We talk about the fire's around the city that are affecting sporting events (Kings and Lakers games have been postponed and the Rams-Vikings game might get moved). The Dodgers need 40 man roster spots in order to sign more players (like Kike' Hernandez and Roki Sasaki) - so who on the current roster could be on the trade block? Civil Engineer, Cristian Nalbandian, has an idea that he feels is better than the Dodger Stadium gondola plan
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rugan, Rodney Peene on
a five seventy LA Sports Rodney, how are.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You today a little better than yesterday? Fred? But it's
still going out there, Man, it's still going out there.
In certain areas where I am, it's kind of it's
calm a little bit calm today, but man, I'm still
watching all over southern California, La Area and Pasadena, out
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the Diena, Malibu Palisades, all that area, Santa Monica. It's
it's still some tragedies out there and it's still going.
So this thing is not gonna be over anytime soon. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So what I was able to see this morning as
I got up and look at things, the winds have
died down a bit. Yeah, now they've not stopped, and
they're not expected to stop tomorrow afternoon. They say things
should be somewhat better. But even though the winds aren't
blowing as hard as they were, you still must be
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hypervigil You have to be. And you know, as we
take a moment here, and we said it yesterday, if
you want up to the minute information about what is
going on, go to KFI. Gary and Channon Aron right now,
they're right up the dial from US at AM six forty.
They are talking about it constantly. So if you're out,
if you're about, if you're worried, if you're concerned about
an area, they'll have that information. They will have it,
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and they will have it right up to the minute. Yes,
but as we look at yesterday, you know, I realized
when I got up this morning, I don't think there
is any more Pacific Palisades. If you think about it,
the majority of Pacific Palisades burned. Think about that, the
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majority of it burned. Just consider the horrific nature of
that it burned. In the years I've lived here, Rodney,
I can't remember anything like that happening to a degree
of devastation.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I can't either, I mean I I do. You know, Look,
we live long enough, you see it all and and
fires are a thing in southern California, but usually it's
a it's a summertime thing when the air is dry
and and you get these winds coming and and uh,
you know you're dealing with it in the summer months.
But to have this happen in the in the dead
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of winter, I mean, look, we're not a four seasoned state.
But in the dead of winter here in La It's
it's crazy. I've never seen anything like it. And we've
seen fires and I've been I know friends that that
a lot of friends in Malibu that have dealt with
the fires that have happened over there over the years
and close calls and all that kind of stuff, but
nothing comes even close to what we're witnessing. Uh, for
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the last few days here, that has engulfed almost basically
the whole city, fred I mean from think about it,
from Malibu to Pasadena out the Dean. That's a that's
a for for people that don't understand people outside of
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outside of La didn't. That's that that's a humongous radius
for the fires to be burning at an alarming, alarming rate.
That is crazy. And then last night I was watching
you know, Runyon Canyon and Franklin Canyon and up there
in Hollywood Hills go up in flames. I mean, it's uh,
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it's so scary, and you're right, we've not seen anything
like this before.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know how odd it is. Well, look if you
lost your home, I mean, you know what this is like. Unfortunately,
where we're at, Uh, we are okay for the time being.
Studio City got it. Yeah, Studio City got hit, but
not where we're at yet. Fingers crossed and everything will
be okay. But when I saw that footage of Runyon
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Canyon last night, and I saw a reporter standing in
front of Running Canyon reporting, for some weird reason, it
struck me, I've been there, you know. I've gone through
that very gate. Yeah, I've gone up that very trail. Yeah,
many times.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I used to live up I used to live up
there in in the Hollywood Hills and used to hike,
used to take my dogs all through Running Canyon on
a regular basis. And to see that, it was that
was scary, scary. And I don't know, you know, the
way some of these things are burning. They were they
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were talking earlier about you know, you know, and there's
there's all those towers up on top of those mountains,
all the TV towers and radio towers that are on
top of those mountains, and the access to get there
for the planes and for the helicopters. They were saying,
it's very difficult because the visibility is not great, and
so to drop the the water or sand or whatever
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they're dropping to put out the fire, it becomes more
difficult because of the towers that are there that you
can you can have you know there without the visibility,
you can run right into them. So there's a danger
for them to even get the equipment up there too
to put out some of these fires.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I just heard and I actually heard it this morning,
and I guess maybe k if I reported it. Do
you know where a lot of the towers are that
that broadcast the signals of TV and radio stations around
southern California. Mount Wilson, yeahn Mount Wilson is on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah. Yeah, that did knock.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Everybody off the air. And our tower is there in
a second. Yeah, Mount Wilson is on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Now. Yeah, you know you can't.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Go You can't go five minutes without something else happening.
And again, if you want information, please go to KFI.
And also if you're not aware by now, and we
touched on it yesterday and I hope you've done it
or you've heard it watching some news broadcast, Please please
be prepared, no matter where you are, you need that
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area with all of your personal information, things that are valuable. Papers,
you need, you know you have them, maybe you don't
know where they're at. You need to find them because
it is good practice. Now, have a to go box,
have a bag, a box, something where you've got your stuff.
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So God forbid if you have to go, if there
is a disaster, grab your stuff that you're going to need.
Everything else in the house, that's one thing. But those
papers are things you're gonna desperately need. Have your stuff
put together. Okay, So the Dodger, or I should say,
the Laker game has been postponed tonight against Charlotte. Yes,
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and we were kicking this around this morning before they
made the announcement. And you wonder yourself, well, if or
better should they play? Absolutely positively one not that game
should not be played under no circumstances. The King's game
last night postponed, and the reason being, there are more
important things in life than what we do. And we
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acknowledge that we talked about this being the toy store yesterday,
and it really is very imposing when real life inserts
itself into the toy store. But we have to understand
that we are diversion and we are an entertainment product,
and people turn to sports for entertainment for a diversion passion, absolutely,
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but real life is very different and real life has
inserted itself here. There's no way the Liker should have
played tonight. All do apologies for somebody that does not
live in one of the affected areas and was going
to drive in from Orange County to see Lebron.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Sorry, not tonight. Not tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And even if things are better tonight, and we cross
our fingers and pray they will be. Even if they're better,
the basketball means absolutely nothing at this point in the city.
It will, it will, but not right now. It means nothing.
People have lost their homes, some people don't know what
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to do. So it's not time to head on down
to the crypt and catch the Charlotte Hornets in town.
It is a time for all of us to be together,
to stay together, to help each other, to be there
for each other, to comfort each other, not to go
down and watch basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Rodney. No, No, it's definitely not. And I think that
I know they're waiting until the last minute because it
is playoffs and nfls monitoring the situation and that game
with the Rams and the Vikings coming up this weekend,
which is possibly going to move to Arizona on Monday.
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I don't know when they make that decision. Fred, you
know obviously, uh, you know, playoffs are huge and you
want you want to play. If you earned a home
field game, you want to play on your home field.
I think that's why they're waiting, probably to the last minute.
But if things continue the way they are today, I
don't see them playing that game at so far. Fred,
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I see them moving it to Arizona. You know what,
things are got to be better Monday. Things will be
better Monday. I am going out on a limit saying
things are going to be better Monday. So what is
what does it mean if things they got to make
that they got to make that decision before Monday, right, So,
but I'm probably gonna have to be made tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Let's forecast ahead. Things are going to be better Monday.
All right, let's just forecast.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Let's think if we're making the decision, so it in
theory it will be safe to drive. Our life as
we know it, although will not be the same, but
we'll get back to some sort of normalcy for the
majority of people because a lot of people are affected,
but the majority of people are not, maybe in the periphery,
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but not directly. Okay, So now we acknowledge that. So
let's think like the NFL. So we acknowledge we believe
on Monday things will be better. We believe that the
worst will be behind us, and we also acknowledge that
in some way because it's what we must do. We
have to get back to life great. So now we
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put that on the table. So now let's look at
what's on the other side of the table. All right,
we may be back to normal, but not everybody will be.
We will be getting on with it, but for a
lot of people, getting on with it will mean what
am I going to do? I have no home, where
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am I going to go? What is next for me?
How do I figure this out? That's going to be
normal for them, and those people that are affected, their
families are going to be affected as well, because then
they have to help those people figure out what to do.
