April 11, 2025 • 35 mins
Vinny Bonsignore hops on as we are less than 2 weeks away from the NFL Draft. Tennessee's starting QB is holding out of practice until he gets a better NIL deal. The Angels are off to an 8-4 start - is it fools gold?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete on a
Friday on a five seventy LA sports Dodgers and Cubs
at the stadium tonight. Yamamoto will be on the hill
for the Dodgers. They'll try to get back into the
swing of it. They did win in Washington and then
able to get out of the East Coast and come home.
They'll try to turn things around. They have the Cubs
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and the Rockies at the stadium and you will hear
every game right here on the radio station. But as
we progress through baseball and get ready for playoffs in
basketball and hockey, the NFL draft is just around the corner.
So we need to check in with our good friend
Vinnie Bond signor Vinnie. Thanks for jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
How are you guys doing doing okay?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Can we start with this? Vinnie reports that Shador Sanders
does not want to be drafted by any of the
current teams in the top three. Could this be an
Eli Lway situation?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I read it differently, and I think the reader is
shared by people that I talked to the NFL. It's
more to me about they're kind of getting the head
or in front of the fact that it looks like
the Tennessee Titans are going camp ward, it looks like
the Cleveland Browns are leaning toward Travis Hunter, and the
New York Giants might be looking at Abdul Carter or
somebody else. So I think he's trying to get around,
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get ahead of it, the old I'm going to break
up with you before you guys break up with me
a routine and make it look like, no, this was
my call, when it was really their call. It kind
of is what it is. But no, I don't think
that he's trying to I think you would be glad
to get drafted in the top three. Obviously you're going
to make more money. And the Giants are great organization.
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I know that they've been on hard times, and the
Cleveland Browns, you know, these are established programs. So I
don't think that he's looking to not go to any
of those places. I think he's trying to again get
in front of the fact that maybe they're not looking
his way as his I.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Mean, you know, guys stock go up and down, you know,
over even over a twenty four hour period, and his
seems to have gone up down all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Where is it now, Man, what are people saying about him?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? And Rodney, you know this, everything is beauty is
in the eye of the beholder. There's thirty two different
teams and I always kind of chuckle a little bit
when we get to this close to the draft and
all of a sudden you hear names going up and
the games going down and all this, when the reality is,
we don't know, because that would require getting into the
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heads of thirty two different teams and decision makers, and
there's no one, you know, draft board out there. There's
thirty two different draft boards, and so we can speculate,
we can do what we do this time of year
and read between the lines whatever it is that we do,
and come draft night be completely wrong. So, you know,
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I think that to me, he's a top some quarterback,
a top ten pick. Whether he gets drafted in there
is going to is going to come down to need timelines,
all of those types of things. Like a month ago,
the Raiders made a lot of sense, But now that
they've got Geno Smith, does he make as much sense anymore?
Gino's under contract for three years. Sudor is a guy
that I think can get on the field pretty early.
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In the NFL. So it's all going to be, uh
you know, uh predicated on on that and how each
team looks at him. But you know, I guess if
we're if we're reading into certain things that it does
feel like maybe he's not going to get drafted as
high as we initially thought.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So you think he'd be a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think he's going to be a really good NFL quarterback.
And you know, I've talked to enough people who say,
you know, we get we get caught up so much
in the arm strength and the athletic ability when the
fact is quarterback play, high end quarterback play still comes
down to above the shoulders and from that regard the processing,
the accuracy, the understanding of the offense. He's as good
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as it gets in this in this draft, and I
stand by that. I know a lot of other people
stand by it as well. I think he's got a
bright future as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, no doubt why. That's why.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But you know this any is anybody you It really
depends on where you go and and you know, if
you have the leverage as we just talked about trying
to weed some teams out or letting them know that
I'm not uh, I'm not too excited about being drafted.
There you could get stuck in a situation where it's
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it's not good for you and your career gets derailed
because you go to the wrong place.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And and and so I don't mind him doing that.
To me, It is.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Really more about where he lands and who's coaching them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I agree. And you know who's a perfect example
of that, Geno Smith. You know, look at Geno Smith
over the last three years, and you know, I feel
bad in a way for Gino. You know, obviously he's
making his money and he's turned his career around. But
there's still a lot of people rad Rader fans included
that that that their that their image of him. Is
it not working out with the New York Jets, And
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we can make the argument that quarterbacks go to die
with the New York Jets talking right exactly. Yeah, So
many examples of that, and yet it's kind of held
against them a little bit, and I think people some
people still have never gotten over that when the reality
is is it's exactly what you just said, was it
It's more of the situation. So was it Geno's fault
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that it didn't work out with the New York Jets
or was it the Jets fault? And I'll say this,
I feel it was more of the Jets fault because
there's a track record now of the Jets flubbing quarterbacks,
whether it's Geno Smith or Sam Darnold or or others.
It's a reality and you have to take that into account.
I'm right there with you. Situations absolutely one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Count Benny, How can you explain this? We talked about
it yesterday. Three officials, and from what I'm told, they
just weren't ready for the NFL. Basically, they were bad
hires and the league evaluated their performance and said, now
these they're not right for us, so they demoted them
to college. Well how does that work? Did they call
a conference and say, hey, we've got a couple of
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people for you. Can you take them in? Because the
college ranks is not the farm system for NFL officials.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's that's for sure. And you know, I'm my hope
is that you know, they weren't terrible referees, they just
weren't quite ready for the NFL, and so they need
a little bit more honing. It doesn't mean that they're
really bad referees. It just means that maybe they just
weren't ready for Sundays and they need some more time
working on Saturdays to get to Sunday. But here's the thing,
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you know, short of having a tiple A or a
double A, where where do aspiring NFL referees who might
not be ready for the pro game and the speed
and all that, where do they go to hone their game?
If not, what's essentially the minor leagues for football, and
that's for college football. Now that might drive I was
just about ready to say the pack, Well, I guess
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there is a PAC twelve now, but you know, the
refereeing sometimes at the PAC twelve left a lot to
be desired. And you could probably say that for a
lot of conferences. And I'm sure there's a lot of
fans that are like, seriously, we don't need worse referees.
We need better referees in our conference. So there is
a little bit of give and take there. You're you're
taking the worst of the NFL and putting it in
college that doesn't do the college program is much good.
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But my hope again is that it's not that they're terrible,
it's that they need a little bit more honing, a.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Lot more honing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So, so talk about the Raiders and what they're looking
for in the draft, you know, and some say this
is not a very strong draft. I mean, there's some
players there, but not a very strong draft. And maybe
running back wise it's a strong draft. Other than that,
it's not so great. What are the Raiders looking to do?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, and I would say about this draft, Rodney, it's
not that there's not a whole lot of megastars, but
if you play your cards right, you're gonna this is
a very solid draft in terms of getting NFL ready
starters right now, and maybe three or four of them.
