November 24, 2025 • 33 mins
The guys talk about false stories that have been published about them through the years. Its Lit features the President of the Yankees making comments about the Dodgers' payroll and a Japanese star player does NOT want to come to the Dodgers?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alrighty, we're going to continue on now, Fred Rugan, Rodney
peak ed. Eric Dicker said it. It is just a
two hour program for us today, and please do not
forget that we are giving away tickets for the Chargers
and Raiders. That's a get well game for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
Get Jacksonville's pretty good man larger.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Hey, everybody have a bad game for it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It happened to me now I understand what that was terrible.
That was embarrassing. Either way, somebody will get to witness
that epic battle coming up, and we'll be giving tickets
away between now and two o'clock. Okay, So, uh, this
is what we were talking about before that. I teased
Eric sent us something and uh, this is a post
on Facebook. Can I just read it?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah? Read it? Read it. I read it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
My friend Jeff, Jeff Hellier sent this to me and
make it fun and I'm like what wait wait, let
me go in all right, right, so this is breaking news.
This is on Facebook from a Rams fan love and
it was yesterday. As a matter of fact, Rams legend,
who once powered Los Angeles offense through its historic seasons.
(01:17):
Diagnosed with early on sense dementia at sixty five, can
no longer speak and struggles with memory. Family says he
only remembers his daughter's name and that he once played
for the RAMS, and the person they're talking about is
Eric Dickerson, and that that's on social media. Now that's
(01:39):
how he lies is so well. First of all, I
guess I can't speak, so I shouldn't even be talking
right now. So I can't speak. Remember that part they
had one about three months ago that I had purchased
part of the Los Angeles Rams. I got so many calls, Man, congratulations,
congratulations on what now? You bought some of the RAMS?
I said, Man, that's a damn. I mean, this stuff
(02:04):
on social media is totally out of control. That's why
you can't believe half of this stuff. Yes, I have
owned sets of Parkinson's and some dementia, but.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Not to that stage. I know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
But do you think that's the case because you you
actually came out and said that, you came out.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But yeah, but to say that I can't talk and
I don't talking, Yeah, I can't talk, and all the time,
I only thing I remember is my daughter's name.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I have two daughters, so which one?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And uh that what else it said that I just
remembered I played for the Los Angeles Rams. I mean, man,
come on, man, I mean they to stop this nonsense.
I mean they to be able to do something about
these people doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Who makes this up? That's what I want to know.
Who does this?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So you put that out there, somebody figured out, oh,
this came from so and so he's a he's a reporter,
or he's dialed into all the latest news, and they
get the headlines because they they pummel it and put
it out there with the headlines, so everybody clicks on it.
And then next thing you know, you know, people are
(03:12):
looking up and seeing what the next thing he posts,
and the next thing he posts, and now he gets
following because he posted something that was ridiculous and outlandish
and all of a sudden people start following him. That's
that was his goal. Yeah, and now Fred brought it up,
so now he's winning. Well yep, I don't know about that.
(03:32):
But what I do think is this that it is
really troubling. It is really troubling. And what's more troubling
is that because oftentimes you believe whatever you read and
I think that's a common occurrence. Now, oh my god,
somebody wrote that, so it's got to be true, right, you.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Got that one.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I used to say that all the time, even back
in my days and I played football. I see that's
a lie.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, I gotta I give Trump one one thing
he said credit is true. The fake media, I used
to say that all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They lie. They make up stuff to make the story,
sometimes a little bit better and bellishit, or.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They just blatantly lie. That's what it is. I mean,
it's like this. I mean, it's this man, it's really
because the fake media.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, just just might really get into it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Just just imagine if somebody said that Eric Dickerson accused
the murder, you know, he's a serial killer.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That'll be the next thing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What the thing Back in the day before it with
social media, you know, it would be on the front page.
Fred you know this because that's it. You've been in it.
You'd be you were in the news. But also the
print media was was more powerful back then as well.
That the headline would be so and so arrested on
drug charges. That's it, right, And then you go read
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the article and the article as well. We don't have
all the facts of this yet, just uh, we just
know that that he he was a part of one
hundred people that were in this place, that possibly there
were drugs involved, and we just don't know the real
story yet. But we'll get back to you. But that headline,
(05:13):
that headline on the front page, right, so and so
suspected of drug usage or drug paraphernalia or you know,
drug trafficking.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's dead Coltel, yeah, I mean so yeah, But anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's how people were drawn in Fred You know that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, I know that. Look, I think here's the problem. However,
you want to think of the media, fake, real, whatever.
When you get to social media, it's an entirely different animal.
It's an entirely different animal, and people are posting things
left and right. I cannot begin to tell you how
many times somebody has said something to me. I said, well,
and what I do, maybe because I'm really old school,
(05:53):
when somebody tells me something in sports, I checked like Times,
Well do you hear about this? I checked the Times,
or even I'll check ESPN. I check a reputable source.
And there are times where I check these sources and
what I'm being told doesn't exist. So even I sometimes
ERIC think, oh should I I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
(06:16):
I'm sorry, Ronnie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fred's one of us, He's one of us.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Is one of us?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now that was only twice and forty years. Anyway, I
think I think, oh God, maybe I miss something. Maybe
it's me, you know, maybe I'm not plugged in enough.
So I start looking for hours because I don't want
to miss something. It's what we do for a living.
And then I don't find it, and I'm thinking, God,
(06:51):
did did the Times miss it? Did a reputable media
company miss it?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then I realize it's not real. But I mean, I've
gone down that rabbit hole for hours trying to find
stuff and it just doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But afraid, I'm gonna tell you when you when when
you were like I'm gonna use myself when when I like,
when I played for the Rams and the media they
vilified me. I was a bad guy, I was a
bad teammate. I was this, I was I was ingrade.
I didn't know tell the ingrade was I was all
these things, which was a lie. And see, people read
that stuff and they believe it. That's the problem, you know,
(07:26):
and and and back then, it was no recourse, it
was no social media. It was no way to defend
you because you couldn't defend yourself because you know, people
used to say, just what you just said, Well, it's
in the paper, it's got to be true. They can't
write something that's true and that's not true, which is
which is a total misconception. It is it's a lie.
They can't write stuff it's not true. What they do
is they mix a little bit of true thing with a.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Lie and then they make it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Then they then they then that's how they sell it,
you know, and and it's it's it's sad. I mean,
I mean, just like this. I mean, like I said,
I can't even speak. All I remember is my dog,
my daughter's which one of my daughters? Why I got
two of them? And all I remembers that I played
for the Los Angeles Rams. Now people see that because
I got I got all these text messages.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Man, are you okay? You know I started saying I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Speak, text you back. I'm gonna text you back. I mean,
that's that's that's the that's what makes there used to
be a one side narrative and you couldn't defend. Remember
there was days with the most beloved players in l
A e. Ed you know, you're one of them, When
you were, you know, trying to just get what you deserve.
