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January 24, 2025 46 mins
As we broadcast live from Spotlight 29 with Eric Dickerson and Christian Okoye, we talk about Eric's haunted house and Pete Carroll being hired by the Raiders. 
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And hello everybody from Spotlight twenty nine, Casino and Coachella.
Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete, Eric Dickerson, Christian Nakoye, thank all
of you, all of you for coming out here today.
We are going to have the best time. We have
prizes to give away. And if you're listening and you

(00:25):
want to come on down here, jump in your car
and get here. We are giving away Opening week tickets
for the Dodgers. We are giving away a Westinghouse TV
fifty five inches. That's two hundred dollars we are giving away.
Signed Eric Dickerson, Jersey assigned Christian A.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Koye, Jersey.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We want everybody down here. We are feeding you. We've
got great food. We have drinks for you. As I
mentioned to the group here before we started, we always
know that we are so damn funny when you're drunk
that we invite you to buy a car drinks at
the bar, but you have to pay for those on
your own. We got into trouble some time ago. I

(01:06):
don't want to belabor it, but I was buying people
drinks because I wanted them to think we were really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Then I found out we could be sued. Eric are
you buying that?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Nobody drink?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Anyway, for those of you here, thank your bar friend.
How did you buy people drink?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I bought No, you know, I bought people drinks and
you got me in more trouble. Anyway, Thanks, and uh
it's I'm glad you found the room because for the
second year in a row. If you look at the signage, uh,
it's the Eric Dickerson Show, they don't even mention us,
and they act like Christian hasn't been born. Christian isn't

(01:48):
even an mbo.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
We saw we saw pictures downstairs of Christian and myself,
So stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Wait a minute, there's pictures of you tube. Yes, you
can stop.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So the only two people that aren't in the pictures
or Rodney and me, Well.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I was a little one. Are you little picture? I'm
over there nine Back then, I wish I didn't own
this place.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Also, as we get started, there is one bone to pick,
and I think we need to get it on the
table right off the top.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Er.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, what is normally is tradition, Eric has somebody else
buy us dinner the night before we do the show.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here there we go.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And last year Eric was going to take us to dinner,
and he did, which was picked up by the chairman
of Spotlight twenty nine casino. So Eric really didn't pay
and George Nicholas will be on the show later. Was
it part of a bet or it was part of
a bet. Eric lost he should have paid for dinner.
He did not pay. You know that you didn't pay anybody.

(02:52):
So then last night Eric said, of course we're going
to have dinner again. I'm thinking, all right now, this
is going to be great, Christian. You know, I'm looking
forward to seeing you and having a bite to eat.
And it had to be five o'clock Rodney where you
texted and you said, sorry, fellas, I'm getting a late start,
I'm gonna miss dinner. And I texted on the chat

(03:13):
I said, I don't even know if we're having dinner.
No one's reached out to me. Ten minutes later, Eric
like at five thirty, were supposed to eat. At seven o'clock.
Eric text and go I had to go to the
orthopedic doctor.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
We're not having dinner.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I didn't say what I'd have. I said, you can
go to dinner if you were reread your tech. I said,
if you could go to dinner, I'll give you the
address and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
You told me where it was. Yeah, I told you
where it was, and I couldn't go. I had to come.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Man. I was in so much pain yesterday with my
hip in my back. I had to go to find
an orthopedic doctor right away. I mean, I have never
felt that much pain. And so that's why I couldn't
show up. So I tried to still have dinner for you.
Did you did something happen?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Man? You know what I got to.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Say this is this is my own problemduced to myself.
You know, I played a lot of golf and I
have a really bad back, and I went to Christian
went too, went to a coach. We can got stem cells.
But you know, I need to still do stuff like
stretching and all that kind of stuff and ice it
and you know, do therapy.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But me don't do that. You go, I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't do And oh my gosh, yesterday, like the
day before, it started in the morning, and then the
evening got worse, and then it got by the night.
I couldn't even walk. I'm walking on one like one leg,
and so I couldn't even sleep that night. So I tried,
I had to try to find orthopedic doctor. And so, okay,
I was gonna get out here, like at won, I
go to the doc, got I got in, got up

(04:32):
and got an appointment. I'm gonna go get the m
ri I at twelve and I wantay, I say i'd
be on the road. Ordered me some some medicine, some
some steroids to take the information.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What happened They turned.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
The power off about why the mri I places so
I could get them, and I couldn't get my medicine either.
Turn they turned the power off on last Vergen's right
while lived all the power was off. Yeah, because it
was windy. It was wendy, so they turned the power off.
So that's why. That's why I couldn't get out here.
So that was sorry, Fred, but we didn't need so.
And he gave you the address, Thank you, thank you.