If you play your cards right and you're draft, you're
gonna be able to come up with It might not
be the superstars, but you're gonna get good football players
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are going to be able to help immediately. And the
Raiders are in an interesting spot at number six. And
unless there's a major surprise, and I wouldn't roll out
against the Jacksonville Jaguars or maybe even the New England
Patriots taking an aston dente, but it feels like he's
going to be there for the Raiders to decide. Is
that a viable spot for a running back? I think yes, absolutely.
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This guy is so good to me and he kind
of reminds me of a Ledalien, Tomlinson, Our Marshall Fock,
Saquon Bark. He's that good. And I know that there's
you know, there's there's a school of thought that you
don't draft a running back that high. But if you're
the Raiders and you've got Brock Bowers and he's your
one real blue chip, impact offensive player, don't you want
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to add another impact blue chip offensive player at running back.
That's going to help the Brock Barers, it's gonna help
Geno Smith, it's going to help the higher offensive operation.
This guy can catch the ball, he can block, he
can run it. He's fantastic. So if I'm the Raiders,
that's who I'm looking at at at pick number six. Now,
maybe you could, maybe you could come up with a
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scenario where they trade down a few spots and it
makes it more viable to adopt a running back at
number ten or eleven or nine and get something for
your for your trouble to move down. But if I'm
the Raiders, I'm seriously looking at asking Jenky. I think
he's got superpowers and the ability to really lift your
offense and lift the entire offensive operation. You're passing game
and your run game.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
All right, Vinny, So you mentioned it looks like cam
Ward's going to go number one. You think he's a
shoeing for the Titans. But what about Abdul Carter? What
about Travis Hunter?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah? I think I think it feels like the Cleveland
Browns are on Travis Hunter, and the question there is
going to be do they make him a cornerback or
do they make him a wide receiver. You can make
a case for him playing wide receiver on that team.
That's that's very interesting for him because number one, I
don't see that he's going to be able to do both.
It's just too hard and too taxing to play both
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positions at this level. So he's probably gonna have to
pick one or the other and maybe do some situational
spot play, whether it's cornerback or wide receiver. But it'll
be interesting to see what teams view him as the
best fit for them at what position. So the Cleveland Browns,
whereas the Giants might need him as a cornerback, the
Browns might need him as a wide receiver, so it'll
be interesting to check that. So I think he goes
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he goes there at number two, and I really feel
like Abdul Carter and the Giants are a perfect fit.
And now both teams, the Browns and the Giants will
have to figure out quarterback at either another point in
the draft or maybe punt on quarterback this year and
relook at the position next year. But you know, especially
with Sadr Sanders, they're they're to me, they're taking a
little bit of a risk, But I do think that
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that's kind of how it's going to play out.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, what about the Rams betting? What about the Rams?
What are they looking to do?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Keep an eye on the Jalen milro is coming in
for a visit with the Rams, and people that I
talk to indicate that Sean mcgay is really high on
Jalen Milroe. And I don't know about you, Rodney, but
when I do look at this quarterback class, and I
know there's some flaws with Jalen Milroe, but I've seen
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enough good of him, especially his not last season, but
the season before he played really well with Nick Saban.
There was a coaching chains, there was some guys that
left the you know, left the scene and replaced with
other players. So I don't know how much to make
of the fallback that he had last year and how
much to put it on the fact that he was
learning an entirely new system. There were new teammates and
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all that. Don't want to make excuses, but I do
look at the tape in twenty twenty three and I
liked what I saw, and I feel like of all
the quarterbacks in this draft, he has the highest ceiling.
And what better place to go than the Rams who
could afford to put developmental time into him. That've got
Matthew Stafford for a couple more years, and maybe when
Matthew Stafford is ready to leave, Jalen Milroe is ready
to step in. So I would keep an eye on that, Betty.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A final question for you, So it's been reported that
NFL revenue is just killing it and teams are going
to receive a four hundred and sixteen million dollar distribution
from the shared TV sponsorship and licensing revenue. That's an
awful lot of money to make, so after all expenses
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are paid. I mean, what do you think these clubs make.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
If you're not making money in the NFL, you probably
have to go back to finance class or something like that.
But yeah, it's it's it's a money maker. It blows
everything away. And you know, there's some markets that are
doing better than others. Obviously here with the Raiders, I mean,
they're just they're just rolling around in money right now.
So I don't you will never know. We'll probably never
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know exactly how much money teams make, but they're not
losing any money. And everything that that that you do make,
you have the ability to put back into your team
one way or another. But there's a reason, there's a
reason why people are buying into the NFL, guys like
Tom Brady and you know the three different you know,
minority owners that they have that invested you know, five percent,
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ten percent into the Raiders because they're making money for
their for their investment, and we'll make a lot more
money over the over the course of time because it's
a no fail money making machine. It doesn't shock me
that that they're cutting more checks for everybody. It's an
incredible look at the commission you've made sixty three million
dollars last year. Sixty three million dollars last year. What's
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that all come from the revenue that he helps create for
the NFL. So it's it's an incredible amount of money,
and uh, it's just getting more and more every year.
That's why the salary cap continues to go up every
single year.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, right, well, any thank you, thank you for coming on,
and have a terrific weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, you guys too, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
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got a holdout in sports? Oh oh it's a college,
but we have a holdout to report.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's Friday. We don't care. Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,
come on, talk tall Fred.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Some years ago we made the comment about college sports.
Stop calling these people student athletes. Stop stop they're athlete students.
Don't confuse the two. When the NCAA comes out and
talks about student athletes, I want a wretch. I just
I cannot believe how incredibly disingenuous. That is, they are
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athletes and students. Not at the Division three level, probably
not at the Division two level, and certainly not if
you're a walk on at a D one program, you're
paying for the right to go to school. You are
a student athlete. But in Division one college athletics, in
major programs, these kids are athletes first and student second.
(15:06):
When Rodney went to USC, he wanted to be part
of the Cardinal and Gold. He was there, that was
his school. I don't know if back then, if you
could have transferred every year to make more money somewhere else,
if you would have done it because you got paid,
because you got paid pretty well at USC. Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
What are we saying? Did I use my outside voice? Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, anyway, well well whatever that was then, this is now.
The point is this kids today, and if you are
a major college athlete, don't care where they go to school.
I'm being dead series. Sure, if there's a choice or two,
they'll make it. But this is no different than professional
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free agency. Who's paying me the most? And by the way,
after this year, I may go somewhere else, Well they'll
pay me more. So what you have to do is
keep in mind, I'm available to the highest bidder. I'm
a mercenary. I will go where the money is great,
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and that doesn't mean my whole life. I wanted to
go to Arizona State, and that's where I'm going to stay.
You could be out of there in fifteen seconds and
not even look back. And that's why it's even more
comical where you have these kids. Well, you know, listen,
it's going to be tough because we've got finals and
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we have playoffs or a tournament, finals for what These
guys will be gone in ten minutes if they get
the chance. Why not just call it what it is?
