December 2, 2025 • 35 mins
Eric Dickerson joins us and gives his thoughts on Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss for LSU, the Rams losing to the Panthers and Aaron Rodgers publicly criticizing his receivers
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's get to some Ford NFL spotlight and
welcome on the Man, the Myth, the Law.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, five time NASCAR champ, Eric, five time NASCAR tamp.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You say, five time NASCAR champ. That's right, I'll tell
you what that one you want to tell Odega? Nobody
will ever forget it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh, he's thank you, Fred. I mean it was a
tough one. I mean it was. It was a little scary,
you know, making those curves, but I did do it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But I was when you want to when you won
the Long Beach Grand Prix going through the city of
Long Beach.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ed Hey, that was another teugh for riding. That was
another tough one riding, I'm telling you, man, you know,
and you know, we'll tell you about. My biggest accomplishment
was when I won the surfing contest.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Now that was a big one. You know. I was
top surfing the world at one time.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
A lot of folks don't think black people want to surf, man, And.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, I've got I just I just did it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, I just did it because I just felt
like it was something I need to do to just
to prove that black people can serf.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Talk terrified the war freed. You ain't supposed to say that.
For you, that's true. But you know I did something
you guys didn't do. I mean, Eric, you said you
drove in the Long Beach Grand Prix. I drove in
it twice, did you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay? I was good at it one time.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, Freddy, uh Freddy?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
ANDRETTI ok okay, okay, speed racer all let me tell
you what happened. I have two stories.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Crashed. You crashed. I know you did well. The second time,
that's when Paul Moyer ran me into the wall under
the underpass.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Under the overpass, yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But the first time, I'm going around and you know,
they have little pit crewis and stuff. You have to
learn how to drive the cars. So I think I'm
one of the only people in the history of the
Long Beach Grand Prix to get a flat tire. I
don't know how it happened, but I got it. So
I drive into the pit and I'm sitting there and
they're fixing it. I'm like in a real pit stop
and the race is continuing.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They fixed the tire, and it took a little longer
than it was an irregular pit stop, but they fix
it and I go back out on the course and
actually I see one car, one car and the cars
ahead of me, and then the car kind of is gone.
So now I'm driving around and you know what, I'm
thinking to myself, Oh my god, this is incredible. I
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am so far ahead. I've won the Long Beach Grand Prix.
Oh no, the Celebrity division. And I'm thinking, this is
the damnedest thing. So I'm coming around the final turn
and all I got is clear space in front of me,
and I'm speeding down and I look around and it
seems odd because as I'm looking in the crowd, there's
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nobody there. I'm wondering, God, did I drive so fast.
I just drove past all these people, didn't even notice them.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And as I'm getting close.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
To the finish line, I see some people out on
the track doing stuff, and I'm wondering to myself, Oh
my god, this is very odd that they would have
people out here on the track. Maybe something happened. Then
I realized what happened. Because of the pit stop, I
finished so far behind. By the time I finally finished,
they were cleaning up the track and getting ready for
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the real race.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So you and you and dead dead last.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You couldn't have been anymore. It was like it was
like I drove from the four oh five dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was that bad. It was that bad.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hey, what did you do? What did you do your
training that I think we went to. I want to
say it was Fontana something. We went way out, got
the tracks out there.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I think that's what I went.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think it was Fontana.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, it was Fantana. Because I won't forget it. I won't forget.
We're going around the track and you know, I had
never done that like this before. I mean this.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was like ten of us out there going around
this track. And I just pulled into the pit and
the guy said, he said, say what's wrong. I say, man,
I got to get my mind.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Right for this.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I said, these cars going by too fast. You know,
I'm not trying to have no accident. I didn't be
on Sports Center tragedy in Fontana. They started laughing. I'm like,
I said, I gotta get my mind right for this.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Man. It's a whole thing about it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You're going you want eighty miles an hour right next
to somebody, and.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You're probably going one hundred and forty. What are you
talking about it? I don't know if those CAUs go
that faster.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They don't go that fast.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
They don't go that Yeah, you know, they back back
side it maybe like ninety maybe.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, but still feels like it feels like you're going faster.
And and then on top of that, it's just a
whole different adrenaline that you're facing and you're dealing with.
And it's a no, it's a it's it's a scary feeling.
You think you're pretty good driver when you're driving on
the freeways in LA, but you get out there, you
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know you're racing. As fun as it is, it's like dangerous.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, it's funny, you said, I stick. I just
saw my helmet and my my racist suit upstairs, I
think a couple of days ago, and the helmet is
still in the bag, you know. You know they fit
you for a helmet and stuff. I'm like, wow, I
never put that helmet on.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was that helmet tighter than your football helmet?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Hell, yeah for sure, because you know, think about it, football,
you ain't going seven eighty.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Miles an hour. You need something tight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Tight, Yeah, But football feels like you've been hit by
a train.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, but then I might hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, going back, I said an hour, I mean
on the loan, let's just say it's going forty.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was like simulations and how they test those cars
and they running into you know, something else, or they're
they're testing them at the track and they you know,
they ran in and get a crash at like sometimes
like you said, forty miles an hour is you think
forty miles an hour is not a big deal, but
in essence that's going to lay fast when it comes
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to a collision.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
What's the saying you can earn a lot from a
dummy comer, You can earn a lot from a dummy Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Okay, let's talk about because we want to get your
take out of it. And I had specific thoughts. I
know Rodney covered it yesterday. Uh the Lane Kiffin situation
to l s U College coach got a job under contract,
but the way things are now, he can certainly leave
his deal if somebody offers him a better one. That
means he walked out of an agreement he already had.
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But apparently you can do that. Then there was a
question of well, I'm leaving should I be allowed to
coach my kids in the playoffs? They said, no, every
day you stay here, there's another day you could take
more people with you, which is ridiculous because they can
take them anyway after it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So what do you think about that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, I mean I think that if you take another job,
you should just go and get out of there. I
think they're they're right, you know, go go ahead and leave.
In no sense in coaching these kids. You know you're leaving,
you know, And I mean I get it. I mean,
what was it?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Is it? O? Miss? That's what it was?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It? Old miss? Yeah, miss? And that's a great football school.
But I mean, don't get me wrong. If I said
to you, I think last week, Fred, if you've ever
been to l s U to what was it called
the is it called the pig.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Death Valley? Death Vale? Man?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you've ever been to a game in Death Valley,
I went to the Alabama LSU game about seven years ago.
I've never seen nothing like it. I'm telling you. I mean,
I get it. And you did see the was it
the governor on TV talking about when they fired the coach?
You know, this is some we're tired of this, this
is a scam. You know the other coach of A
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and M, they got the same agent. What's up with this? So,
I mean, they don't seem to be seem to have
a problem paying a lot of money. But no, I
think he should go ahead and leave.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't. I don't think he should be a coach
those kids. That's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's hard, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If you're the athletic director, you're the president of ole mess.
You don't want you really don't want a guy that
has left your program and to all accounts, disrespected the
worth of your program coaching these kids in one more
game and because you know he's going to poach him too,
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he's gonna take he's gonna take the best kids and say, hey,
come on to LSU, you got a spot for you.
