jerry was a backup quarterback at
UCLA and his coach there, so he's very familiar with
the program and very passionate about the program. I thought
it was just interesting that, I know, the offensive output
was crazy, and Nico finally looked like Nico like everybody
thought he would. But just carrying Jerry new Heeiseel off
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the field, did they carry Tim Skipper off the field too?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, didn't see that either. It's kind of like when
the Bears won the Super Bowl. They cut it, carried
Buddy Ryan off the field. Both Buddy and Dick were
being carried off the field. It just did. It was
a little bit weird.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Okay, well that was weird, and now this might sound weird,
but I'm sorry. You know, in a world with no rules,
there's chaos, and we cannot have chaos. So Penn State
must be relegated now to a different conference. They must
be relegated out of.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The Big Ten. They're done. What why, Freddy?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Because you can't I don't care what happens recover from that.
They have to be relegated. I'm sorry, James Franklin. I
get it, you know, and the spirit of Penn State
makes sense. You gotta go after that. You should not
show your face.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Your fans should show up wearing bags on their heads
like the New Orleans Aints fans did. That's how bad
that was. You're the sixth ranked team of the country.
Are you over ranked?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I don't know. If you're number six, you're supposed to
be pretty good. What are you? The West High Thunderbirds.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
When I went to high school, when we were ranked
third in the state and everybody thought this is our
year and then we lose like twenty two games in
a row. Were we over ranked? When we were third
in the state. We lost all those games, No, because
we sucked the year before. Luckily we got in there
with Penn State. You expect them to be competitive, you
(35:33):
expect them to be there. You can't lose a game
like that, Rodney, I don't care. You cannot lose to
UCLA if you're Penn State.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, you really can't. Now you can always say that
at the professional level because there's professional players and every
teams got really good players. It's just a team thing
sometimes and just chemistry, or you don't have the quarterback,
but there's players there, whereas in college there's the have
and have nots, and you know, you pretty much can
(36:05):
dictate who's gonna beat who. This is, you know, two
top teams playing together. But if it's a top team
and you know, no offense to UCLA, but UCLA, you
should never I don't care if you're playing at And
on top of that, it's not like you're going into
a very hostile environment, you know, and you've got to
worry about the crowd, noise and the student section and
(36:27):
everybody going crazy regardless of that school score. Because it's
a big, big name program coming to town. So everybody's excited.
They got pep rallies on campus on Friday and you're
ready to go. No, that's not the case. I don't
know how many people were in the stands, but it
looked empty at the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And everyone's probably the announced attendants thirty one.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Thirty one, Yeah, thirty it was probably State exactly. That's
what I was going to say. Twenty of us, probably
Penn State fans. So it wasn't a hostile environment. So yeah,
you're right, Fred. You cannot you cannot. You cannot lose
a game like that.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, all right, So congratulations to Penn State. They're now
in the Mountain West Conference. Their schedule will be altered
next day, will play NAU Northern Arizonia University. Can't have that,
you just can't. I mean, there are some things you
can do, some things you can't. You can't have that.
That was pretty bad. Do we want to talk about
this real quick? Let's just do it real fast here, ridey.
(37:19):
The high school football games, Sierra Canyon and Sarah battling
Jay Sarah Sarah Kidds during the game are suffering from cramps, dehydration.
A lot of them go down end of the game.
What does Sierra Canyon. Do Sierra Canyon pounds them by
the way they go down all complaining are cramps rolling
around on the field. Kind of taking a shot at
(37:40):
the Sarah kids who went down with cramps during the game.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, no, no, And then we can say so the Sarah.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Kids were getting we're cramping, Yeah, doing a whole game,
marry your Canyon where and Serra Canyon runs the no
huddle up temple offense. So it's just like the temple
is part of the problem. And to be fair, there
are a lot of coaches, not at just high school level,
but pro level as well, and some I've seen in
(38:12):
the professional level that see a team that's moving like
that and going up and down the field or that's
the that's their offense and that's their mo that they'll
find ways to slow that down, whether it be you know,
guys going down for minor injuries or checking with the
ref or doing something to slow it down to throw
(38:34):
them off the temple.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I gotta believe it was discussed, Okay, I hear it,
So they took it to a different levels what I'm hearing. Yeah,
but you can't do that. You can't.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And even if you're trying to slow them down. You
beat them, you pounded them into the ground. So you
didn't you didn't like the Sarah kids cramping on purpose,
or you thought it was legitimate that they were cramping.
I think that you could have October Fred, I understand,
but there's still warmth. I think I think you could
(39:08):
make the argument that maybe some of those Sarah kids
cramped a little bit, but the entire Sierra Canyon team.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Cannot go down and do No, you can't do that.
Come on minute, and is really chicken you know what? Yeah, yeah,
I know he can't do that. Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
By the way, somebody told me to say hello to you,
and I'm gonna do it right now, so I don't
forget somebody who said they played with you usc John.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Page, Yeah, big sexy? Is that what he was called?
Big sexy? John Paid. The freak was what he was
called the freak. He was called the freak. Yes, Oh,
tell me more, because I'm gonna talk to him. Go ahead,
I'm not telling you more on air, think the freak.
