December 16, 2025 • 46 mins
Fred and Rodney debate whether the Dodgers should entertain a trade to bring back Corey Seager. Also, the Clippers are now 6-20 after last nights loss to Memphis - is it time to blow this thing up and rebuild?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All righty, here we go, bred Rogan, Rodney Pete. I
am five seventy LA Sports, a big three hour program
for us today. Alan Slaywell will talk some Lakers coming
up at two o'clock and Vinnie Bonsnior will be here
one we'll talk some NFL Rodney any business as we
began or should we get right to it?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, Freddy? Uh no, no, we count down the days
and uh holiday season is upon us. Do you feel,
Freddy that once December hits, or that first Monday in
December hits, that it is the official shutdown mode starts.
(00:40):
It just feels that way. You know, I'm you know,
I'm working on some things, and you know when I
try to call and call a couple of folks this
week and last week, it's been he's out of the office.
He's not going to be in until Thursday. H Yeah,
he's traveling today. He probably won't be you're not gonna
be in the office. Maybe you can do a zoom
(01:03):
or can we do a phone call instead of a
face to face meeting. It just feels like every year
it gets further and further out from Christmas and New
Year's that people are saying let's just pick this up
in January.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, here's the thing. There's no business being conducted now,
it's over. There's no real business being conducted by anyone.
You're right at this point in time. You just go
through the motions, get done, move forward, and we'll see
you next year. I'm telling you, I feel it already.
I feel like we're basically done for the year. Not
(01:41):
with the show. Don't get me wrong, because in this
kind of business, we're up every single day, right right,
But I can see people around me. There's no real
urgency to do anything. No, everybody slowed down. When you
do what we do for a living. Yeah, you're up
every day because that's our job. But the majority of people,
and you're one of our drivers and delivery people who
(02:02):
are killing themselves now, crew, Yeah, unless you're one of
those people, I think most people start to slow down.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
They're just taking their foot off the accelerator. Now, let's
say we're going seventy right now, we're probably at about
fifty five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, you know, we're starting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
To slow down, and then next week I am telling
you we'll be working at least for a portion of it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Nothing gets done when you hit Sunday, it's over done.
Oh we're finished Friday, Friday at whatever time you get off.
If it's three five o'clock on Friday, it's a rat.
Nobody's thinking about Monday this Friday. They're just getting through
this Friday, which is in essence. I had a friend
(02:46):
of mine that told me that this is actually the
best time to make some things happen, because people, like
you said, people either shut it down or they're trying
to close out before the new year and try to
make something happen for the new year and get everything
button up. But he was he is of the opposite opinion.
He feels like, this is where I grind right now.
(03:08):
I get things. So many things closed in this period
of time because you don't you don't feel the pressure
of twenty five people having to make a decision on
something or it being you know, desperate situation. But it
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feels like people feel like they're going to get a
deal if they make this happen before the new year.
So I have a couple of people that are in
that mindset that this is the best time to make
things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, but the problem is this, you might want to
make things happen. Now, it's the other people on the
other side. You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, this
is a great time to make things happen, but somebody's
got to be willing to make it happen. On the
other side. If you're a car dealer, it's a great time, right.
This will be a busy time for you right now
because now people are coming in end of the year deals,
(04:02):
moving inventory for Christmas, got to get ready for next year.
That'll be fine. But if you're if you're an attorney,
are you kidding me? Yeah, you know what, you have
a conversation, we'll pick it up in January. No problem.
People are not going to kill themselves now. And you're right,
especially after Friday. Yeah, seventy percent of the people are
(04:23):
done and we won't. And you know what, even if
you come back after Christmas and work into New Year's
you're not going You're not going full bore. What will
happen is you go through the motions a couple of
days and you're off again, right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
True, It's true. Yeah, you might have one or two
days that you just grind it out, but then it's
really it depends on a lot of times It depends
on when the day happens. When New Year's happens, right,
I think this year's on Thursday, Christmas New Year's on Thursday.
So certainly January second's not gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen
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because nobody's coming back to work on Friday. After New
Year's Eve on Wednesday, and New Year's Day on Thursday.
Nobody's coming to work on Friday, you know, the second.
And it's really about that Monday. But even with that Monday,
I think people still like in the mindset of I'm
gonna give it, you know, I gotta give it a week, fred,
(05:20):
I gotta get it a week to just kind of
get back into the flow. So it may be January
tenth before I actually get back into the flow.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, well, you know what, we're in the flow right now.
I'll tell you who else is in the flow. The
Dodger front office. It's funny, they will be working. When
you have that kind of job. Yeah, you might not
be in the office, but you're always working. You're always listening.
Let me give you something, You tell me what you think.
All right, Clutch Points has a trade proposal. Here we go,
(05:52):
Dodgers get Corey Seeger and they're going to give up Andy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Pa Has and two prospects. I tell you that, And
you say, we who are the two prospects? We don't know.
That's a That's a big part of it, you know,
if you're trying to read that cupboard and the prospects,
the prospects, the uh what uh de Paula and outfielder
(06:17):
and Morales a third basement. He just made those up. No,
that's true. I'm kidding, Uh, Corey Seeger for for Annie
Paez and two prospects of which you mentioned, two prospects
that have kind of hung around Double A for the
last year and uh promising, promising, but but haven't played
(06:43):
in Big Leau yet. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly,
And that's a trade straight for Corey Seeger.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right that that's what this article is suggesting. If the
Dodgers want Corey Seeger, put that deal together and go get.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Him, Go get him, of course, go get him. Of course, yes,
he knew where I was going. That's my guy. I
love some Corey Seeger, but yeah, go get him left
handed back, left handed back. And you know everybody said,
(07:21):
eventually he's going to be a third baseman, so he's
gonna move the third You know you've you've got you know,
you've got what you've gotten out of out of Max Muncie,
and maybe you know he stays around, he can be,
you know, play second when he needs to and not
knowing the health of Tommy Edmonds just yet, so why not?
(07:43):
Why not? I like it? Of course you do. Of
course you like it because then you could have Corey
Seager back, which would be a great thing. I'll tell
you why. I am not a fan of this deal.
I'm not a pan of it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
First of all, with with Corey Seeger, you know, you
have somebody who's injured that you know, and it's through
no faull of his own. But he gets hurt every year.
He's going to be hurt. So that's the first thing.
Second thing is he makes a good amount of money,
all right. I don't think you really need to add
his salary. And I don't think he's a building block
(08:20):
for the future.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He's not. He's not a building block for the future.
He's a building block for right now. And you keep
him healthy, and you know, you slot him in and
play him at third base. His salary when he first
signed to go to Texas was crazy. Oh my god, Corey,
you gotta go get paid. And he was one of
(08:42):
those guys that we talked about yesterday that front office goes, hey,
go test the market and see what it bears. And
he tested it and Texas came running and he said,
I'm gone, and I get it. You gotta go do it.
But now I think he's in and what five years
into that contract or whatever it may be, and you
look up, it's a reasonable deal. It's a reasonable deal
(09:06):
for another club. I just and he's and he's a
guy that think what is he? I think he's either
thirty right around thirty thirty one, thirty years old, five
years left on that deal. You ain't got to worry
about it for the next five years because he's got
five years. Go get him, Go get him, bring him
(09:28):
back home, bring him back home, and then we would
make this a real, a real dynasty that we win
five in a row. Okay, I don't think if he
comes back home, they're gonna win five in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They could, but I don't think he's going to be
the guy to do it. Come on, come on, he
could easily win five.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But I'm not saying he's the guy about a lineup
that you can't you you can't, you can't pitch around anybody.
You better, you better do something because there's no easy outs.
And we said that last year. You bring Corey Seeger
in the mix. Good goll him, miss Molly, Now go okay, thanks,
miss Molly. He's thirty two years old, because what Max
(10:05):
Max munts, he's got one year left right on the right. Yeah,
you're gonna get You're gonna have to probably go get
a third basement at some point either doing you know,
trade deadline. We'll figure out how it works during the season.
At some point, you gotta go get the third basement.
If he's not in your organization right now, you know, uh,
you got a proven guy. Oh yeah, I get you
(10:26):
with the injury portion of it, but he's the guy
with the Dodgers now and that he's not gonna be
required to play every day. You know, he'll play a
significant amount, but he's not gonna you're not counted on
him to go win the game for you. You know,
you got you got Mookie at short and Corey Seeger
at third, Freddie at first. You know, and you're platoon
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in the second base. Come on, Fred, it's no brainer.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I understand what you're saying. Uh, he's too old and
not in real world. Not in the real life. If
he's thirty two years old old, he's a kid, he's
a man. But he's young. No not no, no, no more.