And he's gonna take as many as he can. And
he already you know, already took the assistant coaches. So
you know why, why if you're the institution, are you
going to have a guy like that, knowing he's gone
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coach your your kids and a chance to win the
win in the playoffs and win the national title. No,
he gotta go he can't coach that. There's no way
in the world that any administration would allow guy to
continue to coach.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
What is? What is? What is? O? Miss ten and one?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean eleven and one, eleven and one, eleven and
one just missed the SEC championship, but eleven and one. Yeah,
I had a phenomenal, phenomenal season and they're a good team.
You know, this year, I think competitive wise, I know
everybody talks about awhile state, but competitive wise and matchups,
how it shakes out, it's as wide open as I've
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seen it. In a minute for it, you don't know
how it's going to play out. I just think this
another thing, another thing, Eric, the guy's got a deal.
He's got a deal. I cannot believe it. You can,
you can. That's the way this works. I can't believe
they let guys walk their deals.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I just can't believe it. So let me ask you a quese.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, so, so, do does does LSU pick up any
of that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
They bought him out? Do they buy him out? Is
that how it worked? They bought him out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So yeah, I'm sure there was a negotiated fee there.
Oh l s U has to buy him out.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, they have to buy him out out. Yeah, yeah,
buy him out. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, hey, but they've been doing that and it
in college for a long time. I mean, coaches leave.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's why I never liked the coach could leave, but
the players couldn't leave. I'm like, how fair is that? Yeah,
that's when I thought it was unfair. The coach up
and leave and you know, he don't have to sit
out a whole year. That's why I'm like, hey, let
these players leave too, if they want to leave there.
They don't like a situation. That's why it was so bad.
You know, you go to you go to college, the
coaches could, in a sense talk to you any kind
of way they wanted because you were stuck. You know,
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you stuck there. You know, you had no out and
if you did want to leave, you had to sit
out a year. And that's almost like it's a punishment.
And think about it. Yeah, a seventeen eighteen, a seventeen
or eighteen year old kid, you got to make the
right decision the very first time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Come on, I mean grown ups don't.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Make the right to see the first time, and you
a kid trying to make the right This is the
right school for me, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just don't like now that they can jump from
school to school. I still think they stay that two
years at least you want to leave. Yeah, yeah, if
you wanted to leave and you took the money, give
the money back, or if you played half the season,
give half the money back.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
One of those. You know, I got to be some.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Sort of got to be some sort of regulation. And
I have more problem Like the ni L is way overdue.
It should have happened years ago. Guys, guys being able
to capitalize on their name, image and likeness is way overdue.
So that that I have no no problem with that.
The transfer portal part of it as has been really
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the problem I think with with college college football and
college sports is that you know a guy because Eric
you know this, there's no there's no competition anymore. When
you when you came, you know, out of Texas and
you went to SMU and you look up and SMU
was was a program back then, and and had you
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know it was in the mix. You know, you got
you got guys that were all American high school players
from all over the country. That, and and within the
Texas area of being there, and you had to compete
to start to get on the field, you had to compete,
you know. And now now if you if you don't
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get the starting job or they don't award you the
starting job in August, right before the season or in
spring training or spring practice and say okay, we're gonna
go with QB one as opposed to QB two. That
QB two says, Okay, I'm not starting, so I gotta go.
I'm out. I'm a transfer and I'm gone to some
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other school. And there's no like wait and compete and
try to fight for your position anymore. And that is
that has caused a major problem I think in college football.
I don't have problem with nil at all, but the
fact that guys can say I'm not I'm not happy
because I didn't start or I didn't win the starting job,
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it just bothers me.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think it's a it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It affects the whole psyche of play years because one
of the things that really that I think that grows
you as an individual, grows you as a human being,
grows you as a competitor, is being is being in
an environment where you got to compete. You got to
compete for that starting job. You got to fight the
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two three guys ahead of you or that's competing with you.
And when you win that starting job opening day, that
means a lot. But now you don't win it, I'll
just go somewhere else and play.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta say right to you, right because
I won't forget see when I when I came out
of high school.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I will hold on, hold on right there, hold on,
take a break. Then we need to hear the story. Okay,
all right, we're gonna hear that story when we come
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Speaker 1 (14:03):
All right, let's keep it going here on a beautiful Tuesday.
Rody Pete, Fred Rugan, Hall of Famer Eric Dickinson on
a Ford NFL Spotlight Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Let's go baby.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All right, Well, the spotlight on the Rams last week,
and you're thinking to yourself, I don't know, maybe Carolina
will be a trap game, maybe it won't. In any event, Boy,
the way the Rams are playing, all they gotta do
is just keep winning. There home field advantage, to show up.
Just show up and do what you do Rams. That's
all I do. And didn't quite go that way even
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before the Matthew Stafford fumble at the end, Eric, what'd
you think?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, First of all, I got so sick of them
talking about Matthew Stafford hadn't turned the ball over in
so many weeks and that interception. I'm like, anytime you
say that right that you know how it goes. I said, oh,
I said, when it happens, it's gonna be bad. I said,
when it happened, it's gonna be bad. And it was bad.
I mean, defense did not play great. I mean Carolina
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moved the ball at will. I mean think about they
touch two touchdowns on fourth and fourth down, fourth and
two and two and not just to get two year
they got two touchdowns out of that, and you know,
turn the ball over. Matthew threw one pick and we
were in the red zone every time. That was the killing.
But you know, I always say this, look, you're gonna
have bad football games. It just don't don't want that.
Everybody plays bad, you know, you don't. He didn't go
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out there, I'm gonna throw interception' that's just part of
the deal, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
If he turned the ball over. Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And you just have to, like McVay say, you have
to look at how you played and come back and
do better. But they didn't play great, and I honestly
and I thought they would lose that game.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell how bad
my wik was I had.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I had a bad I lost every team I
was pulling fourth all I was four of them. My
high school lost in the playoffs and they were picked
to win. My college lost to to what's that school?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Shot caw. They lost the cow.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They were being the a SEC championship game, right, I
don't even like I hate Texas.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I was pulling for A and M. They lost.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I said, okay, I said, now I know the Rams
can't they just can't come and lose too. They lost too,
So all for everything, Thank god, I don't bet, but
all all my teams lost. But you know, like I said,
that's football. Yeah, it they didn't play great, but a
lot of it is just the defense, they didn't show up.
I mean, they couldn't stop them.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I was surprised how many big plays that Carolina had
against the Rams, because they don't you know, they're usually
they have been all season long, very very sound in
terms of their defense. But there were so many big
plays that Carolina made for touchdowns that just was uncharacteristic
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of the Rams and the way they've been all season long.
And you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes you go through
a season ed and and and a team that you know,
and and Carolina's kind of on that middle of the
road because they've lost some tough games and they're not
they're not bad. They're not a great team. Obviously, they're
they're still in the mix in the NFC South with
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with with Tampa Bay uh and they've been up and down.
But they've got players, and they've got young players that
are hungry. And you if you don't come ready to play,
and we say this all the time, you know this,
you don't come ready to play every single week in
the NFL, you can get beat, and you can get
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beat badly because they're always going to be good players.
