October 7, 2025 • 45 mins
Eric Dickerson joins us to talk about the NFC West race in the wake of the Rams loss to the 49ers last Thursday. We also talk about the Raiders' blowout loss to the Colts and the Chargers blowing a 10-0 lead against the Commanders at home
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, we continue on. Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete, and ed.
Eric Dickerson joins the show, and Eric, good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good afternoon, Fred, Good afternoon, Dodger fans. I know everybody's happy.
I'm happy. I got a big smile on my face,
and you know, hope we can close this thing out tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
When is the first time you've ever said on this show, Fred,
good afternoon to you, and good afternoon Dodger fans.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't think I've ever said that. I'm I'm in
a very gleeful mood, you know, after the dog because
I'm gonna tell you, man, Fred, I was worried about
about them going back to Philly playing. I mean, you know,
Philly has a real good baseball team. And I'm gonna
say this much here. I'm not a baseball connoiseur. I
know more about the Dodgers than I've ever known about
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baseball ever. I mean, I know the Dodgers and pretty
much their players, but other teams I really don't know
that much about. But I do know watching Philly and
watching the highlights on them and Wathington play this season,
they had a good baseball team and they go back
there and beat them two games. I just hoping. I said,
if we could win one and come back home and
close it out, I think have been great. But to
win two is big. And I got to say one
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more thing too, just to show you how fans are,
especially Philly fans man the football, the baseball. A friend
of mine was back there, uh to what to watch
the game and said that the fans were saying that
o'tany he's a bum. He's a bum. He's just a bum.
I'm like, now, come on, man, let's be for real.
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I mean, if O'tana was on your team, you would
be jumping around with if they told him give you
some pump pumps and a dress they put them on.
I mean, it's just amazing how these fans are, how
they degrade player. You know what, if if a player
is a great player and he plays for another team,
no problem. But Philadelphia, man, they if Jesus came to Philly,
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they'd hate Jesus, to be honest with you, that's just
how they fans are. But I'm glad to see the
Dodgers win, and I'm glad to see him win in
that fashion. You know, like what I always tell you ridingy.
If this would have happened, man, we had him were
the one. But that's what say that? Who says that that?
Losers always say that, and Philly, that's what losers says.
We have, We almost have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We almost had.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Only this would have happened, if only that, only that
would have happened. You know, if Mookie Best wouldn't have
got got him out the third basis months he wouldn't
through that that that through it over, Tim made him
get out of the third base, you might have had
a month on third base, you know. But I got
to say this much here? What's the picture for? For
the uh for? Is it the Ross Brown? He can
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throw it? Man, I mean he can, he can. He's
he's a good picture and make I said, I don't
know a lot about Philly, but he's a good piece
of good picture. He's young, is it? He looked like
he he could. He he could throw it. Thank God
we got blakes. Now I'm saying I'll say that, but
you know, I feel bad for I feel bad for trying.
I really do. I feel bad for him because you know,
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if the Dodgers would have lost that baseball game, it
would have been ugly I mean really ugly. You know
right now, you notice as well as I do. You know,
when you're going through something, you know you're not playing well.
I mean even like I must use it as an example. Okay,
they did win the football game, but trust me, Fred,
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he is frustrated. He didn't sleep well last night. Because
when you when you play, when you play a game
and you don't play well, even sometimes when you play good,
you still dream about you dream about the football game,
the baseball game. But when you play a game that
you love and you don't play well and you almost
sometimes you almost have your team. And I'm not saying
you blame it on him to lose, man, it is
like it's almost like having PTSD because you you worry
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for the next time. You know, if they put me
in the next time, what's going to happen? I mean,
you know, am I going to be that guy that
that people are going to be, you know, booing and
talk about why you're bringing them in? I really I
really feel bad for him because he was he was
a great pitchy. But all of a sudden, man, he's
got this confidence, right, you know, it's all about the
it's all it's all about your confidence. And that's what
it comes down to any sport, not just baseball football.
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It's about your confidence. I mean, and right now you
can see that he just does not have the confidence.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Once you have the the fielding version of the yips.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I guess you got the he got the yips.
I mean, he got he got the he got to
oh my gods.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, you can't always put your finger on it. Like everybody, right,
what's wrong withty? What's wrong witting?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And you a lot of times, most times in that
situation where a guy has been really good and all
of a sudden, it's like like you said, Eric, in
any sport, a guy all of a sudden in basketball
can't hit a free throw, and or or in football
he fumbles, or or quarterback is off and can't can't
hit the you know, the right target, and it's always
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high with the ball for some whatever reason. And then
and with pitching and hitting, you know, Mookie Betts went
through that. Remember all the frustrating he went through, and
and everybody asking him, every Mookie, what are you doing
to fix this?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
How do you fix this?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Can you tell us what's happening? And he kept saying,
I don't know. I'm spending hours and hours in the cage,
I'm hitting, I'm watching videotape. I'm doing everything I can.
But right now, I just I don't know why I'm
not hitting. And I'm sure the same thing is for
trying it is. I am doing everything I can to
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figure out why I'm not hitting my spots, why certain
things are not going the right way, and I just
can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sometimes you chalk it up to it's just the Camra
of sports.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's it. It's just a but it's just a bad
year sometimes. I mean, you can come in and feel great, like, man,
I feel great. I think I'm gonna have a really
good year. And it could start off great or it
could start off horrible. But at some point when you
when you when it's going bad, it starts going bad,
not just you know physically, your your physical play, it
starts going bad and mentally. And I'm telling you, fred Man,
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and I'm telling you I know from experience. I guarant
he takes his home with it, he takes it home
and it just played over and over in your mind,
like what am I doing wrong? It's killing me. I
give you just just a quick example, this Hays another
baseball's football. Somebody sent me some highlights on some highlights
on myself the other day, and you know how all
my runs and stuff, and it showed that game when
we played the Washington Redskins. I've talked about this game before.
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We lost this game seventeen to nine. We had seven turnovers,
three of them were my turnovers. Still to this day, Fred,
that bothers me. It bothers me. Just I'm like when
I'm like, oh my god, I mean, now, imagine playing
a game like this or World Series game and just
say you get the winning home run to hit off you.
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Fifty years later, it would still haunt you. And like
I said, you know, and I say, this has been
after that was earnestly. It was nineteen it was nineteen
eighty six when it's happened. It's been forty years, Fred,
And I've never forgotten. It still bugs me when I
see those highlights. I'm like, that was my worst game
as a pro ever, and I've never forgotten it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
When you think back to that game, do you remember
what happened on each fumble?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Pretty much? I mean, strip one of them I was running,
it just literally just fell just fell out of we
we on the out down by the gold We like
on the twenty yard line. I make a cut in
the I go one way and the ball goes the
other way, and you're like, what the hell man, I mean,
it's frustrating. And then you then all of a sudden,
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you get in your mind riding just like throwing interceptions.
If you throw, if you throw a bad interception, even
if you want to okay, he picked it off, and
you throw anohing like oh now now, oh you throw
when that comes close, like oh my god, please not
another one, not another one.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's with your mind and all.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Instead of instead of anticipating the throw, you're like extra
cautious and you wait and you delay and you're late
with the throw and it's another interception, you know, because
now you start thinking about it so much, and it's
it becomes a mental gymnastics of you know, do I
trust who I've always been or trust this terrible moment
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that I'm going through right now.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And it's difficult. It's difficult. I really feel bad for
him because you know, I guess I think anybody has
played any kind of sports at any level. You know,
it could be my big big pony league, could be
the little league, it could be uh you know, pick
up football and be seventh grade football. When you when
you're going through it, it's just it's just it's just
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it bothers you. It really it really bought, especially at
this level because it's the big leagues. You know, they
expect you to be perfect, and no one's perfect all
the time. But you know, you look at you look
at a guy like Snail, Who's who's who's doing it?
I mean, and then you know, then you got to
bring in, you bring it was it sazaki you bring
him in to finish it off. But you know, you
hope that you can depend on triton. But right now,
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I mean, I hate you can't. You just can't. And
then that that's a that's that's a that's a bad feeling.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Okay, well the Rams are going through a bit of
a bad feeling now too.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Eric, Oh my god, I don't even give me talking
about that, fred Man, don't get me talking about that.
Don't get me talking about that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
We talked about it here. We have to do we
have to Yes, we do it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
When I said because because first of all, I just
hate the forty nine ers, man, I hate them like
I hate University of Texas that fans are so I
got these Texans from some of these forty nine things
we did. I said, excuse my mother, you don't even play,
You're just a fan. I said, what's your number? You
ain't got a number? You know we did that, We
did this. Man, I what Fred you know? I said,
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just myself, And it's not Kyler Wimsfalt, Karen, Karen wins Fald.
That was a great play. The guy punched the ball out.
That just that just happened. But when you turn the
ball over in those situations, it kills the football team.
But I and I, you know what, I'm for McVay
going for it on fourth down. I really am. I'm
glad he went for it. The play called it suspect.
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But you got you know what you need You need
to You need a big bruiser back. You need a
back that you need to have even it's a full
but you got to have a guy that on the
one yard line you know, can get that one yard
that you need. You got to have that, or you
need to work on the toush push like everybody like
like Philadelphia's doing. I mean, you cannot lose a football
game like that. Uh then the last two think about
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the one. But in Philly you get too field goals blocked,
not want and any running back for a touchdown. So
it's frustrating. You know, the team is still a good
football team. But I'm gonna tell you what, I see
some weaknesses in the secondary. Man. I mean they were making,
uh they made they made what's what's the coat? What's
the quarterback from from? Uh? Both of us? They made?