Everybody's getting older as it is no more. Wow, everybody's
getting older. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You cannot go out and get an injury prone thirty
two year old with five years left on his deal.
You can't do that. No, yes you can. It does
not make sense. You can't. Yes, you can't, because you
don't need the twenty two year old Corey Seeger. You
need that. Corey Seeger was the World Series MVP. Well
you need that, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But from from the Rangers. What do you need in
two years? Because that's really what this comes down to.
These decisions now are for two.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Years from now?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Would be all right in two years? No he won't,
Yeah he will, he will not. He will not be
all right in two years he will he will be hurt.
No he won't, Yes he will. And when that happens,
what are you going to say? I don't think you
can give up young players that year. I was chatting
into it and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Two players, two players, and the Dodgers depth what they
have in organization. That's nothing. Uh the one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Depaula has drawn comparisons to elite outfielders due to his
offensive profile and athleticism. Morales, though young, demonstrated extraordinary offensive
production in his pro debut, shortstop capabilities that could develop
into a long term solution for Texas. No, no, no, yeah, yeah,
show me what they've done in the big leagues again,
(12:24):
tell me what that was.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They've done nothing. Okay, thank you. I'll tell you what
they could be in the big leagues. When Corey Seeker
is sitting sitting on the bench with his arm and
a sling, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I wouldn't do it.
I would not do it. Corey's giving you thirty five
and one hundred and ten. Yeah, come on, do it
in a heartbeat, bring it back.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, perhaps perhaps this will change your thinking, or maybe
it won't. Maybe it won't. So Andrew Friedman talking about
what the Dodgers are looking for, pretty funny. He said,
we're looking for a position player who's good on both
offense and defense. Okay, well, everybody's looking for that. Everybody's
looking for that, a position player that's good on both
offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So maybe maybe what does that say?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It sounds more like again the name Brendan Donovan. When
these names surface. Oftentimes when name surface, they're planted, or
they're leak or you think, well, maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
With the Dodgers, when a guy is mentioned, he's mentioned
a hundred times. That doesn't mean they go get him.
Brendan Donovan, there's that name again. He can play all
over the field and he can hit. Those are the
guys that Dodgers want. So Kyle Tucker for example, Yeah,
on a short term deal, you take a run at him,
But he can't play all over the field. And that's
(13:44):
how the Dodgers build their team. The guys that can
play everywhere, that can do anything, that can hit. If
that's the case, Corey Secret doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Really fit that profile. Corey Secret can't play everywhere. You
can play short, play third, Can he play center field? No?
I didn't even want him to play first base, don't
need him to, right, but he can hit. There's ny
(14:19):
there's nowhere to put him. He's too old. I'm telling
hi hit. He can hit. He can hit. And as
you what's Max Mounsey thirty five thirty six? I believe so. Yeah, yeah,
so this is last year Max Mountsey will be here, Corey.
Corey steps right in and he plays plays a lot
(14:43):
of third base. Who do we get slotted to play
second base? There's Tommy Edmond's not going to be ready
to go it started season, probably not. Who do you
got slaughtered to play second base? How about we play Kim?
Let Kim play second base. Yeah, he's the second baseman.
Let him play second Okay, your full time, every day
(15:04):
second baseman. Let him go. Yeah. I think they'd like
him to be the full time, everyday second baseman. I
think that. I think so too, actually, but yeah, Corey
seeger for the final run, trying to win more more championships.
Left handed bat in that lineup? Come on, come on,
(15:28):
come on, bring him back. Bring him back, friend and
bring him back, friend and bring him back. Has there
ever been a Dodger you don't want to be brought back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I any time we mentioned anybody? Yeah, bring him back, Yes,
of course there is. You know, Mittie, I like the guy.
I like him as a person, I really do. And
he's got a big.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Heart, but sometimes just can't get couldn't get out of
his own way, you know, y'all see help Week was
a guy that fans loved him. I like this style,
like this hustle, I like this every day go full
full board, full speed. But he made some bad decisions,
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bad decisions on the field sometimes and off the field.
So yeah, he's the guy that I like. I don't
know if they need to bring him back. So yeah,
there you go. How about that?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, well they should not bring him back. I'm just
saying it doesn't matter whatever you're Walker buell Er, get
him back here right now. What are you waiting for? No,
you can't bring everybody back. And I'll say this, and
the Dodgers can revisit anything. There's a reason they let
guys go. There's a reason. I want to say this.
(16:49):
If they thought Corey Seeger was worth X.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Number that reason. Sometimes it's not what we think it
might be, right, But I assure you, if they thought
Corey Seeger when he was up was worth the money
texts paying them, they would design him done done. No.
Because they had Trey Turner already to a deal, they
had a backup plan and Trey Turner was already locked
in for two years. So you know when that number
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got up in the three hundreds, they were we can't
afford that, we don't necessarily need that. We have our
contingency plan with UH, with Trey Turner. And then Trey
Turner left, so they weren't forced to go sign or
they weren't under the gun to sign Corey Seeger at
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that point because they had just traded for a Sureser
and and for UH for Trey Turner.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Turner go, Yes, they could have matched the Phillies,
no problem. They could have paid because they can't pay
anything now. Granted his wife apparently liked the East Coast.
I don't know, but for a hundred million dollars, maybe
you can get used to the sun in California.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So but the Lana guy that don't want to be here, Fred, well,
can you make the argument Corey Siger didn't want to
be here? He signed with you know, he signed with
Texas because Texas backed up the truck said here's here's
the money, and the Dodgers were not willing to do
(18:16):
that because they they created a backup plan when they
signed Shreser and Trey Turner. So the Dodgers didn't need
to back up the truck for Corey Seeger at that point.
You know, they threw Trey Turner into that deal. And
and you said it actually you were said, you said,
you know, everybody's talking about Schurzer, but the deal is
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that Trey Turner is coming along with this, and that's
the bigger fish, which which you know, I believe he
was as we found out, you know, with the dead
arm and all the things that shres are brought and
was not good for the Dodgers, not Dodger like. Schuser
was not Dodger like. So, but they had a backup
(18:58):
plan and so out there's an opportunity to bring him back.
Five years left on the deal, go get him. Well,
I guess what's your hang up on Corey Seeger? You
don't like him? Huh No, it's not that I don't
like him. There has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I don't think a team that's getting older brings a
guy in for it's thirty two years old, for five
more years.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Prospects. They got prospects coming up the pipeline, Freddie, we're
trying to win the next three years. We're trying to
win while Mookie and Freddy are in their prime still
and they will trying to do and they will. Let's
go for it. No time to be training a young
kid of a young prospect. Let's go get some winners
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that we know can get it done and call it
a day for the next three years and then we'll revamp.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All right, look at it like this. If you'll answer this,
it will answer everything. No, here we go, No, this
will be the answer. Corey Seger is a free agent
right now. He's a free agent. Let's say he's looking
at a five year deal, so he'll be thirty seven
years old. He wants what twenty five to thirty million
(20:10):
a year, all right, and he has a serious history
of injuries. He's a free agent and that's what it's
going to cost to get him. If you're the Dodgers,
would you sign a thirty two year old, injury prone
infielder for that kind of money for five years? The
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answer is no, you would not. And if you would
not sign him as a free agent, then why in
God's name would you trade for him?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right? Would you pay sixty nine million dollars for thirty
two years one old reliever? Who You've always said they're
like hockey goalies.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, because this guy's gonna have three uh Vesna Cup
seasons and win the award for best Goalie. That's why
now I gotta be honest. Anyway, it was pushed out there,
people kicked it around. I just can't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It'll be a buzzkill on a Tuesday, Fred, What then'll
be a buzz Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm not Nobody says we don't like him as a person.
All right, Uh okay, the decision must be made. Are
we gonna blow this up or not?
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And the Clippers are basically a dumpster fire if we're
to be fair. Oh, they lost at home to Memphis.
They're six and twenty on the year, and people are
calling for Tylu and Lawrence Frank to be fired, and
the fan base is getting louder. So let's get into
this now, because I find this kind of thing fascinating
(22:47):
in my opinion. First of all, Tyler's not getting fired.