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So if you're the NFL, I think the question becomes
and I want to say this ahead of time. If
we had Kevin demoff On, I promise you, I swear
to you, you know, he would say, we want to
do what's best, whatever the definition of best is. But
if I'm the NFL, I'm thinking to myself having a
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game in Los angeles of that magnitude. A playoff game, Rotteney,
your thousand percent right, A home playoff game, and you
fight all year for those A home playoff game when
sure the worst of it may be over, but the
the lingering residue continues.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think I'd move it. Yeah, I think, I mean,
because you're not. Even though the fires could and hopefully
will be contained by then, you still got to think
about the air quality, right, Yeah, you still gotta think
about the quality of air not only for the players,
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but the fans as well going into that stadium. Now.
I know, look, inglewood was not affected like the Palisades,
but that smoke has been all over La. I mean
I can walk outside and still smell it as thick
as anything, and so I just I know it's a
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tough call. And if you're a RAM fan or you're
a RAM, you're like, no way. We we As you mentioned,
we fought all year to win our division to get
this home playoff game, and now we got to go
to Arizona. There's already going to be a lot of
Vikings fans in so far coming to this game, and
now you're putting us even more at a disadvantage where
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it may not even be close to a home playoff game.
But sometimes, as you mentioned, things are bigger than than sports,
bigger than than you know, things that we think that
that are that are huge without any catastrophes happening. This
is this is major. People have lost their lives and
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their homes and their everything they have and where do
you go from here? So to have to move a
football game from la to to Phoenix, that's small in
comparison to what is really going on here in La.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, I just think you have to be considerate the situation.
And again, these are times and Vince Gully said it,
this is the toy store, and we don't like when
we and erupts or jumps into the toy store. But
we have to be mindful of the situation as good
people in the NFL is going to absolutely look into
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what you suggested, Rodney, air quality. What is air quality
going to be like? But I think the way the
NFL works, you played in the league, and you know
a lot of people in the league. You know the commissioner,
you understand their mindset. I think they also try to
be mindful of this the overall situation in a City.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, let's say the air is okay, does that
still make it okay to play that game at Sofi Stadium. Yeah,
it's a pain in the ass, Rams fans.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I understand, Rodney said it. It's true, you've got tickets,
you have to schlep the Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I know, we got it. We understand. It's going to
cost you more money. It sucks.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Done acknowledged, it's in the books. But given the situation
here in fact, that game has moved. I'll tell you
one thing. It's going to cost the people that lost
their homes and a majority of every possession, they have
a hell of a lot more money.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Than it's going to cost you to drive to Phoenix.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I also will say sometimes
and that's it is the beauty of sports. Sometimes it
brings people together after a tragedy, and excuse me, a
lot of times it brings people together. I remember, you know, distinctly,
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after nine to eleven and they canceled, They canceled all
the sports canceled. Football and baseball was was getting ready
to go, heading into the into the playoffs, and it
was playoff pushes for everybody, and they resumed playing, and
they played that game. The Yankees played right, and I
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remember Bush throughout the pitch, you know, and through a strike,
and that just energized the whole country. And I believe
Piazza hit a home run earlier, you know, for the Mets,
you know, right after that as well, right after they
started resuming playing baseball. I remember, after the tragedy in
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Thousand Oaks, you know, the game that was in Mexico
City got canceled and brought back to the Coliseum and
that place was packed and it was the Chiefs versus
the Rams, and it was one of the best games
that the NFL's ever had. Jared Golf and Patrick Mahomes
put on a show that night, and I can remember
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the stadium just being electric and for a moment, for
a moment of three and a half hours, people's minds
were off of that tragedy that happened in Thousand Oaks,
you know, and that was awful, and it was awful,
and the Rams being out there did I'm believable, well
unbelievable job community, you know, connecting with the community, and
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that whole tragedy was just awful, awful. But I remember
people coming together, people hugging each other in the stands
before the game even started, just happy to be there.
So sometimes sports can take your mind off some of
the things that are going on and and bring people together.
And so I think the also the NFL is looking
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into that, is this going to this could be a
good thing for LA considering what they're going through, They're.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Going to play. Yeah, it's just a question of where,
just a question of where. And no matter where, that decision,
what that decision comes down to, be mindful.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Of what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If it's here, if they play, it's so fine. Fine,
If they play in Phoenix, okay. And and people will
aside from those affected by this, for that three hour period,
we'll have something else to think about. But the people
affected by it will still be thinking about what happened
to them. So, however it plays out, be it here
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or if you have to drive to Phoenix, just appreciate
that you were lucky enough not to be affected and
don't lose sight or track of those that were. All right,
So Gavin Lux is going, But should the Dodgers make
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another train, and if they do, who will it be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We'll talk about it next Uh huh, let's go on
a throwback Thursday, January ninth. Boy, it's already flying by.
Stay safe out there, peoples, Please right to be Fred Rogan.
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Let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It hurts when we lose people we like, but we
know sports is a business and sometimes you have to
make moves because every year, and we've said this, so
you know you won the championship last year, that's terrific.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You see some teams win a title and then they
rest on their laurels. There are teams that actually make
the playoffs, and Rodney played on one of them. And
when they made the playoffs and got everybody excited, they
didn't reinvest the next year. As a matter of fact,
they made other moves because they figured they'd bought themselves
some goodwill. And there are a number of franchises in
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professional sports and the people that own them that make
decisions like that. You know, we're good for the next
four years. Now we sell hope and sure we had
a hell of a run, came up short, or maybe
even won it, but now we have bought ourself goodwill
and we're fine.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We're good. We'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
We don't really want to reinvest much because now it's
our turn to make some money. Dodgers don't function that way.
If they don't want it, they invest. If they do
want it, they invest. They always want to be better.
Every year they try to get better. They try to
make moves that will improve the ball club. Well, they
always work. I don't know here the do they but
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they use their best information and make their best decision
based on the facts presented to them. They signed Blake Snell.
You could ask, do they need Blake Snell? Well, you know,
the other teams in Major League Baseball think they don't
need anything. But did they need Blake Snell? Probably not.
Did they want Blake Snell because they believe he's a
guy that can keep them at the top and do
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it for continuous years. Yes, so they invested that. They
invested in Blake Snell. They resigned Tiascar Hernandez. They signed
the Korean second baseman Kim, They signed Michael Confordo. They
traded Gavin Lux. Now they're trying to sign Rookie Sasaki,
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the Japanese right hand He's posted on the fifteenth of
January and let the games begin. No one expects him
to sign on twelve oh one January fifteenth. But he's
got ten days, so things are gonna heat up and
we'll see if it's the Dodgers of the Padres. In
any event, the Dodger of forty man roster is currently
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full and they're gonna have to open a spot on
the roster. So you say, why will they do that? Well,
if they sign Sazaki, they have to open a spot,
right Rodney, Yeah, okay. And if they want to sign
your guy Keith a Hernandez, they have to open a
spot on the roster, right Yepay. That means somebody's out,
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somebody's off the forty man roster. Somebody's got to be traded.
So who are the most viable possibilities to be off
the forty man roster. I'll give you three names. James Outman. Now,
when you look at James Outman, a young guy came
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up played well. You can make the argument went to
the sophomore slump because the way young players work, unless
you are a phenom, you come up usually catch foot
well first, if you come up and you're offl and
that's call mcguel vargus in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He'll tell you what that's like yeah. And it's by
the way, not everybody lights it up when they get
called up either. I mean that's the majority of guys.
It takes a minute. Very few people burst on the
scene like a Cody Bellinger, Corey Seeger, you know some
of the guys that we've seen, you know, Skiings in Pittsburgh.
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I mean, very few guys have that kind of start
as a rookie, right, So if you're that guy, if
you come up as that guy is Skiings, as Cody
Bellinger is Corey Seeger, there is an expectation that you're
going to get them once around, and they're gonna get
you the second time because they've adjusted. And then it
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comes down to how do you adjust correct? All right?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So with James outman, if we look at him as
somebody that we could move, he came up and I
think it's safe to say he made an impression, all right,
Then what happened? Then they got him?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Then what happened?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's his turn and this is when it counts. And
when he came back and it was his turn again,
he really didn't get them. He didn't get them doesn't
mean he won't. We know he's young, so that's James Outman. Well,
he didn't really get the shot though, Fred he got
an early shot.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He got an early shot. He got up a rookie
year in twenty three. He did well. I mean he
was Rookie of the Month a couple of times. He
performed really well. It was a promising outfielder that they
brought in. Yes, he struggled in twenty four, but like
he said, the next year they get you. So this
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should be the year that he gets the opportunity to
get them. Okay, yet he's probably not going to get
that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh no, wait no, no, we haven't moved him yet.
