December 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Fred brings up the controversy that surrounded Eric from his days at SMU and the Trans Am that he allegedly received from the school. We talk about the officiating at the end of the Lions-Steelers game. DK Metcalf laid his hands on a fan who claims that he did was call DK by his government name.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's do this the Monday before Christmas. We're
all here. We told you we'd worked this week. We're
here for you. Rodney's here, Eric's here. I do want
to say this. I know somebody that flow out of
LAX this weekend. For your own safety, do not go
to LAX. Do not fly out of LAX. It is
a zoo, Rodney. It is completely out of control.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, I know, I know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
In fact, Holly had come back from Kansas City last
night and her flight was delayed three times and finally
got in late, but she said, even late, it was
a absolute zoo at LAX. So you know, you're actually
if you don't have to, and that's that, you know,
we can say that, but there are a lot of
people that have to and just made these plans.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But just you're gonna have to get there so early, but.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Just be careful before you go because it is a
absolute madhouse at LAX, more so than usual from what
I hear.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I heard the same thing. Somebody was in line
at United Area Line Priority check in. All they had
to do was drop off their bags. There were so
many people online by the time this person got up
to drop off her bag. They said, sorry, we're closed,
go back there to the general line. It was like
forty minutes. Eric, you're going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh no, no, But I was at Lax this morning
dropping off Penny and my son. They're going to Indiana
visit her folks. So are you right? It was it
was a madhouse over there, but we have to go.
And yeah, it's only it was only an hour to
get there from from here from my house in Calabasas.
But when you get there, I mean, she says, standing
line was like she had an hour and forty five
(01:39):
minutes and it took all of it to get get
through security. And even if you got TSA pre check,
it doesn't make a difference, really, you know, yeah, it
shaved the mad house. You know what do you got clear?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
All the clear, cliff TSA, all of it, you know,
just everybody got everybody got clear, ye see everybody else
they hip to it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Too crowded now, d see this time of year, if
you tried and you people travel a lot, they're gonna
have TSA pre and clear as well. I remember one
time I went, I went, I forget where I was.
I think it was in Phoenix. You know I'm going
it's I'm rushing to get my flight. I'm like, I'm good.
I got TSA pre and they closed it. Oh yeah,
(02:18):
why am I? Why am I paying for TSA pre?
If they closing it? You still got flights going out.
You've got flights going out. So how was this closed?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's the one thing that should always be open, getting lined. Hey, nice,
try back in the line for you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Buddy, back of the line, back of the line. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was on with Gary and Shannon this morning. I
walked in. I always say hello to them on KF.
I love them. And they were talking about Eric when
you're on, and they said, you know, it's amazing that
we're still on the air because given what has happened
over the run of our visits together, we should have
been thrown off or fired like twenty times. They were
saying that on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Say what five, what what do we do?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Just because anything goes?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, she goes.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's like three guys sitting around talking. It's just like
three guys telling stories. She thinks the best thing we do. Actually,
but she told me the story. I didn't know this,
and I said, I was going to bring it up
to you. Right at the top of the show. Back
when you were at SMU, they gave you a car.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That you're talking about free.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They gave you a trans am? What somebody gave you it?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I'm from what are you talking about for? Who told
you that? Here's the thing. They brought it up this
morning because a couple of weeks ago. I said, Eric,
do you like fast cars? And Shannon said to me,
I can't believe you asked him that. And I went,
why will you know the story? I said, I don't
know the story that you shouldn't know that story.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I said, WHOA tell me about the story. I think
they looked it up online. You think you don't know
if you looked it up, Well, all I know is it,
said Gary looked something up and he goes, oh no,
it was a trans am and was from SMU. Did
you get a trans am? Put your mother's car from SMU.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Let's put it like this. I got a transjam. My
grandmother bought that car.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And the n C DOUBLEA came and investigated me for
months and they could not find anything wrong that we
had done.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay, so they gave it the car, give me no car,
and you did not give me. You did not give
me that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Grandmama's gone, Oh my grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Let me tell you, Let me tell you, Let me
tell you the story for this, and you want to know,
So I do want to know. I put it in
my buss in my book. Get the book anyway. So, uh,
when I was, when I was, you know, at Seed
the high school, it was a car to go down
and look at. Every weekend. It was a gold transam
at at Leo Johnigan Pontiac. I'd go down and look
at it, drive down there in my old beat up
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pick up and look at it. And I never could
take it for a test driver. Just look at it,
you know, walk around the car. So boom, let's fast forward.
So now I'm getting recruited by everybody. And one of
the big things and him is an Texas and him
as Aggie. Celie's an Aggie town, really aggy town. So
make a long story short one. I think it was
a Friday. My mother, my grandma mother, and my grandmother
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and my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And my real mom.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She said me, hey, Eric, we're gonna ride down to Houston,
so you want to you want to look at this transam.
I'm like, yeah, she said, okay, So we go down
to Houston. Look at the go down to Leo Johnny.
It's only about twenty some miles away. And it was
three other white men there and I didn't know. I
didn't know any of them. And he said go ahead,
take the car for a drive. So I took the
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car for a drive. And make a long story short,
my come back. My mother's my real my adopted mother, Bioda.
I said, you like it. I said, I like. She said, okay,
it's yours. I'm like, huh she says yours like okay.
So now boom. Now that said that's on a Friday. Now,
(05:57):
let's say Monday morning. The n C Double A got
the n C I tell you the story before Fredd
you forgot this. The guy, a guy from the n
C Double A was at my house that that that
Monday morning, I mean at the Seely High School that
Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I was I was in a lab class. He was
lab o.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Mister I forgot a clap by the class. I was
in biology. Biology. Clap comes to the door. That's in
the door. Mister Ball comes. He's my teacher. He says,
uh him talk to said yeah, Eric can you come up.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Hearent.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I'm like, yeah, I said, this guy wants to talk
to you. Walk outside. He said, yeah, I want to
talk to you about this the transam. I'm in the
car you have. I said, okay. I said, I can't
talk to you, call I can give you my mother's
UH address. So I had to go down to the
office and call my mom and said, mom, I said,
it's a guy. He wants to talk about the trans am.
I send him over to the house. It goes to
the house, goes and talk to her. I get home,
(06:44):
he's still there and and you know it's the story
could be long, but I'm making short as I can.
So we I saw that guy every day, Fred, even
on the weekends, for almost two months. Even though we
can't he he came to my house house so much.
He would have dinner with us. He was a black guy.
That's how that's how much we saw him. Then he
finally told he said, let me tell you. He said,
let me tell you something, Mistickerson. He said, we get
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between one hundred and one hundred and fifty calls a
day about this car. That's how many calls we get.
That's why we have to investigate it so thoroughly. And
he said, you know, I thought it was gonna be
another black kid about like, you know, getting the trouble
for a car. So now he has to go talk
to my hotel, to my grandmother, my grandfather, that lou
lives in Houston. Now my grandparents, my grandfather was a
crane operator for a year, so they got a new
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car pretty much every year, a new Cadillac, you know,
like you know, riding back in them days, cadillact. That
was the black man of saydes Ben. It was a
black man to say his band. So anyway, go talk
to my grandmother. All of a sudden, I don't see
the man anymore, Like I have to tell I don't
see him no more.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I know. I said, Mom, what happened that man? She said, yeah,
your grandmother told that man.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
She said, look, if I see you again, or if
anybody in a C double A comes to my house,
go down to see it again, I'm gonna sue you personally.
I'm gonna suit the NC double a personally. Never saw
him again. And that was it. And so make a
long story short, Now this is what happened. So I
found this out. I was in the pros. I said, Mom,
I said, tell me what happened with that car? She said,
you don't know what hap the car? I said, no,
(08:05):
She said, well, your grandmother and your grandfather they wrote
a check for the car. It was fourteen thousand, five hundred.
They wrote a check for the car, said and and
them gave them the money back. They gave him cash
for the car. Gave him the cash. So that's how
you that's how I said, Oh, okay, that's how I
got the car. So SMU did not buy the car. Mother,
If my grandmother really did buy the car and and
(08:25):
them paid the back for the car, I didn't go
to an m that's on them.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You got it was there was the old bamboozle they
got hood week See that's why they lost this weekend.