(08:33):
They put it out there as you were being greedy
or you were not being a good teammate or not
a team player. You remember when uh Magic complained about
West here, they booed him for the first two weeks
of the season because the media and the way it
was portrayed was even the difficult one. Same thing with Kobe,
Same thing with Kobe, they booed him, you know, because
(08:56):
he wanted to you know, possibly wanted to be traded
from the Lakers, and they only heard one side of it.
And so social media has given you, or at least
given the the athletes and the entertainers the opportunity to
tell their story. But now it's it's still also, as
I say all the time, is the town without a sheriff.
But at least you have the opportunity to clear the air,
(09:17):
whereas back then.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You really didn't have the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Someone wrote something about you in the Times and.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You right, you you were doing because I mean I
was I was doomed when some of the stuff I
would read, I'm like, I did not even say that.
I said, I didn't, I didn't say that. I mean,
then you got to read it, you feel it. Yeah,
you know, Oh man, I'm sure my mother hated football.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
She hated it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And she said, I hate the media, she said, because
they stuff they such, they say stuff about you. But
I know that's a lot. It's not true, I said,
MoMA said, it's just how it is. I mean, and
like you said, you had no defense for it. It
was nothing you could do. You just had to suck
it up. That's what you know.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Like when I when I.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Played with the Rams, mighty outright for two thousands, I
was making one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars, right,
That's what I was making. I won't forget Richard didn't.
Me and him talked about head. Richard was what a
fifth or six round pick? He said, Man, they had
the best deal in town on you. He said, I
was making more money than you, and I was the
second player taking So you know, they just you know
it and back, you know, and then and even now,
(10:23):
you know, the media is gonna always take the side
of the team. Now, you know, they that's how they
get their access, going to the team locker room and
talk to the team. So they gonna take the side
of the team. I mean, just like the NFL. I mean,
it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But you know it's true.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Rod, do you evereling like that of what like people
writing stuff that just wasn't true, or all the time people.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Write stuff was that true?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You couldn't combat it, you know, you couldn't combat you know,
he said this or he said that, or it got
out there and then I have two sources that that
said that he he turned on on uh on Wayne
fonce and it was all Wayne Fonts's problem or whatever
it may be, but there was it would it was
just regular basis Fred because again there was no and
(11:11):
then if the fact checked, it would come out in
an article or little note three days later on the
back page, going oh, we have to correct what we
said on Monday morning because that apparently was not the
conversation that Pete had with Fonts.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, you know, so it was.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, it was bad. It was it was bad.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know, to show you the way rumors start so
years ago, I mean this is years and years ago.
I'd probably worked a Channel four for three years. Okay,
that's how many years ago? This was back in the eighties.
Saturday night phone rings at my house. True story. Answer
the phone to say hello. The person says to me,
(12:00):
what are you doing? I said, what do you mean?
What am I doing? I'm sitting in my house. It's
Saturday night? Okay, so I'm not working.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What time?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh, it's probably eight thirty nine o'clock at night. I said,
I'm sitting here, and he says, well, you know, this
is the assignment desk of Channel four. So Channel four
is calling me at eight thirty on Saturday night. So
what are you doing? I'm sitting here? Is it really you?
I said, yeah, it's really me. Yes, I worked there.
(12:28):
Of course it's truly me. Why, well, we just got
a report that you were killed in a car accident.
What I said, No, I wasn't killed in a car accident.
I'm sitting in my house. And then the person says,
and I don't know, maybe it was like a weekend
guy filling in. Okay, are you sure it's you? Yes,
I'm sure it's me. I guarantee you it's me. I thought,
(12:52):
what the hell was that see what was that? At
least they had the courtesy because I worked there, to
call me before they decided they were going to announce it.
I thought, oh my god. People can say anything, anything, anything, anything.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But speaking of calls, Oh yeah, I got a call
one time. I got this call one time. This this
is a different kind of call.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
All right, what'd you get?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
They're say, listen at the home phone and a girl calls.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sure, she calls, and she says, in a sexy voice,
I'm like hey, and she started and she started talking
kind of all you know, this sexy talk, you know,
like I'm gonna do this to you. I'm like, oh, maybe,
I say, you called the right number.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
For this, baby. Make a long story short.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I start talking so crazy that you say, you're disgusting,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I'm like, hey, wait, you're talking.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, she was talking at us, you know, sex talking,
you know, you got the sex talk on the phone.
I'm like, I'm like what he said, Yes, I'm gonna
do this. I'm like, oh, baby, you call the right
number for this. So I'm like, okay, so I was.
I'm giving it to her.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
She's like, you're disgusting, but she called you. She called me, right,
she called me?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You called me?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, you know, Eric, when you look back on it,
do you know where you probably stepped across the line.
Do you know what probably was the point where she
said this is too much?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I thought I stepped across the line. But I'm like,
let her know, Hey, you want to call me, you know,
let's get at it. Then I think I told her
you called the right number. I'm your guy. You want
to talk to me, I'm the person to.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Talk to, all right, did you know who it was?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I had no clue who it was. Not at all. Oh,
you had no idea who it was.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
No, I think she called her wrong number. I think
she called a wrong number. She called her wrong number.
She just called her to see what it was going
to work out for and it didn't, you know. I
mean I was I'm like, hey, no problem, you can gon.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Do this all day.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So whoever she was calling, she didn't expect quite that response.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
No, she did not expect that response. Trust me when
I tell you, she was like, you're disgusting. I'm like, okay,
you call me.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I said, you call me.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So you never heard from her again?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Never heard from again? I know, never heard from again.
But that's that's when I had house phone. You know,
I don't never used my housephone. I used a cell phone.
I have a house phone because of my gate. But yep,
that was the house whone call. And I'm serious. It
was funny. It was funny because she called and she
said hey. I'm like, hey, this is I forgot what
she said and saying what's up. I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
This what I want to do to you.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm like, I said, hello, I'm not I'm gonna do that.
I'm like, I said, oh, baby, you called it right now.
So anyway, we don't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Be talking about football. Baby, I'm have it boy.
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Speaker 4 (17:18):
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Speaker 5 (17:22):
Stories lighting up their sports headbox.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
All right, we'll start in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Hol Steibernner, the president of the Yankees, did an interview
earlier today talking about the fact that he would like
to cut payroll this offseason if possible.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I won't say he took a shot at the Dodgers
per se.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
He did give him a compliment in winning the World
Series this year. He says, the Doctors have tremendous resources.
