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December 17, 2025 • 40 mins

We discuss Adam Silver's comments about the NBA potentially expanding soon and whether or not it would water down the league. We also dive back into our hour 1 discussion about abandoning your favorite team if ownership isnt committed to winning.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete five
seventy LA Sports. Thanks to David Vasse for jumping on
in our one and coming up next hour, Ned Collet's
on the show, so everybody get ready for that because
we love when Ned comes on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
As a kid, I don't know why you know what
float your boat when you're a kid, and Rodney, I
don't even want to know what float your boat because
obviously there'd be some stuff that we couldn't say. You know,
that's between you and your parents. But you know what
I loved. You know what I loved. I loved when
there were expansion teams. I remember as a kid growing

(00:36):
up in Detroit, the Atlanta Falcons became an expansion team,
and my father shared season tickets with somebody, and all
I wanted to do was see the Atlanta Falcons play.
That's it why, because it was a new team.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I loved that.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And now my father took me to the so many
Lion games a year, and I wanted to see the Falcons,
but he didn't have the tickets for the Falcons, so
I had to go see the Bears, which I didn't
realize was pretty cool because I always see the Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
With the Falcons playing in Detroit that very first year
that they became a team. Yes, okay, you wanted to
see the Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You were deperately, So I made a sign that said
I want to see a new team play and I
held it up and nobody acknowledged me. And I was
very sad because I wanted to see the new franchise.
Then moved to Phoenix when I was ten. I was
there for the Phoenix Sun's very first game in franchise
history and its existence. They played the Russian national team.

(01:40):
Oh wow, And I was there the Phoenix un that's right, you.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Remember that Phoenix Sun's right, I was there for that. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I love expansion teams and it's I don't know why,
I just kind of love it when new teams come
into existence. So the NBA has been kicking around the
idea of expanding for years. Everybody knows it. We all
know it. It's been kicked around and kicked around. To
be honest with you, next year was the year they
were going to consider it. That that had already been determined.

(02:15):
But now it's official because Adam Silver said, you know
what next year. Next year, we're gonna get down and dirty,
we're gonna figure this thing out. We're gonna seriously consider expanding.
And then you have the question of where would they go?
Where do you think they're gonna go? Where do you
think they're gonna end up? Two teams? Where do you
think they're gonna go? If you had to getch Yeah,

(02:37):
where do you think they're gonna go?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh, they're going.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Definitely one's Vegas, that's one. Where do you think the
other one will be? Yeah, it's probably going to be Seattle?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Done? Yeah? Okay, so there's the mystery.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, oh, we don't know what's gonna happen, and everybody's
in play here, but you know these two are great cities,
but we're not saying anything about it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So a few things.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
First, you really think if they're gonna put a team
in Vegas and Seattle, they don't know who the owners
are right now? Do you're really or they don't know
the two groups that are gonna bid for it right now?
Do you think next year Adam Silver will come to
the podium and say, we've decided we'll expand to Vegas

(03:26):
and Seattle. So whoever wants the teams, let us know.
Just let us know, and then we'll pick somebody. That's
not how this works. So for him to even suggest, yeah,
we're gonna take a look at this next.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Year means it's more up than down. That's the year.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now, let's talk about the advantage. The advantage is it's
cool you have new teams. Talk about the disadvantage. Bad
teams are already bad. Deluting the player pool.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Will make it worse. That just makes sense.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But it will be fun because you'll have a chance
to build and grow. And also, when you are an
expansion team, please know this. The current partners the current owners,
and by the way, their ownership piece shrinks, so they
have one thirtieth of the NBA each owner. Now they

(04:31):
would have one thirty second, so their ownership parts shrinks.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
And it all comes down to money. But when you
have an expansion team, the NBA won't do it like
the NHL. I promise you that, because the NHL set
it up where Seattle and Vegas would be in a
situation where they would be competitive. Now, Vegas really was
competitive and Seattle kind of blew it. They're better this year,
but their front office didn't do what Vegass did because

