October 7, 2025 • 42 mins
The Dodgers are up 2-0 on the Phillies after some key defenisve plays (including the wheel play) helped save the day. We hear from some disgruntled Philadelphia media members and fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on
a five seventy LA Sports. We have a three hour
program for you today, a big three hour show. So
we are fired up and excited to go, Rodney. And
by the way, at one o'clock ed Eric Dickerson will
jump on. All right as we begin, do you want
to tell me something?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, No, other than yeah, we you know this time
of year, we're we're always you know, lucky and very
happy that we we actually have a three hour show
because it fluctuates so much with the playoff schedule and
sometimes we're on like we were yesterday just for one hour
and actually moved up an hour of eleven to twelve.
(00:44):
And you've heard us sometimes in the mornings when the
playoffs starts. So you know, we're in a rare October
day that we have a full three hour show. FITTI. Okay,
that's not really what I was expecting. But no, I
don't have any What do you want me to tell you?
And there's something you know what you want to say? No,
unless you have something to say.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Kevin, Kevin there, do you have anything you'd like to say?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, good morning, Fred, Rodney, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Good morning, Yeah, good morning. Let's go really okay, so
that's what I want to do? Yes, yeah, top of
a mid afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There's nothing you wanted to talk about, given what happened
last night or a text you may have received.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't what are you getting at? What are you
getting at? Fred?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What am I getting at? I think you both owe
me an apology for what because the Dodger's one. We're
gonna apologize because the Dodgers one. All you said was
gentlemen to it?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What what are you suggesting that Kevin and I didn't
think the Dodgers is gonna win?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No, but I am suggesting that you didn't think I
was correct in saying it's not gonna be as hard
as you think it is.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh that went hard.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah that was real easy, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah? That was you were You were just relaxed all
the way through the night. I'm Freddy. I didn't lose
a second of sleep. I was just comfortable sitting there.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, really, I was sure Rex as soon as Blade
Trying came in and I was like, oh yeah, I
got him right where we want him.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This is Unlet's that go into that right now? Okay,
let's not live that. I do want to tell you though.
So yesterday afternoon I had to go to Venice, uh
not Italy, California, and I was there for some meetings.
So the meetings ended and there was no way I
was going to be able to drive anywhere because traffic
was so awful. So I go to a bar to
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watch the game. And I'm sitting at the bar and
there's a guy sitting next at the next table with
his I find out fiance, and he looks at me
and I smile, you know, I don't know, and he goes,
oh my god, I listened to you guys every single day.
And he's wearing a Dodger hat, the Dodger jersey. So
he says, oh my god, can I buy you a drink?
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I said no, no, no, that's fine, thank you, and
he's talking to me. So we take a picture and
he goes, my father has to see this, So I
think he's gonna send the picture to his father. No,
he put his father on FaceTime. So I sat there
and talked to his father because he's a huge Dodger fan.
And in this bar where I was in Venice, I
have to tell you people are not overly relaxed in
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that ninth inning, or the eighth inning for that matter,
they were not really relaxed. They were very concerned. And
I just sat there and smiled. I said, no, it's
gonna be okay, it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I wouldn't even give it a second thought. It's going
to be fine. That's what you said in your outside voice,
But inside you were panic fit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I was terrifying. Yes, I was terrified. Inside, Yes I was.
I was like, this cannot happen, dear god. Here we
went back to the bullpen. I was like, no, no, no, no.
And when Blake Trining performed his magic, I sat there
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and went, well, now he's done.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We can't put him anymore, not only anymore, either of
you think, because I feel like a lot of people
first guess this when you saw him coming out of
the bullp and you were like, what the bleep are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No? You know what I thought? You know what I thought?
What did you think? He's got it? Okay, he's back.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is the night. He's back, and he's got it.
And just watch him mull him down. And then it
was like, oh no, oh no, here we go again. Yeah,
and it's scary because you're running out of guys you
can put in Rodney.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be disaster,
you know, given the fact that because he came in.
What was for to one at the time? Was it
four zero? No, it's for one, right, right, He's got
to be for to one. He came in, and I'm thinking, Okay,
it can't it can't be a disaster. Maybe he gives
up a hit or two and you know, and and
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he he finds a way to get out of it.
But like you mentioned, you're running out of arms back there.
Somebody's got somebody that you've used all season long. Somebody's
got to step it up and come through otherwise, you know,
you can't trot Vessia and Suzaki out there every single game.
Somebody else has to, you know, come through. And you
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just think, Okay, it's not a tie ball game, or
it's not a one run ball game. Trying and who's
done it before can find it in this particular situation.
But he couldn't. He really couldn't. And that's why I
texted you guys after that. That was to me, that
was kind of like that, that was the last draw,
I think he goes into the Tanner Scott category of
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for the remainder of this series, he cannot be put
into a high leverage and I'm saying three to four
runs is high leverage for him. Now, you can't put
him in that situation anymore if you need him to
go eat up an inning when you're up seven maybe,
or you're up five, maybe, But to put him in
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in the eighth where you're you're you're sitting at a
three run lead with two guys on base, or you're
sitting with the one run lead with a guy on base.
He's no longer that guy this season for you. He's
proven that. And so the question becomes, Okay, now who
are you leaning on? Are you leaning on Glass? Now?
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Who's slated at the start Game four? So he's not
available to you know tomorrow night? Sazaki and Imachian and Vessia.
Is that where your limitations are in terms of the bullpen? Yeah?
At this point? Who else is even out there? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Enriquez is out there, Tryning's out there, Scott's out there.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who do they have left?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They only can put in Vessia, in Sazaki.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's it. I don't even know who's everybody else has been.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Hit, right or not even on the uh on the
particular roster, right? I mean, are we going to see
Ben Casperius in the ls is? Will they bring him back?
Why wouldn't they? At this point again, Grant, I sat
there with my outside face smiling and telling everybody was okay,
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an inside I was thinking, oh, dear.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
God, don't lose this game.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If they lose that game last night, Rodney, the entire series,
the complexion of the series changes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh yeah, one, you know, after breaking their back the
way they Dodgers did, to go up for nothing, and that's,
you know, basically what the Dodgers do. Right, it looks
like everything's going great for you, great for you, great
for you, and the Dodgers just grind it, grind it.
And we said that yesterday. Grind you out, grind you out,
grinds you out, and all of a sudden they have
a big inning and that's exactly what happened. And now
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you're sitting there as Phillies and Philly fans going our
guy pitched the gym, I mean he did for for
for the Phillies. What was his name again, Lozardo he
pitched his ass off. He was he was dealing, and
you're thinking, Okay, we got our starting pitcher to go
deep and he's got him off balance. We're good, we're good,
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We're good. And then he kind of got hit a
little bit and walked and and so they they they
changed up, and then the Dodgers got to him, and
you're thinking, if your phillies, you're thinking, oh god, this
is just the Dodgers. What happens. But then they they
have a little opportunity to get it back and you know,
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tie the game, and the Dodgers make an unbelievable play
which we'll talk about on the bunt that keeps the
guy off third base with less than two outs. So
they can't tie it up. But if they tie that
game up and they go win. To your point, Fred, yes,
the complexion and the whole complexion of the series and
the game changes because now they went from dead in
the water being tied one one. Going back to la.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Blake, Snell was dominant. That's exactly why the Dodgers signed him.
And even earlier in the year or when he was hurt.
I made the point, and I will say it again,
he's not here for the first half of the season.
I mean, yes, he signed, and it's great if he
goes No, he's here for after the All Star break
because he is money, just money. He he he looks
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like the best free agent signing and probably was of
the offseason or in years. I mean, to have him
on your team in games like that, you know you've
got a shout to win every single time he goes out.
And he looked fantastic last night, Rodney. No, he was dominant.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He was every bit of what we thought and think
Blake Snell is and can be. He and he lives
for these kind of moments. I thought it was great
that he was slotted to pitch Game two in phil
because I can't think of a better guy to go
into hostile environments and shut the crowd down and shut
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the team down. Then Blake Snell. He's got the stuff
to do it, number one. But between the ears, his brain,
his cockiness, his attitude, he's the guy I want. He's
the guy I want in on the road and the
hostile I want him more than anybody else on that staff,
including Otani. I'd rather have if I was one game
to win in Philly. You gotta go back to Philly
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for Game five, and it's everybody available. I'm trotting Blake
Snell out there before anybody else. Why hear you let
your Oh please, but that's your guy, it is now Zilla.