So let's start with that. Why not just call it
what it is? Collegiate sports is now a business. It's
been a business for the academic institutions and now it's
a business for the players.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
But then, il so it's the minor leagues. It's the
minor leagues. It's minor leagues.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, it's triple A version of A. Yes, okay, it's
triple A.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Nico ima I aliva, fred I'll help you out.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know I.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Had it, but then you confused me.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Of course, of course you did I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Gonna call him.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So he's missing practices at Tennessee. He plays at Tennessee
and he's missing quarterback. He's their quarterback. He's missing practices. Uh,
third year quarterback. But he's not practicing because right now
he is trying to negotiate a new nil deal. He
is in the midst of negotiations to make more money
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before he goes to practice. That guy's a student athlete
like I am. He's not gonna go to practice unless
he gets paid. That's the bottom line, unless he gets
a new deal.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Is he going to class?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't think he's doing anything. If I was him,
I wouldn't do a damn thing. I go home, go wherever.
Why is he going to class?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What are they gonna do? Suspend him? Oh you didn't
go to class. Now we just paid your five million
dollars a year, but you didn't go to math, so
you're out. Oh sure he is.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Did you miss philosophy period three? Oh you're that's it work.
You're gonna such a place Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like, is there such a thing as academically ineligible anymore?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
How could there be? There can't be, right, Okay, Rodney,
here's the deal. I've just paid you two and a
half million dollars a year, yeah, to go to the
USC and play quarterback. I'm paying you. Here's your money. Yeah,
and you've decided that you absolutely hate by biology. Yes,
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not only do you hate it, you know nothing about it.
You have no desire to learn anything, and believe in
no way, shape or form will it be beneficial for
your life.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But you had to enroll because you had to enroll
in something.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, you had to take a science, right.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So they put you in biology.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Biology is nine am, three days a week, two.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Days a week, Monday through Friday, or Monday Wednesday Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, three days a week, nine am.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
You know something, Rodney, you don't want to go. As
a matter of fact, I don't do things on Monday
Monday morning, are you kidding me? Yeah, Friday before the game,
Friday day before the game. Come on, So you're not
gonna go now. By not going, of course, not only
are you missing class, you have no idea what's going
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on in the class. Therefore you can't really do anything
in the class. But somebody says occasionally you got to
do something, So you show up on a Wednesday, you've
read nothing, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They hand out some sort of test or quiz and
they tell everybody to take it. You know as much
about biology as you know about moon science, but you
take the test because you're sitting there and you're Rodney.
Of course, when it comes back, it's great. On the curve.
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It says you need remedial courses. You don't know anything
about biology.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes's remedial, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So now the professor comes in and the professor says, Rodney,
you're failing this class. I mean, this is awful. I've
looked at your attendance and you've showed up twice. You've
only turned in one piece of work, and it basically
said you know biology to third grade level. You know
nothing about biology. So I'm gonna have to report this.
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And who are you gonna report it to? Who are
you gonna tell Rodney makes two and a half million
dollars a year to play football on saturdays. Sorry, chief,
I don't know anything about biology. What are you gonna
do to me? What are you gonna do? I make
two and a half million dollars playing football on saturdays.
I don't know anything about biology.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
On way, and and by the way, because we're ranked
number four in the country, we play on TV every week.
And by that, I am making this school seven million
dollars every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And on top of it, because we're ranked fourth in
the country, I get a fifty thousand dollars game bonus.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yes in my nil yes, and them is full and
stadium is full.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Right because we are ranked four within the country. Who
are you gonna tell? Who's gonna stop me from playing?
Who's gonna say? Well, Rodney doesn't know biology, he can't play,
matter of the way. Yeah, Rodney doesn't know math either.
He doesn't go to that either. Rodney doesn't care. He
doesn't go to math class. He doesn't know math, he
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doesn't no biology. Who's gonna you know what? Rodney doesn't
go to his English class?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You know why?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
He doesn't care? What are you gonna do to me?
He prefers Spanish, right, And you put me in this
and I'm just not gonna do it. And by the way,
if you put me in Spanish, I wouldn't do that either.
But the point is, but the point is, what are
you gonna do English? Why do I need to take
English class? Yes, yes, I had that very argument when
I was in junior college and did not go well
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at the end where I called the teacher an old hand.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh that sounds like something in a sixth grader would say,
I speak English? What I didn't take English for?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I tried that. By the way, I did something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I bet you did. Fred. It sounds like very believable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
By the way, Fred, what is moon science exactly? I
don't know. I just made it up. How do I
know that? Did you mean astronomy? No, it's moon science.
It's a certain course. It's a special course.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's the remediate course.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Amy, by the way, says you did ask.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I didn't look up.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
The last Division one college football player to be declared
academically ineligible. Yeah, a receiver at Purdue in twenty twenty two. Wow,
three years ago was the last time a D one
player was declared academically ineligible.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And he probably wasn't getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, right, if somebody is getting paid, Oh, that's it.
I gotta be honest, man, you've missed too many study halls.
We're gonna have to do something to you. What are
you gonna do to me?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You got to stop me. What what's the penalty here?
Let me tell you what the penalty is. If you
say another word to me, I'll get you fired. How
do you like that? I make two and a half
million dollars? What do you make? Professor?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's just wrong. So instead of calling these kids student
athletes at the Division one level, let's just do what
it is. It's a professional league. People get paid. Sure,
you hope they pick something up along the way academically,
that would be nice. If not, why are we doing this?
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I love in March madness and even during NCAA football games,
you know, you get the commercial, the branding spot from
Purdue or the branding spot from the University of Kentucky
or the NC DOUBLEA, and it shows, you know, kids
in class looking through a telescope and then they're walking
in a forest looking at the trees and somebody's building
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a robot and they say the NC DOUBLEA student athletes.
I assure you the kids that are Division one athletes
right now are not building a robot. Probably not. They're
just showing up and playing because they get paid. So
let's stop. Starting quarterback at Tennessee is holding out. He
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didn't try it. He's holding out. I'll just say, or
do you pay me what I want? And I guess
if you don't pay me, somebody else will balls in
your court. Is this a kid that wants to graduate
from Tennessee and be a volunteer, Well, he's waiting to
get paid. He's not volunteering for anything. This guy wants
money and he should have it. That's the way the
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system works.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
At the Division three level, that's different. There are no
well there are nil, but no scholarships. You pay to
go to a Division three school, you're a student athlete.
If you don't go to class at a Division three school,
you don't play. That's the way it works. Division two, man,
the rules are a little a little iffy there, Yeah,
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a little blurred a little bit. Yeah, in Division two
you can get a scholarship and you can get an IL.
But Division one, come on, enough with the student athlete stuff.
