November 6, 2024 • 39 mins
Shohei Ohtani had shoulder surgery but should be good to go for Spring Training. Would you give Max Fried a 6-year, $150+ million contract?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Why did we go? Fred Rogan Rodney Peach on seventy
LA Sports Rodney, how are you today? Okay? Fred, how
are you doing well? Doing well? Believe yep, doing fine,
doing fine, New day. Let's go. Uh so, let's get
right to the Dodgers off the top of the show.
We've got a three hour show today. Benny Bon Senior
(00:22):
will be on the program during the one o'clock hour.
Dan Whykey will be along to talk about some Dodgers
during the two o'clock hour. I'm sorry, why did I
say Dodgers. My mind is always Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ask him about the Dodgers if we want.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But yeah, no, I could. I guess I could ask him,
But yeah, Lakers during the mind Yes, those Lakers, okay,
consistent Lakers. Yeah. Well, we'll get to that. So now
let's get to what I wanted to talk about off
the top today, the Dodgers show. Hey, O, Tani had
laboring surgery yesterday. I wasn't even aware of the fact
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that it was going to have surgery, were you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, I mean, it wasn't official. It didn't think he was.
But you know, when he did what he did and
they had to labor through the last three games of
the World Series. He figured something was going on that
was not just a little spring. So I'm sure that
they knew that going in, and he fought through it
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and now they're correct it. Good part is that it's
his left shoulder and not his right shoulder where he pitches.
Is supposed to pitch next year, so everything'll be fine. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Neil Alatrosh did the procedure, you know, and he's the
magic man. You go to Neil. I'm telling you, I
tried to hurt my knee so I could go to
Neil Alatrosh and apparently it worked. I went there and
they fixed it. But Neil's the very best. He did
the procedure yesterday and there were no complications, and he
is expected to be ready to go for spring training,
and as you said, Rodney, it's not going to affect
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his pitching at all. Is really crazy when you think
about it, because the Dodgers now have another starter already there.
They don't have to go out and sign him. They've
already got him. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You almost forgot because the year was so crazy and
so unbelievable, and the run and the ups and downs
and all of those things that uh, and then what
Otani did at the plate with fifty and fifty. He
almost forgot that he actually pitches too. I had to
keep remind I've been people, can well remember he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Pitch next year.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I was like, oh, yeah, right, he is a picture too,
But I had forgot about that because I'm so used
to seeing him dh and not really we didn't see
him on the mound. But that's a that's gonna be
a whole new situation that the Dodger fans get to
get used to next year.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
No, they have another starter right now. So right now
you have ya I'm Amoto class now, oh Tani, those
are your three. I guess that as long as glass
now is healthy, those are your starters. And now you
know five other people to pick from. And remember, next
year they're going to a six man rotation, so they
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will need more picture and have some guys coming off
of surgery, right Dustin May Gonsolin. Gonsolin will be back,
so they're gonna have a plethora of guys to choose from.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Even's gonna be on a limit, by the way, because
he's coming off with a second Tommy John or is
Tommy John revision, whatever you want to call it, but
he's gonna be on some sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think, yeah, for sure, and I think that it's
the Dodgers will well. You know, again, it all comes
back to injury and how healthy guys are. But with
the names that we just talked about, the Dodgers should
have the luxury of as you mentioned Kevin, the restriction
that Otani's gonna have. Yamamoto right, you know, we know
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about his rest situation. I don't know if that changes
or stays the same, that he's got to go in
six days, and then how they adjust with with tider
Glas given what happened this past season of him going
more indings than he's ever gone before and then wasn't
available for the for the playoffs, I'm sure there's gonna
be many conversations to about him and how they utilize
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tyder Glass now, because you know, for most of the
season he was their guy.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He was the ace.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
He was the one that stopped the bleeding, and he
was the one that you could try it out there
and feel pretty good about it. And had he been healthy,
he would have been the ace of this staff. Pitching
in Game one or pitching in Game seven or any
deciding game if you needed it to. So they're gonna
probably make some adjustments to how they use Tyder Glass
now as well.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, look, we learned from the playoffs this year, and
it was a fascinating exercise. What we learned is that
you need enough guys to get through the year, and
then at the end you need enough guys that are healthy.
That's what we learned. You need enough guys to get
you through the season, and then at the end, you
need enough guys that are healthy. Hoping the bullpen is
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as good as it was this year what we learned,
so they could have a ton of starting pitching, a
ton of starting pitching. I mean, Emma Sheen, I think
he should be ready. They could throw him into the mix.
Gavin Stone, is he coming back?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yep, he should be ready to you hope that Bobby
Miller fixes whatever issues plagued him towards the end season.
They were counting on him to be key part of
the rotation this.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Year because he's he's when he's you know, remember he
burst on the scene.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
He's got electric stuff. So if he can get back
to form and get his confidence back, Bobby Miller is
a guy that could be you technically, could you know,
evolve into an eight type of player with the stuff
that he has. So you got him coming back as well.
There's seven guys. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be uh, they're
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gonna be all right. And what if they signed Walker Buhler.
There's eight guys mm hmm. Suddenly and then the word
is right. They're getting that kid that that local kid
that that that went astray to UH to Atlanta for
a few years. They might get that kid coming back
to UH to Los Angeles. You know, the Harvard Westlake kid,
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the lefty that we talked about the other day. So
let's get into that Max Free. That's you know, two
major rumors today, two major you know hot stove rumors.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
One of them is Max Free. Reports are some project
that he will sign a six year, one hundred and
fifty six million dollar deal with the Dodgers. Six years,
one hundred and fifty six million. Oh, that's above your
that's above your pay grade.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fred, I don't know if you're gonna You're not gonna
you're gonna reject that deal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You're going to reject that in the heartbeat. I'm gonna
reject you. I'm gonna reject that deal. That's right, I am.
I'm gonna reject it. It's too many years. So what
that would be is they would pay him if they
did that, twenty six million dollars a year. Yeah, for
a guy like that. Pretty that's reasonable. That's a reasonable
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for for a Max Free coming home.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Lefty an Ace kind of kind of picture man, you know,
And and like it's amazing how people get these numbers
and they talk about things that are happening, and a
lot of times it's amazing how accurate.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They are.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But to pull that number out like out of the air.
They didn't say, you know, Dodgers looking at signing Max
Freed for a six year deal and just leave it
at that, or you know, a six year deal in
that one fifty to one seventy range.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's what they're looking to do for Max Free, Like
six years, one fifty six.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like they knew something, Like they talked to somebody, like
we got the story already. This is what they're going
to offer Max Free, six years, one fifty six. You know,
that wasn't really like an easy round number that they
threw out there. It was one fifty six and if
that one not one forty one fifty six.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And if that's the case, if that really is the case,
somebody talked, then somebody knows, right, somebody knows. Yeah, if
it's that specific, it'll be funny to see if it
plays out that way because somebody knows and just dropped
it in there. Twenty six million a year. What do
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you think of that, Rodney? I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You know, I'm a fan of Max Freed from his
Encino Little League days. I've been a fan of Max Freed,
so I like him. I still think he's got a
lot of years left. What is he now, twenty eight,
something like twenty nine, maybe twenty yeah, twenty yeah, something
like that, in late twenties.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If if thirty's thirty thirty, yes, he's exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, exactly thirty six years he's going to thirty six. Yeah, yeah,
I'm okay with that. Yes, I am Fred, Yes, I
am all right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So if you're good with that, what you're in essence
doing is telling Walker Buller goodbye, thank you for your
time here. But he will go No, you're not sure.
Are no, you're not sure, are no, you're not here.
You are we're the Dodgers, remember, and you're gonna think
Blake Dodgers. You're gonna think Blake snow for his interest, Well,
(09:15):
it's either that one is definitely either or it's either
Blake Snell or Max Free. You can't you can't get
them both, you know. So you're you're choosing one of
the one or the other. Now, in terms of Walker Buehler,
they still can't get him. They still can't bring him back.