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They made Daniel I mean it was it Daniel Jones
from from the coach, now Matt Jones from the Matt
Jones from the coach. They made him look like they
made I don't even know Rob who who's played for
the coach was a great quarterback. Peyton, Johnny and Johnny
U ninetys. That's what I was thinking about. I was
thinking about Johnny, you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I said, they made him look like Johnny with the
big high top shoes exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They made him like Johnny.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And then the lap and the plat flat top right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And then they made the next quarterback what it for?
And then he looked like Joe Montana. I'm like he
killing us. I mean, he had what I'm gonna say,
three hundred yards passing. It's frustrating. I know they'll get
it together. I still, man, I still think that By
is a great coach. I think they have a lot
of talent on that football team. But I still they
have to address some of the secondary issues that they have.
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I mean, they sometimes they get they get penalties, they
get holding penalties and at the wrong time. But you know,
that's that's football. It's the three and two. A lot
of football left. But you know what, I'm gonna tell
you something right now. You notice too, those two games.
You'll go back and you're three playing at the season
goes on, you say, man, we should have won those games,
at least at least one of them. You know, they
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shouldn't wont both of them. But if you look at
both of those football games, the one that they really
should have won, I say, for sure, let's just use
that one. Philly. You can't you can't get you can't,
you can't, you can't get to field goals, not up
to dominated dominate them, win on the road with a
chance to dominate them, and win that one like they
lost it. Yeah, that that hurts, that sting, and you
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do that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's back at the end of the season, if you
have to go on the road to play a playoff game,
you're like that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's the that's the game right there. And then, in
all honesty, they could have lost to the Coats, be honest,
could have lost to the Coats because the coach had
what two touchdowns called back but one well I'm going
to touchdown went the back of the end zone. And
the one that the running back I can't take a
running backs name for for the Coats, Taylor, he had
had a tailor Taylor. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor had a long run.
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But they called it back behold and it was holding.
It really was holding. But you know that three and
two and you know it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, well that's not very optimistic. It is what I know,
SD I know it is. Well what am I supposed
to say? Fred one of them to jump up down
bad games? But look, I still think that they are
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I said that they're a good football team. But you
know what, you know, you man, you have to win
those kinds of at least one of them, you know,
one of them. I mean, you see what happened that
other little team over there. Now we can talk about them. Yeah,
we'll talk about that as a little team. I was
at that game and man, but we'll talk about it. Yeah,
you know what, we'll talk about it next. Ford NFL
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
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Speaker 3 (14:13):
To the Ford NFL Spotlight with the Hall of Famer
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Speaker 2 (14:20):
Let's go talk.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
About the little team now. Chargers lost their second straight
to the Commander second straight. It was the Commanders who
beat them this time. Washington scored twenty seven unanswered points,
twenty seven to ten. So after a sparkling start, the
little Team Eric is coming back down to earth.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, I mean I told you the child's got a
nice team. But nah, you know, you know I feel nothing,
nothing personal nothing, the personal gets the charges. I mean, yeah,
they give up. They said twenty seven unnounced points. I
mean Jalen Dangel really good quarterback. I think one of
the main problems is free First, when they had ten penalties,
they had to think of roughing, the roughing the punter penalty. Uh,
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They're not able to run the football. I mean, I
think Jim harder Ball's calling card. Well, I'm gonna tell
you something. Yeah, running the football is his calling card.
But they can't run it. I mean at the Justin
Herbert he left, he left the team in rushing with
sixty yards between two running backs and they they had
like fifty seven yards. So if you can't run the football,
I mean for a quarterback, I mean I look at
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the charges. You know, they don't have a plethora of weapons.
And their weapon is their quarterback. And what's the receiver?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh they have but konki, they have Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think Keenan Allen. That's why I like Keenan Allen. Mcconki.
I mean he's good, but I mean I don't think.
I don't think McConkie is a number one, number one
receiver anywhere. I mean, I think he's a good receiver. Really.
I think he's clutched at certain times. But if you
get a if you get a good defensive back on him,
he's not gonna be He's not gonna be that that Threa.
But you've got to be able to run the football.
You got to be able to shut them down. You know,
Jay and Daniels had it had a good day against them.
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No turnovers, I mean the Chargers once again, and turn
the football over. You can't turn the football over and
win football games. I mean, and you should win a game.
I mean we did it too. You need to win
a home you need to win at home for sure,
and you lose at home. So I mean, I always
thought the best team in the in the in the
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in the FC West is the Broncos, and I really
believe because of their defense that that defense they got.
I mean, if you start now in Philadelphia, what they
did to Philly. And I'm not a big bow Knicks fan,
but bow Nicks had had a really good football game
that I think at two hundred and forty two yards
but the Charges are still a good opponent, but they've
got to find a way to run the football. If
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they can't run the football, they ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Three weeks ago, we wouldn't have had this conversation. Three
weeks ago, we would have said the Chargers are one
of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Eric, Well, I think they played like they were. They
beat the Chiefs in Kansas, and I mean on the
road on the or wherever they're in London or wherever
they were what they played them. But the chieftain that
they didn't have all their weapons and they still don't
have all their weapons. So you know, you look at
a team that has everything clicking like you got. You know,
you're starting receiver, you're starting quarterback, you're starting running back,
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starting offensive line. And if you beat that team, then
I said, okay, then you beat a good football team,
you know, losing to to the Commanders. The Commanders they
made it to the playoff on the first round second
und playoffs last year. That said, that's a good football team.
And you bring Jaydon Daniels black who's been out now
you've got a whole different makeup. And then they had
I think one hundred and eleven yards rushing out of
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one running back. So they were able to run the football.
And that just goes to show when you can run
the football, it gives a quarterback so much more lead
where you can do so many more things. Right now,
you know that it gives you so many more more things.
Play action, Fred is really play action. If you run
the football and you're picking up two point three yards
of a carry and you ain't, you ain't having no
big plays they run it, not any play action, then
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this ain't no run. You know, you know they're faking it.
So I just feel like the Chargers they're going backwards
right now. Hopefully they can they can get it together.
I want to see him win, I really do. I'm
not I'm not a charge of hater, not by no means,
but you know, you gotta you gotta win. You gotta
win these games at home. And then it's not it's
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not like this is a conference game. It's not like
they played the Broncos, they played the Raiders or something
like that. You know, this is a this is this
is a team that's not not even conference and this
is the NFC team. But you still want to win. It.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and they're a big play guy, Quentin Johnston. I
mean that that that's their their go to guy. The
other couple of guys you mentioned mccaukey and and uh
Keenan Allen, you know, they're they're more the possession guys
that you know, they're not going to really get the
home run. And it feels like they they lack that
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that explosive player or players on that team that can
guild and get you a home run from time to time,
which are big chunks of yards what they need. It
feels like the Chargers on a regular basis have to
really have to execute a ten play twelve play drive
in order to score, and that's difficult in the NFL
most defensive coordinated to tell you, yeah, let's make them
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drive the length of the field to beat us. Let's
make them utilize and be and execute for ten plays
in order to score, not give up one big play
and then they're in the end zone. But to what
you guys are both mentioning, yes, Jim Harball them for
Jim Harpaull ever since he was you know, even going
back to San Diego and then certainly at Stanford and
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then at Michigan, and even with the forty nine Ers
was playing physical football and running the football on offense
and being able to stop the run on defense, but
being a physical team. And Sunday the Commanders were the
more physical team by far. They basically lined up, told
you what they were going to do, and ran the
ball down the Charger's throat. Sometimes they came in and
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lined up Eric and I hadn't seen this at a
regular basis except for some short ardige situations, but I
were oftentimes that the Commanders lined it up with six
offensive linemen tight ends, you know, sixth offensive linemen, two
tight ends, and they telling you we're gonna run the
ball here, and they did it several times and had
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some big plays on it. But yeah, yeah, the one
guy ran for one hundred and eleven yards on him
and scored a couple of touchdowns. But it felt early
on like the Chargers were in control of that game.
And then at some point it flipped. And I think
it was when Quentin Johnson had that big fumble after
a catch. It was a big play, fumbled it, and
from that point on it was all Commanders. And I
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will also say man I was I was at the
game and it It's like we said about the Charges
two years ago, it felt like almost the Commander's home game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was gonna ask I was gonna ask you that.
I was gonna say, Okay, now you're talking about it
the base, I'm gonna say, the Washington Redskins, Yes, I
called him. You know they come. They got more fans
from Washington, yes, than they do right here in La
and San Diego, plus in LA for the charge. That's
what I'm talking about, Fred, That's why I come in
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a nice little team. They are good. They are a
good football team. They are They're not a bad football team.
But man, I'm telling you, as a rightn you notice it.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
As a player, don't you want your man? You want
you like it when your fans are cheering for you.
That makes you like, yeah, we got our fans. Were
at home.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We at home.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah at We're at home. You at home and you're
hearing go Charger, Yeah, go go command. Yeah come man,
like waiting Ante hold up that dog? That was I
gotta say. Just like when we played the freaking forty
nine ers, I mean it was more forty nine ers.
It seems more ram fans at this time. But still
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I got to give it to them forty nine ers.
It was more of them there than it was.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I feel, yeah, like with with the with the Rams,
it's really only the forty nine has come in and
really yeah kind of dominate the stadium. Everything else is
Ram Rams will dominate in eight team right whereas the Chargers,
I mean, Kansas City comes in, it's a sea of
red and it's all Kansas City. Even the Broncos come
in with a lot of fans. But last Sunday it
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was that Commander maroon that they had. It was all
over the stadium and they were cheering just as louder,
louder than those Charger fans. And you know, and you know,
if you've been there, you know the PA guy hype
Man is tried everything he can gythings.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Too, but it was not was not working.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't know what. I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I don't know what Charger team there is beyond find out.