(39:52):
I'm gonna tell you that on air. In college, we
called him the freak. And you want me to say
that over the airways? Freck? Oh? Yeah, because I I
want you to embarrass him. No, just call him the freak. Okay, Hey,
what's a freak?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna let him know that
you said that, great guy though. Okay, well, I'm gonna
reach out to the freak. Yeah, and then we'll come
back and wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh yes, take me on out, Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
on a quick quick Monday playoff, red playoff.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, so we have like a ninety seconds left before
we have to get off the air. But I'm gonna
do the Dodger as a favor because that's who I am.
I'm in it to win it, Rodney. Oh boy, I'm
in it. And I've done a little scouting. I don't
know if they're aware of this or not, but I'm
going to tell you right now. He'zus Lozardo throws his
(40:49):
sweeper sixty percent of the time. There, I said it.
I said it publicly. He throws his sweeper sixty percent
of the time. One of the second pitch he throws
his breaking ball, his breaking ball. Now I can I
(41:09):
can tell you that those are his go two pitches,
the sweeper, breaking ball. Yeah, and I'm going to tell
you maybe, Look, I don't know. I'm just saying I
have done some research, and I don't know. If the
Dodgers are aware of this breaking ball, and the breaking
ball is a sweeper, fair enough, then he throws out
one hundred and four percent of the time if you
total it up. But here's how I know. You might
(41:31):
think I've studied a lot of tape. But the reason
I can share this information with the Dodgers is because
they just had it on MLB Network. That's what he does.
He throws the sweeper and the breaking ball. And I'll
say this, yea, if the Dodgers knew that, Fran, if
MLB Network knows, I gotta tell you I think the
(41:55):
Dodgers know too. Tomorrow when we talk, you'll say, I
can't believe it. You were right again. You were right again? Hey,
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Speaker 2 (42:21):
That's it for us today. Come on,
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete. We're
on early today because the Dodgers start three o'clock. So
what that means is that we're gonna jump on here
at eleven and we're gonna go on till noon. Petros
and Money will come on and take into the pregame show,
and then we will have Game two of the Division series. Rodney,
good afternoon, Good afternoon, Fred, How are you? How are
(00:24):
you good? Listen? We we don't want to get too
exhausted today. We're working for an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
See, yeah, it's good. It's good. Though, you know, we
don't we don't make the schedule. We don't. We don't
make the MLB schedule, the postseason schedule, or we don't
make the iHeart Am five to seventy schedule either.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So we're here for an hour. That's it for us
today on game day. So the Dodgers are up one
to nothing in the series. We'll talk about that. But
here's what I think was really interesting last night. I'm
watching the FS one postgame show after the Tigers Mariners game?
Are we prisoners of the moment? How quickly things change?
(01:04):
You watch that show and all of a sudden, Philadelphia
is in deep trouble and what they must do to
stay alive. Now just three days before, of course this
is gonna be an epic showdown that the Phillies could win.
Suddenly after one game, the Phillies are in deep trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Rodding. Yeah, it's weird. I was just, you know, flipping
around before the show and watch an MLB with Network
and they said the same thing that this is. I
don't want to see it, but it's all three of them.
We're like, this is a must win for the Phillies.
This game is a must win for the Phillies today.
And you're right. Leading into Saturday, it was this is
(01:43):
a heavyweight bout the Dodgers, or you know, Phillies can
easily beat the Dodgers, and you know, blah blah blah,
which is crazy because you think about it, it's it's
it was great pitching all around after you know, show
Hay settled down. But it's one swing of the bat,
well maybe a couple swings of the bat that went
(02:05):
the Dodgers way, and now all of a sudden, all
of the pressure is on Philadelphia, all of it. You know,
I guess people expected Billy to get one in Philadelphia.
You know in this series, they're a good team, been
a good team all year, and they expect them to
get one, and that one that everybody expected was the
first one. But they forgot they were playing the Dodgers.
(02:29):
And the Dodgers can throw so many guys at you
that you don't know where it's coming from. You can
for oh, oh Tani's Ozero for five with five k Oh,
we got him, Mookie him up, we got oh, we
forgot about Taoskar, we forgot about Kik. They beat us.
I mean that's that is the beauty of the Dodgers
is you. I don't care what it is. You're so
(02:51):
focused on the top three guys, so focused on getting
those guys out, that that rest of the lineup is
just as dangerous as anybody in baseball. And that's what
beats them.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The thing is this, this is why the Dodgers are
constructed the way they are. Now we're in the postseason.
You know, they just wiped out the Reds, and now
this is why they're constructed the way they are. It's
funny if you've gone through this whole year and look
at the ups and the downs, and where everything has been.
This is exactly the way they are built, the way
(03:24):
they are think about them.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Go ahead, go ahead, yeah, I just you know because
you said it. We've been going through this all season long,
ups and downs and people complaining and this and that,
and yes, they didn't play well. But if anybody ever
questions the Dodgers and how they do things, and Dave Roberts,
I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
I don't don't. I don't have a crystal ball, can't
(03:47):
predict that they're going to go on a lining. But
if you question their methodology of how they go about
their business of saving guys, acquiring guys, putting guys in
the lineup in certain situations. I mean, I just watched this.
