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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rugan Rodney Peach at
a five seventy LA Sports. It's the day the Dodgers
can wrap things up against the Phillies. Of course they
have to play the game first, but it is the
day Rodney, that this series could come to an end.
Are you surprised that we're at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
No, I wouldn't say surprised. I mean I thought the
Dodgers would win the series, and you never know how
games are gonna go. I guess I wouldn't have been
surprised either way. I would have been surprised the other way. Actually,
if the Dodgers came out of Philly with being down
oh two, maybe, but the fact that they went in
and won both games, I'm not surprised by that at all.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The Phillies are baffled. They're completely baffled. At the top
of their order is not hitting. They're big three not hitting,
and you go, well, if they don't hit, we're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There were periods of time during the year, and you'll
correct me if I'm wrong, Rodney, where the Dodgers' big
hitters weren't all firing on all cylinders at the same time.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Is that fair to say? Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I mean, do we need to relive Mooki's slump, No,
we do not. Okay, So there were periods of time
this year where that kind of thing was happening to
the Dodgers, So it might be safe to say that
that kind of thing happens to teams during the course
of a season. Does that make sense, Rodney, Yeah, okay.
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So here's the difference. The Dodgers went through it when
it didn't count, and the Phillies are going through it
when it does. And there you have it. They're big hitters,
are not getting on base, they're not hitting. By the way,
are they all good?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yes? Can they all hit? Sure?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And is there a possibility they'll hit tonight. Absolutely, They're
all slumping at the same time. And there it is.
It's exactly what the Dodgers went through earlier in the year. Again,
and despite the fact it gave people heartburn and anxis,
it didn't matter as much then now it does matter.
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And you couple that with the fact that the Dodgers
starting pitcher is pitching has been exemplary, and there you
have it. That's why the Dodgers are up to old Rodney.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah, the Dogs. Look they're slumping, and yes they
are are. They're big three are are not performing well.
But you also got to give credit to the Dodgers pitching,
and especially the starting pitching, because they have been phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And we said this towards the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
As they got healthy, watch out because if they get
that starting pitching, which is the strength, which is why
Andrew Friedman went out and did what he did, is
for this moment and this time of year in October
to have all of his starting pitching healthy and ready
to go. And we saw that at the tail end
of the season leading into the playoffs, saw it against Cincinnati,
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and now we're seeing it against Philly. So yeah, they're slumping,
but the Dodgers pitching have a lot to do with that.
Yeah again, right now, the team are the best pitching
in the playoffs, the Dodgers right now. And you knew
that once everybody got healthy, and that's how the team
was constructed. So tonight the Dodgers go with Yoshi Yamamoto,
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and I guess if you need a guy to close
out a series, that wouldn't be a bad guy to
have do it because he has been superb. He's been
the best. If you go by statistics, he has been
the best. I think he's got a one five or
something like that era over his last I don't know,
six seven starts or something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He is.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He has been lights out, he has been unhittable. And
for them to have to, you know, trot him out
and the Phillies to deal with him, and remember he's
not afraid, and they're not afraid to let him go deep, Fred,
He's gone deep.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
He went deep when he almost had the no hitter.
He went deep.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know, I think a game after that or two
games after that where he went eight and a third
or eight and two thirds. So if he needs to
go and he's dealing against these guys, he can possibly
go a complete game. I wouldn't be shocked if it is.
And and they say, look, we're in the eighth, we're
up by three yamamodals in a relatively you know, good
pitch count situation that they do, they just don't let
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him go finish it.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Just let him take the ball and just wrap it up,
wrap it up. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, he's he's already got the length and he's done.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
The length before.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So if it is a you know, just say it's
a four to one, three, three to one game and
it's the uh, they're coming up in the top of
the eighth, he finishes them off, and it's still three
to one going into the ninth.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Don't you bring him back out? I would. Yeah, I've
had one.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Hundred he's had one hundred and three pitches. Don't you
bring him back out?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah? I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean you've been talking this the whole time. Let
these guys go. Just let them go. There's no reason
to pull them now. The counter argument that would be,
and I'm sure it would be presented if they went
and got them, Well, we have more games to play.