(05:03):
I gave him the address as I said, go ahead
and go, No I did. I'll just come next to you.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I was asking about you though, Christian went, if I
had known you were there, I would have gone.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But I didn't know you were going to be there.
And I said, where is Fred? They said East, He's
on his way.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, if I have known, because I said to Eric,
if you two aren't going, I'm just not gonna go
show up. But if i'd known you were there, I
would have I told you could still go. Friend, Yeah,
but I'm not gonna walk in here.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Why didn't you call me? How about that? You know
you could have called? Yeah, Fred, you text me?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I said, well, I'm not gonna go. And I said, well,
here's the address you can go. You the commis, Hey, Eric,
who's gonna be there?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
To say? Well, Christian gonna be that for sure? You know, Christian?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Can I tell you something? And where it was last night?
It was two minutes from where I live.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh gosh, well that's on you. That makes a real
good meal too. It was good. It was good.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Matter of fact, I can say, you know, I'll take
it that there. I got him there, I came down that.
I left La at seven five.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
You got there at nine twenty. I got here at
nine forty five. Oh you didn't you go get the
m R. I down here?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I got the m R down here last night at
ten o'clock. I got ten o'clock last night. You went
to a doctor here at ten o'clock last night. George
set it up, George Nicholas. Thank you, George. George set
it up for me last night.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
For the people that are at the show today that
live here. Did you hear what he said? He went
to a doctor here. We all know you shouldn't do that,
right Why wait, wait, wait, doctor, you found a place
at ten o'clock at.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, no, no, George, George Nicholas, he's a friend, is
a doctor, so he said, so he say, he set
the m R for me.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, why why don't you go down here? What's wrong
with the doctors for the people that live here? Am
I right?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I mean, you go to the doctor, but your best
shot is to get in the car and drive right
back to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
As quickly as possible. I don't know. I am not exaggerating.
Sin is that bad with the doctor? That is well?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
First, there earn't a lot of them, which the doctors that.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
They all retired. I mean, yeah, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Them retired, some were never replaced. There aren't a lot
of them. And I would say that with all due respect.
I know somebody that went to have a pacemaker put
in their chest and it's a bit of a problem.
They put it in the wrong side. Oh oh gosh,
what kind of doctor is that? That was a bit
of an issue. Retired, right, So you're lucky you got

(07:29):
your m r out here because ve Okay about veterinarians,
if you live out here, you're also of the opinion
that it's tough to find a vet to take care
of your pets. And the truth is, if you have

(07:50):
an emergency, Okay, if you have an emergency with one
of your animals and it's past ten o'clock at night,
you are so ol And do you know what you
have to do because I have made this trip twice
with our dog running. You have to drive eighty miles
an hour to Redlands to the emergency animal hospital.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You have to drive to Redlands And in March they're
going to put a twenty four hour bed in out here,
which will be great, and that'll be in Palm Desert.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Wow. Yeah, I know that. I know that. Man like babies,
they say they'll go to a doctor in Vegas. Yeah,
you don't want to go doctor in Vegas. Yeah. He
just came from the clube. Yeah, he just ca Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Anyway, it's great to have everybody here and we are
thrilled to be here, and if you are on the ten,
come on out. It's a straight shot, it really is.
And the weather's great today. It's gonna be a terrific weekend,
so please come out and let's get to the big
sports story of the day, the Raiders. And I met
somebody wearing a raidered sweatshirt. There she is, huh uh huh.

(08:52):
They got a new coach.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes they do, Yes they do, Yes, yes they do.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
He's seventy three years old. He's Pete Carroll. Why do
you leave with the seventy three years old? You know
why I led with seventy three because people believe that
at a certain point in time you're not quite as vital,
you don't have the capacity to function as you did
when you were much younger. And I think Pete Carroll

(09:16):
dispels that myth, that it doesn't matter how old you are.
It's how you conduct yourself, how you live your life,
how you approach things. And for Pete Carroll to get
I think the Raider job is absolutely incredible, Ronnie. I
think it's a great fit. It's a great fit.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
And seventy three a Pete Carroll at seventy three is
like anybody else at fifty three, he's got that kind
of energy and he really does. One of the things
that as we can see from Afar, and it's probably
the same thing within the building, is that the culture
at the Raiders is not where it needs to be
in order for them to be successful. And the one

(09:53):
thing that Pete Carroll will bring to the Raider organization
is some sort of stability, some sort of order, and
he's gonna rebuild that culture that everyone talks about Raider
Nation and being a Raider and all that, Well, that's
kind of gone away over the last you know, several years.
I mean, they tried to do it with John Gruden

(10:15):
when they brought him back, and then we all know
how that turned out. But I think it's a perfect
fit for for the Raiders and where they're trying to
go now and rebuild that franchise. They needed somebody that had,
you know, a little bit of the history of success
that that the players would buy into, and not just
the players, but everybody in that building would buy into.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I think about Pete Carroll.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think of the Super Bowl they played the Patriots
in and and how how, how how they blew it,
and how basically the team lost faith in Pete Carroll.
I mean, and you got to understand, these guys are
young now. You know, think like what was that Wellever
there ten years ago? That Super Bowl Tennis twelve years ago?

