February 3, 2025 • 44 mins
In the dead of night the Lakers traded Anthony Davis to Dallas for Luka Doncic in a move that put the entire sports world in shock. What does this mean for the future of the Lakers and Lebron James? We hear from Laker fans as they voice their opinion on the move. Brandon Gomes and Andrew Friedman say that the door is open for Kike' Hernandez to return.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Happy Monday. Fred Rogan and
Rodney Pete on a five to seventy LA Sports. Kind
of a slow, quiet weekend, wouldn't you say, Rodney? Yeah, yeah,
not a lot happened.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
You think it's uh, you know in between you know,
the NFC and AFC championship game in the NFL, so
in the Super Bowl's coming up this week, So this
past weekend was going to be the slow, slow weekend,
nothing happening. Nobody wants to watch the Pro Bowl, right,
nobody wants to watch that anymore. So what are you
watching college basketball?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Mid season? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I did watch the USC women's versus Iowa basketball game
and US came up on the short end of that
but fought hard. But yeah, nothing really happening over the weekend, Fred,
Not so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
When the news broke that the Lakers are acquired Luka Doncic,
you had to believe that that wasn't real.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
First, I'll know, there's no way this happened. This cannot
have happened, right.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yes you do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But there's certain guys, and he's he's put himself in
the mix that when you hear something come from them,
then there's some validity to it. You know, Ryan went
Horse was the guy that just he just retired because
the hell Woes, Yes, Woes would say something. You know,
(01:20):
it was a Woes bomb, right, you knew it was.
You knew it was something to it and something real.
And now Shams, I mean when he says something, he's
dialed in enough that you know is happening. Adam Schefter
in football, you know, I mean Jay Glazer in football.
You know, when those guys say something, they talked, they
got they got deep throats everywhere, so you know, they
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talked to the right people. So when he when he did,
even though it was Shamps, I was like, no, this
can't be real. He's jumping the gun on this. He's
jumping the gun. We've never seen anything like this. Superstar
for Superstar, We've not seen anything like that. No, my
son was the first one that shot it to me.
D you see what happened, And he, you know, head,
(02:00):
he's a big Laker fan. He believed as soon as
it happened. You see what happened. We just got Luca.
We just got Luca saying no, that's this, you know,
come on, that's not happening. You know, we would have,
we would have heard the rumors before that, and sure
enough it's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So, uh, Luca's father spoke to Serbian media and I
gave an interview, and the first thing he said is
he's very disappointed because of the secrecy, the secrecy in
the deal and that nobody knew what was going on,
including the players involved. That's hard to do twenty twenty five,
that's very difficult to do. But somehow they pulled it off.
(02:39):
So let's think about this for a second.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
My first thought when I heard about that because when
Eric Dickerson was playing for the Rams and all of
a sudden he was in Indianapolis and dick Enberg, the
late Great dick Enberg said, you can never let the
greats go. You can never do that. Yeah, there are
good players, and there are great players. There are transcendent players.
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Luk at Donchas is one of them. You can never
let them go. So when the MAVs pulled the trigger
on this deal, the first thing I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Is who did he piss off?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean, you've got to have done something pretty awful
for them to go. You're done, So why specially especially
at twenty five years old.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
For the Lakers, Rob Pulinka just got himself five more
years as the general manager.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
No problem, he did.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And by the way, it doesn't matter what happens with
the Lakers this year, win, lose, tied. It's irrelevant because
now the future is here and everything will be focused
on that. But anyway, the problem was, and Mike Curtis
of the Dallas Morning News is going to join us
during the one o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He's on it all day long. He's our beat writer.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Problem was a Luka Doncics was out of shape, didn't
take care of himself, suffered some injuries, has a calf
issue now and the Mavericks talk to him about conditioning.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
In the past.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He is a big boy, but apparently he was not
taking care of himself. So then you had a situation
where they could offer him a supermax deal for like
three hundred and forty five million dollars, and they probably
looked at each other and said, Okay, we got a
guy that we've talked to that is not taken care
of himself, that may not be as available as we
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would like because he is not taking care of himself.
Do we really want to invest three hundred and forty
five million dollars in that guy, because that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
When you've spent that money, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And I think they all looked at each other and said, no,
we're joining the line in the sand right now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We're going to draw the line. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We could lose him as a free agent as well,
we're not going to play that game. We'll move him
right now, and we'll move him for a player that
we hope is going to make us better long term.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Uh, this move for the Mavericks is not something that
they think, well in five years and five years they'll
be dead.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, this is a right now move for the map.
This is it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We're in Kyrie, who turned out to be a good
move for them. Klay Thompson obviously he's got this year,
maybe one one more after this for for the role
that they want him to play. So this is this
is a two year window for the Mavericks right now,
and and and they looked at it. We've got arguably
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the best Defaull definitely the depth, the I think the
best defensive big man in the game. I think he's
better than Rudy Gobert to be honest with you and
and we want to win right now. But what does
that say about Luca? Because if you poll people and
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I'm ask you, Fred, would you say he is top
four players in the league at least, or if not
top three, maybe top three Rodney, Yeah, top three player
in the league. I'll give you that, top three player
in the league right now. And how do you not
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build on a twenty five year old that's got that
kind of experience in the league right now? And it
has to be what you just mentioned, him not committed
to being in shape. We've seen it before with different guys.
I just heard something that you know earlier today when
everybody's talking about this, they said, take, for instance, Shake
Gilds Alexander. OK, so he cannot wait to get that
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paperwork in front of him that had let him sign
that supermax. They will be waiting on his doorstep soon
as that date is available for him to sign that thing,
for him to come back and sign the super max
and be with them, because he is committed on and
off the court.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I don't think they believe that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think it's it's it speaks volumes of how an
organization is trying to take the power back. It's like,
I don't care how great you are, you got to
be committed to this and you can't come in out
of shape, you know, cause it's gonna lead to you
being hurt every single year.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And we got to be able to count on you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And so if you're not willing to put into work
in the off season, be committed to it, We're not
going to commit to you. And it was a clear
example of that, and they got rid of them. I
thought it was it was shrewd. It was a gamble. Obviously,
his fans in Dallas hate it. They pickt it outside
the arena. But I think it was a clear case
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of the of the Mavericks going and probably have warned
him over the years, Hey, you got to pick it up.
You got to start being a pro. You know, if
you're gonna be the face of our franchise, we need
you to lead by example too. You know, you got
to be Lebron in the gym. You got to be
Kobe in the gym and showing up in and not
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being out of shape when you come to training camp.
So the first two months of the season, we're gonna
lose you to lose it to little nagging injuries.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Can't be that guy, and they got rid of him.
And what is this an enormous wake up call? Now
he could have been sent to a lot of places.
He got sent here, which is you know this just
Rob Polinka opened the door and who was sitting there?
Luka doncics. He goes, I'm here, Well, come on in.
Because that's basically what happened. The MAVs called one team.
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Nico Harrison and Rob Polinka knew each other from the
days when uh Nico worked for Nike and Rob Wood
Kobe's agent. They had a relationship. They started kicking this around.
They just they thought and looked at each other and
said what if? And then it became so this was
like a blessing for the Lakers, a wake up call
for Luca and probably a wake up call that he
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would not have adhered to if he stayed in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't well, he said that. We'll get into that.
I don't know if it's a wake up call for
the Lake. I mean that blessing for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know. We'll talk about it, but let's just
get into the story. Okay. But well, now you've piqued
my interest.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, just for the reason we just talked about, you know,
that was the criticism of Anthony Davis until I mean,
he's going to the abdominal strain now. But from the
day Anthony Davis first got here is he was always hurt.
They called him mister street clothes. Charles Barkley did. And
but I will give him credit. He changed something up
in the last couple of years where he was more
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available and he was playing at a high level and
was on the court more often than he had been
in the last in the previous two years. So he
had he got a wake up call by being here
and everybody calling him out by not being in shape,
changing his diet, changing his workout program, and he did that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are we going to run into the same thing with
Luca when he gets here.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's that's my concern is will him being around Lebron
be enough to learn how how to work out, stay
in shape and take care of your body like you
need to be a professional athlete nowadays.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Or will the simple fact that somebody said we don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You be enough true? That could be a total.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Fact that you know what, you're not all that we
can lose with you and we can lose without you.