On the other side, there's only a hand. It's not
like college, where you know, there's an eight million colleges
out there and they got to fill roster spots, and
they got to you know, you know, the linebackers or
the safeties or you know, wouldn't start on ninety percent
of the team, but they're starting on your team and
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you got to face them. It's not that way in
the NFL. It's the best of the best. And I
don't care if your record is two and eleven or
eleven and two. They got players and in in the NFL,
and if you don't come to play, you're gonna be
in for a rude awakening. And I think the Rams
got caught in that situation where there are some talented
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players in Carolina and Bryce Young had the game of
his life and the players weren't making plays for him.
And uh, that's just the nature of the beats. In
the NFL. There's there's no weekends off. You can't say
I'm playing you know, I'm you know back in your day,
s Mu, you know, we we playing Texas Tech, who
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may not have been great at that time. Okay, so
you're playing You're playing the Mexican rice. We're playing rice, right,
So okay, So Rice. We're playing Rice. You know, all
the starter is gonna be out of the game at
the end of the second quarter, you know what I mean,
we're gonna we're gonna run up forty on them by
the by halftime, we'll be out of this game. You
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can't say that in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You're right about that, right, But like you said, I
mean the defense, they just they did not they did
not show up. I mean, I'm not gonna say didn't
show up. They just didn't. They didn't play great. But
that's football. And you know people say all the time,
you know, people say, man, you know, why come they
can't throw the ball, can't run the ball? I say,
do you realize there was a pros on the other
side of that football? And I think they forget that.
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Those are professionals too. Those guys' jobs is to stop you.
I mean, that's what they're getting paid for. And they're
some teams, like you said, a team may be you know,
two and nine, a one and seven, but a lot
of those guys they have pride and then they want
to beat you. I mean, that's that's what it comes
down to it. But that game, man, like I said,
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I felt like that game was a trap game. I
ain't gonna say it's a trap game. I just feel like,
you know, they just made too many mistakes. You hear
me say this all the time, Rightney, If the Rams
don't turn the football over, you won't beat them.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Every game they turned the football game or football over,
I think two to three times, and every game lost.
They lost to Philly, they turned it over twice and
they got two field goals blocked. It's over San Francisco,
I think twice lost that game. It's over three times
in this game. Lost this game. If you don't turn
the ball over, you If they don't turn the ball over,
you don't beat them. If they do turn over, they've
got to get some turnovers from you. Two and Bryce
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Young had a good game. He really did. I mean,
like I said, it was twice fourth and two, fourth
and two, and he threw touchdowns. I mean he only
had two hundred and six yards for passing. You only
two hundred six shards passing. But they were able to
run the ball at will. It looked like it was
always second and three, second and two, and that's a
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good situation for a quarterback. I got a lot of options.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
See, it was critical for him to have a good game,
and it's critical for him to have numerous good games
because I think he's kind of a bubble guy. Now
they're trying to figure out if he's the guy or not.
And you could argue, may maybe he didn't have the
tools around him, he didn't have the protection. Okay, you
can make that argument, but that doesn't matter in their mind.
I think right now they're making a decision on if
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he's going to be the future or not. So it
was good since he's a local kid, it was good.
He played well in that game. Oh no, no, look Alabama,
he went there, and you know, the knock on on
a lot of these you know, these quarterbacks that come
from schools like Alabama when Alabama was dominant and and
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and had all of the athletes, or you know, even
Ohio State gets that neck, you know that knock right
now that they've got so many great athletes that the
quarterback is just a you know, they they could really
slot anybody in there at quarterback and they're going to
be successful. And at Alabama doing the run where Bryce
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Young was a similar thing. As you see, you know,
the different quarterbacks come out of Alabama and all the
national titles they they've won, I don't think there's one
really that has emerged as being a superstar in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So it is talent around you that that makes the difference,
and but sometimes they get overlooked. But I think Bryce
Young this was a this is a critical season for
him and and to to the to the point when
you're the number one pick in the draft, you've got
to show that you're the franchise guy, that you can
make it happen. And you know, he's had his ups
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and downs, but I think this has been a very
very good season, you know, for him to show the
folks in Carolina that I am that guy and if
you give me the right talent and the right tools
around me, I can be that guy. And that that
is probably. That is not probably. It is the biggest
win of his career. Beating the Rams, a team that
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everybody has already peddled in as the the NFC favorite,
and going to the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford being
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
UH.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To perform the way he performed in that game was big, big,
big for Bryce Young. See, the only thing I think
is this that, And I'm the guy that always says, well,
you know, just get into the tournament. I think it's
different in football. I think you want home field advantage.
That lost to the Rams because now they're tied. The
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Bears are nine in three. I can't believe they're hanging on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's mind with the Bears. You can't believe they're hanging on. Yeah,
it's mind the Bears. I think I'm still they're nine
and three. But you look at the Bears, I think
there's still a year away. They're not quite They're winning,
which is great, and I'm happy for Caleb because all
of the criticism that he's received over the last couple
of years, he finally got the coach that is quarterback
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friendly and an offensive minded coach, and him and Ben
Johnson have seemed to have gotten on the right page. So
I'm extremely happy for Caleb Williams in what Chicago is doing.
But I still don't believe when you look at the
teams around the league and especially in the NFC, they're good.
I don't know if they're the dog in a team
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that people with the record may have may have shown
or is showing right now, they're they're winning, but I
just think they're a year away from being really really
a good, good, good team. Okay, but still they're nine
and three somehow, some way. Let's say they won. Let's
say they finished with the best record. I mean Green
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Bays e three won Seattle's nine and three. I'm saying
I think home field advantage meets an awful lot in
the playoffs. And I understand the Rams could have beat
the Eagles last year. Still I'd rather play so far
than in that weather.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
A right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So point being, if they won that game, you know,
trap game, whatever, off the day, they still are in
the driver's seat for home field. I think that means
everything for them. Now you know they're gonna make the
playoffs unless they completely implode.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think home field.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is it means that much for the Rams. Home field, Yeah,
I do. I don't want to see him play in
the cold back East. If they have home field, I
think they got a much better shot to win it all.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I agree. I agree with that Prayd. I mean, it's
always better to play at home, I mean in your stadium,
and unless unless you're playing an ideal weather, I think
about it's not gonna be ideal weather in Chicago. It's
not gonna be ideal weather in Philadelphia. I know what
black back there, it's the ideal weather. And it's stone
right in in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In LA for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But you know, going back to a lot of these quarterbacks,
you know, you know they bring these young quarterbacks in
riding and they wanted to start right away. I mean,
they want to they throw them in, they throw them
in the fire. I mean, Bryce Young was throwing a
bad football team from the beginning. I mean, and it's unfair.
And they want you and they but they want you
to be the guy. And you know Ridney well as
I do, it doesn't work like that. I told you
last week with Stutton Bennett when he came out of Georgia,
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what he went two national championships and he came to
the Rams, and I told you that, I asked, I
can I can't think of that big offensive line. We
were talking about it, and I asked him, I said,
what's going on? What happened with him? And to finally
every Hen said, you know what the word is is
that he wasn't you to seeing the defenses move so much?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And you know how that is the defense. When the
defense and none, they don't sit still.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They're they're they're moving from the time, but when they
get in the formation, they're moving from the time that
from before the snap. After the snap, they're still moving.
