April 25, 2025 • 48 mins
The Clippers steamrolled the Nuggets in Denver to take a 2-1 series lead. The Lakers and Kings play Game 3's tonight while the Dodgers host Paul Skenes and the Pirates. Vinny Bonsignore hops on to recap round 1 of the NFL Draft. The Angels are playing their get-away games at the latest possible time this season in order to maximize gate revenue.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ah, there we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy LA Sports Big three hour show today, The
Friday Show where anything goes, anything goes Rodney anybody. So
here's the deal. As you are listening, if you are
inclined to call the show and comment on something, please
feel free to do so. But it is Friday. We
normally don't care. So if you call because we don't
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care on Friday, and if Kevin does pick up the phone,
he may or may not because it's Friday. And then
if you can convince him that you have something impactful
to say, then he will determine if he cares. If
he cares, then we could care. If he cares, we
may not care because it's the Friday Show, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, that's a lot of information. Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know my wife knows all the time. You know,
my wife says too many words, too many words.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, sometimes he's right, my goodness, Uh yeah, I know.
We don't care. For sure, we don't care. Put that
all on Kevin. Kevin is going to screen it and
tell you if if you matter or not.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, now it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Makes that determination, then welcome to the show. Okay, A
lot to get to let's get started with this. How
about those Clippers last night?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Ooh we how.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
About them putting it on Denver. See, we knew going
into the series the Clippers were the better team. Now,
that first game they turned the ball over twenty times
and you're not going to win that way. And they
went into overtime and turned it over four times in overtime.
But last night was an entirely different story. Rodney, I
don't know what would have to happen for the Clippers
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not to win that series. I think they are completely better.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I do too, and I just think that I
think Denver is in disarray as well. I think they're
all screwed up mentally. You know, the whole situation, firing
the coach and the GM that just had no recipe
for a good, happy ending at the end of the season.
Pardon my use of words, but yeah, I had no
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they had no chance when that happened, and just you
could tell it to fractured locker room. Then he got
shot to the joker yelling at his teammates. When have
you ever seen that from the Joker? I mean he's
you know, he's more reserved. Guy doesn't really say a
whole lot, and it's just you know, and if he does,
you never really see him getting all over his guys
or getting in people's face, especially off the court. But
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he's on the bench doing that. And then after the
game he could tell he was completely frustrated in the
way they played. It's not gonna end well for the Nuggets.
But yeah, and you're right, and the Clippers are playing
well at the right time, you know. Norman Powell, uh,
you know, we always talked about, you know, Kawhi is,
he's health, He's gonna do his thing. James Harden seems
like he's come to play. But where's that third guy,
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that fourth guy. It's got to be someone like a
Norman Powell or Zobots has got to come through other
than you know, James Harden and Kawhi and those guys
have been coming through and normal Powell did last night
not only offensively, but offensively as well. So the Clippers
are rolling first playoff game and into it, Fred Rocking,
I'll tell you Norman Powell, as you would say, Rodney,
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he's a bad man.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Norman Powell. Will not will do not step to Norman Powell. Now,
I'm not saying he's going to light it up every night.
But even if he's not lighting it up, you do
not want to step to that man.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
No, you're just looking at him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's like, oh God, if you look at him the
wrong way, it looks like he's going to tear your
head off. And maybe that's just the way he looks.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know. Bad idea.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Jamal Murray trying to lift him up there in Game
two and it just got him, got him going a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, he's kind of he's kind of a still water,
but still waters run deep.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So a very good outing by the Clippers last night,
led by as many as thirty one, And that's about
all you need to hear. If you're beating the team
thirty one in the playoffs, it's kind of like okasee
in Memphis. If you're beaten teams by or you're ahead
by that many points in the playoffs, you know the
other team has got real problems. Either your far superior
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or the other team is really struggling. So I don't
see how Denver comes back. The Clippers we said would
win the series, and now it looks like they are
going to win the series tonight. You have three options
you get to pick. You have Lakers in Minnesota you
can pick that. Kings and Edmonton you can pick that.
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Dodgers and Pirates you can pick that. So let's set
the scene first.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Kings.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Kings fans, remember yesterday we talked about Skinner, the goalie,
Stewart's inner and the crowd screaming skin, which is my
favorite thing, and they let him have it the whole night.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes they did, Yes, they did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And after the Kings scored their fifth goal, and I said,
I saw it on the TV broadcast, asked, after they
scored their fifth goal, you could see, just for a
fraction of a moment that Stuart Skinner was defeated. He
was defeated. You could see it was his body language.
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He was defeated. He's not playing tonight. They're starting the
backup goalie because he's not starting tonight. I knew it
when I saw that, and I told you, I said, God,
he looks defeated and he's their starting goalie. And now
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in the playoffs they're starting their backup goalie. What does
that tell you about how they feel, how concerned they
are that they're not even going to start the starter.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, it's like in the movie Miracle or the nineteen
nineteen eighty Olympics where the Russians the best in the
world and they had the best goalie in the world
and they pulled them in the third period.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Fred, they pulled them. He just pulled the.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Third the best goalie in the world, these young college kids,
but they made them.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But think about it, though, Fred, the.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Kings have been scoring at will right, no disrespect to Skinner,
but they've been scoring on him at will. I mean
they they even in the first game, they go four
to zero out of the gate before anybody even blinked.
And yes, Edmonton made a run and came back, but
it was like ho hum, okay you came back. Now
we're going to score another goal. Oh oh, you tied
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it up again. Okay, let's just go win it. And
they did it. And so you know, it's like you
had three games, right, well two games. You had two
games and you gave up Do you get up twelve
twelve goals in two games? He gave up eleven eleven games.
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But so you know you got to make a change.
You're going back home. Oh down, oh two? You know
you got to make some sort of change because that
ain't working.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Connor McDavid said it best before the series started. We've
been waiting for this moment all season. We've been waiting this.