And and they just should rebrand it and call these
guys what they are. They're pros. They are pros.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They are they are the again, they're the they're the
NFL minor league.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know, some will make it, some won't. Some, you know,
keep going and it'll be their sixth year in college
and you know, make another five million.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Dollars because they decide to stay and not go into
the draft, because they'll make more in college and they'll
make being a free agent in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I mean we see that all the time too.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
The guys are okay, Okay, I spent two years here
getting you to the playoffs, but now I'm gonna transfer
to Oregon because they're gonna pay me more.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh but we were gearing.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Up for this this title run. Oh yeah, but yeah,
but Oregon's gonna pay me more. I'm gonna go there
and play my last year, or Miami's gonna play pay
me more. So I'm gonna go there instead of stay
at Georgia because they gotta pay me more.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right, it's not I gotta be a bulldog for life. No,
I want money. Same in college basketball. Mccronod will tell
you what are you doing. Well, I'm just trying to
put the money together to start making offers. Start making offers.
You're not recruiting anybody, You're you're offering them money. How
much you got, Okay, I figured it out. I give
you this, I give you that is that enough. Yeah, okay,
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come on, they're like signing guys the old signing day
and everybody gets really excited. And this is where I'm
committing to. On signing day, you sign a check. That's
how it works now, So stop calling him student athlete. Basketball,
college baseball, at the entire D one level, any program
that can generate revenue. You don't think some of the
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girls at us are gonna get paid in the basketball program.
You don't think some of the women at you you're
all going to get paid in a basketball program. You
don't think somebody will pay the really good ones.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And women women they can't. They can't leave early. Now,
like the men can go one and done, women can't
can't go Why is that? Why is women can't go
one and done?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They should? They should be able to men do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
They can't. The men do.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
The women can't, right, because that's a w n b A.
They should figure out a way to do it. Sure,
why not? Because that's what it is. Call it what
it is. Stop squirting the issue. Call it what it is.
These guys are athletes. They get paid, and the majority
of them at that level truly could care less where
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they go to school. They want to go to a
nice place, the place that gives them the best chance
to make money.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
No more of this loyalty.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I grew up a Bruin or I grew up a Trojan,
and I want to play there and I can't wait
to get there. No, if it doesn't work out, you're
going someone else. If somebody paid you more. You know,
like if you're at sc or Ucla and across town
they say, hey, we like your game, We're gonna pay you.
We'll pay you X. You're going across town. You're You're
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not staying there. It's just the way it is now.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, who's a bigger surprise in baseball so far this year?
The San Francisco Giants or the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Let's talk about that. Come on, let's go Rodney Pete
fred Rogan on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We don't care Friday, Let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We don't care. Say what though Angel fans have a
little reason to smile, they care a bit. Look at
these Angels. They're off to an eight and four start.
I mean, San Francisco Giants are nine and four, Angels
are eight and four. Dodgers or ten and four So
you think the Angels they are coming out of the
blocks fast. Yeah, team maybe coming together. What do you think, Rodney,
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is this start of something big?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
No offense?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Kevin, You know, I kind of feel the way about
the Angels the way you feel about the Giants' fread.
They come out of the gate fast. But it ain't
gonna last. Ain't gonna last because it just it's the Angels.
It's the Angels, you know. And and and I'm not
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saying that because I'm hoping that. I just the track
record says so. And I'm ashamed to say, or not shame,
but I'm just sad to say that it's gonna be
a disappointment again for Angel fans. I mean we're only
what eleven game, twelve games into the season, but the
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Angels went they nine to four, eight and four am
twelve games into the season. So you know, it's a
good start. It's exciting start, but you gotta believe it's
not gonna last. Yeah, We'll look at it like this.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Anything is better than what it was, Anything is better
than what has happened, and at least gets the reason
for people to smile and have some hope. Now, I
don't want to dash their hopes because that's not nice.
But you know, the Rangers are nine and four, the
Angels are eight and four. You've got Houston and Seattle.
I'm just glad. Okay, you know what the best news
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about this is? Seriously, what day does this April eleventh? Yes,
the best news is that on April eleventh, the Angels
have not been mathematically eliminated yet.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh good news.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
That means art they can keep charging full price.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh well, you know he wants to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know he will. Matter of fact, we're right right
behind the first place team. We're gonna double prices. You're
seeing something you haven't seen in a while here.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, the Angels stay there, much like the the Atlanta Braves,
who are in last place in the NL East right now,
like they're gonna stay there. Anybody believed the Lanta Brave
is gonna be in last place and it's all said
and done in the NL East, No, No Philly's made,
No Philly's mets, and and the Brave is gonna be
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in a dog fight throughout the whole season. But to
suggests that Miami Marlin is gonna finish ahead of the
Braves or the Washington Nationals.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, they beat the Dodgers in the.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Series, are gonna finish ahead of the Brave No, so yeah,
it's great while it's going right now, Like you mentioned,
they can charge full price right now down at Anaheut, It's.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
All good, Kevin. You would adhered to my theory. You
would have here to my theory. When a team is
mathematically eliminated, tickets are reduced to have price. I mean,
given what you flip through.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, I look, I don't think it will ever happen,
and on to some level it does make sense, But
I just don't think it's practical enough that it's even
really worth discussing in front of the honestly.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Okay, on that flip side, do you do you if
they have clinched a playoff berth, do you get to
raise the prices.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
That's an interesting dynamic too, because it also depends if
you clinch a playoff birth and say you're running away
with your division and now you're playing what amounts to
a meaningless series against a couple of teams at the
back end of the year, and some of your best
players aren't even playing because they're resting for the postseason. Yeah,
that's a hard sell to say, like, well, I gotta pay,
you know, double the price to see a bunch of
guys who are not even playing tonight, versus if the
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team is really really bad and they're calling up a
bunch of young guys and just trying to see what
happens for the future, and you know for a fact,
like what am I watching here? I think it's more
easier to sell that than it is to say, double
the prices for a team that's actually played well.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, but if I'm yeah, Fred, Fred believed that. Fred
believe that.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
But I just don't think that you can do that
one way and not do it the other way. Like
if you're gonna if you're gonna reduce the prices when
you're you know, when you're you're mathematically out and and
and and do that, you can't if you're mathematically in,
you gotta you gotta be able to raise the prices.
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So it's gotta go, it's gotta it's gotta cut both ways.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah, I think it will be a nice gesture, Rodney.
I don't think it should be some sort of league
mandated thing or something like that. No, but I think
it'd be the sixers did this in their process years.
It's like, you know what, we have a certain level
of our seats. I don't know what it was, eight
thousand seats we give away to charities. We give away
to the y MCA, the Boys and Girls Club and
let them come in and have a night because we
know that we could sell these seats if we wanted to,
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but quite honestly, people might not even buy them. So
get them in the door. Maybe they'll buy some concessions
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, that's hard coming anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, so that's a this is our way of paying
it forward to you. We'll allow you to bring some
kids in and have some fun. But I think it's
gonna be a company on the teams to volunteer to
do it. I don't think the league will ever mandate
that a team would do something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Absolutely, whether Dodgers play, they don't have to cut ticket
prices at all. David Vassay will join us next from
the stadium as the home stand begins.