He's a righty. They've got argument there, righty, lefty. Uh
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so you still got the argument, and you still got
deep pockets. And that that deal for Max Free, it's
not a killer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's not a three hundred and twenty five to ten
year deal like Yamamoto saying, that allows you to sign
Walker Butler back. Even if it's signing Walker Buler back on.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
A one year deal. Oh for two year deal. One here,
all that's done. One year. You got him. If Walker
re bueller but you said yesterday, he's not gonna do that.
He's not. But if there's no takers out there, there's
no interest out there, I think he would. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They told him to go test the market and the
market may come back and say we're not interested.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We need to see more.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You were great in the World Series and playoffs, but
you struggled in the regular season. We need to see
another year for us to invest multiple years with you
and pay that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, you know, we'll sign you to a one year deal.
Some other team may say that. And if I'm Walker,
I'm saying no, if I signed a one year deal,
I'm coming back to the Dodgers. Dodgers could easily sign him. Yes,
yesterday they did Tail. They offered him right. Well, we're
going to get to Tail in a minute. But what
(10:50):
I suggested yesterday about Walker Bueller and you what, I
don't think so signed a three year deal. Ge him
an opt out after year two. So if he if
he's you said here one, well, give hi an opt
out after year one. I don't care. That's fine. I do.
Give him an opt out, get him, get him on
the get him on the docket, and then give him
an opt out. So if he performs, he gets paid more. Now,
(11:12):
in that situation, I think you can afford Max Freed
if in fact he's going to get six years for
one hundred and fifty six million dollars from the Dodgers.
You can also pay Walker Bueller, that's not a problem.
Clinton Kershaw was not getting paid what he did. We
don't even know. We don't get paid. You know what.
Well he was at five million dollars Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
with a sentence to make up to twenty that's not
gonna happen. So you could definitely do that, Bueler, short term, freed,
(11:38):
long term. Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, yes you can. Yes,
you can't. And didn you know what, let's get ready
for another parade. Let's get ready for another parade, baby, Well,
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and then you have the young Japanese picture if he
comes out. Yes, I didn't even know about this kid,
did you I heard about him people in the no. No,
I didn't. Yeah, people in the no. No. I heard
about it last week. And the thing about that is
he's gonna be well, he's gonna be like a Yamamoto guy. Yeah.
(12:20):
And I don't think you can give another picture ten years. No,
I don't think you can. I don't think you can.
I think the Yamamoto before they do that again, they're
gonna it's gonna be a few years because I think
they got to see how Yamamoto plays out, Well, this
is he finished.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This Sasaki kid is twenty three, so he's not at
twenty age twenty five yet. So under MB rules, he
can't sign as a free agent like Yamamoto. He would
have to sign, yeah, using international pool money, and he'd
basically sign a minor league contract or a standard contract.
It would not be like open the bidding war like
it was for Yoshi the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Sag Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be like like O
Tani right correct. Yeah, he couldn't sign for big money.
I think he was like two million or something like
that when he first came to the Angels because he
was so young. So you don't have to break the
bank with this young kid. So that that changes the game, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So the guy, the young kid, gets to pick what
Timmy goes to. Is that how it works?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Heaven, y'ah, I believe. So there's the posting fee that
you have to pay, and he can still go to
wherever he wants to go to, but he can't sign
a massive free agent contract because he's not twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, so if he waits a year and then comes which.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Has been the rumor, rod and he's like whether or not,
there's people are speculating that he's going to decide to
come this year. There's still a chance that he doesn't,
and many people are pointing to the fact that if
he waits another year, that he can, you know, basically
pick where he wants to go and pick however much
money he wants to make.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, what would you do? Would you get here now
or would you wait that year and sign a ten
year deal in a year? He can sign a ten
year deal right in a year?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, but he got to stay in Japan for another year?
Or do you come to the big leagues right now
sign what you didn't have to sign a multi year deal?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Does he? Kevin?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He can sign a one year deal for to whatever
the minimum or the maximum he can sign for.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That sure as far as how long he can sign
a contract for, but there's a limit how much he
can actually make, which I think is around two and
a half three million dollars something like that per year.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So you come sign a one year, two and a
half million dollar deal, Fred, be here in the States,
you know, and then and then go, you know, go
sign your big deal. The problem with that is you're
on everybody's radar right now.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You come to the States, and you struggle in that
first year, then that ten year, eight year offer deal,
you know, you just jeopardize that. That's exactly what I
was thinking. Don't expose yourself too soon. Yeah, you know,
you've got time do what you're doing there. If that's
the case, wait another year, then come over and cash in,
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because you don't know what'll happen. You can come here,
blow your arm out, that'll be it. That'll be it,
or you get lit up all season long and you're like, oh,
he's not the guy we thought he was. He was
great in Japan, but not here, and all of a
sudden your market is gone. So yeah, the smart thing
would be to just stay there one more year. All right. So,
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if in fact, the Dodgers are going to pay match
for you one hundred and fifty six million dollars over
six years, do we believe that, that's the question. Do
we believe that? Well, if you believe that, then do
you believe this, because here's another report about to ask
Hernandez Tigers would step up three years twenty a year
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now that that's been reported, Tigers are ready to go
three years twenty a year. If that's the case, and
that's the best offer he's got. The Dodgers should sign
him immediately because they will do that. If that's gonna
be the same best all saint to the same deal
that three years sixty million dollars or sign a one
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year deal. No, sign him to the three year. Yes,
I would even sweeten it. Okay, three year. He went
for you, three years sixty million, We'll give you three
year sixty five million. Come here and sign it right now.
Sweeten it a little bit, just give him a little love.
Sign it right now. That's exactly what I do. Yea
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tires offering that. Come on, come on back, We'll make
that happen. I would do that in hard be too. Yeah,
that's that's an a brainer to me. Yeah, because you
already I mean you already offered him twenty one million.
You know, I know, I'll be it for one year.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But if you're you're offering him twenty one million for
one year, you got to expect to pay him that
again the next year if you're gonna sign him, So
why not lock it up for three years and do
it sixty million dollars deal.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
To me, that's that's just simple to me. You gotta
do that you gotta do that. All right, Let's open
the phone lines at eight six six nine eighty seven
two five seventy double fisted question? Do what do for one?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ask them one question?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Please, Kevin, yell one.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You got people stand on for thirty minutes trying to
get their questions out.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
All right? You know so I think we all agree
that three years, sixty million dollars you do that deal
for Hernandez. Right, that's ain't even any discussion. Is it
not for me? Not for me? Not for me either, Kevin?
Is that a discussion for you?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I highly doubt it. No, absolutely not, no.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Son. Let's talk about Max Freed. Jesus one question? Okay,
Max Freed? All right, Uh, they're gonna pay him like
twenty seven million a year for six years. Would you
sign him to a six year deal? All right? Well
what did the fans think? Eight six six nine eighty
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seven two five seventy thirty years old? Yeah, I'll do it,
all right, Let's keep it moving on a hop day.
Rodey Pete, fred Rogan and yes, yes, Freddie, pay Max Free,
bring him here, bring him home, bring him home. I
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understand you want him to come home. I know you
you always get this way this time of the year.
You do you, you do? I do? You get really
excited about opportunities to go get guys and bring them
home and lock them up. I'm not sure that's always
the best business practice, but you get excited every year
at this time about doing I do I do I
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exactly that. So it's like it's, uh, I'm using the
unlimited checkbook that that Mark Walters and Gouggenheim have to
play Fantasy Baseball. Let's do it. Yeah, you're solid at
then uh huh uh huh. Let's just find out what
a couple of people think on the app In Knoxville, Tennessee.