Tylu did not forget how to coach. It's not like
he woke up and said, what is this basketball?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know what I'm doing. He knows how to coach.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And it's not like his message is being lost on
the players because the players aren't very good. They're beat up,
they're older, they're hurt. Lawrence Frank has done, in my opinion,
a masterful job of trying to construct the franchise that
is competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Really, before Frank got their doc, Rivers kind of oversaw
coaching basketball operations.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
But Lawrence Frank's done a pretty good job, and the
Clippers did what they needed to do and they needed
to do something big when Steve Balmer bought the team.
You understand the Clippers. Oh, they had a nice season.
That doesn't make them any more relevant Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The only way they increase their footprint is to take
enormous swings, giant swings.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Try it be different, because that's it. Otherwise you are
always and probably will be, but at least for the
long term future, living in the Lakers shadows.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So they did it. They took enormous swings.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, they gave up well, first they signed Kawhi, then
they gave up an awful lot for Paul George.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I gotta tell you, when.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That deal went down, not one person thought what a
terrible deal for the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Nobody thought that.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Nobody they thought they're going for it, and you gotta
give them credit.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It didn't work. It just it didn't work. What do
you blame the circumstance? It didn't work. They went for it,
you said the circumstance. Yeah, they tried. I heard. I
don't know if I've heard you ever say the circumstance. Well,
you know what I respect, they tried. Somebody's got to
get it. Is what you always say, somebody got to
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get it. Well, somebody's got to get it. But here,
and here's the tough part of this.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
They took the big swing and you have to respect that,
and you have to admire that they went for it
and the window closed, very much like the Lob City Clippers,
they imploded.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
The window closed.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now that's hard because Lob City had a real shot,
and if Kawhi and Paul George had been healthy all along,
they would have had a real shot. You knew both
were somewhat damaged when you signed them, Kawhi worse than
Paul George. As it turns out, they're both needing mass units,
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so neither one was completely healthy. But they sure went
for it, and I respect that. And as they continued
to tweak the roster, if either one of those guys,
if both of those guys have been healthy and playing,
they probably would have won, honestly, because they had a
great roster. And that's on Lauren's Frank for putting it together,
(26:00):
and that's on Tyleru coaching.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
As guys, they would have won a title, is what
you're saying. I think so, Yeah, I think so. I
do think that. Are you giving it. What a four
year window of those guys being together, three year window
of those guys being together being healthy, they would have won.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
If both of those guys had been healthy within four years,
they would have won a title.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, I believe that. I do believe that. That's fair.
That's fair, right, Yeah, that's fair. Oh yeah, they made
it to a conference final with Kaui being hurt, so yeah,
I think they would have won it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It didn't work, all right, And now you're here, even
in this offseason, Rodney, they went out and they made moves,
and honestly, when you looked at what they did and
thought about it, you think these guys got a pretty
good roster.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Older like Corey Seeger old, older, easy, you know, Corey
Seeker is a young spring chicken character. To what the
Clippers did and their roster, guess what, everybody got hurt.
Everybody got hurt, shocked. It has been a disaster. So
now you're here, you're here and you have to think
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what do they do now they're six and twenty. I'd
say the playoffs are a long shot at best, even
if they got super hot, you know what I mean? Yeah,
they could, what do you do it? They should have
went for the Cup. That would have kind of that
was their best shot. That was the only chance to
(27:44):
win this year the Cup. What do you do? What
can you do? What can you do? Look, Steve Bomber's
got a lot of money and he can do whatever
he wants. He's the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest owner
in the NBA. You talked about the experience and Paul George, Kawhi, Leonard,
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they had some other players around him too that could
have been you know, that could have took him far.
They did get to the Western Conference finals one year,
and that was without Kawhi, right, Paul George put him
on his back a little bit and they got there.
So going forward to now, that window of Paul George
Kawhi obviously is closed done. So what do you do now?
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Then you tried to bring in James Harden and Chris
Paul and Lopez and you're like, Okay, we can we
can make this happen while Kawhi is still here. Well,
no you can't. Ready, No you can't. Kawhi all time
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great player, really is talent among most people in this league.
No one would deny that. Get But if you can't
be on the court. That doesn't help you. It doesn't
help you When he's on the court, he is oftentimes
the best player on the court, but he's not on
the court enough to help you. And trying to surround
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him with older guys that you know, let's be honest,
that a little bit past their prime, still can still
can make plays and still can have big nights here
and there, but not on a consistent basis. So what
do you do. You almost have to blow it up,
don't you. And I think that's what you have to do. Yeah,
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I think you have to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And I think if they did do it, they would
be honest about it and explain it and say this
is what we're going to do now and come along
with us for this journey. But I think you have
to blow it up because it's not working. James Harden
is still more than serviceable. He's a very good player.
He could go somewhere and help somebody. He might fetch
a light first round pick. Zubats is a talented young
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center him. I would hold on to him. I would
hold on to us. Has still gotten a number of
years left. I would not get rid of Zubos right,
But you know what, I would turn this into everybody's
available now, everybody. Here's the problem with Kawhi, considering the
NBA's ongoing investigation into aspiration.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Who wants that a contender?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
If a contender, if there were one player away, if
I were them, I'd make a play for Kawhi. Praise
healthy and maybe Kawhi wins a title for you, but
he's not gonna win it. Here, everybody's available now, everybody.
You just got to say, Okay, thanks to everybody. We
gave it a hell of a shot, but the stars
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didn't align for us, so we got to start again.
Because you can't. You can't piecemeal it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's like I I like to say, you can't put
a band aid on a shotgun blast you're still bleed out.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Wait, let me get that straight. You can't put a
band aid on a shotgun blast because you're still bleed out.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah. That being said, you got to
start again. Sucks to say it, tough to hear it.
Probably nobody wants to go through it. If you like
the Clippers, but you're not going anywhere. You are not
going anywhere. How does that sit though? Within the Clippers organization?
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Where you've you've kind of been right there on the verge.
You've been you know, your playoff team, you've lost a
few times in the first second round, and you've made
the conference finals one time. And now you're going to
blow it up and say, we're going to take two
to three years to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Get this back. And where do you start. Where do
you start, Freddy, to get this back or get you
a point where you're you're contending not just to make
the playoffs, but you're contending to go win a title
because survive this may be okay in Milwaukee Cleveland, but
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you can't survive being in what you call no man's land,
which is where the Clippers are. They're in the middle,
and and that's that's the worst place. Either you want
to be at the bottom or you want to be
at the top. But you're in no man's land, which
you keep saying, that's the worst place to be.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But there is good news for the Clippers if you
look at it like that, they're at the bottom. Now
there's good news. You see, there's a silver lining. They're
not no man's land. They're going down in quicksand they're
at the bottom. And it would probably behoove them not
to get a lot better. You gotta start again.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Go here we go in the tanking business.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I don't want you to tank. You got a lot
of young guys. I'd let them plays. Every young plays
under the age of thirty. You're in the lineup over
the age of thirty. Take a break tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean, it's an awful spot to be in. And
if it's tied and you're over over thirty and you
wanted the veteran guys that's playing. Okay, if it gets
to halftime and you're close or winning, you tell them
to take a break for the second half. We need
to listen. Don't strain yourself. We need you for the
next night.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Hey, you've given it all you have. Those hammies occur
a lot when you're over thirty, so just sit down. No,
I mean, it's a tough spot to be and it's awful.
It's terrible, But that's where they're at. You can't sugarcoat it.
That's where they're at. It didn't work. The best laid
plans they didn't work. And again, if somebody's got to
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get it, it's not because they didn't have a plan
and follow it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Get rid of Lawrence Frank He put together a great roster.
The guys got hurt. What are you gonna do? Steve
Balmer invested heavily in the front office. What are you
gonna do? Who's gonna get it? You're gonna fire Tylo,
fire him, He'll work in fifteen minutes. That's always been
my problem. Somebody's got to get it. Why Why did
(34:28):
somebody always gotta get it? I don't think in this situation,
somebody's got to get it. I don't think so. It
just it happened. It happened, and now they're gotta figure
out what to do next. But they can't continue like
this now. I even feel badly for James Harden.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
He'd better not. You know, you get run out of
the city if you if you do it in this town.