That was your guy for during.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The off season. Yes, the only guy you wanted. Oh,
I'm sorry you guys also wanted the terrific Max Freed.
That went well last night, didn't it. Oh, now you're
gonna pounce on Max Freed.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who's gonna be the you know, close to the second
place and to Cy Young win and led the league
and and wins that Max Free, Yeah, he had an
off night. And Toronto's just on a eater right now.
So just like Milwaukee is. You know, sometimes sometimes hitters
getting a groove, just like pitchers do. And when they're
in a groove, you can't no matter what you throw,
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they're hitting it. And as a team, Toronto's doing that,
and so is Milwaukee. Milwaukee's surprising me. Why by the
way that your feelings of Milwaukee change now a little bit.
You know, always said, oh, they can't handle the pressure,
they'd never been there before, They're not going to be
I think they get bounced early and they're not a threat.
(11:34):
Do you think they're a threat? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
More of a threat than I thought. I think the
Dodgers handled, but more of a threat than I thought.
I think Dodger pitching will rule. Let's talk defense last night,
two big plays. How about Mickey Rojas diving, diving to
make that play?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah? Yeah, Defensively, there's not much I mean when you
are able to throw him in the game at second
base or third base. Defensively, there's not many many guys
better than him, even at his age and his knowledge
of the game and understanding the game. But defensively, fundamentally,
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he is a fantastic defensive player, and you feel comfortable,
I know, as a pitcher you feel comfortable seeing him
behind you. But yeah, unbelievable play by him. All right?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And now the infamous wheel, the moment that many people
thought decided the game. Costiano's on second base, the fellaw's
trying to bunt him down to third, and if he's
in third, you know why anything happen if he gets
on to third and the Dodgers executed something called the Wheel.
So Rodney, you played, Can you talk about the wheel?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yes? All right? So normally in situations if there's a
bunch situation, if there's a runner on first base, what
you're taught as a is a hitter in the box.
As a bunter, you bunt the ball to the right side,
which is the first base side of the plate, to
the second base side and to get the runner to
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second base, because that is the most difficult play. If
a runner is on second base and you're bunting, you're
taught to bunt the ball to the third baseman. Make
the third baseman field the ball. And the reason for
that is that it's a very difficult cover for the
shortstop to get the third base. The pitcher can't get there,
nobody else can get there but the shortstop. So if
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you make the third baseman field it, then more than
likely you're going to be safe at third base if
you get the bunt down, which is why they also
tell the pitchers in that situation as soon as you release,
sprint to the third baseline so you can field the ball,
so you can get the third baseman can get back
the third base. It was actually a very good bunt,
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but the Dodgers executed it to perfection, and it's something
which is ironic, as they talked about it before that
happened that if this happens, we're gonna do the wheel.
We're gonna on the wheel, which is Mooki shortstop running
the third base and beating the runner from second base
to third base, and Max turning and wheeling and throwing
Tomoki at third base as opposed to just getting the
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out at first. If you feeld it clean is what
they're taught. If Max Munsey you feeled it clean and
it's a sharply hit bunt, then turn, take a peek
and make sure you've got him at third base. That
is your first option. If you don't, then you wheel
and throw it back to first base. He fielded it clean,
Mooki got a great jump to get the third base
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before Constiano's and he threw a perfect strike to Mooki
on the run, and Mooki made the tag. So and
it's not a play that you practice a whole lot either, Fred,
because it rarely comes up in a situation. You know,
it's it's like one of those things you spend one day,
maybe or half a day in spring training going through
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and then you never think about it again.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You have to understand that they did something that none
of us can do of course they play, none of
us can do that. But the execution of that that
was the game, by the way, and then Sazaki in
the ninth, but that moment right there, that was it.
If Munthsy doesn't field the ball cleanly. I want you
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to think about all the things that go on here.
First of all, Mooki is playing shortstop, and he's playing
closer to second base than he.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is to third. Yes, so let's stop get that, And
he's got to try to hold the second base runner,
try to hold him as close to second base as
possible so he doesn't get a big, gigantic lead to
help him get the third base. So Mookie can't just
seat all the way to third base. He's got to
be in a position where they think there is a
possible pickoff at second base. So let's start. You know,
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he's got to start in position of playing a regular shortstop.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So that's how far he is from third base. As
a matter of fact, as the pitcher up, the runner
on base is closer to third base than Muki is.
Because Mooky's got a kind of cheap back to try
to give the illusion he's holding the guy as soon
as the pitcher releases or just prior. Muki now in
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a dead sprint, has to beat the runner to third base. Now,
if that's Trey Turner, it's going to be a little
different than if it's Costiano's. Nonetheless, Mooki on a dead
run has to beat the runner to third The ball
is bunted, Munsie must field the ball cleanly. Yes, he
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has about a second to make a determination on where
he's going to throw it. He grabs it, he turns.
Mouki is still moving, but now he's ahead of Costiano's.
He's still moving. Munsey has to make a perfect throw.
It can't be off the slightest bit because Mooki is moving.
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Muncie puts the ball on the money. Mooki beats Costiano's
to the bag and is able to tag him out.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Afterwards, Freddie Freeman talked about it with Mooki especially.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I think Max mentioned his idea to run the wheel
player in the pitching change.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Yeah, we were talking about So the whole conversation during
was that, obviously, and then if we run the wheel play,
that means there's going to be no one at second base.
So that's when I chimed in. I said, if he
bumps the third base, Max, you throw it a month, Mooki,
Tommy's going to first. All sprint to second base if
it's not coming to me. That's why you saw me
running the second. So we were just coming up with
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a plan on the wheel play to make sure we
still had every base cover so he couldn't go home
to second. And obviously they pulled They pulled off perfectly.
But what does it say about Muki to be able
to execute in that kind of spot, at this position
that he's been taking out. Yeah, I mean, I think
hopefully everyone realizes how hard it is to switch positions
and then do it at an elite level that Mooki
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has done it this year. We were talking about doing
a wheel play a couple of weeks ago in a
certain situation as well, So that's been on our mind
to kind of bring that out in that situation, and
that was just a perfect perfect time to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Nick.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Obviously there's not Trey Turner running, so we had a
better chance of that. So that's why we were gun
ho on that wheel play, and obviously Mooki and then
Max and everyone just confident in pulling that off. And
I mean everything was just perfect on that play.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's something that we're thinking about doing, but they don't
practice every day, and they had to nail it. It
had to be perfection, and they got.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No room for error. Yeah, like you said, you know,
and what we just said. The reason Mookie can't cheat
all the way to third base. He's got to hold
the runner so the runner can't get a you know,
a lead that's halfway to third base on the pitch,
and because as Freddy said, Tommy Edmonds is coming first,
because Freddy's also crashing to get the butt in case
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it bunnet to first base side, and then Freddie ran
to second base to make sure that after the play
someone is covering second base so the bunter could not
go from home to second base. I mean, all of
those things come into play and it has to be
executed perfectly, and they absolutely did that. And you talk
about the margin for error. It had to be a
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perfect throw. As you mentioned, Max had to field it clean.
Mooki on the run catching it clean and then making
the tag. And if you remember, maybe it was the
inning before that started the big inning. The infield's in
for Philly. Trey Turner gets a weak ground ball to him.
He throws it home and it's on the right side
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of the plate. Had it been on the left side
of the plate, Taoscar's out at home. That's how close
it is. And that's what the margin for error is.
If Real Muto is able to catch that ball on
the left on the third base side and Trey Turner
throws it to the third base side, Taoskar doesn't score.
The ball into the right side and Taskar scored. And
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that is the difference between the Dodgers scoring to run
and Max Munsey throwing a strike to Mooki and Mookie
being in position to make the tag and them getting out,
getting and out and keeping the runner off third base
for the Dodgers. And that's how small in the playoffs,
especially the margin for victory are.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All right, now, let's hear the Phillies manager after the game. Oh,
who do we have, Kevin? I'm sorry, Oh, I'm sorry,
all right, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
My mistake. I got it and I sent it to you.