This is the moment we have been waiting for since
the beginning of the season. Well, meet your moment. Enjoy
your moment, Connor, because your moment has come.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Hey, do you think they come out overly aggressive and
be the cheap shot artist that they are?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like you've said they are, that the Oilers come out and.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They really I mean they already are known as being
you know, dirty players, as you say they do. They
come out and be even more aggressive and really borderline
on that cheap shot dirty play.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
One, not even a question not be ready, no doubt.
In my mind, penalty box is full. Now what we'll
see tonight is how the officials call the game. With
the game being played in Edmonton. Yeah, the thing is
as dirty as they are. I'm not so sure the
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officials can turn the other cheek. You know, if it's
borderline in your home, you probably get the call, right,
you probably get that call.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
If it's close.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Maybe it was, Yeah, there was that questionable whether it
was high sticking. I forget who it was on, but
it was on the follow through right and it wasn't Yeah,
so they didn't call it and Edmonton and then the
Kings end up scoring a goal right at that point,
and Edmonton the players and coaches were you know, going
crazy about it, but they didn't call it because they
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really they reviewed, didn't looked at it, but that call
and Edmonton may have gone against the Kings, right. And
the other thing the Kings have to watch for tonight
being up to all in the series, and of course
Edmonton being the world's darlings with the great Connor McDavid.
So what the Kings have to watch for tonight is
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I assure you the officials will not turn the other
way if the Kings do something. Now, if it's close tonight,
if it could be a penalty, if it's not a penalty,
the Kings will be penalized.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
They better be ready for that too, because that's the thing.
It can get in your head. It's like, oh, man,
you've been calling it. In the King's mind, everything's been
good because you won, and you look up and go, yeah,
they're calling a good game, the refs. But if you're Edmonton,
you're like they're kind of screwing us a little bit.
You're feeling like, we gotta beat not only the Kings,
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but we got to beat the refs too, and now
they're coming home. And what you can't do if you're
the Kings, if there's a call it go doesn't go
your way, or there's a couple of them that don't
go your way, you can't let that get into your head.
Then you start thinking more about the refs than what
you got to do on the ice, and that's just
go beat Edmonton, because now you're distracted, and you don't
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want to get distracted. And that's the thing that can
happen when you go on the road and you think
you're you know you're going to get homeward anyway. Then
you start believing that inside and you stop playing. And
the Kings can't afford to do that. But I think
Freddie is going to be I don't think this is
uh basically game three. Game three is either going to
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be a close win by the Kings or the Kings
get blown.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Out one or the other.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I could see that. I could see it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The thing that you don't want to do because of
the way the game is going to be called and
what you just said could be the result of this
because of the way the game is going to be called.
The Kings cannot They need to be aggressive, but not
take penalties because if they start taking penalties. Connor McDavid
now is on the ice with the man advantage every time. Yeah,
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and he can, he can ring them up quick. So
you've got to really watch that tonight. Don't take unnecessary
penalties because you're gonna get penalties either way. Don't take
the unnecessary ones. Don't put yoursel you're right, because it's
easy to do that. Easy to do that, you know,
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especially on the road, and then you get you know,
get again, it gets into your head.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're like, no.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So we have King's Edmonton or Lakers Timberwolves. Okay, so
now that series is tied at one, Lakers go into Minnesota.
The Lakers impose their will. The other night at the
Crypt imposed their will. I think delivered a powerful message. Sure,
you came out in Game one, you punched us right
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in the mouth, all right, So maybe we didn't have
our hands up to defend ourselves, which is on us
because we know we should defend ourselves either way. Now
we're going to show you what it's about. And what
it was about was a terrific defensive performance, Austin Reeves,
Lebron and Luca doing what they needed to do. And
now the Lakers and Timberwolves are tied at a game
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a piece, but they go back to Minnesota. Rodney, I
would say to you, as you said about this Kings game,
this is critical game three for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh yeah, oh this is this is huge. This is huge.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
First of all, you gotta you gotta be ready to
withstand the storm at the start of the game from
the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
They got to come out on fire. The crowd's going
to be into it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Alex Rodriguez is gonna be down there, cheered, leading and
doing his best mL CAR imitation.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you just gotta you gotta be ready for that.
And if you can take that punch early, you'll be okay.
But you don't want to play ketch up the whole game,
you know, And the Lakers tend to do that from
time to time, get behind and then try to play ketchup,
and that's exhausting.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But I agree with you. I think this is a huge,
huge game, more so for the Lakers to win than
it is for the Timberwolves to win. Tomber was a plan.
You know, they're like, nobody expects us to win anyway,
so you know, we don't win this one, We'll win
the next one tied up and anything can happen going forward.
For the Lakers, they go down two games to one
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with another one in Minnesota, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Then it then it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Then it starts to creep in because all the noise
from outside is like, you know, Lakers won and done,
Lakers are gonna get bounce in the first round. All
the luca hype that the do is off the lily
or you know whatever they say it is, the honeymoon
period is over and bye bye Lakers. All those things
will come up and all the talking heads will act
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like they had a crystal ball and they knew this
was going to happen. So they gotta they gotta come
out and be ready to play, more so than they've
been ready to play in any of these these first
two games.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Now, I think the Lakers tonight, and that's a great point.
Minnesota will come out very strong. You have to expect that.
And the NBA is a game of runs. One team
goes on the run, the other one comes back is
just who has the run at the end to win it.
But I think tonight, if Minnesota comes out that way
and they start on a little bit of a run,
Lakers have to withstand that. You have to hang in
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and then what they have to do is go on
their own run and not let them back in the game.