So the wake up call factor right there, you go,
Thanks for playing and goodbye. But for the Lakers, this
is a godsend and the reason it is is because
of the way they have always operated. Who's that star,
who's that guy? Because that's how the bus families always
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looked at it. We have stars. Well, now you've got
one of the biggest in the NBA. Take Lebron out
of the equation for a second. Yeah, Luka, Doncic. Let's
think about big guys that Laker fans remember who came
by trade, who was a free agent.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And who was drafted.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, in sixty eight, that was a massive deal and
many of the people listening right now.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Would not understand and how big that was.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Will Chamberlain Jack Kent Cook traded for Wilt Chamberlain traded
with Philadelphia and gave him two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, which was more than Jerry westmade. By
the way, Will Chamberlain was a huge move.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was raining NBA MVP, right, the raining MVP, and
they traded different time, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Seventy five Lakers acquired Kareem from Milwaukee and I remember
all too well, when Kareem went to Milwaukee, the Bucks
and the Suns were an expansion franchise. They flipped that coin.
I was living in Phoenix and the Bucks got him.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Bucks got him, Bucks got it, and he got him
a championship in what two years?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, but they traded for Kareem. Let's just think of
the big guys over the years. Wilt, Kareem Magic, drafted,
Shack Signers, a free age, Kobe a draft, Knight trade
with Charlotte Blood a Devox went to the Hornets, Lebron
was a free agent, and now Luca was acquired by trade.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Listen to those.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Names, and especially if you are not old enough to
remember the Wilt Chamberlain days. Paul Gasol and that fell
into the Lakers lap. M that one fell into their
lap as well. But Pile came because Kobe needed help.
But look at the name, told him too well. But
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they sent Marcus all over and yeah, but now listen
to the names. Look at the names I just read.
Those are the people that put people in the seats.
Those are the players that people showed up to see. Well,
Kareem Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, and now Luca they've got
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their guy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
They've got the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
They've got the guy to put people in the seats,
and they've got a guy that you could argue top
three in the league. That's what this trade did for
the Lakers. It also buys them an enormous amount of
goodwill and time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, well they got their guy now for the next
what seven to ten years?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, so it's not the right time.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well we sit here and worry about, oh, are they
going to make another deal the trade deadline? Can they
win it this year? I'm telling you, And if you're
a Laker fan you think Luca is enough to win it,
it's not. But moreover, it doesn't matter. Now they've got
their guy and they're going to start. They're going to
figure out a way to put this together. Hopefully they
get a big here at the trade deadline, somebody to
play a little interior defense for the Anthony Davis gone,
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but they override.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The more active though. You think this makes them more active.
Now that's the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Now that they got Luca and they're trying to somewhat
make a push that they're going to be more active
than they would have been if they didn't make that trade.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but I think now out of necessity, they have
to get somebody big. Now necessity they have to somebody serviceable,
get him in there, and really it's not going to
make that much of a difference this year, but going
forward they've got the guy. It's no longer Lebron an ad.
(14:21):
I really think now hopefully Lebron wears off on Luca,
but now it's Luca, and that's how Laker fans will
look at it. Hopefully Lebron Luca will listen to Lebron,
pick up some of his habits, his work ethic.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And learn from him.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But how do you think they play together? Not well
well enough. It doesn't feel like the fit, like the
Anthony Davis Lebron great fit, great fit. The way they
play in different positions, in the way they play together,
Luca and Lebron. As we've said oftentimes when we've talked
about diferent players come to the Lakers or being on
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a specific team, you know, there are two guys that
need to be ball dominant.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, they're not gonna it's not gonna be great, but
it's he's here. Now, he's here, and you know, now
it's on Lebron Lebron has a player option at the
end of the year, does he pick it up? He
said he doesn't want to be traded. I don't think
they can win a title together because they're making a
lot of money and the Lakers need help and maybe
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Lebron says after this year, when looking at the whole thing,
I want to go win. Well, what has happened is
they've reloaded. We've talked about what happens when Ad and
Lebron are gone, then you have to rebuild. Well, they
don't have to rebuild anymore. Now they have to reload.
They've already got the guy, they have the new guy,
and now it's surrounding him going forward, there's not going
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to be.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
How do they really really the only way they reload
is find a way to trade Lebron.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well, eventually you'll get there a.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Bunch of picks and get you know, as you know,
a couple of players. But Lebron's got the no trade
clause in it, and as he's aging is his value
continues to go down. Mm hmm, right, So how how
do they reload around uh, you know, around around Luca.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, Lebron has a player option, so he can play
one more year. But Lebron may look at it like this, Yeah,
I want to go where I can win again.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'm a win now guy. I want to win now.
So and in the NBA, you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Know, aside from this deal, uh, the stars pretty much
dictate where they end up. So I'd like to go
here and win another win before I'm done, because that
would make sense. I don't think he can. They can
win here, the two of them because they their play
is similar, and it would give the Lakers a chance
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to move forward.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's start again. We have Luca.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Now, how are we going to build around him? Because
they got their guy. So for the Lakers, it's really
a no lose situation unless he's not in shape. And
I believe he's going to get in shape because I
think this was like a slap in the face and
just knocks some reality into him that wait wait, you
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said you think this is a no lose situation for them.
I know you look at it differently. I think he's
going to react in a very different way than he
did in Dallas. I think this is the ultimate wake
up call for this guy. I think he comes here
and realizes just being me isn't enough. It's going to
take a little more. And by the way, if he
applies himself a little more, he only gets better. He'll
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only Oh no, he's a bad man. He's unstoppable offensively.
So imagine, imagine if he gets into the kind of
shape that they want him to. I mean, nobody's saying
Lo's seventy pounds, nobody suggesting that, but they want him
in better shape. Okay, hopefully that will happen here and
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then he's here. He's the toast of the town. Now
he is the Lakers. Luka Nancic will be the Lakers.
And whoever you surround him with, he's magic. Of course
magic had Kareem, He's Shack, course, Shack had Kobe. Uh, yeah,
he's Wilt. He's that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's not a guy. He's he's a one name guy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is he charismatic enough to handle l a well?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That will find Aaker, that will find out because that's
part of that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Got to be able to play the game in La
you can get away with whatever quirkiness, attitude, you know,
towards the media, not wanting to talk too much. You know,
he got a you know, got a little certain edginess
to him in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is that gonna play?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I mean, all of these is gonna be the question
because it's a new market for him, and LA's in
New York. Are different animals, trying a much different animal
than Dallas. True, but he's twenty five and he can
learn if he chooses to. That's true. That's the best
part about it. He's twenty five. And as you mentioned,
the Lakers have their guy and their star and their
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face for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, really, if you look at it, and I mean,
if you're just being honest, this would be the time
for Lebron to go after the season, go win another one. Yeah,
finish with another one. You've earned that right, you deserve it,
and let the Lakers go off on their own and
start putting together the new look, the new generation, the
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new team.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
How long does that take? How long does that take?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Lebron leaves, goes and, like you said, goes to win
it and says Steph calls and say, hey, we got
one more run in us, man, come on up here
to Golden State.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Let's go do it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And he goes up plays with Steph, which they wanted
to play with each other for a minute.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Where does that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Leave the Lakers, especially if Lebron leaves and they don't
get much for him, it leaves them in this position
further ahead than if he stays three years. At first,
they got to be a playoff team every year, but
they are a playoff team with Lebron and they're not
going anywhere with Luca. If they're a playoff team, you say, okay,
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well now we can do this. Now we can do that,
and we can keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think with Luca, and we'll have to see and
watch him play, but I think with Luca, you look
at it like this, Okay, we have an upward trajectory here.
If Rob Polenka builds the roster correctly, we can improve,
we can get better. All of a sudden, we think
we got a shot with Lebron and ad it is
what it is and it's not going to be anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, but you've got to get the guy.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I mean, he's not going to get the super max,
but he's going to get a max contract, right, you know,
So then you got you're gonna run into some money issues.