So that's Rodney's assessment. This is his year to get them.
We could trade him. Another guy we could trade is
Mickey Rojas, which I think would cause Mickey Rojas to
have a breakdown because there's nowhere he wants to be
more than right here. He wants to work for the organization.
He should be probably become the first base coach. He
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will be a manager at some points. He will be
a manager, Yeah, a league club. Yeah, he doesn't want
to go anywhere you go. Well, why would they trade him? Okay, Well,
here's a possibility he doesn't really have the versatility I
want him in the line up. I want him in,
but he's going to play shortstop. That's his versatility. He's
going to play shortstop. And I think there are clubs
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in baseball that think, yeah, we could use him. But again,
if you get Mickey, you're getting a guy that's probably
not play in every game because he's gonna get danged up.
All right, we could move him. The last guy we
could move would be Chris Taylor, final year of his deal,
fourteen million bucks. Nobody's gonna eat that whole thing, so
the Dodgers would have to properly carry some of it.
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I don't know if they want to do that or not.
And Chris Taylor, it's really kind of a make it
or break at year for him. Not that his career
will be over, but certainly he's in the final year
of a deal. He's signed a four year deal I
think sixty million dollars and has struggled, and that's not
unfair to say that doesn't mean he'll continue to struggle,
but he has. So this is the final year of
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his deal and he'll certainly have something to prove because
now it comes down to his future paycheck. So if
you look at the three guys we have that are possibilities,
which of those three do you think could get traded?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, if you if you're talking to just those three,
the most I guess tradeable guy is probably James Outman
because he's youngest, he has got, I guess, the bigger
upside at this point, he would be the guy. The
other two, Miggy Row and Chris Taylor, in their mid thirties,
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and so it's really filling a spot I think for
them for a team that says, hey, we just need
we need a backup short stop to relieve so and so.
And Miggy Row he's a good club house guy. He
can he can fill in when we need him to
fill in. He's defensively he's as good as anybody, and
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it's a need where and same thing with Chris Taylor
is like we you know, we're short in terms of
or a team looks at the Dodgers goes the Dodgers
do it the right way. They have multiple guys that
can play multiple positions. We need to start thinking that way.
Let's bring in Chris Taylor because he can play third, short, second,
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any outfield position we need a guy that's versatile like that,
So he has I think he has a market if
somebody really wants or needs, you know, just an extra
body to fill any position on defense. He's created that
for himself. So but at the end of the day,
I think Outman is the UH is the most tradable
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asset that they have.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So that would mean, given what you said, that's the
one guy of the three you'd really want to hold.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Onto because he's the most trainable, right.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right, The most tradable guy is the guy we don't
want to trade, So then it comes down to the
other two. But look at it like this. So now
let's say they signed Sazaki, Well, they they've got open
a place for him. Something's gonna happen there, right. What
if they want k back to something else is gonna
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happen it on the forty man roster.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
In order to sign key K back, somebody's got to go. Well,
right now, that's what we're saying. To get Key K,
somebody's got to go. Now if you bring Sazaki in,
now there's two guys.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Going yeah, and are those position guys or they could
be pitchers too, right, But I don't think i'd move pictures.
You don't move any pictures that are out there right
now that if you're going to bring in, if you're
going to bring in you know, Sazaki, you're not gonna
move a picture. You're gonna move a position guy for Suzaki.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, all right, that's fair, that's fair, and give them
away and that is fair, and give them the way
the Dodgers operated last year. You know, you look up
in the playoffs and who was that guy pitching? Where
did he come from? Oh, he was down in Tulsa
all year. Yeah, but you're in the playoffs and this
guy make it his major league debut because they do that.
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So if you look at it like that, and they've
got guys that come out of nowhere to pitch, yeah,
maybe you do move a picture. Maybe you move one
pitcher and one position player. Maybe that's how you do it. Kevin,
what do you think? Apparently not much?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
No, sorry, do whatever things over here?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, damn Fred gold.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Bloody, I think it would make sense. And by the way,
Invassid brought this up when he came on as well,
Like when you start spring training, everybody who's on the
current forty man roster is not going to take up
a forty man roster spot because you have guys coming
back from injury who aren't ready yet. Do you have
your sixty day injured list, so you're you know, you're
thinking of guys like Gonsolin or may Are those guys
actually going to be ready to go and take up
roster spots at that point in time. Now, as you
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get ready for opening day, that's when the crunch happens
and you figure things out. But at that point in time,
other injuries may pop up. There might be trades that
come down the pipeline. Who saw Gavin Love blowing up
his leg at second base during a spring training game
and that blew up their entire plan, So they don't
necessarily right now have to trade a one for one
when it comes to roster spots, knowing that when the
spring comes around, they'll have spots opened up based on
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the fact that guys will be on the injured list's
to start the season. That's what I think, Fred, Yeah,
that makes sense. I mean, it absolutely does make sense.
Guys coming off injury, guys coming you know, rehab stints,
all that kind of stuff, may not be ready to
go in March, but may be ready to go in May,
but don't. They don't start the season on that forty man,
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you know, so you got to take all of that
into account when you're talking about one or two players
on a roster spot. But no, it's a it's a
it's a it's a tough deal and a tough task
to be able to navigate for the Dodgers because you
got quality guys and and my thing with Biggy row
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since they have they have committed to Mooki playing shortstop.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Now. Granted, Moki had the unfortunate hitting by pitch on
the hand last year that he missed several games. But
when healthy, Mookie is like Freddy, He's not coming out
of the game. He's gonna play every day, right. It's
not like you know a lot of guys, Okay, I
(31:25):
need every third day off, I need every you know
I need, I need my rest and uh. But these
guys Mookie and Freddy are like iron Man. They want
to play every every day and play as many games
as they play they can play. So what does that mean?
Does that mean for a guy like Miggy Rowe? I mean,
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is it It's not like some other teams like I
mentioned that you know, he may play fifty games a year,
sixty games a year because they're the starting shortstop, is
gonna miss or take time off for that manute amount
of time. That's not Mookie. If he's healthy, he's gonna
want to play every day. So Miggey Row does he
(32:07):
fill in at at second base? Okay? Or do you
want Kim to play second base? So you want the
key K to play second base? I mean, where you're
gonna play second base? Where? Where's where's Meggi ro gonna play?
If Mooki is playing pretty much every single day, he's
gonna play a hund Mooki's gonna play one hundred and
forty games this year. Is that enough to keep Maggi
(32:29):
roll there? When you have key K can fill in,
and you have also Chris Taylor that can fill in
at George stop if Mookie happens to be down for
a minute.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I was just thinking to myself when you were talking,
all right, give Muncie a blow and play Meggie Rojas
at third? But why would you do that when you
have Chris Taylor?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, and you have key K? Yeah? I mean where, honestly,
where else can he play? Then?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Where would you put him, there's nowhere to put him,
and that that's hard to say because everybody loves him
and he was a huge part of what went on
in that clubhouse last year. If you remember, I think
it was after the National League Championship. The guy that
spoke first was Mickey Rojas, not Dave Roberts. So they
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leaned in on him from a veteran standpoint, to be
a leader in that clubhouse. You're absolutely right, and he
gives you. He gives you that comfort. He's that comfort
blanket that okay, you know, he's gonna always do the
right thing. He's gonna make every play at shortstop. He
may not give you what you need at the plate,
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but he's gonna be steady. And even though he had
some moments at the plate and perform and had some
big hits, he's not more of he's more thought of
it as a defensive guy. But if you're only gonna
need him for ten to fifteen games to play shortstop,
you got Key k you got Chris Taylor, you got
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Edmund They can come in and play shortstop. I mean,
you got guys that can play shortstop. So does that
make him the odd man out? God, I'm glad I
don't have to make this decision. Seriously, I mean, this
one's I gotta tell you. If you're a Dodger fan,
you hate to lose Gavin Lucks, you do. I mean
he's a homegrown guy. They gave him every opportunity. Yeah,
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that's painful. And if fans don't like to see that,
we don't like to see it. When there's a guy
on the team that you like and has performed for
you and you've bought their jersey, you don't want to
see him traded. I think it'd be harder to lose
Mickey Rojas Rodney, to tell you the truth, Yeah, and
he just got here. I think it would be harder
to lose him because of everything he meant for that team.