They've gotten the job done. That's the big thing. They've
played to their potential when they need to. It's always
a concern, though, anytime I feel that one team is
pulling away from the other twenty nine or selfishly pulling
away from me?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
So is he saying two things.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
At the same time here, whereas like, all right, well
they're spending a lot of money and potentially pulling away
from everyone, while at the same time he says, yeah, boy,
I think we want to cut payroll.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Here, Well, who's fault is that? First of all, they're
pulling away?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
He did say two before you start their fred because
you know, we released all these valuations of the franchises
and how much revenue all these teams have made over
the year. He says that that is not an accurate report.
So there is a report. I think we cited it
on the show as well. I don't know if it
was for somebody had it. Maybe it was a sports
business journal that the Yankees, for example, had generated seven
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hundred million dollars in revenue this past season.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Here's what how Steinbergner said to that.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
He says, I don't want to get into the specifics,
but that's not a fair statement.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Or an accurate statement.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Everybody wants to talk about revenue, they need to talk
about expenses, including the one hundred million dollar expense to
the City of New York. We have to pay every February,
including during the COVID year. It all adds up in
a hurry. Nobody spends more money. I don't believe on
player development, scouting, performance science. These all start to add up.
If you want to go look at the revenues, you
gotta somehow try to figure out the expense side as well.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You might be surprised.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
One hundred percent fair. One hundred percent fair. And that's
a valid point. Yeah, cost money, like cost money, do
spend on your farm system all that stuff? So he's right, Yeah,
it costs money to run a business. You're running a business.
You make seven hundred million dollars. You know what if
you can't turn a profit on that, that's on you
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made some one hundred million dollars. You can't turn to profit,
that's on you. And the other side is this, don't
sit here and wine. You know that that's disingenuous. Don't
sit here and wine. Well you have to understand, no,
actually we don't. We don't have to understand. You're in
New York and you don't want the real story here,
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the real stories that you've not done a very good
job putting your franchise together. That's the real story. You're
not built for sustained success, that's the real story. You've
made mistakes and in doing so, now you're going to
turn around and say, well, it's not fair because they
spend all the money. Well that's not true. You have
done a poor job, you're not where you need to be,
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and now you're pointing the finger at other people. I
find it very disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It is it is what they haven't won since two
thousand and nine, you know, and they're seeing the success
of the Dodgers, and in a lot of ways, the
model and the spending is what they were accused of
for since we know about the Yankees, basically from the
seventies Ons and Steinbrenners took over. They were accused of
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being the evil Empire, spending more money than everybody else.
And all of a sudden, now when somebody's doing it
not only spending as you're spending, but also organization wise,
are better equipped at handling and run a better organization
than you. Now you're going to cry, oh, there's something
that needs to be discussed about this, or.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Is it fair?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And all those kind of things. Again, I'll pass it
on to Ed because that's what loser says that you go.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Losers say that all the time. You're losing. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Look if you're saying let's let's let's go lowball, let's say, okay,
they did make seven hundred and fifty minut' say they
made six hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Million, okay, apples and oranges.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, now you're pointing the blame, like Fred said,
because you're not doing a good job. It's your organization.
But somebody over here is doing a better job. And
now you're jealous, you know, and that comes down to jealousy. Hey,
you know, And I just feel like I don't I
don't like when they talk about, you know, putting a
cap on players. I mean, at any job anywhere, is
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there a cap on how much you can If you're
a manager at say Walmart, is there a cap on
your salary? Is there a cap If you're the CEO
you know of Xerox, is there a cap on your salary? No?
I said, o'kay, they can cap these players. And another
thing is is that they making plenty of money. You know,
it's like football, right, you know how football? They like, oh,
we're we're not nigging no money, But you got you
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got the gambling, you got everything. Of course they're making money.
They're just gonna say they're not. And you know, like
I tell you, the Dodgers is the most hated baseball
team in the world. Well, you know they are a
Major League Baseball Then then well on the net, then
came the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I think they came Boston, so you know, hey, they'll
point the finger. Job.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Can I say one more thing?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, well then I'll say go ahead. Now, if you
really think about Dodger expenses, let's think about it. They
have expenses too. For example, they have two planes. Now
now that's by their choice, but they have two planes.
They've remodeled the stadium numerous times. Those are expenses. I'm
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sure there are things I have to pay to the
City of Los Angeles, taxes, things like that. Those are expenses.
All of those are expenses. I'm wondering why they're not
complaining about the expenses because they they And I'll guarantee
you this, Rodney, you correct me if I'm wrong. I
think they probably spend more organizationally in the operation of
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the franchise than any team in Major League Baseball. Would
you agree to that percent Okay, I agree with that too.
What about those expenses don't they count?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That don't count to them. They're not looking at that
because you know why I paid. They're winning. When you're
winning that, you know, you just get nobody else can
take it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They win it.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Because they got all this money. That's why they win.
They're not making great they're not making great decisions. They
just got a lot of money. Think about the gods
that made great decisions on their.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Players, didn't they And even that correct me if I'm wrong.
Didn't they fly the staff to the World Series? Rodney?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes they did.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm talking about people that answer the phones and stuff
in sales and everybody. That's an expense, that's an you
know how expensive that is to fly that many people
and it's got to be over one hundred people.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I would think, yeah, that worked. There them to the
World Series, put them up and went to the game.
So yeah, that's a couple of million dollars. That's a
tremendous expense. And he complained that we made we revenue
with seven hundred million, but we have to put an
extra hundred minutes soil you made six hundred million.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Six Oh, woe is me? Really.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So let's say they spent four hundred million on their payroll.
Now they have two hundred million, and let's say to
operate the entire the rest of the entire franchise is
one hundred million. That means they have one hundred million
dollars basing it on if they made six What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Trust? They're not working out of the red trust me right, what.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you talking about? It's like they got their owns
the Cubs. Listen, we're just trying to break even.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
We're trying to break even. Well, that's your choice to
do it that way.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's your choice. That's right, that's your You made that
decision to operate your business that way.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Do you guys know who Tatsuya Imai is?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Who is that?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
He is a flamethrowing right handed pitcher from Japan who
has just posted last week, And of course, whenever there's
a Japanese player who's posted, the immediate link.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Is to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yes, because of.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yamamoto and Otani and Sasaki and on and on and on.
So he actually did an interview with dis Ky Matsuzaka,
who apparently has his own podcast, and Diycek asked him, like, hey, well,
we have all of this Japanese flavor, as Victor Brick
would say, with the Dodgers, do you.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Have interest in going there?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
His quote, of course, I'd enjoy playing alongside those guys,
but winning against a team like that and becoming a
world champion would be the most valuable thing in my life.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
If anything, I'd rather take them down.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Do you appreciate the competitiveness in him because he can
jump aboard and go to a team that's won back
to back World series? But he says no, I actually
take more joy I've have taken an empire down than
jump on a board.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
First of all, much respect to him, I like it.