Here comes Jesse and Jesse six one hundred and fifty
(19:11):
six for Max Freed. What say you?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
If he's healthy, I say, bring him over here, man,
I mean, hell, the picture when he's healthy. Guy, I
admit it, guys, and we need pictures.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's about.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah. I mean, we we did very well to get
done what we got done this year with the starting
pictures we had. And yeah, I know we got some
young arms in the system, but really, man, an influx
of proven pictures like that, and we're gonna have another parade.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
If we do that, all right, appreciate it. Thanks Jesse
on the app. Let's go to Lancaster. Nick, Now you
do not think they should sign him?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
No, absolutely not. I don't think we should sign them
at all.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Okay, why?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Okay, So we just won the World Championship with the
pitches that we had about three starters, all our rotation
pretty much went out and we were able to win
that championship against the hardest people. And what she got
was saying about, we have all the people that we
had hurt coming back next year, we're gonna have more
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than they starting pitching for them to get the job
done again in twenty twenty five. Even if they're gonna
be on a any limit pitch count, whatever you want
to call it, six man rotation, I think it's gonna
be easier.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
For us next year.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
All right, appreciate that. Thanks Nick. Let's go into La
to Jack. Jack you seem to agree with Nick. You say, no,
I'm Max re Reid.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, I agree, and I just want to say I
appreciate you guys. I was laid off today, so I
got a lot of time to.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Listen to you.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
But hey, it's okay. Yeah, I mean, I agree with
the last guy. I think we've got so many people
coming back, I don't know if we need it. I
kind of want to run it back with the amazing
team that we have and kind of see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
To be honest, Jack appreciate that. Here's the deal. I
think the Dodgers pretty much want to run it back
as well, because they feel pretty solid. But you've always
got some things you need to improve. I think it's
very rare that the exact same thing happens twice in
a row with the exact same people. So I think
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you always got a lot to improve. You always have
to try to be better. You've always got to plug
a hole here, plug a hole there, And if you
can improve yourself from a pitching perspective, then you probably should.
But the question again becomes for how long and at
what cost? This is a long deal for a pitcher.
Tyler Glasnow had a five year deal, all right, one
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He didn't finish your one, so really, at the end
of it, sure he was good during the regular season,
he got you wins when you needed them, but at
the end he wasn't there. So you can either stock
up on a bunch of guys and hope X numbers
survive to the end. Or what you can do is
go short term deals, get what you can out of people,
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pay them, compensate them, and then move on. I think
I'm more a fan of that. And I remember when
the Dodgers went through their reclamation Pitcher project days. You know,
this guy we know is pretty good now granted he
only has you know, one finger, but we'll attach the
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other ones and get him back healthy and he'll be
ready to go. I mean they went through that period
of time. What was his name, Duffy. I don't think
he ever pitched for the Dodgers. Duffy went two years,
Duffy didn't What was the one guy they went and
got to, uh big Fellow? He had a great like
word series or playoff run before the year before Dodger
went got him and didn't do anything for us. Right,
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So they were really good on that, I can opinion.
I forget his name, and they paid guys. Yeah, they
paid him. They didn't care, just hoping. I don't think
we do that again. I think we're past that point now.
But I just don't know if a six year deal
and again it's not my money and they'll do what
they think is best. I don't know. I don't know.
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All right, let's go with Circus and Santa Clarita. Sarcus,
appreciate your holding. What do you think?
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm a solid note on Max Freet. I'm using
that money to go get Tailback and Kik And look,
this front office has shown they can go back and
trade deadline, get a pickup, pitching whatever they need and
do it that way, just like we did this year.
I'm saying absolutely not to Max Street guys.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, thanks, Sarcus. Let's go down to Anaheim. David, what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Come about Freed? I say, no one, Max Free.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, Well he got that part and then we lost.
Huh So he said no one Max Freed he's back. Okay, yeah,
hear me. Yah gotcha?
Speaker 9 (24:16):
You said no, Okay, I said no, you got glassed
out first show. And Yamamoto, we're gonna be part time
because they're injury prone. Why are you going to bring
another injury probe pitture to do that? May he signed
someone like Flattery, someone that comes in and put some
Indians in there.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think that's what they need.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks David, Let's go to Uh
it's got a Gill and Aliso Viejo. Hey, Gil, are
you signing Max Freed for six years or not? No?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I would keep a Bueller whatever it takes for a year, whatever,
two years, and keep the other pieces, keep both of
the Hernandez and keep Trennan. Uh, you know, keep all
those four guys and don't even don't even miss. That's
something that did work.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hm. No, it definitely worked. Appreciate it. Skill trying is
not up though, is he or is he? Yeah? Guy
to get him coming back? Yeah, but then what if
somebody gives them four years? That's the danger here. See,
that's the danger with all of this. Yeah. See I
can't Yeah, you can't match the four year deal. I
(25:28):
don't think you can match a three year deal, to
be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I just think that you know, they I wouldn't say
go lucky because they played it right and they had
the right guys in the bullpen. That worked out for
the Dodgers. But you can't make that a steady diet
of That's how you're gonna go into a season. We're
gonna you know, we're gonna have a number of bullpen games,
and that's how we're gonna survive.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It. Just you play that play that role too often,
it's going to come back to bite you. And you've
got to have you do still have to have quality
starting pitching. That's why I think, you know, having Max
Freed a part of the rotation makes you so strong
going forward. All let's go up to the app in Oregon, Jack, Jack,
thanks for holding up there. Man. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (26:12):
Hey, Fred Radney, thanks for taking my call. Guys, I
think locked now, the price is only going to go up. Yeah,
they got to build right now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
For the future.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
That locks some good another another horse in there with
Flaherty and get Bueller signed. And I don't think there's
been a tougher guy that they've had in their lineup
recently then ti Oscar Hernandez and I agree with Rodney.
They got to lock him up for a few years
and give him a little kiss, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, yes, see smart man right there, smart man. And
he's right about that.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And I said that all day yesterday, is that these
prices are always going to go up. Today's price is
not tomorrow's price. And and so you know, locking a
guy up like free, locking a guy like Tao, to me,
a smart move because the dollars are only gonna go up.
You sign him to a one year deal, meaning Tao,
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and then he goes and goes off for you. Then
he's gonna want thirty million, and then he may get
offered that for some other team where you could have
locked him up for twenty one, twenty two may so,
and then same thing with you know, Max Freee, thirty
years old.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
He's shown that he can be lights out when he's
on the hill. Go get him locked up. Go get
him locked up for six. He can even move to
the bullpen for you at the last two if you
need him too. All right, it's go to la Bill,
move to the bullpen. Bill, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
What do you think would not I would not sign Freed.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I'd go after Corbyn Burns instead.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, no injury history, no injury history, all right, Bill. Yeah,
we're not gonna play fantasy baseball because that hadn't been reported. Yeah,
you know what, I go after Corbyn Burns too. You're right,
you're right, that's who you would go after. But that
wasn't the report. The report was Freed. Okay.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I would not sign Freed.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
His injury history is too great.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
We already have injured pictures. All right, thanks Bill? Yeah, yeah,
Corbyn Burns is available. This is great. I like when
we play fantasy baseball. You do. That's the best. We'll
take him and we'll go get it. Yeah, we'll trade
for this guy and trade guy I mean up for
a contract. Let's go trade for that guy. No, yeah,
let's get him. Yeah, let's go to Monrovia. Mark, thanks
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for holding. Are you gonna sign freed or not?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Fred?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's twenty one million one year. We don't sign length
week contracts with any pictures. You know that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Bananas. I don't know it's a bargain. Your three gonna
look up as a bargain. Got him for a bargain.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Kidding me. I understand, Rodney, but I don't think you
need him for six year. I got him for it.
I don't know why you do this. I have no
idea why you do this. I got him for a
bar I went not talking ten year Yamamoto deal.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
We're talking six years. He'll give you four and a
half great ones. Okay, then you pull and move him
to the bullpen. Oh that to be perfect. That six
years and then there's that dead money that we talked
about yesterday. No, he comes out of that pin for
you being really good. Oh, he's going to be good
coming out of this. Yes, okay, lefty with nasty stuff
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coming out of the pen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Are you kidding me? Okay, all right, why do you
say he won't be good coming out of pin. I'm
saying I'm not going I'm saying I'm not gonna project
down the road where Max Freed, who may or may
not be injury free, ends up in the bullpen and
he's going to be a complete start. I can't I
can't have forecast that, or.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
At least four I've said, at the worst Canario scenario,
he moves to the pin for you because you've developed
the guys that have come back, and Dustin may has
shown his stuff and and uh you know Yamamoto is
the true as and and you got other guys.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
But man, yes, yes, get that horse. Okay, So for
four years, for two years, you're you're paying that horse
one year for one year, yeah, okay, So for one
year you're paying that horse who is now out in
the pasture twenty six million dollars for that pasture. How
how important was that pen for the Dodgers this year? Huh?