(34:47):
Wasn't there a period of time last year? Correct me
if I'm wrong, Kevin, if I'm wrong, you'll correct me.
Every game he got a hit and they won, didn't
had he had a streak. Yeah, he had a streak.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Colin ye who was on the board for every every
single solitary doctor game last year or not in in confirmation, Yeah,
there was some similar streak. Whenever he got to hit,
they generally won games.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That would be a tough one. I'd hate to see
that happen.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, Now, we've talked about the gondola, an awful lot,
the Frank record gondola. Do we need the gondola? Well, maybe,
just maybe somebody's got a better idea than the gondola.
And we talked about this, I don't know a month
or two ago. Well, we have the person on who
has come up with the alternative to the gondola. Next,
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all right, So we're gonna get to that. And NFL
Playoffs begins Saturday, Chargers taking on the Texans in Houston.
The Wildcard pre game Saturday morning, eleven thirty kicks at
one twenty five. Catch the game on either AM five
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
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We have talked about the gondola project. Frank McCourt and
his son want to build a gondola from Union Station
to Dodger Stadium and quite frankly, aside from the fact
that they want to build a gondola, is that the
most effective way to do things? So we talked some
time ago about a young man who had a wonderful idea.
His name is Christian Nalbandian, and Christian came up with
(36:57):
a plan using AI. He's an engineer, to create an
escalator from Chinatown to Dodger Stadium. So the question becomes,
is that a more effective idea and why do we
need it? Christian joins the show now and Christian, welcome
to the program.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I'm more than happy to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay, excited, go good, We're glad to have you.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
People are talking about a gondola leading into Dodger Stadium,
but you have a better plan, don't you.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Well, you know, I was actually looking around on Reddit,
of all places, and I noticed a few people were
talking about a escalator that would connect Dodger Stadium to Chinatown,
similar to how Universal Studios has the escalator, the escalator system.
You know, people love that system in Universal. So I thought,
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why did I put together some renderings, you know, using
AI It takes like two minutes less than that for
how it might look. And I posted on Reddit and
a reporter, Jesse Schwi, she reached out to me and
wanted to do a story about it. And I thought
was really cool because I really think that the escalator
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is a more practical approach to solving some of the
issues that Dodger Stadium has.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ah, okay, let's get into it, man. And and this
is just how your brain works. You saw something on
Reddit and you said, my engineering braids that I can
make that happen. And let's do an escalator like Universal Studios, right,
and where would It's from Chinatown? Right? So we are
we talking like sunset past Vin Scully all the way
up to the stadium.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So there's a there's actually a pedestrian bridge currently over
the one O one that connects from I don't know
the name of the street, but it's the it's the
road that leads straight up to the parking lot at
Dodger Stadium. It connects from that street to Chinatown. It's
a it's a kind of old and uh, you know,
the bridge is the pedestrian bridge is kind of falling apart.
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So my idea would be to connect to the end
of the parking lot with an escalator down the hillside
to that road and have another bridge, create another bridge
or renovate existing bridge down to Chinatown, so then people
would be able to take like a few block walk
from the metro station up the escalator it straight into
Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
You like this idea better than the gondola, right.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, yeah, so funny enough. I was actually in Spain
this past year and I took a gondola. It was
my first time. You're taking a gondola, you know, it's
really cool, you get nice views, but for a thousand
you know, when you're in a stadium where there's thousands
of people, a gondola is not going to work. When
you know you're sitting in a in a little tube
with like maybe less than ten people, and it's really
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slow so you can move thousands of people like that,
it's not practical.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
So the gondola's Outfred, it's what he's saying. Now he's
done with then goland's out. But you make sense, Christian,
You make sense though, gondola like whether you're you know
and like they have them a lot of them in Europe,
or you're on a ski lift and you go there's
most of you can get in there like you said,
it's ten people and that you better have a bunch
of gondolas otherwise you're not gonna move people very fast.
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My thing with the escalators is a lot of times
the escalators go down. You never noticed that when when
you're going somewhere, you're at the airport, or you're somewhere,
and the escalators down, And if it's down halfway from
Chinatown to Dodger Stadium, no, folks, you gotta walk the
rest of the way.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
So I think a good example would be like at
Universal Studios. I don't know how they maintain their elevators
or who does their maintenance, but you if you go,
you rarely find those escalators down, you know, because they
know they need to maintain those escalators or else you're
gonna have people walking thousands of feet down a hill.
(40:59):
You know it's not gonna work. People are not gonna
be happy about that, right question.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Question. Let me ask you this, Why do we need
an escalator from Chinatown?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
So I think my the way I thought about it was,
you know, people were getting upset. I think one of
the worst things about Dodger Stadium is the fact that
once the game ends, people are stuck in a parking
lot for like hours, right, And I just find that
like ridiculous. You go to other stadiums, like even in
San Diego, like Peco Park, people take the trolley, they
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hop off, they hop on, you know, they're not stuck
in a parking lot. And on top of that, you
can make Chinatown kind of like a destination for after
the game, similar to how San Diego is, like people
go to gas Lamp. You can make Chinatown something similar
to that, and it's a fun experience and you'll be
able to connect the you know, growing transit system in
(41:54):
La uh To, you know the metro metro stop in
Chinatown to end the stadium.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Interesting, yeah, and you probably could get the businesses and
the restaurants and that are in Chinatown to pay for it, exactly,
and you drop off everybody off right there and now
you download and spend their money right there in Chinatown exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
It's a great you know, you would want to work
with the businesses now are already there, and you know
they can tweak their businesses a little bit to cater
to the fans. And I just think it would be
like a really fun, cool spot to hang out after
the games.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
So people would have to take public transportation to Chinatown
to jump on the escalator. Right, if you want to
drive yourself.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You could probably still park in the parking lot, and
then if you wanted to go to China Town, you
can take the escalator down. This is just presenting another option,
you know. I feel like a lot of people if
they had this option, if it was easier, they wouldn't drive,
They wouldn't park in the parking lot, you know, and
they you know, parking your expensive one. And people want
to I would say, people in the especially in the
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younger generation, they want to use public transit more and
they want to you know, build.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
On top of that. All right, So who have you
discussed your idea with?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So this is this is a lone wolf. This is
something that I just read about I had. I saw
some comments and I was like, let me, let me
try to put something together that's a little more concrete.
I've talked to some friends. I thought I wanted to
hear what their opinions are, and they they all they
all thought it was a pretty cool and interesting idea.
It's something different, you know. I know, there's like some
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of my friends, for example, have been through Hong Kong,
which has a very robust escalator system throughout their city
because it's a very hilly city. And they told me
when they travel, they thought it was super cool just
to be able to go from one area to the
next just hopping on escalator.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, all right, listen, Christian, from here on out, I'm
your partner. So you and Meir will will talk and
we'll make this happen. Man, we'll make this happen. About
that sounds like a fine.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
It sounds like a fine.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
All right, man. We'll exchange numbers after this. Kevin, make
sure you get that I got some ideas, Christian, I
got some ideas, I know.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, come on, all right, well Christian, Uh, this is
absolutely fascinating. We appreciate you coming on and sharing it
with us and keep us posted if anything happens, of course.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, and hopefully you know, some of the public will
learn about it and maybe want to put something that,
you know, put something forward. I'll get it into reality.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
All right, cool, Christian? Thanks again?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So you want to invest in that, huh? Yeah, yeah,
I think he's got a bright mind. Why not? Why not?
It seems actually seems more hearing him talk about it
seems more practical.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
God, what this guy reads something on Reddit and says,
I can create something. These people have spent one hundred
million dollars try to develop a gondola, and he reads
something and goes, Oh, I can take care of it
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Don't pay me anything. Be honest, though. Can you move
more people with the escalator? Yes, than the gondola? Yes? Godala,
you got people waiting for the next gandola to come around. Correct,
you're on an escalator. It's just continuous going, going, going, going, going,
like a people mover. See. My question was about you
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know it breaking down because I hate when I'm getting
off a plane and you got to go up the
escalator or you're getting on a plane and all of
a sudden it's broke.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
But he's saying that at Universal, rarely are they broke down. Yep, Yeah,
all right, let's get into the NFL. Than he bond
signor will join the program next
All right, here we go, Fred Rugan, Rodney Peene on
a five seventy LA Sports Rodney, how are.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You today a little better than yesterday? Fred? But it's
still going out there, Man, it's still going out there.