(05:00):
they thought we got to succeed in Vegas. We can't
put a gun up here or it won't work. The
NBA won't do that. The NBA is not gonna do that.
I promise you that.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Dude, you think, Freddie you said something, you said the
talent pool. You think with the expansion of two teams,
it waters down the talent and the game won't be
as competitive because there's you don't think there's a lack
of or you do think there's a lack of talented players,

(05:32):
or do you think there's organizations that just don't know
how to construct the team or is it just too many?
Two more teams would mean that you said, water down
that there's not enough quality basketball players for the league
to be competitive, and it's going to be worse than what.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It is now.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Some teams are going to be worse. Bad teams shall
be worse. Yeah, and you make a great point. A
part of that has to do with the fact that
he's ever putting the teams together isn't doing a very
good job. They're not putting it together properly, So that's
on them. But it would it would dilute play that's okay,

(06:13):
because you'd have these two new franchises.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The thing is this, what is the objective. Well, I'll
tell you what.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
If I own a team in the NBA and I
invite Rodney Pete and his group to join the NBA,
and you've paid the fee and you've got the franchise,
and of course you will be placed strategically during the draft,
so you'll probably the National Hockey League moved him way
up and didn't let him protect as many players.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
They said, go for it. The NBA won't do that
because the.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Golden Knights were immediately a success.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Right right. So, and here's here's my point.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Here's why the NBA owners won't do that, because they
don't want you to succeed Rodney. They don't want the
Vegas team to be good. Now, no, they wanted to
be successful because they all make money. But really, I'm
you know, I'm awful. I've earned the right because I'm
so garbage to get the first pick. Well, now we

(07:10):
have the expansion teams, let's be there. Let's give them
the first pick. Hell no, you know what, as a
matter of fact, let's ensure these guys are pretty good
from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Because it'll be good for all of us. I suck.
I don't want you to get better than me. I'm awful.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
What I'm gonna I'm gonna help you get better. I'm
already a joke. No, that's not how the.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
NBA will do it.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It will take a while for those teams to grow,
and who will they end up with older guys or
guys a bad contract.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
So you don't think they're gonna like limit the like.
And like you said in hockey, right, it was usually
with expansion, you can protect a bunch of players and
then you can poach. We're on hockey team the biggest nights,
we're able to poach some of the best players in
the league, and they got them on their team. You see,
the NBA is not going to allow no, the new

(08:01):
expansion team to poach other players. That of the fourteen
players on the NBA roster, twelve of them will be protected. Yeah,
and you can only poach two and we'll put them
at the end of the bench. Right, And here's the thing,
here's the guys that'll be left unprotected. Who's got a
garbage contract three years, seventy five million dollars left.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That guy's unprotected. Go get him, Go get he's yours.
Take him. What's this guy, He's got eighty million dollars
over the next two years, he's available, Go get him.
Pick them, you you got them. All they'll do is
dump all the bad contracts. That's what they'll do. So

(08:45):
then the new teams will have some guys that people
know but who is not wanted where they're at.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So what happens.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
The team that dumps the money gets better because they
can go out and replace this albatross around their neck.
The new team has somebody with some name value who
does every opening of any business in town to promote.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
The team.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Then gets old and they don't win because now they
spend too much money on these old guys.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, the guys that had the old guys get younger.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what will happen, and so it'll take forever for
these new franchises.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
You win, right unless you guarantee they win. Okay, here's
the deal, everybody.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
You're not going to guarantee them a lottery pick for
the next four years, five years?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah? Oh? No, that many? Oh are you kidding?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You get the final two picks of the lottery every year, guaranteed. Yeah, fine,
for two years, that's what you get. Congratulations for the NBA. Well,
you know you get to be in the lottery, right,
but but you're guaranteed the last two picks of the lottery.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's what you get.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So you could technically be be the number you get
the number one pick, you get that pink pung ball. Okay,
now now you're thinking you're get into ping pong ball
no matter what. But you could also get that number
one ping pong ball, so you could get two picks
in the lottery. Yeah, that's what you'd have to do.