All right, we continue Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete on a
Friday on a five seventy LA sports Dodgers and Cubs
at the stadium tonight. Yamamoto will be on the hill
for the Dodgers. They'll try to get back into the
swing of it. They did win in Washington and then
able to get out of the East Coast and come home.
They'll try to turn things around. They have the Cubs
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and the Rockies at the stadium and you will hear
every game right here on the radio station. But as
we progress through baseball and get ready for playoffs in
basketball and hockey, the NFL draft is just around the corner.
So we need to check in with our good friend
Vinnie Bond signor Vinnie. Thanks for jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
How are you guys doing doing okay?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Can we start with this? Vinnie reports that Shador Sanders
does not want to be drafted by any of the
current teams in the top three. Could this be an
Eli Lway situation?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I read it differently, and I think the reader is
shared by people that I talked to the NFL. It's
more to me about they're kind of getting the head
or in front of the fact that it looks like
the Tennessee Titans are going camp ward, it looks like
the Cleveland Browns are leaning toward Travis Hunter, and the
New York Giants might be looking at Abdul Carter or
somebody else. So I think he's trying to get around,
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get ahead of it, the old I'm going to break
up with you before you guys break up with me
a routine and make it look like, no, this was
my call, when it was really their call. It kind
of is what it is. But no, I don't think
that he's trying to I think you would be glad
to get drafted in the top three. Obviously you're going
to make more money. And the Giants are great organization.
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I know that they've been on hard times, and the
Cleveland Browns, you know, these are established programs. So I
don't think that he's looking to not go to any
of those places. I think he's trying to again get
in front of the fact that maybe they're not looking
his way as his I.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Mean, you know, guys stock go up and down, you know,
over even over a twenty four hour period, and his
seems to have gone up down all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Where is it now, Man, what are people saying about him?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? And Rodney, you know this, everything is beauty is
in the eye of the beholder. There's thirty two different
teams and I always kind of chuckle a little bit
when we get to this close to the draft and
all of a sudden you hear names going up and
the games going down and all this, when the reality is,
we don't know, because that would require getting into the
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heads of thirty two different teams and decision makers, and
there's no one, you know, draft board out there. There's
thirty two different draft boards, and so we can speculate,
we can do what we do this time of year
and read between the lines whatever it is that we do,
and come draft night be completely wrong. So, you know,
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I think that to me, he's a top some quarterback,
a top ten pick. Whether he gets drafted in there
is going to is going to come down to need timelines,
all of those types of things. Like a month ago,
the Raiders made a lot of sense, But now that
they've got Geno Smith, does he make as much sense anymore?
Gino's under contract for three years. Sudor is a guy
that I think can get on the field pretty early.
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In the NFL. So it's all going to be, uh
you know, uh predicated on on that and how each
team looks at him. But you know, I guess if
we're if we're reading into certain things that it does
feel like maybe he's not going to get drafted as
high as we initially thought.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So you think he'd be a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think he's going to be a really good NFL quarterback.
And you know, I've talked to enough people who say,
you know, we get we get caught up so much
in the arm strength and the athletic ability when the
fact is quarterback play, high end quarterback play still comes
down to above the shoulders and from that regard the processing,
the accuracy, the understanding of the offense. He's as good
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as it gets in this in this draft, and I
stand by that. I know a lot of other people
stand by it as well. I think he's got a
bright future as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, no doubt why. That's why.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But you know this any is anybody you It really
depends on where you go and and you know, if
you have the leverage as we just talked about trying
to weed some teams out or letting them know that
I'm not uh, I'm not too excited about being drafted.
There you could get stuck in a situation where it's
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it's not good for you and your career gets derailed
because you go to the wrong place.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And and and so I don't mind him doing that.
To me, It is.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Really more about where he lands and who's coaching them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I agree. And you know who's a perfect example
of that, Geno Smith. You know, look at Geno Smith
over the last three years, and you know, I feel
bad in a way for Gino. You know, obviously he's
making his money and he's turned his career around. But
there's still a lot of people rad Rader fans included
that that that their that their image of him. Is
it not working out with the New York Jets, And
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we can make the argument that quarterbacks go to die
with the New York Jets talking right exactly. Yeah, So
many examples of that, and yet it's kind of held
against them a little bit, and I think people some
people still have never gotten over that when the reality
is is it's exactly what you just said, was it
It's more of the situation. So was it Geno's fault
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that it didn't work out with the New York Jets
or was it the Jets fault? And I'll say this,
I feel it was more of the Jets fault because
there's a track record now of the Jets flubbing quarterbacks,
whether it's Geno Smith or Sam Darnold or or others.
It's a reality and you have to take that into account.
I'm right there with you. Situations absolutely one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Count Benny, How can you explain this? We talked about
it yesterday. Three officials, and from what I'm told, they
just weren't ready for the NFL. Basically, they were bad
hires and the league evaluated their performance and said, now
these they're not right for us, so they demoted them
to college. Well how does that work? Did they call
a conference and say, hey, we've got a couple of
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people for you. Can you take them in? Because the
college ranks is not the farm system for NFL officials.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's that's for sure. And you know, I'm my hope
is that you know, they weren't terrible referees, they just
weren't quite ready for the NFL, and so they need
a little bit more honing. It doesn't mean that they're
really bad referees. It just means that maybe they just
weren't ready for Sundays and they need some more time
working on Saturdays to get to Sunday. But here's the thing,
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you know, short of having a tiple A or a
double A, where where do aspiring NFL referees who might
not be ready for the pro game and the speed
and all that, where do they go to hone their game?
If not, what's essentially the minor leagues for football, and
that's for college football. Now that might drive I was
just about ready to say the pack, Well, I guess
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there is a PAC twelve now, but you know, the
refereeing sometimes at the PAC twelve left a lot to
be desired. And you could probably say that for a
lot of conferences. And I'm sure there's a lot of
fans that are like, seriously, we don't need worse referees.
We need better referees in our conference. So there is
a little bit of give and take there. You're you're
taking the worst of the NFL and putting it in
college that doesn't do the college program is much good.
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But my hope again is that it's not that they're terrible,
it's that they need a little bit more honing, a.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Lot more honing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So, so talk about the Raiders and what they're looking
for in the draft, you know, and some say this
is not a very strong draft. I mean, there's some
players there, but not a very strong draft. And maybe
running back wise it's a strong draft. Other than that,
it's not so great. What are the Raiders looking to do?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, and I would say about this draft, Rodney, it's
not that there's not a whole lot of megastars, but
if you play your cards right, you're gonna this is
a very solid draft in terms of getting NFL ready
starters right now, and maybe three or four of them.
If you play your cards right and you're draft, you're
gonna be able to come up with It might not
be the superstars, but you're gonna get good football players
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are going to be able to help immediately. And the
Raiders are in an interesting spot at number six. And
unless there's a major surprise, and I wouldn't roll out
against the Jacksonville Jaguars or maybe even the New England
Patriots taking an aston dente, but it feels like he's
going to be there for the Raiders to decide. Is
that a viable spot for a running back? I think yes, absolutely.