In certain areas where I am, it's kind of it's
calm a little bit calm today, but man, I'm still
watching all over southern California, La Area and Pasadena, out
(00:26):
the Diena, Malibu Palisades, all that area, Santa Monica. It's
it's still some tragedies out there and it's still going.
So this thing is not gonna be over anytime soon. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So what I was able to see this morning as
I got up and look at things, the winds have
died down a bit. Yeah, now they've not stopped, and
they're not expected to stop tomorrow afternoon. They say things
should be somewhat better. But even though the winds aren't
blowing as hard as they were, you still must be
(00:59):
hypervigil You have to be. And you know, as we
take a moment here, and we said it yesterday, if
you want up to the minute information about what is
going on, go to KFI. Gary and Channon Aron right now,
they're right up the dial from US at AM six forty.
They are talking about it constantly. So if you're out,
if you're about, if you're worried, if you're concerned about
an area, they'll have that information. They will have it,
(01:21):
and they will have it right up to the minute. Yes,
but as we look at yesterday, you know, I realized
when I got up this morning, I don't think there
is any more Pacific Palisades. If you think about it,
the majority of Pacific Palisades burned. Think about that, the
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majority of it burned. Just consider the horrific nature of
that it burned. In the years I've lived here, Rodney,
I can't remember anything like that happening to a degree
of devastation.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I can't either, I mean I I do. You know, Look,
we live long enough, you see it all and and
fires are a thing in southern California, but usually it's
a it's a summertime thing when the air is dry
and and you get these winds coming and and uh,
you know you're dealing with it in the summer months.
But to have this happen in the in the dead
(02:21):
of winter, I mean, look, we're not a four seasoned state.
But in the dead of winter here in La It's
it's crazy. I've never seen anything like it. And we've
seen fires and I've been I know friends that that
a lot of friends in Malibu that have dealt with
the fires that have happened over there over the years
and close calls and all that kind of stuff, but
nothing comes even close to what we're witnessing. Uh, for
(02:45):
the last few days here, that has engulfed almost basically
the whole city, fred I mean from think about it,
from Malibu to Pasadena out the Dean. That's a that's
a for for people that don't understand people outside of
(03:06):
outside of La didn't. That's that that's a humongous radius
for the fires to be burning at an alarming, alarming rate.
That is crazy. And then last night I was watching
you know, Runyon Canyon and Franklin Canyon and up there
in Hollywood Hills go up in flames. I mean, it's uh,
(03:29):
it's so scary, and you're right, we've not seen anything
like this before.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know how odd it is. Well, look if you
lost your home, I mean, you know what this is like. Unfortunately,
where we're at, Uh, we are okay for the time being.
Studio City got it. Yeah, Studio City got hit, but
not where we're at yet. Fingers crossed and everything will
be okay. But when I saw that footage of Runyon
(03:56):
Canyon last night, and I saw a reporter standing in
front of Running Canyon reporting, for some weird reason, it
struck me, I've been there, you know. I've gone through
that very gate. Yeah, I've gone up that very trail. Yeah,
many times.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I used to live up I used to live up
there in in the Hollywood Hills and used to hike,
used to take my dogs all through Running Canyon on
a regular basis. And to see that, it was that
was scary, scary. And I don't know, you know, the
way some of these things are burning. They were they
(04:35):
were talking earlier about you know, you know, and there's
there's all those towers up on top of those mountains,
all the TV towers and radio towers that are on
top of those mountains, and the access to get there
for the planes and for the helicopters. They were saying,
it's very difficult because the visibility is not great, and
so to drop the the water or sand or whatever
(04:57):
they're dropping to put out the fire, it becomes more
difficult because of the towers that are there that you
can you can have you know there without the visibility,
you can run right into them. So there's a danger
for them to even get the equipment up there too
to put out some of these fires.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I just heard and I actually heard it this morning,
and I guess maybe k if I reported it. Do
you know where a lot of the towers are that
that broadcast the signals of TV and radio stations around
southern California. Mount Wilson, yeahn Mount Wilson is on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah. Yeah, that did knock.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Everybody off the air. And our tower is there in
a second. Yeah, Mount Wilson is on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Now. Yeah, you know you can't.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Go You can't go five minutes without something else happening.
And again, if you want information, please go to KFI.
And also if you're not aware by now, and we
touched on it yesterday and I hope you've done it
or you've heard it watching some news broadcast, Please please
be prepared, no matter where you are, you need that
(06:12):
area with all of your personal information, things that are valuable. Papers,
you need, you know you have them, maybe you don't
know where they're at. You need to find them because
it is good practice. Now, have a to go box,
have a bag, a box, something where you've got your stuff.
(06:32):
So God forbid if you have to go, if there
is a disaster, grab your stuff that you're going to need.
Everything else in the house, that's one thing. But those
papers are things you're gonna desperately need. Have your stuff
put together. Okay, So the Dodger, or I should say,
the Laker game has been postponed tonight against Charlotte. Yes,
(06:53):
and we were kicking this around this morning before they
made the announcement. And you wonder yourself, well, if or
better should they play? Absolutely positively one not that game
should not be played under no circumstances. The King's game
last night postponed, and the reason being, there are more
important things in life than what we do. And we
(07:16):
acknowledge that we talked about this being the toy store yesterday,
and it really is very imposing when real life inserts
itself into the toy store. But we have to understand
that we are diversion and we are an entertainment product,
and people turn to sports for entertainment for a diversion passion, absolutely,
(07:38):
but real life is very different and real life has
inserted itself here. There's no way the Liker should have
played tonight. All do apologies for somebody that does not
live in one of the affected areas and was going
to drive in from Orange County to see Lebron.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Sorry, not tonight. Not tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And even if things are better tonight, and we cross
our fingers and pray they will be. Even if they're better,
the basketball means absolutely nothing at this point in the city.
It will, it will, but not right now. It means nothing.
People have lost their homes, some people don't know what
(08:22):
to do. So it's not time to head on down
to the crypt and catch the Charlotte Hornets in town.
It is a time for all of us to be together,
to stay together, to help each other, to be there
for each other, to comfort each other, not to go
down and watch basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Rodney. No, No, it's definitely not. And I think that
I know they're waiting until the last minute because it
is playoffs and nfls monitoring the situation and that game
with the Rams and the Vikings coming up this weekend,
which is possibly going to move to Arizona on Monday.
(09:06):
I don't know when they make that decision. Fred, you
know obviously, uh, you know, playoffs are huge and you
want you want to play. If you earned a home
field game, you want to play on your home field.
I think that's why they're waiting, probably to the last minute.
But if things continue the way they are today, I
don't see them playing that game at so far. Fred,
(09:29):
I see them moving it to Arizona. You know what,
things are got to be better Monday. Things will be
better Monday. I am going out on a limit saying
things are going to be better Monday. So what is
what does it mean if things they got to make
that they got to make that decision before Monday, right, So,
but I'm probably gonna have to be made tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Let's forecast ahead. Things are going to be better Monday.
All right, let's just forecast.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Let's think if we're making the decision, so it in
theory it will be safe to drive. Our life as
we know it, although will not be the same, but
we'll get back to some sort of normalcy for the
majority of people because a lot of people are affected,
but the majority of people are not, maybe in the periphery,
(10:16):
but not directly. Okay, So now we acknowledge that. So
let's think like the NFL. So we acknowledge we believe
on Monday things will be better. We believe that the
worst will be behind us, and we also acknowledge that
in some way because it's what we must do. We
have to get back to life great. So now we
(10:38):
put that on the table. So now let's look at
what's on the other side of the table. All right,
we may be back to normal, but not everybody will be.
We will be getting on with it, but for a
lot of people, getting on with it will mean what
am I going to do? I have no home, where
(11:00):
am I going to go? What is next for me?
How do I figure this out? That's going to be
normal for them, and those people that are affected, their
families are going to be affected as well, because then
they have to help those people figure out what to do.
