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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's go Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy LA Sports Rodney belated, Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Belated, Yes, absolutely, Happy Thanksgiving to you. Fred hoping he
had a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You know, I did.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here's the thing, and I don't know how many people
are going through this, whatever that thing is, or you
had it. I think whatever that thing is, it's going around.
I don't know if it's a cold. I don't know
if it's the flu. And I do know this.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It lingers. I got it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I got it, and the people in my house kind
of got it as well. Jack came over and shared
that with everybody, so then everybody felt like Jack jen
Jack was fine, but everybody else wasn't. And it it
kind of lingers, you know what I mean? Yeah, headache, Yeah, sniffles,
hard to sleep, body ache, That's what I have.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, No, it is. It is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And it started like a little bit before Thanksgiving and
a lot of people were getting in and you're like
writing it off and no big deal, and then you
get it and it's like you are You're lethargic, you're
this and that it's flew like symptoms and all those things,
but you're right at the end, you're like, oh, okay,
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I'm getting over this, but I still feel the effects
of what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Feel good.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm feeling better, but not all the way back. Right,
So you're feeling better but not better, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah? Yeah, So that's how Thanksgiving was for us.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Otherwise it was great. Spent the time with the family.
It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't know if the Lakers have come down with
what I have, but last night they sure looked like
they were sick. Phoenix put on one them pretty good,
and you go, well, what does this mean?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It means nothing, to be very honest with you. I mean,
the Lakers are one of the best teams right now
in the NBA. They were not going to continue on
this incredible streak. At one point it would come to
an end. Its samely, it simply came going in last
night local wasn't great. Uh, they lost.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Funny, and they're not supposed to lose after seventh straight
Fred they went, they won seven straight games, and and
how do you lose the Phoenix? How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I get well, you want to add insult to injury.
How do you lose the phoenix when Devin Booker goes
out of the game.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, to show you that there are to get
to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We talk about this in touch on it a little bit,
especially when EDI's on but and he'll be on one
to three today. But there are good players. You don't
get to the n b A, the NFL, the NHL, MLB.
You don't get there by being mediocre. You get there.
You are the elite of the elite. And any given night,
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anytime during the course of a season, a guy is
going to show who he really is, or a group
is going to show who they really are. And you
can't take anything for granted. I know they're especially well
in college there's always mismassage and you you're gonna teams
are gonna overwhelm some teams because it's just overall talent.
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But in the professional ranks, you're not gonna always just
roll the ball out there and overwhelm an opponent because
they've got too many good players making too much money,
that have too much pride, that are just not gonna
just roll over just because you wear the purple and
gold or you wear that the Celtics green. You you
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got to play. You gotta play every night. And that's
and that's in all professional sports.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Butt line is this that a bad night, that and
off night that happens. Regular season is is very long.
It's very very long, and stuff happens during the regular season.
So the Lakers, here's what's interesting. There are four and
four against teams that enter December with winning records. So
you go, well, listen, it's fool's gold. They're not as
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good as people think. Yeah, do you really know? Seriously
at this point, do you really have any clue?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Rodney?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think back to the Dodgers, and now I apply
my Dodger philosophy to everything. And I never did that before,
by the way, until last year, where I said during
the beginning of the season, I don't care how many
games they win, just get to the tournament. I remember
saying that, you go, well, they may not have a
home field advantage, and just get to the tournament. That's
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all I said. Sure, their road could be more difficult
if they don't have the best record, but just get there.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They got there. Just get to the tournament.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And when I was younger and doing this, and it
doesn't mean I've lost my love or passion for it.
I'd live and die every game, okay, And certainly I'm
interested in every game to see how they play, to
see what they may be going through, the reality.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Of the situation. Is this, what happened? They got beat?
What happened? They didn't look very good? What happened?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Luke at it didn't have a great game. Okay, they
play eighty two of them, they got beat. Is it concerning?