(30:30):
I want to talk about that? Yeah? What were six
million dollars this year? What what were lever made twenty
six million? When this series they don't have that pen.
I'm saying he's going there.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm saying that's a that's a that's an option you
could technically have at the last year of his contract.
If he's not gonna be one of your starters, he
can certainly move to the pen and be effected.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm saying that's the plan. Friend. I'm just saying, that's
an option. Got it? Oh? I hear you? I got
it all right. I want you to think about this
in the break and you might have to go a
little deeper on it in your thought process. Do you
a want to live along life or being have a
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lot of friends? We will talk about it. Yeah, Today's
afternoon Delight. It's catch Fire.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The song is one of eight tracks that appears on
the rappers new mixtape, It's Had a Dois and Octave,
which dropped over the weekend to catch Fire. Cover art
features the surreal photo of Kodak Black's actual car in
flames after the gas line started leaking on the Highway,
an incident that took place while the rap star was
(31:50):
filming his first live.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Stream Wow Again. Today's afternoon delight is catch Fire by
Kodak Black. Let's go Freddy, All right, let's do it.
Next hour, Vindie bon Signor jumps on the program. Let's
talk to NFL two o'clock hour. Dan Wiki will be
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here and we'll get into the NBA, specifically the uh,
the very excited three and oh Lakers own not so
much anymore? Oh, why why a you gotta do that? Well,
it's true, it's just true. I guess anytime you trumpet,
anytime you trumpet, I can't remember the last time we've
been three? And oh, if you're a good team, you
should expect to be three and oh you might not be,
(32:34):
but it wouldn't be surprising if you were. Who said,
I can't remember the last time we were three at all?
Oh no, it was all the news reports. It has
been this long since. While you're blaming the Lakers for
saying that, no, please, oh, please come on.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, the team didn't say anything. It was news outlets
and stat folks and people like that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, well nobody.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The team did a whole thing on Twitter or Instagram
and put up a band. We're three and oh the first.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Exactly? They didn't do it. Fred, Why are you holding
that against them? I'm not. I'm just saying that was
a story line. You are? You are, Fred, I'm not
holding it against it. I'm not doing it when you can.
Why do you Why do you always say that because
you just did? Okay? So why else do you always
say that? Because it's true while you're yelling at me,
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not because the day you deserve it? Fredd? Okay, everybody
must answer this on their own. What do you want
to do? Do you want to have a lot of
friends or live longer? What do you want to do? Rodney?
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What do you want? Is that a question? Is that
a rhetorical question? Is a real question? I want as
well as I can. I want to live as long
as I can.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You? Wait, if you had fewer friends, you'd be fine,
if you could live as long as you could. Yes, absolutely,
very good. You know a lot of friends is overrated,
that's true. Sure, well listen, don't I know that? All right? Kevin?
What would you prefer?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Live as long as I can? Fred? That's an easy
one for me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, Ronnie would you echo Kevin's sentiment? I sure would, Fred. Okay,
So here's why, because you know, I look up stuff
all the time, and this is an interesting study. Uh,
keeping a small circle of friends helps you avoid drama,
and if you're a monkey, it keeps you from getting ill.
So here's what researchers did. They did this experiment with monkeys.
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Now we've talked about monkeys in the past. Rodney is
terrified of monkeys and one hit me in the mouth
at one point. So neither one of us are really
fond of monkeys. No, not, But that's how the survey
was constructed.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What Kevin, somebody threw a monkey at you, right.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And then somebody threw them monkey that was a different.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Monkey than the monkey that punched you right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, the monkey didn't punch me, just slapped me real hard.
The monkey bitch lapt you, Fred. That's what the monkey did.
That's exactly what the monkey did. But the troubling part
of the other monkey, and you know, looks every monkey
has to make a living. But the other monkey really
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needed a bath. The one that is, Rodney would say,
bitch slapped me. At least had better hygiene then the
monkey that was thrown at me. They all need better hygiene.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's just the severity of it, right, Yeah, most monkeys
they don't smell very good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Right and I and I don't know why they didn't
include that in the survey. Why don't monkeys bathe more? Anyway?
So what they did is they did this research project
with monkeys, and here's what they found. They found that
monkeys who were alone or had a very small group
of monkey friends. And I don't you know, so you
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can have like two monkey friends, you have two monkey friends.
They avoided drama because monkeys have drama too. You don't
realize that. And apparently the researchers determine that. So the
monkeys with fewer friends were also what exposed to less
the possibility of illness, the possibility of disease. Those monkeys
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lived longer than monkeys who were just out in the world.
We'll call those world monkeys. They were just out in
the world. So researchers are now trying to apply this
to human beings. So the determination is this, if you
want to live a long time, basically, lock yourself in
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your house or in an enclosed area. You can open
the window a little bit so you can get some mirror,
but try to avoid all people. And if you do that,
according to this survey, you will live a long time. Now,
you won't have a lot of human interaction because you
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don't need any drama because that stresses you out.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, but doesn't that I mean, Okay, you eliminated one issue,
but you created another one, right because loneliness and not
having a lot of friends or any friends, then that
put you in a depressed state, doesn't it right?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Right? But if you were in a depressed state and
didn't have a lot of friends, you'd live a long
time in a depressed state. And you would keep those
thoughts to yourself because if you told somebody else, you
would stress them out.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
No, I think you just die sooner, Fred, I think
is how that works?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
What happens?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I think you would just die sooner if you're lonely
and depressed. They've done studies on humans. If you don't
have human interaction and you're sitting around not doing anything, yeah,
you'd absolutely die sooner.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Body shuts down. Okay, well I hear both of you.
Thank you, doctors. I'm reading a survey. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Why listen to the studies on the humans let's go
to the study on the monkeys that makes it for.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Your research paper from Psychology. Today, I'm reading somebody, did
you know? Did you know? Junior year usc there you go.
You were the Psychology magazine Man of the month one time.
I know. If this research, which is applied to monkeys
is applicable to humans, you should keep that in mind.
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That's all I'm saying to your friends. You're a monkey friends, right, Well, first,
I don't have any monkey friends, so that's one thing.
Of course. Not monkey don't like you. No, well they
don't know. They really don't. As a matter of fact.
After reading this, and I'm glad we talked about it,
neither one of you gave me any help. But this
is actually a survey, a research paper. I think I'm
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gonna go back to the condo when I'm done here,
locked the door and not come out again. That's what
I'm gonna do. I will not come out, you promise.
That's enough, Ronnie. And that's why I don't need friends
like you. You said we were friends. Yeah, wait, right
there it is. That's exactly what this paper is talking about.
Now you're giving me drama if I'm a monkey. And
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now I'm not good. I'm very stressed. Now now you're stressed,
and stress leads uh, heart problems and other problems. So
now it's now it's a total bad thing for you, Fred.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
But you know what, Fred, you won't be around people,
so you won't get ahead cold. So there you go, perfect, gone,
get out.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay. If you'd like to comment on the survey later
in the show, feel free to do. So. It's got
some football in here. How about those? Do you like football?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
How about those rail I still got a baseball kind
of hangover right now, do you Yeah, I'm still looking
at baseball stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Whatever. Hey, you know what, let's do, Lenning, Let's talk
a little football. Will come back and do more Dodgers. Yeah, okay,
Why did we go? Fred Rogan Rodney Peach on seventy
LA Sports Rodney, how are you today? Okay? Fred, how
are you doing well? Doing well? Believe yep, doing fine,
doing fine, New day. Let's go. Uh so, let's get
right to the Dodgers off the top of the show.