Who else do you sign and put behind or right
next to Luca? And you got to get another big
Who's that gonna.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Be well, that's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Figure that out, of course, But it's just this. Do
you want to stay exactly where you're at because that's
not going to get better? A D and Lebron that's it,
and people went to the games to see Lebron, that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's not going to get much better.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or do you want to say, here's Luca, let's surround him,
let's start building and see where we can go. I
have to tell you, I think fans and I could
be wrong, but I think the fans would say, let's go,
let's go forward. If Lebron is here, you're exactly where
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you're at.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let's go forward.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What are the fans going to realize that? Okay, we
may be in a three year hiatus. I'm saying they'll
make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You're about that, Yeah, they'll make the My god, this
team has been a play in team.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
At least they'll make the play in with Luca.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You're saying with Luca without Lebron, and so Lebron's gone,
they're gonna bring somebody else in. They'll still be a
playoff or anyal playoff team.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm saying they'll be the worst case of play in. Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I do. I think they'll be.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A play in worst case, And really that's not much
worse than what they are right now. So if that's
the case, we go forward and start anew. I'm telling you,
they just bought a lot of good will. And what's
interesting is, according to the reporting, the Mavericks called the Lakers,
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So they must have really wanted a d because they're
trying to create a front line, like Cleveland has a
massive front line to compete well.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And and and just they don't forget Jason Kidd was
here when they won the title. I don't care if
you want to stay in the bubble or not. They
want the title. And and and we have Dan Wookie
on several times, and he talks about the formula that
they won the title. And even Adam Austin talks about
it too, when they had Develle McGee and they had
Dwight Howard and they were big, big, big, and ad
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did not.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Have to play the five all the time. And so.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
He's looking at it, I mean, Jason Kidd looking at
it down there. We had a formula down there to
win it when I was in La. Let's bring him in.
And they are I agree with it. I think they
are on a fast track in the next two years
to go all in and they're trying to win it.
They're trying to win it. How the Lakers build around
Luca will be very very interesting, especially if what happens,
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like you said was gonna happen. Lebron leaves and goes
tries to win win one more.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
To me, that makes sense. Staying here does not make sense.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I understand he has a son here, but I don't
think he's doing the franchise any favors. If he stays,
he's not helping anybody. He he deserves the right to
win another one. He's earned that right and he should
go try to win that. But staying here only again
slows the process.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And on top of that, they're they're similar players, So
it just I don't know how how it it fits.
Although you know, they they question whether or not he
and Kyrie were going to fit in Dallas, and they
figured out a way to make it work and went
to the finals last year. But I just think him
and Lebron, uh, he just they're they're the same. They're
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the same kind of guy that needs the ball in
the hand and and it'll be interesting to see how
that fits without without a a.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
A dominant big That'll be very interesting. It's like six
nine eight seven two five seventy. Let's open the phone
lines in the first hour. Let's hear what Laker fans
think we have. I don't think we've taken any calls
on the Lakers this year, to be honest with you, Yeah,
I don't think we have. We even let a show
with the Lakers this season. No, we always talk about
the Dodgers, but today it is the Lakers making news.
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Eight six six nine eight seven two five seventy. Okay,
Laker fans, what do you think of this deal? What
do you think of the deal? And what should Lebron
do A six six nine eight seven two five seventy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yes, it is a Monday. Ooh, waking up with a
lot going on. It's Monday.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, come on, okay, Rodney E's six
sixth ninet eighty seven two five seventy.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Let's hear from Laker fans.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's been a long time since the trade has created
this kind of interest and generated that much shock. So
let's hear what the Laker fans think and we'll go
to Highland Park.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Matt. We appreciate you holding.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Go ahead. What do you think and we're happy to
take your call.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Hey, guys, I think the Lakers are going to dominate.
I think Lebron and Luca, according to JJ Reddick, are
the only two players in the NBA who can pass
out of any double team. They have the highest IQ
in the NBA, arguably Lebron maybe the highest IQ in
the NBA of all time. These guys are going to
figure it out. They are going to have a lot
of open looks and if you have a bunch of
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three NDU guys knocking down shots, they're just gonna run
through the Western Conference. Now they need to add some pieces.
But I'm really excited, guys, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, I get you should be excited.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think everybody should be excited because you've acquired a
player like Luka Nanchic. Ultimately, is it going to work
with Lebron That's another story. They multy both rotten. He
may have great basketball IQ and get out of double teams,
but they both play the same way. Basically, Yeah, yeah,
you know, Lebron a little bit more at the rim
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still than Luca was never a you know, a high flyer,
but still can score with anybody. When you talk about
two guys that know how to score, both those guys
can do that. And again again it's just cause it
really is going to come down to supporting cast. As
much as those guys can can play and can score,
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you need and we said this last year, they need
that third option. Doesn't need to be a third guy
that they pay another, you know, forty fifty million dollars to,
But somebody on every given night's got to be that
third score, that third guy that comes into the mix.
It's got it Downtown La Many thank you for holding
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Hey, guys, I'm absolutely thrilled by the trade, but I
think a lot of people are.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Missing some of the major points.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
In order for this trade to happen, the Lakers had
to believe that Anthony Davis was not the next torch
bearer and the carrier.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
For the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
So this this was this was almost like a blessing
in this guise. And you have to look back at
all these previous trades like Kevin Durant, look at how
many first round picks and how much mortgage was given
up to get you know, premier players. You're getting the
guy in his prime at twenty five years old, who
is going to be probably, as I assume, the next
torch bearer for the Lakers. So I think this is
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a dream come true for Lakers fans. And I haven't
been to a game since Kobe Bryant. I'm already looking
at tickets for Lucas.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So I'm back.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Lakers are back, baby.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Appreciate it. Thanks Manning.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
There you go that that's the exclamation point of my
point of earlier. He puts people in the seats. I'm back, baby.
By the way, when you talk about Anthony Davis and
the one A and the torch bearer, I understand what
you're saying, but I would ask you to look at
this together. Lamrod and a d weren't going to win,
So did it matter who the next torch bearer was.
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The team wasn't going to win. It wasn't going to
win the title. And if that's the case, who cares
who the next torch bearer is? The next torch bearer
should be somebody that was here and won a couple.
They won one, they haven't won in a while, and
they weren't going to win this year and probably next year.
So I think it's more a situation where a that
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team can't win the championship, be you need somebody to
put fans in the seats. Ask you this, Okay, Lebron's gone,
and let's say he stays both years. So it was
the way it was, and he leaves, he's done. Who
are you gonna pay to see? Anthony Davis or Luca?
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Who are you gonna pay to see? You're gonna pay
to see Luca. And that's how the Lakers are built.
They're built with stars. Put people in the seats. That's
not to diminish Anthony Davis's skill, but you're gonna pay
to see Luca. Uh okay, neimaiyah in menafee, go ahead,
you're on.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
How's it going, guys, I'm actually good. I'm thrilled with
the trade. I love Luca, to be honest. I hate
to see ad go. Also Max Christy, I feel like
he was finally coming into one of his own, such
a young player at twenty one. But I would be
lying if I said I wasn't thrilled to see Luca.
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I would love to see the Lakers, though, push for
a center before the trade deadline. Nothing crazy though, like
maybe a Robert Williams from Portland. I don't think he'll
be too expensive. He helped Boston a lot when they
were going through those final struggles, but.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He is always hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
So I would love to hear you guys thoughts.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Thank you appreciate that call.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, they need a center, they need a big and
and so that's what's going to be missing. And how
do they go about getting that, you know? And and
what can they do at the trade And who else
do they got to give up? Is Austin Reeves, you know,
possibly a guy Rudy Hachima.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I think one other thing that we, you know, haven't
talked a whole lot about since we started talking about
this is I think that I think dalphin connect is
also going to benefit from Luca being here, Luca playing
with Lebron, I think he's gonna get the more he plays,
the more open looks he's gonna get as well. So
he's gonna be a key factor going forward. But how
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do they get that big at the trade deadline? What
do they got to give up?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Adrian in Baldwin Park, all right, you're happy because you
thought it was time to cut with a D.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
That is correct, Rogan Rodney, glorious day in Lakerland today.
I am absolutely thrilled with this trade. AD just started
to stand for always disabled guys. What can we do?
The guy's never on the court. When he is, he's stellar.
When he's not, we suffer.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Right.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
One last thing with that is I just wish we
could have included Brodney in this trade right at the
same time, it is what it is. You cannot spell
Luca without la boys.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
As for the AD point, yeah, he does get hurt,
but Rodney, you made this point earlier, and I have
to agree. It's not like I was by any stretch
of the imagination. No, no, And you got to give
him credit for that. I mean, if you're gonna tear
him down like that when he was not on the court,
you got I mean, yes, he's got the scrain now,
but for the most part over the last year and
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a half, he has been available, and he has been
dominant when he's been available.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's the thing. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know, let's not forget Letes' not act like Luca
coming in as a guy that plays nine eighty two
games a season either. You know he's hurt right now.
And the question and the reason Dallas got rid of
him because he wasn't in shape and its conditioning was
a factor. So is he going to have to change
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his ways? Yes, he's a guy that gets hurt. Yes,
So you're gonna deal with the same issues that you
dealt with with Ad.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's going down to Irvine Lee. We appreciate your holding,
so you think you like the trade, But but what.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
But what is that br Lebron and Luca have to
have the ball in their hands. They're gonna kill your offense.