They're four and four against teams that entered December with
winning records. Well, if we get to that point in
April and they're five hundred or below against winning teams,
then you might have something to talk about, because that's
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tournament time. But aside from that, you know, glad everybody
showed up and had a good time.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So these are just what you're calling.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It is just practice games. These are all just practice games,
you know, leading up to, as you mentioned, getting to
March April, whinter you're fighting for seeding or you know,
position in the playoffs. But right now, it's just these
These are just tune ups. These are just to keep
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your keep your health, keep your energy, keep your endurance,
all of those things. That's that's that's really it's all
about get to the tournament, win enough games, get to
the tournament. Then it really matters that what you're saying,
what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The way it is now and and and and in
most sports, I think, outside of football, I think in
the other sports, it is get to the tournament, and
you want to get to the tournament healthy, You want
to get to the tournament playing well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
The regular season.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it is a tune up, and it is a
period of time to kind of hone into your skills
to get ready for in baseball October, get ready for basketball,
and you know, April. But it is I think it's necessary.
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It's it's still necessary to play well through the regular
season because again, there's too many good athletes and too
many good professionals to just turn it on turn it off.
And if you cruise through the regular season and just
say we're just out here just kind of getting fine tuned,
it's basically practice. Then when the real bullets are flying
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and it's real time and you can get eliminated from playoffs,
you might have a hard time. So you got to
take it seriously. I really do believe that. You got
to take it seriously, and that's in all sports.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You're gonna show up, you gotta play, and of course
you want to win. But they lose last night. Oh no,
what does that mean? It means they're fifteen and five.
That's what it means. They're fifteen and five. They're not
five and fifteen. They're fifteen and five.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
What does that mean.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, let's see, they are behind Oklahoma City by four
and a half games, and they are a game up
on Houston and Denver.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's what it means. Say that again.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So they're fifteen and five and yet still four and
a half games behind Oka. See which is the defending champs?
Who are what twenty and one?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
They mean?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's if they weren't a part of the picture, everybody
would go crazy about where the Lakers are right now,
don't you think. But because the defending champs Oklahoma City
is they picked up where they left off last year
and they are dominant. They are a dominant team right
now at twenty I think, Yeah, only have one loss,
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So yeah, it does matter.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Fred.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It doesn't matter to the point where you you have
to continue to get better and figure out what's going
to happen in the postseason, but right now, you know,
before Christmas, before the New Year, before the All Star
break for basketball, these are games I think you're trying
to figure yourself out, figure out who you are. And
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the Lakers have I think they figured it out more
than most teams. Being fifteen and five, I think they've
got now. You know, we always talk about, especially in
the NBA Big Three, who's the big three? You got
to have a big three to win it all. Austin
Reeves have jumped into the picture as the third piece
of the Big three. I mean, it's Lucas team. It
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transitioned from Lebron. It's Lucas team. He's the guy. But
with Lebron and Austin Reeves and way Austin Reeves, which
I think is the story of the NBA right now.
He has taken it to a different level to become
part of the Big three. He is the Big three guy.
And I don't know if we could said that last
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year or the year before.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, look at it like this, and let's give Lebron this.
He's still working himself back into shape. Fair yes, okay,
he's not even really back yet. He's doing it but
he's still getting in shape. And even a guy that's
just getting in shape and doing what he's doing is
pretty impressive. But as he continues to get in shape,
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I think you could make the argument that right now,
because he hasn't played, Austin Reeves has even jumped past
him as the second option.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But now it's not gonna end up that way.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
But I think right now you're night be able to
make that argument because Lebron hasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Been in.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah one, one hundred percent night in and night out.
You know, Austin Reeves and Luca, that combination has been great.
And I don't know if it's I don't know what
has transpired, or if it's JJ really instilling the a
Austin reed Hey, you're not just a role player anymore.
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You're You're the guy, and he's acting like the guy.