Who mad for James Harden? Why? Why you feel bad
for James Harden?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Because you know what, he's having a nice year. He
should go somewhere where he has a chance to win again. Seriously,
he should. He should go somewhere if somebody wants somewhere
he could win. Kawhi should go somewhere if somebody wants
somewhere he can win. They can't win here. That's not
gonna happen. So give those guys a chance, and maybe
you get something back in return for him, and you
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can start start anew because that's exactly what the Clippers
have to do. We'll talk some Lakers. At two o'clock.
Alan Slawe will join the show and tap of the hour,
our buddy Vinnie bon Signor jumps on.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh Let's go. Today's afternoon delight is do You Feel
the Same? By Russ. New Jersey native dropped a single
over the weekend as he continues to build up his
release of the deluxe version of his album entitled The
Elephant and the Rioter. The inspiration for this track came
from personal experience that he had with his divorced parents
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while visiting New York City, where their relationship began. Listening
to his father Remember the Past, Russ ended up creating
the song from his father's point of view on the
day of his parents' engagement anniversary without even realizing it. Again,
Today's afternoon delight is do you feel the same by
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Russ all right and no.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
From the court to the court room with Jacob em Roanni.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Alrighty, now are week we checked with our good friend
Jacob em Ronnie and Jacob.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
How are you today?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I am good.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Happy holidays, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Happy holidays, do you so? Jacob? I was driving.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I was going to take a picture, and I didn't
take a picture because I was driving. So if I
had taken a picture while I was driving, that would
have been illegal. But I'm driving on the ten and
I'm heading out to the desert. I see the billboard
with a new number eight hundred and three, four five, six, seven,
eight nine. Look very very clean and classy, Jacob, I
wanted to point that out.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Well, that means a lot. I appreciate it. You know
that these these type of feedbacks is what drives us, because,
you know, getting into an accident and needing to have
somebody to call should not be a gimmick. Should not
be some you know, some theatrical thing. It should be
very straightforward and for people to understand that, you know,
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we're going to be there and make it very easy
for them to be able to access us. So thank you, Fred.
I really appreciate that feedback.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I love it. I love it. Take it. Let me
ask you, you know, with something minor happens and you're
in an accident and you, you know, bump someone and
either you or the other person decide, hey, let's let's
let's settle this, you know, and and not to go
through insurance company. What's your advice to to that question
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of what somebody should do if it's a minor thing
and you don't want to go through insurance and you
just decide, or you offer up, or the other person
offers up, let's just settle this outside of insurance.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Listen. I mean, I think when something is very minor
and no one's injured and people are very hesitant about
getting their insurances involved because they're afraid that their insurance
is going to go up, I think that's I think
that is understood. The problem is people change their mind,
and I can't tell you probably eight out of ten
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times when people talk about let's just settle this later,
and it just takes days and days and days and
days and days, and then the other person stops responding,
and then you know you're saying, okay, well what do
I do now? You call the insurance company. The insurance
company is like, well, why did it take you two
months to get back to us? And then the other
part of it is the other person if they don't
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report the accident to their insurance company. At times, insurance
companies can decide not to honor the claim because the
other party is supposed to within a matter of forty
eight hours report an accident to their insurance companies so
their insurance company can investigate what occurred. So, you know,
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with minor accidents, you know, people even say, hey, take
it to this body shop and I'll just pay for it.
And I think it's a good idea, but I think
it's always you know, risky. On bigger accidents or if
someone's injured, one hundred percent them against that because you
always get the short end of the stick.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, all right, Jacob. Are the Lakers real?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I think they're real, Yes, absolutely, And I think it's
a you know, I think we talk about this every year.
I think as we start to get close to the
end of the year, I think it's always good to
be able to see what areas you have to improve
because you know within the next what six weeks to
eight weeks, the trade deadline is coming around, and you
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have to start to get better. And I think the
Lakers are real, but I think they need another good
three and D player. I think at times we see
that they get exposed when it comes down to their defense,
and I think bringing on somebody who can play that
three and D and can be locked down. I mean,
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the other night we were watching Marcus Smart and you
can see what a difference he makes. I mean, he
misses a game and you can see the difference, and
when he's in there, you can see the difference. So
I think more defense is something that you know the
Lakers will be looking at and hopefully trying to upgrade.
But I think definitely they're for real. And I'll listen
to all these you know, former NBA players talking about
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the fact that the Lakers can match up to this
and that you know, we're only a few months into it,
and you know, you look at your strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You think the concern is there any concern that they're
heavily dependent on on the Big three, Like if one
of them go down Austin Reeves, Luca, Lebron. We saw them,
you know, early in the season kind of withstand Lebron
going down. But as the season gets deeper into it,
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are they deep enough to survive Lebron or Luca or
Austin Reeves going down.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
So listen, I think we very clearly saw that. You know,
Van Do Doh has not been getting any time and
he's kind of been stuck on the bench, right And
you know, the other night with Austin Reeves out, Vanda
got some time and he was amazing. He was back
to the old Vando. He was incredible on defense. He
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brought you know, he brought the fire, and he was
part of the reason that they were able to, you know,
survive that case. You know that I think case that game.
They were able to survive that game in Phoenix. Listen,
I think there's only one ball to go around, right.
I think we've seen Austin Reeves score forty plus when
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you know, either Luca's out or Lebron's out. I think
when they're all in there, Austin Reeves has been having
a little bit of a hard time kind of finding
his groove, and I think that's on the coaching staff
to be able to allow each of them to be
able to shine when they're in the game. I think
we got some good players on the bench, they're just
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not getting the ball enough. Now do I think that
there should be no tweaks? No, I think you always
need to upgrade. I mean you look at the teams
like okay see, and I mean those guys just appear
to have no faults at all. But every team is
just an injury or so away from getting a reality check.
And I think, you know, the Lakers are deaf. Me
going to try to upgrade and get some role players
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to come in to be able to step up, you
know during these games. Rodney.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
All right, Jacob, before we let you go, our listeners
love when you offer advice. So I have a question
for you today, and where I live, this happens all
the time.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Cars and trucks.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What is the difference between commercial truck accidents versus accidents
with regular cars?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Yeah, so you know, commercial truck accidents are usually people
who are driving these vehicles or these trucks during worktime. Right,
They're trying to deliver something. They're trying to get from
point A to point B. A lot of times they
may be late, they're under a time constraint. So a
lot of times when we have a client who calls
us and says they've been hit by a commercial truck
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or by a tractor trailer, they've been hit by an
eighteen wheeler, the first thing we try to do is
to figure out whether safety checks has been done on it,
What was the you know, what was the program that
driver had to follow. Have they gone enough for rest
because a lot of those things can add to the negligence,
you know, vice versa. If you've got on the other
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side two regular people, you know, not working, getting into
an accident, you're not asking them when is the last
time you made a delivery or how long have you
been working. I think one of the biggest things with
commercial trucks and specially tractor trailers and eighteen wheelers is
they have a heightened duty in order to pay attention.
They go through training. They have to know how to
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maneuver these big, you know, trailers and eighteen wheelers that
take up so much of the freeways or the streets
when they make these y turns. There's a training in place,
and often when our clients are hit by those type
of vehicles. The injuries are much bigger because of the
you know, sort of a David and Goliath between a
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small call and an eighteen wheeler, and a lot of
times you know, we go after figuring those things out.
It's a big difference. You need to have an attorney
who does those kind of cases. Make sure to ask
the attorney you're talking to what their you know, results
from those cases are, and just make sure you get
somebody who knows how to do that kind of work.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Got it outstanding, great, Jacob, Thank you for the chat.
As always, you have a terrific week.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
I appreciate it. Just one more thing, Fred before I
jump off, I want to let you know Rodney know
that you know, we have a new projen in the family.
And yes, uh you know. Rodney's been great every time
we're at the games. He hangs out with my boys.
But my oldest one just got worried that he has
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been accepted and he's our new Trojan.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So that is fantastic. I love it. I love it. Congratulations, Congratulations.
It is forever changed.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Now, that's right. That's right. So he's going to be
fighting on for a long time. And I know you've
been You've been great giving him a lot of advice.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
So I just want to say, whoever he needs you
know I'm always there for you and your family and
whatever he needs he wants to call me. My son
is about is a junior now there, so uh, they
can exchange numbers. He can help him out as well. Man,
So anything you need, absolutely appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Thank you, guys, you got it.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Jesus shoot people multiply, do you hear me? We multiply people, multiply.