I should know.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So what we're gonna do is we'll take a break
right here when we come back. It's not the Phillies
manager that was a bad call. It's the Phillies postgame
show argument. Yeah, so things are unraveling a bit in Philadelphia.
To be very honest with you, we've got a few
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things for you to hear when we come back.
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Speaker 9 (21:34):
Oh yes, full Fled's three hours show for us today
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan on a Tuesday, Dodger's up to nothing,
just getting some uh some thoughts out of the way.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We also we're gonna take some calls, right Fred.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, we'll do it. We'll take some We'll set this
up then we'll let people react to it. One hundred percent.
So I think things are starting one ravel. Rodney played
in Philadelphia. He understands the fans, he understands the market
there very well. So we got some sound now from
various points in Philadelphia. Uh, the Phillies after each game,
no matter where it's broadcast, whatever network, they do a
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postgame show on their regional sports channel, very much like
Sports not light Wood, even if the game is televised nationally.
So this comes this comes from the Phillies postgame show.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Listen, my dad used to say, I don't care what
he did. I want to know what you did. And
what Rob Thompson did was not pinch run. He bunned
with Scott when he could.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Have pitched run.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Could not could not run the guy because he had
to hold on bad Vader could not run the basis.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Walk.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
You would have to let him walk the second to
run scores the man.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He would have been done. If he would have had
to run, he probably would. I wouldn't have had him run.
But that's that's how you gotta be thinking.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Come on, okay, that came from the postgame TV show
on the Phillies champ.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
It sounds like an SNL skit of guys making fun
of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
S forescasters. It does it? Does? It does? Guy tried
to point out Bader can't run. Oh, I still put
him in there anyway, But you just said to put
him in there. To put a guy in a pinch
run for a guy, but you put a pinch guy
pitch runner, and who's probably a better runner than the
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guy that's out there. But bater is hurt. But the
guy was trying to explain to him, but the guy
wouldn't have it. It's a typical Philly though.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, all they did set there and yelled at each other.
They were so upset they started yelling at each other.
So now let's let's see what a Philly fan had
to say about the Dodgers.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
So the Phillies are really supposed to go out there
and play nine innings against the Avengers? Bro, what even
is this team? They're lead off basically baseball jeesus just
gonna pop over fifty five sixty home runs every season.
It's not even that big of a deal anymore. Oh,
and he's a starting pitcher tonight, just because why the not.
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They're twol hitter, another former MVP, because why not. Also,
he has six gold gloves, because why not. Then their
three hitter is playing like Thanos right now, just blasting
everything four hundred feet. Then they're cleanup hitter, another former
MVP gold glove winner, because why not.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, so that's how the fans and Philly feel about
the Dodgers. Now now you understand the frustration.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's starting to seep in.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Of course, going in, everybody thoughts it would be a
very close series and really to be there the team
that you would think would give the Dodgers the most.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, Fred, I mean going back,
it's not like this is the Toronto Blue Jays and
the Yankees, where Toronto's you know, scoring ten runs and
blowing them out. It's seven to nothing after four inning.
These games could have gone either way, both of them
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either way. I mean the Dodgers steal won in Game
one with Taioska didn't do anything until that home run
at three run blast that he hit to give him
the lead. But up until then the Dodgers were getting
dominated basically, and Otani, although really good for about five innings,
his first couple of innings he struggled and they got
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three runs off of him. So success this has been
easy or the Dodgers dominating in the Phillies. That's not
the case.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, but you have to understand they look at it
very differently. They lose by one, they lose by one hundred.
They lost and going in. They believed that they had
a legit shot at this thing, and that's what the expert.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Said they did. What are you talking about? Yeah they did, Well,
I knew they didn't. They still do.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yes, that's fair, that's fair, and that's why we should
listen to this local Philly radio host going off.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
The main issue with this team, Trey Turner, Bryce Harper,
and Kyle Schwarber.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The main issue.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Is that and.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Boom two oak count.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Baby, let's see you give it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
A real swing, it at trash, swinging at vomit, swinging
at something that wasn't in the heart of the meat
and potatoes of the plane on a two old count
smart baseball bomber. Here you go, kid, Hey, that's right here, kid.
Any way to go, Bud.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Rodney, That's really how Philly radio w is, isn't it. No,
that was a little extreme. That was a little extreme.
But but yeah, for the most part they yeah, yeah,
he's on the extreme end. But there's no there's no
calm end of that spectrum. It's it's like midway to
that guy. There's no other end of that spectrum for
(27:12):
for Philly radio. But yeah, he represents a good majority
of of Philly fans especially, And and the ironic piece
of this is that sometimes they're like that when the
Phillies win. They were the last night during the game yeah,
(27:38):
in the playoffs, yeah, and their stars in game two
of the best of five, Yeah, and they're them yeah.
And and and in a ball game that got close
and the half the half the crowd left, they showed shots.
And after a lot of the crowd had left, when
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it was four to nothing, it was over. They were done.
But yeah, it's it's not good. It's not good. They've
already given up. The fans have already given up pretty much.
Now you hear that, like we just heard. Now they're
making the excuses that the Dodgers are the super team.
Right now, they're the Avengers and there's no way in
the world they can beat them. But before the series,
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oh yeah, we match up great against the Dodgers. They
got their stars. We got our stars, and you know,
we can do the same thing they can do. They
got big three. We got our big three, you know,
and we've been able to actually really neutralize their big three,
like really neutralize them. See, that's what happens, and that
will continue to happen By the way once a team
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gets down, going in there confident, their fan base is confident,
we got it, we'll get these guys. We're as good.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
The minute they go down. What happens, Well, how do
you expect us to compete with those guys? What what
you expect?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
We have no shot?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, look what they did. Did you really think we'd win? Well, yeah,
just twenty four hours ago you all thought you'd win.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I believe they were favorites to win the World Series
before the postseason started. Yes, they jumped the Dodgers in
the odds to win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yes they did. Yes, they did. And a lot of
people believe that, you know, lineup for lineup, that that
they were just as good as the Dodgers. You know,
they felt that they're big three matched up with the
Dodgers Big three, and then their supporting cast was as
good as the Dodgers supporting cast. And certainly they believed
in they're pitching. You know, they believe, they believe their
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pitching was as good as the Dodgers. Even though you know,
now that the Dodgers' staff is all healthy, there's there's
no there's no team that can throw out the guys
that the Dodgers have, but they felt that they were
competitive from a pitching standpoint, and for most part their
starting pitchers have been very competitive against the Dodgers. It's
just like we say, though, you better do everything right
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for nine innings when you play the Dodgers. You cannot.
They're there's no room for error. You can't give him
a window, you can't open the door. You can't do
anything other than play perfect baseball for nine innings against
the Dodgers, because you open that door for them, they
will kick it down. They will kick it down. And
that's what the Dodgers do when their full strength, and
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you know, Ned Kelletty comes on and says it all
the time. It is.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
A thing that the Dodgers do better than anybody. They will.
They will grind you, grind you, grind you, grind you,
and all of a sudden you look up and you're
down for it to nothing. It's how they were builtizing Yeah,
it's how they were built. And now everybody is healthy,
and that's exactly what you're seeing. Again.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Your starter, if he's good, he better go like nine
innings because once they get to the bullpen, things change.
And that's That's how it was in the past before
they went through what they did this year. That's how
it was in the past. All right, hey, everybody, this
is a close game in the sixth, no problem for us.
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The game starts in the seventh, so it's gonna be
a little different mindset now. It's like, psychologically, if your
starter is good, once that team goes to the bullpen,
it's like all bets are off.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They have grinded you and grinded you. You've not made
any mistakes. You are in the game, but now you
have to go to the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And when you do, and it's not like four guys
in a row hit home runs all of a sudden,
they just start run around first, okay, guys on second, right, single,
first and third and not particularly ripping the ball all
over the place, no play, And it's fun.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I struck Freddie out. I got freeming out. Oh I'm good,
got freeming out with runners on first and second. Oh,
Will Smith, he ain't played in a while, he's got it.