Second of all, he's well aware of the fact that
the Dodgers don't want it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Cause is that what that sounds?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's what it tells me. You know what, I'm gonna
take those guys down, will you better because they don't
want it? Because where are they gonna put you? But
I d respect that he said that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Rodney, I think part of that is right. Fred said,
you know when you find out, hey, well, it's like
you know when that that girl says he's not interested
in you say, well, I wasn't interested in you anyway,
you know, and so I think I didn't. I didn't
want your sorry ass anyway, So what you're talking about,
(26:24):
But yeah, it could be that for sure, that that
you know, they know that Dodgers are not going to
pay what he thinks he should be paid, or you know,
whatever other teams may be, you know, be paying for folks.
And it's got word out there out there that you know,
Dodgers are not going to really pursue him, that he's
come out and say, yeah, I'd rather take him down now,
trust me. If the Dodgers would have said, be very interested,
(26:46):
if they had the same interest as the Dodgers had
in Sazaki and Yamamoto, he was like, oh, it'd be
a dream for me to play for the Dodgers. Oh
my god, to play with Otani and Yamamoto and Sazaki
and and continue the leg you see him Japanese players
playing for the Dogs.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
He would be singing the praises. If the Dodgers were
adamantly out there saying we want this guy, we want
us to try to sign this guy. He's our he's
number one on our list, he would have a totally
different tune than he has right now.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It would be like, well, you think he wants to
go to the Rockies, Like, hey, I can't wait to
play for the Rockies. You know, so I could. I
could turn them around by myself. It don't work like
that in baseball. I mean, you got to have a
whole team of players. So I'm with you guys. You know,
the Dodgers, I don't know. Like I said, I don't know,
Dodgers must not want it. And that's that's a that's
(27:41):
a slap in the face. But I do like him
saying that. I mean, that shows how confidence you are.
But come on, man, you know baseball is not a
it's not a one man's sport.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
No sport is track and field. But you've got to
have you got to have a team. I mean, that's
like saying, man, I want to play for the Cleveland Browns,
but the Los Angeles rams on me. But now I
want to play for the Browns. Oh come on, don
you why you're gonna play for them?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
They say, sorry, Kevin didn't mention any other teams that
might be interested.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It did not not that I saw at least.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And is the guy with the podcast the third baseman
that's been posted.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
No, No, that's dice K Matsuzaka of the former the
former Major League Pitture.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
So the former picture the Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, So he had a podcast and he was a
guest on dice Case podcast.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
And since you guys brought up the Browns.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
To just a quick take on Shador Sanders debut against
the Raiders yesterday. Now we can say he was just
the Raiders, but still it wasn't his debut, but it
was his first start. He came off the bench last
week against Baltimore. But and I think for the most part,
I played pretty well against the Raiders yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What'd you guys think, Man.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is I look at it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know, they crucified and the first week he played,
and I'm like, yeah, I understand, you must understand this.
He hadn't played all year, and all of a sudden,
you throw him out there and he's he's supposed to
like four touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I saw some reporters and I see, this is why
he didn't go in the first round.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
This is why.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Man, that's one game. That's one football game. It's a
lot of football left you've got to give him a chance.
He's a he's a rookie.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
He's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
This is that was his first not even start, the
first time he got a chance to play, you know,
and he played pretty well last week, you know, so
against the Raiders. I mean they are the Raiders, but
still Raiders got a good, pretty good defense. And it
is the NFL. So I thought he played pretty good.
I mean, I really I think as time goes on,
hopefully plays better. But you know, Kevin Man, you go
to the Browns, it's just not it's not a good
(29:35):
place to go. I mean, to be honest with you,
I mean they look at all the first round draft
picks they've had, they had Baker Mayfield. I mean they've
had everybody and just ruined him.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, NFL's NFL. You know, the team is
two and nine. They still got good players. Eric mentioned,
they still got you know, a pretty good defense. You
still got to play. You still got to compete. And and
he's he's a he's a he's a rookie, been thrust
into a situation where and as a backup, he doesn't
(30:07):
get up. Until last week, he didn't get any reps
in practice, you get the starters, get all the reps
and all the looks and all the prep time to
get ready for the game. And so this was the
first week he got that going into this Raider game.
He didn't have that when they played Baltimore and everybody
wanted to crucify him. Uh, he had it this week.
And to me, look, I think they should just riding
(30:31):
for the rest of the season because they got to
figure out what they're gonna do. They got to figure
out what they have. It's gonna be Gabriel. It's gonna
be him. But I think, you know, the fact that
Gabriel got hurt opened the door for them to say, Okay,
let's figure out if the door can be a NFL
quarterback unlet's just let him play the remainder of the season.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
And that's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Rodney Kevinsfanski said that this morning that he will be
quarterback one moving forward, even when Dylan Gabriel clears concussion protocol.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
And that's was lighting up the hills, that's winding up
that line.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
All right, come on, we got a quick one today
at two hour show. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, Hall of
Famer Eric Dickerson on the four NFL Spotlight on a
beautiful man.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Hey, Hey, rd, and I got a question for you. Yeah,
it's just I mean, it's a football question. And I've
never asked a quarterback to sever you know when you know,
when the quarterbacks I come up to numbers like red
twenty six.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Y'all just picked numbers randomly. What it is? Sixty five?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, pretty random because it's not because you know, if
it's got a live color, you got a lot of
live number that means something. But when it's not and
it's just random, yeah, you get certain of it. I
was I was a blue eighty eight guy. I was
a blue eighty I was a blue eighty eight guy.
(32:41):
And I was a red ninety one. I was a
red ninety one guy. That was one of the number.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah. Funny, it was funny about that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Is that because even like kids when they watched and
even our j loved to watch Aaron Rodgers when he
was at Green Bay, and everything he said was three
nineteen three anything.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I always I always wondered that.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, you pick them at random, and then
you get caught up and you know when it's not
you know you're not changing the play.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You get caught up in the same things that you've
been yelling. So I was.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Always blue eighty eight blue. And sometimes you say it
emphatically like it really meant something.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It was like.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I did have one cat. Tim Harris used to play
for Green Bay. You used to say me, no, blue
eighty eight, ain't it ain't nothing. You said, ain't don't
mean Okay, you asked question.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
That's random. It's definitely rare. Yea. They're right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well, Eric, have a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Thank you too. Fraid you too, Ridey in your family.