They're talking about rookie Sazaki as the X factor in
(04:08):
all of baseball right now. I mean, so just when
you start thinking about, oh, criticize the Dodge, or just
think about in their mind they're planning for this, They're
already here. They've already been here. They were here back
in the regular season. We talked to Andrew Friedman, this
(04:28):
is what we play for, this is what we manage for.
This is what we exec for is the postseason. So
just let them do their thing. They played a long game,
they always have. Yes, they played a long game. So
let's think about the opener. Ohtani goes out there and
got hit early, gave up the runs early. And please
(04:50):
don't say, well, obviously the moment was too big for him.
It wasn't. They got him. It's pretty simple. They got
him early, but after they got him he settled down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So yeah, they got him and he put him in
a hole and that was a problem. But before the game,
one of the dodg you're hitting coaches told the club, listen,
this is a hostile environment. There's a chance we'll go
down early. Just stick to the game plan and play
your game. Understand, we're going to be in a hostile
(05:24):
environment here, and there is a good possibility we're going
to go down early.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Just be you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Just stick to the plan, don't get overwhelmed, don't be
overly concerned. Do what we do. And that's exactly what
they did. When KEYK came up, I was sitting there
and I thought, Okay, this is it. This will be
the moment right here, right now, and I'll be honest
(05:50):
with you during the regular season. I don't think key
K hits the ball very well. He got hot near
the end of the regular season because he got some
at bads. But let's all be honest with each other other.
If the Dodgers, if there was any way possible that
they could sign him September first, they would any way
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humanly possible if that was you know, if key K said,
you know, I don't want to get paid all year long,
I'll just come in here for the minimum September first.
Was not gonna do that. But when he got up there,
I said, this is it. Watch just watch Bam, there
you go. There's the double, and you're back in the game.
It's it's magical. Yeah, it is magical with him. I
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don't know anybody that comes up bigger during the playoffs
on a consistent basis than Key K Hernandez. Honest to god,
if if you could just sign him for the playoffs,
it would be incredible. So I knew then, Rodney, Okay,
they're back yet. Now we're good. This is what I thought.
(06:58):
Now we're good. And then when ta Oscar hit that
home run, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You, you felt that one too. You felt that one too.
I felt that one as they were kept replaying him
letting Ria Mutil's triple go through, go through it all
the way to the wall where he kind of thought
he saw he couldn't really get it and kind of
eased up a little bit, and then it went to
the wall and it was a triple and people were saying, well,
you could have cut it off, make it a double.
He felt Taoscar was going to do something. I felt
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ta Oscar was going to do something. He always kind
of feel that all season long, because he did it
last year. It's like, just when you think that he's done,
he's over with, he comes up with a big, big
moment and I felt it with him too. But I
certainly I'm with you with the Kik thing, right, And
there are certain guys that have that, you know. And
(07:45):
the difference about him is we've seen it over the years,
real quick we've seen it over the years. Is it's
been with the starters, right, We've seen startering starting guys
that start off seeing Derek Jeters of the world, right,
he's been playing. He's great all year long too, but
in the in the playoffs, he takes it to a
different level. He's done that. Obviously, Reggie Jackson, mister October
(08:06):
got the name for it. But Kiki doesn't play every day,
he doesn't play very often, and yet he gets to
the October as a non position guy or a guy
that's considered a utility guy to do what he's done.
I don't know if there's anybody out there like that.
(08:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I don't either, Seriously, there's something magical about him, for
whatever reason, when he is with the Dodgers, when the
stage is the biggest and the lights are the brightest,
he delivers. I'm not saying i'd want him up with
the bases loaded in July playing the Giants. I'm not
(08:51):
saying that, but I sure would want him now because
he steps up on Taaskar's home run. Tell me, if
you thought this he hits it, here it goes and
you're watching and I'm going, no, that's not going to
get out of here. I really thought that ball was
not out. I thought it would come down near the wall.
(09:12):
But then as it continued and you saw the outfielder
running and the camera stayed up high, I thought, oh
my god, this thing's going to get out of here.
It's like it was willed out. When he hit that ball,
it did not look like a home run to me.
Did it look like a home run to you?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
No? But when they flashed to the to the outfielders
running towards right center field, that's that's where immediately, no
matter if I'm at the stadium live or I'm watching
on TV, that's where my eyes immediately go is watching
the body language of the outfielders and watching the body
language of I think it was Beata out there, or
maybe he was ful center fielder. The way he kept
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going back right and going back and going back, I
was like, this got a chance. It's gonna get out
of it, Get out of here, get out of here.
And it went in and got out, and he just
kept carrying. But if they panned back to he know
he got it. He knew he got it. He knew
he got enough to get it out. Maybe not you know,
four rows or second deck or anything like that, but
he knew he got enough to get it out of there.