You know you had a bad risk at hand. I
got him bang double to run double. You know, it's like,
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where does it end? Where does it end? With these guys?
It really is. Where does it end? Oh yeah, I'm
at the bottom up. Oh yeah, and now they I
mean sure they don't forget about KYK because KK might
might as well be. You know, one of the big
three you met, You got to treat him like one
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of the big three in the place, in the in
the postseason, he comes up, he's hitting eighth or seventh
or ninth, whenever he's hitting, you got to treat him
like he's one of the Big three, because you know
a big hit is coming, it's coming. It's amazing. But yeah,
you think you get through like you can take a
deep breath because you just struck out Freddy Freeman with
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two guys on and you got injured Will Smith. Oh yeah,
bangue run double. I love it. I love it. He
just keep coming at you. And by the way, when
he came up last night, I knew he'd get that hit.
You felt it. I felt it. Yeah, I knew he'd
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get the hit. I thought, Okay, here we go. Yes,
maybe he's gonna be a factor because he's one of
those guys too that just loves the moment, loves the
clutch situation, loves the moment. He's grown really grown into
that role in the last couple of years. That he's
very trustworthy and you feel comfortable, like you said the
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other day, you feel so much more comfortable, no disrespecting
anybody else when he's behind the plate, when he's behind
the play. And they had planned, I mean, that was
a plan to bring him in, you know, mid game,
and they did, and him getting the ad bats that
he did when it's crucial. Uh, he's just the confidence
level goes up when he's in the game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
All right, doctor, fans, you heard what the fellies had
to say, Well you heard the postgame show, then you
heard what one of the fans had to say, and
then you heard the local radio host. And it's fair
to say they're completely unraveling before their own very eyes.
These people are unraveling. They believed going in they had
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a shot. Many believed they had the better team, and
as Kevin pointed out, the Phillies.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Were favored to win the World Series. But all of
a sudden is things have gone south.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now they're fighting with themselves, they're arguing about the manager's decision.
They're calling the Dodgers the Avengers, and there's no hope
for them because the Dodgers spent all the money. So
if you could respond back to these Philly fans and
these radio hosts and the CV postgame hosts, what would
you say A six six, nine eighty seven two five seventy.
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we'll do this for one quick segment when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (35:57):
Okay, DoD your fans. We don't have a lot of time,
but we'll take as many as we can get in.
So what do you want to say to those folks
in Philly. Going in, they were favored, thought they had
a legitimate shot, and now basically are unraveling completely and
totally unraveling. So the question becomes, what would you like
to say to those folks? And we're going to get
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the calls here in a second and we'll start popping
them up because the fans in Philly and the people
in Philly are are a little shaky right now.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's like they're going through something. Let's go to David
in Long Beach. David, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
Hey, fred how are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
We're fine, go ahead doing well.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
Okay, a couple of things if I made first on
you guys were talking about the big plays during the
game last night. There were two others that were huge.
One was the Miguel Rojas dive at third base and
then Fredi freemus toe tap in the nineteeny Yeah, that
was a big to Philly fans. As far as Philly fans,
I could just look at you to state Philly who Philly,
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who appreciate it?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Thanks David, it's got to riverside, Jason, appreciate your holding.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Uh, now what do you have to say?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Yeah, the Philly fans are being a lot ridiculous. Their
team has three to four Hall of feamers on as well.
They're starting pitchings and lights out struck out a tony
four times on Saturday. They've been playing great. The lad
problem is their pens just as bad as ours. But
we haven't starting pitching that we can put in there,
and we've been better on the field. If trade Turner
Sturt was on points, they probably win the last night
game and is a completely different series.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Appreciate it. Jason.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
By the way, uh Lariy Zucker, my friend texted Robleski
and Jack Dryer in the bullpen earlier. We're saying who
else is out there? Because you're running out of guys
to go to.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't think Robleski's on the n ods roster.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Okay, well then he's not Larry or wrong, not to
call it Larry, but Larry's getting Yeah, Dryer, Bond those
guys are there.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, we haven't seen BONDI.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
We have not seen Bonda yet.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
No, all right, let's go Paul and Pico Rivera. Paul,
go ahead, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 12 (38:07):
Fellas? I would simply respond to Philly by just saying,
take the Big three out of it because I mean,
Otani struck out. Their big three hasn't done anything. The
difference is is our other role players. We have our
mister October who's tearing it up.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
We have ta Oscar, we have not just the big names,
but we have the supporting team that's complementing our big three.
Speaker 12 (38:32):
So they all know Tani knows, Freeman.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Knows, Bets knows. We don't have to do everything. We
play our role and these guys have our backs. That's
why our defense is doing good and our offense is
generated not just by our big three, but by everybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Okay, appreciate the call, Thank you, thank you very much, Pully. Right,
role players are playing their role and that Philly's role
players are not. Let's go to Los Angeles, Steven, thanks
for holding go ahead.
Speaker 13 (39:04):
Yeah, hi, fred I was putting out after the game
was over. I put on all the national shows and
they were all ripping Dave Roberts for not bringing in
Sasaki right away in the ninth inning. There's only one
thing from the Dodgers rip from repeating is Dave Roberts
decision making.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
On the no no, no, no, no, no, Jesus Chrigt
God right now, Rodney. I can't take it. It never failed,
it never failed. There's always one. There's always one.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, there might be another coming up. But I understand
if people want to be critical of not bringing in Sazaki.
Dave Roberts explained after the game.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How about just the fact that they used Sazaki at all?
Does Dave Roberts get any credit for that at all?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, I think people fight him on if he was
if he was was not going to be available, then
he's not available. Well, but if he's available to put
in that situation, why didn't you bring him in to
begin with? That's the issue that a lot of people have.
If you say he's not available to come up two days,
two out of three days, whatever, then cool, then ride
with it. I think that's a legitimate Wait, what are
you talking about? So if the argument was Sasaki is
simply not available last night.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Which they said he wasn't gonna be available, they did know.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
They didn't say anything one way or the other before
the game started, right, But if the if the idea
was what we didn't want to put him into it,
he hasn't been up and down to you know, twice
in three days or whatever it is, we wanted to
avoid him. Then are you gonna avoid him where you're
gonna use him? If you're gonna end up using them anyway,
why didn't you put him in the ninth They need
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well, if if trying and doesn't blank the bed, then
they don't have to use them.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I mean, I think it's a general it's all an assumption.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You never really know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Most people, like I said moment, well, most people felt
that Trying was not the guy to put in that situation.
Your closer, whether you name him and name or not,
at this point in time, has been Susaki. That is
a closing situation, So why didn't you use them?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But the Dodgers never said Sazaki is the closer.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, we acknowledge that, but you've been using him that
as such since the Wildcard series. So if you're bringing
them in and it's a situation to close out, and
he's our highest leverage reliever and it's pitching as well
as he's pitching, and Trying has been as bad as
he's been, why would you put try It in that
situation unless Sasaki was not available, And if he wasn't available,
why did you put him in?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Because desperate times require desperate measures, absolutely, and you still
you're not gonna be able to just ride I don't
think you can as great as he is right now,
just ride Sazaki as your closer every single game you agree,
you're gonna have to have somebody else is gonna have
to deliver for you. And so I get it. The
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tryings have been shaky at best, but you can't keep
going to that well of Sazaki just because he's a
shiny new toy.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Well, all I'll say is that I think it is
a legitimate criticism. I'm not saying that Dave Roberts should
be fired. That's stupid, But I think it's a legitimate
to question his decision to not put Sasaki in that
in the ninth inning last night, and especially not put
him in and put in Blake Tryon, who has pitched
as poorly as he's pitched. I don't think the critical
of him for for that, For that decision, it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Reinforces Blake Trynon is not the guy. That's all it did?
I mean it needed reinforcement, did it? Yeah? Yeah? The
way he played out, dude.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
All right, yeah, the way happened again, This is you know,
first guessing there are people saying, why the hell are
you putting this guy in the game right now.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right all right, Well you know what they won, and
tomorrow night they can wrap it up. Well we come
back ed. Eric Dickerson joins the show.