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This guy is so good to me and he kind
of reminds me of a Ledalien, Tomlinson, Our Marshall Fock,
Saquon Bark. He's that good. And I know that there's
you know, there's there's a school of thought that you
don't draft a running back that high. But if you're
the Raiders and you've got Brock Bowers and he's your
one real blue chip, impact offensive player, don't you want
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to add another impact blue chip offensive player at running back.
That's going to help the Brock Barers, it's gonna help
Geno Smith, it's going to help the higher offensive operation.
This guy can catch the ball, he can block, he
can run it. He's fantastic. So if I'm the Raiders,
that's who I'm looking at at at pick number six. Now,
maybe you could, maybe you could come up with a
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scenario where they trade down a few spots and it
makes it more viable to adopt a running back at
number ten or eleven or nine and get something for
your for your trouble to move down. But if I'm
the Raiders, I'm seriously looking at asking Jenky. I think
he's got superpowers and the ability to really lift your
offense and lift the entire offensive operation. You're passing game
and your run game.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
All right, Vinny, So you mentioned it looks like cam
Ward's going to go number one. You think he's a
shoeing for the Titans. But what about Abdul Carter? What
about Travis Hunter?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah? I think I think it feels like the Cleveland
Browns are on Travis Hunter, and the question there is
going to be do they make him a cornerback or
do they make him a wide receiver. You can make
a case for him playing wide receiver on that team.
That's that's very interesting for him because number one, I
don't see that he's going to be able to do both.
It's just too hard and too taxing to play both
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positions at this level. So he's probably gonna have to
pick one or the other and maybe do some situational
spot play, whether it's cornerback or wide receiver. But it'll
be interesting to see what teams view him as the
best fit for them at what position. So the Cleveland Browns,
whereas the Giants might need him as a cornerback, the
Browns might need him as a wide receiver, so it'll
be interesting to check that. So I think he goes
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he goes there at number two, and I really feel
like Abdul Carter and the Giants are a perfect fit.
And now both teams, the Browns and the Giants will
have to figure out quarterback at either another point in
the draft or maybe punt on quarterback this year and
relook at the position next year. But you know, especially
with Sadr Sanders, they're they're to me, they're taking a
little bit of a risk, But I do think that
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that's kind of how it's going to play out.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, what about the Rams betting? What about the Rams?
What are they looking to do?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Keep an eye on the Jalen milro is coming in
for a visit with the Rams, and people that I
talk to indicate that Sean mcgay is really high on
Jalen Milroe. And I don't know about you, Rodney, but
when I do look at this quarterback class, and I
know there's some flaws with Jalen Milroe, but I've seen
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enough good of him, especially his not last season, but
the season before he played really well with Nick Saban.
There was a coaching chains, there was some guys that
left the you know, left the scene and replaced with
other players. So I don't know how much to make
of the fallback that he had last year and how
much to put it on the fact that he was
learning an entirely new system. There were new teammates and
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all that. Don't want to make excuses, but I do
look at the tape in twenty twenty three and I
liked what I saw, and I feel like of all
the quarterbacks in this draft, he has the highest ceiling.
And what better place to go than the Rams who
could afford to put developmental time into him. That've got
Matthew Stafford for a couple more years, and maybe when
Matthew Stafford is ready to leave, Jalen Milroe is ready
to step in. So I would keep an eye on that, Betty.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A final question for you, So it's been reported that
NFL revenue is just killing it and teams are going
to receive a four hundred and sixteen million dollar distribution
from the shared TV sponsorship and licensing revenue. That's an
awful lot of money to make, so after all expenses
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are paid. I mean, what do you think these clubs make.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
If you're not making money in the NFL, you probably
have to go back to finance class or something like that.
But yeah, it's it's it's a money maker. It blows
everything away. And you know, there's some markets that are
doing better than others. Obviously here with the Raiders, I mean,
they're just they're just rolling around in money right now.
So I don't you will never know. We'll probably never
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know exactly how much money teams make, but they're not
losing any money. And everything that that that you do make,
you have the ability to put back into your team
one way or another. But there's a reason, there's a
reason why people are buying into the NFL, guys like
Tom Brady and you know the three different you know,
minority owners that they have that invested you know, five percent,
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ten percent into the Raiders because they're making money for
their for their investment, and we'll make a lot more
money over the over the course of time because it's
a no fail money making machine. It doesn't shock me
that that they're cutting more checks for everybody. It's an
incredible look at the commission you've made sixty three million
dollars last year. Sixty three million dollars last year. What's
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that all come from the revenue that he helps create for
the NFL. So it's it's an incredible amount of money,
and uh, it's just getting more and more every year.
That's why the salary cap continues to go up every
single year.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, right, well, any thank you, thank you for coming on,
and have a terrific weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, you guys too, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
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but we have a holdout to report.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's Friday. We don't care. Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,
come on, talk tall Fred.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Some years ago we made the comment about college sports.
Stop calling these people student athletes. Stop stop they're athlete students.
Don't confuse the two. When the NCAA comes out and
talks about student athletes, I want a wretch. I just
I cannot believe how incredibly disingenuous. That is, they are
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athletes and students. Not at the Division three level, probably
not at the Division two level, and certainly not if
you're a walk on at a D one program, you're
paying for the right to go to school. You are
a student athlete. But in Division one college athletics, in
major programs, these kids are athletes first and student second.
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When Rodney went to USC, he wanted to be part
of the Cardinal and Gold. He was there, that was
his school. I don't know if back then, if you
could have transferred every year to make more money somewhere else,
if you would have done it because you got paid,
because you got paid pretty well at USC. Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
What are we saying? Did I use my outside voice? Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, anyway, well well whatever that was then, this is now.
The point is this kids today, and if you are
a major college athlete, don't care where they go to school.
I'm being dead series. Sure, if there's a choice or two,
they'll make it. But this is no different than professional
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free agency. Who's paying me the most? And by the way,
after this year, I may go somewhere else, Well they'll
pay me more. So what you have to do is
keep in mind, I'm available to the highest bidder. I'm
a mercenary. I will go where the money is great,
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and that doesn't mean my whole life. I wanted to
go to Arizona State, and that's where I'm going to stay.
You could be out of there in fifteen seconds and
not even look back. And that's why it's even more
comical where you have these kids. Well, you know, listen,
it's going to be tough because we've got finals and
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we have playoffs or a tournament, finals for what These
guys will be gone in ten minutes if they get
the chance. Why not just call it what it is?