And he's not afraid to take the big shot. He's
not afraid to to go get thirty if he needs
to go get thirty. I mean, everybody knows lucas the guy,
but you also need somebody else that's gonna fill it
up on a regular basis. That's the key is gonna
be throughout the regular season. Which is why I think
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the regular season matters. Is can Austin Reeves maintain this
going forward through the regular season, because when it comes
to the playoff time, you're gonna need that guy. You're
gonna need the three to come and deliver for them
to win a title. And this is a moment for
Austin Reeves to step up and go I am I
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am that guy if they need to, if they need
me to score forty and they're doubling Luca and they're
shutting down Luca, and I need to be the guy,
the go to guy. I can be that guy. And
he's showing that right now. But I think that is
the importance of the regular season. Okay, back to your point.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'll tell you this. He is that guy, not even
a concern. He is that guy. And the Lakers do
have a Big three. Okay, we can acknowledge that Lakers,
by the way, right now are tied for the third
best record in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Tied to the third best record in the NBA, which
speaks to a number of issues, mainly, Luka Doncic is
that good and there it is?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They're tied for the third best record in the NBA
in a month. I don't know how much that means.
In the NBA, home court advantage makes a difference. So
you want to finish more up than down, and I
think they will. I think they will, But you really
want to cut to the chase and get to all
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of it. If we go through the regular season and
the US got to do it in the playoffs, an't
he he's got there is and take it. There it is,
and there it is.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Cut.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Let's just cut the chase. Let's just get to it.
Let's look down the road, and we'll live every game,
and we'll talk about every game, and some will be
better than others, and there will be incredible performances during
many of them, and son, they'll stink.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
All right, good, we got that done.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And we can analyze and we can try to pick
it apart, we can try to figure it out, but
the bottom line is that's what it's going to be.
So let's just get to it. I mean, we have
to go through the process. But if we didn't, can
they beat OKAC, because there it is. I'm gonna give
you two teams. I'm gonna give you two teams. Can
they beat Okac. Can they beat Houston? I think they
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can beat San Antonio even with Wemby, I think they
can beat them.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
For this year.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I believe that to be true as well. I don't
think they'll have a problem with Golden State. Phoenix beat
them last night. Phoenix more up than down at thirteen
and nine. But I don't think they're legit contenders. Houston
scares me and Okac is a monster. So as we
go through the year and we watch the games and
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we talk about them, and even the dog days of February,
there's two questions. Can you beat okay se Can you
beat Houston in the West. If you can beat one
of those two teams, in my opinion, you can win
the West. But no matter how well anybody plays, if
you cannot beat one of those two teams, or perhaps both,
if need be, you're not going and it'll be over.
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That's exactly. How have you the Lakers season and how
the Lakers now put themselves in a position, Rodney to
be pretty good? Okay, So how you know we've we've
already people have already anointed Luca as the guy. How
much pressure is it on him to get past Okay?
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See and get past Houston, you know, if it comes
to that, because they're you know, the way it's going,
it's going to be a competitive West. You know, the
playoffs is gonna happen. But are we gonna look at
Luca as a guy and put him to the same
standard as we put Magic Johnson, Kareem, as we put
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Kobe to take this team to the different level that
those guys did. Or are we going to continue to
say he's a great player, and he's you know, and
everybody wants to annoying him as you know, one of
the best ever. But does he have to complete the
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job before we can put him in that category?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well? Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Are you saying is the pressure on? The pressure is on, Yes,
one caveat. But the guys around him have to play
pretty well too. I mean, Lebron was in a position
where he played great and couldn't win it because the
guys around him didn't play well enough.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So I not Yeah, But we didn't say that about Kobe.
We didn't say with Kobe and Chat we didn't say
that out you know, it was the guys did play
great around him, but that was not said before it
was Larry Bird. It was like Can Larry Bird lead
him to a championship? Can Magic Johnson lead him to
a champion? Can Kobe Bryant lead him to a championship?
That's you know, after Shack left, it was can Kobe
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win another title without Shack? And they went and won two?