(11:00):
And these are younger players. So you know, some know
who Pete Carroll is.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Some don't.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I think Pete, I think I'm like like a lot
of older coach at the coaches, I think that time
has passed. I think you have to have a younger
coach now to really identify with the younger players. But
you have to have a coach that they respect. That's
the most important thing is respect. You don't have to
like me, but you're gonna respect me. I mean, I
thought DM would have been a good fit for the Raiders,
but you know, I didn't really think you get that job.
But you know, like I said, Pete Carroll has done

(11:27):
it in a big way for many years. But when
you're seventy three years old, I mean, Rodney, you know,
seventy three, man, you can't do with you. You don't have
a Stamley you used to have. I mean you can
say that it sounds good, it looks good on paper,
but I just don't think it's gonna work. It was
the same deal in Dallas. What's the coach name? They
just fired when they hired them. Like, that's a bad hire.

(11:50):
I say, that's a bad hire. And you talk to
people that is in around the Cab organization and they're like, man,
they're saying, this is not a good hire. It's not
gonna work out.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
And then it didn't.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I hope I'm wrong for the same reason, you know,
hoping that works out for the Raider, because I do
like the Raiders. I played for the Raiders one year,
but I just don't think it's the right fit. I mean,
I know the guy to my left, I know he
don't care Christ Okay, well tell me how you feel
about you know.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
But you know, stopping from his age, how old is Bellychick?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
About the same age?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Seventy two seventy two, so about the same age. And
Bellychick's too one to coach. He didn't get a joke
in the NFL, but he got a joke in college.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well he'll be perfect. That's the kind of guy you
want with college. Oh yeah, going into the home and recruiting.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, he's dating the twenty four year old girl. So
he have a lot in comment to Yeah, there you go,
he's smart. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
When you guys would go on your college recruiting trips
back in the day and somebody would show you around campus,
they would have the young co edge do it. So
Bill now just has a young co ed recruiting.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
There you go. Yeah to the Carol.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I think he's will do well in Vegas too. He's
doing well. He did well in the USC, and then
he went to Seattle and.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
He's very well over there. How long ago was that,
you know, it's it's very long ago.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
But but he's still very very energetic and they lost coaching,
you know, so and so he's.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Gonna bring some energy to that building, will he really will?
I think?

Speaker 5 (13:20):
And and yeah, the age thing, and I don't think
it's going to be, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
A long term thing where he's there for ten years.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
But I think for for them to try to switch
and change what's been happening over there for the last
ten years, you.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Need somebody that has done it before, I think. And
I get it.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I get what you're saying that, you know, relating to
the players at that age. I think Pete is different.
I think Pete.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, Pete plays hip hop on it at practice
in his building. He can relate to a lot of
guys yea.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
And I think he's gonna get a lot of support
because I think his staff that he puts together is
going to be able to help bridge that gap.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I mean the elder and the younger kids. I don't
see p panel hip hop. I saw that. I see
somebody else slaying him hip hop. Pete will crip walk
down to the football field right right, break a bone. Hey.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I want to acknowledge that we are one of the
firefighters from el Monty here and thank you for everything
our firefighters have done.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh you right, yeah, stand up, yeah, fire ahead. Thank
you for.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Everything our firefighters have done during this horrific time in
Los Angeles. But he told me something Eric, and something
you talked about on the show struck him and it
meant a lot to him as you shared the story
of how your house is faunted, yet you refuse to move,
and if you don't know, Eric's house is truly haunted.

(14:47):
Ghosts exist and Eric has seen them. He was explaining
to me that the firehouse in El Monty is also okay,
and he said that that is the connection that he
has with you, that he's in a haunted building as well.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Hey, I'm telling you I always say this when I
when I when I bought, when I was looking for
a house in l A, I asked God to give
me I want a house on the heel of overlooking mountain.
And I wanted to be hunted. I know that sounds crazy.
You wanted it to be. I wanted to, like a
little like I like that stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
What is wrong with you? But I've always liked scary stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And you know when I got I say, they said,
God gave me exactly what I asked for, exactly what
I asked for that and then thank you man.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm complaining, complaining. I'm not complaining. You're telling stories and
ship But they asked him, I'm not going ahead, Christian.
You can't hurt.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
No, no, no no, We said, listen, if you want
to curge, fine, because here's what we said yesterday.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And yeah, yes we did.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Everybody here is going to hear everything. But Ronnie's got
his finger on the dump button back. Okay, so if
you say something you shouldn't, you guys will hear it
here but the listeners won't hear it, and then we
won't get fined by.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
The perfect Yeah, okay, that doesn't give you, you know, no, no,
no a prior on us.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Now everyone tell us stories about his house. You know,
I spent tonight over there. I didn't see anything, and
then I hear these stories out. Sometimes I thought he
was making up, making it up that.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Look look, look that's not on, like they're not on
a rotation, like, oh, Christian were gonna scare him the name.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Don't it works like that? It works like that, I
won't see it. Look more.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Afton Miller said the same thing. Anthony stayed there. He said, man,
nothing ever happened to me, but my best friend and
stayed there. Got scared. My boy, Roy Green, you know,
played for the car. He stayed there and got scared.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
He's like, man, what the hell is going on in
this house? Did got scared? Say? Are you sure? You
another one scaring people? I'm not even home.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Sometimes matter of fact, Richie did say he came out there.
He came out the hallway. He said, I look down
that hallway, and some said don't go down that hallway.
At night, we turned them lights on, said I said, Oh,
he said, ain't going down that hole. Don't you keep
the lights on at the house at night? Sometimes I
have to sleep with a light on. I can't have to,
but I mean sometimes it's not me. I like it dark,
but I don't. I don't sleep no dark moon. I