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on
a five seventy LA Sports. We have a three hour
program for you today, a big three hour show. So
we are fired up and excited to go, Rodney. And
by the way, at one o'clock ed Eric Dickerson will
jump on. All right as we begin, do you want
to tell me something?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, No, other than yeah, we you know this time
of year, we're we're always you know, lucky and very
happy that we we actually have a three hour show
because it fluctuates so much with the playoff schedule and
sometimes we're on like we were yesterday just for one hour
and actually moved up an hour of eleven to twelve.
(00:44):
And you've heard us sometimes in the mornings when the
playoffs starts. So you know, we're in a rare October
day that we have a full three hour show. FITTI. Okay,
that's not really what I was expecting. But no, I
don't have any What do you want me to tell you?
And there's something you know what you want to say? No,
unless you have something to say.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Kevin, Kevin there, do you have anything you'd like to say?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, good morning, Fred, Rodney, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Good morning, Yeah, good morning. Let's go really okay, so
that's what I want to do? Yes, yeah, top of
a mid afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There's nothing you wanted to talk about, given what happened
last night or a text you may have received.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't what are you getting at? What are you
getting at? Fred?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What am I getting at? I think you both owe
me an apology for what because the Dodger's one. We're
gonna apologize because the Dodgers one. All you said was
gentlemen to it?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What what are you suggesting that Kevin and I didn't
think the Dodgers is gonna win?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No, but I am suggesting that you didn't think I
was correct in saying it's not gonna be as hard
as you think it is.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh that went hard.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah that was real easy, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah? That was you were You were just relaxed all
the way through the night. I'm Freddy. I didn't lose
a second of sleep. I was just comfortable sitting there.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, really, I was sure Rex as soon as Blade
Trying came in and I was like, oh yeah, I
got him right where we want him.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This is Unlet's that go into that right now? Okay,
let's not live that. I do want to tell you though.
So yesterday afternoon I had to go to Venice, uh
not Italy, California, and I was there for some meetings.
So the meetings ended and there was no way I
was going to be able to drive anywhere because traffic
was so awful. So I go to a bar to
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watch the game. And I'm sitting at the bar and
there's a guy sitting next at the next table with
his I find out fiance, and he looks at me
and I smile, you know, I don't know, and he goes,
oh my god, I listened to you guys every single day.
And he's wearing a Dodger hat, the Dodger jersey. So
he says, oh my god, can I buy you a drink?
(02:58):
I said no, no, no, that's fine, thank you, and
he's talking to me. So we take a picture and
he goes, my father has to see this, So I
think he's gonna send the picture to his father. No,
he put his father on FaceTime. So I sat there
and talked to his father because he's a huge Dodger fan.
And in this bar where I was in Venice, I
have to tell you people are not overly relaxed in
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that ninth inning, or the eighth inning for that matter,
they were not really relaxed. They were very concerned. And
I just sat there and smiled. I said, no, it's
gonna be okay, it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I wouldn't even give it a second thought. It's going
to be fine. That's what you said in your outside voice,
But inside you were panic fit.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I was terrifying. Yes, I was terrified. Inside, Yes I was.
I was like, this cannot happen, dear god. Here we
went back to the bullpen. I was like, no, no, no, no.
And when Blake Trining performed his magic, I sat there
(04:03):
and went, well, now he's done.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We can't put him anymore, not only anymore, either of
you think, because I feel like a lot of people
first guess this when you saw him coming out of
the bullp and you were like, what the bleep are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No? You know what I thought? You know what I thought?
What did you think? He's got it? Okay, he's back.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is the night. He's back, and he's got it.
And just watch him mull him down. And then it
was like, oh no, oh no, here we go again. Yeah,
and it's scary because you're running out of guys you
can put in Rodney.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be disaster,
you know, given the fact that because he came in.
What was for to one at the time? Was it
four zero? No, it's for one, right, right, He's got
to be for to one. He came in, and I'm thinking, Okay,
it can't it can't be a disaster. Maybe he gives
up a hit or two and you know, and and
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he he finds a way to get out of it.
But like you mentioned, you're running out of arms back there.
Somebody's got somebody that you've used all season long. Somebody's
got to step it up and come through otherwise, you know,
you can't trot Vessia and Suzaki out there every single game.
Somebody else has to, you know, come through. And you
(05:20):
just think, Okay, it's not a tie ball game, or
it's not a one run ball game. Trying and who's
done it before can find it in this particular situation.
But he couldn't. He really couldn't. And that's why I
texted you guys after that. That was to me, that
was kind of like that, that was the last draw,
I think he goes into the Tanner Scott category of
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for the remainder of this series, he cannot be put
into a high leverage and I'm saying three to four
runs is high leverage for him. Now, you can't put
him in that situation anymore if you need him to
go eat up an inning when you're up seven maybe,
or you're up five, maybe, But to put him in
(06:05):
in the eighth where you're you're you're sitting at a
three run lead with two guys on base, or you're
sitting with the one run lead with a guy on base.
He's no longer that guy this season for you. He's
proven that. And so the question becomes, Okay, now who
are you leaning on? Are you leaning on Glass? Now?
(06:26):
Who's slated at the start Game four? So he's not
available to you know tomorrow night? Sazaki and Imachian and Vessia.
Is that where your limitations are in terms of the bullpen? Yeah?
At this point? Who else is even out there? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Enriquez is out there, Tryning's out there, Scott's out there.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Who do they have left?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They only can put in Vessia, in Sazaki.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's it. I don't even know who's everybody else has been.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Hit, right or not even on the uh on the
particular roster, right? I mean, are we going to see
Ben Casperius in the ls is? Will they bring him back?
Why wouldn't they? At this point again, Grant, I sat
there with my outside face smiling and telling everybody was okay,
(07:24):
an inside I was thinking, oh, dear.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
God, don't lose this game.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If they lose that game last night, Rodney, the entire series,
the complexion of the series changes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh yeah, one, you know, after breaking their back the
way they Dodgers did, to go up for nothing, and that's,
you know, basically what the Dodgers do. Right, it looks
like everything's going great for you, great for you, great
for you, and the Dodgers just grind it, grind it.
And we said that yesterday. Grind you out, grind you out,
grinds you out, and all of a sudden they have
a big inning and that's exactly what happened. And now
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you're sitting there as Phillies and Philly fans going our
guy pitched the gym, I mean he did for for
for the Phillies. What was his name again, Lozardo he
pitched his ass off. He was he was dealing, and
you're thinking, Okay, we got our starting pitcher to go
deep and he's got him off balance. We're good, we're good,
(08:18):
We're good. And then he kind of got hit a
little bit and walked and and so they they they
changed up, and then the Dodgers got to him, and
you're thinking, if your phillies, you're thinking, oh god, this
is just the Dodgers. What happens. But then they they
have a little opportunity to get it back and you know,
(08:40):
tie the game, and the Dodgers make an unbelievable play
which we'll talk about on the bunt that keeps the
guy off third base with less than two outs. So
they can't tie it up. But if they tie that
game up and they go win. To your point, Fred, yes,
the complexion and the whole complexion of the series and
the game changes because now they went from dead in
the water being tied one one. Going back to la.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Blake, Snell was dominant. That's exactly why the Dodgers signed him.
And even earlier in the year or when he was hurt.
I made the point, and I will say it again,
he's not here for the first half of the season.
I mean, yes, he signed, and it's great if he
goes No, he's here for after the All Star break
because he is money, just money. He he he looks
(09:29):
like the best free agent signing and probably was of
the offseason or in years. I mean, to have him
on your team in games like that, you know you've
got a shout to win every single time he goes out.
And he looked fantastic last night, Rodney. No, he was dominant.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He was every bit of what we thought and think
Blake Snell is and can be. He and he lives
for these kind of moments. I thought it was great
that he was slotted to pitch Game two in phil
because I can't think of a better guy to go
into hostile environments and shut the crowd down and shut
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the team down. Then Blake Snell. He's got the stuff
to do it, number one. But between the ears, his brain,
his cockiness, his attitude, he's the guy I want. He's
the guy I want in on the road and the
hostile I want him more than anybody else on that staff,
including Otani. I'd rather have if I was one game
to win in Philly. You gotta go back to Philly
(10:29):
for Game five, and it's everybody available. I'm trotting Blake
Snell out there before anybody else. Why hear you let
your Oh please, but that's your guy, it is now Zilla.