Oh man, they can't there. I'm not like him. They can't.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They can't wait a minute, all that talent. Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait what So your grandmother and
my grandfather went to the car dealership with you?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yep, right, they met me.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And said what do you think of this? What do
you want?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I wasn't like that. For I told you I'd ben't
look at this car for months. I'd go down and
look at the car. I knew what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, So they said, is that the one you want?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They said, go take it for a test drive. I
had never driven it. Go drive it and I came back.
It said you like it? I said, yeah, I like it. Okay,
it's yours. I didn't ask no questions. Look, when you're black,
you don't ask black people. We don't have black parents
and black women. You don't say nothing. Hey, if you
do do that, you go out and do that. Okay,
no problem. You know, grown posts in the tark, get
the room.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, all right. So here's the thing. Here's the thing.
So you had the carr you're driving around. We now
know A and M paid for the car. An M
paid for the car. Were they upset that you didn't
go to A and M?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What you think? What do you think? Let me ask you?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
What do you think? So?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Did you did you? Did you?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did you commit to A and M before SMU or
did you tell them that you possibly committed? I had
committed to A and M. I didn't want to go
no A and them? Man, I didn't you know what?
And it was a good.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
School and you didn't like Texas either, so you didn't
want to hate.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I hate university Texas. Can't stand there. Look, I don't
just like in them. And it was a good school.
But I'm gonna tell you I didn't like about A
and M. I didn't like they had no cheerleaders. They
had yell leaders some boys. I'm like, uh, where the
chierlead is that. I'm like, oh no, that ain't gonna work.
And I could not stand that uglass uniform that they
had with the guy with the big chin on it,
that they didn't have to they didn't have the Texas
(10:27):
and them. He had a guy with a big old
chin on it like he was running it was. It
looked horrible. I'm like, and you know, right that uniform
is big for a kid in the uniform to come
out of high spital.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But the uniform got to be sweet. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Said, I can't wait at that glass uniform and that
oh that ugly man on my helmet, you know, And
then and and boy cheerleaders are yell leaders.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm like, I can't do this. So and it was
too close to home. It was only like ninety miles away.
It was too close.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So so Ronie went to the Big Cilly. He went
to Dallas. I went to I went to I went
to I went to Dallas, Texas. Yeah, thank you for that. Now, Rodnie,
let's talk about what you got at USC. Oh we go,
let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, no, no, I mean it was whatever it was
it was back then. How did it work back then?
Because now you can do whatever you want, how did
it work back in the day. Because we just found
out Eric Kelly got a free car from Texas. A
and M didn't even go there.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Hey, that was the Southwest Conference back then. That you're
not going to do that. That was you are not
going to do. Everybody knew. Everybody knew that Southwest Conference.
They had all that money in Texas, all that oil money,
all that money in Texas. They knew all the Texas
schools was going doing something, doing something.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
That we couldn't do. We couldn't do it. S See,
we just couldn't it. I mean, I mean, come on, right,
y'all have tick. Yeah, because I remember John Robinson. Let
me tell you something free. Let me tell when they
recruited me. I'll never forget.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So John Hobbs I went there right after they they
were on they went on probation. Okay, they went in
probation for for like two years, of believe, right right
before I got there. So they were they were under
some sanctions.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So when they when they recruited me, they came to
my house and they talked to me and mine. I
think this is my my my real mother's husband, my stepfather,
and that he was because he was, you know, he
was kind of greedy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He wanted to be a little greeting. He said, so,
I mean, ma'am, so what what what? What? What can
we get?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And he told me because I didn't never hear him
say this, but the after and John Robinson told him, well,
you can sell your game tickets, you know for and
he was like, some game tickets, I can sell some
guarant tickets. What about some money? He said, text She
said anim Texas. And they after they off in car,
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they off in cattle.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They offer, yeah, yeah, there's a cattle, Fred, there's a
cattle instead big.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Back in Texans.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, I'm saying, they actually didn't offer you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, Fred, listen to me, they offered cattle. If they
did that, no, I.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Know, I know, but I can't believe it got to that.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, here's a cal houses, new houses and stuff and
stuff like that. Matter of fact. Uh, we's see what's
what's the one from went to went to Oklahoma to
show them the thirty thirty. The greatest was never was
never is never was. Mark Marcus Dupri, Marcus Dupre, mar
Marcus Dupre told me. He said that he got offered
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two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from I think it
was Mississippi State and one of the Mississett Money in
Mississippis And he said his grandmother mama told him get out.
I'm like what he said, he told him get out?
I said, brother, I don't know if I told him get.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Out on them. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Mark Dupre told me that he said, he said, man,
he said, I didn't get here, really get nothing at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So S said you could sell your game tickets. What
else did they say?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was really had some game tickets. I mean, I
didn't mean. I think the barter system Fred that's all
you know? Them them game tickets pilate went for I
don't know, maybe a little bit about. Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Face value like a bowl ticket, lipit more if you
if you haven't to go to the Rose Bowl, Fred,
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But as we've said it often on this show.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Fred, there's always a guy, always a guy, always a guy. Yeah,
go see the guy, guy, you know the guy you
got to issue, Go see the guy. O.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My guy. My guy was mister George Owens.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Matter of fact, I in my Hall of Fame speech
he had passed away, and I said, I said, and
for all you SU people, I said, I want to
thank my man, mister George Owens. I said, he passed away,
But I said, SMU people know who exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That was my guy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And when you would go to your guy, what would happen?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Eric?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
If I needed something, he would take care of it,
you know, if I needed some funny little money.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, it looked how mad it was and why
you know, you look at it now and it's it's
it's where it should have been right back when we
played uh BECA because you got a scholarship check and
it usually it would run out. The scholarship check was
so little that you've got for being on scholarship. It
was so little because you actually had to pay rent,
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you know, your freshman year. Usually in most places you
live in a dorm. Freshman year, they do that. Then
the second year through your senior year, you've got your
own place. So if you wanted to live off campus
or you want to live in a different place in
the school dorm, you got a scholarship check and that
was to last you all month. And that was paying rent,
that was paying for gas, that was paying for meals,
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that was paying for everything, and it always ran out.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It ran out.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Probably UTU had ten days left before that scholarship check,
you know, as that scholarship check was running out. So
there were guys that could not you know, from certain situations,
that could not get a meal. Because even I don't
know how it was with you, Eric, you only got
you only got like meals during the football season, and
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so you got what they called it training table, So
you got it during the football season, and then you
had to get your meals on your own in the
off season. And a lot of guys couldn't. A lot
of guys couldn't couldn't afford that. Or if you're say
you wanted to go on a date with a girl,
you couldn't afford it either, And and so that scholarship
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check would run out, and you and and then and
the rules were so strict where a coach could not
buy a guy a meal, a coach could not give
a guy a ride home. He's like, I'm stranded. I
can't uh car broke down, couldn't, couldn't, couldn't pick a
cay a guy his team as player up and drive
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him home. That was an NCAA violation. And your anything
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
See, yeah, y'all got We didn't get checks. You know,
we didn't get anything when I was in school. I mean,
you have a scholarship. You're on a scholarship, and you
know you got you got, you got your meal, you
got breakfast, lunch and dinner. You know, the hotel, so
you got all year, all year gong. But we got See,
we got no money you got you got no money.
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So imagine you're getting no money. You know, like you said,
going to date. We wasn't no days. You couldn't go
on to days. You had no money. I mean if
you had a car, you had no money for gas
less you know, my your mom or somebody sent you
some money, they had little deliver in it. So no,
we got nothing.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, and you're right, they couldn't they couldn't buy
you nothing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, so you were you almost stranded?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, we got a lot to get to. It's
only two hours shore. The Ford NFL Spotlight is presented
by Ford. Major rivalry in college football involves one of
the teams here in the city on hiatus. Also, we
got to talk about officiating in the National Football League.