We've got a three hour show today. Benny Bon Senior
(00:22):
will be on the program during the one o'clock hour.
Dan Whykey will be along to talk about some Dodgers
during the two o'clock hour. I'm sorry, why did I
say Dodgers. My mind is always Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ask him about the Dodgers if we want.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But yeah, no, I could. I guess I could ask him,
But yeah, Lakers during the mind Yes, those Lakers, okay,
consistent Lakers. Yeah. Well, we'll get to that. So now
let's get to what I wanted to talk about off
the top today, the Dodgers show. Hey, O, Tani had
laboring surgery yesterday. I wasn't even aware of the fact
(00:55):
that it was going to have surgery, were you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, I mean, it wasn't official. It didn't think he was.
But you know, when he did what he did and
they had to labor through the last three games of
the World Series. He figured something was going on that
was not just a little spring. So I'm sure that
they knew that going in, and he fought through it
(01:22):
and now they're correct it. Good part is that it's
his left shoulder and not his right shoulder where he pitches.
Is supposed to pitch next year, so everything'll be fine. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Neil Alatrosh did the procedure, you know, and he's the
magic man. You go to Neil. I'm telling you, I
tried to hurt my knee so I could go to
Neil Alatrosh and apparently it worked. I went there and
they fixed it. But Neil's the very best. He did
the procedure yesterday and there were no complications, and he
is expected to be ready to go for spring training,
and as you said, Rodney, it's not going to affect
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his pitching at all. Is really crazy when you think
about it, because the Dodgers now have another starter already there.
They don't have to go out and sign him. They've
already got him. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You almost forgot because the year was so crazy and
so unbelievable, and the run and the ups and downs
and all of those things that uh, and then what
Otani did at the plate with fifty and fifty. He
almost forgot that he actually pitches too. I had to
keep remind I've been people, can well remember he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Pitch next year.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I was like, oh, yeah, right, he is a picture too,
But I had forgot about that because I'm so used
to seeing him dh and not really we didn't see
him on the mound. But that's a that's gonna be
a whole new situation that the Dodger fans get to
get used to next year.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
No, they have another starter right now. So right now
you have ya I'm Amoto class now, oh Tani, those
are your three. I guess that as long as glass
now is healthy, those are your starters. And now you
know five other people to pick from. And remember, next
year they're going to a six man rotation, so they
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will need more picture and have some guys coming off
of surgery, right Dustin May Gonsolin. Gonsolin will be back,
so they're gonna have a plethora of guys to choose from.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Even's gonna be on a limit, by the way, because
he's coming off with a second Tommy John or is
Tommy John revision, whatever you want to call it, but
he's gonna be on some sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think, yeah, for sure, and I think that it's
the Dodgers will well. You know, again, it all comes
back to injury and how healthy guys are. But with
the names that we just talked about, the Dodgers should
have the luxury of as you mentioned Kevin, the restriction
that Otani's gonna have. Yamamoto right, you know, we know
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about his rest situation. I don't know if that changes
or stays the same, that he's got to go in
six days, and then how they adjust with with tider
Glas given what happened this past season of him going
more indings than he's ever gone before and then wasn't
available for the for the playoffs, I'm sure there's gonna
be many conversations to about him and how they utilize
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tyder Glass now, because you know, for most of the
season he was their guy.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He was the ace.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
He was the one that stopped the bleeding, and he
was the one that you could try it out there
and feel pretty good about it. And had he been healthy,
he would have been the ace of this staff. Pitching
in Game one or pitching in Game seven or any
deciding game if you needed it to. So they're gonna
probably make some adjustments to how they use Tyder Glass
now as well.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, look, we learned from the playoffs this year, and
it was a fascinating exercise. What we learned is that
you need enough guys to get through the year, and
then at the end you need enough guys that are healthy.
That's what we learned. You need enough guys to get
you through the season, and then at the end, you
need enough guys that are healthy. Hoping the bullpen is
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as good as it was this year what we learned,
so they could have a ton of starting pitching, a
ton of starting pitching. I mean, Emma Sheen, I think
he should be ready. They could throw him into the mix.
Gavin Stone, is he coming back?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yep, he should be ready to you hope that Bobby
Miller fixes whatever issues plagued him towards the end season.
They were counting on him to be key part of
the rotation this.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Year because he's he's when he's you know, remember he
burst on the scene.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
He's got electric stuff. So if he can get back
to form and get his confidence back, Bobby Miller is
a guy that could be you technically, could you know,
evolve into an eight type of player with the stuff
that he has. So you got him coming back as well.
There's seven guys. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be uh, they're
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gonna be all right. And what if they signed Walker Buhler.
There's eight guys mm hmm. Suddenly and then the word
is right. They're getting that kid that that local kid
that that that went astray to UH to Atlanta for
a few years. They might get that kid coming back
to UH to Los Angeles. You know, the Harvard Westlake kid,
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the lefty that we talked about the other day. So
let's get into that Max Free. That's you know, two
major rumors today, two major you know hot stove rumors.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
One of them is Max Free. Reports are some project
that he will sign a six year, one hundred and
fifty six million dollar deal with the Dodgers. Six years,
one hundred and fifty six million. Oh, that's above your
that's above your pay grade.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fred, I don't know if you're gonna You're not gonna
you're gonna reject that deal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You're going to reject that in the heartbeat. I'm gonna
reject you. I'm gonna reject that deal. That's right, I am.
I'm gonna reject it. It's too many years. So what
that would be is they would pay him if they
did that, twenty six million dollars a year. Yeah, for
a guy like that. Pretty that's reasonable. That's a reasonable
(07:01):
for for a Max Free coming home.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Lefty an Ace kind of kind of picture man, you know,
And and like it's amazing how people get these numbers
and they talk about things that are happening, and a
lot of times it's amazing how accurate.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They are.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But to pull that number out like out of the air.
They didn't say, you know, Dodgers looking at signing Max
Freed for a six year deal and just leave it
at that, or you know, a six year deal in
that one fifty to one seventy range.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's what they're looking to do for Max Free, Like
six years, one fifty six.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like they knew something, Like they talked to somebody, like
we got the story already. This is what they're going
to offer Max Free, six years, one fifty six. You know,
that wasn't really like an easy round number that they
threw out there. It was one fifty six and if
that one not one forty one fifty six.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And if that's the case, if that really is the case,
somebody talked, then somebody knows, right, somebody knows. Yeah, if
it's that specific, it'll be funny to see if it
plays out that way because somebody knows and just dropped
it in there. Twenty six million a year. What do
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you think of that, Rodney? I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You know, I'm a fan of Max Freed from his
Encino Little League days. I've been a fan of Max Freed,
so I like him. I still think he's got a
lot of years left. What is he now, twenty eight,
something like twenty nine, maybe twenty yeah, twenty yeah, something
like that, in late twenties.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If if thirty's thirty thirty, yes, he's exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, exactly thirty six years he's going to thirty six. Yeah, yeah,
I'm okay with that. Yes, I am Fred, Yes, I
am all right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So if you're good with that, what you're in essence
doing is telling Walker Buller goodbye, thank you for your
time here. But he will go No, you're not sure.
Are no, you're not sure, are no, you're not here.
You are we're the Dodgers, remember, and you're gonna think
Blake Dodgers. You're gonna think Blake snow for his interest, Well,
(09:15):
it's either that one is definitely either or it's either
Blake Snell or Max Free. You can't you can't get
them both, you know. So you're you're choosing one of
the one or the other. Now, in terms of Walker Buehler,
they still can't get him. They still can't bring him back.
He's a righty. They've got argument there, righty, lefty. Uh
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so you still got the argument, and you still got
deep pockets. And that that deal for Max Free, it's
not a killer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's not a three hundred and twenty five to ten
year deal like Yamamoto saying, that allows you to sign
Walker Butler back. Even if it's signing Walker Buler back on.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
A one year deal. Oh for two year deal. One here,
all that's done. One year. You got him. If Walker
re bueller but you said yesterday, he's not gonna do that.