(10:12):
And man, you talk about a gut punch at home
for Philly. They're they're dominating that game pretty much. Kik
hits the double, they get the run, I mean, they
actually cut it three to one. But man, they were
dominated most of that game, and they felt pretty good
getting three runs on Otani and like, our chances are
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pretty good here. You know, we got our guy on
the hill too, and man, they just took they took
everything out of him. It'll be interesting to see how
they recovered today. We got smell Zilla going today too, right, yeah,
and we'll talk about that. By the way, the lineup
is out.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Let's just touch on a quickly, same as Saturday, except
Alex call out, Mickey Rohaus is in. So now let's
talk about Dodger pitching because Dave Roberts did something that
we've talked about again. We are the assistant GMS of
the team. Andrew Friedman said that, and I will hold
that close to my heart. It was time to go
to the bullpen. And here comes Tyler Glass. Now here
(11:13):
we go. They're going with the starter and he goes
out there that first inning out and I thought, this
is brilliant. I mean, he is throwing ninety nine. He
looks like a starter. I'm thinking, this is it. He
is going to get us home. The plan worked, We're
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good to go. This is brilliant. All right, he comes
out the next inning, he's throwing hard, and I'm going, oh,
this is gonna be great. I am sitting there going
this This damn guy's gonna get us.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Out of here. This is great. It works.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, well we're have you hiccups in there that at
that inning and all of a sudden, the bases are
loaded and you're like, oh no, oh no, and Dave
comes out. I'm thinking, I don't know, is it going
to leave men? Is it going to have that you know,
look in his eye. Well we didn't get to find
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that out because here came Vessia and that was critical.
Now I'll tell you why that was really important, because
Vessia has been hit lately. Now he's got a lot
of confidence. But what have the Dodgers said about their
pitching staff. They're relievers, they're suffering from a loss of confidence.
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So he's been hit and he comes in with a
basis loaded, I mean a base hit. The game is tied,
a triple in there ahead, so this is a serious
point in the game, and Vessia gets him. So now
you're like, okay, all right, Well the plan that we
had set up didn't really work because Glassnew didn't get
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us out of here. So now we'll go to the
ninth inning, and you know who that that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You thought Glass I was gonna go to the through
the ninth. Oh yeah, he was gonna finish out Rotten.
I swear to God, that's what I was thinking. Let's
go home. Oh no, two is gonna be enough.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, he's a starting pitcher. If he's got it, why
are we using anybody else? Just let him go? But
it didn't work out that way, all right, So now
here comes Roki and if you remember, the concern was,
all right, this is going to be a different environment
in Philadelphia, very different. How is he going to react?
(13:34):
First pitch he throws is about two feet outside. I
have to tell you it's not like I'm living every pitch,
but I'm living every pitch. He threw that, and I
just put my head in my hands. I went, oh God, no, no, Rokie, no, No,
it's all going to fall apart right here.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The nightmare.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But then he settles himself, then he gets it together,
and ultimately they get out of there with a win.
Remember how the Dodgers are constructed. They want to wear
your starting pitcher down, and they want to be in
the game when you hit your bullpen. That's how they're built. Now,
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it hasn't been that way a lot this year because
of the injuries and the slump, but that's what it is.
They'll grind you and grind you. They want to be
within striking distance and get to your bullpen. Then they
want their pictures to be able to shut the door.
Scripted textbook. That's what happened in game one.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing. If it's like
that racehorse, right, it's like the racehorse that is, you know,
this is the best in the field and he's lagging
behind because he's letting the other field. The two guys
are two other favorites. Kind of I think they're gonna
win it. And he's waiting and he's waiting, and he's
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waiting till that third that last turn in the middle
of that last turn before the home stretch is when
he kicks it in. And it's almost like that's the
way the Dodgers play, is that we're gonna you know,
you may beat us for six innings, but you gotta
beat us for nine. Right. You may beat us for
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six innings, but there's we've got a formula to beat
you for nine So once that happens, you can feel
good for six innings. But at some point our guys
are gonna come through. And when Suzaki came in and
I was right, yeah, you wonder how he's gonna beat
When he got it going and fred I saw him
pound his chest, I was like, okay, it's over now.
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The moment is never too big for him anymore. Ever,
when he pounded his chest after a strikeout, it was
he was at a strikeout, maybe an after BUNSI he
pounded his chest like I got it. I was like,
that was a moment for me, Like, okay, he can
handle it. He can handle the big time moment.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So the doctors get out of there with the win.
One other note about the opener, and then we'll move forward.
But we have to talk about this. Somebody posted on
Twitter x a shot of Andy pye has on second
base mm hm and claimed that he was stealing signs
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which led to Tiascar's home run. You could see him
on second base and looking in and seeing the position
of the catcher's glove. Now you cannot steal signs because
they're given electronically now, so there's no way you can
see one, two, or three because they're not flashing those signs.
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So the contention was, oh, he looked at the catcher's
glove and in doing so was able to steal a sign.