And some guys they can't pick that up. Justin Fields,
I always feel Justin Fields could have been a good quarterback,
but they were. He was running for his life in Chicago,
running for his life, and so was Caleb at last year.
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He was running for his life, running for his life.
Now he seems to have an offensive line. And you know,
if you don't have no offensive line, you've done. I mean,
you build a football team one or two ways. You
make the choice. You build it with a defensive line.
But you build with an offensive line. You don't build
it with receivers. You don't building with quarterbacks. You build
your team with the offensive line and the defensive line first.
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And I just believe that, Yeah, I would, I wouldvect.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
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Speaker 3 (27:43):
Let's go all right, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Aaron Rodgers has not had a banner year for the Steelers,
and basically I think he jumped a shark, which probably
means jump yeah, old happy days.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Jump this shark?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You it's past. You're done. You've jumped the shark. What
you were in the past?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Anyway, you know, after another tough game, what he does
is he throws his wide receivers under the bus, which
is not unusual for him. You know, hey, don't look
at me, Do not look at me. I'll tell you
it's those guys. They're running the wrong routes. Runney, you
play quarterback, You ever do that? No? No, And it
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was bad regardless if you you know, however you feel,
and you know what's going on during the week, you
don't expose your teammates to you know, what is notoriously
or what is known to be behind the scenes, you know, conversations.
(28:47):
You know, because he mentioned, you know we show up
the film sessions. If you show up to film sessions,
then you would understand what we're trying to do. So
he's basically calling them all out for not showing up
for meetings and not studying and not understanding what we're
trying to do, and not really taking one hundred percent
(29:10):
accountability for yourself, even if you're not wrong, even if
they're you know, some guys that look, we had a
film session that was supposed to start at eight, and
you guys don't show up. And we're do an independent
thing where quarterback and receivers are getting together to look
at some tape and try to get on the same page,
and guys don't show up for that because all those
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things are voluntary. Basically, you know, with the air quotes
around it, you don't call them out publicly. You don't
do that as a quarterback and a supposed leader of
the team. You pull them aside, you know, behind the scenes,
and you go, hey, man, we got to get on
the same page. Hey hey, listen, fellas if we're going
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to be great, we got to you know, during the meetings.
Everybody got to pay attention. Everybody's got to be on
the same page attention in the meetings. If we have
extra meetings or we're getting some extra work in after practice,
that's us, that's us. The media doesn't need to know
about that. And he exposed it to the media, which
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is to me, it's just something that you don't do. Alright,
in trouble, Eric, I don't think we hear him.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right now, we lose Eric, Okay, we do all right,
got I said, well, right now, I gotta say I've done.
I've done just what he did it to a point,
to a point. I mean, when I was in Danapolis, man,
I gotta say that was the worst experience of football
my last probably year in there ever. I mean, because
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you know, I've never seen a football team, and you
know how football teams are. Football teams are usually close sect.
When I was we had a close football team. That
football team was so broken. And I talked to a guy,
one of my buddies named Eugene Daniels. He played that
for He played thirteen years in defensive back. He said,
Eric Man, he said, that was the most jealous team ever.
I've never seen an because he went to LSU. He said,
(31:11):
I were closer to LSU. I said, yeah, matter of fact,
I called him the team. Yeah, the coach team they were.
They were jealous. If your name was in the paper,
they wouldy would they would talk about it. I mean,
I got it, y'all say the man Ray Donaldson didn't
like him, and and Kevin called, oh my gosh. I
mean it was it was some guys on that team.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Man. It was just they would you know, they didn't care.
And that's what that's what. That's the frustrating part when
you frustrated.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
They don't care, you know, and they make comments. I
mean I think they made a comment said, well, you know,
we'll just we'll just let him come in and hit Eric.
I said, okay, I'll tell you what, they'll come and
hit me.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I throw that ball.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Between your legs and see how how that work out
for you, you know, you know, and then so you know,
you don't call your teammates out if they're real teammates
these guys were like when they say miserable and like,
I won't forget having called was so damn scary. He
was six foot seven but a big chicken, I mean,
just a chicken. And we played the Giants on I
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think it was a Thursday night game. It's just in
Thursday night games. And he says, I'm over there arguing
one of the defensive line. Come on, Eric, man, you're
gonna piss him off. Man like they already pensed off.
Piss him off. I mean, I mean, you know, even
when you frustrate, I mean I was frustrated public like,
to the media.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This is what I said, I said, this is what
This was my comment. I said what I did, I
put it. I feel like I'm in I feel like
I'm in Vietnam with a B B gun right now.
That's how I felt. That's how I felt.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But you didn't call out one guy. No, I didn't
call out one guy right that to the point. No, No,
I didn't call it one guy. But no, I didn't
say him by name. I just said, I feel like
I'm in Vietnam of the B B gun. I mean,
because I mean when I say I won't forget Jeff George,
we were, we were we break the whole.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
It was a run play. Jeff said, Man, the hell
with this, I'm just gonna throw it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I said, cool, because they were in the backfield so
fast almost if we could turn around and hand the
ball off, that's how bad it was.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm like, this is this is right, But.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You never threw your offensive line under the bus.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Sit.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
They can't block or they're not getting me any room
to run. I can't back to the line of scrimmage
because I didn't to the front. Can't block nobody.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Well I felt like that. Yeah, no, I know you did.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, you will tell you why Roders. The frustrating
part is because they blame you. They blame they blamed me,
Like I'm like, why can I run? It's no place
to go. It'd be like a quarterback. I have no
like like you know Smith, you know with the Raiders,
he has no time to throw. He's been sacked fifteen
(33:46):
times in two weeks. You think that's fun?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You know that ain't no. You don't want a quarterback.
You ain't no fun? I mean no, but er, what
was the what would the lineman say to you? You
know when you Speke to that. They didn't say nothing
to me because we freid.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
We were not a close football team my last like
my last year and a half there, we were not
a close team.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We really weren't. I mean, what was that like?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Because I know you, you and the Rams. I remember
that time. Oh man, I loved it, half of them,
thom was. I was in college and I knew the
coaching staff down there. It was with John Robinson and
those guys, and Sampizi and all those guys who were
down there. But you guys were close close.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We were a close knit football team. If one guy
would fight, we'd all fight. I mean, that's how it worked.
I mean when nobody took the blame for nothing. You know,
we lost as a football team, we won as a
football team. That's why I said I had never seen
because in high school we were close team, and college
we were close team. But the Rams we were close team.