(11:22):
So if you're the NFL, I think the question becomes
and I want to say this ahead of time. If
we had Kevin demoff On, I promise you, I swear
to you, you know, he would say, we want to
do what's best, whatever the definition of best is. But
if I'm the NFL, I'm thinking to myself having a
(11:46):
game in Los angeles of that magnitude. A playoff game, Rotteney,
your thousand percent right, A home playoff game, and you
fight all year for those A home playoff game when
sure the worst of it may be over, but the
the lingering residue continues.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think I'd move it. Yeah, I think, I mean,
because you're not. Even though the fires could and hopefully
will be contained by then, you still got to think
about the air quality, right, Yeah, you still gotta think
about the quality of air not only for the players,
(12:29):
but the fans as well going into that stadium. Now.
I know, look, inglewood was not affected like the Palisades,
but that smoke has been all over La. I mean
I can walk outside and still smell it as thick
as anything, and so I just I know it's a
(12:53):
tough call. And if you're a RAM fan or you're
a RAM, you're like, no way. We we As you mentioned,
we fought all year to win our division to get
this home playoff game, and now we got to go
to Arizona. There's already going to be a lot of
Vikings fans in so far coming to this game, and
now you're putting us even more at a disadvantage where
(13:13):
it may not even be close to a home playoff game.
But sometimes, as you mentioned, things are bigger than than sports,
bigger than than you know, things that we think that
that are that are huge without any catastrophes happening. This
is this is major. People have lost their lives and
(13:33):
their homes and their everything they have and where do
you go from here? So to have to move a
football game from la to to Phoenix, that's small in
comparison to what is really going on here in La.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, I just think you have to be considerate the situation.
And again, these are times and Vince Gully said it,
this is the toy store, and we don't like when
we and erupts or jumps into the toy store. But
we have to be mindful of the situation as good
people in the NFL is going to absolutely look into
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what you suggested, Rodney, air quality. What is air quality
going to be like? But I think the way the
NFL works, you played in the league, and you know
a lot of people in the league. You know the commissioner,
you understand their mindset. I think they also try to
be mindful of this the overall situation in a City.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, let's say the air is okay, does that
still make it okay to play that game at Sofi Stadium. Yeah,
it's a pain in the ass, Rams fans.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I understand, Rodney said it. It's true, you've got tickets,
you have to schlep the Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I know, we got it. We understand. It's going to
cost you more money. It sucks.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Done acknowledged, it's in the books. But given the situation
here in fact, that game has moved. I'll tell you
one thing. It's going to cost the people that lost
their homes and a majority of every possession, they have
a hell of a lot more money.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Than it's going to cost you to drive to Phoenix.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I also will say sometimes
and that's it is the beauty of sports. Sometimes it
brings people together after a tragedy, and excuse me, a
lot of times it brings people together. I remember, you know, distinctly,
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after nine to eleven and they canceled, They canceled all
the sports canceled. Football and baseball was was getting ready
to go, heading into the into the playoffs, and it
was playoff pushes for everybody, and they resumed playing, and
they played that game. The Yankees played right, and I
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remember Bush throughout the pitch, you know, and through a strike,
and that just energized the whole country. And I believe
Piazza hit a home run earlier, you know, for the Mets,
you know, right after that as well, right after they
started resuming playing baseball. I remember, after the tragedy in
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Thousand Oaks, you know, the game that was in Mexico
City got canceled and brought back to the Coliseum and
that place was packed and it was the Chiefs versus
the Rams, and it was one of the best games
that the NFL's ever had. Jared Golf and Patrick Mahomes
put on a show that night, and I can remember
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the stadium just being electric and for a moment, for
a moment of three and a half hours, people's minds
were off of that tragedy that happened in Thousand Oaks,
you know, and that was awful, and it was awful,
and the Rams being out there did I'm believable, well
unbelievable job community, you know, connecting with the community, and
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that whole tragedy was just awful, awful. But I remember
people coming together, people hugging each other in the stands
before the game even started, just happy to be there.
So sometimes sports can take your mind off some of
the things that are going on and and bring people together.
And so I think the also the NFL is looking
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into that, is this going to this could be a
good thing for LA considering what they're going through, They're.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Going to play. Yeah, it's just a question of where,
just a question of where. And no matter where, that decision,
what that decision comes down to, be mindful.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Of what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If it's here, if they play, it's so fine. Fine,
If they play in Phoenix, okay. And and people will
aside from those affected by this, for that three hour period,
we'll have something else to think about. But the people
affected by it will still be thinking about what happened
to them. So, however it plays out, be it here
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or if you have to drive to Phoenix, just appreciate
that you were lucky enough not to be affected and
don't lose sight or track of those that were. All right,
So Gavin Lux is going, But should the Dodgers make
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another train, and if they do, who will it be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We'll talk about it next Uh huh, let's go on
a throwback Thursday, January ninth. Boy, it's already flying by.
Stay safe out there, peoples, Please right to be Fred Rogan.
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Let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It hurts when we lose people we like, but we
know sports is a business and sometimes you have to
make moves because every year, and we've said this, so
you know you won the championship last year, that's terrific.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You see some teams win a title and then they
rest on their laurels. There are teams that actually make
the playoffs, and Rodney played on one of them. And
when they made the playoffs and got everybody excited, they
didn't reinvest the next year. As a matter of fact,
they made other moves because they figured they'd bought themselves
some goodwill. And there are a number of franchises in
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professional sports and the people that own them that make
decisions like that. You know, we're good for the next
four years. Now we sell hope and sure we had
a hell of a run, came up short, or maybe
even won it, but now we have bought ourself goodwill
and we're fine.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We're good. We'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
We don't really want to reinvest much because now it's
our turn to make some money. Dodgers don't function that way.
If they don't want it, they invest. If they do
want it, they invest. They always want to be better.
Every year they try to get better. They try to
make moves that will improve the ball club. Well, they
always work. I don't know here the do they but
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they use their best information and make their best decision
based on the facts presented to them. They signed Blake Snell.
You could ask, do they need Blake Snell? Well, you know,
the other teams in Major League Baseball think they don't
need anything. But did they need Blake Snell? Probably not.
Did they want Blake Snell because they believe he's a
guy that can keep them at the top and do
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it for continuous years. Yes, so they invested that. They
invested in Blake Snell. They resigned Tiascar Hernandez. They signed
the Korean second baseman Kim, They signed Michael Confordo. They
traded Gavin Lux. Now they're trying to sign Rookie Sasaki,
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the Japanese right hand He's posted on the fifteenth of
January and let the games begin. No one expects him
to sign on twelve oh one January fifteenth. But he's
got ten days, so things are gonna heat up and
we'll see if it's the Dodgers of the Padres. In
any event, the Dodger of forty man roster is currently
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full and they're gonna have to open a spot on
the roster. So you say, why will they do that? Well,
if they sign Sazaki, they have to open a spot,
right Rodney, Yeah, okay. And if they want to sign
your guy Keith a Hernandez, they have to open a
spot on the roster, right Yepay. That means somebody's out,
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somebody's off the forty man roster. Somebody's got to be traded.
So who are the most viable possibilities to be off
the forty man roster. I'll give you three names. James Outman. Now,
when you look at James Outman, a young guy came
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up played well. You can make the argument went to
the sophomore slump because the way young players work, unless
you are a phenom, you come up usually catch foot
well first, if you come up and you're offl and
that's call mcguel vargus in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He'll tell you what that's like yeah. And it's by
the way, not everybody lights it up when they get
called up either. I mean that's the majority of guys.
It takes a minute. Very few people burst on the
scene like a Cody Bellinger, Corey Seeger, you know some
of the guys that we've seen, you know, Skiings in Pittsburgh.
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I mean, very few guys have that kind of start
as a rookie, right, So if you're that guy, if
you come up as that guy is Skiings, as Cody
Bellinger is Corey Seeger, there is an expectation that you're
going to get them once around, and they're gonna get
you the second time because they've adjusted. And then it
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comes down to how do you adjust correct? All right?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So with James outman, if we look at him as
somebody that we could move, he came up and I
think it's safe to say he made an impression, all right,
Then what happened? Then they got him?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Then what happened?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's his turn and this is when it counts. And
when he came back and it was his turn again,
he really didn't get them. He didn't get them doesn't
mean he won't. We know he's young, so that's James Outman. Well,
he didn't really get the shot though, Fred he got
an early shot.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He got an early shot. He got up a rookie
year in twenty three. He did well. I mean he
was Rookie of the Month a couple of times. He
performed really well. It was a promising outfielder that they
brought in. Yes, he struggled in twenty four, but like
he said, the next year they get you. So this
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should be the year that he gets the opportunity to
get them. Okay, yet he's probably not going to get
that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh no, wait no, no, we haven't moved him yet.