(10:11):
That's that's what you'd have to do, because otherwise it
would take you years. Unless they did this, every team,
good news, protect five guys. Everybody else is available. Yeah five,
you get five, and once you lose one, you can't
lose another. Now, if you want to play that game,

(10:32):
team any team can they can only Look, the max
they can lose is one guy expansion.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
If you want to play that game, Now, those expansion
teams will be decent, yes, because all you do is
pick the sixth man off every roster. Of course, that's
what they should do. That's how they should do it.
They won't because theos are freak what do.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
You mean the Playersssociation? You wouldn't go for it either.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I bet you they let them. They'll let them protect eight.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Because that is a rotation with one more guy kind
of so you can protect eight after that, everybody's fair
game here. But they you know what they should do.
They should let them protect This is what they should do.
They should let them protect six. That's the plan.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Why so you get the sixth man, right, So you
get you started, and you get the sixth man that's protected,
and now you've got to make a decision. Is it
that sixth man or is it that seventh guy that's
still valuable too, because as you said, most rotations are
seven eight guys, right, So you're saying only protect six,

(11:49):
So now you're actually losing somebody of value. It's gonna hurt.
It's gonna hurt because if you say eight, you can
protect eight. You know nine through twelve you're good. Okay,
those guys they're getting what they're not getting. They getting
garbage minutes anyway, So you know, you're good with that.
But if you cut it down to six, then you've

(12:10):
got a decision to make because that balance between that
sixth man or that seventh man could be very close
on your team, and who's more valuable.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's how you do it. See now we figured it out. Now,
I love the expansion idea. Now, this will be great.
Just protect six. If the league wants to do the
right thing for the league, Rodney, that's what they would do. Yeah,
the league's better when everybody's good. That's what they would do.
They would protect six, which of course they won't do that. No,

(12:42):
they won't, but they should do that. They won't. Teams
and owners they would fight that. Well, he's six. Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
We can only protect six of our No, no, we
have a seventh. We have an eight man rotation. You're
telling me I can't. No, they're not going to go
for it. Fight that to the end. When we came
on the air today we talked about something. We want
to get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Jim Bowden, the former Big league general manager now an analyst,
said people are complaining all the time in baseball about
the fact they can't win, and the Dodgers can. He said,
in the bottom fifteen markets, they haven't even won a
World Series in a decade.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We found out it was Kansas City the last go around.
Here's what he says.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
He said, I told somebody, you're a pirate fan, but
you're complaining because your team has no shot. Well, you
can retire as a pirate fan or trade yourself to
the Dodgers. You can just trade yourself. I'm not a Dodger.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Fan, but I grew up in Pittsburgh. That's right. My
father works in the steel mills. That's right, family, uncle, grandfather,
that's right. Word.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yes, And you know what I say to you, Rodney,
what time to leave home, time to leave stuck. Got
to send you off on your own, young man, out
into the world, the world of Chavez ravine. Jim Bowden says,
switch call it a day, pick a new team, no harm,

(14:11):
no foul.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Imagine telling Dodger fans, hey, you can't be a Dodger
fan anymore. You need to, you know, switch your allegiance. Yeah,
but it's different because the Dodgers win. They have not
always won, but right now they haven't. But still even
the folks that didn't show up during the court days
were still Dodger fans.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
They weren't leaving the Dodgers to go be a Padres fan,
or a Diamondbacks fan or anybody like that, they're still
Dodger fans, right, You're suggesting that a pirate fan who's
been a Pirate fan since since the Willie Stargel Dave
Parker days and we are family, that they they go
and say, Okay, we're Philly fans.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now this right up the road. We'll just go to
Philadelphia instead of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's saying you. You know what he's saying, Man up,
be an adult, make your own choices. If you're unhappy
in your current situation, leave if you're gonna complain every day,
if your life. If you if you were in a
marriage where you complained every single day and it was bad,
you'd leave. You'd leave for your own survival. So same
premise here when it comes to sports. He's saying, if