So let's talk about that for a second. First, that's
on the catcher because you can't steal anybody's sign unless
you're wearing the electronic carrying device. And I don't think
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any of the Dodgers had the Phillies electronic carring device.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And we're getting he wasn't given any He wasn't given
any because I didn't see that. He wasn't given any
fingers or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, it was the position of the catcher's club and
there was a moment where Pa has stuck out his
right arm. Now, that could have been a to indicate
he was going to third try to confuse the pitcher,
maybe give the impression he was going to steal whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Really b B. People are like, I'm dumb, I'm not
an idiot. B.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It could have been I'm sticking up my right arm
and this is what I think is coming. But in
any event, if in fact he was able to do that,
that's on them. That's not on the Dodgers, and if
a Philly hitter, and if this is true, is at
the plate and they have a run around second and
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can somehow figure out what the pitch is going to
be or the location, they should communicate that they should
do that. Yes, not have electronic devices and bang trash cans.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No, I don't care what you whoever complaining, I don't
know who as I haven't seen it. But if you're
a baseball kid playing from twelve year old twelve years on,
your teammates, your man, they are telling you when you
get to second base, see if you can pick the signs,
See if you can get the signs, and there's a
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formula to relay in that to the hitter. It happens
in little league, it happens in pony league, it happens
in high school. It happens. That is not that is gamesmanship.
More so, then, like you said, having a video screen
in your clubhouse with the video camera guy filming and
then you banging trash cans because you're watching the screen
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of an angle that nobody else has but you in
your home stadium. That's different than a guy on second
base trying to read it in real time period period
but was he was he indicating to the did the
hit because Mookie was up before him.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I believe, I'll say also in this specific case, because
matt Strom, by the way, also said he did not
think Piees was stealing signs. So Fred he was looking
at the catcher's glove, he was also looking at Strom
and his grip and his wind up or something, feeling
like he was kind of picking up on that. And
matt Strom said that wasn't the case. I wind up
the exact same time, and if you go back and
look at the film, Pa has raised his arm on
the previous pitch, and on that pitch, he did the
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exact same thing on consecutive pitches and they were both
completely different. So matt Strom, who would have a gripe
in this situation, had no He says Piez was not
stealing any signs.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
It was only up and up. That's all That's all
I need right there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, but he's not the one that he's not the
one that really would say that, because what is he
gonna say. He's gonna say, I'm protecting my I'm protecting
the pictures, so there's no way he's gonna steal them.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, or the guys i'd meant to have tipping pitches
or things happening in the past.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That yeah, after the fact. But he's not gonna say
it right after the game because he doesn't know really
right after game after you really studied it. And he
tweeted this yesterday frame.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He tweeted this yesterday, tweeted yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But it's still early. It's still early for him to say, yeah,
I was tipping my pitches. That would be a bad
thing for him to say right now. Yeah, I don't
know if I don't think he's saying that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, he could say nothing, and he at least went
out and said that. He could have just said nothing
at all and just let it go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, the guy's going to defend themselves. No, I wasn't
tipping my picture what he called it. No, he wasn't
picking from me. No, I'm very careful about you know,
close in my glove and not giving away anything that
I'm throwing.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, realistically, what could he say? Yeah, he got me. Ya,
gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
He got me. That's on me. I gave up a
whole run.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We lost the game because they were able to steal
steal my pitch because I was.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But if you could never say that, never say that.
But if you watch it, not only is he sticking
out his arm, but he's leaning his head, my head,
leaning his head to try to get a better angle
of looking at the picture. I mean, that's that's that's twice.
I mean it's the hand going out with the signal,
but he's also leaning, leaning his head over to try
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to figure out, Okay, can I see this? Can I
not see this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Even if we were to say this argument like it's
not illegal, but because they've been doing this for years,
so there's no technology involved. So even if he was
quote unquote stealing it, to your point, Fred, that's on them.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean, stop whing is. Stop didn't get they
didn't wind.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Though they didn't wind, they had no whine.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I don't feel anything. Their fan base, Yeah, that was
that tweet. Their fan base, right, they get it. If
he's tipping pitches, he's not gonna whine about somebody being
able to figure out what it is. He'd look like
an idiot. You can't do that. I gotta be honest
with you. I tipped all my pitches and Paul has
was on second and leaned in and saw it and
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relayed the signal. They hit a home run. He's never
going to admit that, ever, because if he was doing it,
I assure you they're going to do everything humanly possible
to make sure it doesn't happen again. He's certainly not
going to give them, the Dodgers, the psychological pleasure of
knowing that they got him. They would never do that anyway.
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In our group text Kevin and Rodney, as you know,
I told you that this would be easier for the Dodgers,
and people think, oh, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And by the way, Saturday was so easy.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You know, I crafted a text to your Fred and
I forgot to get sin so that's on me, and
I knew this was going to come up, so I
just reserved my co for the show.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
What oh, this is going to be so easy, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yes, that's one gentleman. That's one right, Look.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, nice and easy work by the way down three
nothing going into the sixth there, Fred for Wright, he
had him right where they wanted him, right, that's exactly
where they wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
To don't get I mean you got cocky before it start.
Don't get over cocky now don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, here's what I'm going to tell you now for
Game two tonight. It smells Zella your man Rodney. Yes,
he's on the hill, Yes, dominant.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And Philadelphia is going to go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I'm looking at this with heyesus Lozardo, So you go, Well,
this guy's had a hell of a year. I mean,
this guy has had one of the best years of
his career. I'm going to tell you this right now.
