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December 9, 2025 • 38 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, we continue on Fred Rgan, Rodney, Pete E D
and five to seventy l a sports. Okay, nobody wanted
to hire a woman or a man for an hour,
so we're gonna leave that.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I just sent you a video on the pitches just
in case you change your mind.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Not aware of that.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, yeah, there were two different.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Somebody's looking for a job, right, look at that and
uh probably won't have much, but sir, Yeah, okay, okay,
let's do Rams real quick here. We didn't do it, uh,
just you know, dominated Arizona. Arizona was a bad football team,

(00:44):
but you got to beat the bad teams. You can't.
You can't fall prey here. And with the uh the
Bears losing yesterday, all right, things are a little better
for the Rams again now when you're looking at playoffs,
seating and things like that, Arizona's just not very good. Actually,
it's hard to watch them.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, they're not a good football team them.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, No, it's hard to watch it hard.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's hard to watch it. Yeah's you're right, they're they're
not a very good football team. I mean, I would
tell you I was with my friend Roy Green down
there yesterday and when they scored first. I told them,
I said, we're gonna beat the hell out of y'all.
It's going first. You know, we're gonna beat y'all loup
for that. So I mean and I said, just to
him and Charles, I said, the thing about the Rams
is if you look at the team, the games they lost,

(01:33):
if they don't turn the football over, Fred, they're hard
to beat.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
They really are.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I mean they the games that they've lost, they've turned
the ball of them multiple times, not one time, not
two times, most like three times, and big, big, big
plays that they've turned the football over. So if this
football team stays on the path they stand. You know,
I'm tightening a few things in the secondary and sometimes
they play the run kind of loose.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it's a good football team. They're hard. They really
are hard for ball team to beat.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
If they don't turn the football over, that's the that's
that's the mark of a good team. And they could
be undefeated. But you know, I say, loser say that
all the time. This wouldn't happen, that wouldn't happen. But yes,
they're they're they're a good foot. I'm not saying that
they're the team that's going to go to the super Bowl.
But they have a great shot at going to the
super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, they they don't beat themselves and when they do,
that's what happens, is they it's a turnoff of situation.
But if they play a solid football game without the
turnovers and you play them straight up and no team
has a turnover, Rams a hard team to beat, you
can't beat. I know you can say that about a
lot of teams. They if you don't turn over, blah
blah blah. But Rams really are yes, the only you know,

(02:40):
their losses have been at their own demise. It wasn't
really another team just beat them or beat them up,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
It was.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
It was really about the Rams not playing a very
good football game, especially against a team like Carolina. You
probably could beat them ninety nine times out of one hundred,
but they turned the ball over and Carolina took advantage
of it. The thing is, you know, with the Rams,
I don't know about you, Ed, because you're there more

(03:08):
than I do I am, or or you Fred, but
it it has every year has gotten better in terms
of the the fan involvement of fan support that it
is turned into.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
It just feels like me, it's turned into.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
A an advantage for the Rams playing at so far
more so this year and and and it's gotten Like
I said, it's gotten better every year than it has
in the in the past. And I think just that
the the Rams fan base has been showing up on

(03:49):
a big level. There are times obviously we we we
talked about the Rams early on as they were like,
you know, similar to the Chargers, that if another team
came in and with a big name, they were gonna
get drowned out. The fans are gonna get drowned out.
Now it's like maybe you know, one or two teams
coming here. San Francisco is still gonna have a big base.

(04:10):
But I'm looking at it and the games I've been
into that the fan base is ready for it. So
I think the Rams, if they can roll it off
and get home field play these games, that's so fine.
They will be extremely difficult.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
To be Yeah, I agree right now, Mant you got
to think, uh, with the with the Ram has been
back twelve or thirteen years. I think they've been back
because because me Bay has been the nine and they
were gone for like twenty two years. I mean, so
It's like it's like, you know, you're taking a man
of one.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
One man or woman leaves and come back twenty two
years later, I'm home.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay, And well you that's what That's what it was
like when the Rams showed back up. We're back, okay, now,
who are y'all again? And then on top of that,
when you come back and you're not winning. You know,
when they had Jeff Fisher, we wasn't winning football games.
But you're just a football team in town. I said,
there's a lot of things to do in LA. When