I'm no expert. I'm not doctor Neil Latrosh. I'm not
a scientist. Twenty five more pitches on your arm? Does
that mean you can't pitch for three weeks?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, can you only legitimately because of science and analytics,
go one hundred pitches or just a tad bit over
and be ready for your next start? Or can you
throw one hundred and thirty pitches and be ready for
your next start? I don't know, But I agree with you,
he does. Okay, right, Well we left Bob Gibson who
puts like four hundred pitches a game, and you know
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it didn't matter right guys back in the day. But
I agree with you. You let them go, let them go,
and let's get out of here.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I don't think this game is more important. And I
know everybody feeling comfortable right now. It's like, oh, we
we came back here with two O lead, We got
two games. If need be at Dodger Stadium, we're sitting pretty.
I think this game is is extremely important, which is
why I believe it's great that Yamamoto is pitching in
this game, because this game, you win this game, you
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have the opportunity and we'll see what happens with Milwaukee
and the Cubs. But regardless, I believe that series doesn't
start till Monday anyway, right It's gonna be a Monday
start for that. So what you do is you get everybody,
everybody's healthy and rested for the Ale or for the
NLCS against Milwaukee, and if it should be the Cubs,
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you may have more time, but it is it would
be so advantageous for the Dodgers to just go ahead,
close it out tonight and have that rest leading into
the NLCS, because if they have all their staff and
all of those folks rested and ready to go, they're
gonna be tough to beat. They're gonna be tough to
beat with that rotation that the Dodgers can throw at you.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The Phillies are baffled, by the way, and if you
look at the news conferences with their manager, they are baffled.
I don't I think they feel as if they've been coldcocked.
They don't know what has happened here. They can't figure
it out. I mean it's easy to point at the
top three guys they're not hitting, but you know, if
the top three aren't hitting, there are six others in
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the lineup that can hit. So they can't figure this out.
I am telling you. They are confused. They feel like
they got sucker punched and right now they don't know
how to get out of it. And it's momentum at
this point too. I mean the Dodgers look even in
a close game, and even the other night was like
oh god, no, trying to know.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Even then, I.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Thought they would be okay because that was the game
for the Phillies to break through Rodney right there. That
was the statement game for them. If they are able
to come back and beat the Dodgers. I think the
Dodgers are about flat footed because the bullpen lost the game.
The Phillies knew they could win, and we have an
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entirely different complexion to this. But because the Dodgers held on,
the Phillies are now in life support because I don't
think they know what to do. And when you're rolling
out Yamamoto tonight, it's not like, well, you know, we
blew our best guys now, and you know, here's the
fifth guy in the rotation. They're starting Aaron Nola. They're
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starting Aaron Nola. You know almos aeron Nola. Are you
kidding me? The Dodgers should jump all over him, and
I think they're starting him to get to Ranger Suarez.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, he's gonna have a short leash. Aaron Nola.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean he's you know, in the past, he's been there,
go to guy. He's been great, but he struggled as
of late. I think his area is like up around
six above and so he has struggled. But I think that, yeah,
they throw him out there and see if he can
eat you know, three to four innings and then and
then you know, go with what's next and if it
is swore, if the game is close. But they're hoping
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that he can he can kind of keep the game
at bay in those first three to four innings for them,
and he and he's he's got the kind of stuff
that he can throw you off and and can be
dominant at times, but he just hasn't been that lately.
He will not keep the game at bay in the
first three or four innings. I am telling you right now,
I haven't missed. Well, I kind of missed, you know.
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I said, the Dodgers just blow him out. You know,
it's your definition of a blowout.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
One run.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Maybe they couldn't win in the ninth, but the Dodgers
hang on. In my mind, that's a blowout. Okay, Okay,
Like I said, they'll get to Lozardo the other night,
Well they did. Now granted it was the seventh inning,
but they got him. They got him, So it's all,
you know, it's just how you define things. But they
will get to Nola tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, I do like the opposite, right they you know,
I'm sure they're thinking let's get to the Dodgers' bullpen. Well,
the thing for the Dodgers is, we're if it's close
and we're not taking Yamamoto out of the game, why
will we if we take yuh? If we take Yama
Moto out of the game, who's coming in It's going
to be better than him, and so why take him out?