Let's talk about what Raider team it is.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Oh Man, trouble, we got in trouble, oh Man, good good,
gracial life. They are in deep deep.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
For first off, I know they put a lot of
stock and everybody was fired up. We talked to Vinnie
every single week about Geno smith Man.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But he is playing.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He's I think he's the worst rated quarterback in the
league right now. And it has been ugly. I mean,
I don't know, I he it's like he went back
to when he started with the Jets. Is how bad
he's He's playing horrible, horrible football right now and really
giving him no chance to win. And and you know,
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the strength of them, I think they're last and obviously
a lot of categories, but one of the things that
one of their strengths was rushing the passer and their
defense and getting sacks. I don't think they've I think
they're lasting and pressures and lasting sacks as well on
that defensive side.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Pete Pete Carroll's guy, and you would.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And uh now I can't remember the coordinator just came
from used to be a Oregon head coach now used
to eli offensively that they would have it, you know,
somewhat clicking, and they just cannot get it going offensively.
It's been ugly for the Raiders and I don't I
don't see the light at the end of the tunnel
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for them anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, first of all, I'm not. I'm not a big
Chip Kelly fan anyway. I think why women and women
remember when he went to Philly, he destroyed that football team.
I mean really, no, no, no, when he took them.
Remember when Remember when he took that dismantling that football
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team got rid of Shady, that just got rid of
pretty much everybody you know. And and I mean, and
I don't know why. I mean, it was almost like
like an ego thing. And then they fired and fired
him the next year. But I mean, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not a fan of his. Pete Carrell I kept
telling y'all, I like Pete Care, But Pete Care's old.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Man, but he's not going out and playing.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm just saying, I'm just seventy years old. That's like
we want to play running back. He got a sixty
year running back out of there. He's gonna run for
sixteen hundred yards, right, you know the Raiders. Man. I'm
telling you, boy, I feel bad for him. I mean,
like you said, Geno smith Man, a quarterback, he throws
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two or three picks a game. Yeah through two last
week through two the week before. I want to see
two or three the week before that, and right the defense,
because I always thought that said raiders got to be
the only thing they got. They got some defense. But
right now, man, the defense, I just think the defense
is on the field too long. They the offense can't
sustain any any any any drives or you know, of
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any substance to keep them on the sideline to give
them that rest. I mean, and even asking genty a
little running back. Okay, he had sixty seven yards. He's
kind of coming along. But you know, it's just and
when your quarterback is throwing two picks a game, you
got no pride, you got no chance. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What's what's the trouble about the whole thing is that
when they acquired Geno Smith, you sat back and thought,
all right, these guys have a legit quarterback now, because
over the past couple of years, you know, it was
a grab bag of who was going to play, and
whoever it was wasn't going to be very good. But
then you've got a bonafide starting NFL quarterback. He came
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from Seattle where he did perform well. So all right,
now you've got your guy, let's go for it. And
then this there's your frustration. I think you're missing a quarterback.
You got one, and now he turns into the ones
that were there before him. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You know. One thing is, like I said, Chip Kelly,
you know this is his offense, you know, and a
lot of it goes to can this quarterback run this offense?
Does this offense fit him? And it seems like this
offense does not fit Geno Smith. That's what it comes
down to. I mean, it's just it's not I mean,
you know you can. You can. You can be a
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great quarterback or great running back on another football team
and the and the offense doesn't fit you. It's like
when I went from the from the Rams or the Coats. Okay,
you know what they did, Fred, They pretty much put
in the offense that I like. We had an offense
already in place, but they switched it. They they made
they made plays at Ila. Okay, forty six and forty
six didn't have that at first, didn't have those plays in.
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I don't know if they I don't know if coaches
do that for players now. But that's what I wanted.
I needed that because those are the kind of plays
I like. But when you look at this because I mean,
you know, he played well last year, he looked like
a different person. This year, they gotta take a totally different,
like a comeleon. Yeah, comedian, comedian quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So if you went for the Raiders and a lot
of people in La do and you see this happening,
I know one fan, it's like, all right, it's already over.
I mean, that's how bad they feel that, like, all right,
the season's over. I they hired Pete Carroll, they're changing
the culture, they got a quarterback, and they still can't win.
And as a matter of fact, every game they'll look worse.
(28:05):
That's even a bigger problem. It's not like, oh man,
that one just got a way. No, they actually look
worse every game. I don't know what you do there?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Okay, this is well what do you do? I mean,
fred riding And you know from experience when when you
won in four, it's usually one and full with how
the Raiders are you digging out of a deep hole?
I mean, every you need to win every game. You can't.
You really can't afford a loss right now. The most
you can afford maybe we can afford maybe three losses,
maybe three maybe maybe maybe even four. But after that,
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you can't lose them. We know that's not gonna happen.
It's impossible. I mean I have to say it's impossible.
But you know, it's got to be disappointing for the
Raider fans because I mean, I want to see the
Raiders win. I mean, I played one here for the
reason I like that, I like the organization. I want
to see him win. But to be honest with you, fred,
I just said it to a Raider fan today. Now
I might as well start getting ready for next year.
There you go, nicepan, I I mean, do you think
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they're gonna make the playoffs? Do you think do you
think they're gonna win nine games?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I just you know, you just sometimes just have to
be honest about it. I mean, it is what it is,
and it's just yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
And where and where do you Where do you start?
Where do you start regrouving? You know, you're one and four,
you're playing horrible. You've got you know, you at least
thought you had your quarterback for the next you know,
four to five years. He locked him up, signed him
to a big deal, and he's playing terrible?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Are you you know?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
At this point one and four.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
As you mentioned Eric, you start thinking about next year,
how do I get ready for next year?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Or are you trying to salvage this year?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And if you are thinking next year, do you start
thinking about replacing the quarterback or you let him play
it out. So it's a hard decision this early in
the season where it feels like you've got no chance
number one to make the playoffs or even have a
pretty good and do you really throw in the towel
and said, okay, we're going with a quarterback change, you know,
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and you got a guy that you're making thirty million
dollars sitting on the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's a that's a that's a tough decision to make.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
If you're really you know it, and it's you know,
as bad as he's playing, it's not only just Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's both sides of the ball are playing bad.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So if it was just him and they came down
and they had three or four of those games were
winnable games, and and it came down to Geno Smith
throwing an interception versus a touchdown, and he threw a
pick or made bad decisions in all three of those situations,
and you're like, yeah, we got to make a change
to there. But if it's the whole team, like it
feels like it is for the Raiders, I don't think
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you can change quarterbacks at this point. But but man,
it's it's it's definitely bleak because I don't think changing
quarterbacks are going to really help the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Rodney, Rodney, they're not sitting him. No, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They can't sit. I mean, they got they got they
got the Titans next week, then they got the chief
the week after that. I mean, they got a chance
and maybe think they maybe could beat the Titans. Maybe
they ain't gonna beat the Chiefs. I mean, I don't
think I like to see him beat the Chiefs, but
chances are they won't. So then they got they got
to buy Uh, they play the Chiefs at home. I
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can think they plan at home.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well, Eric, looks, you guys both know Mark Davis.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right, they're plant Kansas City, They're planet Kansas City. Yes,
thank you. That has trouble in case. All right? So
I like Mark Davis. Yeah, I like Mark. I like
Mark Davis.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, Rodney, you like Mark.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, I like Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think universally most people like Mark is that fair
to say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Very a very likable, likable owner. Yeah, yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He really. I mean, I don't know how we are
to everybody on the planet, but we can only react
by how people react to us and our friends. Mark
Davis is a good guy, nice guy. He cannot get
a break.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I know, I feel I think you are bad for him.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He just can't.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yep, ye right. Mark Davis the kind of guy that
you could You could walk up to him at a
bar or a store and say, Hi, I'm a big
Raider fan. I just want to say thing he would be.
He would he would interact with you like like he's
known you. That's the that's the kind that's the kind
of guy Mark Davis is. You know you're not You're
not gonna have security say step stay, step back to
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get to get back.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, you know you should feel sorry for him, though, Fred,
I don't know if you can feel sorry for him.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm not saying I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I want to win. I get it, Fred, have some success.
That's what I wanted to have to man can't catch a.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Break, and he can't. I mean, they hire John Gruden
to try to put that thing together and then that happens.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They shouldn't have gas you have kept John.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I wonder how that lawsuit is gonna play out.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
First ball you're talking about, he's talking about the Mars
Smith and he's right with his big lip ass. I'm
with him with that lying. I mean, I gotta say
friends like this, that's like somebody saying you ball headed.
Every Oh really, man, I'm gonna sue you. I'm just
handfall here. I'm ball as hell. Yeah, I'm all headed.
He got big ass lips. He wasn't lying, all right?
(33:13):
Well is he lying? Was he telling a lie? Riding it?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Come on, I'm leaving riding alone? Grat Is he telling
a lie? It was just a lot more to that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Than But you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying to that, Like I said, I'm a lot.