Thanksgiving y'all. Bokay absolutely, oh you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Bye, all right, Ronnie, Kevin Grant, thank you for today
and Rodney. We're back tomorrow, sir
Alrighty, we're going to continue on now, Fred Rugan, Rodney
peak ed. Eric Dicker said it. It is just a
two hour program for us today, and please do not
forget that we are giving away tickets for the Chargers
and Raiders. That's a get well game for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They charges played against Jacksonville. I don't know if it's a.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Get Jacksonville's pretty good man larger.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Hey, everybody have a bad game for it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It happened to me now I understand what that was terrible.
That was embarrassing. Either way, somebody will get to witness
that epic battle coming up, and we'll be giving tickets
away between now and two o'clock. Okay, So, uh, this
is what we were talking about before that. I teased
Eric sent us something and uh, this is a post
on Facebook. Can I just read it?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah? Read it? Read it. I read it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
My friend Jeff, Jeff Hellier sent this to me and
make it fun and I'm like what wait wait, let
me go in all right, right, so this is breaking news.
This is on Facebook from a Rams fan love and
it was yesterday. As a matter of fact, Rams legend,
who once powered Los Angeles offense through its historic seasons.
(01:17):
Diagnosed with early on sense dementia at sixty five, can
no longer speak and struggles with memory. Family says he
only remembers his daughter's name and that he once played
for the RAMS, and the person they're talking about is
Eric Dickerson, and that that's on social media. Now that's
(01:39):
how he lies is so well. First of all, I
guess I can't speak, so I shouldn't even be talking
right now. So I can't speak. Remember that part they
had one about three months ago that I had purchased
part of the Los Angeles Rams. I got so many calls, Man, congratulations,
congratulations on what now? You bought some of the RAMS?
I said, Man, that's a damn. I mean, this stuff
(02:04):
on social media is totally out of control. That's why
you can't believe half of this stuff. Yes, I have
owned sets of Parkinson's and some dementia, but.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Not to that stage. I know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
But do you think that's the case because you you
actually came out and said that, you came out.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But yeah, but to say that I can't talk and
I don't talking, Yeah, I can't talk, and all the time,
I only thing I remember is my daughter's name.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I have two daughters, so which one?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And uh that what else it said that I just
remembered I played for the Los Angeles Rams. I mean, man,
come on, man, I mean they to stop this nonsense.
I mean they to be able to do something about
these people doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Who makes this up? That's what I want to know.
Who does this?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So you put that out there, somebody figured out, oh,
this came from so and so he's a he's a reporter,
or he's dialed into all the latest news, and they
get the headlines because they they pummel it and put
it out there with the headlines, so everybody clicks on it.
And then next thing you know, you know, people are
(03:12):
looking up and seeing what the next thing he posts,
and the next thing he posts, and now he gets
following because he posted something that was ridiculous and outlandish
and all of a sudden people start following him. That's
that was his goal. Yeah, and now Fred brought it up,
so now he's winning. Well yep, I don't know about that.
(03:32):
But what I do think is this that it is
really troubling. It is really troubling. And what's more troubling
is that because oftentimes you believe whatever you read and
I think that's a common occurrence. Now, oh my god,
somebody wrote that, so it's got to be true, right, you.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Got that one.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I used to say that all the time, even back
in my days and I played football. I see that's
a lie.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, I gotta I give Trump one one thing
he said credit is true. The fake media, I used
to say that all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They lie. They make up stuff to make the story,
sometimes a little bit better and bellishit, or.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They just blatantly lie. That's what it is. I mean,
it's like this. I mean, it's this man, it's really
because the fake media.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, just just might really get into it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Just just imagine if somebody said that Eric Dickerson accused
the murder, you know, he's a serial killer.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That'll be the next thing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What the thing Back in the day before it with
social media, you know, it would be on the front page.
Fred you know this because that's it. You've been in it.
You'd be you were in the news. But also the
print media was was more powerful back then as well.
That the headline would be so and so arrested on
drug charges. That's it, right, And then you go read
(04:52):
the article and the article as well. We don't have
all the facts of this yet, just uh, we just
know that that he he was a part of one
hundred people that were in this place, that possibly there
were drugs involved, and we just don't know the real
story yet. But we'll get back to you. But that headline,
(05:13):
that headline on the front page, right, so and so
suspected of drug usage or drug paraphernalia or you know,
drug trafficking.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's dead Coltel, yeah, I mean so yeah, But anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's how people were drawn in Fred You know that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, I know that. Look, I think here's the problem. However,
you want to think of the media, fake, real, whatever.
When you get to social media, it's an entirely different animal.
It's an entirely different animal, and people are posting things
left and right. I cannot begin to tell you how
many times somebody has said something to me. I said, well,
and what I do, maybe because I'm really old school,
(05:53):
when somebody tells me something in sports, I checked like Times,
Well do you hear about this? I checked the Times,
or even I'll check ESPN. I check a reputable source.
And there are times where I check these sources and
what I'm being told doesn't exist. So even I sometimes
ERIC think, oh should I I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
(06:16):
I'm sorry, Ronnie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fred's one of us, He's one of us.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Is one of us?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now that was only twice and forty years. Anyway, I
think I think, oh God, maybe I miss something. Maybe
it's me, you know, maybe I'm not plugged in enough.
So I start looking for hours because I don't want
to miss something. It's what we do for a living.
And then I don't find it, and I'm thinking, God,
(06:51):
did did the Times miss it? Did a reputable media
company miss it?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then I realize it's not real. But I mean, I've
gone down that rabbit hole for hours trying to find
stuff and it just doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But afraid, I'm gonna tell you when you when when
you were like I'm gonna use myself when when I like,
when I played for the Rams and the media they
vilified me. I was a bad guy, I was a
bad teammate. I was this, I was I was ingrade.
I didn't know tell the ingrade was I was all
these things, which was a lie. And see, people read
that stuff and they believe it. That's the problem, you know,
(07:26):
and and and back then, it was no recourse, it
was no social media. It was no way to defend
you because you couldn't defend yourself because you know, people
used to say, just what you just said, Well, it's
in the paper, it's got to be true. They can't
write something that's true and that's not true, which is
which is a total misconception. It is it's a lie.
They can't write stuff it's not true. What they do
is they mix a little bit of true thing with a.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Lie and then they make it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Then they then they then that's how they sell it,
you know, and and it's it's it's sad. I mean,
I mean, just like this. I mean, like I said,
I can't even speak. All I remember is my dog,
my daughter's which one of my daughters? Why I got
two of them? And all I remembers that I played
for the Los Angeles Rams. Now people see that because
I got I got all these text messages.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Man, are you okay? You know I started saying I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Speak, text you back. I'm gonna text you back. I mean,
that's that's that's the that's what makes there used to
be a one side narrative and you couldn't defend. Remember
there was days with the most beloved players in l
A e. Ed you know, you're one of them, When
you were, you know, trying to just get what you deserve.