(15:21):
you're not happy with your team, go be a fan
of somebody else. That's what he's saying. So the question
becomes it's an interesting argument. Do you buy what he's selling?
Could you possibly ever just I'm in look at poor
Kevin we an hour one, we talked about the fact
that Kevin lives in a world where he cries for
help because he's an Angel fan. He's like brainwashed.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know what's impressive about that? Though?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Kevin doesn't shy away from that. He's put that out
in the airwaves. He's an Angel fan, so he's not
he's not running from the Angels. He's very he sticks
his chest down and I'm an Angel fan and good, bad, indifferent.
He's been an Angel fan. That's impressive because he's not
one of those people you're talking about or suggesting Fred

(16:09):
that they run away from their organization.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
He's not doing that because he can't, because he's trapped,
because he's in a cult.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
So what do you think of it? Right? What do
you think of the theory? Jim Bowden said, you're a fan.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
You're a Dodger fan, whatever team you're a fan of,
and you know they can never ever win.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Can stop you for a second, didn't you say you
grew up in Detroit. I know you just spent a
lot of your formative years there, but you grew up there.
You're a Tiger fan, a Lions fan.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Your kids, for whatever reason, are Allions fans. They sure
are for the majority of their lives. The Lions were
pretty terrible, awful as sure as hell were fans of
that team though, weren't they?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
But I never told anybody does have to do with anything.
Nobody knew, So it was my own cross to bear,
my own cross to bear right.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know what, So why did.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
You continue to support with them while theyre it's so terrible?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Then?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Hold on, this is a bit you know what, Kevin,
I would like to address this. I have an answer
to that very question. On the other side, Yes, we'll
do it. On the other side, I have an answer
to that question. And by the way, would you ever

(17:22):
divorce your team because you knew they had no chance
to win?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Eight six, six nine eight seven.

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Speaker 3 (17:42):
Come on, Freddy, let's go. Let's keep it moving because
you were You're on a roll. Fred You're on a roll.
You gotta keep that role going. I don't know what
the hell you were talking about, but I know I
know so.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh, by the way, if you could divorce your team,
call us. We'd like to hear it if it's humanly
possible for you to do so. In eight six, six, nine,
eighty seven, two five seventy. So the feeling was you
have the opportunity to basically divorce your team and move
on to another team instead of complaining that your team
is not any good. And Kevin asked, he said, you know,
I was bought in Detroit. Grew up with the Lions

(18:18):
and Tigers, he said, And if if I call you,
you'll see I'm wearing a Lions sweatshirt. To be honest
with you, So, Kevin, I think the point you were
trying to make was I never got rid of my team, right.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yes, that you even said that. It's like if the
Lions are playing the Rams or the Charges, a local team,
I always have the local team to win.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
But otherwise it is recently as last.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Week, last week, right right, So here here's the thing
for me to say that I can tell you this
now teams NFL teams aside from the Lions, I do
root for the Raiders. And I would say that I
root for the Raiders as much as I do the Lions.

(19:04):
I root for the Raiders. I would be lying if
I and then you get to the local teams. I
love Kevin Demoff. They've done a great job. I root
for the Rams. I root for the home teams. When
the home teams win, it's good for business. Now, I
was born in Detroit. Yeah, I'm a Tiger fan, but