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So they're they're faced with that as well, that we
can't bank on. Let's get to the seventh and get
and knock Yama Moto out of the game, because the
Dodgers could very well just let him go and exhaust
everything and empty the tank for the night's game, which I.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Think they should do, by the way.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But yeah, the difference with the with the Dodgers and
the Phillies there is that the Philly Big three are
struggling obviously, and and we've seen the Dodgers Big three,
as you mentioned, struggle this season and off and on
uh and then they've struggled in in playoffs past. But
the difference is the Dodgers role players. The Dodgers others
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guys are the ones that break your back. They're the
ones that break your back, the key k Hernandez, the
taoscar her Nandez, Max Muncie, Tommy Edmunds. Those are the
guys that break your back when you think you got
them controlled, the of the Big three, and all of
a sudden you think you can relax, but you can't relax.
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Whereas the Phillies the others haven't done really anything other
than maybe real. Muto is another guy that can hurt you,
and he's performed well, but sure to him, there's nobody
else on that in that lineup that you fear or
that you really are deeply concerned about.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's interesting when Dave Roberts is now talking about the
bullpen and I think we decided yesterday that we can't
put like trying back in, And even Dave said he
was concerned about his body language and his demeanor. He said,
oftentimes performance isn't even what he bases decisions on. It's mannerisms,
it's body language, it's a seeming lack of confidence. So
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I don't think he can right now. I don't think
he goes back in in this series. I don't so.
Dave was asked who's going to be the closer? Well,
he didn't OFFICI officially say Sazaki, but he said, he's
going to be used in leverage situations, high leverage situations,
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And I think they're concerned because they don't know how
much he can go. Can he go every third day?
Can he go every other day? They're learning along this journey,
which is even more interesting because now you're in the
playoffs and the Dodgers said, well, we're still learning. You
would think the learning curve would have already expired and
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you would know what you're doing. But they're still learning.
So I would think anytime now you can shut it down.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I think that will be it. That'll be it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
They'll put him in and what's really going to be
interesting And let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.
But I like to think this way, Rodney, what do
you do next year? What if he is this fireman closer?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You gotta put them back in the rotation, right, because
that's why you signed him.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Oh yeah, no, he's going back to the rotation for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, this is yeah, this is a situational time for him. Obviously,
he and he wasn't going to be a part of
the rotation in the playoffs anyway, because all the other
guys are healthy. So he was the odd man out anyway,
So do you not use him at all or do
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you try to find a way to use him? And
they found a way to use him. But going to
next year, yeah, he goes back to being a starter
and they try to work. He's too young to just
throw him to the bullpen right now and say, oh,
that's that's your role going forward. Now he becomes a
starter again in the rotation.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Okay, so tonight, obviously Phillies on the road, they're going
to be wearing their blues. They petitioned Major League Baseball
a couple of weeks ago, thinking that, you know, they
play better in the blues, so they were get permission.
They will not be in gray, they will be in blue. Now,
they could be in gray, they could be in blue.
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I think it matters who's inside the uniform and not
the color. So if their top three can't hit, they'll
be feeling blue wearing blue. But they think this is
going to turn it around. They're pulling out all stops.
They're going with the blues.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I just reminds you of teams wanting Dallas to wear
their blues because everybody felt that Dallas, you know, notoriously
where the early teams that wore white at home in
football and always wanted to try to wear their white uniforms.
So even when on the road, where most teams wore
their colors at home, Dallas would end up being in
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their white uniforms.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
So so what happened in the NFC East.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Was the then Redskins and the Eagles started wearing white
at home when the Deed played Dallas, so Dallas would
be forced to wear their blue jerseys thinking that that
was going to put a jinx on them or you know,
tip the scales in their favor.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, it did it matter. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, it doesn't matter. So whether they wear blue, gray,
or pink, that's not going to be the difference. That's
not going to be the deciding factor. That's not going
to be the difference maker tonight. If the guys inside
the blue uniforms can hit it, it'll be different. It's
not gonna matter.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I don't like,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Are you talking about the city blues or the alternative
uniform blues.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Or those old school I think the old baby blue,
baby blue.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I think the old school.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Okay, because I didn't like those those city blues that
they wear.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It's got it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's like a dark blue and a medium blue, and
they got the bell on the hat and it just
their ugly uniforms. So luckily it's the old school, you know,
light powder blue with the with the red in it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, now, I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
They could be going the alternative blue.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It didn't strike me until you said that. I know
I heard them say we're going with the blues, but
I didn't think they would go with the alternative blue. Yeah,
but they said they feel as if they played better
in those Maybe it is the alternative jersey. Maybe. Oh,
that's even worse for me, that's even worse. I gotta
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be honest with you. I don't know how you feel.