When I got there, it was, man.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It was just so much endie and jealousy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I'm like, oh my god, I'm you know, honestly, when
I say your name would be in the paper, Rodney,
and they'd be grumbling about his name of the paper.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
For you kidding me.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You're a team that never won anything either. That was
the thing that was it, and and and and that
was that was one of the problems. That's why they
couldn't win. That's why we couldn't win. We were too
we were too you were too divided. I mean it's
like it's like you know, I was in the Bible,
A divided house cannot stand, and we would when I
say divided. Still to this day, I think about how
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divided that football team was. It was just it was
horrible over there, horrible.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, five time NASCAR champ, Eric, five time NASCAR tamp.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You say, five time NASCAR champ. That's right, I'll tell
you what that one you want to tell Odega? Nobody
will ever forget it.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh, he's thank you, Fred. I mean it was a
tough one. I mean it was. It was a little scary,
you know, making those curves, but I did do it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But I was when you want to when you won
the Long Beach Grand Prix going through the city of
Long Beach.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ed Hey, that was another teugh for riding. That was
another tough one riding, I'm telling you, man, you know,
and you know, we'll tell you about. My biggest accomplishment
was when I won the surfing contest.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Now that was a big one. You know. I was
top surfing the world at one time.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
A lot of folks don't think black people want to surf, man, And.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, I've got I just I just did it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, I just did it because I just felt
like it was something I need to do to just
to prove that black people can serf.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Talk terrified the war freed. You ain't supposed to say that.
For you, that's true. But you know I did something
you guys didn't do. I mean, Eric, you said you
drove in the Long Beach Grand Prix. I drove in
it twice, did you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay? I was good at it one time.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, Freddy, uh Freddy?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
ANDRETTI ok okay, okay, speed racer all let me tell
you what happened. I have two stories.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Crashed. You crashed. I know you did well. The second time,
that's when Paul Moyer ran me into the wall under
the underpass.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Under the overpass, yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But the first time, I'm going around and you know,
they have little pit crewis and stuff. You have to
learn how to drive the cars. So I think I'm
one of the only people in the history of the
Long Beach Grand Prix to get a flat tire. I
don't know how it happened, but I got it. So
I drive into the pit and I'm sitting there and
they're fixing it. I'm like in a real pit stop
and the race is continuing.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They fixed the tire, and it took a little longer
than it was an irregular pit stop, but they fix
it and I go back out on the course and
actually I see one car, one car and the cars
ahead of me, and then the car kind of is gone.
So now I'm driving around and you know what, I'm
thinking to myself, Oh my god, this is incredible. I
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am so far ahead. I've won the Long Beach Grand Prix.
Oh no, the Celebrity division. And I'm thinking, this is
the damnedest thing. So I'm coming around the final turn
and all I got is clear space in front of me,
and I'm speeding down and I look around and it
seems odd because as I'm looking in the crowd, there's
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nobody there. I'm wondering, God, did I drive so fast.
I just drove past all these people, didn't even notice them.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And as I'm getting close.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
To the finish line, I see some people out on
the track doing stuff, and I'm wondering to myself, Oh
my god, this is very odd that they would have
people out here on the track. Maybe something happened. Then
I realized what happened. Because of the pit stop, I
finished so far behind. By the time I finally finished,
they were cleaning up the track and getting ready for
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the real race.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So you and you and dead dead last.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You couldn't have been anymore. It was like it was
like I drove from the four oh five dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was that bad. It was that bad.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hey, what did you do? What did you do your
training that I think we went to. I want to
say it was Fontana something. We went way out, got
the tracks out there.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I think that's what I went.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think it was Fontana.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, it was Fantana. Because I won't forget it. I won't forget.
We're going around the track and you know, I had
never done that like this before. I mean this.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was like ten of us out there going around
this track. And I just pulled into the pit and
the guy said, he said, say what's wrong. I say, man,
I got to get my mind.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Right for this.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I said, these cars going by too fast. You know,
I'm not trying to have no accident. I didn't be
on Sports Center tragedy in Fontana. They started laughing. I'm like,
I said, I gotta get my mind right for this.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Man. It's a whole thing about it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You're going you want eighty miles an hour right next
to somebody, and.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You're probably going one hundred and forty. What are you
talking about it? I don't know if those CAUs go
that faster.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They don't go that fast.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
They don't go that Yeah, you know, they back back
side it maybe like ninety maybe.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, but still feels like it feels like you're going faster.
And and then on top of that, it's just a
whole different adrenaline that you're facing and you're dealing with.
And it's a no, it's a it's it's a scary feeling.
You think you're pretty good driver when you're driving on
the freeways in LA, but you get out there, you
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know you're racing. As fun as it is, it's like dangerous.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, it's funny, you said, I stick. I just
saw my helmet and my my racist suit upstairs, I
think a couple of days ago, and the helmet is
still in the bag, you know. You know they fit
you for a helmet and stuff. I'm like, wow, I
never put that helmet on.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was that helmet tighter than your football helmet?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Hell, yeah for sure, because you know, think about it, football,
you ain't going seven eighty.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Miles an hour. You need something tight.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Tight, Yeah, But football feels like you've been hit by
a train.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, but then I might hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, going back, I said an hour, I mean
on the loan, let's just say it's going forty.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was like simulations and how they test those cars
and they running into you know, something else, or they're
they're testing them at the track and they you know,
they ran in and get a crash at like sometimes
like you said, forty miles an hour is you think
forty miles an hour is not a big deal, but
in essence that's going to lay fast when it comes
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to a collision.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
What's the saying you can earn a lot from a
dummy comer, You can earn a lot from a dummy Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Okay, let's talk about because we want to get your
take out of it. And I had specific thoughts. I
know Rodney covered it yesterday. Uh the Lane Kiffin situation
to l s U College coach got a job under contract,
but the way things are now, he can certainly leave
his deal if somebody offers him a better one. That
means he walked out of an agreement he already had.
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But apparently you can do that. Then there was a
question of well, I'm leaving should I be allowed to
coach my kids in the playoffs? They said, no, every
day you stay here, there's another day you could take
more people with you, which is ridiculous because they can
take them anyway after it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So what do you think about that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, I mean I think that if you take another job,
you should just go and get out of there. I
think they're they're right, you know, go go ahead and leave.
In no sense in coaching these kids. You know you're leaving,
you know, And I mean I get it. I mean,
what was it?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Is it? O? Miss? That's what it was?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It? Old miss? Yeah, miss? And that's a great football school.
But I mean, don't get me wrong. If I said
to you, I think last week, Fred, if you've ever
been to l s U to what was it called
the is it called the pig.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Death Valley? Death Vale? Man?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you've ever been to a game in Death Valley,
I went to the Alabama LSU game about seven years ago.
I've never seen nothing like it. I'm telling you. I mean,
I get it. And you did see the was it
the governor on TV talking about when they fired the coach?
You know, this is some we're tired of this, this
is a scam. You know the other coach of A
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and M, they got the same agent. What's up with this? So,
I mean, they don't seem to be seem to have
a problem paying a lot of money. But no, I
think he should go ahead and leave.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't. I don't think he should be a coach
those kids. That's it's hard.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's hard, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
If you're the athletic director, you're the president of ole mess.
You don't want you really don't want a guy that
has left your program and to all accounts, disrespected the
worth of your program coaching these kids in one more
game and because you know he's going to poach him too,
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he's gonna take he's gonna take the best kids and say, hey,
come on to LSU, you got a spot for you.