You know, are we going to put the same standard
on Luca? Can he win with an aging lebron and
and then Austin Reeves is emerges as the number two guy?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Can he? Can he put the Lakers on his back
and go win it?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's on him, You're right, It is on him now,
and it's more on him, and it's more pressing now
because of the way they played. You know, if they
come out and they're still an adjustment period and things
are slow and they're working to come together kind of thing,
then you go when maybe they're not ready, But no, now,
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given what you've seen, they are more than ready. So yeah,
he's put himself in that position. I would agree. I
think he is one of the great NBA players. But
to be a great Laker, yeah, you gotta win, Rodney. Yeah,
and it's on him. It is on him now. It's
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not on anybody else. He needs help, but it's on him.
I agree one thing on that. I think that's unfair.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
No, I'll go back to the regular season part that
you guys are talking about, because yes, I think if
you would disagree that betting Oklahoma City above anybody else
is the most important. But the road to how you
face Oklahoma City and the postseason does matter. So if
you go back to last year, the Lakers finished with
the three seed, the separation between them and the last
playing team two games. So for anyone that wants to
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argue whether the regular season matters or not, if the
Lakers have lost two more games, they are in the
play in and one loss away from getting eliminated in
the first round. So I'm not saying I'm not I'm
not putting words in your mouth for it saying that
the regular season doesn't matter. You didn't say that, But
there is a train of fout out there. Regular season
A just find a way to get in and you'll
be fine. How you get in does matter, and if
you're a top three seed, four seed over being a
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playing team matter. So in that context, every single game
to a certain degree absolutely matters.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I don't want that to be done. No, No,
it does it does, and that's an awesomort. Look, we
we went crazy about in the last month of the
Dodger season. They don't want to be that wildcard team, right,
they don't want to play in that three game series,
and you know, anything can happen, and it so happened
that they played Cincinnati and they got through it and
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it was easy. But you don't want to put yourself
in that situation. So yeah, to Kevim's point, it does.
It doesn't matter where you finish because you could be,
you know, one game away or two games away. As
he mentioned, the difference between the third seed and playing
was two games and so that that that definitely matters.
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If the Dodgers could do it all over again, they
would say it in a heartbeat, we don't want to
be in that situation where we got to play that
wildcard three game series.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Agree, No, no, no, no, no, don't get me wrong. I
hear you, Kevin, I hear you. It is what it is.
If you get in, you got a shot. Now could
your road be easier? Of course, with the Dodgers have
wanted to avoid that quick series. Yes that god it
was against Cincinnati, but yeah, they would have wanted to
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avoid that one hundred percent. Does somebody want to come
in from the play in Not really, But if that's
the hand your debt, that's the position you put yourself in. Yeah,
it makes it easier in theory the other way, but
you're there, you're there. I think in basketball it means
a little more to be fair because you get the
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home court advantage, and I think that does make a difference.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
You want that.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Hockey would be the same, you'd want the home ice
if you could get it, But baseball get to the
tournament might be a little rougher, but you got to
be there. So what I'm saying about the Lakers is
this great start. They lost, Okay, Well, everybody has a
clunker once in a while.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
They're going to be more.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Of them, and I will suggest there'll be fewer of
them this year than they have been in recent years.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So that's good news.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
They have put themselves in a position now to be
considered a legit threat, not what we've heard in the past.
Bowl this would be a great year. Now that kind
of thing. This is that's kind of like being a
Raider fan. This is our year.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
No, it's not. Okay, So you are you are you.
Are you in the belief that the Lakers are that good?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Or is this is just off to a good, good
start because a lot of teams in the West are
not great and in NBA in general, there are so
many bad teams. Or are you in the of the
opinion that the Lakers are at the upper tier the
upper five to ten percent of the league in terms
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of good teams.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That is exactly where I'm at. They're in the upper tier.
I think they're that good. Okay, I do.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Now again, Rodney, that means it's on Luca And you
pointed that out. You put yourself in that position. Now
you have to deliver, right, You've done this. People should
be more excited about this year's Laker team given what
we've seen already, and we've seen a decent sample size,
given what we've seen already, than they have in the
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last three years. They got a shot this year, a
real shot. Will they be able to do it?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And if they can't, it comes down to this, at
the end of the day, can they beat Houston?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Can they beat Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
See, because I think they'll beat everybody else in the West.