(17:19):
learned my lesson with that.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
To me, all right, Eric, For those people that haven't
heard one or two of the stories, because I'm sure
there are those thinking this can't be true, can you
just share, yes, please, because every time we do that,
then you say they come and visit you again. So
could you please share one or two stories about when
you thought your house was harded?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Okay, I'll give you one story. One of my good
friends I played with Fred Young, and he's from He
played at CFF and you know Fred, And they traded
him to Indianapolis. And I bought the house in eighty
six and I went to Indy in eighty seven. So
Fred came to visit me to stay with me an
off season. And I was gonna leave one night and
I was gonna stay with the girl I was dating.

(17:57):
I said Fred, I said, Man, let me tell you something.
I said, I thank this house. Maybe a little hunted.
He said, I said this, I said, gonna walk on
under the light side he said. He said, really said okay,
So I come back to the next and make sure
the story is short. I come back the next morning,
said man counted man, I'm telling you, say what happened.
He said, okay. Because his kids were he lived in
last Cruiss, New Mexico, so it's kids in law schools

(18:19):
then were in La So he want to get up
college kids when they went to school that morning.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
So it was dark.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was still dark as it was five o'clock in
the morning, so I said, I get up. I said,
it's off the phone down in the office. He so,
I say, go down to the office, you know, because
it's the bedroom. You know, there's money, my bedrooms, office,
the closest phones. I didn't have a lot of furniture
at that point. So he said, I get on there.
I go down the stairs. I got my hand on
the rail. I can't really see because I have my
light in my room. I don't know where to go.
I tell him to go to the office. So he
gets down. He say, get down to the bobler's stairs

(18:44):
because it has a big knob, a big wooden knob,
so I know him at the bottle. He says, I'll
go to make that right turn. He said, come in here,
get me on right. Somebody hooks me like this? What
cooks his arm like that?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Like? What doop to do? What? What's that song?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Who my lady is? I said, hooked him? He said
it pulled me tight? He said, had me tight? He said, man,
the struggle was on, He said, Man, this struggle on. Brother,
he said, man, he said when it finally, when they
let me go, he said, I crawled back up the stairs,
ran in. There was another guy that he said, I man,
get up. If somebody broke in the house, he said,
I go on down and wake the other guy. Somebody's

(19:17):
in the house. He said, what, here's my house? He
turned all the lights on.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Man, I told you what Fred Fred might be telling
the stories.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Story like I got a couple of guys gun scared
like that. Roy having the roy r said he said
he heard his bag. He said, I'm laying in the bed.
I hear somebody going through my bag. He said, what
the hell is? He said, you used to be moving
the clothes. He said, I turned the light on. He
said the bag is closed. He said, okay, So I
turned the light back off. All of a sudden, I
hear it again, and then I feel somebody floating over me. Said,

(19:48):
I started waving my hands over my head, over my face.
As I get up, I said, I go stand in
the bathroom in the mirror and say, okay, I'm tripping.
So that's just a few stories, that's just a it's
probably this is a Netflix documentary. I did what I
did a thing, not Net. I did this thing where
they go to the They came.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
To my house.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Uh they told me the if you want to wait
and I can tell you later. But they came to
my house. They have this spiritual person came and they
kind of told me like an intervention.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I came to the house. GI mean to give me
the whole, the whole history of what's going on out there.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Wow, didn't you say there was a point in time
where one of them talked to you?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh yeah that that that that got me pretty good?
That right? What did they say? Uh?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Well, they didn't talk to me. But this is so
I was having an insomnia. I couldn't sleep, and so
I come in, I guess, and I was still going
out the clubs and stuff kind of that was in
my like late thirties, late thirties. I go to the club,
come in. I'm like, man, I gotta try to get
some sleep. I couldn't sleep, so I finally I went
to sleep, like five in the morning, okay. And as
I go to sleep, all of a sudden, I hear