(05:05):
they got John Nick Bay, things changed, and so everybody
loves the one, especially in Los Angeles. And I mean,
being here, are you right right, I've I've seen the change,
you know in the fan base. I mean I think
if if they do and I think they would win
more Super Bowls, and then if they do that, the
fan base would even get bigger and bigger. Before I
came to the Rams and then Rams to playing in

(05:27):
the coliseum, I'm gonna get Jackie Slid and all those guys,
Jim Young Jack Youngblood will say man, Lee Roy Irving
will say, man, we used to have eighty to one
hundred thousand people at the game. That's what it was
like when we went at the coliseum. When I went
to Anaheim, man, it was like thirty thousand, forty maybe.
I mean, men, all honesty, I used to like playing

(05:47):
on the road better because we had a better turnout.
I mean really, because we would almost sell out because
we were the Rams coming in. They looked at us
as being from Los Angeles, even though we were really
in Orange County. To be honest with you, and I
didn't realize that. But you know, players love when they
fans show up. I mean, I mean, it makes you
you're gonna play hard anyway, but you know, right when
you got your fans, you just you get you get
more into the game because we got our people here

(06:10):
cheering for us.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, the other side of it is when you went
to Anaheim and we're drawing thirty thousand, the Raiders were
drawing ninety thousand.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's a coliseum. I agree, I agree. I mean, I mean,
like I said, it wasn't my call. I mean, I
just came out of college and told me when I
went to when they took me, when I've been they
picked me up and we drive leaving LA. I didn't
know what we're going. I said, hey, in La behind us.
He said, oh yeah, he said yeah, we're in Orange County.
I'm like, what's Orange County to go? So, Ray San Jose, Oh,
he's a He's a he's a Ram.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
He's a Ram. He's a Ram.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So yeah, I didn't even know that the Rams were
in Orange County until I got out in Orange County.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, the thing about it is, and give the Rams credit.
It was tough to come back. It was tough to
try and reintegrate into a market that they left. They
did a right. I mean, Kevin Dumoff knows what he's doing.
Stan Kronkey gives him the go ahead, make it happen,

(07:08):
and they have done this right. You have to acknowledge
that because that was a hard cell to come back
here after all those years.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, you know, it's credit is not a hard sale
because the one thing is the Rams were here.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Now they did.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You lose, you lose you lose all that generation, you know,
and twenty you lose a you lose a whole generation,
maybe two generations of fans. But the grandpas and the
dads and the kids that like the fifteen and sixteen
seventeen year old that saw the Ram before they left
there was I still left the RAM. Then they're in
they're in Saint Louis. Then you have to you have
to win that fan base back. You have to win

(07:42):
it back. And you win that back by winning. That's
what makes that That's what makes you that fan again
makes I was a RAM fan. You know I heard
people say, man, I was a RAM fan. So they
traded you and I left the Rams. I went to
San Francisco. I like saying, well, I like to like
the Cowboys. You know, when the Rams left, I just
was done with them. Now they back, Okay, I'm back
on I'm back with them again. So you know, you
got you kind of got both sides of the of

(08:03):
the spectrum. You know how people feel about, you know,
the team that almost like abandon them. Let's talk from
college football here. Playoffs are set. Notre Dame left out.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
James Madison is in interesting because the coach of James
Madison is going to be the coach of u c
l A. So he is going to coach in the
game and then after the first game it should be
over and he'll report to Westwoo because they're playing.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
For giving them a chance after the first when they
play they played playing somebody Oregon.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeahshed rushing, but.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's pretty impressive.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
Coach games in Eugene first on.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
The on campus that the team that's got the better
seed they play at their place.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, and right now Oregon is a twenty and a
half point favorite.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, that might be.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's low.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, they might get routed.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I don't know if that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
You might come to us. I can already say they might.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They might.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
They might be surprising nobody and Eugene.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
For that game.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Indeed. I love the story of the of the head
coach and u c l A.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know, not going for you know, the the just
playing the name game. Let's go bring in a big
name cat to come into u c l A. And uh,
they they did their homework on this guy and for
where you know, from what I understand, he's he's one
where he's gone. He's a he's kind of what they
like to say is a culture change or fred he
likes to you know, it will come in and change

(09:35):
the mentality of of u c l A. It's got
a tough job because U c l A, you know,
is not on par with some of the other Big
ten schools when it comes to the n I L
and and the collective and money that they can provide
some of these kids. But he comes in with the
attitude which is different, you know, because they're not letting.
They're not letting Lane Kiffin coach oh Miss going forward.