Houston actually scares me as much as okase. They are young,
they are long, they are athletic.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And they are dogs.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They are dogs as if they were going to be
in the mix to begin with. But Kevin Durant did them.
It's just a don't you feel like it's like an
It's an extra element that they they didn't necessarily need,
but they got h And now, like you mentioned, they
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become a scary team.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They can become a.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Scary team because he can, as we've seen them throughout
his career, take over a game, take over a series,
and with that young crowd and what he's done, uh
to to be the older statesman to intermix into that,
it becomes a scary proposition. If they keep it rolling
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and they get to the playoffs and and play with
that kind of confidence as a young team, and you
had that veteran guy that's been there, done that one titles,
that's one of the best that ever done done it. Uh,
they become a scary option. I'm I'm I'm with you.
I'm I'm more concerned about I'd be I'd be more
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concerned about Houston going forward. Now maybe okay see, but
you take okay see out.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Of the mix.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Anybody else anybody else in the NBA, I'd be concerned
about Houston, the.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
College football carousel, spins and spins. I wasn't here yesterday.
Do you want to talk a little more about Lane
Kiffin to Lashu and don't forget. Eric Dickerson joins the
show at.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
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Speaker 2 (23:51):
All right, let's go on a Tuesday, A full show
for us today, Rodney, Pete, fred Rogan, Eric Dickerson hall
of Famer is going to join us at one o'clock.
But before then, Freddy, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Man, Come on, Okay, I did listen to a little
of podcast yesterday and I heard what you and Adam
were saying about Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Basically, what this is it is an indictment of the
way college athletics operates now, especially college football. Lane Kiffen
had a chance to leave and make an awful lot
of money. I don't want to deny anybody that opportunity.
As a matter of fact, you certainly can't deny the
players that opportunity any longer. But the reality is a
contract means absolutely nothing now nothing. Your word means nothing.
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You signed an agreement, they paid you, they compensated you.
You're under contract. That means nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And that's a problem with everything, not just Lane Kiffen,
but the way the system works now. People felt badly.
He felt badly. I should have a chance to coach
my kids in the championship game, at least in the
college football playoff.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Got to be an a with you. It's gonna sound bad.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I don't disagree, but then will missus Well, La, in
a minute, this guy's going to take half our staff
and he's going to take all the players. Who's fault
is that? That's college Football's they allow this kind of
thing to happen. Do I think Lane Kiffin is right
me personally, No. I believe a deal is a deal.
You don't think it's signed, you don't think it's right.
(25:24):
I think you signed a contract. Hold on, hold on, Oh, yeah,
go ahead and anything. You sign a contract four year whatever,
millions of dollars, right, And in the first year you
did great. In the second year you see the expectations.
And in that four year contract, the landscape has changed
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and you become one of the lowest paid players or
coaches or whatever in the business. Right, And so you
want to be compensated on par with your performance based
on what everybody else is getting. That's fair, right, And so.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know if you decide that, Okay, listen, this is
I'm not on par I'm not getting compensated for what
I what I deserve based on everybody else. And I'm
taking this team to new heights and generated all this
money for I need we need to talk. Yeah, and
that's the whole you know, form of renegotiation. We need
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to talk, right. So, but at the same time, you
believe that he should honor that four year contract and
just stay and stick it out for those four years.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, here's what I think you said, a four year agreement.
You have two great years, You exceeded expectations. Okay, you're right, Rodney, Hey,
you got a minute, let's talk. I've done well, things
are great, You're happy, you're making more money, University's got
a lot more notoriety, Attendance is up because of what
I've done. You can quantify what I've done here, you
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can quantify it. So let's get into it. Let's have
a conversation, let's extend this deal, let's make more money,
let's work it out.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You come to me with that and I go, no, sorry,
deal is a deal. It is a deal. Then, okay,
you should know right now then I'm done in two years.