They are going to get him tonight. And I know
this for a fact. Why would I know, because not
(23:50):
only did my fantasy baseball team win the championship, thank you,
I you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
All Right, It's been a while, but I won this year.
Guess who was on my team? Lozardo. I watched him
all year long. I watched almost every game he pitched.
And I will tell you if he is on he's
going to be a bit of a problem. But if
he is what he has been, which is wildly inconsistent,
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they are going to tattoo him tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Mm hmm. I am telling you that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, I heard h Wait a minute, dismissive. I just
make this statement, Kevin. Wait, what do you think, Kevin
before Rodney, you go, since we know what you think, well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Captain obvious, I think, yeah, if he's if he's on,
he's on. If he's not, he's not. That's nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, you know what. At least I take one dand
want a damn At least I took a stand. I'm
telling everybody else is like, oh my god, Lozardo, it'll
be fine, go ahead and get over confident, Fred.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Say go ahead. No, Vassi said Will Smith is catching.
He said, Will Smith is in the lineup. I heard
it on the radio earlier today when I was around.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
The team put out the lineup and Rodford is in there.
So I don't know if Will Smith was a late
scratch or what. But the official line of police as
of now, these things can't change. But as of now
Rodford is in there.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Interesting. Yeah, yeah, he was making a big deal about
it with Snell, Snell and Smith as the battery.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
When we'll see when Will Smith came in the other night. Yeah,
when he came in the other night, what'd you think
I thought?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Everything in my mind had change when he came in.
And I'm I don't know why, I just thought, oh
my god, now Will Smith is back. Don't you feel
really different when he's in the game. Oh yeah, seriously,
I mean just even receiving the ball and Rtvetter has
done a good job, but everything they're a different team
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and he is. He looks like a star and you
don't appreciate that when you see hm every day, but
when you haven't seen him for a while, and.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Both sides right, he you know he had to not
great strakeout, but but behind the play you feel so
confident with That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, it was
like this. They're they're unbeatable now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So if he had been in the lineup, Kevin, I
don't know, maybe they scratched him, but he'll be available
to pin channel bet you probably.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
The weird thing for me is going into game one
and I don't I guess what's your assessment on this?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I know we have to break here, Ronnie.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So they said before first pitch that Will Smith was
gonna get in the game, regardless of the situation that
I just found that to be odd. If road Fitt
was two for two with two home runs, you were
gonna pull him out to what will Smith in? It's
just weird to be that you would telegraph they're planning
to put will Smith.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Maybe as a pinch hitter. Kevin not necessarily to catch it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, they made it seem as Okay, they made it
seem as if he's gonna get in this game at
some point early on. They didn't make it seem like
a pinch hitter in the eighth or ninth inning, like
he's gonna get some legit playing time in this game.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And I just thought that was a weird thing to say.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I just think by mentioning the fact he could go
in the game, it is a huge psychological boost for
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, are you real quick? Are you? Are you? I
know it's lefty for them, you know, lefty, lefty. They
got a lot of lefties that Max Munsey's not gonna
be in. Mickey Rose is going to start third base
at a max and they saving Max for a pinch
hit situation. I'm sure they are lefty lefty situation, lefty righty. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm sure they are. I mean, look, Lizardo, they're gonna
beat him tonight, so I know what he did during
the regular season. I see the stats. I just thought
on MLB Network. They can't they can't come back to
Dodgers Stadium O two oh right in a five game series.
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This is critical.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, I will say this.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
By the way, the Phillies and Dodgers last time they played,
we had this pitching matchup Blake Snow versus hezeus Lozardo. Okay,
and the Dodgers won five nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Mm hmm okay.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
He doesn't necessarily mean anything for but that's that was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Necessaries that Dodger Stadium. The series means everything to me.
What do you mean, doesn't mean that's when the Dodgers
started to start to play better.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
How was at that game? Yeah, that was the only
game that the Dodgers were able to capture.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, the Dodgers lost two out of three from Philly. Yeah,
but they did win that game against Lizardo. Yeah, but
they lost because of the bullpen, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It doesn't matter how you lose, you lost. So, I mean,
especially these days here in the postseason. So the important
thing is Blake Snow. And this is something vast As
said as well. He owns the top of the phillip.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, owns them and has let's let's hope he owns
them today.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know you're right, Rodney, and and maybe all of
those analysts are right as well. However, this thing started
to get to this point, Yeah, they'll be dead if
they're down ZHO two.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it will be over. Yeah, it would think about it. Yeah,
because game even if it gets to well, game three
is Yamamoto back here. M hm right, mm hmm, and
four is up in the air. But and then five
you're gonna have everybody available for five yep for the Dodgers. Yeah,
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this is this is a big one for the Phillies.
They got to have this one, all.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Right, Kevin Jelling, Ronnie's give us dirty looks. I know
we're only on for an hour hour break, that's what
you get when we're only on for an hour. We
have a lot to say about this game. Okay, when
we come back a shocking upset and one team needs
to be relegated out of its league, that's next.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh yeah, here we go quick. I mean I'm talking.
This is not a four hundred meters this is not
two hundred meters. This is one hundred meters dash Hussein
boat today for us one hour, one hour for us today.