He's not. But if there's no takers out there, there's
no interest out there, I think he would. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They told him to go test the market and the
market may come back and say we're not interested.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We need to see more.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You were great in the World Series and playoffs, but
you struggled in the regular season. We need to see
another year for us to invest multiple years with you
and pay that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, you know, we'll sign you to a one year deal.
Some other team may say that. And if I'm Walker,
I'm saying no, if I signed a one year deal,
I'm coming back to the Dodgers. Dodgers could easily sign him. Yes,
yesterday they did Tail. They offered him right. Well, we're
going to get to Tail in a minute. But what
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I suggested yesterday about Walker Bueller and you what, I
don't think so signed a three year deal. Ge him
an opt out after year two. So if he if
he's you said here one, well, give hi an opt
out after year one. I don't care. That's fine. I do.
Give him an opt out, get him, get him on
the get him on the docket, and then give him
an opt out. So if he performs, he gets paid more. Now,
(11:12):
in that situation, I think you can afford Max Freed
if in fact he's going to get six years for
one hundred and fifty six million dollars from the Dodgers.
You can also pay Walker Bueller, that's not a problem.
Clinton Kershaw was not getting paid what he did. We
don't even know. We don't get paid. You know what.
Well he was at five million dollars Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
with a sentence to make up to twenty that's not
gonna happen. So you could definitely do that, Bueler, short term, freed,
(11:38):
long term. Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, yes you can. Yes,
you can't. And didn you know what, let's get ready
for another parade. Let's get ready for another parade, baby, Well,
(12:00):
and then you have the young Japanese picture if he
comes out. Yes, I didn't even know about this kid,
did you I heard about him people in the no. No,
I didn't. Yeah, people in the no. No. I heard
about it last week. And the thing about that is
he's gonna be well, he's gonna be like a Yamamoto guy. Yeah.
(12:20):
And I don't think you can give another picture ten years. No,
I don't think you can. I don't think you can.
I think the Yamamoto before they do that again, they're
gonna it's gonna be a few years because I think
they got to see how Yamamoto plays out, Well, this
is he finished.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
This Sasaki kid is twenty three, so he's not at
twenty age twenty five yet. So under MB rules, he
can't sign as a free agent like Yamamoto. He would
have to sign, yeah, using international pool money, and he'd
basically sign a minor league contract or a standard contract.
It would not be like open the bidding war like
it was for Yoshi the.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Sag Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be like like O
Tani right correct. Yeah, he couldn't sign for big money.
I think he was like two million or something like
that when he first came to the Angels because he
was so young. So you don't have to break the
bank with this young kid. So that that changes the game, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So the guy, the young kid, gets to pick what
Timmy goes to. Is that how it works?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Heaven, y'ah, I believe. So there's the posting fee that
you have to pay, and he can still go to
wherever he wants to go to, but he can't sign
a massive free agent contract because he's not twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, so if he waits a year and then comes which.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Has been the rumor, rod and he's like whether or not,
there's people are speculating that he's going to decide to
come this year. There's still a chance that he doesn't,
and many people are pointing to the fact that if
he waits another year, that he can, you know, basically
pick where he wants to go and pick however much
money he wants to make.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, what would you do? Would you get here now
or would you wait that year and sign a ten
year deal in a year? He can sign a ten
year deal right in a year?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, but he got to stay in Japan for another year?
Or do you come to the big leagues right now
sign what you didn't have to sign a multi year deal?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Does he? Kevin?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He can sign a one year deal for to whatever
the minimum or the maximum he can sign for.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That sure as far as how long he can sign
a contract for, but there's a limit how much he
can actually make, which I think is around two and
a half three million dollars something like that per year.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So you come sign a one year, two and a
half million dollar deal, Fred, be here in the States,
you know, and then and then go, you know, go
sign your big deal. The problem with that is you're
on everybody's radar right now.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You come to the States, and you struggle in that
first year, then that ten year, eight year offer deal,
you know, you just jeopardize that. That's exactly what I
was thinking. Don't expose yourself too soon. Yeah, you know,
you've got time do what you're doing there. If that's
the case, wait another year, then come over and cash in,
(15:03):
because you don't know what'll happen. You can come here,
blow your arm out, that'll be it. That'll be it,
or you get lit up all season long and you're like, oh,
he's not the guy we thought he was. He was
great in Japan, but not here, and all of a
sudden your market is gone. So yeah, the smart thing
would be to just stay there one more year. All right. So,
(15:24):
if in fact, the Dodgers are going to pay match
for you one hundred and fifty six million dollars over
six years, do we believe that, that's the question. Do
we believe that? Well, if you believe that, then do
you believe this, because here's another report about to ask
Hernandez Tigers would step up three years twenty a year
(15:47):
now that that's been reported, Tigers are ready to go
three years twenty a year. If that's the case, and
that's the best offer he's got. The Dodgers should sign
him immediately because they will do that. If that's gonna
be the same best all saint to the same deal
that three years sixty million dollars or sign a one
(16:11):
year deal. No, sign him to the three year. Yes,
I would even sweeten it. Okay, three year. He went
for you, three years sixty million, We'll give you three
year sixty five million. Come here and sign it right now.
Sweeten it a little bit, just give him a little love.
Sign it right now. That's exactly what I do. Yea
(16:31):
tires offering that. Come on, come on back, We'll make
that happen. I would do that in hard be too. Yeah,
that's that's an a brainer to me. Yeah, because you
already I mean you already offered him twenty one million.
You know, I know, I'll be it for one year.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But if you're you're offering him twenty one million for
one year, you got to expect to pay him that
again the next year if you're gonna sign him, So
why not lock it up for three years and do
it sixty million dollars deal.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
To me, that's that's just simple to me. You gotta
do that you gotta do that. All right, Let's open
the phone lines at eight six six nine eighty seven
two five seventy double fisted question? Do what do for one?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ask them one question?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Please, Kevin, yell one.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You got people stand on for thirty minutes trying to
get their questions out.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
All right? You know so I think we all agree
that three years, sixty million dollars you do that deal
for Hernandez. Right, that's ain't even any discussion. Is it
not for me? Not for me? Not for me either, Kevin?
Is that a discussion for you?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I highly doubt it. No, absolutely not, no.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Son. Let's talk about Max Freed. Jesus one question? Okay,
Max Freed? All right, Uh, they're gonna pay him like
twenty seven million a year for six years. Would you
sign him to a six year deal? All right? Well
what did the fans think? Eight six six nine eighty
(18:05):
seven two five seventy thirty years old? Yeah, I'll do it,
all right, Let's keep it moving on a hop day.
Rodey Pete, fred Rogan and yes, yes, Freddie, pay Max Free,
bring him here, bring him home, bring him home. I
(18:27):
understand you want him to come home. I know you
you always get this way this time of the year.
You do you, you do? I do? You get really
excited about opportunities to go get guys and bring them
home and lock them up. I'm not sure that's always
the best business practice, but you get excited every year
at this time about doing I do I do I
(18:49):
exactly that. So it's like it's, uh, I'm using the
unlimited checkbook that that Mark Walters and Gouggenheim have to
play Fantasy Baseball. Let's do it. Yeah, you're solid at
then uh huh uh huh. Let's just find out what
a couple of people think on the app In Knoxville, Tennessee.