You should write that down right now. I'm going to
go out there and keep winning. I'm gonna go out
there and kill it. I'm going to go out there
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and we're going to be better than we've ever been.
That's what I'm going to do, and I will because
you know who I am. But write it down right now.
I'm done in two years. And if you don't remember that,
I'll tell everybody I'm done in two years. So don't
come to me next year and go, oh, we rethought this.
There's no rethinking it. I have two years to go.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
If Lane Kiffiner was making like six seven million a
year at LSU, right listen, maybe that makes him a
pauper compared to making twelve twelve millions a lot of money.
You can't deny that six million. You're not living in
the poorhouse either. In Oxford, Mississippi. Six seven million, you're okay,
you're doing fine.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, you're doing well. Six seven million in Oxford, Mississippi
is like thirty in La Okay, good.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So you're doing good.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You're fine. No, I want twelve now, or I'm bored,
or I don't want to be here. You have a
deal if you leave. If you leave, there's going to
be a problem. Now I don't know what the buyout was,
but if you leave, we will go to all lengths
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to make you pay for that. Because we trusted you.
We entered into an agreement here. You need to honor
your deal. Maybe you want to have a conversation right now.
Maybe we'll make it a year shorter, Maybe we can
come to some decision.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Because what you just said, so, the problem is not
with the individuals. The problem is with the contracts the
way they're written that there.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Is a buyout, And that's what I'm saying. Should they take.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
The buyout situation out of coaches or any situation when
it comes to sports, I mean, because you know, we
see it in business, and you know, we can debate
the double standards of business in sports all day long
because in business, guys people leave and they do different
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things and all that kind of stuff happens. But in
sports it gets scrutinized. But are you saying that the
problem more so is with the type of contracts that
are being written right now where there is a buyout
clause for these coaches.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, there shouldn't be one.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And here's the other side of it, by the way,
if you look at college football, and let's be really
honest here, this coaching carousel is a complete and total joke.
A guy has two good years somewhere, all of a
sudden he's a coach at Florida because who's ever hot
at the right time? Whoever got hot? Jonathan Smith did
great at Oregon State, Michigan State fired him, just fired him.
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And they had Pat Fitzgerald who was at Northwestern. So
whoever's hot at the right time. And it's kind of
like you look to see, oh my god, Troy, they've
had two great years. Guess what you're now the new
coach at Iowa. What yeah, oh my god, what do
you mean, congratulations, yed, youve got a seven year deals.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Really, and a lot of times here's the thing with
college football too, and it's well less more than it
was in the past, but a lot of times you
get the benefit of the previous coach and the talent
that the previous coach brought in. So that previous coach thinking, Okay,
I've recruited these guys and we may not be good
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for the first two years of that, but three third,
the third year is where we're gonna take off. I
look at Indiana right now, those guys that are in Indiana,
I mean, he's done a great job there, don't get
me wrong. But they've got so much talent of guys
that have grown up in that system. But you've got
a coach that recruited these guys and go, Okay, they're
gonna we're gonna play them all as a freshman.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're gonna struggle.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Sophomore year, they're gonna get better, but by year three
we are gonna be contenders. We're gonna be right there.
But you may not get to year three because you
struggled in the first two years, and that the new
coach has got the benefit of what you recruited.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, look at it like this. A lot of those
players came with him to Indiana. Now, in the old days,
it's two you hold on to who who survives mm hmm.
In today's world, it's like you beg the ones you
like to stay, but the majority of them come with
you anyway, come with you anyway, and there you go.
Now we're ready to go again. I mean, Bob Chesney
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was hired at UCLA. Obviously a good hire I guess
was James Madison. Maybe he can build this program into something.