(19:25):
I gotta be honest with you. I'm a much bigger
Dodger fan. If the Dodgers and Tigers met in the
World Series, I would root.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
For the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I still like the Tigers, don't get me wrong, but
I'm a much bigger Dodger fan.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Alan Trammel or Bill Russell.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
There you go, David or Lou Whittaker.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Now do this, Davey Lopes or Jerry Lumpy, Jerry Lumpy.
There you go, remember Jerry Lumpy. No, those are fair questions.
Those aren't paused? There Fred, you paused, Well, I only
pause for this reason.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Pause for this reason because when you really look at it,
I mean, come on, Alan Trammel's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Go with you to say the least.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, Alan travels ever for there for ever too, just
the mainstay.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
With the Tigers. But I'll say Bill Russell, Yeah, he's
a friend. I like Bill Russell. Yes, I mean you're talking.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
About tram Okay, you.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Know what I mean. No, I got it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I got it. I got it. Danny McClain, or who
did I say?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Who?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Dare I say, Don Drysdale, Don Drysdell or who Danny McClain. Oh,
the last thirty game winner? Game winner? You know what
I have to do?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I gotta tell you what I have to do. I don't
know if you're gonna like hearing it. I might have
to go Denny McClain.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
I respect it, Fred, I might have to.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Was a bad man.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, imagine winning thirty games, Yeah, thirty games in
mains league baseball.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
And I'm not saying Don Drysdale. We know Don Drysdale.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Now you give me this Denny McClain or Don Drysdale.
I'm going Danny McClain. If you give me Don Drysdale
or Joe Sparma, I'm going Don Dale.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Come on, of course.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Or if I give you Denny McClain or Sandy Kofax,
You're going Kofax, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
You have to? Yes?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, right, yes, okay? Could you divorce your team Oscar
and l A Oscar. Just try to try to be
objective here. Try to be objective like that. Oscar can
answer for himself. Well, just like I don't know. I
don't know if I trust Oscar. Right now, go ahead, Oscar?

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Yeah, I mean, well, starting off, you know, my team
is the Cleveland Browns, so I'll just start with that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, okay, wait, wait wait, Oscar, Oscar, Oscar, I got
I got to jump in because are you from Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Do you have any association with Cleveland? Why? Cleveland?

Speaker 7 (22:19):
No, No, no association with Cleveland. I didn't have a team,
an NFL team growing up, because obviously LA didn't have one.
So a bunch of my friends just threw, uh, you know,
some of the worst teams in at that time, and
I picked you know, from the ball and and that
that was it. That was a team that I.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
You and my son are Ja are the only people
I know that have no relationship or no history with
Cleveland and yet are die hard Cleveland Browns fans. R
J is a die hard Cleveland Browns fan. For I,
I don't know where it came from. I never played
for Cleveland. He has no you, no friends, no family,

(23:01):
no anybody that's ever coached or been with Cleveland. But
he is a die hard Cleveland Browns fan. So I mean,
I guess I get it.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Yeah, you know, they always tell me I'm a man
much respects and everything, but oh man, you know, it's
just it's just heartbreaking, you know, season after season.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, and divorce them.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
You know. I'm on the fence. I'm really on the fence.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
And uh, maybe I.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Did grow up grew up a couple of years up
in Seattle. So I guess just like Fred, you know,
I have a little soft spot for the for the Seahawks,
you know. So we'll see, we'll see, all.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Right, thank you, asir, thank you. Okay, aloha, you know
what that means. Let's go to Hawaii. Angela is on
the line, Angela, could your divorce your team?

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Hello?

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Fred, Hello Rodney mele kalik maka.

Speaker 10 (24:07):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
So I threw the Rams to the curb. I grew
up in La. I threw the Rams to the curb
because they ruined my childhood because every time my dad
was watching and I sit there and watch it with him,
Fran Tarkington ruined us at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, yeah, so you just had enough.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
That and I didn't like I didn't like what Georgia did,
and I don't like that. They they threw us to
the curb and moved once. So no disrespect to.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
To u Ed, but I'm not a fan.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
La girl. But the Rams, when fran Tarkenton was doing
it to the Rams, it was in the playoffs. They
were at least making the playoffs. Angela.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
So because you're a kid and you're just like hoping
for more and like that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Every year?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
That was quite the sound effect. Uh, Angela, let me
ask you a question. You know, you said you didn't
like Georgia. Now you didn't like Georgia because of what
you did with the teams or what she did with
her husbands.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why didn't you like.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
Georgia what she did, what she did with her husband?

Speaker 9 (25:34):
And I thought the team, I thought the team belonged
to the to the sons for the kids.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, no, let's just say, and you know what, Hey,
things happen in life. You don't know what's going to
happen at any point, Angela.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Let's just say forgot. Yeah, shoot, her husband's how can
I phrase that plural? You say it very plural?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, her husband her husbands uh uh came upon untimely demises.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
She was like an early stage Carol Baskin. You would say,
you want.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
To put it that way? Did she wrote the book?