(09:59):
But yet you see is saying okay, uh, yeah, you
can coach that game. James Madison is saying, yeah, you
can coach that game. The kids were with you. You
built this up, so go ahead and do it. I
thought that was I thought that was pretty cool that
they that both James Madison and UCLA said it was
cool for them to coach those kids.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Won one last time.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I think so too. Indiana beat Ohio State. That was
a huge win for Indiana. So they go in as
a number one seed. Ohio State too. If you look
at it, I guess the glaring omission and this would
be Notre Dame. Uh, they've elected not to play in
a bowl game. Iowa State in Kansas State both looking

(10:42):
for new coaches or Kansas State's got one, but Iowa
State looking both have elected not to playing the ball game.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, go back to that though, What do you think
about that?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Fred and a ed that.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
These schools that didn't get and and and it's glaring
that the ones that didn't get invited to the playoffs
are obviously pissed off, especially Notre Dame, and they're pissed
off that they didn't get it, you know, into the
playoff situation. So now they've decided, we're not even gonna
play in a bowl game. I mean, look, the Bowl.
The bowl situation is dead. I don't know how much

(11:16):
longer it lasts. The Bowl, it's just not gonna last
more than three years. To me, all those bowls are
gonna be gone. It's gonna they're gonna find a way
to do something different. But the way the Bulls have
worked Cotton Bowl and Sugar Bowl and you know, the
Texas Weed Eater Bowl or whatever you want to call it,
is those things those days are done. Both, Yes, the Bowl,

(11:38):
those days are going to be gone by the wayside.
But still, you know, you got the kids that have
you know, played two or three years at the school,
and you know, so they didn't make the playoffs. You
don't want to give them one more shot to go
play in a bowl game because it's a vacation. Basically,
if you're going, you know, saying playing in Orlando. I
think that's the Citrus Bowl, and you or you could
play in Miami and go there and hang out for

(11:59):
a week, can play a game for the kids. I
think it's just it's just right now. It's the whole
situation is a little bit bad for college football because
I don't know what the number is.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
What is the number? Twelve? Fourteen is gonna be good?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Sixteen they're talking about doubling it up and going twenty
four teams get in.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I don't know what that number is.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Because every year somebody's gonna be mad. Somebody's gonna be mad,
you know what I mean for Yoda Dave to be
mad after they you know, yeah, they rattled off what
nine straight ten straight after they lost the second game,
but they lost to Miami. They lost to Miami. And
how do you put them in and not put Miami in?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Fair game?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, that's fair. I mean that's fair. I mean, let
me ask you, what do you think is gonna happen?
I mean, you know, with the Bowls, you think there
won't be any more bowl.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Games at all?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I mean, no matter school gets money for playing those
bowl Yeah, I mean, that's a paycheck.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I don't of the bowl game is gonna be gone
riding because you know, you think about it, it's all
about that money now.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean, it's like it was like someone.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Mentioned it to me that they might they may do
the bowl games to start the season.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
That's not a bad idea to open up the season.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
This is we're gonna do the The Orange Bowl is
gonna pit two of you know, top notch teams together
and we'll play the Orange Bowl to open up the season.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
And we'll play the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But that's not fair. I don't think that's fair. It's
gonna pick a team. Nigga always picked the big schools.
You know, they gonna picked the big schools. They're gonna
pick the Ohio Stage, They'll pick the USC, they'll pick
the Texas, they'll pick the Alabama, they'll pick they picked
the big school.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
But normally conferences are slotted in there.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
That's how the So the way you would probably do
it is however you finished the previous season, would slought
you in a bowl the upcoming season. That's probably how
you would do it if you wanted to. So I
want eighth place, pack, I say, Pack twelve. I guess
it's gonna be back next year, eighth place, pack twelve place,
eighth place. Acc So if you finished eighth the previous season,
then you're gonna play them in the Pop Tart Bowl
the next year to open the season something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
The Bowl to me, the bowls always that's that's like
a treat at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You guys play, Yeah, I think was the experience, Like.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
It's a great experience because you get to go.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
We played in the Hula Bowl one year, not yeah, no,
a looa Bowl they called Loha Bowl in Hawaiian was
out there for a week. It was it was great
and it was like it was basically, you know, it
was a vacation for the season being over, because unless
you're playing, you know, in one of those big bowls
like the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Sugar Bowl