I think some of those alternative jerseys are awful.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The Red Sox wearing yellow, I hate that. I hate
I do too. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't like it.
There's few, there are a few that are pretty cool,
but yeah, the Red Sox wearing that yellow, the Phillies
in that blue, whatever it is, is bad. The Rockies
with that green Mountain not awful. Yeah, yeah, just awful. Yeah,
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you're not classic. And I get the idea.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We want younger fans to go out and buy these
really cool jerseys, so we'll wear them then we'll sell them. Yeah,
but you gotta you gotta wear something people want to buy.
Who in the world would walk around with a yellow
Boston Red Sox jersey. Well, you have to understand it
has to do with what happened in eighteen seventy one.
Who cares? They look awful awful, You wouldn't wear them.
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And if they wear that tonight, people will see you're right.
If they wear the alternative, the alternate jersey tonight, people will.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
See they're right. Laughing out See, that's why you lost.
That's why you got swept trying to overthink it, right,
those damn alternative blues.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I'll just say this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
If the Dodger's wrapping up tonight, and since I have
said they every game I said they would win, they won,
I will tell you the Dodgers will win tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So now if they.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Don't calling it again, yeah, but you know what, I
haven't missed yet, So I'm gonna say they win tonight. Okay,
here is my advice. And I don't know if the
Phillies are getting ready to head over to the ballpark.
Maybe some guys want to get some early VPN or
stretching Rodney. Maybe take their shirt off, lay down on
the grass like they're sunning themselves. As the Reds didn't
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find out that didn't work very effectively. Maybe everybody take
off your shoes and walk around in the outfield for
grounding purposes.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
To become one with the land.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Maybe they'll do that, and then if they get beat tonight,
here's my advice, because they might be listening now, do
not go back to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Do not, what do you mean, do not, under any.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Circumstances go back to Philadelphia if you lose tonight, whatever
you have to do to avoid getting on the plane
and going back, please for your own sanity.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Do not go back.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And when you go back, kind kind of just sleek,
you know, just kind of in a shadowy way. Go
to your house, get your stuff, and leave town. Take
some time away from the city, because if they get
swept tonight, it is going to be a blood bath.
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With those people there, they are going to lose their minds.
If the Phillies get swept if you are on the
team and you lose tonight and you are swept, you
should immediately put yourself in witness protection, change your identity
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for a while, move to a safe house, because that
is going to be really ugly when you are doing
your own team in the playoff game home, When you
are booing your team in the playoffs at home, what
do you think it's going to be like if they
get swept?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Not good, but.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Fred, you're asking like they're the only crowd that boots
their own team, their home team.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
In the playoffs in a game that if you win,
you're even in the series.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
What world are you living in?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That's the way crowds aren't lately and nowadays absolutely Yankee
fans boo their own their own club. I forget who
it was, but recently there was another there's another squad
that or another home team that got booed.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
You know, so you're Rodneys the boot they used to boot.
They used to boot the Dodger.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Players in the playoffs when the certain guys were coming
out of that pin.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Rodney, they're in the game. They're not getting blown out
if you're the Yankee and somehow they survived last night.
But in those other games. Yeah, you're getting hammered. The
Phillies weren't in the game. It wasn't over, it wasn't
a blowout, and they're getting booed. They're in the game.
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There's a difference if you're down twelve nothing. I get it.
I still don't think you should boo your home players.
But that's another thing. I get it.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
They were in the game and got booed.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So if they get swept, that is going to be
really ugly for them.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Really ugly. So what do you suggest that they wait
a week before they go home?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I suggest they just all get together in uh February
in Florida for spring training.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
No, okay, so we.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Have their loved ones or somebody friendly to go pack
up whatever stuff they have back in Philly and just
meet them, meet them in Florida.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, what do they train?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Clearwater? Wherever it is? Just get out of Clearwater, it's Arisota,
wherever you train, I don't know. Just get down there,
don't go back. Hey, it's just a friendly hint. So
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Speaker 1 (23:10):
All right, Fred, Rogan, Rodney Pete. We continue on on
the day the Dodgers could close out the Phillies. The
game is at six oh eight tonight and you will
hear it right here on the radio station. By the way,
David Vassi, who will do the pregame show, will jump
on at one o'clock. Since we are talking baseball. I
read Sam Blum's article in The Athletic. Sam has been
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on the show. He is a terrific writer. He covers
the Angels and quite frankly, I don't know why they
talk to him. I cannot figure out why they continue
to talk to him because he is brutally honest. He
is one of the best writers that covers any team.