That was your guy for during.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The off season. Yes, the only guy you wanted. Oh,
I'm sorry you guys also wanted the terrific Max Freed.
That went well last night, didn't it. Oh, now you're
gonna pounce on Max Freed.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who's gonna be the you know, close to the second
place and to Cy Young win and led the league
and and wins that Max Free, Yeah, he had an
off night. And Toronto's just on a eater right now.
So just like Milwaukee is. You know, sometimes sometimes hitters
getting a groove, just like pitchers do. And when they're
in a groove, you can't no matter what you throw,
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they're hitting it. And as a team, Toronto's doing that,
and so is Milwaukee. Milwaukee's surprising me. Why by the
way that your feelings of Milwaukee change now a little bit.
You know, always said, oh, they can't handle the pressure,
they'd never been there before, They're not going to be
I think they get bounced early and they're not a threat.
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Do you think they're a threat? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
More of a threat than I thought. I think the
Dodgers handled, but more of a threat than I thought.
I think Dodger pitching will rule. Let's talk defense last night,
two big plays. How about Mickey Rojas diving, diving to
make that play?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah? Yeah, Defensively, there's not much I mean when you
are able to throw him in the game at second
base or third base. Defensively, there's not many many guys
better than him, even at his age and his knowledge
of the game and understanding the game. But defensively, fundamentally,
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he is a fantastic defensive player, and you feel comfortable,
I know, as a pitcher you feel comfortable seeing him
behind you. But yeah, unbelievable play by him. All right?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And now the infamous wheel, the moment that many people
thought decided the game. Costiano's on second base, the fellaw's
trying to bunt him down to third, and if he's
in third, you know why anything happen if he gets
on to third and the Dodgers executed something called the Wheel.
So Rodney, you played, Can you talk about the wheel?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yes? All right? So normally in situations if there's a
bunch situation, if there's a runner on first base, what
you're taught as a is a hitter in the box.
As a bunter, you bunt the ball to the right side,
which is the first base side of the plate, to
the second base side and to get the runner to
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second base, because that is the most difficult play. If
a runner is on second base and you're bunting, you're
taught to bunt the ball to the third baseman. Make
the third baseman field the ball. And the reason for
that is that it's a very difficult cover for the
shortstop to get the third base. The pitcher can't get there,
nobody else can get there but the shortstop. So if
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you make the third baseman field it, then more than
likely you're going to be safe at third base if
you get the bunt down, which is why they also
tell the pitchers in that situation as soon as you release,
sprint to the third baseline so you can field the ball,
so you can get the third baseman can get back
the third base. It was actually a very good bunt,
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but the Dodgers executed it to perfection, and it's something
which is ironic, as they talked about it before that
happened that if this happens, we're gonna do the wheel.
We're gonna on the wheel, which is Mooki shortstop running
the third base and beating the runner from second base
to third base, and Max turning and wheeling and throwing
Tomoki at third base as opposed to just getting the
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out at first. If you feeld it clean is what
they're taught. If Max Munsey you feeled it clean and
it's a sharply hit bunt, then turn, take a peek
and make sure you've got him at third base. That
is your first option. If you don't, then you wheel
and throw it back to first base. He fielded it clean,
Mooki got a great jump to get the third base
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before Constiano's and he threw a perfect strike to Mooki
on the run, and Mooki made the tag. So and
it's not a play that you practice a whole lot either, Fred,
because it rarely comes up in a situation. You know,
it's it's like one of those things you spend one day,
maybe or half a day in spring training going through
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and then you never think about it again.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You have to understand that they did something that none
of us can do of course they play, none of
us can do that. But the execution of that that
was the game, by the way, and then Sazaki in
the ninth, but that moment right there, that was it.
If Munthsy doesn't field the ball cleanly. I want you
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to think about all the things that go on here.
First of all, Mooki is playing shortstop, and he's playing
closer to second base than he.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is to third. Yes, so let's stop get that, And
he's got to try to hold the second base runner,
try to hold him as close to second base as
possible so he doesn't get a big, gigantic lead to
help him get the third base. So Mookie can't just
seat all the way to third base. He's got to
be in a position where they think there is a
possible pickoff at second base. So let's start. You know,
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he's got to start in position of playing a regular shortstop.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So that's how far he is from third base. As
a matter of fact, as the pitcher up, the runner
on base is closer to third base than Muki is.
Because Mooky's got a kind of cheap back to try
to give the illusion he's holding the guy as soon
as the pitcher releases or just prior. Muki now in
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a dead sprint, has to beat the runner to third base. Now,
if that's Trey Turner, it's going to be a little
different than if it's Costiano's. Nonetheless, Mooki on a dead
run has to beat the runner to third The ball
is bunted, Munsie must field the ball cleanly. Yes, he
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has about a second to make a determination on where
he's going to throw it. He grabs it, he turns.
Mouki is still moving, but now he's ahead of Costiano's.
He's still moving. Munsey has to make a perfect throw.
It can't be off the slightest bit because Mooki is moving.
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Muncie puts the ball on the money. Mooki beats Costiano's
to the bag and is able to tag him out.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Afterwards, Freddie Freeman talked about it with Mooki especially.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I think Max mentioned his idea to run the wheel
player in the pitching change.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Yeah, we were talking about So the whole conversation during
was that, obviously, and then if we run the wheel play,
that means there's going to be no one at second base.
So that's when I chimed in. I said, if he
bumps the third base, Max, you throw it a month, Mooki,
Tommy's going to first. All sprint to second base if
it's not coming to me. That's why you saw me
running the second. So we were just coming up with
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a plan on the wheel play to make sure we
still had every base cover so he couldn't go home
to second. And obviously they pulled They pulled off perfectly.
But what does it say about Muki to be able
to execute in that kind of spot, at this position
that he's been taking out. Yeah, I mean, I think
hopefully everyone realizes how hard it is to switch positions
and then do it at an elite level that Mooki
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has done it this year. We were talking about doing
a wheel play a couple of weeks ago in a
certain situation as well, So that's been on our mind
to kind of bring that out in that situation, and
that was just a perfect perfect time to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Nick.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Obviously there's not Trey Turner running, so we had a
better chance of that. So that's why we were gun
ho on that wheel play, and obviously Mooki and then
Max and everyone just confident in pulling that off. And
I mean everything was just perfect on that play.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's something that we're thinking about doing, but they don't
practice every day, and they had to nail it. It
had to be perfection, and they got.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No room for error. Yeah, like you said, you know,
and what we just said. The reason Mookie can't cheat
all the way to third base. He's got to hold
the runner so the runner can't get a you know,
a lead that's halfway to third base on the pitch,
and because as Freddy said, Tommy Edmonds is coming first,
because Freddy's also crashing to get the butt in case
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it bunnet to first base side, and then Freddie ran
to second base to make sure that after the play
someone is covering second base so the bunter could not
go from home to second base. I mean, all of
those things come into play and it has to be
executed perfectly, and they absolutely did that. And you talk
about the margin for error. It had to be a
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perfect throw. As you mentioned, Max had to field it clean.
Mooki on the run catching it clean and then making
the tag. And if you remember, maybe it was the
inning before that started the big inning. The infield's in
for Philly. Trey Turner gets a weak ground ball to him.
He throws it home and it's on the right side
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of the plate. Had it been on the left side
of the plate, Taoscar's out at home. That's how close
it is. And that's what the margin for error is.
If Real Muto is able to catch that ball on
the left on the third base side and Trey Turner
throws it to the third base side, Taoskar doesn't score.
The ball into the right side and Taskar scored. And
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that is the difference between the Dodgers scoring to run
and Max Munsey throwing a strike to Mooki and Mookie
being in position to make the tag and them getting out,
getting and out and keeping the runner off third base
for the Dodgers. And that's how small in the playoffs,
especially the margin for victory are.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All right, now, let's hear the Phillies manager after the game. Oh,
who do we have, Kevin? I'm sorry, Oh, I'm sorry,
all right, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
My mistake. I got it and I sent it to you.