And we can never develop our young players with these
guys hogging the ball. They'll be cute on the cut
ends and cut arounds, but the game is made in
one from the inside out. And we've got two Hall
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of Fame players that love to play on the perimeter.
And Lebron has never done the dirty works. He sins around,
directs traffic. It's cute, it's fun, but he never gets
down and does the dirty works. He who wants someone
else to do the dirty works? The young brother in
Detroit during the nineteen year old He's ready, but there's
not much to choose from and I won't go back
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to d White. Howard, thank you all right, and.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We'll go Randy in Riverside, Randy, wrap it up, Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Well, think it's a good trade. It makes perfect business
sense because we can go forward with something. The big
what is for me is what happens to Lebron, because
with Lebron you have Bronni and he's going to want
to stay to secure his son's future in the NBA
because we don't think he's still going to be here
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after Lebron leaves.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wait to be a first round Wait, wait, Bronnie signed
more than a one year deal, no matter what, right
I'm trying to remember, not.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Right, but but but but but do the Lakers keep
him though? After Bron's gone? Yeah, Lebron, go ahead and
go go go with Steph Curry. Let's see what we
can get for him and start building. And and it's
going to have to be some hard times. Laker fans
are going to have to be patient because this isn't
going to be a turnaround right away. But you know,
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Luca is somebody that the other guys can get with.
Other players will probably want to come here now and
play with him, and and that's kind of been our
big secret that nobody really talks about, you know, that
people don't want to come here. We might be able
to get another superstar in this in this city.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Now, well, keep in mind, I appreciate the call, Thanks
rand uh Lebron's got to agree to any deal. They
just can't say you're traded. You can't have the secret
conversations that he's gone because he's got to agree to it.
And ultimately that said I don't have a conversation with him,
And wasn't that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Wasn't that wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Part of the issue coming out of Dallas though, was
that guys didn't want to necessarily play with Luca down there.
I have a few years back that was grumblings out
of Dallas that they wouldn't whole lot of players wanted
to go down to Dallas and play with him, and guys.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Might not have that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Jalen Brynce doesn't mean he wanted to get out of there,
you know, and Luca didn't like playing with Jalen Brunson
when they had that run with him got out of
them with New York.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I think they didn't want to pay him was the issue.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
There was grumblings. There was grumblings. My point is there
was grumblings that there were not a whole lot of
guys that wanted to play with Luca.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well and also Lebronni question, which I guess is valid. First,
if lebron sat down after the season, I'm telling you
where he could make an impact.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
He could make an impact in Phoenix, he could help them.
But the Bronni question, if you want to stay, if
you want to stay here just so Bronni continues, I
think that's kind of selfish.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think he gets I think he got he got
him here, he got him in and you know, got
him some visibility. But I don't think he stays long
term or stays extra to secure Ronnie's Ronnie's spot. I
think he did what he wanted to do was play
with his son. You know, Lebron's a realist too. He
knows Bronnie's got a long way to go. And I
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don't think he stays here to try to push playing
time for Bronnie. If there's a situation for him to
go elsewhere. I think he is. He has got done
what he accomplished and wanted to accomplish, which is get
him in the NBA and get a chance to play
with his son.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And he made history, and now I was time to
keep on moving.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Rodney, it looks like your guy's got an open, open
door if he wants to come back to the Dodgers,
let's go. Looks like your guys got it up. Let's
see if he walks through the door. We'll talk about
that next Hey, Hey, Today's Afternoon Delight is Houston Atlantaville
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
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sophomore album entitled I I.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
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Speaker 2 (37:39):
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Atlantaville by ES T J. Yeah, players had to say,
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Key k Hernandez, your guy. That's the guy you want.
I think most Dodger fans would love to have him back.
If you look at it realistically, there's no roster spot
right now. There's nowhere to put him, But that doesn't
mean there won't be a place to put him. Brandon
Gohm said the door will never be closed on key K.
Andrew Friedman basically said the same thing, which tells me
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they would love to have him. The doors never closed.
There's a report that the Yankees have kicked the tires
a little bit on him. But does that sound to
you like, this is what it is? Will you take
it and play? Because that's what I took it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
As we're sitting here and you know, this is what
we can offer you, whatever that is, and if you
take it, you're in.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Did you read it like that or no? Yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
They made him an offer, gave him this is what
we what we got and what can offer you. You know,
I don't know if it's take it or leave it,
but it's got to be in that neighborhood. It's got
to be in that ballpark. So if you're asking and
trying to get, you know, a couple million dollars more
and two more years on a deal, then that's we
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can't do that. If it's close, I think they would
would have a discussion. But I think it's pretty pretty
close to what the Dodgers they are willing to do for
Key K and for them to say he and his
wife and family have to figure it out. Is like, here,
we put it on the table for you, Kik, whatever
you want to do, it's open for you. If you
want to take it. If you can find something better
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out there, then all means go go chase it. And
and God bless you. But I think they have kept
it there for him and offered him something. Now we
don't know what that is, but I think it's something
that's on the table for Kik, whether he wants to
accept it or not.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So let's say took it. Let's say he said I'm back.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And honestly, as we sit here and think about it,
you have to assume he'll want to come back. So
something has to give. And what could that be? What
is that thing that could give that roster spot, the
forty man roster?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What might it be? Chris Taylor? Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I think we gotta you know, there's a lot of
things that are uncertain going into the season, though, Fred
that there guy, a lot of guys are gonna be
on the il that that can't start the season, that
had just had surgeries or coming off injuries, and and
and until we got the full scope of all of
those guys, it's kind of hard to say, is who's
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gonna be on who's going to be off, because we
don't know if these guys are gonna be down and
for for two months to start the season, or won't
be back until June, or won't be back until July,
and and so there's a there's there's still some unknown
and until we know all that, and it's it's hard
to say who's gonna who's gonna be cut or who's
gonna lose a roster spot because they got to sign
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Key k Well.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Keep this in mind, the majority of those guys are
pictures that we're talking about. You know, who's gonna be healthy,
who's not, who's gonna be ready, who's not the majority
of that group, they're pictures And you can only carry
somebody guys on the bench so many reserves. So I
think that's where the dilemma is. Uh, there's only so
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many spots. And you know we I think we talked
about this last week, Rodney. If you'll just break it down,
who is it. It's Mickey Rojas, It's Chris Taylor and
who else? PAHZ. But they're not gonna move him. They're
not gonna not give him a roster spot. So who
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else could it be?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Outman? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
But again, Dalton Rushing will be in the forty man roster.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Do you think I don't know that. You don't know that. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
They want to see him up here this year. Yeah,
but that doesn't mean he's gonna be up here at
the beginning. They may not bring him up until Midsummer.
They want to want him to start out down in
Triple A and see how he starts off the season,
then bring him up. I wouldn't guarantee a guy that's
not been up here yet to begin the season on
the forty man.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I'm just saying I think something would have to give,
somebody would have to go.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, yeah, somebody is gonna be I don't think you know,
like I said, you keep throwing out Dawnt Rushing. I
don't think as much as they are high on him,
I don't think he was what they have. If they
had deficiencies and you know, we're in this dilemma of
trying to find a roster spot for Kik, then yeah,
he'd be up there right away, getting his swings in
and be ready to go as soon as they called
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upon him. But they've got options and they don't have
to rush him up here, even as much as they
want to see him. I think they play it by
year and then when the time is right they can
bring him up. They'll bring him up. But k K
won't start the season in the miners. I mean, he's
got to be in the big league. No, k won't rushing,
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
But in the big league club, Well, there's got to
be a big league roster spot, and those spots are
Taylor Rojas out. I don't think Autman starts on the
big club. I think it's gonna be Piez. I mean,
David Vasse would know better than we would, but I
just am guessing.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, given them last year, in the production of last year,
and and and Outman fallen off a little bit, Yeah,
it's gonna be Piz.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well there you go, No, you know, yeah, there you go. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think he's just the backham catcher. Yeah, so he's
not going anywhere. But yeah, and they wouldn't say this,
throw it out there to have key K be a guy.