(20:51):
my bedroom doors open. I look up that show. I'm
not sure if I'm sleep, if I'm away through this
whole ordeal. So it's the bedroom doors open, I see
this dark shadow. I'm in the room. I'm like, oh,
hell no, I cover my head up now once again,
shure I'm sleep, I'm away. I cover my head up
like a kid, and it gets close to the bed.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And goes.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
From that boy, from that boy right there. We turned
the breakers off, mad Fred Broy, you're telling me I
was scared. I ain't gonna lie. My holl was being
so I tried to turn the light or click click
the light. When I come on, it said it again.
I jumped out of the bed and ran to my bathroom.
My bathroom has like a landing, but you gotta go down.
So it stopped right there. It just stopped, and it
said it again, we've turned the breakers off. So boom,

(21:37):
I feel like I was gonna go out the bathroom
and look like this one on forever, like once again.
That's if I'm sleep from away. So finally I look
back in the sunlight. I kept saying, Lord, please let
the daylight come now was my only prayer, Lord, please
let to day like come.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
That was my prayer.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Finally I go back. I look in the room. I
don't see I jump in the bed, cover my head up.
All right, Boom, I wake up.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'm like I said, I'm like, damn, did that happened?

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Like wow?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
So I got up and went to take a shower.
As they went to turn the lights on in the
in the in the in the bathroom, they won't come on.
I'm like, you gotta be kidding. They go turn the
lights on by next to the bed and it won't
come on. So I have a flashlight under my bed.
So my closet is another closet. As I opened the closet,
it's a breakup box. I look in the breakup box.
All the breakers have been turned off. Now you tell
me you would tell me somebody somebody explained that to me.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I ain't make im that I didn't imagine it. Thank
you for you have no answer.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
And the best serious thing and the best part of
the story is Eric, because what you would tell someone
who if they believed they lived in a haunted house,
what would you say, Maybe it's a good idea that
you moved.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, I like it, but it said I like it.
I like it, I like it. Maybe you know you
might want to I've.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Had so many scared in that house. Someone who'd been
scared of that house. My mother was scared, and everybody
had been scared. I mean, I mean numerous people have
been scared. Matter of fact, one of your What's My Boy?
The s c track O, the seat track of whence
Quincy and see wat's got scared that one time? I mean,
I've had I don't I don't even tell them.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't tell you. I got out of the house.
What happened with the intervention when the people came and
went through the house.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
So they came in and it was a lady where
they had the whole crew, had the whole crew, and
she walked through the house for a while, and I didn't,
you know, I just just didn't say nothing. That let
me walk through. So she came back and she for
like an hour, I mean a hour and a half.
She walked through the house. Was normal or was she
like the little guy? She like normal, She's like a

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normal lady. She comes in and then, uh this we
started records.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You tell them.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I'm gonna tell you what I see. She said. First
of all, it's across the street over here. She say,
it's a big piece of property. And it was just
let ranch. She say, over there. She said, I'm not
saying they did human sacrifices, but they did sacrifices. Something said,
did sacrifices. She said, I'm gonna tell you something. He said,
you understand the spirit. It wants something nice too. She say,

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So it saw this house, and it came over here.
The spirits kind of came over, came up this way.
I'm like, really, she said. She showed me to win
some of the windows it would like come through, and
it was one in particular, one window.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Because I won't forget.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Someone saw my my, my, my gardener. He saw a
guy stand in the window. We were out of time,
he said, Eric. He said it was a guy standing
in the window. All I s yeah, he had he
had a big Abraham Lincoln hat On. I'm like, wow,
I mean, I have seen it before. People have seen
them before. I've never seen it, but people have seen
him before. So anyway, so she tells me, she says
that the spirits are in your house.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
She said.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Some are good, she says, and some bad ones try
to come in too, but the good ones try to
keep the bad ones out. I mean, she explained it everything.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
She said that like my son in his room.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
She said, it's a it's an older lady that comes
that keeps the spirit away from him, she says, And
she described he described She described my great aunt to
a tea. She described it. She says, she's a she's
a little shorter, she's got like silverish hair, silver hair,
she say, and she's.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Got she's got a real strong demeanor. That was by
all the Pickerson.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
So the one that turned off your breakers, that's considered
the good one or the battle.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
That got had to be the ball. And he said,
A man, I'm not looking. I was. I was.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
And then at that point that's when I stopped beating
dark rooms. I started leaping a little light on. And
from that point on anyway, I have a light on
the room from that being on.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Although you know, another answer would be you could sleep
in the dark if you just moved.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
How about how about no, how about how about they
may follow me? How about they may follow me to
house that's his home.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I love my house at home. I love that home.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I loved my house. I wish to get rid of the
damn fires. I love my house. And thank you for
this shirt. I mean I really appreciate it. I mean
the fireman, no, I have done a great job. Seriously,
I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, you can't. You can't.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
You can't give them enough credits. I mean, when you
when you I got im sure. I sent you guys
a video. When you look at the when you see
a fire, like from my house, you can see it
coming over here. You see the especially at night, the flames,
and you can see the trucks up there. I'm like, man,
it takes a different kind of person to go toward
the fire. I mean, it's just that that is that
is some true brave because you know what happen if

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you're getting that fire. Yeah it's done. Yeah, but I'm
telling you to me, you gonna set these fires. You
know what need to do today? You know what to
do to ass.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Drop the ass in the middle of that file you
want to play with file clock kills And now you
got all the fire you want to play with with
all the file you want. All right, we'll at Chella Valley. Uh.