I should know.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So what we're gonna do is we'll take a break
right here when we come back. It's not the Phillies
manager that was a bad call. It's the Phillies postgame
show argument. Yeah, so things are unraveling a bit in Philadelphia.
To be very honest with you, we've got a few
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things for you to hear when we come back.
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Speaker 9 (21:34):
Oh yes, full Fled's three hours show for us today
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan on a Tuesday, Dodger's up to nothing,
just getting some uh some thoughts out of the way.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We also we're gonna take some calls, right Fred.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, we'll do it. We'll take some We'll set this
up then we'll let people react to it. One hundred percent.
So I think things are starting one ravel. Rodney played
in Philadelphia. He understands the fans, he understands the market
there very well. So we got some sound now from
various points in Philadelphia. Uh, the Phillies after each game,
no matter where it's broadcast, whatever network, they do a
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postgame show on their regional sports channel, very much like
Sports not light Wood, even if the game is televised nationally.
So this comes this comes from the Phillies postgame show.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
Listen, my dad used to say, I don't care what
he did. I want to know what you did. And
what Rob Thompson did was not pinch run. He bunned
with Scott when he could.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Have pitched run.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Could not could not run the guy because he had
to hold on bad Vader could not run the basis.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Walk.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
You would have to let him walk the second to
run scores the man.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He would have been done. If he would have had
to run, he probably would. I wouldn't have had him run.
But that's that's how you gotta be thinking.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Come on, okay, that came from the postgame TV show
on the Phillies champ.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
It sounds like an SNL skit of guys making fun
of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
S forescasters. It does it? Does? It does? Guy tried
to point out Bader can't run. Oh, I still put
him in there anyway, But you just said to put
him in there. To put a guy in a pinch
run for a guy, but you put a pinch guy
pitch runner, and who's probably a better runner than the
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guy that's out there. But bater is hurt. But the
guy was trying to explain to him, but the guy
wouldn't have it. It's a typical Philly though.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, all they did set there and yelled at each other.
They were so upset they started yelling at each other.
So now let's let's see what a Philly fan had
to say about the Dodgers.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
So the Phillies are really supposed to go out there
and play nine innings against the Avengers? Bro, what even
is this team? They're lead off basically baseball jeesus just
gonna pop over fifty five sixty home runs every season.
It's not even that big of a deal anymore. Oh,
and he's a starting pitcher tonight, just because why the not.
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They're twol hitter, another former MVP, because why not. Also,
he has six gold gloves, because why not. Then their
three hitter is playing like Thanos right now, just blasting
everything four hundred feet. Then they're cleanup hitter, another former
MVP gold glove winner, because why not.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, so that's how the fans and Philly feel about
the Dodgers. Now now you understand the frustration.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's starting to seep in.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Of course, going in, everybody thoughts it would be a
very close series and really to be there the team
that you would think would give the Dodgers the most.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, Fred, I mean going back,
it's not like this is the Toronto Blue Jays and
the Yankees, where Toronto's you know, scoring ten runs and
blowing them out. It's seven to nothing after four inning.
These games could have gone either way, both of them
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either way. I mean the Dodgers steal won in Game
one with Taioska didn't do anything until that home run
at three run blast that he hit to give him
the lead. But up until then the Dodgers were getting
dominated basically, and Otani, although really good for about five innings,
his first couple of innings he struggled and they got
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three runs off of him. So success this has been
easy or the Dodgers dominating in the Phillies. That's not
the case.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, but you have to understand they look at it
very differently. They lose by one, they lose by one hundred.
They lost and going in. They believed that they had
a legit shot at this thing, and that's what the expert.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Said they did. What are you talking about? Yeah they did, Well,
I knew they didn't. They still do.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yes, that's fair, that's fair, and that's why we should
listen to this local Philly radio host going off.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
The main issue with this team, Trey Turner, Bryce Harper,
and Kyle Schwarber.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The main issue.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Is that and.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Boom two oak count.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Baby, let's see you give it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
A real swing, it at trash, swinging at vomit, swinging
at something that wasn't in the heart of the meat
and potatoes of the plane on a two old count
smart baseball bomber. Here you go, kid, Hey, that's right here, kid.
Any way to go, Bud.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Rodney, That's really how Philly radio w is, isn't it. No,
that was a little extreme. That was a little extreme.
But but yeah, for the most part they yeah, yeah,
he's on the extreme end. But there's no there's no
calm end of that spectrum. It's it's like midway to
that guy. There's no other end of that spectrum for
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for Philly radio. But yeah, he represents a good majority
of of Philly fans especially, And and the ironic piece
of this is that sometimes they're like that when the
Phillies win. They were the last night during the game yeah,
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in the playoffs, yeah, and their stars in game two
of the best of five, Yeah, and they're them yeah.
And and and in a ball game that got close
and the half the half the crowd left, they showed shots.
And after a lot of the crowd had left, when
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it was four to nothing, it was over. They were done.
But yeah, it's it's not good. It's not good. They've
already given up. The fans have already given up pretty much.
Now you hear that, like we just heard. Now they're
making the excuses that the Dodgers are the super team.
Right now, they're the Avengers and there's no way in
the world they can beat them. But before the series,
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oh yeah, we match up great against the Dodgers. They
got their stars. We got our stars, and you know,
we can do the same thing they can do. They
got big three. We got our big three, you know,
and we've been able to actually really neutralize their big three,
like really neutralize them. See, that's what happens, and that
will continue to happen By the way once a team
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gets down, going in there confident, their fan base is confident,
we got it, we'll get these guys. We're as good.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
The minute they go down. What happens, Well, how do
you expect us to compete with those guys? What what
you expect?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
We have no shot?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, look what they did. Did you really think we'd win? Well, yeah,
just twenty four hours ago you all thought you'd win.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I believe they were favorites to win the World Series
before the postseason started. Yes, they jumped the Dodgers in
the odds to win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yes they did. Yes, they did. And a lot of
people believe that, you know, lineup for lineup, that that
they were just as good as the Dodgers. You know,
they felt that they're big three matched up with the
Dodgers Big three, and then their supporting cast was as
good as the Dodgers supporting cast. And certainly they believed
in they're pitching. You know, they believe, they believe their
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pitching was as good as the Dodgers. Even though you know,
now that the Dodgers' staff is all healthy, there's there's
no there's no team that can throw out the guys
that the Dodgers have, but they felt that they were
competitive from a pitching standpoint, and for most part their
starting pitchers have been very competitive against the Dodgers. It's
just like we say, though, you better do everything right
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for nine innings when you play the Dodgers. You cannot.
They're there's no room for error. You can't give him
a window, you can't open the door. You can't do
anything other than play perfect baseball for nine innings against
the Dodgers, because you open that door for them, they
will kick it down. They will kick it down. And
that's what the Dodgers do when their full strength, and
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you know, Ned Kelletty comes on and says it all
the time. It is.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
A thing that the Dodgers do better than anybody. They will.
They will grind you, grind you, grind you, grind you,
and all of a sudden you look up and you're
down for it to nothing. It's how they were builtizing Yeah,
it's how they were built. And now everybody is healthy,
and that's exactly what you're seeing. Again.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Your starter, if he's good, he better go like nine
innings because once they get to the bullpen, things change.
And that's That's how it was in the past before
they went through what they did this year. That's how
it was in the past. All right, hey, everybody, this
is a close game in the sixth, no problem for us.
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The game starts in the seventh, so it's gonna be
a little different mindset now. It's like, psychologically, if your
starter is good, once that team goes to the bullpen,
it's like all bets are off.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
They have grinded you and grinded you. You've not made
any mistakes. You are in the game, but now you
have to go to the bullpen.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And when you do, and it's not like four guys
in a row hit home runs all of a sudden,
they just start run around first, okay, guys on second, right, single,
first and third and not particularly ripping the ball all
over the place, no play, And it's fun.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I struck Freddie out. I got freeming out. Oh I'm good,
got freeming out with runners on first and second. Oh,
Will Smith, he ain't played in a while, he's got it.