(08:33):
They put it out there as you were being greedy
or you were not being a good teammate or not
a team player. You remember when uh Magic complained about
West here, they booed him for the first two weeks
of the season because the media and the way it
was portrayed was even the difficult one. Same thing with Kobe,
Same thing with Kobe, they booed him, you know, because
(08:56):
he wanted to you know, possibly wanted to be traded
from the Lakers, and they only heard one side of it.
And so social media has given you, or at least
given the the athletes and the entertainers the opportunity to
tell their story. But now it's it's still also, as
I say all the time, is the town without a sheriff.
But at least you have the opportunity to clear the air,
(09:17):
whereas back then.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You really didn't have the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Someone wrote something about you in the Times and.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You right, you you were doing because I mean I
was I was doomed when some of the stuff I
would read, I'm like, I did not even say that.
I said, I didn't, I didn't say that. I mean,
then you got to read it, you feel it. Yeah,
you know, Oh man, I'm sure my mother hated football.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
She hated it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And she said, I hate the media, she said, because
they stuff they such, they say stuff about you. But
I know that's a lot. It's not true, I said,
MoMA said, it's just how it is. I mean, and
like you said, you had no defense for it. It
was nothing you could do. You just had to suck
it up. That's what you know.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Like when I when I.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Played with the Rams, mighty outright for two thousands, I
was making one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars, right,
That's what I was making. I won't forget Richard didn't.
Me and him talked about head. Richard was what a
fifth or six round pick? He said, Man, they had
the best deal in town on you. He said, I
was making more money than you, and I was the
second player taking So you know, they just you know
it and back, you know, and then and even now,
(10:23):
you know, the media is gonna always take the side
of the team. Now, you know, they that's how they
get their access, going to the team locker room and
talk to the team. So they gonna take the side
of the team. I mean, just like the NFL. I mean,
it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But you know it's true.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Rod, do you evereling like that of what like people
writing stuff that just wasn't true, or all the time people.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Write stuff was that true?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You couldn't combat it, you know, you couldn't combat you know,
he said this or he said that, or it got
out there and then I have two sources that that
said that he he turned on on uh on Wayne
fonce and it was all Wayne Fonts's problem or whatever
it may be, but there was it would it was
just regular basis Fred because again there was no and
(11:11):
then if the fact checked, it would come out in
an article or little note three days later on the
back page, going oh, we have to correct what we
said on Monday morning because that apparently was not the
conversation that Pete had with Fonts.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, you know, so it was.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, it was bad. It was it was bad.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know, to show you the way rumors start so
years ago, I mean this is years and years ago.
I'd probably worked a Channel four for three years. Okay,
that's how many years ago? This was back in the eighties.
Saturday night phone rings at my house. True story. Answer
the phone to say hello. The person says to me,
(12:00):
what are you doing? I said, what do you mean?
What am I doing? I'm sitting in my house. It's
Saturday night? Okay, so I'm not working.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What time?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh, it's probably eight thirty nine o'clock at night. I said,
I'm sitting here, and he says, well, you know, this
is the assignment desk of Channel four. So Channel four
is calling me at eight thirty on Saturday night. So
what are you doing? I'm sitting here? Is it really you?
I said, yeah, it's really me. Yes, I worked there.
(12:28):
Of course it's truly me. Why, well, we just got
a report that you were killed in a car accident.
What I said, No, I wasn't killed in a car accident.
I'm sitting in my house. And then the person says,
and I don't know, maybe it was like a weekend
guy filling in. Okay, are you sure it's you? Yes,
I'm sure it's me. I guarantee you it's me. I thought,
(12:52):
what the hell was that see what was that? At
least they had the courtesy because I worked there, to
call me before they decided they were going to announce it.
I thought, oh my god. People can say anything, anything, anything, anything.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But speaking of calls, Oh yeah, I got a call
one time. I got this call one time. This this
is a different kind of call.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
All right, what'd you get?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
They're say, listen at the home phone and a girl calls.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sure, she calls, and she says, in a sexy voice,
I'm like hey, and she started and she started talking
kind of all you know, this sexy talk, you know,
like I'm gonna do this to you. I'm like, oh, maybe,
I say, you called the right number.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
For this, baby. Make a long story short.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I start talking so crazy that you say, you're disgusting,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I'm like, hey, wait, you're talking.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, she was talking at us, you know, sex talking,
you know, you got the sex talk on the phone.
I'm like, I'm like what he said, Yes, I'm gonna
do this. I'm like, oh, baby, you call the right
number for this. So I'm like, okay, so I was.
I'm giving it to her.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
She's like, you're disgusting, but she called you. She called me, right,
she called me?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You called me?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, you know, Eric, when you look back on it,
do you know where you probably stepped across the line.
Do you know what probably was the point where she
said this is too much?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I thought I stepped across the line. But I'm like,
let her know, Hey, you want to call me, you know,
let's get at it. Then I think I told her
you called the right number. I'm your guy. You want
to talk to me, I'm the person to.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Talk to, all right, did you know who it was?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I had no clue who it was. Not at all. Oh,
you had no idea who it was.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
No, I think she called her wrong number. I think
she called a wrong number. She called her wrong number.
She just called her to see what it was going
to work out for and it didn't, you know. I
mean I was I'm like, hey, no problem, you can gon.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Do this all day.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So whoever she was calling, she didn't expect quite that response.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
No, she did not expect that response. Trust me when
I tell you, she was like, you're disgusting. I'm like, okay,
you call me.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I said, you call me.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So you never heard from her again?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Never heard from again? I know, never heard from again.
But that's that's when I had house phone. You know,
I don't never used my housephone. I used a cell phone.
I have a house phone because of my gate. But yep,
that was the house whone call. And I'm serious. It
was funny. It was funny because she called and she
said hey. I'm like, hey, this is I forgot what
she said and saying what's up. I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
This what I want to do to you.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm like, I said, hello, I'm not I'm gonna do that.
I'm like, I said, oh, baby, you called it right now.
So anyway, we don't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Be talking about football. Baby, I'm have it boy.
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Yeah, let's keep it moving.
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Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, he is slipt.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
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Speaker 6 (17:25):
All right, we'll start in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Hol Steibernner, the president of the Yankees, did an interview
earlier today talking about the fact that he would like
to cut payroll this offseason if possible.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I won't say he took a shot at the Dodgers
per se.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
He did give him a compliment in winning the World
Series this year. He says, the Doctors have tremendous resources.