And he's gonna take as many as he can. And
he already you know, already took the assistant coaches. So
you know why, why if you're the institution, are you
going to have a guy like that, knowing he's gone
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coach your your kids and a chance to win the
win in the playoffs and win the national title. No,
he gotta go he can't coach that. There's no way
in the world that any administration would allow guy to
continue to coach.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
What is? What is? What is? O? Miss ten and one?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean eleven and one, eleven and one, eleven and
one just missed the SEC championship, but eleven and one. Yeah,
I had a phenomenal, phenomenal season and they're a good team.
You know, this year, I think competitive wise, I know
everybody talks about awhile state, but competitive wise and matchups,
how it shakes out, it's as wide open as I've
(09:13):
seen it. In a minute for it, you don't know
how it's going to play out. I just think this
another thing, another thing, Eric, the guy's got a deal.
He's got a deal. I cannot believe it. You can,
you can. That's the way this works. I can't believe
they let guys walk their deals.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I just can't believe it. So let me ask you a quese.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, so, so, do does does LSU pick up any
of that?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
They bought him out? Do they buy him out? Is
that how it worked? They bought him out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So yeah, I'm sure there was a negotiated fee there.
Oh l s U has to buy him out.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, they have to buy him out out. Yeah, yeah,
buy him out. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, hey, but they've been doing that and it
in college for a long time. I mean, coaches leave.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's why I never liked the coach could leave, but
the players couldn't leave. I'm like, how fair is that? Yeah,
that's when I thought it was unfair. The coach up
and leave and you know, he don't have to sit
out a whole year. That's why I'm like, hey, let
these players leave too, if they want to leave there.
They don't like a situation. That's why it was so bad.
You know, you go to you go to college, the
coaches could, in a sense talk to you any kind
of way they wanted because you were stuck. You know,
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you stuck there. You know, you had no out and
if you did want to leave, you had to sit
out a year. And that's almost like it's a punishment.
And think about it. Yeah, a seventeen eighteen, a seventeen
or eighteen year old kid, you got to make the
right decision the very first time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Come on, I mean grown ups don't.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Make the right to see the first time, and you
a kid trying to make the right This is the
right school for me, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just don't like now that they can jump from
school to school. I still think they stay that two
years at least you want to leave. Yeah, yeah, if
you wanted to leave and you took the money, give
the money back, or if you played half the season,
give half the money back.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
One of those. You know, I got to be some.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Sort of got to be some sort of regulation. And
I have more problem Like the ni L is way overdue.
It should have happened years ago. Guys, guys being able
to capitalize on their name, image and likeness is way overdue.
So that that I have no no problem with that.
The transfer portal part of it as has been really
(11:25):
the problem I think with with college college football and
college sports is that you know a guy because Eric
you know this, there's no there's no competition anymore. When
you when you came, you know, out of Texas and
you went to SMU and you look up and SMU
was was a program back then, and and had you
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know it was in the mix. You know, you got
you got guys that were all American high school players
from all over the country. That, and and within the
Texas area of being there, and you had to compete
to start to get on the field, you had to compete,
you know. And now now if you if you don't
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get the starting job or they don't award you the
starting job in August, right before the season or in
spring training or spring practice and say okay, we're gonna
go with QB one as opposed to QB two. That
QB two says, Okay, I'm not starting, so I gotta go.
I'm out. I'm a transfer and I'm gone to some
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other school. And there's no like wait and compete and
try to fight for your position anymore. And that is
that has caused a major problem I think in college football.
I don't have problem with nil at all, but the
fact that guys can say I'm not I'm not happy
because I didn't start or I didn't win the starting job,
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it just bothers me.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think it's a it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It affects the whole psyche of play years because one
of the things that really that I think that grows
you as an individual, grows you as a human being,
grows you as a competitor, is being is being in
an environment where you got to compete. You got to
compete for that starting job. You got to fight the
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two three guys ahead of you or that's competing with you.
And when you win that starting job opening day, that
means a lot. But now you don't win it, I'll
just go somewhere else and play.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta say right to you, right because
I won't forget see when I when I came out
of high school.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
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Speaker 1 (14:03):
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Rody Pete, Fred Rugan, Hall of Famer Eric Dickinson on
a Ford NFL Spotlight Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Let's go baby.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
All right, Well, the spotlight on the Rams last week,
and you're thinking to yourself, I don't know, maybe Carolina
will be a trap game, maybe it won't. In any event, Boy,
the way the Rams are playing, all they gotta do
is just keep winning. There home field advantage, to show up.
Just show up and do what you do Rams. That's
all I do. And didn't quite go that way even
(14:37):
before the Matthew Stafford fumble at the end, Eric, what'd
you think?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, First of all, I got so sick of them
talking about Matthew Stafford hadn't turned the ball over in
so many weeks and that interception. I'm like, anytime you
say that right that you know how it goes. I said, oh,
I said, when it happens, it's gonna be bad. I said,
when it happened, it's gonna be bad. And it was bad.
I mean, defense did not play great. I mean Carolina
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moved the ball at will. I mean think about they
touch two touchdowns on fourth and fourth down, fourth and
two and two and not just to get two year
they got two touchdowns out of that, and you know,
turn the ball over. Matthew threw one pick and we
were in the red zone every time. That was the killing.
But you know, I always say this, look, you're gonna
have bad football games. It just don't don't want that.
Everybody plays bad, you know, you don't. He didn't go
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out there, I'm gonna throw interception' that's just part of
the deal, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
If he turned the ball over. Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And you just have to, like McVay say, you have
to look at how you played and come back and
do better. But they didn't play great, and I honestly
and I thought they would lose that game.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell how bad
my wik was I had.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But I had a bad I lost every team I
was pulling fourth all I was four of them. My
high school lost in the playoffs and they were picked
to win. My college lost to to what's that school?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Shot caw. They lost the cow.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They were being the a SEC championship game, right, I
don't even like I hate Texas.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I was pulling for A and M. They lost.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I said, okay, I said, now I know the Rams
can't they just can't come and lose too. They lost too,
So all for everything, Thank god, I don't bet, but
all all my teams lost. But you know, like I said,
that's football. Yeah, it they didn't play great, but a
lot of it is just the defense, they didn't show up.
I mean, they couldn't stop them.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I was surprised how many big plays that Carolina had
against the Rams, because they don't you know, they're usually
they have been all season long, very very sound in
terms of their defense. But there were so many big
plays that Carolina made for touchdowns that just was uncharacteristic
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of the Rams and the way they've been all season long.
And you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes you go through
a season ed and and and a team that you know,
and and Carolina's kind of on that middle of the
road because they've lost some tough games and they're not
they're not bad. They're not a great team. Obviously, they're
they're still in the mix in the NFC South with
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with with Tampa Bay uh and they've been up and down.
But they've got players, and they've got young players that
are hungry. And you if you don't come ready to play,
and we say this all the time, you know this,
you don't come ready to play every single week in
the NFL, you can get beat, and you can get
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beat badly because they're always going to be good players.