You know you had a bad risk at hand. I
got him bang double to run double. You know, it's like,
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where does it end? Where does it end? With these guys?
It really is. Where does it end? Oh yeah, I'm
at the bottom up. Oh yeah, and now they I
mean sure they don't forget about KYK because KK might
might as well be. You know, one of the big
three you met, You got to treat him like one
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of the big three in the place, in the in
the postseason, he comes up, he's hitting eighth or seventh
or ninth, whenever he's hitting, you got to treat him
like he's one of the Big three, because you know
a big hit is coming, it's coming. It's amazing. But yeah,
you think you get through like you can take a
deep breath because you just struck out Freddy Freeman with
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two guys on and you got injured Will Smith. Oh yeah,
bangue run double. I love it. I love it. He
just keep coming at you. And by the way, when
he came up last night, I knew he'd get that hit.
You felt it. I felt it. Yeah, I knew he'd
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get the hit. I thought, Okay, here we go. Yes,
maybe he's gonna be a factor because he's one of
those guys too that just loves the moment, loves the
clutch situation, loves the moment. He's grown really grown into
that role in the last couple of years. That he's
very trustworthy and you feel comfortable, like you said the
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other day, you feel so much more comfortable, no disrespecting
anybody else when he's behind the plate, when he's behind
the play. And they had planned, I mean, that was
a plan to bring him in, you know, mid game,
and they did, and him getting the ad bats that
he did when it's crucial. Uh, he's just the confidence
level goes up when he's in the game.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
All right, doctor, fans, you heard what the fellies had
to say, Well you heard the postgame show, then you
heard what one of the fans had to say, and
then you heard the local radio host. And it's fair
to say they're completely unraveling before their own very eyes.
These people are unraveling. They believed going in they had
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a shot. Many believed they had the better team, and
as Kevin pointed out, the Phillies.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Were favored to win the World Series. But all of
a sudden is things have gone south.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now they're fighting with themselves, they're arguing about the manager's decision.
They're calling the Dodgers the Avengers, and there's no hope
for them because the Dodgers spent all the money. So
if you could respond back to these Philly fans and
these radio hosts and the CV postgame hosts, what would
you say A six six, nine eighty seven two five seventy.
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That is the number Eric Dickerson's on at one. So
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Speaker 1 (35:57):
Okay, DoD your fans. We don't have a lot of time,
but we'll take as many as we can get in.
So what do you want to say to those folks
in Philly. Going in, they were favored, thought they had
a legitimate shot, and now basically are unraveling completely and
totally unraveling. So the question becomes, what would you like
to say to those folks? And we're going to get
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the calls here in a second and we'll start popping
them up because the fans in Philly and the people
in Philly are are a little shaky right now.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's like they're going through something. Let's go to David
in Long Beach. David, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
Hey, fred how are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
We're fine, go ahead doing well.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
Okay, a couple of things if I made first on
you guys were talking about the big plays during the
game last night. There were two others that were huge.
One was the Miguel Rojas dive at third base and
then Fredi freemus toe tap in the nineteeny Yeah, that
was a big to Philly fans. As far as Philly fans,
I could just look at you to state Philly who Philly,
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who appreciate it?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Thanks David, it's got to riverside, Jason, appreciate your holding.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Uh, now what do you have to say?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Yeah, the Philly fans are being a lot ridiculous. Their
team has three to four Hall of feamers on as well.
They're starting pitchings and lights out struck out a tony
four times on Saturday. They've been playing great. The lad
problem is their pens just as bad as ours. But
we haven't starting pitching that we can put in there,
and we've been better on the field. If trade Turner
Sturt was on points, they probably win the last night
game and is a completely different series.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Appreciate it. Jason.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
By the way, uh Lariy Zucker, my friend texted Robleski
and Jack Dryer in the bullpen earlier. We're saying who
else is out there? Because you're running out of guys
to go to.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't think Robleski's on the n ods roster.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Okay, well then he's not Larry or wrong, not to
call it Larry, but Larry's getting Yeah, Dryer, Bond those
guys are there.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, we haven't seen BONDI.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
We have not seen Bonda yet.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
No, all right, let's go Paul and Pico Rivera. Paul,
go ahead, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 12 (38:07):
Fellas? I would simply respond to Philly by just saying,
take the Big three out of it because I mean,
Otani struck out. Their big three hasn't done anything. The
difference is is our other role players. We have our
mister October who's tearing it up.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
We have ta Oscar, we have not just the big names,
but we have the supporting team that's complementing our big three.
Speaker 12 (38:32):
So they all know Tani knows, Freeman.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Knows, Bets knows. We don't have to do everything. We
play our role and these guys have our backs. That's
why our defense is doing good and our offense is
generated not just by our big three, but by everybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Okay, appreciate the call, Thank you, thank you very much, Pully. Right,
role players are playing their role and that Philly's role
players are not. Let's go to Los Angeles, Steven, thanks
for holding go ahead.
Speaker 13 (39:04):
Yeah, hi, fred I was putting out after the game
was over. I put on all the national shows and
they were all ripping Dave Roberts for not bringing in
Sasaki right away in the ninth inning. There's only one
thing from the Dodgers rip from repeating is Dave Roberts
decision making.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
On the no no, no, no, no, no, Jesus Chrigt
God right now, Rodney. I can't take it. It never failed,
it never failed. There's always one. There's always one.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, there might be another coming up. But I understand
if people want to be critical of not bringing in Sazaki.
Dave Roberts explained after the game.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How about just the fact that they used Sazaki at all?
Does Dave Roberts get any credit for that at all?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, I think people fight him on if he was
if he was was not going to be available, then
he's not available. Well, but if he's available to put
in that situation, why didn't you bring him in to
begin with? That's the issue that a lot of people have.
If you say he's not available to come up two days,
two out of three days, whatever, then cool, then ride
with it. I think that's a legitimate Wait, what are
you talking about? So if the argument was Sasaki is
simply not available last night.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Which they said he wasn't gonna be available, they did know.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
They didn't say anything one way or the other before
the game started, right, But if the if the idea
was what we didn't want to put him into it,
he hasn't been up and down to you know, twice
in three days or whatever it is, we wanted to
avoid him. Then are you gonna avoid him where you're
gonna use him? If you're gonna end up using them anyway,
why didn't you put him in the ninth They need
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Well, if if trying and doesn't blank the bed, then
they don't have to use them.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
I mean, I think it's a general it's all an assumption.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You never really know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Most people, like I said moment, well, most people felt
that Trying was not the guy to put in that situation.
Your closer, whether you name him and name or not,
at this point in time, has been Susaki. That is
a closing situation, So why didn't you use them?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But the Dodgers never said Sazaki is the closer.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, we acknowledge that, but you've been using him that
as such since the Wildcard series. So if you're bringing
them in and it's a situation to close out, and
he's our highest leverage reliever and it's pitching as well
as he's pitching, and Trying has been as bad as
he's been, why would you put try It in that
situation unless Sasaki was not available, And if he wasn't available,
why did you put him in?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Because desperate times require desperate measures, absolutely, and you still
you're not gonna be able to just ride I don't
think you can as great as he is right now,
just ride Sazaki as your closer every single game you agree,
you're gonna have to have somebody else is gonna have
to deliver for you. And so I get it. The
(41:42):
tryings have been shaky at best, but you can't keep
going to that well of Sazaki just because he's a
shiny new toy.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Well, all I'll say is that I think it is
a legitimate criticism. I'm not saying that Dave Roberts should
be fired. That's stupid, But I think it's a legitimate
to question his decision to not put Sasaki in that
in the ninth inning last night, and especially not put
him in and put in Blake Tryon, who has pitched
as poorly as he's pitched. I don't think the critical
of him for for that, For that decision, it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Reinforces Blake Trynon is not the guy. That's all it did?
I mean it needed reinforcement, did it? Yeah? Yeah? The
way he played out, dude.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
All right, yeah, the way happened again, This is you know,
first guessing there are people saying, why the hell are
you putting this guy in the game right now.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right all right, Well you know what they won, and
tomorrow night they can wrap it up. Well we come
back ed. Eric Dickerson joins the show.
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