(14:31):
or Orange Bowl that was going to decide the national champion,
you know that particular year, you wanted to go someplace
was fun and warm and war Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, we played, We played in the We played in
the Holiday Bowl my sophomore year and got cheated by
b y uh that was McMahon. Yep, Man, they cheated us.
Oh my gosh, what happened?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Remember that game?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I remember, man, we were we were killing them Fred
like forty something, now, let's say twelve or something. That
legend they gave them. They gave them. I think they
gave him three touchdowns. The ball bounced, you know on
the screen, you see it. You see it bounce and
the guys traps it, and I know you want the
defensive places that we saw bounced. And he said, oh,
y'all killed them anyway, don't that don't mean nothing. They

(15:21):
gave him. They gave him two touchdowns, two or three touchdowns,
and then they gave him an on side kick that
they went about two yards. They gave that to him,
and they threw a hell mary and beat us at
the end of the game forty six to forty five.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I wass tell Jim, I said, man, y'all know, y'all
cheat the hell out of us.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Jim Jim probably yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, we kind of we did kind of the
rail y'all a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
And then we played the cow We played in the
Cotton Bowl and the Cotton Bowls, right, you know, we went,
that's a musing dollars. So it was right at home
for us, you know, we just was right at home
at the Cotton Bowl, played Pitt And they do.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
It up at the Cotton Bowl, right, they do it?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Did they did? They did it up at the cop Bowl.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yeah, they did give you a year and all that
kind of stuff. But so yeah, no, he d's right.
It's like a reward at the end of the year.
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
And and again the schools make money off those bowl games,
so I don't know what you what you do because
it becomes the school's prerogative if they want to not
play in that game.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
And for Notre Dame, you know, that was gonna.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Be a that was wherever they where were they were
supposed to go, what bowl they were supposed to play,
I forget it or it didn't matter, but yeah, they
were gonna they were going to not only generate money
for the school, but also generate money for the other
school that they were going to play, and generate money
for for TV revenue that they were going to generate

(16:38):
because they were playing in a bowl. And so they
just eliminated all that revenue for not not only just themselves,
but the team they're going to play and the bowl itself,
and a lot of those bowls are connected to the
community that you know, has some sort of charity angle
to it. So there's just a it's a lot going
on when you take away those bowls.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, but they don't care.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
They don't care. School look at like I said, Okay,
think about it.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
The school's care.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
The football program don't care, right because they have work
to do now season's over. They gotta get ready for
next year. They don't have another month three weeks.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
They care so well to do by the way, for it,
because you mentioned Iowa State and Kansas State, they're actually
paying fines to the conference to not play a million dollars.
They're losing money. They're losing money not to play in
the bowl game.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, but it's like take it out that so Duke
won the a c C but miamis representing the a
c C.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's kind of odd. I mean they'd beat first of.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
All, you know, like to say, well, losers say we
should have been in that game, but they got we
got deep by cal.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I just still can't believe that anyway. But the.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, because I was I was all fly set to
fly down to to UH.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Charlotte to watch them play Virginia and and but we.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Lost to we lost to h to cam But I
don't understand how that's possible. You win the a c C,
but you don't you don't get a chance to play
in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
So so how it so? How it works with the
twelve team playoffs. So the top four highest rated conference
champions make it. And because Doke cat five losses, the
committee did not rank them, so JMU was ranked and
Tu Lane were ranked, so those are so they both
being group of five teams, were ranked higher than the
ACC champions. So the a c C champs out. So
even though Miami's are that large and didn't win their conference,

(18:28):
they're still eligible to make it because they were ranked
inside the top two ranked.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Man. First of all, a lot of that is just
that's something that's just so crooked. You know, they you know,
you know how they rapping one who they want in.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
They ain't want to make sure they get the you know,
the team's got the high Who does Tu lane play?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kevin? Who's two lane play?