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around naked and palm springs.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Fred Rodney Decent and Christian n On Saturday on these forms.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
And we continue on from Spotlight twenty nine Casino in Coachella.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Up here, Johnny unless Oh.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
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Speaker 7 (27:46):
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Speaker 2 (27:57):
We are loving this crowd. Everybody eat, everybody got food.
I can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
How heartening it is to see so many people from
the Coachella Valley here today. So thank you for coming out,
and thank you for watching the TV show. This is great,
it really is, and it's it's greatly appreciated. So for
our Los Angeles folks that don't really know the Coachella Valley,
we thought it would be a good idea.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Give me no Steve, relax, Steve, a bit of running things, Steve,
I'm sorry, just relax.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Anyway, we thought it'd be a good idea to let
people know some of the things about the Coachell of
Alley they may not know.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
And if you watch the TV show, you.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Know this is NBC Palm Springs historian and community guide
Steve Sunraw.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
All right, Now, next time, don't come up here and
act like you're running the whole show and asking for
water and food. Just put on the headset and get
ready to go. Okay, can you do that please?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
You got from this point on, I am on my
best behavior.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
So here are some stories about our area. If you
live here, and if you don't, you should know about
it that you might find interesting. And number one, when
I came, I found it fascinating that there's a place
in Palm Springs where you can actually walk around naked.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Well yeah, well yeah, yeah, Fred, I'm not telling you
why are We're not shocked that you know this, And
that's probably the first thing, the first thing that draw draw.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, I can walk around making I know all right, Steve,
So why don't you explain that to freak.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
Okay, if you happen to be coming down Palm Canyon
Drive in Palm Springs and you go past Vista Chino,
there is from the east side to the west side
of the street of a bridge, a pedestrian bridge that
crosses from one residence to the other. That is a
newdist resort. And before people would when they would go

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from one side of the resort to the other, they
would have to get dressed across the street and dish
Row again. So they built this bridge. So basically when
you're driving through that, there's naked people crossing over you.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
All right, shaw Hans who's been to that nudist resort? Whoever?

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Said?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Is next it off?

Speaker 8 (30:29):
But yeah, it's called the it's called the Lee R.
Baxendal Memorial Bridge. It was named for leader of a
naturalist movement who would encourage the newdiest lifestyle. My most
memorable moment was the ribbon cutting. At the time the
mayor at the time, Will Kleindis said I give you

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the newdy Bridge. And it hasn't been referred to that since,
but it has been called the Naked Bridge and the
Bride of Thighs.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, so we know the Bridge of Figes.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Go Free. Was the Edge groove, all right? Was the
edge group? So now there are other things. Group? What's
the age group? The age group?

Speaker 8 (31:17):
I couldn't tell you exist anyone that's well, I guess
anyone who wants to be naked at any age. But
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Why are you asking? You know?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
This is this is that we're tired committed you know
what I'm saying. So are you seeing some ninety old
naked people walking.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Around or a good view it. I went to the
new beach one time. You went to a new beach
in Florida. I didn't take my clothes off, but I mean,
what did you see at the nude beach?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Man?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I saw something. This was a young when I was young.
I was in twenty one in Florida, and they tell
us about the nude beach. I'm like, can't be. So
we walked down this trail and I'm look out to
the beach. Sure it was, and man, it was some girls.
I'm like, we stopped, like we're standing so hard to
girls put the clothes on, like.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Walking around with Yeah, but it was. It was. It
was interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't they say, if you go to the nude beach,
there are people that you don't want to see at
the new beach.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
A most definitely I saw some of those two Yeah
you right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
But you have to have confidence to be able to
do that. You know, it's not about what how you look,
It's about how you feel, right, It's about mentally how
you view yourself. Didn't Jack Nicholson at one point in
his life he was so uncomfortable with the way he
looked that.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
He simply took.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Off all his clothes and walked around his house naked
all day long. And if you went to his house
and knocked on the door, he'd answered the door naked,
just so he would become comfortable with the way he looked.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, Steve, go ahead, it's not that conversation.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, now, Steve. Also, there's there's some crime and things
here in the area, right, Oh yeah, go ahead, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well.