But that's where we're at now. All he did well
there and he's solid, stable and he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's hired.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let's get him in here and maybe he'll be great,
and that would be great for UCLA football.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I guess the pushback would be who else who would
you rather hire? Because, by the way, Kurt Signetti has
that exact same track he came from. James Madison went
to Indiana and look what they've turned to a basketball
for school, no, but an afterthought in football, which UCLA
is right now. So why can't there new head coach
following Signette's footsteps?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, maybe he can Kevin. Don't get me wrong. What
I'm saying is the way it works. Now, two good
years somewhere, boom you're in.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, you're in Urban Meyer was good for two years
at Utah and then got to Florida in one That's
just that's how it works with there.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
It's like, if I can do this at Utah, imagine
what I can do it Florida with the talent. Then
I got at Florida and a big time conference, you know,
and that was the mentality. Same thing with a lot
of these guys. I think that was the big thing
with Lane Kiffin. It's like, I don't know, Look, it
is the landscape. It is what it is. But I
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think you look at it and go, I overachieved at
ole Miss. I'm really overachieved. And I brought the guys
in and they came and they believed in me and
we had great success. But I can get those that
talent that we brought into ole Miss. That's coming to
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me in my sleep. That's coming to me in my
sleep at LSU. And imagine not having to worry about
trying to deal with the transfer portal and guys leaving
and all those kind of things. I got the talent
in my backyard that ain't leaving, and so recruiting standpoint,
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the work is going to be a lot less at
LSU because I'm going to get that talent year in
and year out, whereas at ole Miss, you'll have that
talent and it may go in cycles. It may go
in cycles for two years here and one year here.
He's built something great, But at LSU it could be
one of those things that happens every single year in
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a dynasty.
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Speaker 5 (35:55):
From the court to the court room with Jacob m Roni.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, Weekly chat with our dear friend Jacob and Ronnie. Jacob,
How is Thanksgiving?
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Happy Tuesday? Thanksgiving was good? I hope it was good
for you guys. Sorry, my voice is a little bit gone.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Why because you've been yelling or because you got what's
going around?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:14):
No, you know the boys, My boys had a basketball
game last night. It was a very highly contested game,
and uh, you know, being a basketball dad, you know
got to cheer your boys on.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No, wait a minute, oh wait, Jacob, because I know
you coached too. Are you are you coaching these games?
Are you just are you? Are you a dad fan?
Speaker 6 (36:35):
No? This is a this is their high school team.
So I'm a fan.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Okay, so you're yelling, You're yelling, and you're going crazy?
Are you, Jacob?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Are you a Are you a yeller? Like Fred? Fred
would go after the referees and he'd yell at the referees.
Are you? Are you that guy? Listen?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
They know I'm there. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Oh that's the Jacob giving your boys. Yeah, they quite obvious.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
They know him there.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay, by the way, you ever threaten him that you'll
assume them if they call something against your kids.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
The good thing about it is if they know who
I am, I don't have to say anything, so it
works out.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, all right, Jacob. Lakers lost last night. Here's what
I think. I think they had a bad game. I
don't think it means anything more than that.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
What do you think it means nothing more than that?
But you know what it does mean is when Marcus
Smart is playing, you can tell that his defense, you know,
his defense makes such a difference and everybody else goes
at a different base. Watching that game last night, those
guys could not miss a shot. I mean, you know
they had this guy Gillespie had never even heard of him.
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That guy was shooting three pointers like Luka and everything
was going in. So I think it was just one
of those games back to back. You know, they had
to play against, you know, the Pelicans the night before,
and it was a Monday night game. I think, now
it's time to go on the road. I don't think
anything of it.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, we were just talking about how much the regular
season matters, Jacob, and you know, I kind of contended
it matters when it comes to seating at the end
of the day. You know, last year the Lakers were
a three seed. It could have been very well a
play in situation, and it was only a matter of
two games. So to that point, and even with the
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we we also talked about the Dodgers, the Dodgers trying
to avoid playing that wild card three game series that
could go anyway. You know, it's really it does matter.
How much do you think the regular season matters in
terms of seeding at the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Doesn't I think every game matters for the Lakers, especially
because I don't think that Lebron has gotten back into
it yet. I don't watching last night, a couple of times,
you know, the ball went off as leg he's trying
to get back. You know, he missed the game already.