Speaker 5 (26:13):
That's what it is.

Speaker 9 (26:14):
I thought it was.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
I thought I thought, have.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
A good night, have a good day.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Rodney's digging out.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm still here, Angela, I'm still here. What else do
you have to say, Angela? Anything that you're done?

Speaker 9 (26:37):
I I'm wishy washy. I go with whatever coach and
and quarterback I like and and I kind of as
soon as Shador started playing with the Browns, I kind
of started liking them too. And Joe Burrow's Heisman Trophy
speech made me try. So I was a Bengals fan.
What Fred Dang you asked me all this.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I just want.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Angelo, you have you got to pick one team to
go to the Super Bowl that you would love and
win it.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
What team would it be?

Speaker 9 (27:10):
Well, i't know, lie of the Steelers because I'm rooting
for the Senior Citizens.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Okay, so you're a big AARP fan.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, all Angela, listen to me. Have a very
good week and good weekend. How's the weather in Hawaii?

Speaker 9 (27:31):
It's been rainy, it's been rainy, and it's supposed to
be rainy all next week, so if anybody thinking it's coming,
they should just cancel and wait. Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Chamber of commerce to keep the people out, Angela, that's
what they told you to say.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
No for real, it's it's rainy and don't count.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Why don't be don't be crowding our streets. That's that's
what she's saying.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
No, I ain't even like that because I'm because I'm in.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
I'm on molek right now.

Speaker 9 (28:01):
The only thing crowding up my back the only thing
crowding up in my backyard is a whole bunch of
is it hurd of deer?

Speaker 10 (28:09):
Got deer up in the back?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Muldkai is a leper island, right.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
Well, they had a little colony where they would put
people that got leprosy back in.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
The day, right They still don't do that.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
I think it's extinct, isn't it leprosy?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know what you do over there, Angela. I
don't know your where traditions and.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
Why oh you know what, Fred, you are invited anytime
to come on over and spend a day with me.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You and Robney come on down all right, we'll take it.

Speaker 9 (28:40):
Come on down. We can go hunting, we can go fishing,
we can go golfing on our little shabby golf course.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, all right, listen, that's a wonderful invitation. We're going
to take it under advisement.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
All right, Yeah, it ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Bye, Ronnie, go to Brady best? Is she not the greatest,
the best.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Love? When she calls, she makes the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Oh, we got two more people on hold. You want
to talk Paul and uh.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know who the other one is.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, let's take it, all right, Well we'll see if
they hold on. Hold on because we want to get John.

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Speaker 2 (29:40):
Come on, Freddy on a hump day, Rodney p Fred Rogan,
Let's get it in. We got a couple more, right, Fred,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, we got a couple more. Yeah, we gotta get
these in. So let's do it because we have we
have net Colletti coming up next. Yeah, we do all right,
all right, so we have a few more. Now, let's
get him in. Where's Andrea Andrew a city of Commerce. No,
it's Andrew, It's Andrew Andrew, Andrew Andrew.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm sorry. Listen, a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Are undergoing changes in their life, but you are Andrew Andrew.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
You say you stick with your team, right.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
That's right, no matter what, no matter what period.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:23):
And I'm born and raised in California and the Browns
are my team. It's not going to change.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wow, the Browns. How many? How many people do we have?
The Browns are their team? I don't know that interesting's
from it really is. It's like the Browns.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
The Browns and football are like the Cubs in baseball.
They're Cubs fans everywhere around the country that love the
Cubbies and their cup fans. Never lived in Chicago, never
been to Chicago, but cub fans. And then they are
Browns fans that, for whatever reason, have no connection to Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Do you have a collection to Cleveland.