So that's Rodney's assessment. This is his year to get them.
We could trade him. Another guy we could trade is
Mickey Rojas, which I think would cause Mickey Rojas to
have a breakdown because there's nowhere he wants to be
more than right here. He wants to work for the organization.
He should be probably become the first base coach. He
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will be a manager at some points. He will be
a manager, Yeah, a league club. Yeah, he doesn't want
to go anywhere you go. Well, why would they trade him? Okay, Well,
here's a possibility he doesn't really have the versatility I
want him in the line up. I want him in,
but he's going to play shortstop. That's his versatility. He's
going to play shortstop. And I think there are clubs
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in baseball that think, yeah, we could use him. But again,
if you get Mickey, you're getting a guy that's probably
not play in every game because he's gonna get danged up.
All right, we could move him. The last guy we
could move would be Chris Taylor, final year of his deal,
fourteen million bucks. Nobody's gonna eat that whole thing, so
the Dodgers would have to properly carry some of it.
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I don't know if they want to do that or not.
And Chris Taylor, it's really kind of a make it
or break at year for him. Not that his career
will be over, but certainly he's in the final year
of a deal. He's signed a four year deal I
think sixty million dollars and has struggled, and that's not
unfair to say that doesn't mean he'll continue to struggle,
but he has. So this is the final year of
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his deal and he'll certainly have something to prove because
now it comes down to his future paycheck. So if
you look at the three guys we have that are possibilities,
which of those three do you think could get traded?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, if you if you're talking to just those three,
the most I guess tradeable guy is probably James Outman
because he's youngest, he has got, I guess, the bigger
upside at this point, he would be the guy. The
other two, Miggy Row and Chris Taylor, in their mid thirties,
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and so it's really filling a spot I think for
them for a team that says, hey, we just need
we need a backup short stop to relieve so and so.
And Miggy Row he's a good club house guy. He
can he can fill in when we need him to
fill in. He's defensively he's as good as anybody, and
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it's a need where and same thing with Chris Taylor
is like we you know, we're short in terms of
or a team looks at the Dodgers goes the Dodgers
do it the right way. They have multiple guys that
can play multiple positions. We need to start thinking that way.
Let's bring in Chris Taylor because he can play third, short, second,
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any outfield position we need a guy that's versatile like that,
So he has I think he has a market if
somebody really wants or needs, you know, just an extra
body to fill any position on defense. He's created that
for himself. So but at the end of the day,
I think Outman is the UH is the most tradable
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asset that they have.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So that would mean, given what you said, that's the
one guy of the three you'd really want to hold.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Onto because he's the most trainable, right.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right, The most tradable guy is the guy we don't
want to trade, So then it comes down to the
other two. But look at it like this. So now
let's say they signed Sazaki, Well, they they've got open
a place for him. Something's gonna happen there, right. What
if they want k back to something else is gonna
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happen it on the forty man roster.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
In order to sign key K back, somebody's got to go. Well,
right now, that's what we're saying. To get Key K,
somebody's got to go. Now if you bring Sazaki in,
now there's two guys.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Going yeah, and are those position guys or they could
be pitchers too, right, But I don't think i'd move pictures.
You don't move any pictures that are out there right
now that if you're going to bring in, if you're
going to bring in you know, Sazaki, you're not gonna
move a picture. You're gonna move a position guy for Suzaki.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, all right, that's fair, that's fair, and give them
away and that is fair, and give them the way
the Dodgers operated last year. You know, you look up
in the playoffs and who was that guy pitching? Where
did he come from? Oh, he was down in Tulsa
all year. Yeah, but you're in the playoffs and this
guy make it his major league debut because they do that.
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So if you look at it like that, and they've
got guys that come out of nowhere to pitch, yeah,
maybe you do move a picture. Maybe you move one
pitcher and one position player. Maybe that's how you do it. Kevin,
what do you think? Apparently not much?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
No, sorry, do whatever things over here?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, damn Fred gold.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Bloody, I think it would make sense. And by the way,
Invassid brought this up when he came on as well,
Like when you start spring training, everybody who's on the
current forty man roster is not going to take up
a forty man roster spot because you have guys coming
back from injury who aren't ready yet. Do you have
your sixty day injured list, so you're you know, you're
thinking of guys like Gonsolin or may Are those guys
actually going to be ready to go and take up
roster spots at that point in time. Now, as you
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get ready for opening day, that's when the crunch happens
and you figure things out. But at that point in time,
other injuries may pop up. There might be trades that
come down the pipeline. Who saw Gavin Love blowing up
his leg at second base during a spring training game
and that blew up their entire plan, So they don't
necessarily right now have to trade a one for one
when it comes to roster spots, knowing that when the
spring comes around, they'll have spots opened up based on
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the fact that guys will be on the injured list's
to start the season. That's what I think, Fred, Yeah,
that makes sense. I mean, it absolutely does make sense.
Guys coming off injury, guys coming you know, rehab stints,
all that kind of stuff, may not be ready to
go in March, but may be ready to go in May,
but don't. They don't start the season on that forty man,
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you know, so you got to take all of that
into account when you're talking about one or two players
on a roster spot. But no, it's a it's a
it's a it's a tough deal and a tough task
to be able to navigate for the Dodgers because you
got quality guys and and my thing with Biggy row
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since they have they have committed to Mooki playing shortstop.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Now. Granted, Moki had the unfortunate hitting by pitch on
the hand last year that he missed several games. But
when healthy, Mookie is like Freddy, He's not coming out
of the game. He's gonna play every day, right. It's
not like you know a lot of guys, Okay, I
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need every third day off, I need every you know
I need, I need my rest and uh. But these
guys Mookie and Freddy are like iron Man. They want
to play every every day and play as many games
as they play they can play. So what does that mean?
Does that mean for a guy like Miggy Rowe? I mean,
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is it It's not like some other teams like I
mentioned that you know, he may play fifty games a year,
sixty games a year because they're the starting shortstop, is
gonna miss or take time off for that manute amount
of time. That's not Mookie. If he's healthy, he's gonna
want to play every day. So Miggey Row does he
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fill in at at second base? Okay? Or do you
want Kim to play second base? So you want the
key K to play second base? I mean, where you're
gonna play second base? Where? Where's where's Meggi ro gonna play?
If Mooki is playing pretty much every single day, he's
gonna play a hund Mooki's gonna play one hundred and
forty games this year. Is that enough to keep Maggi
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roll there? When you have key K can fill in,
and you have also Chris Taylor that can fill in
at George stop if Mookie happens to be down for
a minute.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I was just thinking to myself when you were talking,
all right, give Muncie a blow and play Meggie Rojas
at third? But why would you do that when you
have Chris Taylor?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, and you have key K? Yeah? I mean where, honestly,
where else can he play? Then?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Where would you put him, there's nowhere to put him,
and that that's hard to say because everybody loves him
and he was a huge part of what went on
in that clubhouse last year. If you remember, I think
it was after the National League Championship. The guy that
spoke first was Mickey Rojas, not Dave Roberts. So they
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leaned in on him from a veteran standpoint, to be
a leader in that clubhouse. You're absolutely right, and he
gives you. He gives you that comfort. He's that comfort
blanket that okay, you know, he's gonna always do the
right thing. He's gonna make every play at shortstop. He
may not give you what you need at the plate,
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but he's gonna be steady. And even though he had
some moments at the plate and perform and had some
big hits, he's not more of he's more thought of
it as a defensive guy. But if you're only gonna
need him for ten to fifteen games to play shortstop,
you got Key k you got Chris Taylor, you got
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Edmund They can come in and play shortstop. I mean,
you got guys that can play shortstop. So does that
make him the odd man out? God, I'm glad I
don't have to make this decision. Seriously, I mean, this
one's I gotta tell you. If you're a Dodger fan,
you hate to lose Gavin Lucks, you do. I mean
he's a homegrown guy. They gave him every opportunity. Yeah,
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that's painful. And if fans don't like to see that,
we don't like to see it. When there's a guy
on the team that you like and has performed for
you and you've bought their jersey, you don't want to
see him traded. I think it'd be harder to lose
Mickey Rojas Rodney, to tell you the truth, Yeah, and
he just got here. I think it would be harder
to lose him because of everything he meant for that team.