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Let me double check on that. I thought it was
ole missed, but I might be way.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
You're right, they play Old Miss.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're right, Oh that and the old miss killed them,
kill them again, they killed them.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Got a good football team.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
But you know, that's why I was shocking that Notre Dame.
They didn't give Notre Dame a slot because they know
how much money Notre Dame would would bring in if they.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Make it put them in the playoffs. But they kept
them out. But yeah, they you know, Miami. Get who
do you want to in the playoffs? Miami or Duke? Well, yeah,
I mean you know what I'm saying. This ain't basketball.
This is football. So about draw of Miami being in

(19:33):
the playoffs versus Duke, it's just you know, and it's
so disingenuous when they say, well it happens because you know,
the the Miami had a tough schedule and blah blah.
They didn't even win their conference. They didn't win the conference.
How do you fix it for it?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
The whole system screwed up anyway, they're gonna put the
teams in that they think are going to make a money.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
There you go to the you see us again, that's
what that's the computer.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
You Yeah, they should not have They should not have
these rankings all season long to eliminate the rankings like
the top twenty five just eliminated, because that puts the
pressure on whatever the committee that's deciding these things. It
puts the pressure on them. Oh soinso's ranked they're ranked
number eight in the country, and we had them ranked
number seven in the and they may not have played

(20:25):
really anybody, but yet they're ranked or had or they
had one big win that put them in the top ten,
and all of a sudden now they are ten and one,
eleven and one, but not not a real big time win.
But yet they're forced to put them in because they
were ranked eight, which I think happened in reverse this time,

(20:46):
because I think wasn't Notre Dame ranked higher than Miami.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, that's the crux of the issue is that Miami
had beaten Notre Dame, had to have a Notre Dame
opened the very first CFP rankings. There were eight spots
ahead of them, and they crept up, up and up,
and then towards the very end they're right next to
each other. And you said they have similar resumes with
two losses. Now you have to find a way to
justify how you had Notre Dame ahead of them to
begin with, so you had to put Miami in because
there's no way they can end with two losses, and

(21:10):
you say they both look equal at the end of
the season, so that they backed themselves into a corner
when they decided to put Notre Dame ahead of Miami
to begin with.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The rankings.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Are they going to eliminate the rankings throughout the season,
because that throws the wrench into you got a team
you think about Texas. Texas was ranked number one to
begin the season. Yep, right, you know, I'm.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
So hung around. They hung around, hung around so happy.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
That's my only saving grace. They ain't going and we
ain't going good.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
But they were ranked so high to begin with that
they just kind of stayed in the mix all season
long because they were ranked number one to begin the season,
and had they not lost that third game, they would
have been in.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Man, they would have loved Texas. They loved Texas.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
At once they'd dropped to I think they had dropped
to sixteen or seventeen. The next thing you look at
like nine, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, they jumped that far up my god.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
But that's the Texas because you know why, Texas they
travel with about fifty or sixty thousand.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
We're gonna bring that minute to a game.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
But anyway, I'm sorry. Four in NFL fotlight.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Four.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
All right, let's find out what's been going on today,
every single thing which has occurred. Kevin will update us
with its lit.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
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Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yes, we keep it rolling. Man, it's flying. This time
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Speaker 4 (22:59):
On a Monday, Rodney beat Fred Rogan, Hall of famer
Eric Dickerson on the Ford NFL Spotlight.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, a lot has happened since we've been on
the Eric. Kevin's gonna update us with everything. Now with
let's slit. Let's do this split stories lighting up their
sports headline.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
All right, So I'm gonna give you guys a quote
from Dave Roberts, who's currently speaking to the media at
the winter meetings in Orlando. And you tell me what
we should read into what he said when he was asked,
and this would be a fabian ar die of the
athletic who's out there. So Dave Roberts was asked about
Tayo Hernandez and his future slash status with the club.
Dave Roberts said, quote, right now he's our right fielder.