Speaker 11 (31:03):
Let me explain, Rodney.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I grew up my father. Do you have a connection.
My father was a he.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
Was a Rams fan. He loved in Sarragamo. But I
couldn't find a connection with the Rams. Then in eighty five,
I was a Miami I was a Miami Hurricane fan,
and when Bernie Kosar won the championship, he went to
Cleveland and that was when I became a fan ever
since then.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Wait wait, wait, wait, Andrew, you know the Rams started
in Cleveland. The Rams started in Cleveland. Yeah, and so
there's your connection.

Speaker 11 (31:36):
Okay, I'm good with that.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
He didn't know that, Fred, So it was not his connection.
His connection was Bernie Cuzar.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
That's true, That's very true.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I get it.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
I'm glad he's doing good right now. He was just
suffering from some health ups.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, yeah, we're monitoring that and we wis him, you know,
obviously wish him well.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Andrew, thanks for the call, but thanks for the call.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
But yeah, there's a lot of fun that just for
whatever reason, Cleveland has been in a place and not
just because we're talking about on the radio and even
I talked about our day, but I run into so
many people that are Cleveland Brown's fans, diehard Browns fans,
have no connection to Cleveland. I don't understand. It's again,

(32:21):
it's like the clubs. You know, my dad was a
big Cubs fan. He was a Cubs fan. But he
was a Cubs fan because the Cubs did spring training
in Mason, right, Arizona, Right, So that's where we grew up,
and he grew up, and so he used to go
see them in spring training. Became a Cubs fan. But man,

(32:41):
it's like the Cubs and the Browns for football. It's
amazing how many people love them.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
All.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Right, let's go to line five, Ronnie Lyn five. It's
Jackson in La. Jackson, what is your advice?

Speaker 8 (32:54):
I live in LA, but I've been a Rocky fan
my whole life.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm from Denver, and I think it might be time
to jump ship on the Rockies. There it is, it's
a lot, Yeah, there it is. Come see the light,
my friend.

Speaker 10 (33:09):
Come.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I mean I lived less than a mile from
Dodgers Stadium.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
I've been going to games for three years. I feel
like I've gotten enough credibility to be a Dodgers fan
at this point.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Done done. You know what.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
We'd like to send you something, but we have nothing
to send you. But I'll tell you what. We welcome
you to the family.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So so are you are you ready to abandon the Rockies?
They're dead to.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Him unless unless Monfort family sells that that.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Would be the only thing that could give me back.
But right now, where this team is, there's no chance.
All right, Jackson, thanks for the call, appreciate it. Uh
let's go to Gina. Oh god, all right, it's what
time is it? It's five on one in the east.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
He's changed. This guy's lickered up. Gino in the appen Virginia.
Go ahead, Gino.

Speaker 10 (34:00):
Come on, Fred, I just started my first beer after
doing all of the Christmas lives. Give me a break, boy.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah everything, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (34:10):
Kill now, Fred jill Ow, It's Christmas.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Do you know every day is Christmas for you? My friend?

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Or you you're a scrooge.

Speaker 12 (34:19):
You ain't.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Every day is no Christmas for you.

Speaker 10 (34:21):
I love you, Bred, You're not a scrooge. You're the best.
You're the Dean.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Damn right, I got thank you?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Go ahead, you.

Speaker 10 (34:27):
Anyway, fight on Friday, pride on, knock them outside the
head for me one day anyway. I'm all La band
born and raised. I cannot bandwagon anybody but one good
pastor from the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I don't think he is anymore.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
Tony Evans, he once said always have a good team
in your pocket that might represent your rams when they lose.

Speaker 11 (34:55):
Go la oh l a all day, dang us.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's right, all right, thank you, Gino, thank you? No,
when do should we wrap it up here?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Kevin? Take these other calls and just do it? Yeah,
let's go all right? Line for Paul will go to Noguel.
What do you think?