All of that is next.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, Jingle Bell Rock, Welcome back to the Ford NFL Spotlight.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Rodney P. Fred Rogan the Hall of Fame Up. Eric Dickerson,
Come on, Fred, come on, let's do this. Fred. What
did you get when you were in college? What? What
kind of perks did you get? You know?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The theme of the start of the show was what
Eric and I got?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Rodney, Rodney, I've told you. First of all, I went
six months to a junior college, Phoenix Junior College, and
what did you get? I got a HARDI ham hardy
handshake and a warm smile. But what I would do
is when I was in high school back in the day,
uh it was Phoenix High School, home of the thunder
Dome and the Thunderbirds. I'd go out to Arizona State
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and I'd hang out there. And what I did is
I figured out how to get into the girl's dorm
and meet girls. That's what I did, the old girls dorm.
Just old pervert, what.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The old pervert?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was eighteen years old, Eric, I wasn't talking about last.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Week a premident at eighteen, now I was.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's how I met people, Eric, I didn't go stare
at them and work.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, Fred, look breaking the dorms, Frank Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hanging out, hanging out outside the women's dorm with their
as in your pocket, just kind of walking.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Come on, Fred, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No, that wasn't no Rodney.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
But but speaking of Arizona State, Fred, you didn't mean
to tell me Frank cush and that that whole crew
that he had back then was they were all good
and squeaky clean.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Listen. Not only did I grow up in Phoenix, I
worked at Channel twelve kpn x C NBC station. I was
there the night he was fired. I was working that night. Yeah,
and it happened before a game. Yeah, I remember going
and he was crying.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well that's because he like grabbed the guy, well had
he get.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He grabbed a punter. I remember the guy's name. It
was so vivid in my MinC because you think about
this Eric. He was in Arizona. He was the legend.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh yeah, and it was a nice guy you met him.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He was a hard I mean hard nose, hard but
fair kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But he was the legend at Arizona State and built
that program and and a hard nose got got kids
to play for him. And they were I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong for it, but they were in
the seventies. They were perennial nine ten win teams. Oh yeah,
that would you know, go beat up on some bigger,
(20:23):
bigger name teams around the country. And he got players
from l A that sc or u C l A
didn't want that came into Arizona State and just performed
for him. But they he was he was a legendary coach.
But yeah, he got into it with a It was
a punter, right, and he and he got an altercation
and he headbutted the punter and it was visible and
(20:45):
people saw it. Yeah, he did a wood basically, remember Yeah, Yeah,
I said, hey, hey, somebody was trying to congratulate the
guy on another team.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, kind of graduated, Yeah, yeah, pushed him in the throat.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
All right, let's do some stuff. First of all, USC
Notre Dame Rodney. The series is on hiatus until at
least twenty thirty. Yeah, I mean that's huge.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't like it because I do like the rivalries,
especially you know, the big Ones and Notre Dame. It
was one of the reasons why I went to USC.
I didn't like Notre Dame growing up, and I you know,
one of the big reasons was I used to watch
Anthony Davis go off on Notre Dame and it just
(21:36):
made me a USC fan when I was a young kid.
And to see this go away because of where you know,
college football is now, it's it's unfortunate, but I also
understand it. I mean, you look the USC is now
in the Big Ten and in the Big Ten, the
way the Big Ten is now when they've added Oregon, USC, UCLA,
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and Washington to the Big Ten in addition to having
to play the other teams in the Big Ten. Look
at usc U this year. You know they had to
they had to go to Illinois at and just remember
Illinois at the beginning of the season was ranked number
nine in the country. Right, they had to play Michigan State,
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and then they had to play Michigan Iowa here, and
then they had to go to Oregon to play in Oregon.
And so Notre Dame is sitting there as an independent
can pick and choose, you know, the schedule that they want,
and they maybe have four tough games a year. You know,
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they're still gonna play Navy, I believe, and they're gonna
play you know, Rutgers, and they're gonna play those teams,
you know, and then there's four games a year that
they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna really be challenged. Whereas
you know now that US he's in a Big Ten,
they're gonna play nine games a year. They're gonna be
Indiana when they're the number one team in the country.
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So you go up and down the Big ten list,
Penn State. I mean, all those teams are going to
be good and it's gonna be challenged. So now you're
adding a team or you have to play a team
that is an independent, and then you also got to
play them late in the year in November. So I
don't I don't know if if I hate it, I
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hate it, but I understand it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, well, well, you're saying basically, what are you saying,
right is they don't want to play tough opponents because
I've always thought, you know, the Dame, no no, the name,
they've They'll played maybe two or three tough games a year, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It, But all of a sudden they ranked high.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm like, I'm like, when you when you play nobody,
you're playing you know, Wyoming and in Tennessee, you know,
and you're playing Like I said, it's just it's Stanford
playing these these know, these no name schools. Then all
of a sudden, you play USC then you play Ohio State,
you know, and you get beat you know you you
You're like, no, so you wind up say ten and
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two because you lost the two tough games, but look
who you played. I've always said that about Notre Dame.
You know, they just you know, so basical they don't wan,
they don't want they don't want the competition. That's that's
what it is. Basically.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, So that that, I mean, you get it. It's like,
why are we playing a tough Big ten schedule and
then also have to play Notre Dame, Who's who's always
going to be fresh? Because they got to schedule probably
two cupcakes before they play USC.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, talking about officiating in the NFL. A couple of
things that happened yesterday, DK Metcalf. We'll get to that.
We'll get to that. I want to talk about the
officiating in the Lions Steelers game. Did you see that,
either one of you the end of the game. Yeah, yeah,
it was What are you talking about? First, the poor
official Carl Cheffers. I think it was when he tried
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to explain what happened. I took thirty minutes afterwards to
try to figure out a better way to say it.
I mean, there's an offensive pass interference call, and.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You're talking about, Yeah, the Amaral Saint Brown play that
he pitched for golf and all offensive interference.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Hey, he pushed off, he pushed off, he pushed off.
The comeback, he pushed.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, one hundred percent PI at that point, even though
the Lions score right and they had battled back, they
looked awful and Jared Goff caught fire. They came back.
It appeared to the naked eye they won because they
scored on that. I'm on Ross Saint Brown pass interference.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It was a pick played the game.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, he just wasn't a pick.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He just ran no the flay before and they really
scored when they scored the touchdown, and he that was.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
A pick, right, that was offensive interference as well.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah that was a pick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay. Anyway, so at that point, and everybody's really confused,
But the flag was for offensive pass interference. Why wouldn't
the official have just stood there as everybody waited. I mean,
they must have talked for five minutes, but it was simple.
It was offensive pass interference, so that negates anything. Why
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didn't he say there is no score offensive pass interference
on number fourteen. Time has expired. The game is over.
That's all he had to say. The way he explained it,
I thought, what is on the field? The call was touchdown,
but then there's no touchdown because of this, but by
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rule that can't be reviewed. I thought, what the hell
is this guy saying?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, except it wasn't even a touchdown because he wasn't
in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He went in his zone and he caught the ball.
He was out of the end zone the game, right, Jared.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He flipped it the Jared Golf who scored it clearly
got into the end zone. Yea, if he didn't push off.
It would have been a touchdown, but it would have
been a touch because he wasn't down, right, He wasn't
down when he flipped it the Jared Golf and Jared
took it in and scored and caught Pittsburgh off guard.
But clearly, yeah, clearly all he had to say was
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offensive passing appearance games over right, because that was the
call correct.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
What was all of this other stuff? I mean, at
first he said the ruling on the field is a touchdown,
and the crowd went crazy. Yeah, but there is no touchdown.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
About You set them up, You set them up. What
do you think about? What do you think about referees
having to go do press conferences after games? I like it, Yeah,
I like it and and answer questions like players do,
coaches do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm one hundred percent in I think they should. Yeah,
they have the pool reporter.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think in the NFL too, But I think you should. Okay,
come on in, you got ten minutes. Go ask him, right,
ask him and the referee and they know who else
goes in there, like if there's a controversy call or no,
just a referee.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Gance answered the guy in chars asked, answer, what about
the guy that called a controversial pass interference.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Call in appearance? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No, just the refereen to answer for it. No, he
speaks for the team. He's paid to speak for the team.