(23:37):
Should I read anything into that statement from Dave Roberts
other than right now he's our right fielder. Next year
he could be our left fielder. No, oh, am, I
reading that wrong. Ford, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I think you're reading that wrong.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Oh okay u.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I didn't think there was anything to that, but maybe
there is. That says right now he's there. It doesn't
mean he's gonna be there, and that's what it said
to me. It doesn't guarantee he's going to be there,
and that doesn't mean they're gonna move them to another
position or not play him as much. So I guess

(24:13):
the reports of he's been mentioned in trade conversations are real.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Widney, Yeah, but that just goes to show you if
people can take snippets and they can take little things
and start to run with it. That's just where we are.
You know, it didn't matter what he said. It was
somebody was gonna take it anything. You you know, a
question answered or asked about Tayo, there's gonna be there's

(24:40):
gonna be a spin on it.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
There's gonna be a spin on it.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
It's just like you know, oh Taani a little while ago,
it was just is always going to be a spin
when it comes to the Dodgers. He could have said
anything about Tayo and now it's a controversy.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
So no, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Reading anything anything into it. He's he's under contract. Everybody
knows he struggled in the right field, and I think
it could be as simple as Dave Roberts is just
making sure that Tail knows that you are a part
of our You're a part of our decision making, and
you're part of our team and we want you there

(25:20):
and giving him another bold of confidence, going hey, right now,
he's our starting right fielder. So I don't know what
you guys are talking about.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh I didn't think he was confidence. I didn't take
that as a poe confidence. I want to say well,
he's gonna be here. We're not sure where we're gonna
put him. We're not sure where he's gonna play. I mean,
he could have said a variety of different things, but
he ended the season as the right fielder.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And for him to say he's our right fielder, I mean,
what what else do you want him to say? Like
I said, anything he said was going to get spun
in a certain way.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
But Kevin did he say right.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Now, right now, he's our right That is the quote.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
If they played tomorrow in the World Series Game seven,
he's the right fielder.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
How can you take it? If you take it like that?

Speaker 6 (26:07):
And I'm getting he wouldn't say he's not gonna pound
the table and say tails here and he ain't going nowhere.
He's gonna be on this roster next year. He's our guy.
Outside of saying that, and then you back yourself into
a corner if you say that, because if.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
You say anything rather than yeah, you know, well maybe
there right now is what people are hanging on too,
like you did, like you just did, Fred, everybody's hanging
on to the right.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Well, I think most people are reading it the way
that Fred reedan though, I mean that's I think that's no.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I get it, I get it, But I'm saying that's
my point is that it didn't matter what he said.
He could have said something different and people would have
jumped all over.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
That as well.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Let me he's like, well, well he's on the team,
he's definitely going to be a part. What if he
said he's he's definitely a big part of this team
going forward.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And just left it at that. How about we try this?
Do it like this, Kevin, Kevin, you'd be Dave Roberts.
Is Nookie Bett's going to be your shortstop next year?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Go without a doubt, without a doubt, Why wouldn't he
be one of the best players last year.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's exactly what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
What you see it right, is Freddy Freeman playing first base?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
No?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
A better one is is Tommy Edmond's going to be
your second basement next.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Year a baseball team next year?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
That what Tommy?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Because you throw up Mookie. That's like saying, is Freddy
Freeman going to be your first base?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
But if it's Mookie. But if he says Tommy Edmund
going to be your second basement next year, what he
could say, We're not exactly sure where we're going to
play him, not right now.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
That said right now.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
But if he said right now Tommy Edmond is our
second baseman, what would you have read into that if
we're going out to.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Look for a second baseman.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, but Tommy Edmond hasn't been mentioned in trade rumors.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, but everybody's in trade rumors, Fred, everybody, everybody up there.
When you talk about we just talked about Trek Scouble.
You know, who do you want for Terrek Scoobel? Do
you throw out eight many you know, five different people
you asked that question to, you'll get five different answers.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well, I mean Schoobl's name has been out there. Tail's
name has been out there. It is different when someone's
name has already been mentioned as far as being in
trade talks, like, no one's mentioning it, right, But.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
I'm saying that to use the Mooki comparison is yeah,
you can't use that one. You got to use somebody
that could could be there or could not be there.
Like we don't know if Taylor, if their their plans
is no, he's had enough for right field. We're gonna
make sure he plays left field, or he doesn't play
at all.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
And that's kind.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Of where I said, I see it is that right
field was not his position, and and we all knew that,
and people knew that going in.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
They just kept playing him in the right field.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
But to suggest that he's he's gonna be out of here,
I didn't read into anything like that. And the comparison
of Mookie, because we all know Mookie's gonna be the
shortstop of the Dodgers for the foreseeable future, at least
the next three to five years. Mookie is the shortstop,
whereas a guy like Tommy Edmonds or even if he
threw out Max Munsey, he said, Max Munsey is he