You're everywhere. God all right. When we come back, we'll
start the next hour. We're talking to NFL with Vinnie Bonsignor,
All righty, here we go, bred Rogan, Rodney Pete. I
am five seventy LA Sports, a big three hour program
for us today. Alan Slaywell will talk some Lakers coming
up at two o'clock and Vinnie Bonsnior will be here
one we'll talk some NFL Rodney any business as we
began or should we get right to it?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, Freddy? Uh no, no, we count down the days
and uh holiday season is upon us. Do you feel,
Freddy that once December hits, or that first Monday in
December hits, that it is the official shutdown mode starts.
(00:40):
It just feels that way. You know, I'm you know,
I'm working on some things, and you know when I
try to call and call a couple of folks this
week and last week, it's been he's out of the office.
He's not going to be in until Thursday. H Yeah,
he's traveling today. He probably won't be you're not gonna
be in the office. Maybe you can do a zoom
(01:03):
or can we do a phone call instead of a
face to face meeting. It just feels like every year
it gets further and further out from Christmas and New
Year's that people are saying let's just pick this up
in January.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, here's the thing. There's no business being conducted now,
it's over. There's no real business being conducted by anyone.
You're right at this point in time. You just go
through the motions, get done, move forward, and we'll see
you next year. I'm telling you, I feel it already.
I feel like we're basically done for the year. Not
(01:41):
with the show. Don't get me wrong, because in this
kind of business, we're up every single day, right right,
But I can see people around me. There's no real
urgency to do anything. No, everybody slowed down. When you
do what we do for a living. Yeah, you're up
every day because that's our job. But the majority of people,
and you're one of our drivers and delivery people who
(02:02):
are killing themselves now, crew, Yeah, unless you're one of
those people, I think most people start to slow down.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
They're just taking their foot off the accelerator. Now, let's
say we're going seventy right now, we're probably at about
fifty five.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, you know, we're starting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
To slow down, and then next week I am telling
you we'll be working at least for a portion of it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Nothing gets done when you hit Sunday, it's over done.
Oh we're finished Friday, Friday at whatever time you get off.
If it's three five o'clock on Friday, it's a rat.
Nobody's thinking about Monday this Friday. They're just getting through
this Friday, which is in essence. I had a friend
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of mine that told me that this is actually the
best time to make some things happen, because people, like
you said, people either shut it down or they're trying
to close out before the new year and try to
make something happen for the new year and get everything
button up. But he was he is of the opposite opinion.
He feels like, this is where I grind right now.
(03:08):
I get things. So many things closed in this period
of time because you don't you don't feel the pressure
of twenty five people having to make a decision on
something or it being you know, desperate situation. But it
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feels like people feel like they're going to get a
deal if they make this happen before the new year.
So I have a couple of people that are in
that mindset that this is the best time to make
things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, but the problem is this, you might want to
make things happen. Now, it's the other people on the
other side. You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, this
is a great time to make things happen, but somebody's
got to be willing to make it happen. On the
other side. If you're a car dealer, it's a great time, right.
This will be a busy time for you right now
because now people are coming in end of the year deals,
(04:02):
moving inventory for Christmas, got to get ready for next year.
That'll be fine. But if you're if you're an attorney,
are you kidding me? Yeah, you know what, you have
a conversation, we'll pick it up in January. No problem.
People are not going to kill themselves now. And you're right,
especially after Friday. Yeah, seventy percent of the people are
(04:23):
done and we won't. And you know what, even if
you come back after Christmas and work into New Year's
you're not going You're not going full bore. What will
happen is you go through the motions a couple of
days and you're off again, right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
True, It's true. Yeah, you might have one or two
days that you just grind it out, but then it's
really it depends on a lot of times It depends
on when the day happens. When New Year's happens, right,
I think this year's on Thursday, Christmas New Year's on Thursday.
So certainly January second's not gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen
(05:00):
because nobody's coming back to work on Friday. After New
Year's Eve on Wednesday, and New Year's Day on Thursday.
Nobody's coming to work on Friday, you know, the second.
And it's really about that Monday. But even with that Monday,
I think people still like in the mindset of I'm
gonna give it, you know, I gotta give it a week, fred,
(05:20):
I gotta get it a week to just kind of
get back into the flow. So it may be January
tenth before I actually get back into the flow.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, well, you know what, we're in the flow right now.
I'll tell you who else is in the flow. The
Dodger front office. It's funny, they will be working. When
you have that kind of job. Yeah, you might not
be in the office, but you're always working. You're always listening.
Let me give you something, You tell me what you think.
All right, Clutch Points has a trade proposal. Here we go,
(05:52):
Dodgers get Corey Seeger and they're going to give up Andy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Pa Has and two prospects. I tell you that, And
you say, we who are the two prospects? We don't know.
That's a That's a big part of it, you know,
if you're trying to read that cupboard and the prospects,
the prospects, the uh what uh de Paula and outfielder
(06:17):
and Morales a third basement. He just made those up. No,
that's true. I'm kidding, Uh, Corey Seeger for for Annie
Paez and two prospects of which you mentioned, two prospects
that have kind of hung around Double A for the
last year and uh promising, promising, but but haven't played
(06:43):
in Big Leau yet. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly,
And that's a trade straight for Corey Seeger.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right that that's what this article is suggesting. If the
Dodgers want Corey Seeger, put that deal together and go get.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Him, Go get him, of course, go get him. Of course, yes,
he knew where I was going. That's my guy. I
love some Corey Seeger, but yeah, go get him left
handed back, left handed back. And you know everybody said,
(07:21):
eventually he's going to be a third baseman, so he's
gonna move the third You know you've you've got you know,
you've got what you've gotten out of out of Max Muncie,
and maybe you know he stays around, he can be,
you know, play second when he needs to and not
knowing the health of Tommy Edmonds just yet, so why not?
(07:43):
Why not? I like it? Of course you do. Of
course you like it because then you could have Corey
Seager back, which would be a great thing. I'll tell
you why. I am not a fan of this deal.
I'm not a pan of it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
First of all, with with Corey Seeger, you know, you
have somebody who's injured that you know, and it's through
no faull of his own. But he gets hurt every year.
He's going to be hurt. So that's the first thing.
Second thing is he makes a good amount of money,
all right. I don't think you really need to add
his salary. And I don't think he's a building block
(08:20):
for the future.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He's not. He's not a building block for the future.
He's a building block for right now. And you keep
him healthy, and you know, you slot him in and
play him at third base. His salary when he first
signed to go to Texas was crazy. Oh my god, Corey,
you gotta go get paid. And he was one of
(08:42):
those guys that we talked about yesterday that front office goes, hey,
go test the market and see what it bears. And
he tested it and Texas came running and he said,
I'm gone, and I get it. You gotta go do it.
But now I think he's in and what five years
into that contract or whatever it may be, and you
look up, it's a reasonable deal. It's a reasonable deal
(09:06):
for another club. I just and he's and he's a
guy that think what is he? I think he's either
thirty right around thirty thirty one, thirty years old, five
years left on that deal. You ain't got to worry
about it for the next five years because he's got
five years. Go get him, Go get him, bring him
(09:28):
back home, bring him back home, and then we would
make this a real, a real dynasty that we win
five in a row. Okay, I don't think if he
comes back home, they're gonna win five in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They could, but I don't think he's going to be
the guy to do it. Come on, come on, he
could easily win five.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But I'm not saying he's the guy about a lineup
that you can't you you can't, you can't pitch around anybody.
You better, you better do something because there's no easy outs.
And we said that last year. You bring Corey Seeger
in the mix. Good goll him, miss Molly, Now go okay, thanks,
miss Molly. He's thirty two years old, because what Max
(10:05):
Max munts, he's got one year left right on the right. Yeah,
you're gonna get You're gonna have to probably go get
a third basement at some point either doing you know,
trade deadline. We'll figure out how it works during the season.
At some point, you gotta go get the third basement.
If he's not in your organization right now, you know, uh,
you got a proven guy. Oh yeah, I get you
(10:26):
with the injury portion of it, but he's the guy
with the Dodgers now and that he's not gonna be
required to play every day. You know, he'll play a
significant amount, but he's not gonna you're not counted on
him to go win the game for you. You know,
you got you got Mookie at short and Corey Seeger
at third, Freddie at first. You know, and you're platoon
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in the second base. Come on, Fred, it's no brainer.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I understand what you're saying. Uh, he's too old and
not in real world. Not in the real life. If
he's thirty two years old old, he's a kid, he's
a man. But he's young. No not no, no, no more.