He's in charge. Even if the guy blew it, he
speaks for the team. You don't bring that guy in
because that girl gets spent around in circles.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well you know, well you can see right now that
you cannot.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Even criticize these referees because they find pooking the coup
at twenty five thousand dollars. And I'm gona telling you
the referee and is horrible. It is bad. I mean,
you know, they making some calls that I'm like what
I mean? I mean, look, you can call holding almost
on every place, especially on the offensive line and defensive line.
It's always some holding going now, but they were making
some really really bad calls I mean, And I guess
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the thing is is that you cannot don't understand. So
basically you can't criticize him. You can't say anything anything
about it about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
No, you can't, And that don't make sense. You can
critically that coach can't. There's been several coaches that got
fined for that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, Eric pokinga, you know, questioning a call. I get it,
pooking a coola going. These guys are blowing calls so
they can be in their buddies text chain.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
No, that's I don't know. I don't know what he said.
I'm gonna say that much. I don't. I don't know
what he said.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
But you can't even talk about the even guys saying
stuff that they don't agree with the referees.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Fred, you know they made a bad call.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Here, Pookah said, suggested that they were doing it on purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't know. He said
that suggested that they they got it. They got together
afterwards just to show out out, you know, on what
made my call?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You see my call that wouldn't really pass interferens man,
that was I just made that call to get on TV.
That's kind of what he looked at riding. I felt
like that too. I'm like the referees on TV, the
players off. He may not have been wrong, he may
not have been, but you can't say it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'm like, my god, you can't say nothing these days.
I mean, she's what whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Did you see, DK Metcalf? Did you see smack that fan?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And the first thing they said on the broadcast, by
the way, is wait, you know they really couldn't do
anything because the officials didn't see it. Well, of course
they didn't see it. Why are they going to be
watching a guy on the sideline? And and the question
and apparently DK Metcalf does not like to be be
known by his given name. This is the story, and
this guy is calling him by his given name, just
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keep saying it over and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
That's what he said. That's what's right.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And then the fan came out said, hey, I'm sorry.
I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
What are you gonna say? I'm wrong? Man? You know
what I didn't. I did call him. I did call
him his name.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Like the NBA, you know, NBA player can point out
a fan in the crowd and say.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I get he gotta go right, and they'll take him out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And they'll take him out of there and and maybe
ban him for a period of time. And we don't
know what was said, but that it was definitely more.
I gotta believe it was more than just what that
I'll call him by his given name, and that's what
set him off to grab his hair or grab him
and then take a swing at him. And that if
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DK Metcalf is suspended, which looks like he is, then
there's something has to happen to that fan.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Too, exactly.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I mean, because Fred, I'm telling you, man, these fans
you don't understand. You don't play, you never played. These
fans stay some some crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, hold it right there, Hold it right there.
We'll do this on the other side. I will come back.
Let's hear some of the stuff they've said.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You sure you want to hear that? Oh yeah, come on,
it's the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Welcome back to the Ford, NFL Spotlight running beat Fred
Rogan in the Hall of Fame, Eric Dickerson, let's go, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
All right, ck you were going to talk about the
kinds of things that you would hear.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Well, I mean, Fred, I mean some some of the
stuff is so derogatory, some stuff I can't say on air.
I mean, Rodney know, I mean I told you before,
I told you the story before. When I was in Chicago,
we played the Bears on a Monday night football game
and Soldier Field, you could it was it was a
way the stands they had like people could walk down,
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you know, closely. They couldn't come down because they had
to got the guys standing there by, you know, by
the field. It was like an opening. They could walk
down down the stairs to the field. It was like
four of them. And this guy was heckling me, you know,
he kept heckling me, and you know, and like you
don't want to say nothing. You know, you don't want
to say anything to these guys, I mean, because you
don't want to get them going. And he kept on
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and then he couldn't get my attention. Then he then
he then he caught my mother's name out. He said, yeah,
and f Vowler Dickerson. Oh no, dog, that don't work
for me. I'm now I'm going into the stands because
I was gonna really I was going with his ass.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
They stopped some when the players jumped and they say, man,
they got to get him out of here, you know,
and then I think they make the guy leave. But
just it's just some of the stuff, like I know
you're a fan, but you can't be doing that kind
of stuff. You can't be saying stuff you can't you
can't you can't. You can't cheer when a player gets hurt.
I mean, I'm like, you know, like I see some
of these people they make these means and players get
hurt like this funny. I mean, how about if that
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was your son, that was your daughter, that was that
was not down on the field, on the court, how
would you feel then? I mean it's I mean, some
of the stuff is it's it's disturbing and it's frustrating.
But like you say, you try to keep your cool
as much as you can. I mean, and like I said,
I've had some some real derogatory things said towards me
and other players, especially in myself, you know, you know,
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whether the N word and all kinds of stuff, and
they were like, I mean, what can you do for it?
I mean, back in those days, equally couldn't do nothing.
I mean they wouldn't. You wouldn't you didn't want to
go in the stand if you want too, But she
didn't want to. I think I think I told you
this story. One of the funniest ones to me was
me and a guy played the Jets, and me and
him was going back and forth. I'm I'm going me
and him literally going back and forth and he says,
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are you old fumbling bumb I'm like, few, man.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Man, what a couple of playlet would happened fumbled? I'm like,
oh my god, I gotta go back to this bitch
with this clown. He's like, see, you ain't nothing but
old bomb fumbling.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The I go lie, I said, are you are?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You got me with?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
You got me with that? And at the end I
ended up winning the game. We had a touchdown like
a thirty oeth that ended up winning the game. So
I come to the sideline. Now I'm on him and
I'm I'm I'm talking about him. I said, want you?
I said, wyn't you sit your ass down? I said,
you probably got a little old bitty wiena United say Wiena.
And this girl was sitting next to him and she
busted out laughing. I said, oh, so you do got
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a little one, huh man, And everybody in that section
was laughing. That's how I shut him up. He sit down,
you know, I mean, he didn't say nothing else. I'm like,
so I was riding him, but I mean, but you
don't want to have to do that, man, I mean,
that's that's just this unsportsman like on our behalf and
on on the fan dem come there enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
If you pull for your team, pull for your team.
And there's seats that are right behind the bench that
you can hear everything, and you know as much as
people that will block it out, block it out, block
it out. And through Eric's point, you you hear stuff.
You can't turn your ears off, and you hear it.
And then you know when somebody talks about your family,
your mother, like he said, you know that's that's just
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say that's that he crossed the line. Then you cross
the line and and it shouldn't be it shouldn't be
had And like I said, in the NBA, somebody crosses
that line, player has the right to get that that
person up out of the out of the arena. It's
a little bit harder in the NFL, but it's still
crossing the line. Always felt that it was.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It was.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
There was always people too in the in the family sections,
the family sections. Knowing that your family's there, your kids
are there, whether it's your brother, your your husband, and
your dad playing out there, and there are people in
that section that are brutal, brutal about you know what's
going on on the field, Rodney, didn't you say that.
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Even Holly had to deal with that and it was
her own family members.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That was.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Some ignorant family members. Everybody everybody has one friend. I
got them tickets to the game and they coming out,
you know, yelling at me and a physical altercation in
the stadium in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah. But but yeah, she but she would hear it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
She would hear it in the stands, and there was
points and you've you we've talked about it. We've heard
this from different people where guys would like tell their
family don't go to the games. You cannot go the
games because just the nastiness of the fan base and
the fans that around you, and that would come from
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home fans a lot of times that they wouldn't let
their wives or their kids go to the games because
they either made a bad play the game before this,
you know, or had a big time bad blundered the
season before and the fans would just recognize them in
the stands and go at them. And you know, we've
heard of kids going to school and getting bullied at
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school because their dad didn't play well. It's it's it's
very difficult and again to Eric's point, You know, you
shouldn't allow the fans shouldn't be allowed to disrespect another
human being. I don't care if you're a winner, a
uniform or not. And the don't care if you're paying
a salary. Oh, I bought my ticket. There's a line
that you cannot cross and you should not cross.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And that's exactly what you said, Rodney right there, that's
exactly what you hear him say. I bought my tea.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I pay for this ticket. So you pay for this ticket,
so you figure you can do what you want to do.
You pay this ticket, you can get your ass whooped too.