We're going to start you in Oklahoma City. No, that
ain't happening, No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
So the door is open.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
And from all intents and purposes, The question becomes when
will kick a walk through it? Okay, we saved the
best for last this hour. Eric Dickerson's on today. That's
the show coming up after the break, and we've got
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a ton of stuff to get into and we'll start
getting ready for the super Bowl as well
All right, here we go, Happy Monday. Fred Rogan and
Rodney Pete on a five to seventy LA Sports. Kind
of a slow, quiet weekend, wouldn't you say, Rodney? Yeah, yeah,
not a lot happened.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
You think it's uh, you know in between you know,
the NFC and AFC championship game in the NFL, so
in the Super Bowl's coming up this week, So this
past weekend was going to be the slow, slow weekend,
nothing happening. Nobody wants to watch the Pro Bowl, right,
nobody wants to watch that anymore. So what are you
watching college basketball?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Mid season? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I did watch the USC women's versus Iowa basketball game
and US came up on the short end of that
but fought hard. But yeah, nothing really happening over the weekend, Fred,
Not so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
When the news broke that the Lakers are acquired Luka Doncic,
you had to believe that that wasn't real.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
First, I'll know, there's no way this happened. This cannot
have happened, right.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yes you do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But there's certain guys, and he's he's put himself in
the mix that when you hear something come from them,
then there's some validity to it. You know, Ryan went
Horse was the guy that just he just retired because
the hell Woes, Yes, Woes would say something. You know,
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it was a Woes bomb, right, you knew it was.
You knew it was something to it and something real.
And now Shams, I mean when he says something, he's
dialed in enough that you know is happening. Adam Schefter
in football, you know, I mean Jay Glazer in football.
You know, when those guys say something, they talked, they
got they got deep throats everywhere, so you know, they
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talked to the right people. So when he when he did,
even though it was Shamps, I was like, no, this
can't be real. He's jumping the gun on this. He's
jumping the gun. We've never seen anything like this. Superstar
for Superstar, We've not seen anything like that. No, my
son was the first one that shot it to me.
D you see what happened, And he, you know, head,
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he's a big Laker fan. He believed as soon as
it happened. You see what happened. We just got Luca.
We just got Luca saying no, that's this, you know,
come on, that's not happening. You know, we would have,
we would have heard the rumors before that, and sure
enough it's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So, uh, Luca's father spoke to Serbian media and I
gave an interview, and the first thing he said is
he's very disappointed because of the secrecy, the secrecy in
the deal and that nobody knew what was going on,
including the players involved. That's hard to do twenty twenty five,
that's very difficult to do. But somehow they pulled it off.
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So let's think about this for a second.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
My first thought when I heard about that because when
Eric Dickerson was playing for the Rams and all of
a sudden he was in Indianapolis and dick Enberg, the
late Great dick Enberg said, you can never let the
greats go. You can never do that. Yeah, there are
good players, and there are great players. There are transcendent players.
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Luk at Donchas is one of them. You can never
let them go. So when the MAVs pulled the trigger
on this deal, the first thing I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Is who did he piss off?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean, you've got to have done something pretty awful
for them to go. You're done, So why specially especially
at twenty five years old.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
For the Lakers, Rob Pulinka just got himself five more
years as the general manager.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
No problem, he did.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And by the way, it doesn't matter what happens with
the Lakers this year, win, lose, tied. It's irrelevant because
now the future is here and everything will be focused
on that. But anyway, the problem was, and Mike Curtis
of the Dallas Morning News is going to join us
during the one o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
He's on it all day long. He's our beat writer.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Problem was a Luka Doncics was out of shape, didn't
take care of himself, suffered some injuries, has a calf
issue now and the Mavericks talk to him about conditioning.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
In the past.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He is a big boy, but apparently he was not
taking care of himself. So then you had a situation
where they could offer him a supermax deal for like
three hundred and forty five million dollars, and they probably
looked at each other and said, Okay, we got a
guy that we've talked to that is not taken care
of himself, that may not be as available as we
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would like because he is not taking care of himself.
Do we really want to invest three hundred and forty
five million dollars in that guy, because that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
When you've spent that money, that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And I think they all looked at each other and said, no,
we're joining the line in the sand right now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We're going to draw the line. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We could lose him as a free agent as well,
we're not going to play that game. We'll move him
right now, and we'll move him for a player that
we hope is going to make us better long term.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Uh, this move for the Mavericks is not something that
they think, well in five years and five years they'll
be dead.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, this is a right now move for the map.
This is it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We're in Kyrie, who turned out to be a good
move for them. Klay Thompson obviously he's got this year,
maybe one one more after this for for the role
that they want him to play. So this is this
is a two year window for the Mavericks right now,
and and and they looked at it. We've got arguably
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the best Defaull definitely the depth, the I think the
best defensive big man in the game. I think he's
better than Rudy Gobert to be honest with you and
and we want to win right now. But what does
that say about Luca? Because if you poll people and
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I'm ask you, Fred, would you say he is top
four players in the league at least, or if not
top three, maybe top three Rodney, Yeah, top three player
in the league. I'll give you that, top three player
in the league right now. And how do you not
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build on a twenty five year old that's got that
kind of experience in the league right now? And it
has to be what you just mentioned, him not committed
to being in shape. We've seen it before with different guys.
I just heard something that you know earlier today when
everybody's talking about this, they said, take, for instance, Shake
Gilds Alexander. OK, so he cannot wait to get that
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paperwork in front of him that had let him sign
that supermax. They will be waiting on his doorstep soon
as that date is available for him to sign that thing,
for him to come back and sign the super max
and be with them, because he is committed on and
off the court.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I don't think they believe that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think it's it's it speaks volumes of how an
organization is trying to take the power back. It's like,
I don't care how great you are, you got to
be committed to this and you can't come in out
of shape, you know, cause it's gonna lead to you
being hurt every single year.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And we got to be able to count on you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And so if you're not willing to put into work
in the off season, be committed to it, We're not
going to commit to you. And it was a clear
example of that, and they got rid of them. I
thought it was it was shrewd. It was a gamble. Obviously,
his fans in Dallas hate it. They pickt it outside
the arena. But I think it was a clear case
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of the of the Mavericks going and probably have warned
him over the years, Hey, you got to pick it up.
You got to start being a pro. You know, if
you're gonna be the face of our franchise, we need
you to lead by example too. You know, you got
to be Lebron in the gym. You got to be
Kobe in the gym and showing up in and not
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being out of shape when you come to training camp.
So the first two months of the season, we're gonna
lose you to lose it to little nagging injuries.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Can't be that guy, and they got rid of him.
And what is this an enormous wake up call? Now
he could have been sent to a lot of places.
He got sent here, which is you know this just
Rob Polinka opened the door and who was sitting there?
Luka doncics. He goes, I'm here, Well, come on in.
Because that's basically what happened. The MAVs called one team.
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Nico Harrison and Rob Polinka knew each other from the
days when uh Nico worked for Nike and Rob Wood
Kobe's agent. They had a relationship. They started kicking this around.
They just they thought and looked at each other and
said what if? And then it became so this was
like a blessing for the Lakers, a wake up call
for Luca and probably a wake up call that he
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would not have adhered to if he stayed in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't well, he said that. We'll get into that.
I don't know if it's a wake up call for
the Lake. I mean that blessing for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know. We'll talk about it, but let's just
get into the story. Okay. But well, now you've piqued
my interest.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, just for the reason we just talked about, you know,
that was the criticism of Anthony Davis until I mean,
he's going to the abdominal strain now. But from the
day Anthony Davis first got here is he was always hurt.
They called him mister street clothes. Charles Barkley did. And
but I will give him credit. He changed something up
in the last couple of years where he was more
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available and he was playing at a high level and
was on the court more often than he had been
in the last in the previous two years. So he
had he got a wake up call by being here
and everybody calling him out by not being in shape,
changing his diet, changing his workout program, and he did that.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Are we going to run into the same thing with
Luca when he gets here.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's that's my concern is will him being around Lebron
be enough to learn how how to work out, stay
in shape and take care of your body like you
need to be a professional athlete nowadays.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Or will the simple fact that somebody said we don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You be enough true? That could be a total.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Fact that you know what, you're not all that we
can lose with you and we can lose without you.
So the wake up call factor right there, you go,
Thanks for playing and goodbye. But for the Lakers, this
is a godsend and the reason it is is because
of the way they have always operated. Who's that star,
who's that guy? Because that's how the bus families always
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looked at it. We have stars. Well, now you've got
one of the biggest in the NBA. Take Lebron out
of the equation for a second. Yeah, Luka, Doncic. Let's
think about big guys that Laker fans remember who came
by trade, who was a free agent.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And who was drafted.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, in sixty eight, that was a massive deal and
many of the people listening right now.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Would not understand and how big that was.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Will Chamberlain Jack Kent Cook traded for Wilt Chamberlain traded
with Philadelphia and gave him two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, which was more than Jerry westmade. By
the way, Will Chamberlain was a huge move.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was raining NBA MVP, right, the raining MVP, and
they traded different time, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Seventy five Lakers acquired Kareem from Milwaukee and I remember
all too well, when Kareem went to Milwaukee, the Bucks
and the Suns were an expansion franchise. They flipped that coin.