He calls it the way it is. He doesn't sugarcoat it,
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he doesn't candy code it, and he is usually spot on.
What he does is he takes Perry Mnai in the
general manager to task. Mnassian declined to evaluate his own
job as GM over the past six years. Let me
just tell you what Sam wrote. Here's an excerpt. There
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is no young core, there is no bright future. There
is nothing really besides the sales pitch that has become
less and less credible to a right rightfully impatient fan base.
The sport is littered with clubs that have hit their
nators and rebounded, all within the timeframe of the angels
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last winning record. Those teams looked inward and built, They
made tough trades and embraced the pain of doing what
it took to win. The Angels won't even acknowledge as
a problem to begin with. Okay, Rodney, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Of that.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Is?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What is he not telling the truth? I mean, it's
exactly accurate, and it is the It is who the
Angels are. When you look at them and you go, okay,
they got some nice players and you know Ward had
a great season, and you know they got some promising guys.
But but when you look at the future of them
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as opposed to you look some of these other teams
around the league, Oh, they got a bright future. They
got a core, they've got young guys in their young
early twenties, and their pitching staff is really going to
come on. They got some prospects coming up in terms
of pitching and their outfielders. You can't you really don't
pinpoint that with the Angels. You don't see it as okay,
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give us two three years and we're building. I think
even mentioned that article about the A's, you know, talking
about the A's and you know everybody dumps on the
A's there, you know, just the lowest payroll and never
really been about payroll. And yet they've got a bright
future with their young and found a way to kind
of at least be exciting and win games. And when
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you look at him, there's a number of guys on
the a's that you look, Oh, these guys are upcoming
and promising. They got him under control for the number
of years, so you know, regardless of them not you know,
being the Dodgers or the Yankees in terms of payroll.
They have built a system where they've got guys coming
up through their system. Where is the Angels? You don't
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feel like that? So he's calling like he sees it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Now the question becomes whose fault is this? Well, First, Kevin,
you are the official Angels fan. What do you feel
about what he wrote?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
To Rodney's point, it's all spot on. I don't know
how you can argue against it. And then you ask
he asked Peramanazi, And you can evaluate the performance of
everybody else around you. You evaluate it Ron Washington and
got rid of him for performance based reasons, and you
can't even evaluate your own performance. I mean most people
you appreciate when players, coaches, executives say, you know what,
I haven't done well enough. Obviously the results are aren't
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what we were expecting. I hold myself to a higher standard.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
We need to do better.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Perry Manascian's response was, I don't want to talk about
the past. I want to look forward and talk about
how we can improve this thing moving forward, even some
contrition on his part. I think make inroads a little
bit for fan bases.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
But here's the people.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I even say that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, but here's the problem. Think about this for a second.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Did he not say anything because he has no tools
in his toolbox? Yes, he can draft players, we know that,
and he has the ability to trade. They don't have
an enormous coaching staff, they don't have an enormous front office.
He really doesn't have a lot of tools to operate with.
So is it his fault for not figuring out how
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he can succeed.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
With limited resources?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Or if he were to really answer that question, if
he were to respond, well, how am I doing? I'm
doing the best I can given what I've got.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
The former because I know it's a different circumstance in
a different era. How would Billy Bean have answered that
question twenty years ago, who had less resources than him
to work.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And on top of that, he's calling out Ron Washington
or whoever else manages the team for performance. Well, they
don't have much to work with. They got to deal
with it every day. This is what you're giving me
to work with and now you're going to evaluate my performance. Well,
so how can even make that argument for the manager
and you don't make that argument for yourself?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, what did they pay Ron Washington? Six seven million?
I can't remember, Kevin. I don't know if you know, I.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Don't know if the time I can look it up.