You know, your ass whooping up to.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
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Speaker 1 (38:12):
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All right, let's do this the Monday before Christmas. We're
all here. We told you we'd worked this week. We're
here for you. Rodney's here, Eric's here. I do want
to say this. I know somebody that flow out of
LAX this weekend. For your own safety, do not go
to LAX. Do not fly out of LAX. It is
a zoo, Rodney. It is completely out of control.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, I know, I know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
In fact, Holly had come back from Kansas City last
night and her flight was delayed three times and finally
got in late, but she said, even late, it was
a absolute zoo at LAX. So you know, you're actually
if you don't have to, and that's that, you know,
we can say that, but there are a lot of
people that have to and just made these plans.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But just you're gonna have to get there so early, but.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Just be careful before you go because it is a
absolute madhouse at LAX, more so than usual from what
I hear.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I heard the same thing. Somebody was in line
at United Area Line Priority check in. All they had
to do was drop off their bags. There were so
many people online by the time this person got up
to drop off her bag. They said, sorry, we're closed,
go back there to the general line. It was like
forty minutes. Eric, you're going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh no, no, But I was at Lax this morning
dropping off Penny and my son. They're going to Indiana
visit her folks. So are you right? It was it
was a madhouse over there, but we have to go.
And yeah, it's only it was only an hour to
get there from from here from my house in Calabasas.
But when you get there, I mean, she says, standing
line was like she had an hour and forty five
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minutes and it took all of it to get get
through security. And even if you got TSA pre check,
it doesn't make a difference, really, you know, yeah, it
shaved the mad house. You know what do you got clear?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
All the clear, cliff TSA, all of it, you know,
just everybody got everybody got clear, ye see everybody else
they hip to it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Too crowded now, d see this time of year, if
you tried and you people travel a lot, they're gonna
have TSA pre and clear as well. I remember one
time I went, I went, I forget where I was.
I think it was in Phoenix. You know I'm going
it's I'm rushing to get my flight. I'm like, I'm good.
I got TSA pre and they closed it. Oh yeah,
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why am I? Why am I paying for TSA pre?
If they closing it? You still got flights going out.
You've got flights going out. So how was this closed?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's the one thing that should always be open, getting lined. Hey, nice,
try back in the line for you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Buddy, back of the line, back of the line. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was on with Gary and Shannon this morning. I
walked in. I always say hello to them on KF.
I love them. And they were talking about Eric when
you're on, and they said, you know, it's amazing that
we're still on the air because given what has happened
over the run of our visits together, we should have
been thrown off or fired like twenty times. They were
saying that on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Say what five, what what do we do?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Just because anything goes?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, she goes.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's like three guys sitting around talking. It's just like
three guys telling stories. She thinks the best thing we do. Actually,
but she told me the story. I didn't know this,
and I said, I was going to bring it up
to you. Right at the top of the show. Back
when you were at SMU, they gave you a car.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That you're talking about free.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They gave you a trans am? What somebody gave you it?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I'm from what are you talking about for? Who told
you that? Here's the thing. They brought it up this
morning because a couple of weeks ago. I said, Eric,
do you like fast cars? And Shannon said to me,
I can't believe you asked him that. And I went,
why will you know the story? I said, I don't
know the story that you shouldn't know that story.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I said, WHOA tell me about the story. I think
they looked it up online. You think you don't know
if you looked it up, Well, all I know is it,
said Gary looked something up and he goes, oh no,
it was a trans am and was from SMU. Did
you get a trans am? Put your mother's car from SMU.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Let's put it like this. I got a transjam. My
grandmother bought that car.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And the n C DOUBLEA came and investigated me for
months and they could not find anything wrong that we
had done.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay, so they gave it the car, give me no car,
and you did not give me. You did not give
me that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Grandmama's gone, Oh my grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Let me tell you, Let me tell you, Let me
tell you the story for this, and you want to know,
So I do want to know. I put it in
my buss in my book. Get the book anyway. So, uh,
when I was, when I was, you know, at Seed
the high school, it was a car to go down
and look at. Every weekend. It was a gold transam
at at Leo Johnigan Pontiac. I'd go down and look
at it, drive down there in my old beat up
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pick up and look at it. And I never could
take it for a test driver. Just look at it,
you know, walk around the car. So boom, let's fast forward.
So now I'm getting recruited by everybody. And one of
the big things and him is an Texas and him
as Aggie. Celie's an Aggie town, really aggy town. So
make a long story short one. I think it was
a Friday. My mother, my grandma mother, and my grandmother
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and my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And my real mom.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She said me, hey, Eric, we're gonna ride down to Houston,
so you want to you want to look at this transam.
I'm like, yeah, she said, okay, So we go down
to Houston. Look at the go down to Leo Johnny.
It's only about twenty some miles away. And it was
three other white men there and I didn't know. I
didn't know any of them. And he said go ahead,
take the car for a drive. So I took the
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car for a drive. And make a long story short,
my come back. My mother's my real my adopted mother, Bioda.
I said, you like it. I said, I like. She said, okay,
it's yours. I'm like, huh she says yours like okay.
So now boom. Now that said that's on a Friday. Now,
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let's say Monday morning. The n C Double A got
the n C I tell you the story before Fredd
you forgot this. The guy, a guy from the n
C Double A was at my house that that that
Monday morning, I mean at the Seely High School that
Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I was I was in a lab class. He was
lab o.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Mister I forgot a clap by the class. I was
in biology. Biology. Clap comes to the door. That's in
the door. Mister Ball comes. He's my teacher. He says,
uh him talk to said yeah, Eric can you come up.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Hearent.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I'm like, yeah, I said, this guy wants to talk
to you. Walk outside. He said, yeah, I want to
talk to you about this the transam. I'm in the
car you have. I said, okay. I said, I can't
talk to you, call I can give you my mother's
UH address. So I had to go down to the
office and call my mom and said, mom, I said,
it's a guy. He wants to talk about the trans am.
I send him over to the house. It goes to
the house, goes and talk to her. I get home,
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he's still there and and you know it's the story
could be long, but I'm making short as I can.
So we I saw that guy every day, Fred, even
on the weekends, for almost two months. Even though we
can't he he came to my house house so much.
He would have dinner with us. He was a black guy.
That's how that's how much we saw him. Then he
finally told he said, let me tell you. He said,
let me tell you something, Mistickerson. He said, we get
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between one hundred and one hundred and fifty calls a
day about this car. That's how many calls we get.
That's why we have to investigate it so thoroughly. And
he said, you know, I thought it was gonna be
another black kid about like, you know, getting the trouble
for a car. So now he has to go talk
to my hotel, to my grandmother, my grandfather, that lou
lives in Houston. Now my grandparents, my grandfather was a
crane operator for a year, so they got a new
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car pretty much every year, a new Cadillac, you know,
like you know, riding back in them days, cadillact. That
was the black man of saydes Ben. It was a
black man to say his band. So anyway, go talk
to my grandmother. All of a sudden, I don't see
the man anymore, Like I have to tell I don't
see him no more.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I know. I said, Mom, what happened that man? She said, yeah,
your grandmother told that man.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
She said, look, if I see you again, or if
anybody in a C double A comes to my house,
go down to see it again, I'm gonna sue you personally.
I'm gonna suit the NC double a personally. Never saw
him again. And that was it. And so make a
long story short, Now this is what happened. So I
found this out. I was in the pros. I said, Mom,
I said, tell me what happened with that car? She said,
you don't know what hap the car? I said, no,
(08:05):
She said, well, your grandmother and your grandfather they wrote
a check for the car. It was fourteen thousand, five hundred.
They wrote a check for the car, said and and
them gave them the money back. They gave him cash
for the car. Gave him the cash. So that's how
you that's how I said, Oh, okay, that's how I
got the car. So SMU did not buy the car. Mother,
If my grandmother really did buy the car and and
(08:25):
them paid the back for the car, I didn't go
to an m that's on them.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You got it was there was the old bamboozle they
got hood week See that's why they lost this weekend.
Oh man, they can't there. I'm not like him. They can't.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They can't wait a minute, all that talent. Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait what So your grandmother and
my grandfather went to the car dealership with you?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yep, right, they met me.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And said what do you think of this? What do
you want?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I wasn't like that. For I told you I'd ben't
look at this car for months. I'd go down and
look at the car. I knew what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, So they said, is that the one you want?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They said, go take it for a test drive. I
had never driven it. Go drive it and I came back.