Here comes Jesse and Jesse six one hundred and fifty
(19:11):
six for Max Freed. What say you?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
If he's healthy, I say, bring him over here, man,
I mean, hell, the picture when he's healthy. Guy, I
admit it, guys, and we need pictures.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's about.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah. I mean, we we did very well to get
done what we got done this year with the starting
pictures we had. And yeah, I know we got some
young arms in the system, but really, man, an influx
of proven pictures like that, and we're gonna have another parade.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
If we do that, all right, appreciate it. Thanks Jesse
on the app. Let's go to Lancaster. Nick, Now you
do not think they should sign him?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
No, absolutely not. I don't think we should sign them
at all.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Okay, why?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Okay, So we just won the World Championship with the
pitches that we had about three starters, all our rotation
pretty much went out and we were able to win
that championship against the hardest people. And what she got
was saying about, we have all the people that we
had hurt coming back next year, we're gonna have more
(20:28):
than they starting pitching for them to get the job
done again in twenty twenty five. Even if they're gonna
be on a any limit pitch count, whatever you want
to call it, six man rotation, I think it's gonna
be easier.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
For us next year.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
All right, appreciate that. Thanks Nick. Let's go into La
to Jack. Jack you seem to agree with Nick. You say, no,
I'm Max re Reid.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, I agree, and I just want to say I
appreciate you guys. I was laid off today, so I
got a lot of time to.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Listen to you.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
But hey, it's okay. Yeah, I mean, I agree with
the last guy. I think we've got so many people
coming back, I don't know if we need it. I
kind of want to run it back with the amazing
team that we have and kind of see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
To be honest, Jack appreciate that. Here's the deal. I
think the Dodgers pretty much want to run it back
as well, because they feel pretty solid. But you've always
got some things you need to improve. I think it's
very rare that the exact same thing happens twice in
a row with the exact same people. So I think
(21:37):
you always got a lot to improve. You always have
to try to be better. You've always got to plug
a hole here, plug a hole there, And if you
can improve yourself from a pitching perspective, then you probably should.
But the question again becomes for how long and at
what cost? This is a long deal for a pitcher.
Tyler Glasnow had a five year deal, all right, one
(22:00):
He didn't finish your one, so really, at the end
of it, sure he was good during the regular season,
he got you wins when you needed them, but at
the end he wasn't there. So you can either stock
up on a bunch of guys and hope X numbers
survive to the end. Or what you can do is
go short term deals, get what you can out of people,
(22:23):
pay them, compensate them, and then move on. I think
I'm more a fan of that. And I remember when
the Dodgers went through their reclamation Pitcher project days. You know,
this guy we know is pretty good now granted he
only has you know, one finger, but we'll attach the
(22:43):
other ones and get him back healthy and he'll be
ready to go. I mean they went through that period
of time. What was his name, Duffy. I don't think
he ever pitched for the Dodgers. Duffy went two years,
Duffy didn't What was the one guy they went and
got to, uh big Fellow? He had a great like
word series or playoff run before the year before Dodger
went got him and didn't do anything for us. Right,
(23:06):
So they were really good on that, I can opinion.
I forget his name, and they paid guys. Yeah, they
paid him. They didn't care, just hoping. I don't think
we do that again. I think we're past that point now.
But I just don't know if a six year deal
and again it's not my money and they'll do what
they think is best. I don't know. I don't know.
(23:26):
All right, let's go with Circus and Santa Clarita. Sarcus,
appreciate your holding. What do you think?
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm a solid note on Max Freet. I'm using
that money to go get Tailback and Kik And look,
this front office has shown they can go back and
trade deadline, get a pickup, pitching whatever they need and
do it that way, just like we did this year.
I'm saying absolutely not to Max Street guys.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, thanks, Sarcus. Let's go down to Anaheim. David, what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Come about Freed? I say, no one, Max Free.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, Well he got that part and then we lost.
Huh So he said no one Max Freed he's back. Okay, yeah,
hear me. Yah gotcha?
Speaker 9 (24:16):
You said no, Okay, I said no, you got glassed
out first show. And Yamamoto, we're gonna be part time
because they're injury prone. Why are you going to bring
another injury probe pitture to do that? May he signed
someone like Flattery, someone that comes in and put some
Indians in there.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think that's what they need.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks David, Let's go to Uh
it's got a Gill and Aliso Viejo. Hey, Gil, are
you signing Max Freed for six years or not? No?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I would keep a Bueller whatever it takes for a year, whatever,
two years, and keep the other pieces, keep both of
the Hernandez and keep Trennan. Uh, you know, keep all
those four guys and don't even don't even miss. That's
something that did work.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hm. No, it definitely worked. Appreciate it. Skill trying is
not up though, is he or is he? Yeah? Guy
to get him coming back? Yeah, but then what if
somebody gives them four years? That's the danger here. See,
that's the danger with all of this. Yeah. See I
can't Yeah, you can't match the four year deal. I
(25:28):
don't think you can match a three year deal, to
be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I just think that you know, they I wouldn't say
go lucky because they played it right and they had
the right guys in the bullpen. That worked out for
the Dodgers. But you can't make that a steady diet
of That's how you're gonna go into a season. We're
gonna you know, we're gonna have a number of bullpen games,
and that's how we're gonna survive.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It. Just you play that play that role too often,
it's going to come back to bite you. And you've
got to have you do still have to have quality
starting pitching. That's why I think, you know, having Max
Freed a part of the rotation makes you so strong
going forward. All let's go up to the app in Oregon, Jack, Jack,
thanks for holding up there. Man. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (26:12):
Hey, Fred Radney, thanks for taking my call. Guys, I
think locked now, the price is only going to go up. Yeah,
they got to build right now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
For the future.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
That locks some good another another horse in there with
Flaherty and get Bueller signed. And I don't think there's
been a tougher guy that they've had in their lineup
recently then ti Oscar Hernandez and I agree with Rodney.
They got to lock him up for a few years
and give him a little kiss, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, yes, see smart man right there, smart man. And
he's right about that.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And I said that all day yesterday, is that these
prices are always going to go up. Today's price is
not tomorrow's price. And and so you know, locking a
guy up like free, locking a guy like Tao, to me,
a smart move because the dollars are only gonna go up.
You sign him to a one year deal, meaning Tao,
(27:11):
and then he goes and goes off for you. Then
he's gonna want thirty million, and then he may get
offered that for some other team where you could have
locked him up for twenty one, twenty two may so,
and then same thing with you know, Max Freee, thirty
years old.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
He's shown that he can be lights out when he's
on the hill. Go get him locked up. Go get
him locked up for six. He can even move to
the bullpen for you at the last two if you
need him too. All right, it's go to la Bill,
move to the bullpen. Bill, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
What do you think would not I would not sign Freed.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I'd go after Corbyn Burns instead.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, no injury history, no injury history, all right, Bill. Yeah,
we're not gonna play fantasy baseball because that hadn't been reported. Yeah,
you know what, I go after Corbyn Burns too. You're right,
you're right, that's who you would go after. But that
wasn't the report. The report was Freed. Okay.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I would not sign Freed.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
His injury history is too great.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
We already have injured pictures. All right, thanks Bill? Yeah, yeah,
Corbyn Burns is available. This is great. I like when
we play fantasy baseball. You do. That's the best. We'll
take him and we'll go get it. Yeah, we'll trade
for this guy and trade guy I mean up for
a contract. Let's go trade for that guy. No, yeah,
let's get him. Yeah, let's go to Monrovia. Mark, thanks
(28:38):
for holding. Are you gonna sign freed or not?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Fred?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's twenty one million one year. We don't sign length
week contracts with any pictures. You know that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Bananas. I don't know it's a bargain. Your three gonna
look up as a bargain. Got him for a bargain.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Kidding me. I understand, Rodney, but I don't think you
need him for six year. I got him for it.
I don't know why you do this. I have no
idea why you do this. I got him for a
bar I went not talking ten year Yamamoto deal.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
We're talking six years. He'll give you four and a
half great ones. Okay, then you pull and move him
to the bullpen. Oh that to be perfect. That six
years and then there's that dead money that we talked
about yesterday. No, he comes out of that pin for
you being really good. Oh, he's going to be good
coming out of this. Yes, okay, lefty with nasty stuff
(29:36):
coming out of the pen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Are you kidding me? Okay, all right, why do you
say he won't be good coming out of pin. I'm
saying I'm not going I'm saying I'm not gonna project
down the road where Max Freed, who may or may
not be injury free, ends up in the bullpen and
he's going to be a complete start. I can't I
can't have forecast that, or.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
At least four I've said, at the worst Canario scenario,
he moves to the pin for you because you've developed
the guys that have come back, and Dustin may has
shown his stuff and and uh you know Yamamoto is
the true as and and you got other guys.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
But man, yes, yes, get that horse. Okay, So for
four years, for two years, you're you're paying that horse
one year for one year, yeah, okay, So for one
year you're paying that horse who is now out in
the pasture twenty six million dollars for that pasture. How
how important was that pen for the Dodgers this year? Huh?