(29:12):
Uh so, what do you see with Max Munsey right now?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
He's our third baseman? Right, so they could trade.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Him, right, Yeah, they could trade anybody except for Mookie,
Freddy and Otani, Tom.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
And Will Smith. They're not guys Will Smith, right, but
everybody else, you know, if.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
The right deal comes up, and school Boy, they say
we want Max Munsey and we want the Immachian like
you mentioned, and we want you know, a couple of prospects. Yeah,
but if they say, oh no, we want Tommy Edmonds
and we want, uh, Max Munsey and a couple of prospects,
Blake trying it, blah blah blah, it'd.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Be okay with it.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
I just I just think that it didn't matter what
Dave said at that moment, that it was going to
be talked about because of Tail and his struggles at
right field last year.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Eric and Rodney, I want to get you guys' opinion
on this because I thought this is interesting. So yesterday,
Raiders play the Denver Broncos in Las Vegas. Raiders are
down twenty four to fourteen, five seconds remaining. They're at
the Bronco twenty eight yard line. So usually in a
situation like that, you're down ten, there's only five seconds left,
kick the ofphinse out there, maybe you score a touchdown,
or maybe you just admit defeat. You're taking knee, make
sure nobody gets hurt, and you get out of there.

(30:27):
Pete Carroll decides to run out the kicker to kick
a field goal.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I saw it.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Yeah, okay, right, so you know where I'm going here, Eric, Yes,
So it was twenty four to fourteen. Daniel Carlson makes
the field goal to make it twenty four to seventeen.
What was the line, Kevin woos Kevin and at half points?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, was the spread.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
So you guys, tell me from a player's standpoint, if
you're out there, you know you're in a game that
maybe you're up, maybe you're on the losing side, it
doesn't necessarily matter. Does it make sense to you as
a player that you would kick a field goal in
that situation?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Absolutely not. I said, this game is gonna be over.
I seem gonna have to go to the end zone
or just take a knee. But they brought the field
goal unit. I'm like, okay, what's the bedding line on
this game is? Then that's the first thing came to
your mind, right, that's the.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
First thing came my mom like, what what are they doing?

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Well, no, we hear coaches and players like we don't
pay attention to that stuff. And I was like, no, you.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Don't in the moment, Kevin, I'll be I'll be honest.
You don't in the moment like that. In that moment
as a player, you're not thinking about, oh, wait a minute,
the line is seven and a half, Get that kicker.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Get that kicker ready, Get the kicker ready.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, you're not thinking like that, you know, but I
do believe that it. I'm just talking from a player
standpoint now. Administrative and coaches and all that kind of
stuff that's going on between the ears and everybody got
hitsets on and and things like that. It maybe I'm
not saying it happened, but it's possible that somebody got

(31:54):
down and said, hey, let's kick that field goal.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So we, uh, we.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Covered the spread.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
We cover the spread, cover the spread.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Somebody made a call and that's not out of the
realm because that's happened before this. Let's make sure we
cover the spread and they send it. Because ordinarily you're
right and indeed is right that in that situation, it's
five seconds left. Either this is gonna be the last
play or you're gonna get one second on the clock.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
So either you kneel.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Down to protect your guys and say we can't win
this game and call it a day, or you throw
a hail Mary to the end zone. Hopefully it happened,
because if you throw a hell Mary, the game's over anyway,
because that's gonna take more than five seconds.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So the.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Protection smart play is just kneel down and call it
a day. You know we're not talking. You know, I
don't know if it's high school or college. You know,
point differential matters, and so you got to make sure
you score enough and you're right in the mix.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It doesn't work that way in the NFL, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So it was if the.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Question is you're answering, is this was this a conscious
decision to.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
It was very suspect.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
And the players, to your point, right, y'all are just playing.
You just do the coach is calling you. Run out there,
whatever unit, do your thing. Yeah you're not thinking.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh, wait a minute, I read on Wednesday in the
line with seven and a half and wait a minute,
we got a chance to cover this thing.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Coach, Hey, Pete, Pete, Pete, before you do this, Pete, Pepe.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
We kick the field goal. We covered, Okay, let's go cover.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Maybe Daniel Carls would have some sort of thing in
his contract about made field goals in this season or something.
Maybe I highly doubt it. That's what's lighting up the
headlines for.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
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Speaker 4 (34:11):
Oh yeah, let's finish it up, Freddy, let's go Roddy Pete,
Fred Rogan, the Hall of Famer, Aeron Dickinson.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
What you got all right? Programming note, David beth Say
will be on the show tomorrow, So second day of
the Winter Meetings. We need our man, and our man
will be with us tomorrow. His ears to the ground,
the ground speaks and he listens, so we will have
stuff and all week long. He's doing Dodger Talk this week,
so I know everybody will be tuned in tonight at
seven as Dave goes on breaks down what's happening at