On the other side, there's only a hand. It's not
like college, where you know, there's an eight million colleges
out there and they got to fill roster spots, and
they got to you know, you know, the linebackers or
the safeties or you know, wouldn't start on ninety percent
of the team, but they're starting on your team and
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you got to face them. It's not that way in
the NFL. It's the best of the best. And I
don't care if your record is two and eleven or
eleven and two. They got players and in in the NFL,
and if you don't come to play, you're gonna be
in for a rude awakening. And I think the Rams
got caught in that situation where there are some talented
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players in Carolina and Bryce Young had the game of
his life and the players weren't making plays for him.
And uh, that's just the nature of the beats. In
the NFL. There's there's no weekends off. You can't say
I'm playing you know, I'm you know back in your day,
s Mu, you know, we we playing Texas Tech, who
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may not have been great at that time. Okay, so
you're playing You're playing the Mexican rice. We're playing rice, right,
So okay, So Rice. We're playing Rice. You know, all
the starter is gonna be out of the game at
the end of the second quarter, you know what I mean,
we're gonna we're gonna run up forty on them by
the by halftime, we'll be out of this game. You
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can't say that in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You're right about that, right, But like you said, I
mean the defense, they just they did not they did
not show up. I mean, I'm not gonna say didn't
show up. They just didn't. They didn't play great. But
that's football. And you know people say all the time,
you know, people say, man, you know, why come they
can't throw the ball, can't run the ball? I say,
do you realize there was a pros on the other
side of that football? And I think they forget that.
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Those are professionals too. Those guys' jobs is to stop you.
I mean, that's what they're getting paid for. And they're
some teams, like you said, a team may be you know,
two and nine, a one and seven, but a lot
of those guys they have pride and then they want
to beat you. I mean, that's that's what it comes
down to it. But that game, man, like I said,
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I felt like that game was a trap game. I
ain't gonna say it's a trap game. I just feel like,
you know, they just made too many mistakes. You hear
me say this all the time, Rightney, If the Rams
don't turn the football over, you won't beat them.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Every game they turned the football game or football over,
I think two to three times, and every game lost.
They lost to Philly, they turned it over twice and
they got two field goals blocked. It's over San Francisco,
I think twice lost that game. It's over three times
in this game. Lost this game. If you don't turn
the ball over, you If they don't turn the ball over,
you don't beat them. If they do turn over, they've
got to get some turnovers from you. Two and Bryce
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Young had a good game. He really did. I mean,
like I said, it was twice fourth and two, fourth
and two, and he threw touchdowns. I mean he only
had two hundred and six yards for passing. You only
two hundred six shards passing. But they were able to
run the ball at will. It looked like it was
always second and three, second and two, and that's a
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good situation for a quarterback. I got a lot of options.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
See, it was critical for him to have a good game,
and it's critical for him to have numerous good games
because I think he's kind of a bubble guy. Now
they're trying to figure out if he's the guy or not.
And you could argue, may maybe he didn't have the
tools around him, he didn't have the protection. Okay, you
can make that argument, but that doesn't matter in their mind.
I think right now they're making a decision on if
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he's going to be the future or not. So it
was good since he's a local kid, it was good.
He played well in that game. Oh no, no, look Alabama,
he went there, and you know, the knock on on
a lot of these you know, these quarterbacks that come
from schools like Alabama when Alabama was dominant and and
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and had all of the athletes, or you know, even
Ohio State gets that neck, you know that knock right
now that they've got so many great athletes that the
quarterback is just a you know, they they could really
slot anybody in there at quarterback and they're going to
be successful. And at Alabama doing the run where Bryce
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Young was a similar thing. As you see, you know,
the different quarterbacks come out of Alabama and all the
national titles they they've won, I don't think there's one
really that has emerged as being a superstar in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So it is talent around you that that makes the difference,
and but sometimes they get overlooked. But I think Bryce
Young this was a this is a critical season for
him and and to to the to the point when
you're the number one pick in the draft, you've got
to show that you're the franchise guy, that you can
make it happen. And you know, he's had his ups
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and downs, but I think this has been a very
very good season, you know, for him to show the
folks in Carolina that I am that guy and if
you give me the right talent and the right tools
around me, I can be that guy. And that that
is probably. That is not probably. It is the biggest
win of his career. Beating the Rams, a team that
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everybody has already peddled in as the the NFC favorite,
and going to the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford being
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
UH.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To perform the way he performed in that game was big, big,
big for Bryce Young. See, the only thing I think
is this that, And I'm the guy that always says, well,
you know, just get into the tournament. I think it's
different in football. I think you want home field advantage.
That lost to the Rams because now they're tied. The
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Bears are nine in three. I can't believe they're hanging on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's mind with the Bears. You can't believe they're hanging on. Yeah,
it's mind the Bears. I think I'm still they're nine
and three. But you look at the Bears, I think
there's still a year away. They're not quite They're winning,
which is great, and I'm happy for Caleb because all
of the criticism that he's received over the last couple
of years, he finally got the coach that is quarterback
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friendly and an offensive minded coach, and him and Ben
Johnson have seemed to have gotten on the right page. So
I'm extremely happy for Caleb Williams in what Chicago is doing.
But I still don't believe when you look at the
teams around the league and especially in the NFC, they're good.
I don't know if they're the dog in a team
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that people with the record may have may have shown
or is showing right now, they're they're winning, but I
just think they're a year away from being really really
a good, good, good team. Okay, but still they're nine
and three somehow, some way. Let's say they won. Let's
say they finished with the best record. I mean Green
(24:23):
Bays e three won Seattle's nine and three. I'm saying
I think home field advantage meets an awful lot in
the playoffs. And I understand the Rams could have beat
the Eagles last year. Still I'd rather play so far
than in that weather.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
A right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So point being, if they won that game, you know,
trap game, whatever, off the day, they still are in
the driver's seat for home field. I think that means
everything for them. Now you know they're gonna make the
playoffs unless they completely implode.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think home field.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is it means that much for the Rams. Home field, Yeah,
I do. I don't want to see him play in
the cold back East. If they have home field, I
think they got a much better shot to win it all.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I agree. I agree with that Prayd. I mean, it's
always better to play at home, I mean in your stadium,
and unless unless you're playing an ideal weather, I think
about it's not gonna be ideal weather in Chicago. It's
not gonna be ideal weather in Philadelphia. I know what
black back there, it's the ideal weather. And it's stone
right in in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In LA for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But you know, going back to a lot of these quarterbacks,
you know, you know they bring these young quarterbacks in
riding and they wanted to start right away. I mean,
they want to they throw them in, they throw them
in the fire. I mean, Bryce Young was throwing a
bad football team from the beginning. I mean, and it's unfair.
And they want you and they but they want you
to be the guy. And you know Ridney well as
I do, it doesn't work like that. I told you
last week with Stutton Bennett when he came out of Georgia,
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what he went two national championships and he came to
the Rams, and I told you that, I asked, I
can I can't think of that big offensive line. We
were talking about it, and I asked him, I said,
what's going on? What happened with him? And to finally
every Hen said, you know what the word is is
that he wasn't you to seeing the defenses move so much?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And you know how that is the defense. When the
defense and none, they don't sit still.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They're they're they're moving from the time, but when they
get in the formation, they're moving from the time that
from before the snap. After the snap, they're still moving.