Speaker 8 (33:04):
Murder House number one built in nineteen sixty one. It's
in the Lost Palmis area. Many notable people have lived there.
It's called the George Nader House. George Nader was an actor.
His life partner was named Mark Miller, who was the
personal secretary of Rock Hudson. Rock Hudson considered to be

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them to be his extended family. He left them a
lot of money when he passed away. Anyways, George Nader
lived there happily, no problem. But before that, in the
mid seventies, it was owned by Greg Sherwood. She was
a former pin up model. She was the widow of
Horace Dodge, the heir to the Dodge Motor's fortune. Basically,

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she lived there after he died and spent all of
his money and as well as her child's inheritance. Again,
no problems other than that. No one died, not until
nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Will got killed.

Speaker 8 (34:04):
What we do Sophia and Ed friendly they are the victims.
He was a realtor and his wife. One day the
pool man came by. It was this is October thirteenth,
nineteen seventy eight. Kind of glanced in the window, saw
a body lying in the pool of blood. A woman
in the kitchen just drenched in blood. That was the maid.
Her name was Francis Williams. When the police came in,

(34:26):
they found Sophia sprawled in the hallway two shots to
the back of the head. Her husband Ed sprawled across
his easy chair in his study. Never caught who did it.
There was an investigation. Her son was a suspect because

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Sophia's children were coming into a lot of money on
her late once her first husband died. He was on
his deskbed, so he was an immediate suspect. He had
an associate name Andre's Christian Schen, who had fled to Deadmark.
They would have never found him, but he robbed a
bacon Copenhagen, which put him on Palm Springs police radar.

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They flew out, they made a field trip to interview him.
He said he was only in Palm Springs to date
the daughter of a famous actress, a famous actor. They
interviewed the famous actor. Anyone who appreciated irony may like this.

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That actor was Robert Stack, host of TV's Unsolved Mysteries.
And if you think, if you think he was able
to help, his show isn't called Solved Mysteries.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
They okay, so.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Wait the guy his daughter.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Did Robert Stack's daughter get killed?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
No, No, they were.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Just that was really the only celebrity connection, how vague
it might be. So what happened to you, What happened
was evidence was circumstantial. Witnesses had gone all over the globe,
and the case is still open to this day.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
All right, listen, Freddy, listen. When I called you this
morning and I said, I wanted you to come on
tell some salacious stories that people in LA would go,
oh my god wow about the Coachella Valley. And I
told you to tell the story about the naked people

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on the bridge.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
What you do?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And then you said you had a story about a
murder house. But that kind of went all over the place.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Steve.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Yeah, well, I just kind of gave you a history
of the house.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
The house still there.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
The house is still there.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
You could see. It's about that house.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
Somebody of my own currently someone does, I believe, don't
know who that is.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, do you have any other stories?

Speaker 8 (37:07):
Al Adamson, director from the sixties, made a lot of
horror movies, came out here to make a movie called
Satan Sadist, a biker movie. Biker movies, slow Budge of
biker movies were kind of big at the time.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
What happened to him?

Speaker 8 (37:21):
He disappeared in ninety five. There was an investigation. His
body was found buried underneath his house. Basically, he had
a jacuzzi, which he loved inside his house, always bragged
about it. For whatever reason, an independent contractor he hired

(37:44):
to do work for him basically killed him, dug up
the whole jacuzzi, put the body under there, and retile
put new concrete and tile over that.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
So how did they find his body?

Speaker 8 (38:03):
They found his body just due to the investigation and
the fact that it didn't really make any sense for
the jacuzzi to be gone when he bragged about it
all the time and how much he loved it. It's like,
why would he do that, because because basically Fred Fulford
that was the independent contractor's name.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
He was.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
Basically telling people this is what this is what he wanted.
And he's out of town.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
All right.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
So now you've heard some stories about the Coachella alec Oh,
I just can't wait to move out here.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm gonna go stay at my house and move out here.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Well, you won't be haunted, but there's a good chance
you'll be.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
All right, Steve, that was good. Okay, that was really good.
Let's tear it for Steve.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Everybody, thank you very much, thank you.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
That was rivity.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That was good. We learned a little bit today, didn't we.

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of you that live here, Steve will be on tonight
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Speaker 9 (39:29):
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six tonight. Okay, when we come back. How about this
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Speaker 7 (40:05):
Rodney Peake, Fred Rogan, Eric Dickerson, Christian Nakoye. And before
we go too far, as we're thanking all of our
wonderful firemen and all the people in first responders, I
also want to acknowledge one of our good friends who's
a fireman, mister Brad Booth, who played at USC and
also the Philadelphia Eagles, retired firefighter Brad Booth.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Brad Brad can't put out no fire man. Brad ain't
no fire bread. I went today fire station that ain't
no fire stations. They had different country club. What does
the country club? Yeah, thank you, lax.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I want to mention that I just talked to Glenn
from India and his wife and they wanted to be
to point out that the Lakinga Resort is also haunted.
See uh uh they wanted to They wanted me to
report that the Lakina Resort is also haunted. And they
gave tours a parent leave you there some time ago.
I just stayed there about a month ago. I said
a couple of times. I've always hit that place place.