As we get ready for the Dodgers early this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
All right, so anyway, apologies here, I have to apologize.
I made a statement. I could still be right, but
there's a possibility now I'll be wrong. They heard you, though, Fred, Well,
they heard well. Yeah, Ucla, I said, would not win
two games, would be lucky to win two games this year, lucky.
I said they look like a Division III college football team,
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that they shouldn't even be a Division one college football team.
I said that. Then they go out and they beat
Penn State, ranked sixth in the country. So credit where
credit is due, for whatever reason, on that Saturday, Ucla
beat the sixth ranked team in the country. And when
I mentioned to Kevin I wanted to talk about this today,
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he said, are you going to give ucl any credit?
Are you at least going to be kind enough to
do that?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did I do that? Kevin? Did I give you Cla credit?
He was waiting. We don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He's speechless. He can't even discuss it. It's too overwhelming
to him. Yeah, give him credit, give him credit. They'd
be a very very good team. Could that be the
start of something? I don't know, No one really knows,
but at least on that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They can all walk.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Away with their heads held high knowing that they beat
the sixth ranked team in the country and they're one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, So I heard some people say, well, what does
this say more about UCLA? Does this say more about
Penn State? Everybody had them over raped all right, right,
because this is the second straight loss. I mean, they
lost the Oregon at home in the white out back there,
which is Oregon is to me, Oregon's the best team
in the country. I mean, people a canna talk about
Ohio State and Georgia and all that, but Oregon is
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on a different level. If you have to play them
in a neutral site or you play them in Oregon,
you're in trouble. So they went back and beat Penn
State in overtime, and you think, okay, Penn State's still
that Then Penn State comes out here and I don't
know if it's a hangover of that loss or traveling
all across the country, but used to they dominated them.
They dominated them and then kind of let them back
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in the game. And then yet you know, you you
were concerned a little bit, but they dominated them. And
is this the the the one moment for uclat to
your point of you know, they're only gonna win two
games or they're only going to win one game here
and there? Did they shoot it? Did they shoot it
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in this game against Penn State? And they go back
to being UCLA after this?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well that's the question credit where credit is due again
acknowledging that UCLA did that? Yeah, are they a much
better team than they were?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well they have to be because they couldn't have been
much worse. Correct, all right, so that was a good Saturday.
I'm confused though, who who's the head coach of UCLA?
I'm not sure it is new Heil the head coach. No,
I mean he's I know he's a coordinate. Didn't call
him plays and all that play call him? I have
no idea who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Did you see the end they carried him off the field, Well,
they carried new Hiel off to keV. He's not the
head coach, He's not the interim is he not sure? Honestly?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
No, he's Tim Skipper is his name? Who was the
interest coach?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Jerry new Heiseel was the tight ends coach and when
they blew out Deshaun and the offensive coordinator A Tinos
in Surrey. They elevated Jerry new Heiseel to see, which
happened on Tuesday. By the way, so Tuesday and Saturday
yet to put a game plan together, and they had
their best offensive output by far the season.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
So I think that's why.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
They're lauding in some sort of hero because they could
not have looked any worse than they did against Northwestern
or New Mexico or anybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
All of a sudden, they're moving the ball up and
down the field on penn.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Stad and Jerry. But yeah, Jerry played their dad. Obviously,
Rick played at UCLA. Jerry was a backup quarterback at
UCLA and his coach there, so he's very familiar with
the program and very passionate about the program. I thought
it was just interesting that, I know, the offensive output
was crazy, and Nico finally looked like Nico like everybody
thought he would. But just carrying Jerry new Heeiseel off
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the field, did they carry Tim Skipper off the field too?
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, didn't see that either. It's kind of like when
the Bears won the Super Bowl. They cut it, carried
Buddy Ryan off the field. Both Buddy and Dick were
being carried off the field. It just did. It was
a little bit weird.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Okay, well that was weird, and now this might sound weird,
but I'm sorry. You know, in a world with no rules,
there's chaos, and we cannot have chaos. So Penn State
must be relegated now to a different conference. They must
be relegated out of.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The Big Ten. They're done. What why, Freddy?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Because you can't I don't care what happens recover from that.
They have to be relegated. I'm sorry, James Franklin. I
get it, you know, and the spirit of Penn State
makes sense. You gotta go after that. You should not
show your face.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Your fans should show up wearing bags on their heads
like the New Orleans Aints fans did. That's how bad
that was. You're the sixth ranked team of the country.
Are you over ranked?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I don't know. If you're number six, you're supposed to
be pretty good. What are you? The West High Thunderbirds.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
When I went to high school, when we were ranked
third in the state and everybody thought this is our
year and then we lose like twenty two games in
a row. Were we over ranked? When we were third
in the state. We lost all those games, No, because
we sucked the year before. Luckily we got in there
with Penn State. You expect them to be competitive, you
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expect them to be there. You can't lose a game
like that, Rodney, I don't care. You cannot lose to
UCLA if you're Penn State.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, you really can't. Now you can always say that
at the professional level because there's professional players and every
teams got really good players. It's just a team thing
sometimes and just chemistry, or you don't have the quarterback,
but there's players there, whereas in college there's the have
and have nots, and you know, you pretty much can
(36:05):
dictate who's gonna beat who. This is, you know, two
top teams playing together. But if it's a top team
and you know, no offense to UCLA, but UCLA, you
should never I don't care if you're playing at And
on top of that, it's not like you're going into
a very hostile environment, you know, and you've got to
worry about the crowd, noise and the student section and
(36:27):
everybody going crazy regardless of that school score. Because it's
a big, big name program coming to town. So everybody's excited.