I was living in Phoenix and the Bucks got him.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Bucks got him, Bucks got it, and he got him
a championship in what two years?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, but they traded for Kareem. Let's just think of
the big guys over the years. Wilt, Kareem Magic, drafted,
Shack Signers, a free age, Kobe a draft, Knight trade
with Charlotte Blood a Devox went to the Hornets, Lebron
was a free agent, and now Luca was acquired by trade.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Listen to those.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Names, and especially if you are not old enough to
remember the Wilt Chamberlain days. Paul Gasol and that fell
into the Lakers lap. M that one fell into their
lap as well. But Pile came because Kobe needed help.
But look at the name, told him too well. But
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they sent Marcus all over and yeah, but now listen
to the names. Look at the names I just read.
Those are the people that put people in the seats.
Those are the players that people showed up to see. Well,
Kareem Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, and now Luca they've got
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their guy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
They've got the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
They've got the guy to put people in the seats,
and they've got a guy that you could argue top
three in the league. That's what this trade did for
the Lakers. It also buys them an enormous amount of
goodwill and time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, well they got their guy now for the next
what seven to ten years?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, so it's not the right time.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well we sit here and worry about, oh, are they
going to make another deal the trade deadline? Can they
win it this year? I'm telling you, And if you're
a Laker fan you think Luca is enough to win it,
it's not. But moreover, it doesn't matter. Now they've got
their guy and they're going to start. They're going to
figure out a way to put this together. Hopefully they
get a big here at the trade deadline, somebody to
play a little interior defense for the Anthony Davis gone,
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but they override.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The more active though. You think this makes them more active.
Now that's the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Now that they got Luca and they're trying to somewhat
make a push that they're going to be more active
than they would have been if they didn't make that trade.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but I think now out of necessity, they have
to get somebody big. Now necessity they have to somebody serviceable,
get him in there, and really it's not going to
make that much of a difference this year, but going
forward they've got the guy. It's no longer Lebron an ad.
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I really think now hopefully Lebron wears off on Luca,
but now it's Luca, and that's how Laker fans will
look at it. Hopefully Lebron Luca will listen to Lebron,
pick up some of his habits, his work ethic.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And learn from him.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But how do you think they play together? Not well
well enough. It doesn't feel like the fit, like the
Anthony Davis Lebron great fit, great fit. The way they
play in different positions, in the way they play together,
Luca and Lebron. As we've said oftentimes when we've talked
about diferent players come to the Lakers or being on
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a specific team, you know, there are two guys that
need to be ball dominant.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, they're not gonna it's not gonna be great, but
it's he's here. Now, he's here, and you know, now
it's on Lebron Lebron has a player option at the
end of the year, does he pick it up? He
said he doesn't want to be traded. I don't think
they can win a title together because they're making a
lot of money and the Lakers need help and maybe
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Lebron says after this year, when looking at the whole thing,
I want to go win. Well, what has happened is
they've reloaded. We've talked about what happens when Ad and
Lebron are gone, then you have to rebuild. Well, they
don't have to rebuild anymore. Now they have to reload.
They've already got the guy, they have the new guy,
and now it's surrounding him going forward, there's not going
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to be.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
How do they really really the only way they reload
is find a way to trade Lebron.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well, eventually you'll get there a.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Bunch of picks and get you know, as you know,
a couple of players. But Lebron's got the no trade
clause in it, and as he's aging is his value
continues to go down. Mm hmm, right, So how how
do they reload around uh, you know, around around Luca.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, Lebron has a player option, so he can play
one more year. But Lebron may look at it like this, Yeah,
I want to go where I can win again.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I'm a win now guy. I want to win now.
So and in the NBA, you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Know, aside from this deal, uh, the stars pretty much
dictate where they end up. So I'd like to go
here and win another win before I'm done, because that
would make sense. I don't think he can. They can
win here, the two of them because they their play
is similar, and it would give the Lakers a chance
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to move forward.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's start again. We have Luca.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Now, how are we going to build around him? Because
they got their guy. So for the Lakers, it's really
a no lose situation unless he's not in shape. And
I believe he's going to get in shape because I
think this was like a slap in the face and
just knocks some reality into him that wait wait, you
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said you think this is a no lose situation for them.
I know you look at it differently. I think he's
going to react in a very different way than he
did in Dallas. I think this is the ultimate wake
up call for this guy. I think he comes here
and realizes just being me isn't enough. It's going to
take a little more. And by the way, if he
applies himself a little more, he only gets better. He'll
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only Oh no, he's a bad man. He's unstoppable offensively.
So imagine, imagine if he gets into the kind of
shape that they want him to. I mean, nobody's saying
Lo's seventy pounds, nobody suggesting that, but they want him
in better shape. Okay, hopefully that will happen here and
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then he's here. He's the toast of the town. Now
he is the Lakers. Luka Nancic will be the Lakers.
And whoever you surround him with, he's magic. Of course
magic had Kareem, He's Shack, course, Shack had Kobe. Uh, yeah,
he's Wilt. He's that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's not a guy. He's he's a one name guy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is he charismatic enough to handle l a well?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That will find Aaker, that will find out because that's
part of that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Got to be able to play the game in La
you can get away with whatever quirkiness, attitude, you know,
towards the media, not wanting to talk too much. You know,
he got a you know, got a little certain edginess
to him in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Is that gonna play?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I mean, all of these is gonna be the question
because it's a new market for him, and LA's in
New York. Are different animals, trying a much different animal
than Dallas. True, but he's twenty five and he can
learn if he chooses to. That's true. That's the best
part about it. He's twenty five. And as you mentioned,
the Lakers have their guy and their star and their
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face for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, really, if you look at it, and I mean,
if you're just being honest, this would be the time
for Lebron to go after the season, go win another one. Yeah,
finish with another one. You've earned that right, you deserve it,
and let the Lakers go off on their own and
start putting together the new look, the new generation, the
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new team.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
How long does that take? How long does that take?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Lebron leaves, goes and, like you said, goes to win
it and says Steph calls and say, hey, we got
one more run in us, man, come on up here
to Golden State.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Let's go do it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And he goes up plays with Steph, which they wanted
to play with each other for a minute.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Where does that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Leave the Lakers, especially if Lebron leaves and they don't
get much for him, it leaves them in this position
further ahead than if he stays three years. At first,
they got to be a playoff team every year, but
they are a playoff team with Lebron and they're not
going anywhere with Luca. If they're a playoff team, you say, okay,
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well now we can do this. Now we can do that,
and we can keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I think with Luca, and we'll have to see and
watch him play, but I think with Luca, you look
at it like this, Okay, we have an upward trajectory here.
If Rob Polenka builds the roster correctly, we can improve,
we can get better. All of a sudden, we think
we got a shot with Lebron and ad it is
what it is and it's not going to be anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, but you've got to get the guy.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I mean, he's not going to get the super max,
but he's going to get a max contract, right, you know,
So then you got you're gonna run into some money issues.
Who else do you sign and put behind or right
next to Luca? And you got to get another big
Who's that gonna.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Be well, that's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Figure that out, of course, But it's just this. Do
you want to stay exactly where you're at because that's
not going to get better? A D and Lebron that's it,
and people went to the games to see Lebron, that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's not going to get much better.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or do you want to say, here's Luca, let's surround him,
let's start building and see where we can go. I
have to tell you, I think fans and I could
be wrong, but I think the fans would say, let's go,
let's go forward. If Lebron is here, you're exactly where
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you're at.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let's go forward.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What are the fans going to realize that? Okay, we
may be in a three year hiatus. I'm saying they'll
make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You're about that, Yeah, they'll make the My god, this
team has been a play in team.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
At least they'll make the play in with Luca.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You're saying with Luca without Lebron, and so Lebron's gone,
they're gonna bring somebody else in. They'll still be a
playoff or anyal playoff team.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm saying they'll be the worst case of play in. Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I do. I think they'll be.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A play in worst case, And really that's not much
worse than what they are right now. So if that's
the case, we go forward and start anew. I'm telling you,
they just bought a lot of good will. And what's
interesting is, according to the reporting, the Mavericks called the Lakers,
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So they must have really wanted a d because they're
trying to create a front line, like Cleveland has a
massive front line to compete well.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And and and just they don't forget Jason Kidd was
here when they won the title. I don't care if
you want to stay in the bubble or not. They
want the title. And and and we have Dan Wookie
on several times, and he talks about the formula that
they won the title. And even Adam Austin talks about
it too, when they had Develle McGee and they had
Dwight Howard and they were big, big, big, and ad
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did not.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Have to play the five all the time. And so.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
He's looking at it, I mean, Jason Kidd looking at
it down there. We had a formula down there to
win it when I was in La. Let's bring him in.