It said you like it? I said, yeah, I like it. Okay,
it's yours. I didn't ask no questions. Look, when you're black,
you don't ask black people. We don't have black parents
and black women. You don't say nothing. Hey, if you
do do that, you go out and do that. Okay,
no problem. You know, grown posts in the tark, get
the room.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, all right. So here's the thing. Here's the thing.
So you had the carr you're driving around. We now
know A and M paid for the car. An M
paid for the car. Were they upset that you didn't
go to A and M?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What you think? What do you think? Let me ask you?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
What do you think? So?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Did you did you? Did you?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did you commit to A and M before SMU or
did you tell them that you possibly committed? I had
committed to A and M. I didn't want to go
no A and them? Man, I didn't you know what?
And it was a good.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
School and you didn't like Texas either, so you didn't
want to hate.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I hate university Texas. Can't stand there. Look, I don't
just like in them. And it was a good school.
But I'm gonna tell you I didn't like about A
and M. I didn't like they had no cheerleaders. They
had yell leaders some boys. I'm like, uh, where the
chierlead is that. I'm like, oh no, that ain't gonna work.
And I could not stand that uglass uniform that they
had with the guy with the big chin on it,
that they didn't have to they didn't have the Texas
(10:27):
and them. He had a guy with a big old
chin on it like he was running it was. It
looked horrible. I'm like, and you know, right that uniform
is big for a kid in the uniform to come
out of high spital.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But the uniform got to be sweet. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Said, I can't wait at that glass uniform and that
oh that ugly man on my helmet, you know, And
then and and boy cheerleaders are yell leaders.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm like, I can't do this. So and it was
too close to home. It was only like ninety miles away.
It was too close.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So so Ronie went to the Big Cilly. He went
to Dallas. I went to I went to I went
to I went to Dallas, Texas. Yeah, thank you for that. Now, Rodnie,
let's talk about what you got at USC. Oh we go,
let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, no, no, I mean it was whatever it was
it was back then. How did it work back then?
Because now you can do whatever you want, how did
it work back in the day. Because we just found
out Eric Kelly got a free car from Texas. A
and M didn't even go there.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Hey, that was the Southwest Conference back then. That you're
not going to do that. That was you are not
going to do. Everybody knew. Everybody knew that Southwest Conference.
They had all that money in Texas, all that oil money,
all that money in Texas. They knew all the Texas
schools was going doing something, doing something.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
That we couldn't do. We couldn't do it. S See,
we just couldn't it. I mean, I mean, come on, right,
y'all have tick. Yeah, because I remember John Robinson. Let
me tell you something free. Let me tell when they
recruited me. I'll never forget.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So John Hobbs I went there right after they they
were on they went on probation. Okay, they went in
probation for for like two years, of believe, right right
before I got there. So they were they were under
some sanctions.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So when they when they recruited me, they came to
my house and they talked to me and mine. I
think this is my my my real mother's husband, my stepfather,
and that he was because he was, you know, he
was kind of greedy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He wanted to be a little greeting. He said, so,
I mean, ma'am, so what what what? What? What can
we get?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And he told me because I didn't never hear him
say this, but the after and John Robinson told him, well,
you can sell your game tickets, you know for and
he was like, some game tickets, I can sell some
guarant tickets. What about some money? He said, text She
said anim Texas. And they after they off in car,
(12:39):
they off in cattle.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They offer, yeah, yeah, there's a cattle, Fred, there's a
cattle instead big.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Back in Texans.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, I'm saying, they actually didn't offer you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, Fred, listen to me, they offered cattle. If they
did that, no, I.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Know, I know, but I can't believe it got to that.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, here's a cal houses, new houses and stuff and
stuff like that. Matter of fact. Uh, we's see what's
what's the one from went to went to Oklahoma to
show them the thirty thirty. The greatest was never was
never is never was. Mark Marcus Dupri, Marcus Dupre, mar
Marcus Dupre told me. He said that he got offered
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two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from I think it
was Mississippi State and one of the Mississett Money in
Mississippis And he said his grandmother mama told him get out.
I'm like what he said, he told him get out?
I said, brother, I don't know if I told him get.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Out on them. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Mark Dupre told me that he said, he said, man,
he said, I didn't get here, really get nothing at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So S said you could sell your game tickets. What
else did they say?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I was really had some game tickets. I mean, I
didn't mean. I think the barter system Fred that's all
you know? Them them game tickets pilate went for I
don't know, maybe a little bit about. Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Face value like a bowl ticket, lipit more if you
if you haven't to go to the Rose Bowl, Fred,
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But as we've said it often on this show.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Fred, there's always a guy, always a guy, always a guy. Yeah,
go see the guy, guy, you know the guy you
got to issue, Go see the guy. O.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My guy. My guy was mister George Owens.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Matter of fact, I in my Hall of Fame speech
he had passed away, and I said, I said, and
for all you SU people, I said, I want to
thank my man, mister George Owens. I said, he passed away,
But I said, SMU people know who exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That was my guy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And when you would go to your guy, what would happen?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Eric?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
If I needed something, he would take care of it,
you know, if I needed some funny little money.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, it looked how mad it was and why
you know, you look at it now and it's it's
it's where it should have been right back when we
played uh BECA because you got a scholarship check and
it usually it would run out. The scholarship check was
so little that you've got for being on scholarship. It
was so little because you actually had to pay rent,
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you know, your freshman year. Usually in most places you
live in a dorm. Freshman year, they do that. Then
the second year through your senior year, you've got your
own place. So if you wanted to live off campus
or you want to live in a different place in
the school dorm, you got a scholarship check and that
was to last you all month. And that was paying rent,
that was paying for gas, that was paying for meals,
(15:33):
that was paying for everything, and it always ran out.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It ran out.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Probably UTU had ten days left before that scholarship check,
you know, as that scholarship check was running out. So
there were guys that could not you know, from certain situations,
that could not get a meal. Because even I don't
know how it was with you, Eric, you only got
you only got like meals during the football season, and
(15:59):
so you got what they called it training table, So
you got it during the football season, and then you
had to get your meals on your own in the
off season. And a lot of guys couldn't. A lot
of guys couldn't couldn't afford that. Or if you're say
you wanted to go on a date with a girl,
you couldn't afford it either, And and so that scholarship
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check would run out, and you and and then and
the rules were so strict where a coach could not
buy a guy a meal, a coach could not give
a guy a ride home. He's like, I'm stranded. I
can't uh car broke down, couldn't, couldn't, couldn't pick a
cay a guy his team as player up and drive
(16:42):
him home. That was an NCAA violation. And your anything
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
See, yeah, y'all got We didn't get checks. You know,
we didn't get anything when I was in school. I mean,
you have a scholarship. You're on a scholarship, and you
know you got you got, you got your meal, you
got breakfast, lunch and dinner. You know, the hotel, so
you got all year, all year gong. But we got See,
we got no money you got you got no money.
(17:07):
So imagine you're getting no money. You know, like you said,
going to date. We wasn't no days. You couldn't go
on to days. You had no money. I mean if
you had a car, you had no money for gas
less you know, my your mom or somebody sent you
some money, they had little deliver in it. So no,
we got nothing.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, and you're right, they couldn't they couldn't buy
you nothing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, so you were you almost stranded?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, we got a lot to get to. It's
only two hours shore. The Ford NFL Spotlight is presented
by Ford. Major rivalry in college football involves one of
the teams here in the city on hiatus. Also, we
got to talk about officiating in the National Football League.
All of that is next.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, Jingle Bell Rock, Welcome back to the Ford NFL Spotlight.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Rodney P. Fred Rogan the Hall of Fame Up. Eric Dickerson,
Come on, Fred, come on, let's do this. Fred. What
did you get when you were in college? What? What
kind of perks did you get? You know?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
The theme of the start of the show was what
Eric and I got?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Rodney, Rodney, I've told you. First of all, I went
six months to a junior college, Phoenix Junior College, and
what did you get? I got a HARDI ham hardy
handshake and a warm smile. But what I would do
is when I was in high school back in the day,
uh it was Phoenix High School, home of the thunder
Dome and the Thunderbirds. I'd go out to Arizona State
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and I'd hang out there. And what I did is
I figured out how to get into the girl's dorm
and meet girls. That's what I did, the old girls dorm.