(30:30):
I want to talk about that? Yeah? What were six
million dollars this year? What what were lever made twenty
six million? When this series they don't have that pen.
I'm saying he's going there.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm saying that's a that's a that's an option you
could technically have at the last year of his contract.
If he's not gonna be one of your starters, he
can certainly move to the pen and be effected.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm saying that's the plan. Friend. I'm just saying, that's
an option. Got it? Oh? I hear you? I got
it all right. I want you to think about this
in the break and you might have to go a
little deeper on it in your thought process. Do you
a want to live along life or being have a
(31:15):
lot of friends? We will talk about it. Yeah, Today's
afternoon Delight. It's catch Fire.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The song is one of eight tracks that appears on
the rappers new mixtape, It's Had a Dois and Octave,
which dropped over the weekend to catch Fire. Cover art
features the surreal photo of Kodak Black's actual car in
flames after the gas line started leaking on the Highway,
an incident that took place while the rap star was
(31:50):
filming his first live.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Stream Wow Again. Today's afternoon delight is catch Fire by
Kodak Black. Let's go Freddy, All right, let's do it.
Next hour, Vindie bon Signor jumps on the program. Let's
talk to NFL two o'clock hour. Dan Wiki will be
(32:11):
here and we'll get into the NBA, specifically the uh,
the very excited three and oh Lakers own not so
much anymore? Oh, why why a you gotta do that? Well,
it's true, it's just true. I guess anytime you trumpet,
anytime you trumpet, I can't remember the last time we've
been three? And oh, if you're a good team, you
should expect to be three and oh you might not be,
(32:34):
but it wouldn't be surprising if you were. Who said,
I can't remember the last time we were three at all?
Oh no, it was all the news reports. It has
been this long since. While you're blaming the Lakers for
saying that, no, please, oh, please come on.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, the team didn't say anything. It was news outlets
and stat folks and people like that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, well nobody.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The team did a whole thing on Twitter or Instagram
and put up a band. We're three and oh the first.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Exactly? They didn't do it. Fred, Why are you holding
that against them? I'm not. I'm just saying that was
a story line. You are? You are, Fred, I'm not
holding it against it. I'm not doing it when you can.
Why do you Why do you always say that because
you just did? Okay? So why else do you always
say that? Because it's true while you're yelling at me,
(33:27):
not because the day you deserve it? Fredd? Okay, everybody
must answer this on their own. What do you want
to do? Do you want to have a lot of
friends or live longer? What do you want to do? Rodney?
(33:54):
What do you want? Is that a question? Is that
a rhetorical question? Is a real question? I want as
well as I can. I want to live as long
as I can.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You? Wait, if you had fewer friends, you'd be fine,
if you could live as long as you could. Yes, absolutely,
very good. You know a lot of friends is overrated,
that's true. Sure, well listen, don't I know that? All right? Kevin?
What would you prefer?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Live as long as I can? Fred? That's an easy
one for me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, Ronnie would you echo Kevin's sentiment? I sure would, Fred. Okay,
So here's why, because you know, I look up stuff
all the time, and this is an interesting study. Uh,
keeping a small circle of friends helps you avoid drama,
and if you're a monkey, it keeps you from getting ill.
So here's what researchers did. They did this experiment with monkeys.
(34:47):
Now we've talked about monkeys in the past. Rodney is
terrified of monkeys and one hit me in the mouth
at one point. So neither one of us are really
fond of monkeys. No, not, But that's how the survey
was constructed.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What Kevin, somebody threw a monkey at you, right.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And then somebody threw them monkey that was a different.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Monkey than the monkey that punched you right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, the monkey didn't punch me, just slapped me real hard.
The monkey bitch lapt you, Fred. That's what the monkey did.
That's exactly what the monkey did. But the troubling part
of the other monkey, and you know, looks every monkey
has to make a living. But the other monkey really
(35:25):
needed a bath. The one that is, Rodney would say,
bitch slapped me. At least had better hygiene then the
monkey that was thrown at me. They all need better hygiene.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's just the severity of it, right, Yeah, most monkeys
they don't smell very good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Right and I and I don't know why they didn't
include that in the survey. Why don't monkeys bathe more? Anyway?
So what they did is they did this research project
with monkeys, and here's what they found. They found that
monkeys who were alone or had a very small group
of monkey friends. And I don't you know, so you
(36:08):
can have like two monkey friends, you have two monkey friends.
They avoided drama because monkeys have drama too. You don't
realize that. And apparently the researchers determine that. So the
monkeys with fewer friends were also what exposed to less
the possibility of illness, the possibility of disease. Those monkeys
(36:33):
lived longer than monkeys who were just out in the world.
We'll call those world monkeys. They were just out in
the world. So researchers are now trying to apply this
to human beings. So the determination is this, if you
want to live a long time, basically, lock yourself in
(36:54):
your house or in an enclosed area. You can open
the window a little bit so you can get some mirror,
but try to avoid all people. And if you do that,
according to this survey, you will live a long time. Now,
you won't have a lot of human interaction because you
(37:14):
don't need any drama because that stresses you out.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, but doesn't that I mean, Okay, you eliminated one issue,
but you created another one, right because loneliness and not
having a lot of friends or any friends, then that
put you in a depressed state, doesn't it right?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Right? But if you were in a depressed state and
didn't have a lot of friends, you'd live a long
time in a depressed state. And you would keep those
thoughts to yourself because if you told somebody else, you
would stress them out.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
No, I think you just die sooner, Fred, I think
is how that works?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
What happens?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I think you would just die sooner if you're lonely
and depressed. They've done studies on humans. If you don't
have human interaction and you're sitting around not doing anything, yeah,
you'd absolutely die sooner.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Body shuts down. Okay, well I hear both of you.
Thank you, doctors. I'm reading a survey. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Why listen to the studies on the humans let's go
to the study on the monkeys that makes it for.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Your research paper from Psychology. Today, I'm reading somebody, did
you know? Did you know? Junior year usc there you go.
You were the Psychology magazine Man of the month one time.
I know. If this research, which is applied to monkeys
is applicable to humans, you should keep that in mind.
(38:32):
That's all I'm saying to your friends. You're a monkey friends, right, Well, first,
I don't have any monkey friends, so that's one thing.
Of course. Not monkey don't like you. No, well they
don't know. They really don't. As a matter of fact.
After reading this, and I'm glad we talked about it,
neither one of you gave me any help. But this
is actually a survey, a research paper. I think I'm
(38:53):
gonna go back to the condo when I'm done here,
locked the door and not come out again. That's what
I'm gonna do. I will not come out, you promise.
That's enough, Ronnie. And that's why I don't need friends
like you. You said we were friends. Yeah, wait, right
there it is. That's exactly what this paper is talking about.
Now you're giving me drama if I'm a monkey. And
(39:14):
now I'm not good. I'm very stressed. Now now you're stressed,
and stress leads uh, heart problems and other problems. So
now it's now it's a total bad thing for you, Fred.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
But you know what, Fred, you won't be around people,
so you won't get ahead cold. So there you go, perfect, gone,
get out.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay. If you'd like to comment on the survey later
in the show, feel free to do. So. It's got
some football in here. How about those? Do you like football?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
How about those rail I still got a baseball kind
of hangover right now, do you Yeah, I'm still looking
at baseball stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Whatever. Hey, you know what, let's do, Lenning, Let's talk
a little football. Will come back and do more Dodgers. Yeah, okay,
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