When the Lakers get control, and there will be a
point where it'll be close, you know, one team will
take control. When the Lakers take control, they've got to
hold control. Yeah, they have to impose their will again, much.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like they did in Game two.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right, they they got ahead, they were up big, and
then Minnesota started a little run, but then the Lakers
shut that down immediately and went on their run. So
every time the Timberwoods cut it to single digits, the
Lakers went right back on their own run. They not
so fast. We're not gonna let you back into this game.
And they have to do the same thing to your point.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Next up, we have the Dodgers and the Pirates at
Yammoto against Paul Schemes. Now that'll be fun to watch, uh.
And for the Dodgers, it's probably worst case scenario. They've
been struggling hitting, and now they're gonna see the guy
who you know, for the next ten years will always
be in the sy young running. He's that good. Yeah ya,
Momoto has been terrific this year. So there you have
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three games Lakers, Wolves, Kings, Edmonton, Dodgers, Pirates. Yeah, rank
in the order in which you believe the team has
the best chance to win. So who has the better
chance to win tonight Lakers against Minnesota, Kings against Edmonton,
Dodgers against Pirates.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh yeah, oh tonight. Oh you know, I was gonna say,
didn't throw the Clippers in there, but then I play
tonight Akers, Timberwolves, King versus Edmonton, and Dodgers versus Pittsburgh.
I will say Dodgers versus Pittsburgh. Even those schemes is
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going for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has no offense. They can't score.
They're not gonna score. I mean, they got some young talent,
but they're not gonna score on Yamamoto. And you know,
if the Dodgers gonna have good at bath again, scheme
get him up out of there, or even score one
run against them, then then they got to They got
a good chance. But I think Dodgers coming home after
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that devastating two game road trip in Chicago. They'll be
ready to play. Yamamoto will hold them down, and again
Pittsburgh can't score. So I'm going Dodgers in this one. Fred,
what about you?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I would say of the three, I like, I like
the King's chances the best. I'm always gonna go with
the Kings. I think they'll go up there tonight and
I think they'll deliver a very solid message. And I
believe that that will be the final nail in the
coffin for the Oilers, because if they're down three, oh,
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they're not coming back to win. I think the Kings win.
I think all three win. I do think all three
win tonight. But I would say number one on my lists,
the Kings will beat Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, wow, down oh to Edmonton and that that environment,
huh m hm. You give the Kings the best chance? Kay, Okay,
I'm doing it. I don't care, I'm doing it, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Which environment do you think is going to be more
wild and crazy? Edmonton? Edmonton or Minnesota? Edmonton? Yeah? Hockey Edmonton?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, Okay, even though it's the Lakers coming to town,
to Minnesota, it's it's still gonna be Edmonton versus the Kings.
I mean, it doesn't matter what sport. Everybody hates LA.
There'll be a beat LA chant in the stands in Edmonton,
I'm sure. But they'll be crazier than that because it's hockey. Yeah,
they'll be beat l A and Edmonton. They'll be beat
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LA in Minnesota and here at Dodger Stadium will say
who are the pirates? Who are those guys? Which why
I give the Dodgers the Edges, the team I believe
is gonna win, not one of.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The NFL drafters in the books. Where's the door Sanders?
What happened boy going in? And why to talk about
him coming out? Nothing? Vettie Bonce and your joins us next.
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, it is a Friday. We
absolutely do not care. That's what we do on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We throw it all out into the wind and see
see what happens, See what happens. And there was a
lot of wind going on last night in Green Bay,
but a crazy, crazy crowd. And let's bring on our
expert our man, Vittie Bonce and your Vinny.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
How are you brother?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm doing I'm doing great. And I think that there's
there's thirty two teams fan bases out there that do
care today. Uh, dis respect you, We don't care Friday.
But man, there's some happy fan bases, including here in
Las Vegas with Ashton jen d and across the board.
It was a great night last night. And uh, there's
some really good football players left on the board, Rodney,
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and I expect some fan bases are gonna be pretty
happy at the conclusion of tonight as well.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, all right, Benny, So let's let's start with the
big news and the elephant in the room at Shador
Sanders does not get picked in the first round. You know,
a lot of speculation with him on you know, on
leading up to the draft. I mean it was it
went from the season over, you know, him, him and
cam Ward being you know, could go one, two or
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or or Shador. They could interchange and Shador could be
the number one pick. And it turns out cam Ward
was the consensus with by everybody's everybody's charting from what
we're hearing now that you know, it wasn't even close.
It was cam Ward and then everybody else. But with Shador,
what what what do you think Vinnie, Why do you
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think the narrative went so crazy and Haywire the last
couple of weeks leading up to this, to the point
where people just like, well, he's mediocre and he'd be
the seventh player picked if he was in last year's draft,
or he's this and that. Do you think all of
the the conversation that he and Dion had before the draft,
or where he may or may not play, or what
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he wants to do that played a big role in
to him not getting to chosen right now.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There's a lot to that to that question, but I
think ultimately, run me and you know, you know this
as well as as well as anyone a couple of things.
Number one, you know, in the first round, teams look
for dynamic traits, you know, the canon arm, the ability
to run, something that separates yourself, you know, kind of
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from the pack and all along. You know, and people
that I talked to about Sanders, you know, this is guy.
This guy is fantastic from the shoulders up. He's as
accurate as any quarterback. He you know, he he could anticipate,
he can throw, you know, his receivers open, he has
touch and all of those things. He just lacks great size,
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great athletic ability, and a great arm. And for those reasons,
I think teams were like, look, good quarterback, probably has
the potential to be a really good quarterback in the NFL,
but in the first round, we want to see something
dynamic about you, and there just wasn't that. I disagree.