Speaker 8 (35:13):
Hi, guys, I know only have like twenty seconds here,
But I'm sixty eight years old. I've born and raised
in Van Eyes. Now I live in Orange County, but
nineteen sixty five is my first memory of a Dodger
World Series. I'm at eight years old. I've been a
Dodger fan ever since. And I've been through the O'Malley's,

(35:34):
both O'Malley's. I've been through the McCourt area. I've been
through Billy Gribarca, who's playing third base, Bill Siedek is
playing third base. But my allegiance has never waived, and
to the point where, even during the mccore era, I
got a a Dodger Los Angeles Dodger tattoo on my
right arm. And I don't think Fred really believes what

(35:54):
he's suggesting. I surprised at about even suggesting that to
change allegiance. And I bet you if you talked to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Okay, all we got to let him go. We got
a bed.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I knew where it was going. If you talked to
Chicago fans, they would never abandon the Cubs.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's true. They won't know never.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
That's why so many are so sad. Let's go to
Dwarte Spencer, go ahead, what do you think, Spencer?

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Hey, guys, longtime Steeler fan. I just wanted to touch
base and say that I would never break break barriers
with my Steelers. And it makes me really sad to
see everybody really talked bad on Mike tom and I
think he's the greatest head coach of the Steelers of
all time. And I just, uh, you know, I grew up.

(36:53):
I'm from California. Like you've asked a couple other people.
When we first moved here. I want Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 13 (37:01):
Dice up the Ravens and I thought that was the
coolest team that I've ever seen in my life, and
I have I'd never break tides with them, never, Fred.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You hear that, Fred, I hear ever, I hear all.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Right, guys, did not hear him say that my Tom
was the greatest coaching Steeler history in history.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, Chuck Noll.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Chuck Noll never coached there. He never was a coach
in Pittsburgh, obviously.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yes, Bill Coward didn't do anything there either.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Bill Coward. Now he's always worked for CBS. He's never
been in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Right, got it all?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
We got to wrap it up. We have to wrap
it up. There's one man that can wrap it up.
There's only one. There's only one. This man will have
the insight necessary. He will have the wisdom that will
carry with us throughout this day and perhaps into early
next year.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
This is the man.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
That shares an awful lot about his life at times.
But we will see if he will answer answer this
one whimsical question. We welcome on, Mitch, Mitch. You will
wrap it up.

Speaker 12 (38:07):
Happy holidays, everybody, mitchim Fred Roddy fight on. I always
be a USC fan, Dodgers, always be a Dodger fan.

Speaker 13 (38:17):
My farm.

Speaker 12 (38:18):
My father grew up in Brooklyn and lived right across
made Fields, so did my mother in law. My fallow
nine Kola rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Mitch, Mitch. Mitch, I've always wondered what is your accent?
Where are you from?

Speaker 12 (38:33):
I'm from stan I was moved, yeah, nineteen sixty two.
I'm a medium, Fred, just in case you wanted to
send me something. Just kidding. I'm just showing Fred, you're the.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
D I'm a I'm a maniac. What do you saying?

Speaker 12 (38:50):
No, I say you're the dean.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
You know before that?

Speaker 11 (38:52):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
What?

Speaker 12 (38:55):
I'm a meeting.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Oh I'm a minch. Oh see that's nice.

Speaker 12 (38:58):
A medium A Meetingum, I a meeting, meeting.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Enough Dodgers.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
That was the job where? That's too good? I got great?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Mitch. Are you in the car with somebody?

Speaker 12 (39:15):
I'm in my car. I'm backing up, but I will
make sure to hit my daughter's car. But I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I got the breaks on.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Okay, car, and you're backing up? Right, he's backing up?

Speaker 12 (39:25):
I stopped. Is this the last weeks?

Speaker 11 (39:30):
The show you take on Christmas?

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Break again?

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Christmas recess?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Here? No, we have more shows, more shows.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
A show.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Your family with Dodger fans, Mitch, Mitch, your family with
Dodger fans.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Don't encourage her? Ebittsfield and Brooklyn.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Right.

Speaker 12 (39:48):
My father was My mom was born in Columbia.

Speaker 11 (39:50):
She was a soccer fan.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Okay, all right, well goal to you, Mitch, goodbye. We
got ned Colletti ConA.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
You didn't, you didn't. I had to Goldie been goli.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh my god, you know he got gold, running, gold running,
he got got gold.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh my god. All Ned Colletti's next.

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