Just old pervert, what.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The old pervert?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was eighteen years old, Eric, I wasn't talking about last.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Week a premident at eighteen, now I was.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's how I met people, Eric, I didn't go stare
at them and work.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, Fred, look breaking the dorms, Frank Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hanging out, hanging out outside the women's dorm with their
as in your pocket, just kind of walking.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Come on, Fred, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
No, that wasn't no Rodney.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
But but speaking of Arizona State, Fred, you didn't mean
to tell me Frank cush and that that whole crew
that he had back then was they were all good
and squeaky clean.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Listen. Not only did I grow up in Phoenix, I
worked at Channel twelve kpn x C NBC station. I was
there the night he was fired. I was working that night. Yeah,
and it happened before a game. Yeah, I remember going
and he was crying.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well that's because he like grabbed the guy, well had
he get.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He grabbed a punter. I remember the guy's name. It
was so vivid in my MinC because you think about
this Eric. He was in Arizona. He was the legend.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh yeah, and it was a nice guy you met him.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He was a hard I mean hard nose, hard but
fair kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But he was the legend at Arizona State and built
that program and and a hard nose got got kids
to play for him. And they were I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong for it, but they were in
the seventies. They were perennial nine ten win teams. Oh yeah,
that would you know, go beat up on some bigger,
(20:23):
bigger name teams around the country. And he got players
from l A that sc or u C l A
didn't want that came into Arizona State and just performed
for him. But they he was he was a legendary coach.
But yeah, he got into it with a It was
a punter, right, and he and he got an altercation
and he headbutted the punter and it was visible and
(20:45):
people saw it. Yeah, he did a wood basically, remember Yeah, Yeah,
I said, hey, hey, somebody was trying to congratulate the
guy on another team.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, kind of graduated, Yeah, yeah, pushed him in the throat.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
All right, let's do some stuff. First of all, USC
Notre Dame Rodney. The series is on hiatus until at
least twenty thirty. Yeah, I mean that's huge.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't like it because I do like the rivalries,
especially you know, the big Ones and Notre Dame. It
was one of the reasons why I went to USC.
I didn't like Notre Dame growing up, and I you know,
one of the big reasons was I used to watch
Anthony Davis go off on Notre Dame and it just
(21:36):
made me a USC fan when I was a young kid.
And to see this go away because of where you know,
college football is now, it's it's unfortunate, but I also
understand it. I mean, you look the USC is now
in the Big Ten and in the Big Ten, the
way the Big Ten is now when they've added Oregon, USC, UCLA,
(22:01):
and Washington to the Big Ten in addition to having
to play the other teams in the Big Ten. Look
at usc U this year. You know they had to
they had to go to Illinois at and just remember
Illinois at the beginning of the season was ranked number
nine in the country. Right, they had to play Michigan State,
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and then they had to play Michigan Iowa here, and
then they had to go to Oregon to play in Oregon.
And so Notre Dame is sitting there as an independent
can pick and choose, you know, the schedule that they want,
and they maybe have four tough games a year. You know,
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they're still gonna play Navy, I believe, and they're gonna
play you know, Rutgers, and they're gonna play those teams,
you know, and then there's four games a year that
they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna really be challenged. Whereas
you know now that US he's in a Big Ten,
they're gonna play nine games a year. They're gonna be
Indiana when they're the number one team in the country.
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So you go up and down the Big ten list,
Penn State. I mean, all those teams are going to
be good and it's gonna be challenged. So now you're
adding a team or you have to play a team
that is an independent, and then you also got to
play them late in the year in November. So I
don't I don't know if if I hate it, I
(23:24):
hate it, but I understand it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, well, well, you're saying basically, what are you saying,
right is they don't want to play tough opponents because
I've always thought, you know, the Dame, no no, the name,
they've They'll played maybe two or three tough games a year, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It, But all of a sudden they ranked high.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm like, I'm like, when you when you play nobody,
you're playing you know, Wyoming and in Tennessee, you know,
and you're playing Like I said, it's just it's Stanford
playing these these know, these no name schools. Then all
of a sudden, you play USC then you play Ohio State,
you know, and you get beat you know you you
You're like, no, so you wind up say ten and
(24:00):
two because you lost the two tough games, but look
who you played. I've always said that about Notre Dame.
You know, they just you know, so basical they don't wan,
they don't want they don't want the competition. That's that's
what it is. Basically.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, So that that, I mean, you get it. It's like,
why are we playing a tough Big ten schedule and
then also have to play Notre Dame, Who's who's always
going to be fresh? Because they got to schedule probably
two cupcakes before they play USC.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, talking about officiating in the NFL. A couple of
things that happened yesterday, DK Metcalf. We'll get to that.
We'll get to that. I want to talk about the
officiating in the Lions Steelers game. Did you see that,
either one of you the end of the game. Yeah, yeah,
it was What are you talking about? First, the poor
official Carl Cheffers. I think it was when he tried
(24:47):
to explain what happened. I took thirty minutes afterwards to
try to figure out a better way to say it.
I mean, there's an offensive pass interference call, and.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You're talking about, Yeah, the Amaral Saint Brown play that
he pitched for golf and all offensive interference.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Hey, he pushed off, he pushed off, he pushed off.
The comeback, he pushed.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, one hundred percent PI at that point, even though
the Lions score right and they had battled back, they
looked awful and Jared Goff caught fire. They came back.
It appeared to the naked eye they won because they
scored on that. I'm on Ross Saint Brown pass interference.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It was a pick played the game.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, he just wasn't a pick.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He just ran no the flay before and they really
scored when they scored the touchdown, and he that was.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
A pick, right, that was offensive interference as well.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah that was a pick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay. Anyway, so at that point, and everybody's really confused,
But the flag was for offensive pass interference. Why wouldn't
the official have just stood there as everybody waited. I mean,
they must have talked for five minutes, but it was simple.
It was offensive pass interference, so that negates anything. Why
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didn't he say there is no score offensive pass interference
on number fourteen. Time has expired. The game is over.
That's all he had to say. The way he explained it,
I thought, what is on the field? The call was touchdown,
but then there's no touchdown because of this, but by
(26:22):
rule that can't be reviewed. I thought, what the hell
is this guy saying?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, except it wasn't even a touchdown because he wasn't
in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He went in his zone and he caught the ball.
He was out of the end zone the game, right, Jared.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He flipped it the Jared Golf who scored it clearly
got into the end zone. Yea, if he didn't push off.
It would have been a touchdown, but it would have
been a touch because he wasn't down, right, He wasn't
down when he flipped it the Jared Golf and Jared
took it in and scored and caught Pittsburgh off guard.
But clearly, yeah, clearly all he had to say was
(26:59):
offensive passing appearance games over right, because that was the
call correct.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
What was all of this other stuff? I mean, at
first he said the ruling on the field is a touchdown,
and the crowd went crazy. Yeah, but there is no touchdown.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
About You set them up, You set them up. What
do you think about? What do you think about referees
having to go do press conferences after games? I like it, Yeah,
I like it and and answer questions like players do,
coaches do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm one hundred percent in I think they should. Yeah,
they have the pool reporter.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think in the NFL too, But I think you should. Okay,
come on in, you got ten minutes. Go ask him, right,
ask him and the referee and they know who else
goes in there, like if there's a controversy call or no,
just a referee.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Gance answered the guy in chars asked, answer, what about
the guy that called a controversial pass interference.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Call in appearance? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No, just the refereen to answer for it. No, he
speaks for the team. He's paid to speak for the team.
He's in charge. Even if the guy blew it, he
speaks for the team. You don't bring that guy in
because that girl gets spent around in circles.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well you know, well you can see right now that
you cannot.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Even criticize these referees because they find pooking the coup
at twenty five thousand dollars. And I'm gona telling you
the referee and is horrible. It is bad. I mean,
you know, they making some calls that I'm like what
I mean? I mean, look, you can call holding almost
on every place, especially on the offensive line and defensive line.