I think he's gonna be a really good quarterback. Throw
out all the all the all the things I just
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talked about. It's really about getting the job done, and
he's always gotten the job done. And in fact, he
went to two programs that you know, we're sort of
dying on the vine and breathing life into them as
their quarterback and turn two programs around. I think he's
gonna be worthy of a of an NFL team and
will eventually turn into a really good quarterback. But I
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think this is the case where projectibles and athletic ability
and and elite traits kind of came into play. And
I think there'll be some team are going to regret.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That Oliver hyped going in Vinnie. Could that simply be
the case, In other words, if he hadn't received the
hype and the noise surrounding him, maybe then it wouldn't
be a surprise he didn't go in the first round,
and let's say he goes in the second and turns
out to be a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Do you think this is just a function of the
hype A little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Of that, because inside buildings, that's and I think that's
the key to the whole thing. Inside NFL buildings, I
don't know that he was ever really looked at as
a first round talent. And and and Rodnie you know
this as well. Not every quarterback that's drafted in the
first round has a first round grade. It's just that
deposition is so important that teams reach, you know, for
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first in the first round, even on quarterbacks that they
don't necessarily have a first round talent. And but usually,
you know, as is the case, quarterbacks will have something
that you look at and project, wow, this is special,
that arm is special, that running ability is special. He
just lacked that. But your point, Fred, I do think
like the hype from fans and on television, you know,
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you're like, oh, this is a flam dunk first rounder,
but when you talk to people in the NFL that
wasn't always the case, and now it's it'll be especially
to see exactly where he ultimately does land. And I
think one thing that really hurt him in the whole
scheme of things, you know, was the Raiders trading for
Gino Smith. I think if the Raiders still had a
quarterback need at number six, or didn't have the caliber
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of quarterback in Gino Smith that they do have, I
think they would have been more pressed to add a
starting quarterback. And I know that there's a lot of
connections to Shoudar Sanders, and I know there's a lot
of you know, adjuration for him inside the Raiders building,
which is now I think a lot of eyes go
on to that thirty seventh fit for the Raiders. Is
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that where they pull the trigger on him and let
him develop behind Geo Smith? Or are they still have
kind of Marbo win now mode, especially with as deep
a draftedness is it's a really good players that can
help them right now they turned in that direction a
quarterback at that point.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, and what out you know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The other team obviously is the Browns, who everybody thought
was going to get Travis Hunter but traded that away.
But they've got I believe what the thirty second pick
and or or the first pick today, and then they've
got like the fourth pick today, So I think, yeah,
thirty six or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Thirty two and thirty Yeah, thirty two and thirty five,
thirty two and thirty six byke.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, And if on the Browns, would I take him?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But but I've heard from people in the NFL that
they don't they don't see it going in that direction.
And you know, I've even been told keeping an eye
on Tyler Shuck, the Louisville quarterback, right, you know, in
that in one of those positions for for the Browns.
And you know, you gotta sometimes go back and look
back at history. Tyler Shuck was a pretty highly regarded
quarterback coming out of high school. He signed with Oregon.
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He ended up going to Texas A and M, but
injury sort of derailed him, and you know, he kind
of fell off the map, you know, in terms of
the national perspective. But this was always a really good quarterback.
And if you go back in time, he was he
was probably a highly higher rated quarterback coming out of
high school that Shador was. That's neither here nor there.
But it's not like he came out of nowhere. This
isn't bad. That was a very highly recruited quarterback who's
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just now been able to be healthy for a few
years and showing what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Fuck to trade, Travis Hunter. Were you surprised by that?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Not from the Jacksonville Jaguars perspective? You know, James Gladstone,
who learned at the at the hip of less Seed
all those years with the Rams. People that I talked
to in the NFL, felt like he was going to
try to make a bold statement. He was going to
bring some of that, you know, l a Rams swagger
and confidence and and understanding of how to win football
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games to Jacksonville. And I don't think he was gonna
waste any time making a bold statement. And that's exactly
what he did. The Cleveland Browns applied kay too much.
Maybe that's be the case, but they got a great
player out of a to the deal and he's going
to be somebody that's gonna instaneously help him on both
sides of the ball and be a best friend to
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Trevor Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence is a quarterback that needs
a lot of good friends. But you haven't had Anny.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Anny. Are you playing?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Are you are you chugging to the frozen tundra of
Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
It just cut really windy here in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are going to go in now?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, you guys are talking about you guys are talking
about it being windy in Green Bay. I gets windy
here in Las Vegas. So it's I'm gonna retreat inside
to uh a little bit more stable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So yeah, I think they got the best. They got
the best player in the draft in Travis Hunter, and
somebody that's gonna put people in the stands. He's going
to help you offensively, he's gonna be able to help
you defensively, and he's going to be a really good
friend to a quarterback that needs some good friends in
Trevor Lawrence. This this, this helps Trevor Lawrence without question.
Travis Hunter does.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, he lights up a room, as you saw already
if you haven't seen and you know a couple of
his early you know, press conferences in in in Jacksonville
and and all accounts of what you've seen you know
him in Colorado. He's just got one of those personalities
that will lift a room up. And I'm sure he's
going to do the same thing on the field. He's
just electric. But but since you're you're there in the
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wind tunnels of Vegas, then he let's talk about their pick.
They have to be pretty excited that he was the
guy they wanted was there and they.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Got him right.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, there's no question about that. And you know Pete Carroll,
he wants to build an offense with a strong running
game and national genty is is that in spade. This
is a guy that you know can take it to
the house from anywhere on the field. He kind of
owns the Llegiate stadium. He's had some big games at
Allegiance Stadium against against UNLV. He can catch it, he
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can block. He's going to help Geno Smith. He's going
to help Brock Powers and Jacobe Byers. He's going to
help you run out the clock. He's going to help
you establish your run game and ball control. He can
pretty much do it all. And listening to Pete Carroll,
who all know he's either coached some of the great
you know running backs in this game has ever seen,
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or coached against some of the great running backs that
we've ever seen in this game. And his eyes were
lightened up when he was talking about Ashton gent and
how watching his tape HARKing him back to some of
the greats that he's either worked with or worked against.