I don't care for him. So anyway, it wasn't there,
you know the crooked.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, I think what really got him was when he
went after the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, yeah, that's god that that don't help you. That
was and I didn't say that. Now. That's how I
talked to When you're talking about Damors Smith, we talked
about him. What he said was the truth, said them
big super coolers.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
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Speaker 3 (34:27):
Come on, Welcome back to Ford NFL spot Light with
the Hall of Famer Red Rogan, Rodney Pete on a.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Beautiful Tuesday Tuesday right now. Yeah, apointed. I'm disappointed in you, brother,
what's that? You know what? I'm disappointed? You didn't you know?
You know how demorrisms is. I know how he is.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of his either, but I'm
We were talking about Bruden in the lawsuit and.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Were talking about That's what I definitely left. That's when
I left that. I'm the grouten things.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Groten showed a whole different side of Gruden.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Uh yeah, but but but the Mars Smith, you know,
you know, you know how he is.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Oh, I know that, and you never liked him from
the beginning. He just was really guy that was really
back into players like he should.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Have never never anyway, but yeah, okay, Well now we're
on the same page.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Okay, all right, Uh
so here's the situation. How would you handle it? Young
couple in India?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
All right, wait a minute, Fred, you say India? Yes, okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Is that troubling? How are you troubled by the country
of India.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's a whole world away. But okay, no problem go here.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, no, no, no, no, Why don't you India before?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
First of all, I've never been to India. I've always
went to go to India. Not no problem with India.
I'm thinking, you know, that's a long ways away on me.
But okay, let's let's let's see what's jumping off in India.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Then all right, here's the wasn't our segment in news
from India?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
That's what I'm trying to say. People like, yeah, you
put the real emphasis on Indian. Okay, go ahead, Well
this could apply anywhere. It just happened in India, Okay, Okay,
I mean for the purposes of the two of you, Eric,
just just put this this couple in Calabasis.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, cool, say that in the first place, then Fred,
that would go for it. They could be in Palm Spring,
would you?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
They could be well, no, they'd be too young, okay, okay, No,
these people would be young here. If they were here
and they were young, they'd be ninety seven years old.
So that would give it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We'll give us the story for it, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Here it is, young couple gets married, very excited, they're
in love. Each of them at the time of their
marriage has a pet, so they bring the pet into
the marriage. I don't know if the pets are in
the marital bed or what, but the pets are in
the house.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What kind of pit?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Okay? A dog and a cat?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, that's cool, that's normal, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So there's a problem. The dog and the cat are
not getting along. They cannot they cannot coexist.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I'm shocked a dog and a cat don't get along.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
First of all, there are some dogs and cats that
get along, and I'm sure people they would tell.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Those stories, okay, most of them. The okay, go ahead.
They're like a cat and the coyote getting along.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I do not like coyote. I want that on the record.
I'm not a fan of the coyote anyway, okidd So
the dog and the cat aren't getting along. They try
as they might to get them to coexist, but they can't.
So what does this couple do?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Don't teraminate divorced over a cat, cat a dog?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I know?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
All right, So you think they divorced or you're wondering, Rodney,
what do you think they did?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I have no idea what they did, but I'm with
d hopefully they they didn't divorce because the cat and
the dog didn't get a left, didn't get along.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But this is what I would say. The I'm gonna
get to go hit nothink Indian man that they got
a lot of money. That's what you do. We go
get two different houses, right, you get two different houses.
We let the cat and the dog stay there sometimes
where we sleep over here, or we just sleeping different
We put we sleep in one room, she sleep one room,
we sleep another in the same house and make it work.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, So those are the options. Yeah, okay, well they
didn't take that option. Okay, they divorced. I told you,
that's what I said. I knew it. They couldn't get along,
so they divorced because we know who had the cat?
Who had the dog? Did the man have the cat
and the woman had the dog? The husband had the dog?
(38:39):
And yeah, the wife said her husband's dog harassed and
even attacked her cat repeatedly.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I'm shocked. That's what dogs do to cats. Yeah, happen.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Did they never have those animals together while they were dating?
They did, They did. They tried to work for it.
But there was another issue that has just come to
light that the woman's cat used to hover above the
man's fish tank, so it was like the cat was
gonna jump in and attack the fish.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
M M, well, I say this much your fair. They
didn't love each other anyway. You know there was no love.
I ain't no love. You if you divorce over some animals,
you don't love each other, you know, this is this
is sometimes this is for convenience. You know, I just
don't buy that there they went in love. I just
know you wouldn't divorce if I if I if I had,
if I was in love. I just love think about it.
(39:34):
Let me ask you, was you and your wife this
divorce over you gotta think you gotta think you got
like you gotta go way back for it when you
were young and really love, really in love. I'm sure
you still love your wife, But I mean, like, baby,
I just love you, you know, but that I'm sorry, Babby,
I just love everything. I can't I can't imagine. I
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ain't waking up in the morning to you. Was you
divorced over a month and a cat with j all?
Divorced over there? Think about that? That's that sounds ridiculous,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You would try to figure out a way where they
could come.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Now, that's not that's not what I asked you. That's
not that's it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it doesn't sounds ridiculous? Yes, yes,
and no, that's yes and no question. I would not
thank you, right, That's what I said. They wasn't and
they weren't in love, right? Did they think about that? Yeah?
Come on, man, animal, No, No, I'll give it to
both of them. You're really absolutely both of them, both
(40:32):
of them. Yeah, and make it fair. Okay, you give
me your dog get it? My cat and we and
then we get.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
When we together, find the animal that works.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
For both of us.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
In India or elephant, right, get an elephant. That's what
you should do. Go out and get an elephant. That's
exactly you know why.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You know why friends, you gotta worr about it because
he won't be able to eve in the bed long.
It's gonna be too big. So you know, we the elephant,
two bigs even the big just got too big the bed.
It's just me and you.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
But that's not like anything or you know anything when
you when you get together with someone and we gonna
you know, you both got a place. You are we
gonna live in your place in my place? You know,
you figure out whoevers a better place, and you decide
are we gonna keep that couch? Are we gonna keep
that bed? And we're gonna keep this and keep that.
You work out a compromise. But that should have been
done before they got married.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's that's yeah. Yeah, how let me ask you see
if you know this, how old were they? That's that's
the best quest.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They said young. I don't know young, okay, like thirteen,
that's too young to get married yet me do you
guys let your animals sleep in bed with you.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Hell no, I've been absolutely not. First of all, I
call all dogs months. I don't care if it's yeah,
we know the pedigree.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We've been to your house.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I got this little money here. This little money is
under under this desk right now. This munth follows me
around everywhere. There ain't meant no dogs, even the best discussion.
I'm sorry. I don't put no dog in the bed.
I mean nothing. A gets people who love the dogs,
nothing against him. I'm nothing. I'm not gonna have no
dog licking me in my face, licking me in my mouth.
I don't work with me because the dog be licking
his his privates, And I'm not trying to have no dog.
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He's looking at butt, no dog but the dog. But
to your dog, thinking of a dog, you see your
dog is loocking your butt. No, fred I did not
say the dog is licking my butt. I was.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I didn't. I'm sorry. Come on, come on, you dog.
You have Rodney hot the dog sleeping bed. Your dog's
are big. Yeah, I got big dogs.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I got one of them that does love to get
up on the bed and sleep in the bed. But
certainly if I'm not, she not there. The dog doesn't sleep,
and dog's got his own beautiful bed. But oftentimes, yeah, unfortunately,
the dog will get up on the bed and will
it will sleep. Don't get on my side, but it
will sleep and make her uncomfortable. But you know, I
don't have a problem getting up, getting up and off
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and up and off and up and off. At some
point you're just like, damn, hell with it.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So he's go ahead. So the dog what the dog
got fleas and fleees in the bed.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Now you gotta clean dogs not gonna have fleas. Eric,
the dog never goes outside.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You gotta watch them. That's like said, the dog ain't
got firm. Come on, Freddie's some ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
The dog doesn't have flees. I bet you more people
let their animals sleep in bed with them than you think.
If we took a straw poll, what percentage would you
say do and don't?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I would probably say about seventy seventy percent of people
pipped that their dogs sleep for maybe even more because
people the people love dogs when they love people, I
would tell you my dog's true. I had a dog
I used to have. You know, I actually have rocks
big rocks. So I had this my first rod wild.
This dog wanted to jump in the bed, you know,
because he sleep on the floor sleep. He slept in
the room next to the bed. And this dog was
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kind of like kind of hard hitted, you know. I
could tell it's kind of hard hitded. So the dog
jumps in the bed. The dog jumps in the bed,
and I went to grassy, hey, get out this bed.
You know what he does, red you know the dog, dude,
what he growls at me? I was I was twenty four.
It was twenty four years Oldmember, I had to to
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twenty four. You know what I did? Fred rout back? No,
I got my pistol. Oh and when I pulled the
pistol out, he went he It was like he knew.
He was like, oh okay, didn't he get out? He
eased off the bed real slow. I ain't even have
to cock it. I grabbed the pistol. Pistol on your dog, man,
I was gonna kill that dog. Dog gonna bite me.
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That dog. When he saw that gun, he was like, okay,
then let me get out the bed. Real he got out,
real real slow, like like like I don't want to
make a quick move or nothing.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
He walked.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I said, get to us outside.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
He walked.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
How many people? I'm curious and if you want to call,
talk a little bit about it, because this is very
good topic. How many people are they're animals to sleep
in bed with them. Are you one of the people?
If you are, why, if you're not white? And if
you don't want to talk about how don't. We'll move
on eight six, six nine, eight seven, two five seventy.
The Ford NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. Alright, let's
(45:11):
see what you have to say next.
All right, we continue on. Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete, and ed.
Eric Dickerson joins the show, and Eric, good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good afternoon, Fred, Good afternoon, Dodger fans. I know everybody's happy.