They got pep rallies on campus on Friday and you're
ready to go. No, that's not the case. I don't
know how many people were in the stands, but it
looked empty at the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And everyone's probably the announced attendants thirty one.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Thirty one, Yeah, thirty it was probably State exactly. That's
what I was going to say. Twenty of us, probably
Penn State fans. So it wasn't a hostile environment. So yeah,
you're right, Fred. You cannot you cannot. You cannot lose
a game like that.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, all right, So congratulations to Penn State. They're now
in the Mountain West Conference. Their schedule will be altered
next day, will play NAU Northern Arizonia University. Can't have that,
you just can't. I mean, there are some things you
can do, some things you can't. You can't have that.
That was pretty bad. Do we want to talk about
this real quick? Let's just do it real fast here, ridey.
(37:19):
The high school football games, Sierra Canyon and Sarah battling
Jay Sarah Sarah Kidds during the game are suffering from cramps, dehydration.
A lot of them go down end of the game.
What does Sierra Canyon. Do Sierra Canyon pounds them by
the way they go down all complaining are cramps rolling
around on the field. Kind of taking a shot at
(37:40):
the Sarah kids who went down with cramps during the game.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, no, no, And then we can say so the Sarah.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Kids were getting we're cramping, Yeah, doing a whole game,
marry your Canyon where and Serra Canyon runs the no
huddle up temple offense. So it's just like the temple
is part of the problem. And to be fair, there
are a lot of coaches, not at just high school level,
but pro level as well, and some I've seen in
(38:12):
the professional level that see a team that's moving like
that and going up and down the field or that's
the that's their offense and that's their mo that they'll
find ways to slow that down, whether it be you know,
guys going down for minor injuries or checking with the
ref or doing something to slow it down to throw
(38:34):
them off the temple.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I gotta believe it was discussed, Okay, I hear it,
So they took it to a different levels what I'm hearing. Yeah,
but you can't do that. You can't.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And even if you're trying to slow them down. You
beat them, you pounded them into the ground. So you
didn't you didn't like the Sarah kids cramping on purpose,
or you thought it was legitimate that they were cramping.
I think that you could have October Fred, I understand,
but there's still warmth. I think I think you could
(39:08):
make the argument that maybe some of those Sarah kids
cramped a little bit, but the entire Sierra Canyon team.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Cannot go down and do No, you can't do that.
Come on minute, and is really chicken you know what? Yeah, yeah,
I know he can't do that. Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
By the way, somebody told me to say hello to you,
and I'm gonna do it right now, so I don't
forget somebody who said they played with you usc John.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Page, Yeah, big sexy? Is that what he was called?
Big sexy? John Paid. The freak was what he was
called the freak. He was called the freak. Yes, Oh,
tell me more, because I'm gonna talk to him. Go ahead,
I'm not telling you more on air, think the freak.
(39:52):
I'm gonna tell you that on air. In college, we
called him the freak. And you want me to say
that over the airways? Freck? Oh? Yeah, because I I
want you to embarrass him. No, just call him the freak. Okay, Hey,
what's a freak?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna let him know that
you said that, great guy though. Okay, well, I'm gonna
reach out to the freak. Yeah, and then we'll come
back and wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh yes, take me on out, Rodney Pete Fred Rogan
on a quick quick Monday playoff, red playoff.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, so we have like a ninety seconds left before
we have to get off the air. But I'm gonna
do the Dodger as a favor because that's who I am.
I'm in it to win it, Rodney. Oh boy, I'm
in it. And I've done a little scouting. I don't
know if they're aware of this or not, but I'm
going to tell you right now. He'zus Lozardo throws his
(40:49):
sweeper sixty percent of the time. There, I said it.
I said it publicly. He throws his sweeper sixty percent
of the time. One of the second pitch he throws
his breaking ball, his breaking ball. Now I can I
(41:09):
can tell you that those are his go two pitches,
the sweeper, breaking ball. Yeah, and I'm going to tell
you maybe, Look, I don't know. I'm just saying I
have done some research, and I don't know. If the
Dodgers are aware of this breaking ball, and the breaking
ball is a sweeper, fair enough, then he throws out
one hundred and four percent of the time if you
total it up. But here's how I know. You might
(41:31):
think I've studied a lot of tape. But the reason
I can share this information with the Dodgers is because
they just had it on MLB Network. That's what he does.
He throws the sweeper and the breaking ball. And I'll
say this, yea, if the Dodgers knew that, Fran, if
MLB Network knows, I gotta tell you I think the
(41:55):
Dodgers know too. Tomorrow when we talk, you'll say, I
can't believe it. You were right again. You were right again? Hey,
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That's it for us today. Come on,
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