(34:38):
the meetings, everything he's hearing and what might happen. So
tomorrow he's with us all this week he's doing Dodger
Talk here on the station. Okay, Eric, Well before we
get out of here, how do you think the Rams
look now where they're sitting.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I think they're in good shape. I said this, and
I keep saying it. The Rams are heart to beat.
If they don't turn the football over I mean multiple times.
Number one, that's okay, you know, you don't want to
turn it at all. But I think they're a really
good football team. I think the you know, the pass
rush is not getting as much as i'd like to
see in the last couple of weeks. But I think

(35:14):
they're solid football team. I think they got the kicking
game kind of straightened out, so I like their chances.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Go ahead r real quick.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I mean, I just it doesn't feel like there's not
really any dominants on either side a FC or NFC,
and it's just, you know, obviously it always comes down
a team playing well. But even in the a f C,
where you could count on the Chiefs dominant all season
and they're gonna run it, Buffalo being dominant all both
those teams have been beatable. Baltimore's like, we don't even

(35:45):
know if they're gonna make the playoffs. And even on
the NFC side, you know, yeah, one one week, everybody's
believing in Green Bay, and then the next week is
Detroit and then oh here comes Seattle. But it's so
wide open. Who do you see as the threat the
biggest red for the for the Rams on the NFC side,
or even anybody on the a FC.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Side, Well let's go. Let's go NFC. For the Rams,
I think the threat is still Philadelphia, you know, even
though they're kind of struggling a little bit, uh in
San Francisco. San Francisco is still you know, their threat.
That's a good football team. I mean I think they're
was nine and four or something like that. The a
f C is, you know, the teams I think is
playing like out of sight to me, as if I

(36:27):
think shocked everybody as the New England Patriots at ten
and two.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, I mean, that's real.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
When you tended you, you ain't pretending to just messing around.
You gotta got to play the game. I mean at
ten and two.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And another team that I know that that's really good
and especially that defense, and I think both nicks is
coming on, is the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's a that's a that's a that's a very good
football team. I think those two out of the AFC,
but at the NFC, it's it's quite a few teams
in the NFC. The Bears are good, Green Bays good.
The Rams are good. You know, I keep saying if
the Rams don't turn the football over. They don't if
they play solid football and it just don't turn it over.
Maybe don't turn them with multiple times.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's just hard to beat them. I'm just saying it's
really hard to beat them. That you get them in
cold weather. It's you beat anybody if you're not used
to it.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
All right, quickly before we get out of here, Chargers
Eagles tonight, you'll hear the game on KFI thoughts.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Uh, believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I kind of like the Chargers in this football game
until the Eagles showed they can kind of get the
offense back on track. The defense is not the same defense,
The offensive line is not the same as it was
last year. Uh So I'm gonna I'm gonna take the
Chargers in this football game and the little team from
from LA.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Team a little team they're taking. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know what's going on with the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
They are They're an enigma that I don't know who
they are. I don't know if they know who they
are right now, coming off of Super Bowl win.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
They're just not on the same page.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
And then they got the off the field stuff, you
know with with aj Brown and not getting the ball,
and then say Kwan not having a year he had
last year and complaining they're not running the ball like that.
Where can you go from a guy that ran for
two thousand yards basically last year where he can barely
make a thousand. So it's it's something going on in
Philadelphia that I don't know. The Maine man fronts too,

(38:14):
that's where Jalen Hurts got to step up.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yep, that's got it. You got it all.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Right, Roddie, thanks for the day. Kevin, good work as
well ed a pleasure. And Rodney we get him tomorrow,
yes sir

Speaker 2 (38:25):
All right, I take care of guys right on

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