It's always some holding going now, but they were making
some really really bad calls I mean, And I guess
(28:42):
the thing is is that you cannot don't understand. So
basically you can't criticize him. You can't say anything anything
about it about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
No, you can't, And that don't make sense. You can
critically that coach can't. There's been several coaches that got
fined for that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, Eric pokinga, you know, questioning a call. I get it,
pooking a coola going. These guys are blowing calls so
they can be in their buddies text chain.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
No, that's I don't know. I don't know what he said.
I'm gonna say that much. I don't. I don't know
what he said.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
But you can't even talk about the even guys saying
stuff that they don't agree with the referees.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Fred, you know they made a bad call.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Here, Pookah said, suggested that they were doing it on purpose.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't know. He said
that suggested that they they got it. They got together
afterwards just to show out out, you know, on what
made my call?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You see my call that wouldn't really pass interferens man,
that was I just made that call to get on TV.
That's kind of what he looked at riding. I felt
like that too. I'm like the referees on TV, the
players off. He may not have been wrong, he may
not have been, but you can't say it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'm like, my god, you can't say nothing these days.
I mean, she's what whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Did you see, DK Metcalf? Did you see smack that fan?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And the first thing they said on the broadcast, by
the way, is wait, you know they really couldn't do
anything because the officials didn't see it. Well, of course
they didn't see it. Why are they going to be
watching a guy on the sideline? And and the question
and apparently DK Metcalf does not like to be be
known by his given name. This is the story, and
this guy is calling him by his given name, just
(30:31):
keep saying it over and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
That's what he said. That's what's right.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And then the fan came out said, hey, I'm sorry.
I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
What are you gonna say? I'm wrong? Man? You know
what I didn't. I did call him. I did call
him his name.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Like the NBA, you know, NBA player can point out
a fan in the crowd and say.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I get he gotta go right, and they'll take him out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And they'll take him out of there and and maybe
ban him for a period of time. And we don't
know what was said, but that it was definitely more.
I gotta believe it was more than just what that
I'll call him by his given name, and that's what
set him off to grab his hair or grab him
and then take a swing at him. And that if
(31:22):
DK Metcalf is suspended, which looks like he is, then
there's something has to happen to that fan.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Too, exactly.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I mean, because Fred, I'm telling you, man, these fans
you don't understand. You don't play, you never played. These
fans stay some some crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, hold it right there, Hold it right there.
We'll do this on the other side. I will come back.
Let's hear some of the stuff they've said.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You sure you want to hear that? Oh yeah, come on,
it's the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Welcome back to the Ford, NFL Spotlight running beat Fred
Rogan in the Hall of Fame, Eric Dickerson, let's go, Freddy.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
All right, ck you were going to talk about the
kinds of things that you would hear.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Well, I mean, Fred, I mean some some of the
stuff is so derogatory, some stuff I can't say on air.
I mean, Rodney know, I mean I told you before,
I told you the story before. When I was in Chicago,
we played the Bears on a Monday night football game
and Soldier Field, you could it was it was a
way the stands they had like people could walk down,
(32:34):
you know, closely. They couldn't come down because they had
to got the guys standing there by, you know, by
the field. It was like an opening. They could walk
down down the stairs to the field. It was like
four of them. And this guy was heckling me, you know,
he kept heckling me, and you know, and like you
don't want to say nothing. You know, you don't want
to say anything to these guys, I mean, because you
don't want to get them going. And he kept on
(32:54):
and then he couldn't get my attention. Then he then
he then he caught my mother's name out. He said, yeah,
and f Vowler Dickerson. Oh no, dog, that don't work
for me. I'm now I'm going into the stands because
I was gonna really I was going with his ass.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
They stopped some when the players jumped and they say, man,
they got to get him out of here, you know,
and then I think they make the guy leave. But
just it's just some of the stuff, like I know
you're a fan, but you can't be doing that kind
of stuff. You can't be saying stuff you can't you
can't you can't. You can't cheer when a player gets hurt.
I mean, I'm like, you know, like I see some
of these people they make these means and players get
hurt like this funny. I mean, how about if that
(33:27):
was your son, that was your daughter, that was that
was not down on the field, on the court, how
would you feel then? I mean it's I mean, some
of the stuff is it's it's disturbing and it's frustrating.
But like you say, you try to keep your cool
as much as you can. I mean, and like I said,
I've had some some real derogatory things said towards me
and other players, especially in myself, you know, you know,
(33:51):
whether the N word and all kinds of stuff, and
they were like, I mean, what can you do for it?
I mean, back in those days, equally couldn't do nothing.
I mean they wouldn't. You wouldn't you didn't want to
go in the stand if you want too, But she
didn't want to. I think I think I told you
this story. One of the funniest ones to me was
me and a guy played the Jets, and me and
him was going back and forth. I'm I'm going me
and him literally going back and forth and he says,
(34:12):
are you old fumbling bumb I'm like, few, man.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Man, what a couple of playlet would happened fumbled? I'm like,
oh my god, I gotta go back to this bitch
with this clown. He's like, see, you ain't nothing but
old bomb fumbling.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The I go lie, I said, are you are?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You got me with?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
You got me with that? And at the end I
ended up winning the game. We had a touchdown like
a thirty oeth that ended up winning the game. So
I come to the sideline. Now I'm on him and
I'm I'm I'm talking about him. I said, want you?
I said, wyn't you sit your ass down? I said,
you probably got a little old bitty wiena United say Wiena.
And this girl was sitting next to him and she
busted out laughing. I said, oh, so you do got
(34:53):
a little one, huh man, And everybody in that section
was laughing. That's how I shut him up. He sit down,
you know, I mean, he didn't say nothing else. I'm like,
so I was riding him, but I mean, but you
don't want to have to do that, man, I mean,
that's that's just this unsportsman like on our behalf and
on on the fan dem come there enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
If you pull for your team, pull for your team.
And there's seats that are right behind the bench that
you can hear everything, and you know as much as
people that will block it out, block it out, block
it out. And through Eric's point, you you hear stuff.
You can't turn your ears off, and you hear it.
And then you know when somebody talks about your family,
your mother, like he said, you know that's that's just
(35:35):
say that's that he crossed the line. Then you cross
the line and and it shouldn't be it shouldn't be
had And like I said, in the NBA, somebody crosses
that line, player has the right to get that that
person up out of the out of the arena. It's
a little bit harder in the NFL, but it's still
crossing the line. Always felt that it was.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It was.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
There was always people too in the in the family sections,
the family sections. Knowing that your family's there, your kids
are there, whether it's your brother, your your husband, and
your dad playing out there, and there are people in
that section that are brutal, brutal about you know what's
going on on the field, Rodney, didn't you say that.
(36:19):
Even Holly had to deal with that and it was
her own family members.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That was.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Some ignorant family members. Everybody everybody has one friend. I
got them tickets to the game and they coming out,
you know, yelling at me and a physical altercation in
the stadium in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah. But but yeah, she but she would hear it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
She would hear it in the stands, and there was
points and you've you we've talked about it. We've heard
this from different people where guys would like tell their
family don't go to the games. You cannot go the
games because just the nastiness of the fan base and
the fans that around you, and that would come from
(37:08):
home fans a lot of times that they wouldn't let
their wives or their kids go to the games because
they either made a bad play the game before this,
you know, or had a big time bad blundered the
season before and the fans would just recognize them in
the stands and go at them. And you know, we've
heard of kids going to school and getting bullied at
(37:30):
school because their dad didn't play well. It's it's it's
very difficult and again to Eric's point, You know, you
shouldn't allow the fans shouldn't be allowed to disrespect another
human being. I don't care if you're a winner, a
uniform or not. And the don't care if you're paying
a salary. Oh, I bought my ticket. There's a line
that you cannot cross and you should not cross.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And that's exactly what you said, Rodney right there, that's
exactly what you hear him say. I bought my tea.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I pay for this ticket. So you pay for this ticket,
so you figure you can do what you want to do.
You pay this ticket, you can get your ass whooped too.
You know, your ass whooping up to.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
See you like that?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
For an NFL spotlight is presented by Ford. All Right, Uh,
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