I'm happy. I got a big smile on my face,
and you know, hope we can close this thing out tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
When is the first time you've ever said on this show, Fred,
good afternoon to you, and good afternoon Dodger fans.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't think I've ever said that. I'm I'm in
a very gleeful mood, you know, after the dog because
I'm gonna tell you, man, Fred, I was worried about
about them going back to Philly playing. I mean, you know,
Philly has a real good baseball team. And I'm gonna
say this much here. I'm not a baseball connoiseur. I
know more about the Dodgers than I've ever known about
(00:46):
baseball ever. I mean, I know the Dodgers and pretty
much their players, but other teams I really don't know
that much about. But I do know watching Philly and
watching the highlights on them and Wathington play this season,
they had a good baseball team and they go back
there and beat them two games. I just hoping. I said,
if we could win one and come back home and
close it out, I think have been great. But to
win two is big. And I got to say one
(01:07):
more thing too, just to show you how fans are,
especially Philly fans man the football, the baseball. A friend
of mine was back there, uh to what to watch
the game and said that the fans were saying that
o'tany he's a bum. He's a bum. He's just a bum.
I'm like, now, come on, man, let's be for real.
(01:28):
I mean, if O'tana was on your team, you would
be jumping around with if they told him give you
some pump pumps and a dress they put them on.
I mean, it's just amazing how these fans are, how
they degrade player. You know what, if if a player
is a great player and he plays for another team,
no problem. But Philadelphia, man, they if Jesus came to Philly,
(01:49):
they'd hate Jesus, to be honest with you, that's just
how they fans are. But I'm glad to see the
Dodgers win, and I'm glad to see him win in
that fashion. You know, like what I always tell you ridingy.
If this would have happened, man, we had him were
the one. But that's what say that? Who says that that?
Losers always say that, and Philly, that's what losers says.
We have, We almost have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We almost had.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Only this would have happened, if only that, only that
would have happened. You know, if Mookie Best wouldn't have
got got him out the third basis months he wouldn't
through that that that through it over, Tim made him
get out of the third base, you might have had
a month on third base, you know. But I got
to say this much here? What's the picture for? For
the uh for? Is it the Ross Brown? He can
(02:39):
throw it? Man, I mean he can, he can. He's
he's a good picture and make I said, I don't
know a lot about Philly, but he's a good piece
of good picture. He's young, is it? He looked like
he he could. He he could throw it. Thank God
we got blakes. Now I'm saying I'll say that, but
you know, I feel bad for I feel bad for trying.
I really do. I feel bad for him because you know,
(03:02):
if the Dodgers would have lost that baseball game, it
would have been ugly I mean really ugly. You know
right now, you notice as well as I do. You know,
when you're going through something, you know you're not playing well.
I mean even like I must use it as an example. Okay,
they did win the football game, but trust me, Fred,
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he is frustrated. He didn't sleep well last night. Because
when you when you play, when you play a game
and you don't play well, even sometimes when you play good,
you still dream about you dream about the football game,
the baseball game. But when you play a game that
you love and you don't play well and you almost
sometimes you almost have your team. And I'm not saying
you blame it on him to lose, man, it is
like it's almost like having PTSD because you you worry
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for the next time. You know, if they put me
in the next time, what's going to happen? I mean,
you know, am I going to be that guy that
that people are going to be, you know, booing and
talk about why you're bringing them in? I really I
really feel bad for him because he was he was
a great pitchy. But all of a sudden, man, he's
got this confidence, right, you know, it's all about the
it's all it's all about your confidence. And that's what
it comes down to any sport, not just baseball football.
(04:07):
It's about your confidence. I mean, and right now you
can see that he just does not have the confidence.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Once you have the the fielding version of the yips.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I guess you got the he got the yips.
I mean, he got he got the he got to
oh my gods.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, you can't always put your finger on it. Like everybody, right,
what's wrong withty? What's wrong witting?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And you a lot of times, most times in that
situation where a guy has been really good and all
of a sudden, it's like like you said, Eric, in
any sport, a guy all of a sudden in basketball
can't hit a free throw, and or or in football
he fumbles, or or quarterback is off and can't can't
hit the you know, the right target, and it's always
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high with the ball for some whatever reason. And then
and with pitching and hitting, you know, Mookie Betts went
through that. Remember all the frustrating he went through, and
and everybody asking him, every Mookie, what are you doing
to fix this?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
How do you fix this?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Can you tell us what's happening? And he kept saying,
I don't know. I'm spending hours and hours in the cage,
I'm hitting, I'm watching videotape. I'm doing everything I can.
But right now, I just I don't know why I'm
not hitting. And I'm sure the same thing is for
trying it is. I am doing everything I can to
(05:23):
figure out why I'm not hitting my spots, why certain
things are not going the right way, and I just
can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sometimes you chalk it up to it's just the Camra
of sports.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's it. It's just a but it's just a bad
year sometimes. I mean, you can come in and feel great, like, man,
I feel great. I think I'm gonna have a really
good year. And it could start off great or it
could start off horrible. But at some point when you
when you when it's going bad, it starts going bad,
not just you know physically, your your physical play, it
starts going bad and mentally. And I'm telling you, fred Man,
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and I'm telling you I know from experience. I guarant
he takes his home with it, he takes it home
and it just played over and over in your mind,
like what am I doing wrong? It's killing me. I
give you just just a quick example, this Hays another
baseball's football. Somebody sent me some highlights on some highlights
on myself the other day, and you know how all
my runs and stuff, and it showed that game when
we played the Washington Redskins. I've talked about this game before.
(06:19):
We lost this game seventeen to nine. We had seven turnovers,
three of them were my turnovers. Still to this day, Fred,
that bothers me. It bothers me. Just I'm like when
I'm like, oh my god, I mean, now, imagine playing
a game like this or World Series game and just
say you get the winning home run to hit off you.
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Fifty years later, it would still haunt you. And like
I said, you know, and I say, this has been
after that was earnestly. It was nineteen it was nineteen
eighty six when it's happened. It's been forty years, Fred,
And I've never forgotten. It still bugs me when I
see those highlights. I'm like, that was my worst game
as a pro ever, and I've never forgotten it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
When you think back to that game, do you remember
what happened on each fumble?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Pretty much? I mean, strip one of them I was running,
it just literally just fell just fell out of we
we on the out down by the gold We like
on the twenty yard line. I make a cut in
the I go one way and the ball goes the
other way, and you're like, what the hell man, I mean,
it's frustrating. And then you then all of a sudden,
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you get in your mind riding just like throwing interceptions.
If you throw, if you throw a bad interception, even
if you want to okay, he picked it off, and
you throw anohing like oh now now, oh you throw
when that comes close, like oh my god, please not
another one, not another one.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's with your mind and all.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Instead of instead of anticipating the throw, you're like extra
cautious and you wait and you delay and you're late
with the throw and it's another interception, you know, because
now you start thinking about it so much, and it's
it becomes a mental gymnastics of you know, do I
trust who I've always been or trust this terrible moment
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that I'm going through right now.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And it's difficult. It's difficult. I really feel bad for
him because you know, I guess I think anybody has
played any kind of sports at any level. You know,
it could be my big big pony league, could be
the little league, it could be uh you know, pick
up football and be seventh grade football. When you when
you're going through it, it's just it's just it's just
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it bothers you. It really it really bought, especially at
this level because it's the big leagues. You know, they
expect you to be perfect, and no one's perfect all
the time. But you know, you look at you look
at a guy like Snail, Who's who's who's doing it?
I mean, and then you know, then you got to
bring in, you bring it was it sazaki you bring
him in to finish it off. But you know, you
hope that you can depend on triton. But right now,
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I mean, I hate you can't. You just can't. And
then that that's a that's that's a that's a bad feeling.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Okay, well the Rams are going through a bit of
a bad feeling now too.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Eric, Oh my god, I don't even give me talking
about that, fred Man, don't get me talking about that.
Don't get me talking about that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
We talked about it here. We have to do we
have to Yes, we do it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
When I said because because first of all, I just
hate the forty nine ers, man, I hate them like
I hate University of Texas that fans are so I
got these Texans from some of these forty nine things
we did. I said, excuse my mother, you don't even play,
You're just a fan. I said, what's your number? You
ain't got a number? You know we did that, We
did this. Man, I what Fred you know? I said,
(09:36):
just myself, And it's not Kyler Wimsfalt, Karen, Karen wins Fald.
That was a great play. The guy punched the ball out.
That just that just happened. But when you turn the
ball over in those situations, it kills the football team.
But I and I, you know what, I'm for McVay
going for it on fourth down. I really am. I'm
glad he went for it. The play called it suspect.
(09:58):
But you got you know what you need You need
to You need a big bruiser back. You need a
back that you need to have even it's a full
but you got to have a guy that on the
one yard line you know, can get that one yard
that you need. You got to have that, or you
need to work on the toush push like everybody like
like Philadelphia's doing. I mean, you cannot lose a football
game like that. Uh then the last two think about
(10:20):
the one. But in Philly you get too field goals blocked,
not want and any running back for a touchdown. So
it's frustrating. You know, the team is still a good
football team. But I'm gonna tell you what, I see
some weaknesses in the secondary. Man. I mean they were making,
uh they made they made what's what's the coat? What's
the quarterback from from? Uh? Both of us? They made?