Whatever it was, I'm sure it wasn't much, because.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I think it's more than you think.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well, remember, I will say this, Remember where why Washington
was before he got the job. He was at the
Winter meetings. I don't want to use the word begging.
He was very, very desperate to get back into the
coaching ranks and wanted to be a manager for a
couple of years, and there were very few takers. Like
the Angels basically came onto his doorstep. They were like, hey,
you want to manage, we need a manager. You're a veteran,
Come on in. People were not even beating down the
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door to bring why Washington in.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay, but see how much? See how much A paid him.
I think I think they said, we're not gonna pay
the manager that much anymore. I think I was surprised
at what he made. I remember, I think they're going
to say, you know what, we're not gonna pay that much. Good,
we'll save a couple of million here. Yeah, but they've
paid the manager before.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
They paid Sosha.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
They've definitely paid Joe Madden.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean what I'm saying, but what I'm saying is
we don't want to do that anymore. Businesses do that.
You know, we looked at it and we decided the
manager makes two million dollars a year, not six or.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Maybe they said where we suck, and we've sucked forever
and the easiest thing that we can do is get
rid of the manager. So we'll keep doing that. They've
had six managers in eight years.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Or whatever it's been.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, okay, if you want to be honest, the guy
had like quadruple bypass surgery, and certainly he had them
playing I think about as well as they could play.
They were like a couple of games below five hundred
or hovering around that.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
They were around five hundred when that happened to them.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes, right, So you had a guy that had the
club playing at five hundred, and that's an accomplishment for
the Angels.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
You're right, So why would you get rid of them? Right?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's my point? What did they pay him? What did
they pay them? And did they say, Albert Polhols is
already here and we pay him X number of dollars
a year, a million dollars whatever, We'll throw another million
in there. Now he can be the manager. And now
we just saved X millions of dollars?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Did they do that?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
How can you have such an abhorrent farm system when
you are as bad as you have been over the years.
One thing you can be assured of, you're going to
get a high draft pick. It's the old we reward
you for being bad. Well, what happened. It's like there's
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no benefit for them to lose.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Also, he's saying that that they've never really done a
full like reset right where you go, Okay, we are
going to reset the table and we are going to
pump instead of you know, all of our high priced
guys that are in the contract. So we can't do
anything about that. But going forward for the next few years,
all of our money, extra money, whatever we're got, is
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we're pumping it into our farm system where that's that's
where our money is gone. And we gotta we got
to win with what we got on the field, and
hopefully they can, but for the next three years, we're
pumping money into building our farm system, building it up.
And so we have guys coming through the pipeline like
DA's did and like some of the other teams did.
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I think Baltimore is one of those teams that did that.
Kansas City did that. Say Okay, we're just gonna focus
on our farm system and you know, hopefully we can
be competitive at the major league level. And and and
now those guys have come up and started to play,
but they've never really done that. They've they've kind of
you know, you know, you know, the water coming out
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of the walls and you put your finger on one
and then another one opens up, and you know, seeing
those cartoons, it's kind of way they've done things. We'll
pay this guy here to alleviate that, and we should
be good. Oh that didn't work, So we'll pay it
with another guy real quick, and we'll we'll take the
money from the farm system because we're not gonna we're
not gonna do anything with that because we're trying to
win now for our fans. And so we'll plug this
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other hole over here. And they keep plugging that hole
and it never works. And the water keeps leaking through
the walls. They just never had a real plan, I
think is the basis of that whole Argicle article.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
And I think, go ahead, I'll just say I looked
up the salary before Ron Washington, so he's tied for seventh.
So he makes four million dollars a year. That's the
same as Stephen Volt in Cleveland, Bob Melvin to San Francisco,
who just got let go. Actually, Mike Schultz with the Padres,
Brian Snitger, all those guys made four million dollars these
past couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Okay, Well the lowest.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
The lowest managers, Kevin Cash makes under two million. Derek
Shelton with the Padres, excuse me, what the Pirates, Carlos
Mendoza with the Mets, and aj Hinch all make about
a million dollars give or take.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Ak Hinch makes a million bill a million and a half. Okay,
So Ardi Moreno could make the argument, you know, we
paid Ron Washington four million bucks and look what we got.
The Tigers pay aj Hinch a million and a half
bucks and they're in the playoffs. Maybe we're doing it wrong.