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Wasn't there a period of time last year? Correct me
if I'm wrong, Kevin, if I'm wrong, you'll correct me.
Every game he got a hit and they won, didn't
had he had a streak. Yeah, he had a streak.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Colin ye who was on the board for every every
single solitary doctor game last year or not in in confirmation, Yeah,
there was some similar streak. Whenever he got to hit,
they generally won games.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That would be a tough one. I'd hate to see
that happen.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, Now, we've talked about the gondola, an awful lot,
the Frank record gondola. Do we need the gondola? Well, maybe,
just maybe somebody's got a better idea than the gondola.
And we talked about this, I don't know a month
or two ago. Well, we have the person on who
has come up with the alternative to the gondola. Next,
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all right, So we're gonna get to that. And NFL
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The Wildcard pre game Saturday morning, eleven thirty kicks at
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
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Speaker 1 (36:10):
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We have talked about the gondola project. Frank McCourt and
his son want to build a gondola from Union Station
to Dodger Stadium and quite frankly, aside from the fact
that they want to build a gondola, is that the
most effective way to do things? So we talked some
time ago about a young man who had a wonderful idea.
His name is Christian Nalbandian, and Christian came up with
(36:57):
a plan using AI. He's an engineer, to create an
escalator from Chinatown to Dodger Stadium. So the question becomes,
is that a more effective idea and why do we
need it? Christian joins the show now and Christian, welcome
to the program.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I'm more than happy to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay, excited, go good, We're glad to have you.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
People are talking about a gondola leading into Dodger Stadium,
but you have a better plan, don't you.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Well, you know, I was actually looking around on Reddit,
of all places, and I noticed a few people were
talking about a escalator that would connect Dodger Stadium to Chinatown,
similar to how Universal Studios has the escalator, the escalator system.
You know, people love that system in Universal. So I thought,
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why did I put together some renderings, you know, using
AI It takes like two minutes less than that for
how it might look. And I posted on Reddit and
a reporter, Jesse Schwi, she reached out to me and
wanted to do a story about it. And I thought
was really cool because I really think that the escalator
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is a more practical approach to solving some of the
issues that Dodger Stadium has.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ah, okay, let's get into it, man. And and this
is just how your brain works. You saw something on
Reddit and you said, my engineering braids that I can
make that happen. And let's do an escalator like Universal Studios, right,
and where would It's from Chinatown? Right? So we are
we talking like sunset past Vin Scully all the way
up to the stadium.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So there's a there's actually a pedestrian bridge currently over
the one O one that connects from I don't know
the name of the street, but it's the it's the
road that leads straight up to the parking lot at
Dodger Stadium. It connects from that street to Chinatown. It's
a it's a kind of old and uh, you know,
the bridge is the pedestrian bridge is kind of falling apart.
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So my idea would be to connect to the end
of the parking lot with an escalator down the hillside
to that road and have another bridge, create another bridge
or renovate existing bridge down to Chinatown, so then people
would be able to take like a few block walk
from the metro station up the escalator it straight into
Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
You like this idea better than the gondola, right.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, yeah, so funny enough. I was actually in Spain
this past year and I took a gondola. It was
my first time. You're taking a gondola, you know, it's
really cool, you get nice views, but for a thousand
you know, when you're in a stadium where there's thousands
of people, a gondola is not going to work. When
you know you're sitting in a in a little tube
with like maybe less than ten people, and it's really
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slow so you can move thousands of people like that,
it's not practical.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
So the gondola's Outfred, it's what he's saying. Now he's
done with then goland's out. But you make sense, Christian,
You make sense though, gondola like whether you're you know
and like they have them a lot of them in Europe,
or you're on a ski lift and you go there's
most of you can get in there like you said,
it's ten people and that you better have a bunch
of gondolas otherwise you're not gonna move people very fast.
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My thing with the escalators is a lot of times
the escalators go down. You never noticed that when when
you're going somewhere, you're at the airport, or you're somewhere,
and the escalators down, And if it's down halfway from
Chinatown to Dodger Stadium, no, folks, you gotta walk the
rest of the way.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
So I think a good example would be like at
Universal Studios. I don't know how they maintain their elevators
or who does their maintenance, but you if you go,
you rarely find those escalators down, you know, because they
know they need to maintain those escalators or else you're
gonna have people walking thousands of feet down a hill.
(40:59):
You know it's not gonna work. People are not gonna
be happy about that, right question.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Question. Let me ask you this, Why do we need
an escalator from Chinatown?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
So I think my the way I thought about it was,
you know, people were getting upset. I think one of
the worst things about Dodger Stadium is the fact that
once the game ends, people are stuck in a parking
lot for like hours, right, And I just find that
like ridiculous. You go to other stadiums, like even in
San Diego, like Peco Park, people take the trolley, they
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hop off, they hop on, you know, they're not stuck
in a parking lot. And on top of that, you
can make Chinatown kind of like a destination for after
the game, similar to how San Diego is, like people
go to gas Lamp. You can make Chinatown something similar
to that, and it's a fun experience and you'll be
able to connect the you know, growing transit system in
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La uh To, you know the metro metro stop in
Chinatown to end the stadium.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Interesting, yeah, and you probably could get the businesses and
the restaurants and that are in Chinatown to pay for it, exactly,
and you drop off everybody off right there and now
you download and spend their money right there in Chinatown exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
It's a great you know, you would want to work
with the businesses now are already there, and you know
they can tweak their businesses a little bit to cater
to the fans. And I just think it would be
like a really fun, cool spot to hang out after
the games.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
So people would have to take public transportation to Chinatown
to jump on the escalator. Right, if you want to
drive yourself.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You could probably still park in the parking lot, and
then if you wanted to go to China Town, you
can take the escalator down. This is just presenting another option,
you know. I feel like a lot of people if
they had this option, if it was easier, they wouldn't drive,
They wouldn't park in the parking lot, you know, and
they you know, parking your expensive one. And people want
to I would say, people in the especially in the
(43:02):
younger generation, they want to use public transit more and
they want to you know, build.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
On top of that. All right, So who have you
discussed your idea with?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So this is this is a lone wolf. This is
something that I just read about I had. I saw
some comments and I was like, let me, let me
try to put something together that's a little more concrete.
I've talked to some friends. I thought I wanted to
hear what their opinions are, and they they all they
all thought it was a pretty cool and interesting idea.
It's something different, you know. I know, there's like some
(43:37):
of my friends, for example, have been through Hong Kong,
which has a very robust escalator system throughout their city
because it's a very hilly city. And they told me
when they travel, they thought it was super cool just
to be able to go from one area to the
next just hopping on escalator.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, all right, listen, Christian, from here on out, I'm
your partner. So you and Meir will will talk and
we'll make this happen. Man, we'll make this happen. About
that sounds like a fine.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
It sounds like a fine.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
All right, man. We'll exchange numbers after this. Kevin, make
sure you get that I got some ideas, Christian, I
got some ideas, I know.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, come on, all right, well Christian, Uh, this is
absolutely fascinating. We appreciate you coming on and sharing it
with us and keep us posted if anything happens, of course.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, and hopefully you know, some of the public will
learn about it and maybe want to put something that,
you know, put something forward. I'll get it into reality.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
All right, cool, Christian? Thanks again?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So you want to invest in that, huh? Yeah, yeah,
I think he's got a bright mind. Why not? Why not?
It seems actually seems more hearing him talk about it
seems more practical.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
God, what this guy reads something on Reddit and says,
I can create something. These people have spent one hundred
million dollars try to develop a gondola, and he reads
something and goes, Oh, I can take care of it
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Don't pay me anything. Be honest, though. Can you move
more people with the escalator? Yes, than the gondola? Yes? Godala,
you got people waiting for the next gandola to come around. Correct,
you're on an escalator. It's just continuous going, going, going, going, going,
like a people mover. See. My question was about you
(45:34):
know it breaking down because I hate when I'm getting
off a plane and you got to go up the
escalator or you're getting on a plane and all of
a sudden it's broke.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
But he's saying that at Universal, rarely are they broke down. Yep, Yeah,
all right, let's get into the NFL. Than he bond
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