Everybody's getting older as it is no more. Wow, everybody's
getting older. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You cannot go out and get an injury prone thirty
two year old with five years left on his deal.
You can't do that. No, yes you can. It does
not make sense. You can't. Yes, you can't, because you
don't need the twenty two year old Corey Seeger. You
need that. Corey Seeger was the World Series MVP. Well
you need that, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But from from the Rangers. What do you need in
two years? Because that's really what this comes down to.
These decisions now are for two.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Years from now?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Would be all right in two years? No he won't,
Yeah he will, he will not. He will not be
all right in two years he will he will be hurt.
No he won't, Yes he will. And when that happens,
what are you going to say? I don't think you
can give up young players that year. I was chatting
into it and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Two players, two players, and the Dodgers depth what they
have in organization. That's nothing. Uh the one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Depaula has drawn comparisons to elite outfielders due to his
offensive profile and athleticism. Morales, though young, demonstrated extraordinary offensive
production in his pro debut, shortstop capabilities that could develop
into a long term solution for Texas. No, no, no, yeah, yeah,
show me what they've done in the big leagues again,
(12:24):
tell me what that was.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They've done nothing. Okay, thank you. I'll tell you what
they could be in the big leagues. When Corey Seeker
is sitting sitting on the bench with his arm and
a sling, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I wouldn't do it.
I would not do it. Corey's giving you thirty five
and one hundred and ten. Yeah, come on, do it
in a heartbeat, bring it back.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, perhaps perhaps this will change your thinking, or maybe
it won't. Maybe it won't. So Andrew Friedman talking about
what the Dodgers are looking for, pretty funny. He said,
we're looking for a position player who's good on both
offense and defense. Okay, well, everybody's looking for that. Everybody's
looking for that, a position player that's good on both
offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So maybe maybe what does that say?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It sounds more like again the name Brendan Donovan. When
these names surface. Oftentimes when name surface, they're planted, or
they're leak or you think, well, maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
With the Dodgers, when a guy is mentioned, he's mentioned
a hundred times. That doesn't mean they go get him.
Brendan Donovan, there's that name again. He can play all
over the field and he can hit. Those are the
guys that Dodgers want. So Kyle Tucker for example, Yeah,
on a short term deal, you take a run at him,
But he can't play all over the field. And that's
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how the Dodgers build their team. The guys that can
play everywhere, that can do anything, that can hit. If
that's the case, Corey Secret doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Really fit that profile. Corey Secret can't play everywhere. You
can play short, play third, Can he play center field? No?
I didn't even want him to play first base, don't
need him to, right, but he can hit. There's ny
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there's nowhere to put him. He's too old. I'm telling
hi hit. He can hit. He can hit. And as
you what's Max Mounsey thirty five thirty six? I believe so. Yeah, yeah,
so this is last year Max Mountsey will be here, Corey.
Corey steps right in and he plays plays a lot
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of third base. Who do we get slotted to play
second base? There's Tommy Edmond's not going to be ready
to go it started season, probably not. Who do you
got slaughtered to play second base? How about we play Kim?
Let Kim play second base. Yeah, he's the second baseman.
Let him play second Okay, your full time, every day
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second baseman. Let him go. Yeah. I think they'd like
him to be the full time, everyday second baseman. I
think that. I think so too, actually, but yeah, Corey
seeger for the final run, trying to win more more championships.
Left handed bat in that lineup? Come on, come on,
(15:28):
come on, bring him back. Bring him back, friend and
bring him back, friend and bring him back. Has there
ever been a Dodger you don't want to be brought back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I any time we mentioned anybody? Yeah, bring him back, Yes,
of course there is. You know, Mittie, I like the guy.
I like him as a person, I really do. And
he's got a big.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Heart, but sometimes just can't get couldn't get out of
his own way, you know, y'all see help Week was
a guy that fans loved him. I like this style,
like this hustle, I like this every day go full
full board, full speed. But he made some bad decisions,
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bad decisions on the field sometimes and off the field.
So yeah, he's the guy that I like. I don't
know if they need to bring him back. So yeah,
there you go. How about that?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, well they should not bring him back. I'm just
saying it doesn't matter whatever you're Walker buell Er, get
him back here right now. What are you waiting for? No,
you can't bring everybody back. And I'll say this, and
the Dodgers can revisit anything. There's a reason they let
guys go. There's a reason. I want to say this.
(16:49):
If they thought Corey Seeger was worth X.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Number that reason. Sometimes it's not what we think it
might be, right, But I assure you, if they thought
Corey Seeger when he was up was worth the money
texts paying them, they would design him done done. No.
Because they had Trey Turner already to a deal, they
had a backup plan and Trey Turner was already locked
in for two years. So you know when that number
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got up in the three hundreds, they were we can't
afford that, we don't necessarily need that. We have our
contingency plan with UH, with Trey Turner. And then Trey
Turner left, so they weren't forced to go sign or
they weren't under the gun to sign Corey Seeger at
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that point because they had just traded for a Sureser
and and for UH for Trey Turner.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Turner go, Yes, they could have matched the Phillies,
no problem. They could have paid because they can't pay
anything now. Granted his wife apparently liked the East Coast.
I don't know, but for a hundred million dollars, maybe
you can get used to the sun in California.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So but the Lana guy that don't want to be here, Fred, well,
can you make the argument Corey Siger didn't want to
be here? He signed with you know, he signed with
Texas because Texas backed up the truck said here's here's
the money, and the Dodgers were not willing to do
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that because they they created a backup plan when they
signed Shreser and Trey Turner. So the Dodgers didn't need
to back up the truck for Corey Seeger at that point.
You know, they threw Trey Turner into that deal. And
and you said it actually you were said, you said,
you know, everybody's talking about Schurzer, but the deal is
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that Trey Turner is coming along with this, and that's
the bigger fish, which which you know, I believe he
was as we found out, you know, with the dead
arm and all the things that shres are brought and
was not good for the Dodgers, not Dodger like. Schuser
was not Dodger like. So, but they had a backup
(18:58):
plan and so out there's an opportunity to bring him back.
Five years left on the deal, go get him. Well,
I guess what's your hang up on Corey Seeger? You
don't like him? Huh No, it's not that I don't
like him. There has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I don't think a team that's getting older brings a
guy in for it's thirty two years old, for five
more years.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Prospects. They got prospects coming up the pipeline, Freddie, we're
trying to win the next three years. We're trying to
win while Mookie and Freddy are in their prime still
and they will trying to do and they will. Let's
go for it. No time to be training a young
kid of a young prospect. Let's go get some winners
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that we know can get it done and call it
a day for the next three years and then we'll revamp.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All right, look at it like this. If you'll answer this,
it will answer everything. No, here we go, No, this
will be the answer. Corey Seger is a free agent
right now. He's a free agent. Let's say he's looking
at a five year deal, so he'll be thirty seven
years old. He wants what twenty five to thirty million
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a year, all right, and he has a serious history
of injuries. He's a free agent and that's what it's
going to cost to get him. If you're the Dodgers,
would you sign a thirty two year old, injury prone
infielder for that kind of money for five years? The
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answer is no, you would not. And if you would
not sign him as a free agent, then why in
God's name would you trade for him?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right? Would you pay sixty nine million dollars for thirty
two years one old reliever? Who You've always said they're
like hockey goalies.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, because this guy's gonna have three uh Vesna Cup
seasons and win the award for best Goalie. That's why
now I gotta be honest. Anyway, it was pushed out there,
people kicked it around. I just can't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It'll be a buzzkill on a Tuesday, Fred, What then'll
be a buzz Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'm not Nobody says we don't like him as a person.
All right, Uh okay, the decision must be made. Are
we gonna blow this up or not?
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And the Clippers are basically a dumpster fire if we're
to be fair. Oh, they lost at home to Memphis.
They're six and twenty on the year, and people are
calling for Tylu and Lawrence Frank to be fired, and
the fan base is getting louder. So let's get into
this now, because I find this kind of thing fascinating
(22:47):
in my opinion. First of all, Tyler's not getting fired.
Tylu did not forget how to coach. It's not like
he woke up and said, what is this basketball?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know what I'm doing. He knows how to coach.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And it's not like his message is being lost on
the players because the players aren't very good. They're beat up,
they're older, they're hurt. Lawrence Frank has done, in my opinion,
a masterful job of trying to construct the franchise that
is competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Really, before Frank got their doc, Rivers kind of oversaw
coaching basketball operations.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
But Lawrence Frank's done a pretty good job, and the
Clippers did what they needed to do and they needed
to do something big when Steve Balmer bought the team.