And some guys they can't pick that up. Justin Fields,
I always feel Justin Fields could have been a good quarterback,
but they were. He was running for his life in Chicago,
running for his life, and so was Caleb at last year.
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He was running for his life, running for his life.
Now he seems to have an offensive line. And you know,
if you don't have no offensive line, you've done. I mean,
you build a football team one or two ways. You
make the choice. You build it with a defensive line.
But you build with an offensive line. You don't build
it with receivers. You don't building with quarterbacks. You build
your team with the offensive line and the defensive line first.
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And I just believe that, Yeah, I would, I wouldvect.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We go to break.
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Speaker 3 (27:43):
Let's go all right, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Aaron Rodgers has not had a banner year for the Steelers,
and basically I think he jumped a shark, which probably
means jump yeah, old happy days.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Jump this shark?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You it's past. You're done. You've jumped the shark. What
you were in the past?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Anyway, you know, after another tough game, what he does
is he throws his wide receivers under the bus, which
is not unusual for him. You know, hey, don't look
at me, Do not look at me. I'll tell you
it's those guys. They're running the wrong routes. Runney, you
play quarterback, You ever do that? No? No, And it
(28:25):
was bad regardless if you you know, however you feel,
and you know what's going on during the week, you
don't expose your teammates to you know, what is notoriously
or what is known to be behind the scenes, you know, conversations.
(28:47):
You know, because he mentioned, you know we show up
the film sessions. If you show up to film sessions,
then you would understand what we're trying to do. So
he's basically calling them all out for not showing up
for meetings and not studying and not understanding what we're
trying to do, and not really taking one hundred percent
(29:10):
accountability for yourself, even if you're not wrong, even if
they're you know, some guys that look, we had a
film session that was supposed to start at eight, and
you guys don't show up. And we're do an independent
thing where quarterback and receivers are getting together to look
at some tape and try to get on the same page,
and guys don't show up for that because all those
(29:31):
things are voluntary. Basically, you know, with the air quotes
around it, you don't call them out publicly. You don't
do that as a quarterback and a supposed leader of
the team. You pull them aside, you know, behind the scenes,
and you go, hey, man, we got to get on
the same page. Hey hey, listen, fellas if we're going
(29:52):
to be great, we got to you know, during the meetings.
Everybody got to pay attention. Everybody's got to be on
the same page attention in the meetings. If we have
extra meetings or we're getting some extra work in after practice,
that's us, that's us. The media doesn't need to know
about that. And he exposed it to the media, which
(30:13):
is to me, it's just something that you don't do. Alright,
in trouble, Eric, I don't think we hear him.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right now, we lose Eric, Okay, we do all right,
got I said, well, right now, I gotta say I've done.
I've done just what he did it to a point,
to a point. I mean, when I was in Danapolis, man,
I gotta say that was the worst experience of football
my last probably year in there ever. I mean, because
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you know, I've never seen a football team, and you
know how football teams are. Football teams are usually close sect.
When I was we had a close football team. That
football team was so broken. And I talked to a guy,
one of my buddies named Eugene Daniels. He played that
for He played thirteen years in defensive back. He said,
Eric Man, he said, that was the most jealous team ever.
I've never seen an because he went to LSU. He said,
(31:11):
I were closer to LSU. I said, yeah, matter of fact,
I called him the team. Yeah, the coach team they were.
They were jealous. If your name was in the paper,
they wouldy would they would talk about it. I mean,
I got it, y'all say the man Ray Donaldson didn't
like him, and and Kevin called, oh my gosh. I
mean it was it was some guys on that team.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Man. It was just they would you know, they didn't care.
And that's what that's what. That's the frustrating part when
you frustrated.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
They don't care, you know, and they make comments. I
mean I think they made a comment said, well, you know,
we'll just we'll just let him come in and hit Eric.
I said, okay, I'll tell you what, they'll come and
hit me.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I throw that ball.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Between your legs and see how how that work out
for you, you know, you know, and then so you know,
you don't call your teammates out if they're real teammates
these guys were like when they say miserable and like,
I won't forget having called was so damn scary. He
was six foot seven but a big chicken, I mean,
just a chicken. And we played the Giants on I
(32:07):
think it was a Thursday night game. It's just in
Thursday night games. And he says, I'm over there arguing
one of the defensive line. Come on, Eric, man, you're
gonna piss him off. Man like they already pensed off.
Piss him off. I mean, I mean, you know, even
when you frustrate, I mean I was frustrated public like,
to the media.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This is what I said, I said, this is what
This was my comment. I said what I did, I
put it. I feel like I'm in I feel like
I'm in Vietnam with a B B gun right now.
That's how I felt. That's how I felt.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But you didn't call out one guy. No, I didn't
call out one guy right that to the point. No, No,
I didn't call it one guy. But no, I didn't
say him by name. I just said, I feel like
I'm in Vietnam of the B B gun. I mean,
because I mean when I say I won't forget Jeff George,
we were, we were we break the whole.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
It was a run play. Jeff said, Man, the hell
with this, I'm just gonna throw it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I said, cool, because they were in the backfield so
fast almost if we could turn around and hand the
ball off, that's how bad it was.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm like, this is this is right, But.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You never threw your offensive line under the bus.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Sit.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
They can't block or they're not getting me any room
to run. I can't back to the line of scrimmage
because I didn't to the front. Can't block nobody.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Well I felt like that. Yeah, no, I know you did.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, you will tell you why Roders. The frustrating
part is because they blame you. They blame they blamed me,
Like I'm like, why can I run? It's no place
to go. It'd be like a quarterback. I have no
like like you know Smith, you know with the Raiders,
he has no time to throw. He's been sacked fifteen
(33:46):
times in two weeks. You think that's fun?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You know that ain't no. You don't want a quarterback.
You ain't no fun? I mean no, but er, what
was the what would the lineman say to you? You
know when you Speke to that. They didn't say nothing
to me because we freid.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
We were not a close football team my last like
my last year and a half there, we were not
a close team.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We really weren't. I mean, what was that like?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Because I know you, you and the Rams. I remember
that time. Oh man, I loved it, half of them,
thom was. I was in college and I knew the
coaching staff down there. It was with John Robinson and
those guys, and Sampizi and all those guys who were
down there. But you guys were close close.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We were a close knit football team. If one guy
would fight, we'd all fight. I mean, that's how it worked.
I mean when nobody took the blame for nothing. You know,
we lost as a football team, we won as a
football team. That's why I said I had never seen
because in high school we were close team, and college
we were close team. But the Rams we were close team.
When I got there, it was, man.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It was just so much endie and jealousy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I'm like, oh my god, I'm you know, honestly, when
I say your name would be in the paper, Rodney,
and they'd be grumbling about his name of the paper.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
For you kidding me.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You're a team that never won anything either. That was
the thing that was it, and and and and that
was that was one of the problems. That's why they
couldn't win. That's why we couldn't win. We were too
we were too you were too divided. I mean it's
like it's like you know, I was in the Bible,
A divided house cannot stand, and we would when I
say divided. Still to this day, I think about how
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divided that football team was. It was just it was
horrible over there, horrible.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
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