And that's high praise for somebody like Pete Carroll to
talk up Ashing the way he did. And he's a
very unique player, and there's a case to be made
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that he's probably the most dynamic player in this draft,
maybe outside of of a Travis Hunter. But he just
happens to play a position that you know, kind of
gets a little bit diminished in some eyes. Analytically, you're
not supposed to take a running back that high all
that good stuff. But I think he's going to show
over the course of time, and it's on the Raiders
to build a good team around him that he was
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absolutely worthy of that sixth pick overall, all.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right, Benny.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
On the topic of running backs, the Chargers took one
with twenty second pick Hampton, and the GM Joe Horwood said,
if he were to fall to twenty two, we were
taking him.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It didn't really matter. Do you like that pick?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Omari and Hampton could place some football and he just
fits what Jim Harbaugh likes to do to a Tee.
There's a big, physical running back with speed production. He
didn't play behind the greatest offensive line at North Carolina,
but was still able to get it done at a
very very high level. I'm actually surprised he lasted to
the point he did. But again we go back to
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running backs and how this game looks at running backs
from a one lost share and provision or positional value
and the money and the finances and all that stuff
that I think, you know, looks at the game the
wrong way to me personally, Omar and Hampton. I believe
behind that offensive line you talk about rubbing behind big
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old Joe Alt and the guys that they have up front,
and the intentionality that Jim Harbaugh has to create a
running game.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And you talk about a best friend for Justin Herbert,
very very young quarterback Amari and Hapton is going to
be is going to be that this is a good
football player, No.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
No doubt, Benny.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Were you surprised, uh, of what the Giants did and
in drafting Jackson Dart First of all, I was surprised
what they you know, gone in the whole offseason getting
you know, Russell Wilson and and then Jamis Winston.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And now you're gonna you draft a kid in the
first round. And Jackson Dart, who you're hoping is is
going to be your your your future. I know, with
two veteran quarterbacks, maybe they're thinking he can sit there
and wait, wait a year, a year and a half,
a year, depending of Russ struggles or not. And and
and he gets uh, he gets some tutelitch first, and
you don't have to throw him into the fire. But
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what did you think about the Giants and what they did?
Because it kind of surprised me given that Brian Dable
is known as a quarterback whisper, a quarterback guy, a
quarterback guru, and yet having three quarterbacks in that room,
I just know the dynamic of that. It's going to
be awkward.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, and I'm wondering how that's all gonna play out eventually, Rodney,
You're right, he's gonna sit, you know, for a year
or so. The great news about Jackson Dark this guy
is only twenty one years old, so he's got plenty
of time on his side, as opposed to a Tyler
Shuck who's well like twenty six years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there you go. So I think that he goes to
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a really good situation. I think it kind of buys
Brian Sable or Dable and the general manager a little
bit of time. Now you know, they've got their young quarterback,
and I have a feeling I think I think they
liked them, no doubt about it, but I think ownership
kind of urged them. Hey, look, I understand that you're
on a short leash and you need to win.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Obviously you didn't take the quarterback with a third pick. Overall,
although they did try to trade up to number one
to get camp Wartz, they get an a for trying
in that regard, and then and then follow that up
by trading up to get Jackson Dart, and hey, look,
the Giants have had success with all miss quarterbacks. The
last one they had was pretty darn good. They want
a couple of Super Bowls with Eli Manning. Not saying
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that he's going to be Eli Manning, but there's enough
traits there in Jackson Dart, with the strong arm and
the athletic ability. He's kind of a he's a tough quarterback.
He's he's in fact, he's going to have to learn
a little bit to put the brakes on or learn
how to run out of bounds. That was one of
his issues in college. He's going to sacrifice his body.
You don't want him doing that too much. But there's
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something to work with there. And now he gets to
go to a situation where Russell Wilson is there and
at least for the next year he can learn and
when he's ready, he'll he'll get his opportunity. And I
know USC fans remember Jackson Dart. He wasn't bad when
he was with USC. There was a couple of injury,
you know, situations, and of course with Lincoln Riley showed up,
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brings his quarterback, Caleb Williams or no shame in moving
on and finding a better situation, knowing what the situation
was going to be at USC. But this guy can play.
He's played at the high level. There's some things that
he needs to clean up a little bit, some of
that recklessness, some of the progressions and things like that,
but he's going to have time to do that. So
he's in a really good situation, all right.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Final question.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Vinny Rams made a trade, traded twenty six and a
third rounder for the second the Falcon second rounder, seventh
rounder this year, first rounder in twenty twenty sixth?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I did a little bit. And it makes me wonder
if maybe they were in on Jackson Dart because because
if I remember, he went one pick, the Giants traded
up ahead of the Rams to take Jackson Dart and
then you know, five minutes later, the Rams are are
trading out of that position. So I wonder if that's
who they had their eye on. The Giants, you know,
beat them to the punch, and they just figured like, look,
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you know, let's go pick up an extra pick and
an extra first round pick. What a kind of a
coup that is that at that point draft? So that's
going to be something. And that's the luxury of being
where the Rams are in terms of their roster. They're
a stacked roster right now with a lot of young
guys that they feel can play right now, and so
that gives them a little bit of luxury to say, hey,
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you know, don't need to rush it here, Let's pick
up an extra first round pick next year. And think
about this. The last time the Rams had first round
picks was in twenty sixteen, when they traded up to
get Jared gobb next year's quarterback close. The class is
supposed to be pretty darn good. I wonder if they're
planning something posts Matthew Stafford and a way to deal
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with that. Now they have some arsenal to trade up
if they need to drop a quarterback next year, and
what's supposed to be a really loaded quarterback class, So
this might be one of those planning for the future
type moves. Not necessarily surprised. Let's need knows what he's doing,
and he's shown that you could draft well beyond the
first round. And now he picks up an extra first
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round pick next year and another pick this year. So
interesting to see what he does in this round and
moving forward in this draft though.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
All right, Benny, good stuff. Well you'll be bringing again,
bringing it, Benny, bringing it, Benny. You have any Are
you getting any sleep? Benny?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, I've gotten some sleep. Although I'm going to tell
you this guy, this is about Las Vegas. You you
you you you can't call yourself a true Las Vegaan
unless you're picking out your lawn chairs from your pool
because it gets wendy. I've had a I've had a
barbecue that literally got flipped over. In my backyard and
it just comes out of nowhere like it just did,
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so no joke. It gets Wendy here in the desert.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
All right, Well, stay low, Vinnie, stay lover for got, don't.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Put yourself Thank you? All right, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All right, have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, you guys, enjoy the rest of the draft.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
All right, there goes our good buddy, Betty bon signor
one o'clock, Dan Wichiel, join us. We'll talk Lakers getting
ready for Game three Minnesota tonight. But up next, have
you notice something, notice something unusual about some of the
Angel games?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Let's talk about that. Uh huh oh yeah, come on.