You understand the Clippers. Oh, they had a nice season.
That doesn't make them any more relevant Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The only way they increase their footprint is to take
enormous swings, giant swings.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Try it be different, because that's it. Otherwise you are
always and probably will be, but at least for the
long term future, living in the Lakers shadows.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So they did it. They took enormous swings.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, they gave up well, first they signed Kawhi, then
they gave up an awful lot for Paul George.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I gotta tell you, when.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That deal went down, not one person thought what a
terrible deal for the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Nobody thought that.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Nobody they thought they're going for it, and you gotta
give them credit.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It didn't work. It just it didn't work. What do
you blame the circumstance? It didn't work. They went for it,
you said the circumstance. Yeah, they tried. I heard. I
don't know if I've heard you ever say the circumstance. Well,
you know what I respect, they tried. Somebody's got to
get it. Is what you always say, somebody got to
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get it. Well, somebody's got to get it. But here,
and here's the tough part of this.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
They took the big swing and you have to respect that,
and you have to admire that they went for it
and the window closed, very much like the Lob City Clippers,
they imploded.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
The window closed.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now that's hard because Lob City had a real shot,
and if Kawhi and Paul George had been healthy all along,
they would have had a real shot. You knew both
were somewhat damaged when you signed them, Kawhi worse than
Paul George. As it turns out, they're both needing mass units,
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so neither one was completely healthy. But they sure went
for it, and I respect that. And as they continued
to tweak the roster, if either one of those guys,
if both of those guys have been healthy and playing,
they probably would have won, honestly, because they had a
great roster. And that's on Lauren's Frank for putting it together,
(26:00):
and that's on Tyleru coaching.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
As guys, they would have won a title, is what
you're saying. I think so, Yeah, I think so. I
do think that. Are you giving it. What a four
year window of those guys being together, three year window
of those guys being together being healthy, they would have won.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
If both of those guys had been healthy within four years,
they would have won a title.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, I believe that. I do believe that. That's fair.
That's fair, right, Yeah, that's fair. Oh yeah, they made
it to a conference final with Kaui being hurt, so yeah,
I think they would have won it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It didn't work, all right, And now you're here, even
in this offseason, Rodney, they went out and they made moves,
and honestly, when you looked at what they did and
thought about it, you think these guys got a pretty
good roster.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Older like Corey Seeger old, older, easy, you know, Corey
Seeker is a young spring chicken character. To what the
Clippers did and their roster, guess what, everybody got hurt.
Everybody got hurt, shocked. It has been a disaster. So
now you're here, you're here and you have to think
(27:23):
what do they do now they're six and twenty. I'd
say the playoffs are a long shot at best, even
if they got super hot, you know what I mean? Yeah,
they could, what do you do it? They should have
went for the Cup. That would have kind of that
was their best shot. That was the only chance to
(27:44):
win this year the Cup. What do you do? What
can you do? What can you do? Look, Steve Bomber's
got a lot of money and he can do whatever
he wants. He's the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest owner
in the NBA. You talked about the experience and Paul George, Kawhi, Leonard,
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they had some other players around him too that could
have been you know, that could have took him far.
They did get to the Western Conference finals one year,
and that was without Kawhi, right, Paul George put him
on his back a little bit and they got there.
So going forward to now, that window of Paul George
Kawhi obviously is closed done. So what do you do now?
(28:31):
Then you tried to bring in James Harden and Chris
Paul and Lopez and you're like, Okay, we can we
can make this happen while Kawhi is still here. Well,
no you can't. Ready, No you can't. Kawhi all time
(28:54):
great player, really is talent among most people in this league.
No one would deny that. Get But if you can't
be on the court. That doesn't help you. It doesn't
help you When he's on the court, he is oftentimes
the best player on the court, but he's not on
the court enough to help you. And trying to surround
(29:19):
him with older guys that you know, let's be honest,
that a little bit past their prime, still can still
can make plays and still can have big nights here
and there, but not on a consistent basis. So what
do you do. You almost have to blow it up,
don't you. And I think that's what you have to do. Yeah,
(29:40):
I think you have to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
And I think if they did do it, they would
be honest about it and explain it and say this
is what we're going to do now and come along
with us for this journey. But I think you have
to blow it up because it's not working. James Harden
is still more than serviceable. He's a very good player.
He could go somewhere and help somebody. He might fetch
a light first round pick. Zubats is a talented young
(30:05):
center him. I would hold on to him. I would
hold on to us. Has still gotten a number of
years left. I would not get rid of Zubos right,
But you know what, I would turn this into everybody's
available now, everybody. Here's the problem with Kawhi, considering the
NBA's ongoing investigation into aspiration.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Who wants that a contender?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
If a contender, if there were one player away, if
I were them, I'd make a play for Kawhi. Praise
healthy and maybe Kawhi wins a title for you, but
he's not gonna win it. Here, everybody's available now, everybody.
You just got to say, Okay, thanks to everybody. We
gave it a hell of a shot, but the stars
(30:53):
didn't align for us, so we got to start again.
Because you can't. You can't piecemeal it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's like I I like to say, you can't put
a band aid on a shotgun blast you're still bleed out.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Wait, let me get that straight. You can't put a
band aid on a shotgun blast because you're still bleed out.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah. That being said, you got to
start again. Sucks to say it, tough to hear it.
Probably nobody wants to go through it. If you like
the Clippers, but you're not going anywhere. You are not
going anywhere. How does that sit though? Within the Clippers organization?
(31:37):
Where you've you've kind of been right there on the verge.
You've been you know, your playoff team, you've lost a
few times in the first second round, and you've made
the conference finals one time. And now you're going to
blow it up and say, we're going to take two
to three years to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Get this back. And where do you start. Where do
you start, Freddy, to get this back or get you
a point where you're you're contending not just to make
the playoffs, but you're contending to go win a title
because survive this may be okay in Milwaukee Cleveland, but
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you can't survive being in what you call no man's land,
which is where the Clippers are. They're in the middle,
and and that's that's the worst place. Either you want
to be at the bottom or you want to be
at the top. But you're in no man's land, which
you keep saying, that's the worst place to be.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But there is good news for the Clippers if you
look at it like that, they're at the bottom. Now
there's good news. You see, there's a silver lining. They're
not no man's land. They're going down in quicksand they're
at the bottom. And it would probably behoove them not
to get a lot better. You gotta start again.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Go here we go in the tanking business.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I don't want you to tank. You got a lot
of young guys. I'd let them plays. Every young plays
under the age of thirty. You're in the lineup over
the age of thirty. Take a break tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean, it's an awful spot to be in. And
if it's tied and you're over over thirty and you
wanted the veteran guys that's playing. Okay, if it gets
to halftime and you're close or winning, you tell them
to take a break for the second half. We need
to listen. Don't strain yourself. We need you for the
next night.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Hey, you've given it all you have. Those hammies occur
a lot when you're over thirty, so just sit down. No,
I mean, it's a tough spot to be and it's awful.
It's terrible, But that's where they're at. You can't sugarcoat it.
That's where they're at. It didn't work. The best laid
plans they didn't work. And again, if somebody's got to
(33:59):
get it, it's not because they didn't have a plan
and follow it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Get rid of Lawrence Frank He put together a great roster.
The guys got hurt. What are you gonna do? Steve
Balmer invested heavily in the front office. What are you
gonna do? Who's gonna get it? You're gonna fire Tylo,
fire him, He'll work in fifteen minutes. That's always been
my problem. Somebody's got to get it. Why Why did
(34:28):
somebody always gotta get it? I don't think in this situation,
somebody's got to get it. I don't think so. It
just it happened. It happened, and now they're gotta figure
out what to do next. But they can't continue like
this now. I even feel badly for James Harden.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
He'd better not. You know, you get run out of
the city if you if you do it in this town.
Who mad for James Harden? Why? Why you feel bad
for James Harden?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Because you know what, he's having a nice year. He
should go somewhere where he has a chance to win again. Seriously,
he should. He should go somewhere if somebody wants somewhere
he could win. Kawhi should go somewhere if somebody wants
somewhere he can win. They can't win here. That's not
gonna happen. So give those guys a chance, and maybe
you get something back in return for him, and you
(35:21):
can start start anew because that's exactly what the Clippers
have to do. We'll talk some Lakers. At two o'clock.