And they are I agree with it. I think they
are on a fast track in the next two years
to go all in and they're trying to win it.
They're trying to win it. How the Lakers build around
Luca will be very very interesting, especially if what happens,
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like you said was gonna happen. Lebron leaves and goes
tries to win win one more.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
To me, that makes sense. Staying here does not make sense.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I understand he has a son here, but I don't
think he's doing the franchise any favors. If he stays,
he's not helping anybody. He he deserves the right to
win another one. He's earned that right and he should
go try to win that. But staying here only again
slows the process.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And on top of that, they're they're similar players, So
it just I don't know how how it it fits.
Although you know, they they question whether or not he
and Kyrie were going to fit in Dallas, and they
figured out a way to make it work and went
to the finals last year. But I just think him
and Lebron, uh, he just they're they're the same. They're
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the same kind of guy that needs the ball in
the hand and and it'll be interesting to see how
that fits without without a a.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
A dominant big That'll be very interesting. It's like six
nine eight seven two five seventy. Let's open the phone
lines in the first hour. Let's hear what Laker fans
think we have. I don't think we've taken any calls
on the Lakers this year, to be honest with you, Yeah,
I don't think we have. We even let a show
with the Lakers this season. No, we always talk about
the Dodgers, but today it is the Lakers making news.
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Eight six six nine eight seven two five seventy. Okay,
Laker fans, what do you think of this deal? What
do you think of the deal? And what should Lebron
do A six six nine eight seven two five seventy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yes, it is a Monday. Ooh, waking up with a
lot going on. It's Monday.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan, come on, okay, Rodney E's six
sixth ninet eighty seven two five seventy.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Let's hear from Laker fans.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's been a long time since the trade has created
this kind of interest and generated that much shock. So
let's hear what the Laker fans think and we'll go
to Highland Park.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Matt. We appreciate you holding.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Go ahead. What do you think and we're happy to
take your call.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Hey, guys, I think the Lakers are going to dominate.
I think Lebron and Luca, according to JJ Reddick, are
the only two players in the NBA who can pass
out of any double team. They have the highest IQ
in the NBA, arguably Lebron maybe the highest IQ in
the NBA of all time. These guys are going to
figure it out. They are going to have a lot
of open looks and if you have a bunch of
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three NDU guys knocking down shots, they're just gonna run
through the Western Conference. Now they need to add some pieces.
But I'm really excited, guys, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, I get you should be excited.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think everybody should be excited because you've acquired a
player like Luka Nanchic. Ultimately, is it going to work
with Lebron That's another story. They multy both rotten. He
may have great basketball IQ and get out of double teams,
but they both play the same way. Basically, Yeah, yeah,
you know, Lebron a little bit more at the rim
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still than Luca was never a you know, a high flyer,
but still can score with anybody. When you talk about
two guys that know how to score, both those guys
can do that. And again again it's just cause it
really is going to come down to supporting cast. As
much as those guys can can play and can score,
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you need and we said this last year, they need
that third option. Doesn't need to be a third guy
that they pay another, you know, forty fifty million dollars to,
But somebody on every given night's got to be that
third score, that third guy that comes into the mix.
It's got it Downtown La Many thank you for holding
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Hey, guys, I'm absolutely thrilled by the trade, but I
think a lot of people are.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Missing some of the major points.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
In order for this trade to happen, the Lakers had
to believe that Anthony Davis was not the next torch
bearer and the carrier.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
For the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
So this this was this was almost like a blessing
in this guise. And you have to look back at
all these previous trades like Kevin Durant, look at how
many first round picks and how much mortgage was given
up to get you know, premier players. You're getting the
guy in his prime at twenty five years old, who
is going to be probably, as I assume, the next
torch bearer for the Lakers. So I think this is
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a dream come true for Lakers fans. And I haven't
been to a game since Kobe Bryant. I'm already looking
at tickets for Lucas.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So I'm back.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Lakers are back, baby.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Appreciate it. Thanks Manning.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
There you go that that's the exclamation point of my
point of earlier. He puts people in the seats. I'm back, baby.
By the way, when you talk about Anthony Davis and
the one A and the torch bearer, I understand what
you're saying, but I would ask you to look at
this together. Lamrod and a d weren't going to win,
So did it matter who the next torch bearer was.
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The team wasn't going to win. It wasn't going to
win the title. And if that's the case, who cares
who the next torch bearer is? The next torch bearer
should be somebody that was here and won a couple.
They won one, they haven't won in a while, and
they weren't going to win this year and probably next year.
So I think it's more a situation where a that
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team can't win the championship, be you need somebody to
put fans in the seats. Ask you this, Okay, Lebron's gone,
and let's say he stays both years. So it was
the way it was, and he leaves, he's done. Who
are you gonna pay to see? Anthony Davis or Luca?
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Who are you gonna pay to see? You're gonna pay
to see Luca. And that's how the Lakers are built.
They're built with stars. Put people in the seats. That's
not to diminish Anthony Davis's skill, but you're gonna pay
to see Luca. Uh okay, neimaiyah in menafee, go ahead,
you're on.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
How's it going, guys, I'm actually good. I'm thrilled with
the trade. I love Luca, to be honest. I hate
to see ad go. Also Max Christy, I feel like
he was finally coming into one of his own, such
a young player at twenty one. But I would be
lying if I said I wasn't thrilled to see Luca.
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I would love to see the Lakers, though, push for
a center before the trade deadline. Nothing crazy though, like
maybe a Robert Williams from Portland. I don't think he'll
be too expensive. He helped Boston a lot when they
were going through those final struggles, but.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He is always hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
So I would love to hear you guys thoughts.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Thank you appreciate that call.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, they need a center, they need a big and
and so that's what's going to be missing. And how
do they go about getting that, you know? And and
what can they do at the trade And who else
do they got to give up? Is Austin Reeves, you know,
possibly a guy Rudy Hachima.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I think one other thing that we, you know, haven't
talked a whole lot about since we started talking about
this is I think that I think dalphin connect is
also going to benefit from Luca being here, Luca playing
with Lebron, I think he's gonna get the more he plays,
the more open looks he's gonna get as well. So
he's gonna be a key factor going forward. But how
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do they get that big at the trade deadline? What
do they got to give up?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Adrian in Baldwin Park, all right, you're happy because you
thought it was time to cut with a D.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
That is correct, Rogan Rodney, glorious day in Lakerland today.
I am absolutely thrilled with this trade. AD just started
to stand for always disabled guys. What can we do?
The guy's never on the court. When he is, he's stellar.
When he's not, we suffer.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Right.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
One last thing with that is I just wish we
could have included Brodney in this trade right at the
same time, it is what it is. You cannot spell
Luca without la boys.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
As for the AD point, yeah, he does get hurt,
but Rodney, you made this point earlier, and I have
to agree. It's not like I was by any stretch
of the imagination. No, no, And you got to give
him credit for that. I mean, if you're gonna tear
him down like that when he was not on the court,
you got I mean, yes, he's got the scrain now,
but for the most part over the last year and
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a half, he has been available, and he has been
dominant when he's been available.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's the thing. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know, let's not forget Letes' not act like Luca
coming in as a guy that plays nine eighty two
games a season either. You know he's hurt right now.
And the question and the reason Dallas got rid of
him because he wasn't in shape and its conditioning was
a factor. So is he going to have to change
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his ways? Yes, he's a guy that gets hurt. Yes,
So you're gonna deal with the same issues that you
dealt with with Ad.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's going down to Irvine Lee. We appreciate your holding,
so you think you like the trade, But but what.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
But what is that br Lebron and Luca have to
have the ball in their hands. They're gonna kill your offense.
And we can never develop our young players with these
guys hogging the ball. They'll be cute on the cut
ends and cut arounds, but the game is made in
one from the inside out. And we've got two Hall
(33:18):
of Fame players that love to play on the perimeter.