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Speaker 2 (37:05):
You know, Rodney and Life. It's the little things.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
The little things can make a big difference. If the
little things are handled well, you think, well, this is
a place I want to work because they look into
every detail. They take care of the little things, things
that most people wouldn't think of.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Here's an example.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So the Dodgers, let's say, are a getaway day meaning
they're leaving town the day of a game.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They're flying somewhere else. So normally, what time will that game.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Start at Dodger Stadium? A normal game other than Sunday
and a getaway day game? Oh, a getaway game, well,
usually it's a day game. If it's a getaway game,
it's a day game. Start start one.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Clock start, yeah, right, you know if it was crazy noon,
but normally one o'clock start. Next Wednesday, they have one
of these against Miami. As a matter of fact, get
away day you gotta play, go to the airport and
go and normally you're you're you're not going ten minutes, right,
You're not flying to Phoenix getaway day. So they do
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that because the game is over, you get out of there.
Wherever you're ending up, you end up and you probably
get a decent night's sleep. Well, you want to sleep
in the town that you're playing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
That is the.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Reasoning behind that. You don't want to fly in and
play that same day, right, there's difficult. Teams used to
do that, by the way, you used to even football
teams used to if there's a night game and it
was close by, then a lot of teams would fly
in that fly in Saturday morning. College teams and even
some pro teams fly in that morning and and and
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then fly right back out and play. They play the game,
fly right back out after the game. But those are
the teams that were you know, as I've often talked
about cheap it. Don't want to pay for that hotel
night's day for everybody.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And by the way, talking about next week for the Dodgers,
it's going to be two nights because they play Miami.
That's actually a twelve to ten first pitch at Dodger.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Stadium, Oh, twelve ten start, So they'll fly out.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
After the game, have a day off on Thursday, and
then begin their series against Atlanta on Friday. So they'll
be in Atlanta Wednesday night and Thursday night before they
actually play against Atlanta on Friday.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
And it's a cross country trip, three hour time zone
difference change. Absolutely, they want to get out of here,
you know, right after that day game.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Okay, So that's how the Dodgers do it. As a
matter of fact, most major league teams do it like that. Yeah, right,
you are thinking, You're thinking about your players. You're thinking
about your players, you know, their health, get some sleep,
be at your best. I mean sometimes things run avoidable,
that's pro sports. But at the very least we care
and we're working on it. Everybs what time the angel
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getaway game getaway game days are, every.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Time the games are.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Don't say they're later than one FRED because we know
Kevin just said a twelve to ten start for Dodgers
on Wednesday, and I would say latest.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It should be a one o'clock start if you're doing
a getaway game.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Recently, their day game was six twenty nine PM. As
a matter of fact, a lot of their getaway day
games are right around that period of time. Here's why.
According to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, there is a chart
agreed upon calculated flight time. So let's use Angels and Minnesota.
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The league in union agreed that a flight should take
three hours and one minute. The CBA states the latest
possible time for getaway games shall be determined by taking
the portion of the in flight time that exceeds two
and a half hours and subtracting that amount of time
from seven pm, hence six twenty nine. So they started
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it right before the deadline, and you go, well, why
would they do that? Well, first, you understand that they
started six twenty nine. They're not getting into where they're
going till two in the morning. They've got to play here,
go to the airport, fly to wherever it is they
might get into three in the morning. This is not
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the NBA, and then play the next day. Why do
they do that, Well, because you're going to draw more
people at six twenty nine at night than you aren't
one o'clock in the afternoon. More people are gonna have
the opportunity to go to the game around six point
thirty than one o'clock in the afternoon. And they're looking
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at it like okay, more people, well sure, on a weekday,
especially if it's a weekday, more money, more tickets being sold,
more revenue. So we'll delay this as long as we
can to make as much money as we can. And
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however that affects the players. That affects the players. They're players,
they get paid. Even the players say.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
This is not right, this is not good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know, we don't want to fly and get somewhere
at three thirty in the morning, try to go to sleep,
get up and play the next day's It sticks with
you a couple of days. But it's the little things
where the Dodgers will play at twelve ten or one
o'clock so they can get out of here and give
everybody a good night's sleep. The Angels play at six
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point thirty nine. And this is this is these games
are controlled by the Angels. Yeah, not like a network
thing where you know they it's already on the schedule
for six ten, so we got to start at six ten.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
These games and times are scheduled by the Angels. And
you see the home team, right, And so the Angels
then took it upon themselves. They say we're gonna start late,
We're gonna start at six ten as opposed to trying
to do a game at twelve ten like the Dodgers
would do, right, And they're probably I mean even with
the Dodgers, you know, in that Getaway game, they have
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a day off on Thursday, right, Kevin, what you said
they do? Meanwhile, day off on Thursday, So they're getting
out of here, going to the East Coast, getting a
day to kind of get themselves acclimated to the time change,
and then they play on Friday, whereas I think the
Angels are playing that next day.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
That was a day game.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
This happened yesterday. They played the virus last night at
six twenty nine, first pitch, come on game, took two
and a half hours flew out last night to give
to Minnesota today. Whether they'll play the Twins at four
thirty pm local time hour time not.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Even wow, four pm local times our time in La
our time, So two hours, seven seven thirty out there. Yeah. Still,
but they're playing basically the same day that they land.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Correct, Oh yeah, and getting there in the middle of
the night. Yeah, so they they will have played a game.