(10:41):
They made Daniel I mean it was it Daniel Jones
from from the coach, now Matt Jones from the Matt
Jones from the coach. They made him look like they
made I don't even know Rob who who's played for
the coach was a great quarterback. Peyton, Johnny and Johnny
U ninetys. That's what I was thinking about. I was
thinking about Johnny, you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I said, they made him look like Johnny with the
big high top shoes exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They made him like Johnny.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And then the lap and the plat flat top right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And then they made the next quarterback what it for?
And then he looked like Joe Montana. I'm like he
killing us. I mean, he had what I'm gonna say,
three hundred yards passing. It's frustrating. I know they'll get
it together. I still, man, I still think that By
is a great coach. I think they have a lot
of talent on that football team. But I still they
have to address some of the secondary issues that they have.
(11:33):
I mean, they sometimes they get they get penalties, they
get holding penalties and at the wrong time. But you know,
that's that's football. It's the three and two. A lot
of football left. But you know what, I'm gonna tell
you something right now. You notice too, those two games.
You'll go back and you're three playing at the season
goes on, you say, man, we should have won those games,
at least at least one of them. You know, they
(11:53):
shouldn't wont both of them. But if you look at
both of those football games, the one that they really
should have won, I say, for sure, let's just use
that one. Philly. You can't you can't get you can't,
you can't, you can't get to field goals, not up
to dominated dominate them, win on the road with a
chance to dominate them, and win that one like they
lost it. Yeah, that that hurts, that sting, and you
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do that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's back at the end of the season, if you
have to go on the road to play a playoff game,
you're like that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's the that's the game right there. And then, in
all honesty, they could have lost to the Coats, be honest,
could have lost to the Coats because the coach had
what two touchdowns called back but one well I'm going
to touchdown went the back of the end zone. And
the one that the running back I can't take a
running backs name for for the Coats, Taylor, he had
had a tailor Taylor. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor had a long run.
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But they called it back behold and it was holding.
It really was holding. But you know that three and
two and you know it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, well that's not very optimistic. It is what I know,
SD I know it is. Well what am I supposed
to say? Fred one of them to jump up down
bad games? But look, I still think that they are
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I said that they're a good football team. But you
know what, you know, you man, you have to win
those kinds of at least one of them, you know,
one of them. I mean, you see what happened that
other little team over there. Now we can talk about them. Yeah,
we'll talk about that as a little team. I was
at that game and man, but we'll talk about it. Yeah,
you know what, we'll talk about it next. Ford NFL
(13:34):
Spotlight is presented by Ford. We'll talk about that, that
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Speaker 3 (14:13):
To the Ford NFL Spotlight with the Hall of Famer
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Speaker 2 (14:20):
Let's go talk.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
About the little team now. Chargers lost their second straight
to the Commander second straight. It was the Commanders who
beat them this time. Washington scored twenty seven unanswered points,
twenty seven to ten. So after a sparkling start, the
little Team Eric is coming back down to earth.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, I mean I told you the child's got a
nice team. But nah, you know, you know I feel nothing,
nothing personal nothing, the personal gets the charges. I mean, yeah,
they give up. They said twenty seven unnounced points. I
mean Jalen Dangel really good quarterback. I think one of
the main problems is free First, when they had ten penalties,
they had to think of roughing, the roughing the punter penalty. Uh,
(15:04):
They're not able to run the football. I mean, I
think Jim harder Ball's calling card. Well, I'm gonna tell
you something. Yeah, running the football is his calling card.
But they can't run it. I mean at the Justin
Herbert he left, he left the team in rushing with
sixty yards between two running backs and they they had
like fifty seven yards. So if you can't run the football,
I mean for a quarterback, I mean I look at
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the charges. You know, they don't have a plethora of weapons.
And their weapon is their quarterback. And what's the receiver?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh they have but konki, they have Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think Keenan Allen. That's why I like Keenan Allen. Mcconki.
I mean he's good, but I mean I don't think.
I don't think McConkie is a number one, number one
receiver anywhere. I mean, I think he's a good receiver. Really.
I think he's clutched at certain times. But if you
get a if you get a good defensive back on him,
he's not gonna be He's not gonna be that that Threa.
But you've got to be able to run the football.
You got to be able to shut them down. You know,
Jay and Daniels had it had a good day against them.
(16:01):
No turnovers, I mean the Chargers once again, and turn
the football over. You can't turn the football over and
win football games. I mean, and you should win a game.
I mean we did it too. You need to win
a home you need to win at home for sure,
and you lose at home. So I mean, I always
thought the best team in the in the in the
(16:23):
in the FC West is the Broncos, and I really
believe because of their defense that that defense they got.
I mean, if you start now in Philadelphia, what they
did to Philly. And I'm not a big bow Knicks fan,
but bow Nicks had had a really good football game
that I think at two hundred and forty two yards
but the Charges are still a good opponent, but they've
got to find a way to run the football. If
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they can't run the football, they ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Three weeks ago, we wouldn't have had this conversation. Three
weeks ago, we would have said the Chargers are one
of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Eric, Well, I think they played like they were. They
beat the Chiefs in Kansas, and I mean on the
road on the or wherever they're in London or wherever
they were what they played them. But the chieftain that
they didn't have all their weapons and they still don't
have all their weapons. So you know, you look at
a team that has everything clicking like you got. You know,
you're starting receiver, you're starting quarterback, you're starting running back,
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starting offensive line. And if you beat that team, then
I said, okay, then you beat a good football team,
you know, losing to to the Commanders. The Commanders they
made it to the playoff on the first round second
und playoffs last year. That said, that's a good football team.
And you bring Jaydon Daniels black who's been out now
you've got a whole different makeup. And then they had
I think one hundred and eleven yards rushing out of
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one running back. So they were able to run the football.
And that just goes to show when you can run
the football, it gives a quarterback so much more lead
where you can do so many more things. Right now,
you know that it gives you so many more more things.
Play action, Fred is really play action. If you run
the football and you're picking up two point three yards
of a carry and you ain't, you ain't having no
big plays they run it, not any play action, then
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this ain't no run. You know, you know they're faking it.
So I just feel like the Chargers they're going backwards
right now. Hopefully they can they can get it together.
I want to see him win, I really do. I'm
not I'm not a charge of hater, not by no means,
but you know, you gotta you gotta win. You gotta
win these games at home. And then it's not it's
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not like this is a conference game. It's not like
they played the Broncos, they played the Raiders or something
like that. You know, this is a this is this
is a team that's not not even conference and this
is the NFC team. But you still want to win. It.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and they're a big play guy, Quentin Johnston. I
mean that that that's their their go to guy. The
other couple of guys you mentioned mccaukey and and uh
Keenan Allen, you know, they're they're more the possession guys
that you know, they're not going to really get the
home run. And it feels like they they lack that
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that explosive player or players on that team that can
guild and get you a home run from time to time,
which are big chunks of yards what they need. It
feels like the Chargers on a regular basis have to
really have to execute a ten play twelve play drive
in order to score, and that's difficult in the NFL
most defensive coordinated to tell you, yeah, let's make them
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drive the length of the field to beat us. Let's
make them utilize and be and execute for ten plays
in order to score, not give up one big play
and then they're in the end zone. But to what
you guys are both mentioning, yes, Jim Harball them for
Jim Harpaull ever since he was you know, even going
back to San Diego and then certainly at Stanford and
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then at Michigan, and even with the forty nine Ers
was playing physical football and running the football on offense
and being able to stop the run on defense, but
being a physical team. And Sunday the Commanders were the
more physical team by far. They basically lined up, told
you what they were going to do, and ran the
ball down the Charger's throat. Sometimes they came in and
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lined up Eric and I hadn't seen this at a
regular basis except for some short ardige situations, but I
were oftentimes that the Commanders lined it up with six
offensive linemen tight ends, you know, sixth offensive linemen, two
tight ends, and they telling you we're gonna run the
ball here, and they did it several times and had
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some big plays on it. But yeah, yeah, the one
guy ran for one hundred and eleven yards on him
and scored a couple of touchdowns. But it felt early
on like the Chargers were in control of that game.
And then at some point it flipped. And I think
it was when Quentin Johnson had that big fumble after
a catch. It was a big play, fumbled it, and
from that point on it was all Commanders. And I
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will also say man I was I was at the
game and it It's like we said about the Charges
two years ago, it felt like almost the Commander's home game.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was gonna ask I was gonna ask you that.
I was gonna say, Okay, now you're talking about it
the base, I'm gonna say, the Washington Redskins, Yes, I
called him. You know they come. They got more fans
from Washington, yes, than they do right here in La
and San Diego, plus in LA for the charge. That's
what I'm talking about, Fred, That's why I come in
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a nice little team. They are good. They are a
good football team. They are They're not a bad football team.
But man, I'm telling you, as a rightn you notice it.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
As a player, don't you want your man? You want
you like it when your fans are cheering for you.
That makes you like, yeah, we got our fans. Were
at home.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We at home.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah at We're at home. You at home and you're
hearing go Charger, Yeah, go go command. Yeah come man,
like waiting Ante hold up that dog? That was I
gotta say. Just like when we played the freaking forty
nine ers, I mean it was more forty nine ers.
It seems more ram fans at this time. But still
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I got to give it to them forty nine ers.
It was more of them there than it was.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But I feel, yeah, like with with the with the Rams,
it's really only the forty nine has come in and
really yeah kind of dominate the stadium. Everything else is
Ram Rams will dominate in eight team right whereas the Chargers,
I mean, Kansas City comes in, it's a sea of
red and it's all Kansas City. Even the Broncos come
in with a lot of fans. But last Sunday it
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was that Commander maroon that they had. It was all
over the stadium and they were cheering just as louder,
louder than those Charger fans. And you know, and you know,
if you've been there, you know the PA guy hype
Man is tried everything he can gythings.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Too, but it was not was not working.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't know what. I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I don't know what Charger team there is beyond find out.