So let's start with that. Why not just call it
what it is? Collegiate sports is now a business. It's
been a business for the academic institutions and now it's
a business for the players.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
But then, il so it's the minor leagues. It's the
minor leagues. It's minor leagues.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, it's triple A version of A. Yes, okay, it's
triple A.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Nico ima I aliva, fred I'll help you out.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know I.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Had it, but then you confused me.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Of course, of course you did I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Gonna call him.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So he's missing practices at Tennessee. He plays at Tennessee
and he's missing quarterback. He's their quarterback. He's missing practices. Uh,
third year quarterback. But he's not practicing because right now
he is trying to negotiate a new nil deal. He
is in the midst of negotiations to make more money
(17:51):
before he goes to practice. That guy's a student athlete
like I am. He's not gonna go to practice unless
he gets paid. That's the bottom line, unless he gets
a new deal.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Is he going to class?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't think he's doing anything. If I was him,
I wouldn't do a damn thing. I go home, go wherever.
Why is he going to class?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What are they gonna do? Suspend him? Oh you didn't
go to class. Now we just paid your five million
dollars a year, but you didn't go to math, so
you're out. Oh sure he is.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Did you miss philosophy period three? Oh you're that's it work.
You're gonna such a place Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like, is there such a thing as academically ineligible anymore?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
How could there be? There can't be, right, Okay, Rodney,
here's the deal. I've just paid you two and a
half million dollars a year, yeah, to go to the
USC and play quarterback. I'm paying you. Here's your money. Yeah,
and you've decided that you absolutely hate by biology. Yes,
(19:01):
not only do you hate it, you know nothing about it.
You have no desire to learn anything, and believe in
no way, shape or form will it be beneficial for
your life.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But you had to enroll because you had to enroll
in something.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, you had to take a science, right.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So they put you in biology.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Biology is nine am, three days a week, two.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Days a week, Monday through Friday, or Monday Wednesday Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, three days a week, nine am.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
You know something, Rodney, you don't want to go. As
a matter of fact, I don't do things on Monday
Monday morning, are you kidding me? Yeah, Friday before the game,
Friday day before the game. Come on, So you're not
gonna go now. By not going, of course, not only
are you missing class, you have no idea what's going
(19:54):
on in the class. Therefore you can't really do anything
in the class. But somebody says occasionally you got to
do something, So you show up on a Wednesday, you've
read nothing, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They hand out some sort of test or quiz and
they tell everybody to take it. You know as much
about biology as you know about moon science, but you
take the test because you're sitting there and you're Rodney.
Of course, when it comes back, it's great. On the curve.
(20:32):
It says you need remedial courses. You don't know anything
about biology.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes's remedial, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So now the professor comes in and the professor says, Rodney,
you're failing this class. I mean, this is awful. I've
looked at your attendance and you've showed up twice. You've
only turned in one piece of work, and it basically
said you know biology to third grade level. You know
nothing about biology. So I'm gonna have to report this.
(21:07):
And who are you gonna report it to? Who are
you gonna tell Rodney makes two and a half million
dollars a year to play football on saturdays. Sorry, chief,
I don't know anything about biology. What are you gonna
do to me? What are you gonna do? I make
two and a half million dollars playing football on saturdays.
I don't know anything about biology.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
On way, and and by the way, because we're ranked
number four in the country, we play on TV every week.
And by that, I am making this school seven million
dollars every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And on top of it, because we're ranked fourth in
the country, I get a fifty thousand dollars game bonus.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yes in my nil yes, and them is full and
stadium is full.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Right because we are ranked four within the country. Who
are you gonna tell? Who's gonna stop me from playing?
Who's gonna say? Well, Rodney doesn't know biology, he can't play,
matter of the way. Yeah, Rodney doesn't know math either.
He doesn't go to that either. Rodney doesn't care. He
doesn't go to math class. He doesn't know math, he
(22:20):
doesn't no biology. Who's gonna you know what? Rodney doesn't
go to his English class?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You know why?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
He doesn't care? What are you gonna do to me?
He prefers Spanish, right, And you put me in this
and I'm just not gonna do it. And by the way,
if you put me in Spanish, I wouldn't do that either.
But the point is, but the point is, what are
you gonna do English? Why do I need to take
English class? Yes, yes, I had that very argument when
I was in junior college and did not go well
(22:48):
at the end where I called the teacher an old hand.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Oh that sounds like something in a sixth grader would say,
I speak English? What I didn't take English for?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I tried that. By the way, I did something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I bet you did. Fred. It sounds like very believable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
By the way, Fred, what is moon science exactly? I
don't know. I just made it up. How do I
know that? Did you mean astronomy? No, it's moon science.
It's a certain course. It's a special course.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's the remediate course.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Amy, by the way, says you did ask.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I didn't look up.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
The last Division one college football player to be declared
academically ineligible. Yeah, a receiver at Purdue in twenty twenty two. Wow,
three years ago was the last time a D one
player was declared academically ineligible.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And he probably wasn't getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
No, right, if somebody is getting paid, Oh, that's it.
I gotta be honest, man, you've missed too many study halls.
We're gonna have to do something to you. What are
you gonna do to me?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You got to stop me. What what's the penalty here?
Let me tell you what the penalty is. If you
say another word to me, I'll get you fired. How
do you like that? I make two and a half
million dollars? What do you make? Professor?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's just wrong. So instead of calling these kids student
athletes at the Division one level, let's just do what
it is. It's a professional league. People get paid. Sure,
you hope they pick something up along the way academically,
that would be nice. If not, why are we doing this?
(24:28):
I love in March madness and even during NCAA football games,
you know, you get the commercial, the branding spot from
Purdue or the branding spot from the University of Kentucky
or the NC DOUBLEA, and it shows, you know, kids
in class looking through a telescope and then they're walking
in a forest looking at the trees and somebody's building
(24:51):
a robot and they say the NC DOUBLEA student athletes.
I assure you the kids that are Division one athletes
right now are not building a robot. Probably not. They're
just showing up and playing because they get paid. So
let's stop. Starting quarterback at Tennessee is holding out. He
(25:12):
didn't try it. He's holding out. I'll just say, or
do you pay me what I want? And I guess
if you don't pay me, somebody else will balls in
your court. Is this a kid that wants to graduate
from Tennessee and be a volunteer, Well, he's waiting to
get paid. He's not volunteering for anything. This guy wants
money and he should have it. That's the way the
(25:32):
system works.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
At the Division three level, that's different. There are no
well there are nil, but no scholarships. You pay to
go to a Division three school, you're a student athlete.
If you don't go to class at a Division three school,
you don't play. That's the way it works. Division two, man,
the rules are a little a little iffy there, Yeah,
(25:56):
a little blurred a little bit. Yeah, in Division two
you can get a scholarship and you can get an IL.
But Division one, come on, enough with the student athlete stuff.