We'll just pay our guy a million and a half dollars,
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that's what it'll be.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Yeah, So instead of the guy that actually constructs the
team and gives aj Hinch the tools he needs on
the field to win, instead of blaming him, we're gonna
blame the manager who can only who can only do
what he has to work with. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Sam Blum's line besides a sale pitch that has become
less and less credible to a rightfully impatient fan base.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
And there it is.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And what's what's interesting about that? And certainly his demeanor
is very different than this individual, and he's not the
same kind of person. But if you look at the
operation of the franchise and that perspective, has Ardi Moreno
become Donald Sterling. Now he's not the person. I'm not
suggesting that, but just in the operation of the franchise,
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there's a real problem. It is abundantly obvious, and no
one is doing anything about it.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
No one could that be.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
If your question is do you think he prioritizes the
bottom line over putting a winning product on the field,
I would say yes, it certainly appears that way. Okay,
based on how he's operating his franchise. It certainly appears
that way.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, and there were people that would go to the
Clipper games when Donald Sterling was the owner because they
just the tickets were cheaper, or look, they just were in,
we're in. But they really took off and they started winning.
That's when it happened. And now you look at the
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operation of the Angels, a sales pitch less and less credible.
I think that line says it all. You know, we're
not buying what you're selling anymore, We're not buying that.
But they continue with the same sales pitch.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
This bad. It is really bad. And when people still
show up.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
If if say Mike Troutt wasn't there, how much does
he bring into the stadium from a fan base, people
coming to see him even though he's been hurt, but
times he's been healthy, and you know, going forward, people come.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
To see him.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
He's still the star on that team and still a
star that nobody knows in around baseball other in southern California.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You know, I think I think people will go to
the games in Anaheim because they are more affordable, because
people like baseball and they want to take their kids
to a major league game. But soon they will turn
into what the Clippers used to do. Come see Larry
Burr and the Boston Celtics against the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Come see.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Doctor J against the Clippers. What they would do is
promote who they were playing. In all of their advertising,
the Clippers. The word Clippers was like minuscule, but it
was Come to the sports are n and see Doctor
J against the Clippers. Soon they will become that. Don't
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buy Angel season tickets major League Baseball season membership. They
will become that you'll have a chance to come see
the Yankees against the Angels. That's what it will become
if they don't do something, And right now it doesn't
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appear there's the.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Only option for him to sell that team because he's.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
He's stuck in the way he's done things, obviously, and
they can't win unless he sells and there's a new ownership,
new group comes in that says we're gonna do it
a total different way. But as long as he's in charge,
they got no shot.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
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All right, And now from the Court to the court
Room with Jacob m.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Roanni No a weekly chat with our good friend Jacob M.
Ronni Jacob.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
How are you, frid I'm doing wonderful.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
How are you good? Can I ask you a question? Oh?
Of course?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
So I saw this story. I find it fascinating. There
is a bar. It's in Florida. They have cameras in
the bar people that come into the bar. No, there
are cameras.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
You with me?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
So far, so far with you?
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
They live stream whatever happens in the bar. There's no audio.