Let's talk about what Raider team it is.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Oh Man, trouble, we got in trouble, oh Man, good good,
gracial life. They are in deep deep.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
For first off, I know they put a lot of
stock and everybody was fired up. We talked to Vinnie
every single week about Geno smith Man.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But he is playing.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He's I think he's the worst rated quarterback in the
league right now. And it has been ugly. I mean,
I don't know, I he it's like he went back
to when he started with the Jets. Is how bad
he's He's playing horrible, horrible football right now and really
giving him no chance to win. And and you know,
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the strength of them, I think they're last and obviously
a lot of categories, but one of the things that
one of their strengths was rushing the passer and their
defense and getting sacks. I don't think they've I think
they're lasting and pressures and lasting sacks as well on
that defensive side.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Pete Pete Carroll's guy, and you would.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And uh now I can't remember the coordinator just came
from used to be a Oregon head coach now used
to eli offensively that they would have it, you know,
somewhat clicking, and they just cannot get it going offensively.
It's been ugly for the Raiders and I don't I
don't see the light at the end of the tunnel
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for them anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, first of all, I'm not. I'm not a big
Chip Kelly fan anyway. I think why women and women
remember when he went to Philly, he destroyed that football team.
I mean really, no, no, no, when he took them.
Remember when Remember when he took that dismantling that football
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team got rid of Shady, that just got rid of
pretty much everybody you know. And and I mean, and
I don't know why. I mean, it was almost like
like an ego thing. And then they fired and fired
him the next year. But I mean, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not a fan of his. Pete Carrell I kept
telling y'all, I like Pete Care, But Pete Care's old.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Man, but he's not going out and playing.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm just saying, I'm just seventy years old. That's like
we want to play running back. He got a sixty
year running back out of there. He's gonna run for
sixteen hundred yards, right, you know the Raiders. Man. I'm
telling you, boy, I feel bad for him. I mean,
like you said, Geno smith Man, a quarterback, he throws
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two or three picks a game. Yeah through two last
week through two the week before. I want to see
two or three the week before that, and right the defense,
because I always thought that said raiders got to be
the only thing they got. They got some defense. But
right now, man, the defense, I just think the defense
is on the field too long. They the offense can't
sustain any any any any drives or you know, of
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any substance to keep them on the sideline to give
them that rest. I mean, and even asking genty a
little running back. Okay, he had sixty seven yards. He's
kind of coming along. But you know, it's just and
when your quarterback is throwing two picks a game, you
got no pride, you got no chance. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
What's what's the trouble about the whole thing is that
when they acquired Geno Smith, you sat back and thought,
all right, these guys have a legit quarterback now, because
over the past couple of years, you know, it was
a grab bag of who was going to play, and
whoever it was wasn't going to be very good. But
then you've got a bonafide starting NFL quarterback. He came
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from Seattle where he did perform well. So all right,
now you've got your guy, let's go for it. And
then this there's your frustration. I think you're missing a quarterback.
You got one, and now he turns into the ones
that were there before him. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You know. One thing is, like I said, Chip Kelly,
you know this is his offense, you know, and a
lot of it goes to can this quarterback run this offense?
Does this offense fit him? And it seems like this
offense does not fit Geno Smith. That's what it comes
down to. I mean, it's just it's not I mean,
you know you can. You can. You can be a
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great quarterback or great running back on another football team
and the and the offense doesn't fit you. It's like
when I went from the from the Rams or the Coats. Okay,
you know what they did, Fred, They pretty much put
in the offense that I like. We had an offense
already in place, but they switched it. They they made
they made plays at Ila. Okay, forty six and forty
six didn't have that at first, didn't have those plays in.
(27:22):
I don't know if they I don't know if coaches
do that for players now. But that's what I wanted.
I needed that because those are the kind of plays
I like. But when you look at this because I mean,
you know, he played well last year, he looked like
a different person. This year, they gotta take a totally different,
like a comeleon. Yeah, comedian, comedian quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
So if you went for the Raiders and a lot
of people in La do and you see this happening,
I know one fan, it's like, all right, it's already over.
I mean, that's how bad they feel that, like, all right,
the season's over. I they hired Pete Carroll, they're changing
the culture, they got a quarterback, and they still can't win.
And as a matter of fact, every game they'll look worse.
(28:05):
That's even a bigger problem. It's not like, oh man,
that one just got a way. No, they actually look
worse every game. I don't know what you do there?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Okay, this is well what do you do? I mean,
fred riding And you know from experience when when you
won in four, it's usually one and full with how
the Raiders are you digging out of a deep hole?
I mean, every you need to win every game. You can't.
You really can't afford a loss right now. The most
you can afford maybe we can afford maybe three losses,
maybe three maybe maybe maybe even four. But after that,
(28:37):
you can't lose them. We know that's not gonna happen.
It's impossible. I mean I have to say it's impossible.
But you know, it's got to be disappointing for the
Raider fans because I mean, I want to see the
Raiders win. I mean, I played one here for the
reason I like that, I like the organization. I want
to see him win. But to be honest with you, fred,
I just said it to a Raider fan today. Now
I might as well start getting ready for next year.
There you go, nicepan, I I mean, do you think
(29:01):
they're gonna make the playoffs? Do you think do you
think they're gonna win nine games?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I just you know, you just sometimes just have to
be honest about it. I mean, it is what it is,
and it's just yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
And where and where do you Where do you start?
Where do you start regrouving? You know, you're one and four,
you're playing horrible. You've got you know, you at least
thought you had your quarterback for the next you know,
four to five years. He locked him up, signed him
to a big deal, and he's playing terrible?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Are you you know?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
At this point one and four.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
As you mentioned Eric, you start thinking about next year,
how do I get ready for next year?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Or are you trying to salvage this year?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And if you are thinking next year, do you start
thinking about replacing the quarterback or you let him play
it out. So it's a hard decision this early in
the season where it feels like you've got no chance
number one to make the playoffs or even have a
pretty good and do you really throw in the towel
and said, okay, we're going with a quarterback change, you know,
(30:07):
and you got a guy that you're making thirty million
dollars sitting on the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's a that's a that's a tough decision to make.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
If you're really you know it, and it's you know,
as bad as he's playing, it's not only just Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's both sides of the ball are playing bad.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So if it was just him and they came down
and they had three or four of those games were
winnable games, and and it came down to Geno Smith
throwing an interception versus a touchdown, and he threw a
pick or made bad decisions in all three of those situations,
and you're like, yeah, we got to make a change
to there. But if it's the whole team, like it
feels like it is for the Raiders, I don't think
(30:44):
you can change quarterbacks at this point. But but man,
it's it's it's definitely bleak because I don't think changing
quarterbacks are going to really help the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Rodney, Rodney, they're not sitting him. No, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They can't sit. I mean, they got they got they
got the Titans next week, then they got the chief
the week after that. I mean, they got a chance
and maybe think they maybe could beat the Titans. Maybe
they ain't gonna beat the Chiefs. I mean, I don't
think I like to see him beat the Chiefs, but
chances are they won't. So then they got they got
to buy Uh, they play the Chiefs at home. I
(31:19):
can think they plan at home.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well, Eric, looks, you guys both know Mark Davis.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right, they're plant Kansas City, They're planet Kansas City. Yes,
thank you. That has trouble in case. All right? So
I like Mark Davis. Yeah, I like Mark. I like
Mark Davis.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, Rodney, you like Mark.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, I like Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think universally most people like Mark is that fair
to say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Very a very likable, likable owner. Yeah, yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He really. I mean, I don't know how we are
to everybody on the planet, but we can only react
by how people react to us and our friends. Mark
Davis is a good guy, nice guy. He cannot get
a break.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I know, I feel I think you are bad for him.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He just can't.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yep, ye right. Mark Davis the kind of guy that
you could You could walk up to him at a
bar or a store and say, Hi, I'm a big
Raider fan. I just want to say thing he would be.
He would he would interact with you like like he's
known you. That's the that's the kind that's the kind
of guy Mark Davis is. You know you're not You're
not gonna have security say step stay, step back to
(32:22):
get to get back.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, you know you should feel sorry for him, though, Fred,
I don't know if you can feel sorry for him.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm not saying I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I want to win. I get it, Fred, have some success.
That's what I wanted to have to man can't catch a.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Break, and he can't. I mean, they hire John Gruden
to try to put that thing together and then that happens.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They shouldn't have gas you have kept John.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I wonder how that lawsuit is gonna play out.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
First ball you're talking about, he's talking about the Mars
Smith and he's right with his big lip ass. I'm
with him with that lying. I mean, I gotta say
friends like this, that's like somebody saying you ball headed.
Every Oh really, man, I'm gonna sue you. I'm just
handfall here. I'm ball as hell. Yeah, I'm all headed.
He got big ass lips. He wasn't lying, all right?
(33:13):
Well is he lying? Was he telling a lie? Riding it?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Come on, I'm leaving riding alone? Grat Is he telling
a lie? It was just a lot more to that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Than But you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying to that, Like I said, I'm a lot.