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I said, this place kind of spooky looking. I never
never had no experience. I'm like, this place kind of spooky.
It's nice, but it's spoky.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well there you go. Now, did you live in your
house and your house is haunted? When you go places?
Can you feel it? Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Since it most definitely matter of fact. When I went
to I went to Canon and we stayed at the Glenmore. Okay,
now check it out and go to glen Moore. When
I first went in there, they got these they got
these big ass you know, like to like the knights,
the statues, the Knight, the knights. I'm like, oh, this
is creepy. So I get there. I'm laying in the bed.
First time I stayed there. I get there the morn

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I take a read. I get there in the morning,
I'm laying the bed. The sun is up, but my
curtain is doing this in no arizone. It's flapping back
and forth. I get out the bed and it stops.
I'm like, okay, something going on here. So finally I
go down. I asked the lady, I'm going to play.
God said, let me ask you a question. I said,
this place, hunt. She said, what room in? I said, say,

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I'm in three twenty seven. She said, we'll don't staying
four thirty. I'm like, why she said that place that, honey,
I said, I said, what happens? Because it was this
is the old monastery monk monastery is I guess from
the like eighteen hundreds. It's a hotel now. And she
said that, I guess a monk hung himself.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
In the room. Oh God, I'm telling you. The little girl.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Lady told me, oh God, you just sold over the town.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
God listening, No, I'm listening to the story.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
And all of a sudden I hear and by the way,
you know, wait, nobody else said oh God or something.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
So anyway, so honeyself in the room.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
And so the lady said that they had a couple
came and stayed there, and the wife woke up and
saw the image of a man hanging over the base.
He said, they came through out the room and now
I'm like, man, I said, I know the place, honey,
but it don't I like staying in there.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Let's cool with me. I like like that stuff. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
We're not black people. We ye, we're scared, we take off.
Excuse me, Black black people ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
You know, black folks, what.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Do you mean?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Black people are scared and take off. I'm you know
most of them. I mean, I'll take off, but I
mean my house.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I know my house.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
But you know when they see something like like all right,
I'm gonna use example for what I would tell y'all.
I'll tell you fred y'all. We get it first in
the worst in the movies, and then y'all, y'all, y'all,
I want you to y'all be.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
In the movie.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
You've in the movie, and it's just it'll be a
murder of going some murderers going on there. Hey, what's
that sound over there? Let's find let's go find that
sound over there?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Instead of running, y'all looking for the sound Pop, Papa,
what is this a fire crackers?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
No, that's a gun. You know, Fred, you know you
know I'm talking about it. I mean, like, like me,
think about this there Shark Week. What brothers do you
see in cages doing Shark Week? You got see the
brother out there doing Shark Week. He don't know. We

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know better, we know what's gonna happen. You're gonna get
eaten by the shot. What's gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't understand something, And and you pointed it out,
and I just kind of looked at the stage and
I realized that of the five of us up here,
I'm the only white person.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
You know how we feel that, you know how we
feel most of the time.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
But you said if you're black in the movies, you
get it worst and first.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
No, you said it backwards, first and the worst. What
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Okay, when the movie starts, let's just say the movie
comes on, unlets somebody getting killed, like it's a murderer
out there and it's a black person in the movie.
Always said, we say it right, Oh, he won't get
the first in the worst? First, first the movie first,
that gonna last. He's gonna laught head chopped off, look
at through a pief hole, something go.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Through his eye. He gone first and the worst.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Like and then you can tell when that like the
so called he wroly said, they do it unbelievable that
come on, Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
We'll stop it.

Speaker 9 (45:03):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
So when when I thought about doing the show today,
and uh, you know, we have our friends from Los
Angeles that make the trip every year and there it's
so greatly appreciated. But also now because I spend some
time out here, you know, I talk about it on
TV and you know some of the folks from the
Coachella Valley are here. Yeah, and I in the back

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of my mind, I'm thinking to myself, this is so
unlike what we do compared to what I do on TV. Here,
it's very different. And I thought, how would the people
be able to adjust? And I was talking to these
two right here, and you know what that lady told me.
I think I like the radio show better than the
TV show. So they're all adjusting.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Okay, have you been have you been ruffling feathers that
you've been on TV show out here for?

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
What are you talking about? You? What are you talking about?
I got reaction.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Okay, that's not like a Hoffle mob about that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
We'll turn him over, We'll give him up, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
You know, we'll talk about that coming up next hour.
And I thought we had a really good conversation about
the Lakers winning, So that went really well. I thought
that was the best thing we've done today, the Lakers winning. Uh,
when we come back, the best place is to play
golf here in the valley for those of you that
live here, or if you are driving driving in, or
you're here from Los Angeles. Everybody comes here to play golf.

(46:39):
So we'll let you know that, and then I will
answer your question. Eric, am I ruffling feathers? Okay, thank you, Rodney. Yeah,
I'll tell you some of the stories. We're live at
Spotlight twenty nine Casino in Coachella.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Come on down.

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