Trust me, those guys are not sleeping on that plane either. No,
you can't hear a game. You can't You're you're adrenaline
still going is still you know, your your your mind
is still racing. So it's taken you a minute. It's
going to take you a minute to come down from
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all of that adrenaline, you know, And unless everybody's loading
up on advill pms. I mean, it's just it's it's
it's crazy to think that they would subject their team
to something like that. Look at it like this, basing
it on our time, Pacific Coast time. They played at
six twenty nine yesterday, so between six twenty nine and
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four o'clock this afternoon, because we're basing it on our
time here, between six twenty nine and four o'clock this afternoon,
they played a game, got on a plane, flew to Minneapolis,
arrived in the middle of the night, tried to go
to sleep, get up, and will play another game less
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than twenty.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Four hours later.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
That would be like they played at six o'clock last
night in Anaheim, and tonight they played at four o'clock
in Anaheim. But they didn't have to fly anywhere.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Now, if there was if they didn't have to fly anywhere,
you say, no big deal. That's what they do all
the time. You know, it's play one day and then
they come back and play the next day. They don't
even really do that, you know, night game, day game.
It doesn't happen very often, but they would never do
it back to back.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You got the Angels flying in again, playing the same
day that they land. And like I said, it's very
difficult to sleep after a game, at least fall asleep,
not to mention having to get on a plane and
travel with that flight with three and a half four
hours to Minneapolis, yep, three on that plane where you
know you're you got little aches and whatever from the
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game you just played, and you want to stretch out
and relax and why down on your bed, But no,
you're on a flight and so things are gonna swell
up and all. Yeah, it's just bad not to give
them a day to recover after a uh after game,
but they got to go right back and play.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Kevin, bad bad, Come on, Kevin, Like you said, the
game last night was two and a half hours, right.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Two and a half hours, yes, and it was a
sixth start.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, so it's over at nine, right, okay? Thirty yeah, yeah,
eight thirty eighth.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, it's over at eight thirty. So from the
completion of the game at eight thirty, how long two
and a half hours, right till nine o'clock, nine o'clock
two and a half hour o'clock. Yeah, yeah, okay, nine
o'clock all right, So how far from nine o'clock the
game is over to when they get on the bus?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Is that another hour and a half.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
An hour, hour and a half for everybody to get showered,
get their bags back, get them thrown on the bus.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
And go.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So let's say it's ten to thirty. Let's say it's
ten thirty. Now you have to drive to the airport.
What is that forty minutes? Manah flying out a yeah?
Five to the air you know, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, Okay,
it's ten forty five by time you take off. What
time is it eleven fifteen?
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Well, you get to the airport, Yeah, this is gonna
take you thirty to forty five minutes for everybody to
get loaded on and all that.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, so let's say you go to eleven fifteen. It's
three hours. It's three hours, so that would be what
two o'clock in the morning our time when you land. Yeah,
it'd be two o'clock in the morning. Now when you
take off, when you land, you go to eleven thirty.
Oh oh, oh, got you got, you got you go
to eleven thirty. It's three hours. You get there two
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thirty in the morning. Well you understand, you've just thirty
you get there two thirty hard times time. Yeah, it's
four to thirty in the morning there. Yeah, so now
you get to the hotel and the sun's coming off.
Now it's time to go to sleep. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah,
it's the little things. It's and then when they think
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they play when the next game, it's it's four o'clock
our time, four o'clock our time, right, Well.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
That's six it's it's four to thirty, so six thirty
local time. In Minnesota, it will be four to thirty
our time.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Right, so four thirty our time.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
But you got to remember they got to be at
the stadium but two hours before the game starts, right,
and some guys get there earlier than that, so they're
there to thirty our time.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Think about it again. I started by saying, what distinguishes
one organization from the other. It's the little things. Well,
the Lakers deal with all of the little things. Tonight,
game three of their playoff series against the Timberwolves. We'll
go to Minneapolis and join dan Wiki next
Ah, there we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy LA Sports Big three hour show today, The
Friday Show where anything goes, anything goes Rodney anybody. So
here's the deal. As you are listening, if you are
inclined to call the show and comment on something, please
feel free to do so. But it is Friday. We
normally don't care. So if you call because we don't
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care on Friday, and if Kevin does pick up the phone,
he may or may not because it's Friday. And then
if you can convince him that you have something impactful
to say, then he will determine if he cares. If
he cares, then we could care. If he cares, we
may not care because it's the Friday Show, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, that's a lot of information. Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know my wife knows all the time. You know,
my wife says too many words, too many words.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, sometimes he's right, my goodness, Uh yeah, I know.
We don't care. For sure, we don't care. Put that
all on Kevin. Kevin is going to screen it and
tell you if if you matter or not.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, now it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Makes that determination, then welcome to the show. Okay, A
lot to get to let's get started with this. How
about those Clippers last night?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Ooh we how.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
About them putting it on Denver. See, we knew going
into the series the Clippers were the better team. Now,
that first game they turned the ball over twenty times
and you're not going to win that way. And they
went into overtime and turned it over four times in overtime.
But last night was an entirely different story. Rodney, I
don't know what would have to happen for the Clippers
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not to win that series. I think they are completely better.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I do too, and I just think that I
think Denver is in disarray as well. I think they're
all screwed up mentally. You know, the whole situation, firing
the coach and the GM that just had no recipe
for a good, happy ending at the end of the season.