So I think, you know, the regular season is going
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to be very important for the Lakers and how far
they go. I don't think you go any game without
thinking it doesn't matter. But I don't look at a
game like that and say, oh, they lost by certain
amounts and we need someone to worry about. But I
think every game.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Matters, all right, Well yeah, but I always say this,
every game matters. But the Lakers have elevated themselves this year,
Jacob into a different stratosphere.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I mean, they're legit. Every year.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
At the beginning of the season, you're hopeful, you're excited,
you're a proud partner of the Lakers. Right, Well, guess
what that wasn't going to be most of the time
this year. I think if you're excited, you got a
legit reason. I think these guys are pretty damn good.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Listen. I think as a Laker fan, we have a
lot to be happy about. I don't think anybody thought
that they were going to come out of the gate
with this kind of a record. Obviously, you know, Luca
is just incredible. Austin Reeves has been amazing, and I
think our centers, Ayton, uh, you know, Aidan's been great.
You know, he's been giving us some good games, and uh,
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you know, there's a lot to be excited about. But
the great thing about this team is that I think,
you know, with the Jake La Rabias and the Marcus Smarts,
I think as they get more and more, you know,
this team gets more and more comfortable with each other.
I think we're going to see what they are. But
the reality becomes is you got to look at how
they're going to play against teams like okay See, because
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it looks like okay See is just in another you know, hemisphere,
and you know, the Lakers play these games. We have
had a nice number of games at home. Now they're
going to go on a th real four game road trip.
I always like the road trips because that's when the
team becomes even closer to each other. So, you know,
Laker Nation Lake shows looking good. You know, I think
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I've got a lot to be excited about.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Hey, hey, Jacob, you know, obviously are our listeners always
love when you give advice talk about you know, especially
around the holidays, taxi and right share, right Share accidents
and being in those type of situations and what your rights.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Are, you know. I just think it's really important to
be able to know whether you get into a taxi,
whether you get into a right share. Now you're basically
putting your life in the hands of a total stranger.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
You know.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Taxis and right shares are a little different. I think
taxis still have to go through certain screenings. For right
share it's nothing, So I just feel like you need
to be very vigilant when you do use one of
these type of forms of transportation to be able to
make sure that you know you're aware of the driver,
how much attention they're paying, because at the end of
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the day, these companies are trying to limit a passenger's
rights every single day, trying to bring the policies for
the insurance coverages down every single day. And who gets
hurt at the end of the day, the passengers, who
gets hurt the consumers, And I think you need to
be vigilant if you are in this kind of an
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accident to make sure you talk to an attorney. I
don't know if you know this or not, but for
the right share companies, they were forced in California to
carry a one million dollar uninsured motorist policy to protect
their drivers and to protect their passengers. A new legislation
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just passed starting January first, if you are a passenger,
the coverage is going to be only sixty thousand dollars.
That means you are losing nine hundred and forty thousand
dollars in coverage that would protect you as a passenger.
So that's why you got to be very vigilant. If
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you're involved in any of these accidents in the month
of December or within the past year or two, make
sure that your case is being handled correctly. Make sure
that whoever is representing you is aware and making sure
that you're being taken care of both legally and based
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on whatever your cin you know your complaints are medically. Again,
I apologize my voice, but I think this is really
important information for people to know because that's not stuff
that you see advertised out there. But when you're in
an accident and now you don't have the same coverage
is you're going to be very, very shocked.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
All right, listen to me. That's very good advice to
start with. That's very good advice. You cannot yell like
that at basketball games.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Anymore. You cannot do it. It is not healthy for you.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We're trying to take care of you as a friend
and a proud part of.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Eight nine.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
We're trying, Jacob, you got it. You can't yell like
that before I control yourself.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Come on the next game. The next game is Wednesday night.
So I'm having a lot of tea, a lot of honey,
hoping to get my voice back for the Wednesday night game.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
All right, we'll get yourself together. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
By guys, take care, all right, what the fun.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Times begin when we come back? Ed joins the show.