I don't care for him. So anyway, it wasn't there,
you know the crooked.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, I think what really got him was when he
went after the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, yeah, that's god that that don't help you. That
was and I didn't say that. Now. That's how I
talked to When you're talking about Damors Smith, we talked
about him. What he said was the truth, said them
big super coolers.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
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Speaker 3 (34:27):
Come on, Welcome back to Ford NFL spot Light with
the Hall of Famer Red Rogan, Rodney Pete on a.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Beautiful Tuesday Tuesday right now. Yeah, apointed. I'm disappointed in you, brother,
what's that? You know what? I'm disappointed? You didn't you know?
You know how demorrisms is. I know how he is.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of his either, but I'm
We were talking about Bruden in the lawsuit and.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Were talking about That's what I definitely left. That's when
I left that. I'm the grouten things.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Groten showed a whole different side of Gruden.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Uh yeah, but but but the Mars Smith, you know,
you know, you know how he is.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Oh, I know that, and you never liked him from
the beginning. He just was really guy that was really
back into players like he should.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Have never never anyway, but yeah, okay, Well now we're
on the same page.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Okay, all right, Uh
so here's the situation. How would you handle it? Young
couple in India?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
All right, wait a minute, Fred, you say India? Yes, okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Is that troubling? How are you troubled by the country
of India.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That's a whole world away. But okay, no problem go here.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, no, no, no, no, Why don't you India before?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
First of all, I've never been to India. I've always
went to go to India. Not no problem with India.
I'm thinking, you know, that's a long ways away on me.
But okay, let's let's let's see what's jumping off in India.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Then all right, here's the wasn't our segment in news
from India?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
That's what I'm trying to say. People like, yeah, you
put the real emphasis on Indian. Okay, go ahead, Well
this could apply anywhere. It just happened in India, Okay, Okay,
I mean for the purposes of the two of you, Eric,
just just put this this couple in Calabasis.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, cool, say that in the first place, then Fred,
that would go for it. They could be in Palm Spring,
would you?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
They could be well, no, they'd be too young, okay, okay, No,
these people would be young here. If they were here
and they were young, they'd be ninety seven years old.
So that would give it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We'll give us the story for it, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Here it is, young couple gets married, very excited, they're
in love. Each of them at the time of their
marriage has a pet, so they bring the pet into
the marriage. I don't know if the pets are in
the marital bed or what, but the pets are in
the house.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What kind of pit?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Okay? A dog and a cat?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, that's cool, that's normal, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So there's a problem. The dog and the cat are
not getting along. They cannot they cannot coexist.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I'm shocked a dog and a cat don't get along.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
First of all, there are some dogs and cats that
get along, and I'm sure people they would tell.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Those stories, okay, most of them. The okay, go ahead.
They're like a cat and the coyote getting along.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I do not like coyote. I want that on the record.
I'm not a fan of the coyote anyway, okidd So
the dog and the cat aren't getting along. They try
as they might to get them to coexist, but they can't.
So what does this couple do?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Don't teraminate divorced over a cat, cat a dog?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I know?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
All right, So you think they divorced or you're wondering, Rodney,
what do you think they did?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I have no idea what they did, but I'm with
d hopefully they they didn't divorce because the cat and
the dog didn't get a left, didn't get along.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But this is what I would say. The I'm gonna
get to go hit nothink Indian man that they got
a lot of money. That's what you do. We go
get two different houses, right, you get two different houses.
We let the cat and the dog stay there sometimes
where we sleep over here, or we just sleeping different
We put we sleep in one room, she sleep one room,
we sleep another in the same house and make it work.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, So those are the options. Yeah, okay, well they
didn't take that option. Okay, they divorced. I told you,
that's what I said. I knew it. They couldn't get along,
so they divorced because we know who had the cat?
Who had the dog? Did the man have the cat
and the woman had the dog? The husband had the dog?
(38:39):
And yeah, the wife said her husband's dog harassed and
even attacked her cat repeatedly.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I'm shocked. That's what dogs do to cats. Yeah, happen.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Did they never have those animals together while they were dating?
They did, They did. They tried to work for it.
But there was another issue that has just come to
light that the woman's cat used to hover above the
man's fish tank, so it was like the cat was
gonna jump in and attack the fish.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
M M, well, I say this much your fair. They
didn't love each other anyway. You know there was no love.
I ain't no love. You if you divorce over some animals,
you don't love each other, you know, this is this
is sometimes this is for convenience. You know, I just
don't buy that there they went in love. I just
know you wouldn't divorce if I if I if I had,
if I was in love. I just love think about it.
(39:34):
Let me ask you, was you and your wife this
divorce over you gotta think you gotta think you got
like you gotta go way back for it when you
were young and really love, really in love. I'm sure
you still love your wife, But I mean, like, baby,
I just love you, you know, but that I'm sorry, Babby,
I just love everything. I can't I can't imagine. I
(39:55):
ain't waking up in the morning to you. Was you
divorced over a month and a cat with j all?
Divorced over there? Think about that? That's that sounds ridiculous,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You would try to figure out a way where they
could come.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Now, that's not that's not what I asked you. That's
not that's it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it doesn't sounds ridiculous? Yes, yes,
and no, that's yes and no question. I would not
thank you, right, That's what I said. They wasn't and
they weren't in love, right? Did they think about that? Yeah?
Come on, man, animal, No, No, I'll give it to
both of them. You're really absolutely both of them, both
(40:32):
of them. Yeah, and make it fair. Okay, you give
me your dog get it? My cat and we and
then we get.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
When we together, find the animal that works.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
For both of us.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
In India or elephant, right, get an elephant. That's what
you should do. Go out and get an elephant. That's
exactly you know why.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
You know why friends, you gotta worr about it because
he won't be able to eve in the bed long.
It's gonna be too big. So you know, we the elephant,
two bigs even the big just got too big the bed.
It's just me and you.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
But that's not like anything or you know anything when
you when you get together with someone and we gonna
you know, you both got a place. You are we
gonna live in your place in my place? You know,
you figure out whoevers a better place, and you decide
are we gonna keep that couch? Are we gonna keep
that bed? And we're gonna keep this and keep that.
You work out a compromise. But that should have been
done before they got married.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's that's yeah. Yeah, how let me ask you see
if you know this, how old were they? That's that's
the best quest.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They said young. I don't know young, okay, like thirteen,
that's too young to get married yet me do you
guys let your animals sleep in bed with you.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Hell no, I've been absolutely not. First of all, I
call all dogs months. I don't care if it's yeah,
we know the pedigree.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We've been to your house.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I got this little money here. This little money is
under under this desk right now. This munth follows me
around everywhere. There ain't meant no dogs, even the best discussion.
I'm sorry. I don't put no dog in the bed.
I mean nothing. A gets people who love the dogs,
nothing against him. I'm nothing. I'm not gonna have no
dog licking me in my face, licking me in my mouth.
I don't work with me because the dog be licking
his his privates, And I'm not trying to have no dog.
(42:11):
He's looking at butt, no dog but the dog. But
to your dog, thinking of a dog, you see your
dog is loocking your butt. No, fred I did not
say the dog is licking my butt. I was.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I didn't. I'm sorry. Come on, come on, you dog.
You have Rodney hot the dog sleeping bed. Your dog's
are big. Yeah, I got big dogs.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I got one of them that does love to get
up on the bed and sleep in the bed. But
certainly if I'm not, she not there. The dog doesn't sleep,
and dog's got his own beautiful bed. But oftentimes, yeah, unfortunately,
the dog will get up on the bed and will
it will sleep. Don't get on my side, but it
will sleep and make her uncomfortable. But you know, I
don't have a problem getting up, getting up and off
(42:59):
and up and off and up and off. At some
point you're just like, damn, hell with it.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So he's go ahead. So the dog what the dog
got fleas and fleees in the bed.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Now you gotta clean dogs not gonna have fleas. Eric,
the dog never goes outside.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You gotta watch them. That's like said, the dog ain't
got firm. Come on, Freddie's some ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
The dog doesn't have flees. I bet you more people
let their animals sleep in bed with them than you think.
If we took a straw poll, what percentage would you
say do and don't?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I would probably say about seventy seventy percent of people
pipped that their dogs sleep for maybe even more because
people the people love dogs when they love people, I
would tell you my dog's true. I had a dog
I used to have. You know, I actually have rocks
big rocks. So I had this my first rod wild.
This dog wanted to jump in the bed, you know,
because he sleep on the floor sleep. He slept in
the room next to the bed. And this dog was
(43:48):
kind of like kind of hard hitted, you know. I
could tell it's kind of hard hitded. So the dog
jumps in the bed. The dog jumps in the bed,
and I went to grassy, hey, get out this bed.
You know what he does, red you know the dog, dude,
what he growls at me? I was I was twenty four.
It was twenty four years Oldmember, I had to to
(44:09):
twenty four. You know what I did? Fred rout back? No,
I got my pistol. Oh and when I pulled the
pistol out, he went he It was like he knew.
He was like, oh okay, didn't he get out? He
eased off the bed real slow. I ain't even have
to cock it. I grabbed the pistol. Pistol on your dog, man,
I was gonna kill that dog. Dog gonna bite me.
(44:30):
That dog. When he saw that gun, he was like, okay,
then let me get out the bed. Real he got out,
real real slow, like like like I don't want to
make a quick move or nothing.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
He walked.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I said, get to us outside.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
He walked.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
How many people? I'm curious and if you want to call,
talk a little bit about it, because this is very
good topic. How many people are they're animals to sleep
in bed with them. Are you one of the people?
If you are, why, if you're not white? And if
you don't want to talk about how don't. We'll move
on eight six, six nine, eight seven, two five seventy.
The Ford NFL Spotlight is presented by Ford. Alright, let's
(45:11):
see what you have to say next.
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