And and they just should rebrand it and call these
guys what they are. They're pros. They are pros.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They are they are the again, they're the they're the
NFL minor league.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know, some will make it, some won't. Some, you know,
keep going and it'll be their sixth year in college
and you know, make another five million.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Dollars because they decide to stay and not go into
the draft, because they'll make more in college and they'll
make being a free agent in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I mean we see that all the time too.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
The guys are okay, Okay, I spent two years here
getting you to the playoffs, but now I'm gonna transfer
to Oregon because they're gonna pay me more.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh but we were gearing.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Up for this this title run. Oh yeah, but yeah,
but Oregon's gonna pay me more. I'm gonna go there
and play my last year, or Miami's gonna play pay
me more. So I'm gonna go there instead of stay
at Georgia because they gotta pay me more.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right, it's not I gotta be a bulldog for life. No,
I want money. Same in college basketball. Mccronod will tell
you what are you doing. Well, I'm just trying to
put the money together to start making offers. Start making offers.
You're not recruiting anybody, You're you're offering them money. How
much you got, Okay, I figured it out. I give
you this, I give you that is that enough. Yeah, okay,
(27:31):
come on, they're like signing guys the old signing day
and everybody gets really excited. And this is where I'm
committing to. On signing day, you sign a check. That's
how it works now, So stop calling him student athlete. Basketball,
college baseball, at the entire D one level, any program
that can generate revenue. You don't think some of the
(27:54):
girls at us are gonna get paid in the basketball program.
You don't think some of the women at you you're
all going to get paid in a basketball program. You
don't think somebody will pay the really good ones.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And women women they can't. They can't leave early. Now,
like the men can go one and done, women can't
can't go Why is that? Why is women can't go
one and done?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They should? They should be able to men do.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
They can't. The men do.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
The women can't, right, because that's a w n b A.
They should figure out a way to do it. Sure,
why not? Because that's what it is. Call it what
it is. Stop squirting the issue. Call it what it is.
These guys are athletes. They get paid, and the majority
of them at that level truly could care less where
(28:43):
they go to school. They want to go to a
nice place, the place that gives them the best chance
to make money.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
No more of this loyalty.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I grew up a Bruin or I grew up a Trojan,
and I want to play there and I can't wait
to get there. No, if it doesn't work out, you're
going someone else. If somebody paid you more. You know,
like if you're at sc or Ucla and across town
they say, hey, we like your game, We're gonna pay you.
We'll pay you X. You're going across town. You're You're
(29:13):
not staying there. It's just the way it is now.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, who's a bigger surprise in baseball so far this year?
The San Francisco Giants or the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Let's talk about that. Come on, let's go Rodney Pete
fred Rogan on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
We don't care Friday, Let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We don't care. Say what though Angel fans have a
little reason to smile, they care a bit. Look at
these Angels. They're off to an eight and four start.
I mean, San Francisco Giants are nine and four, Angels
are eight and four. Dodgers or ten and four So
you think the Angels they are coming out of the
blocks fast. Yeah, team maybe coming together. What do you think, Rodney,
(30:02):
is this start of something big?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
No offense?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Kevin, You know, I kind of feel the way about
the Angels the way you feel about the Giants' fread.
They come out of the gate fast. But it ain't
gonna last. Ain't gonna last because it just it's the Angels.
It's the Angels, you know. And and and I'm not
(30:29):
saying that because I'm hoping that. I just the track
record says so. And I'm ashamed to say, or not shame,
but I'm just sad to say that it's gonna be
a disappointment again for Angel fans. I mean we're only
what eleven game, twelve games into the season, but the
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Angels went they nine to four, eight and four am
twelve games into the season. So you know, it's a
good start. It's exciting start, but you gotta believe it's
not gonna last. Yeah, We'll look at it like this.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Anything is better than what it was, Anything is better
than what has happened, and at least gets the reason
for people to smile and have some hope. Now, I
don't want to dash their hopes because that's not nice.
But you know, the Rangers are nine and four, the
Angels are eight and four. You've got Houston and Seattle.
I'm just glad. Okay, you know what the best news
(31:33):
about this is? Seriously, what day does this April eleventh? Yes,
the best news is that on April eleventh, the Angels
have not been mathematically eliminated yet.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh good news.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
That means art they can keep charging full price.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh well, you know he wants to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know he will. Matter of fact, we're right right
behind the first place team. We're gonna double prices. You're
seeing something you haven't seen in a while here.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, the Angels stay there, much like the the Atlanta Braves,
who are in last place in the NL East right now,
like they're gonna stay there. Anybody believed the Lanta Brave
is gonna be in last place and it's all said
and done in the NL East, No, No Philly's made,
No Philly's mets, and and the Brave is gonna be
(32:26):
in a dog fight throughout the whole season. But to
suggests that Miami Marlin is gonna finish ahead of the
Braves or the Washington Nationals.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, they beat the Dodgers in the.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Series, are gonna finish ahead of the Brave No, so yeah,
it's great while it's going right now, Like you mentioned,
they can charge full price right now down at Anaheut, It's.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
All good, Kevin. You would adhered to my theory. You
would have here to my theory. When a team is
mathematically eliminated, tickets are reduced to have price. I mean,
given what you flip through.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, I look, I don't think it will ever happen,
and on to some level it does make sense, But
I just don't think it's practical enough that it's even
really worth discussing in front of the honestly.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Okay, on that flip side, do you do you if
they have clinched a playoff berth, do you get to
raise the prices.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
That's an interesting dynamic too, because it also depends if
you clinch a playoff birth and say you're running away
with your division and now you're playing what amounts to
a meaningless series against a couple of teams at the
back end of the year, and some of your best
players aren't even playing because they're resting for the postseason. Yeah,
that's a hard sell to say, like, well, I gotta pay,
you know, double the price to see a bunch of
guys who are not even playing tonight, versus if the
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team is really really bad and they're calling up a
bunch of young guys and just trying to see what
happens for the future, and you know for a fact,
like what am I watching here? I think it's more
easier to sell that than it is to say, double
the prices for a team that's actually played well.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, but if I'm yeah, Fred, Fred believed that. Fred
believe that.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
But I just don't think that you can do that
one way and not do it the other way. Like
if you're gonna if you're gonna reduce the prices when
you're you know, when you're you're mathematically out and and
and and do that, you can't if you're mathematically in,
you gotta you gotta be able to raise the prices.
(34:22):
So it's gotta go, it's gotta it's gotta cut both ways.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah, I think it will be a nice gesture, Rodney.
I don't think it should be some sort of league
mandated thing or something like that. No, but I think
it'd be the sixers did this in their process years.
It's like, you know what, we have a certain level
of our seats. I don't know what it was, eight
thousand seats we give away to charities. We give away
to the y MCA, the Boys and Girls Club and
let them come in and have a night because we
know that we could sell these seats if we wanted to,
(34:46):
but quite honestly, people might not even buy them. So
get them in the door. Maybe they'll buy some concessions
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, that's hard coming anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, so that's a this is our way of paying
it forward to you. We'll allow you to bring some
kids in and have some fun. But I think it's
gonna be a company on the teams to volunteer to
do it. I don't think the league will ever mandate
that a team would do something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Absolutely, whether Dodgers play, they don't have to cut ticket
prices at all. David Vassay will join us next from
the stadium as the home stand begins.
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