Alan Slawe will join the show and tap of the hour,
our buddy Vinnie bon Signor jumps on.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh Let's go. Today's afternoon delight is do You Feel
the Same? By Russ. New Jersey native dropped a single
over the weekend as he continues to build up his
release of the deluxe version of his album entitled The
Elephant and the Rioter. The inspiration for this track came
from personal experience that he had with his divorced parents
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while visiting New York City, where their relationship began. Listening
to his father Remember the Past, Russ ended up creating
the song from his father's point of view on the
day of his parents' engagement anniversary without even realizing it. Again,
Today's afternoon delight is do you feel the same by
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Russ all right and no.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
From the court to the court room with Jacob em Roanni.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Alrighty, now are week we checked with our good friend
Jacob em Ronnie and Jacob.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
How are you today?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I am good.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Happy holidays, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Happy holidays, do you so? Jacob? I was driving.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I was going to take a picture, and I didn't
take a picture because I was driving. So if I
had taken a picture while I was driving, that would
have been illegal. But I'm driving on the ten and
I'm heading out to the desert. I see the billboard
with a new number eight hundred and three, four five, six, seven,
eight nine. Look very very clean and classy, Jacob, I
wanted to point that out.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Well, that means a lot. I appreciate it. You know
that these these type of feedbacks is what drives us, because,
you know, getting into an accident and needing to have
somebody to call should not be a gimmick. Should not
be some you know, some theatrical thing. It should be
very straightforward and for people to understand that, you know,
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we're going to be there and make it very easy
for them to be able to access us. So thank you, Fred.
I really appreciate that feedback.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I love it. I love it. Take it. Let me
ask you, you know, with something minor happens and you're
in an accident and you, you know, bump someone and
either you or the other person decide, hey, let's let's
let's settle this, you know, and and not to go
through insurance company. What's your advice to to that question
(38:14):
of what somebody should do if it's a minor thing
and you don't want to go through insurance and you
just decide, or you offer up, or the other person
offers up, let's just settle this outside of insurance.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Listen. I mean, I think when something is very minor
and no one's injured and people are very hesitant about
getting their insurances involved because they're afraid that their insurance
is going to go up, I think that's I think
that is understood. The problem is people change their mind,
and I can't tell you probably eight out of ten
(38:48):
times when people talk about let's just settle this later,
and it just takes days and days and days and
days and days, and then the other person stops responding,
and then you know you're saying, okay, well what do
I do now? You call the insurance company. The insurance
company is like, well, why did it take you two
months to get back to us? And then the other
part of it is the other person if they don't
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report the accident to their insurance company. At times, insurance
companies can decide not to honor the claim because the
other party is supposed to within a matter of forty
eight hours report an accident to their insurance companies so
their insurance company can investigate what occurred. So, you know,
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with minor accidents, you know, people even say, hey, take
it to this body shop and I'll just pay for it.
And I think it's a good idea, but I think
it's always you know, risky. On bigger accidents or if
someone's injured, one hundred percent them against that because you
always get the short end of the stick.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, all right, Jacob. Are the Lakers real?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I think they're real, Yes, absolutely, And I think it's
a you know, I think we talk about this every year.
I think as we start to get close to the
end of the year, I think it's always good to
be able to see what areas you have to improve
because you know within the next what six weeks to
eight weeks, the trade deadline is coming around, and you
(40:15):
have to start to get better. And I think the
Lakers are real, but I think they need another good
three and D player. I think at times we see
that they get exposed when it comes down to their defense,
and I think bringing on somebody who can play that
three and D and can be locked down. I mean,
(40:35):
the other night we were watching Marcus Smart and you
can see what a difference he makes. I mean, he
misses a game and you can see the difference, and
when he's in there, you can see the difference. So
I think more defense is something that you know the
Lakers will be looking at and hopefully trying to upgrade.
But I think definitely they're for real. And I'll listen
to all these you know, former NBA players talking about
(40:57):
the fact that the Lakers can match up to this
and that you know, we're only a few months into it,
and you know, you look at your strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You think the concern is there any concern that they're
heavily dependent on on the Big three, Like if one
of them go down Austin Reeves, Luca, Lebron. We saw them,
you know, early in the season kind of withstand Lebron
going down. But as the season gets deeper into it,
(41:28):
are they deep enough to survive Lebron or Luca or
Austin Reeves going down.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
So listen, I think we very clearly saw that. You know,
Van Do Doh has not been getting any time and
he's kind of been stuck on the bench, right And
you know, the other night with Austin Reeves out, Vanda
got some time and he was amazing. He was back
to the old Vando. He was incredible on defense. He
(41:56):
brought you know, he brought the fire, and he was
part of the reason that they were able to, you know,
survive that case. You know that I think case that game.
They were able to survive that game in Phoenix. Listen,
I think there's only one ball to go around, right.
I think we've seen Austin Reeves score forty plus when
(42:20):
you know, either Luca's out or Lebron's out. I think
when they're all in there, Austin Reeves has been having
a little bit of a hard time kind of finding
his groove, and I think that's on the coaching staff
to be able to allow each of them to be
able to shine when they're in the game. I think
we got some good players on the bench, they're just
(42:40):
not getting the ball enough. Now do I think that
there should be no tweaks? No, I think you always
need to upgrade. I mean you look at the teams
like okay see, and I mean those guys just appear
to have no faults at all. But every team is
just an injury or so away from getting a reality check.
And I think, you know, the Lakers are deaf. Me
going to try to upgrade and get some role players
(43:04):
to come in to be able to step up, you
know during these games. Rodney.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
All right, Jacob, before we let you go, our listeners
love when you offer advice. So I have a question
for you today, and where I live, this happens all
the time.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Cars and trucks.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What is the difference between commercial truck accidents versus accidents
with regular cars?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Yeah, so you know, commercial truck accidents are usually people
who are driving these vehicles or these trucks during worktime. Right,
They're trying to deliver something. They're trying to get from
point A to point B. A lot of times they
may be late, they're under a time constraint. So a
lot of times when we have a client who calls
us and says they've been hit by a commercial truck
(43:48):
or by a tractor trailer, they've been hit by an
eighteen wheeler, the first thing we try to do is
to figure out whether safety checks has been done on it,
What was the you know, what was the program that
driver had to follow. Have they gone enough for rest
because a lot of those things can add to the negligence,
you know, vice versa. If you've got on the other
(44:09):
side two regular people, you know, not working, getting into
an accident, you're not asking them when is the last
time you made a delivery or how long have you
been working. I think one of the biggest things with
commercial trucks and specially tractor trailers and eighteen wheelers is
they have a heightened duty in order to pay attention.
They go through training. They have to know how to
(44:31):
maneuver these big, you know, trailers and eighteen wheelers that
take up so much of the freeways or the streets
when they make these y turns. There's a training in place,
and often when our clients are hit by those type
of vehicles. The injuries are much bigger because of the
you know, sort of a David and Goliath between a
(44:53):
small call and an eighteen wheeler, and a lot of
times you know, we go after figuring those things out.
It's a big difference. You need to have an attorney
who does those kind of cases. Make sure to ask
the attorney you're talking to what their you know, results
from those cases are, and just make sure you get
somebody who knows how to do that kind of work.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Got it outstanding, great, Jacob, Thank you for the chat.
As always, you have a terrific week.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
I appreciate it. Just one more thing, Fred before I
jump off, I want to let you know Rodney know
that you know, we have a new projen in the family.
And yes, uh you know. Rodney's been great every time
we're at the games. He hangs out with my boys.
But my oldest one just got worried that he has
(45:40):
been accepted and he's our new Trojan.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So that is fantastic. I love it. I love it. Congratulations, Congratulations.
It is forever changed.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Now, that's right. That's right. So he's going to be
fighting on for a long time. And I know you've
been You've been great giving him a lot of advice.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
So I just want to say, whoever he needs you
know I'm always there for you and your family and
whatever he needs he wants to call me. My son
is about is a junior now there, so uh, they
can exchange numbers. He can help him out as well. Man,
So anything you need, absolutely appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Thank you, guys, you got it.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Jesus shoot people multiply, do you hear me? We multiply people, multiply.
You're everywhere. God all right. When we come back, we'll
start the next hour. We're talking to NFL with Vinnie Bonsignor,
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