They've gotten the job done. That's the big thing. They've
played to their potential when they need to. It's always
a concern, though, anytime I feel that one team is
pulling away from the other twenty nine or selfishly pulling
away from me?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
So is he saying two things.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
At the same time here, whereas like, all right, well
they're spending a lot of money and potentially pulling away
from everyone, while at the same time he says, yeah, boy,
I think we want to cut payroll.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Here, Well, who's fault is that? First of all, they're
pulling away?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
He did say two before you start their fred because
you know, we released all these valuations of the franchises
and how much revenue all these teams have made over
the year. He says that that is not an accurate report.
So there is a report. I think we cited it
on the show as well. I don't know if it
was for somebody had it. Maybe it was a sports
business journal that the Yankees, for example, had generated seven
(18:31):
hundred million dollars in revenue this past season.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Here's what how Steinbergner said to that.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
He says, I don't want to get into the specifics,
but that's not a fair statement.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Or an accurate statement.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Everybody wants to talk about revenue, they need to talk
about expenses, including the one hundred million dollar expense to
the City of New York. We have to pay every February,
including during the COVID year. It all adds up in
a hurry. Nobody spends more money. I don't believe on
player development, scouting, performance science. These all start to add up.
If you want to go look at the revenues, you
gotta somehow try to figure out the expense side as well.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You might be surprised.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
One hundred percent fair. One hundred percent fair. And that's
a valid point. Yeah, cost money, like cost money, do
spend on your farm system all that stuff? So he's right, Yeah,
it costs money to run a business. You're running a business.
You make seven hundred million dollars. You know what if
you can't turn a profit on that, that's on you
(19:22):
made some one hundred million dollars. You can't turn to profit,
that's on you. And the other side is this, don't
sit here and wine. You know that that's disingenuous. Don't
sit here and wine. Well you have to understand, no,
actually we don't. We don't have to understand. You're in
New York and you don't want the real story here,
(19:43):
the real stories that you've not done a very good
job putting your franchise together. That's the real story. You're
not built for sustained success, that's the real story. You've
made mistakes and in doing so, now you're going to
turn around and say, well, it's not fair because they
spend all the money. Well that's not true. You have
done a poor job, you're not where you need to be,
(20:04):
and now you're pointing the finger at other people. I
find it very disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It is it is what they haven't won since two
thousand and nine, you know, and they're seeing the success
of the Dodgers, and in a lot of ways, the
model and the spending is what they were accused of
for since we know about the Yankees, basically from the
seventies Ons and Steinbrenners took over. They were accused of
(20:31):
being the evil Empire, spending more money than everybody else.
And all of a sudden, now when somebody's doing it
not only spending as you're spending, but also organization wise,
are better equipped at handling and run a better organization
than you. Now you're going to cry, oh, there's something
that needs to be discussed about this, or.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Is it fair?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And all those kind of things. Again, I'll pass it
on to Ed because that's what loser says that you go.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Losers say that all the time. You're losing. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Look if you're saying let's let's let's go lowball, let's say, okay,
they did make seven hundred and fifty minut' say they
made six hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Million, okay, apples and oranges.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, now you're pointing the blame, like Fred said,
because you're not doing a good job. It's your organization.
But somebody over here is doing a better job. And
now you're jealous, you know, and that comes down to jealousy. Hey,
you know, And I just feel like I don't I
don't like when they talk about, you know, putting a
cap on players. I mean, at any job anywhere, is
(21:34):
there a cap on how much you can If you're
a manager at say Walmart, is there a cap on
your salary? Is there a cap If you're the CEO
you know of Xerox, is there a cap on your salary? No?
I said, o'kay, they can cap these players. And another
thing is is that they making plenty of money. You know,
it's like football, right, you know how football? They like, oh,
we're we're not nigging no money, But you got you
(21:56):
got the gambling, you got everything. Of course they're making money.
They're just gonna say they're not. And you know, like
I tell you, the Dodgers is the most hated baseball
team in the world. Well, you know they are a
Major League Baseball Then then well on the net, then
came the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I think they came Boston, so you know, hey, they'll
point the finger. Job.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Can I say one more thing?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, well then I'll say go ahead. Now, if you
really think about Dodger expenses, let's think about it. They
have expenses too. For example, they have two planes. Now
now that's by their choice, but they have two planes.
They've remodeled the stadium numerous times. Those are expenses. I'm
(22:38):
sure there are things I have to pay to the
City of Los Angeles, taxes, things like that. Those are expenses.
All of those are expenses. I'm wondering why they're not
complaining about the expenses because they they And I'll guarantee
you this, Rodney, you correct me if I'm wrong. I
think they probably spend more organizationally in the operation of
(23:00):
the franchise than any team in Major League Baseball. Would
you agree to that percent Okay, I agree with that too.
What about those expenses don't they count?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That don't count to them. They're not looking at that
because you know why I paid. They're winning. When you're
winning that, you know, you just get nobody else can
take it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They win it.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Because they got all this money. That's why they win.
They're not making great they're not making great decisions. They
just got a lot of money. Think about the gods
that made great decisions on their.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Players, didn't they And even that correct me if I'm wrong.
Didn't they fly the staff to the World Series? Rodney?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes they did.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm talking about people that answer the phones and stuff
in sales and everybody. That's an expense, that's an you
know how expensive that is to fly that many people
and it's got to be over one hundred people.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I would think, yeah, that worked. There them to the
World Series, put them up and went to the game.
So yeah, that's a couple of million dollars. That's a
tremendous expense. And he complained that we made we revenue
with seven hundred million, but we have to put an
extra hundred minutes soil you made six hundred million.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Six Oh, woe is me? Really.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So let's say they spent four hundred million on their payroll.
Now they have two hundred million, and let's say to
operate the entire the rest of the entire franchise is
one hundred million. That means they have one hundred million
dollars basing it on if they made six What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Trust? They're not working out of the red trust me right, what.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Are you talking about? It's like they got their owns
the Cubs. Listen, we're just trying to break even.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
We're trying to break even. Well, that's your choice to
do it that way.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That's your choice. That's right, that's your You made that
decision to operate your business that way.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Do you guys know who Tatsuya Imai is?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Who is that?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
He is a flamethrowing right handed pitcher from Japan who
has just posted last week, And of course, whenever there's
a Japanese player who's posted, the immediate link.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Is to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yes, because of.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yamamoto and Otani and Sasaki and on and on and on.
So he actually did an interview with dis Ky Matsuzaka,
who apparently has his own podcast, and Diycek asked him, like, hey, well,
we have all of this Japanese flavor, as Victor Brick
would say, with the Dodgers, do you.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Have interest in going there?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
His quote, of course, I'd enjoy playing alongside those guys,
but winning against a team like that and becoming a
world champion would be the most valuable thing in my life.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
If anything, I'd rather take them down.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Do you appreciate the competitiveness in him because he can
jump aboard and go to a team that's won back
to back World series? But he says no, I actually
take more joy I've have taken an empire down than
jump on a board.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
First of all, much respect to him, I like it.