It's just a live stream with no audio of people
in the bar. And the people in the bar that
come in know they're being recorded. Okay, you got me
so far.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
This live stream with no audio of just people in
the bar is killing it, killing it. People are sitting
and watching this thing. So my question to you and
everybody in the bar knows when they go in that
you know they could be live streamed? Is that dangerous
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from a business perspective or a legal perspective if they
all know what's happening?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Well, I mean in terms of a business perspective. You know,
as an attorney who represents people who are involved in accidents,
if somebody would ends up getting injured in the vigital
question that there's evidence of it happening like in front
of the room. In terms of a business perspective, it
just shows how everybody is just so infatuated with things
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that are really irrelevant. Watching a bunch of people at
a bar and uh, you know, it's just dangerous. So
let me ask that question. What do you mean by
it's it's dangerous for the business?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
If people could turn around and go despite the fact
they know when they walk in that this is being
live streamed, you invaded my privacy.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
No, I mean in that sense as long as the
notice is given and you're basically doing get really knowing,
and I know you can't be saying, hey, I know
I'm being live stream but then now you're you know,
you have a choice to go to this bar or not. Now,
if somebody says, I really enjoy going to this bar,
but now because you're live streaming it, you know, you
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are keeping me from coming games, then somebody can make
that argument. But the fact that they are now live
streaming that I am now no longer going to go
there because I don't want to be live stream But
still it's a choice. The bar has a choice to
have cameras as long as they're putting it unnoticed, as
long as it's not hidden, as long as everything knows
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and people have a choice to either come in or
go out. So in that sense, I don't think there's
really much of a danger or a risk of the
business from a legal stand.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Fred was asking because he's thinking about live streaming from
Applebee's in Palm Springs.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
This Friday night.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
I think there's gonna be some real action going on
in Palm Swims that Applebee's. What is it? Listen, does
the restaurant clothes about seven and thirty because everyone's got
to go to sleep or something, All right, Jacob.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
That's right, dear, all right, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Our viewers are viewers. Our listeners love when you offer
some advice. Why is it so important to have uninsured
motorists coverage in California these days?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah? You know every day that goes by. Having the
best insurance being California is important. You know that a
lot of insurance companies are leaving California. A lot of
them don't want to ensure any body in California. And
for that reason, I feel like when it comes to
auto insurance, there's going to be a lot of people
driving in without insurance, or it's going to become so
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sensitive that people are just going to say that is
not the most important line item in my life. For
that reason, we've been talking for years and years about
our listeners making sure that they protect themselves. And I
cannot tell you how often someone's involved in an accident.
I ask them what kind of insurance do they have,
and they're like, I have full coverage, I have everything
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I need. Then when I ask them to send me
the declaration, they really have nothing more than liability insurance,
which basically means you have insurance if you're liable for
the injury of another party, or you have insurance for
being liable for causing or being the reason that you're
at fault for the accent. Well, people and what insurance
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companies now, since most people go and buy everything, you know,
basically online, you're doing everything through an app. In the
old days, you'd go to buy insurance and an insurance
agent would sit there and go through line by line
with you and tell you why it's important to have
the coverage. Now nobody does that for you. So for
that reason, most people who don't have the knowledge and
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will not buy uninsured motorists, and it really is exactly
what it's doing. Uninsured motorist coverage, which means if you're
driving around and you get rear rendered by somebody and
you're not at fault, and you get out of the
car and you go to them and you say you've
got to exchange information. So they're going to tell you
I'm sorry, I didn't have insurance. There's really not much
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you could do. People think, oh, you're just going to
sue everybody personally, but that goes on for years and years,
a lot of costs and really doesn't get anywhere. So
as the person says, no, I'm sorry, my insurance is
expired or I won't have insurance. If you've purchased uninsured
motorists coverage, which is an add on to your policy,
then you can just call your own insurance company and
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you can say, hey, I was in an accident with
this vehicle, take a picture of that vehicle, take a
picture of license plate, and they have no insurance. Then
your uninsured motorists coverage you will kick in and your
own insurance will cover you because you've been paying the
premium and not a lot, not a lot of the premium.
It's not that expensive. Your own insurance will step in
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and it will cover that for you. Another advantage to
having uninsured motorists coverage is, let's assume you're involved in
an accident with somebody who only has the California minimum.
In the past that used to be fifteen thousand, but
now it's become thirty thousand. But you happen to go
to the hospital and you got fifty thousand dollars in
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medical bills from the hospital. If you look to the
other party, they only have thirty thousand. So what does
that mean? You're twenty thousand out of pocket for something
you did nothing wrong. You're going to be out of pocket.
If you have uninsured motorists, then it could also act
as a un their insured motorists coverage, which means that
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same policy will step in to cover the balance of
what you have to pay and what that other motorist
did not have. So it's sort of a really literally
infriguratively an additional insurance layer to protect you if you're
driving around and somebody hits you that doesn't have enough
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and that's where the under insured portion comes in.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Perfect all right, very good advice. Jacob very good advice.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
Listen. I know I went on and on and on,
and uh, I know it's difficult to explain it all.
But if anybody wants to, you know, have more information,
please don't hesitate. Call out office. I'll walk you through
the whole thing so that you can make sure that
you're you know you're covered, and your insurance for you
and your family is covered. And I'll put more time
with you that what you need.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
No, right, Jacob, appreciate the call. Thanks so much. We'll
talk to you next week.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Thank you, guys, talk you soon, all right.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
When we come back, let's bring on David Bassett,