And Lebron has never done the dirty works. He sins around,
directs traffic. It's cute, it's fun, but he never gets
down and does the dirty works. He who wants someone
else to do the dirty works? The young brother in
Detroit during the nineteen year old He's ready, but there's
not much to choose from and I won't go back
(33:39):
to d White. Howard, thank you all right, and.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We'll go Randy in Riverside, Randy, wrap it up, Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Well, think it's a good trade. It makes perfect business
sense because we can go forward with something. The big
what is for me is what happens to Lebron, because
with Lebron you have Bronni and he's going to want
to stay to secure his son's future in the NBA
because we don't think he's still going to be here
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after Lebron leaves.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wait to be a first round Wait, wait, Bronnie signed
more than a one year deal, no matter what, right
I'm trying to remember, not.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Right, but but but but but do the Lakers keep
him though? After Bron's gone? Yeah, Lebron, go ahead and
go go go with Steph Curry. Let's see what we
can get for him and start building. And and it's
going to have to be some hard times. Laker fans
are going to have to be patient because this isn't
going to be a turnaround right away. But you know,
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Luca is somebody that the other guys can get with.
Other players will probably want to come here now and
play with him, and and that's kind of been our
big secret that nobody really talks about, you know, that
people don't want to come here. We might be able
to get another superstar in this in this city.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Now, well, keep in mind, I appreciate the call, Thanks
rand uh Lebron's got to agree to any deal. They
just can't say you're traded. You can't have the secret
conversations that he's gone because he's got to agree to it.
And ultimately that said I don't have a conversation with him,
And wasn't that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Wasn't that wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Part of the issue coming out of Dallas though, was
that guys didn't want to necessarily play with Luca down there.
I have a few years back that was grumblings out
of Dallas that they wouldn't whole lot of players wanted
to go down to Dallas and play with him, and guys.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Might not have that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Jalen Brynce doesn't mean he wanted to get out of there,
you know, and Luca didn't like playing with Jalen Brunson
when they had that run with him got out of
them with New York.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I think they didn't want to pay him was the issue.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
There was grumblings. There was grumblings. My point is there
was grumblings that there were not a whole lot of
guys that wanted to play with Luca.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well and also Lebronni question, which I guess is valid. First,
if lebron sat down after the season, I'm telling you
where he could make an impact.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
He could make an impact in Phoenix, he could help them.
But the Bronni question, if you want to stay, if
you want to stay here just so Bronni continues, I
think that's kind of selfish.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think he gets I think he got he got
him here, he got him in and you know, got
him some visibility. But I don't think he stays long
term or stays extra to secure Ronnie's Ronnie's spot. I
think he did what he wanted to do was play
with his son. You know, Lebron's a realist too. He
knows Bronnie's got a long way to go. And I
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don't think he stays here to try to push playing
time for Bronnie. If there's a situation for him to
go elsewhere. I think he is. He has got done
what he accomplished and wanted to accomplish, which is get
him in the NBA and get a chance to play
with his son.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
And he made history, and now I was time to
keep on moving.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Rodney, it looks like your guy's got an open, open
door if he wants to come back to the Dodgers,
let's go. Looks like your guys got it up. Let's
see if he walks through the door. We'll talk about
that next Hey, Hey, Today's Afternoon Delight is Houston Atlantaville
(37:28):
by ES T G.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
This song is the lead singer off the Louisville Natives
sophomore album entitled I I.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Ain't Feeling You, which dropped over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Twelve track project features artists like A Little Baby, Travis Scott,
rodl Rodriguez, and more. Again, Today's Afternoon Delight is Houston
Atlantaville by ES T J. Yeah, players had to say,
(38:07):
Key k Hernandez, your guy. That's the guy you want.
I think most Dodger fans would love to have him back.
If you look at it realistically, there's no roster spot
right now. There's nowhere to put him, But that doesn't
mean there won't be a place to put him. Brandon
Gohm said the door will never be closed on key K.
Andrew Friedman basically said the same thing, which tells me
(38:31):
they would love to have him. The doors never closed.
There's a report that the Yankees have kicked the tires
a little bit on him. But does that sound to
you like, this is what it is? Will you take
it and play? Because that's what I took it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
As we're sitting here and you know, this is what
we can offer you, whatever that is, and if you
take it, you're in.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Did you read it like that or no? Yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
They made him an offer, gave him this is what
we what we got and what can offer you. You know,
I don't know if it's take it or leave it,
but it's got to be in that neighborhood. It's got
to be in that ballpark. So if you're asking and
trying to get, you know, a couple million dollars more
and two more years on a deal, then that's we
(39:20):
can't do that. If it's close, I think they would
would have a discussion. But I think it's pretty pretty
close to what the Dodgers they are willing to do for
Key K and for them to say he and his
wife and family have to figure it out. Is like, here,
we put it on the table for you, Kik, whatever
you want to do, it's open for you. If you
want to take it. If you can find something better
(39:42):
out there, then all means go go chase it. And
and God bless you. But I think they have kept
it there for him and offered him something. Now we
don't know what that is, but I think it's something
that's on the table for Kik, whether he wants to
accept it or not.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So let's say took it. Let's say he said I'm back.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And honestly, as we sit here and think about it,
you have to assume he'll want to come back. So
something has to give. And what could that be? What
is that thing that could give that roster spot, the
forty man roster?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
What might it be? Chris Taylor? Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I think we gotta you know, there's a lot of
things that are uncertain going into the season, though, Fred
that there guy, a lot of guys are gonna be
on the il that that can't start the season, that
had just had surgeries or coming off injuries, and and
and until we got the full scope of all of
those guys, it's kind of hard to say, is who's
(40:46):
gonna be on who's going to be off, because we
don't know if these guys are gonna be down and
for for two months to start the season, or won't
be back until June, or won't be back until July,
and and so there's a there's there's still some unknown
and until we know all that, and it's it's hard
to say who's gonna who's gonna be cut or who's
gonna lose a roster spot because they got to sign
(41:07):
Key k Well.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Keep this in mind, the majority of those guys are
pictures that we're talking about. You know, who's gonna be healthy,
who's not, who's gonna be ready, who's not the majority
of that group, they're pictures And you can only carry
somebody guys on the bench so many reserves. So I
think that's where the dilemma is. Uh, there's only so
(41:30):
many spots. And you know we I think we talked
about this last week, Rodney. If you'll just break it down,
who is it. It's Mickey Rojas, It's Chris Taylor and
who else? PAHZ. But they're not gonna move him. They're
not gonna not give him a roster spot. So who
(41:51):
else could it be?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Outman? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
But again, Dalton Rushing will be in the forty man roster.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Do you think I don't know that. You don't know that. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
They want to see him up here this year. Yeah,
but that doesn't mean he's gonna be up here at
the beginning. They may not bring him up until Midsummer.
They want to want him to start out down in
Triple A and see how he starts off the season,
then bring him up. I wouldn't guarantee a guy that's
not been up here yet to begin the season on
the forty man.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I'm just saying I think something would have to give,
somebody would have to go.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, yeah, somebody is gonna be I don't think you know,
like I said, you keep throwing out Dawnt Rushing. I
don't think as much as they are high on him,
I don't think he was what they have. If they
had deficiencies and you know, we're in this dilemma of
trying to find a roster spot for Kik, then yeah,
he'd be up there right away, getting his swings in
and be ready to go as soon as they called
(42:52):
upon him. But they've got options and they don't have
to rush him up here, even as much as they
want to see him. I think they play it by
year and then when the time is right they can
bring him up. They'll bring him up. But k K
won't start the season in the miners. I mean, he's
got to be in the big league. No, k won't rushing,
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
But in the big league club, Well, there's got to
be a big league roster spot, and those spots are
Taylor Rojas out. I don't think Autman starts on the
big club. I think it's gonna be Piez. I mean,
David Vasse would know better than we would, but I
just am guessing.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, given them last year, in the production of last year,
and and and Outman fallen off a little bit, Yeah,
it's gonna be Piz.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well there you go, No, you know, yeah, there you go. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think he's just the backham catcher. Yeah, so he's
not going anywhere. But yeah, and they wouldn't say this,
throw it out there to have key K be a guy.
We're going to start you in Oklahoma City. No, that
ain't happening, No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
So the door is open.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
And from all intents and purposes, The question becomes when
will kick a walk through it? Okay, we saved the
best for last this hour. Eric Dickerson's on today. That's
the show coming up after the break, and we've got
(44:20):
a ton of stuff to get into and we'll start
getting ready for the super Bowl as well
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