Second of all, he's well aware of the fact that
the Dodgers don't want it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Cause is that what that sounds?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's what it tells me. You know what, I'm gonna
take those guys down, will you better because they don't
want it? Because where are they gonna put you? But
I d respect that he said that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Rodney, I think part of that is right. Fred said,
you know when you find out, hey, well, it's like
you know when that that girl says he's not interested
in you say, well, I wasn't interested in you anyway,
you know, and so I think I didn't. I didn't
want your sorry ass anyway, So what you're talking about,
(26:24):
But yeah, it could be that for sure, that that
you know, they know that Dodgers are not going to
pay what he thinks he should be paid, or you know,
whatever other teams may be, you know, be paying for folks.
And it's got word out there out there that you know,
Dodgers are not going to really pursue him, that he's
come out and say, yeah, I'd rather take him down now,
trust me. If the Dodgers would have said, be very interested,
(26:46):
if they had the same interest as the Dodgers had
in Sazaki and Yamamoto, he was like, oh, it'd be
a dream for me to play for the Dodgers. Oh
my god, to play with Otani and Yamamoto and Sazaki
and and continue the leg you see him Japanese players
playing for the Dogs.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
He would be singing the praises. If the Dodgers were
adamantly out there saying we want this guy, we want
us to try to sign this guy. He's our he's
number one on our list, he would have a totally
different tune than he has right now.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It would be like, well, you think he wants to
go to the Rockies, Like, hey, I can't wait to
play for the Rockies. You know, so I could. I
could turn them around by myself. It don't work like
that in baseball. I mean, you got to have a
whole team of players. So I'm with you guys. You know,
the Dodgers, I don't know. Like I said, I don't know,
Dodgers must not want it. And that's that's a that's
(27:41):
a slap in the face. But I do like him
saying that. I mean, that shows how confidence you are.
But come on, man, you know baseball is not a
it's not a one man's sport.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
No sport is track and field. But you've got to
have you got to have a team. I mean, that's
like saying, man, I want to play for the Cleveland Browns,
but the Los Angeles rams on me. But now I
want to play for the Browns. Oh come on, don
you why you're gonna play for them?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
They say, sorry, Kevin didn't mention any other teams that
might be interested.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It did not not that I saw at least.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And is the guy with the podcast the third baseman
that's been posted.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
No, No, that's dice K Matsuzaka of the former the
former Major League Pitture.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
So the former picture the Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, So he had a podcast and he was a
guest on dice Case podcast.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
And since you guys brought up the Browns.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
To just a quick take on Shador Sanders debut against
the Raiders yesterday. Now we can say he was just
the Raiders, but still it wasn't his debut, but it
was his first start. He came off the bench last
week against Baltimore. But and I think for the most part,
I played pretty well against the Raiders yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What'd you guys think, Man.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is I look at it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know, they crucified and the first week he played,
and I'm like, yeah, I understand, you must understand this.
He hadn't played all year, and all of a sudden,
you throw him out there and he's he's supposed to
like four touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I saw some reporters and I see, this is why
he didn't go in the first round.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
This is why.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Man, that's one game. That's one football game. It's a
lot of football left you've got to give him a chance.
He's a he's a rookie.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
He's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
This is that was his first not even start, the
first time he got a chance to play, you know,
and he played pretty well last week, you know, so
against the Raiders. I mean they are the Raiders, but
still Raiders got a good, pretty good defense. And it
is the NFL. So I thought he played pretty good.
I mean, I really I think as time goes on,
hopefully plays better. But you know, Kevin Man, you go
to the Browns, it's just not it's not a good
(29:35):
place to go. I mean, to be honest with you,
I mean they look at all the first round draft
picks they've had, they had Baker Mayfield. I mean they've
had everybody and just ruined him.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, NFL's NFL. You know, the team is
two and nine. They still got good players. Eric mentioned,
they still got you know, a pretty good defense. You
still got to play. You still got to compete. And and
he's he's a he's a he's a rookie, been thrust
into a situation where and as a backup, he doesn't
(30:07):
get up. Until last week, he didn't get any reps
in practice, you get the starters, get all the reps
and all the looks and all the prep time to
get ready for the game. And so this was the
first week he got that going into this Raider game.
He didn't have that when they played Baltimore and everybody
wanted to crucify him. Uh, he had it this week.
And to me, look, I think they should just riding
(30:31):
for the rest of the season because they got to
figure out what they're gonna do. They got to figure
out what they have. It's gonna be Gabriel. It's gonna
be him. But I think, you know, the fact that
Gabriel got hurt opened the door for them to say, Okay,
let's figure out if the door can be a NFL
quarterback unlet's just let him play the remainder of the season.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
And that's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Rodney Kevinsfanski said that this morning that he will be
quarterback one moving forward, even when Dylan Gabriel clears concussion protocol.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
And that's was lighting up the hills, that's winding up
that line.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
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All right, come on, we got a quick one today
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Famer Eric Dickerson on the four NFL Spotlight on a
beautiful man.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Hey, Hey, rd, and I got a question for you. Yeah,
it's just I mean, it's a football question. And I've
never asked a quarterback to sever you know when you know,
when the quarterbacks I come up to numbers like red
twenty six.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Y'all just picked numbers randomly. What it is? Sixty five?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, pretty random because it's not because you know, if
it's got a live color, you got a lot of
live number that means something. But when it's not and
it's just random, yeah, you get certain of it. I
was I was a blue eighty eight guy. I was
a blue eighty I was a blue eighty eight guy.
(32:41):
And I was a red ninety one. I was a
red ninety one guy. That was one of the number.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah. Funny, it was funny about that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Is that because even like kids when they watched and
even our j loved to watch Aaron Rodgers when he
was at Green Bay, and everything he said was three
nineteen three anything.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I always I always wondered that.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, you pick them at random, and then
you get caught up and you know when it's not
you know you're not changing the play.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You get caught up in the same things that you've
been yelling. So I was.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Always blue eighty eight blue. And sometimes you say it
emphatically like it really meant something.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It was like.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I did have one cat. Tim Harris used to play
for Green Bay. You used to say me, no, blue
eighty eight, ain't it ain't nothing. You said, ain't don't
mean Okay, you asked question.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
That's random. It's definitely rare. Yea. They're right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well, Eric, have a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Thank you too. Fraid you too, Ridey in your family.
Thanksgiving y'all. Bokay absolutely, oh you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Bye, all right, Ronnie, Kevin Grant, thank you for today
and Rodney. We're back tomorrow, sir
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