Pardon my use of words, but yeah, I had no
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they had no chance when that happened, and just you
could tell it to fractured locker room. Then he got
shot to the joker yelling at his teammates. When have
you ever seen that from the Joker? I mean he's
you know, he's more reserved. Guy doesn't really say a
whole lot, and it's just you know, and if he does,
you never really see him getting all over his guys
or getting in people's face, especially off the court. But
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he's on the bench doing that. And then after the
game he could tell he was completely frustrated in the
way they played. It's not gonna end well for the Nuggets.
But yeah, and you're right, and the Clippers are playing
well at the right time, you know. Norman Powell, uh,
you know, we always talked about, you know, Kawhi is,
he's health, He's gonna do his thing. James Harden seems
like he's come to play. But where's that third guy,
(02:48):
that fourth guy. It's got to be someone like a
Norman Powell or Zobots has got to come through other
than you know, James Harden and Kawhi and those guys
have been coming through and normal Powell did last night
not only offensively, but offensively as well. So the Clippers
are rolling first playoff game and into it, Fred Rocking,
I'll tell you Norman Powell, as you would say, Rodney,
(03:09):
he's a bad man.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Norman Powell. Will not will do not step to Norman Powell. Now,
I'm not saying he's going to light it up every night.
But even if he's not lighting it up, you do
not want to step to that man.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
No, you're just looking at him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's like, oh God, if you look at him the
wrong way, it looks like he's going to tear your
head off. And maybe that's just the way he looks.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know. Bad idea.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Jamal Murray trying to lift him up there in Game
two and it just got him, got him going a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know, he's kind of he's kind of a still water,
but still waters run deep.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So a very good outing by the Clippers last night,
led by as many as thirty one, And that's about
all you need to hear. If you're beating the team
thirty one in the playoffs, it's kind of like okasee
in Memphis. If you're beaten teams by or you're ahead
by that many points in the playoffs, you know the
other team has got real problems. Either your far superior
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or the other team is really struggling. So I don't
see how Denver comes back. The Clippers we said would
win the series, and now it looks like they are
going to win the series tonight. You have three options
you get to pick. You have Lakers in Minnesota you
can pick that. Kings and Edmonton you can pick that.
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Dodgers and Pirates you can pick that. So let's set
the scene first.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Kings.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Kings fans, remember yesterday we talked about Skinner, the goalie,
Stewart's inner and the crowd screaming skin, which is my
favorite thing, and they let him have it the whole night.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes they did, Yes, they did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And after the Kings scored their fifth goal, and I said,
I saw it on the TV broadcast, asked, after they
scored their fifth goal, you could see, just for a
fraction of a moment that Stuart Skinner was defeated. He
was defeated. You could see it was his body language.
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He was defeated. He's not playing tonight. They're starting the
backup goalie because he's not starting tonight. I knew it
when I saw that, and I told you, I said, God,
he looks defeated and he's their starting goalie. And now
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in the playoffs they're starting their backup goalie. What does
that tell you about how they feel, how concerned they
are that they're not even going to start the starter.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, it's like in the movie Miracle or the nineteen
nineteen eighty Olympics where the Russians the best in the
world and they had the best goalie in the world
and they pulled them in the third period.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Fred, they pulled them. He just pulled the.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Third the best goalie in the world, these young college kids,
but they made them.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But think about it, though, Fred, the.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Kings have been scoring at will right, no disrespect to Skinner,
but they've been scoring on him at will. I mean
they they even in the first game, they go four
to zero out of the gate before anybody even blinked.
And yes, Edmonton made a run and came back, but
it was like ho hum, okay you came back. Now
we're going to score another goal. Oh oh, you tied
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it up again. Okay, let's just go win it. And
they did it. And so you know, it's like you
had three games, right, well two games. You had two
games and you gave up Do you get up twelve
twelve goals in two games? He gave up eleven eleven games.
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But so you know you got to make a change.
You're going back home. Oh down, oh two? You know
you got to make some sort of change because that
ain't working.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Connor McDavid said it best before the series started. We've
been waiting for this moment all season. We've been waiting this.
This is the moment we have been waiting for since
the beginning of the season. Well, meet your moment. Enjoy
your moment, Connor, because your moment has come.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Hey, do you think they come out overly aggressive and
be the cheap shot artist that they are?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like you've said they are, that the Oilers come out and.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
They really I mean they already are known as being
you know, dirty players, as you say they do. They
come out and be even more aggressive and really borderline
on that cheap shot dirty play.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
One, not even a question not be ready, no doubt.
In my mind, penalty box is full. Now what we'll
see tonight is how the officials call the game. With
the game being played in Edmonton. Yeah, the thing is
as dirty as they are. I'm not so sure the
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officials can turn the other cheek. You know, if it's
borderline in your home, you probably get the call, right,
you probably get that call.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
If it's close.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Maybe it was, Yeah, there was that questionable whether it
was high sticking. I forget who it was on, but
it was on the follow through right and it wasn't Yeah,
so they didn't call it and Edmonton and then the
Kings end up scoring a goal right at that point,
and Edmonton the players and coaches were you know, going
crazy about it, but they didn't call it because they
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really they reviewed, didn't looked at it, but that call
and Edmonton may have gone against the Kings, right. And
the other thing the Kings have to watch for tonight
being up to all in the series, and of course
Edmonton being the world's darlings with the great Connor McDavid.
So what the Kings have to watch for tonight is
(09:01):
I assure you the officials will not turn the other
way if the Kings do something. Now, if it's close tonight,
if it could be a penalty, if it's not a penalty,
the Kings will be penalized.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
They better be ready for that too, because that's the thing.
It can get in your head. It's like, oh, man,
you've been calling it. In the King's mind, everything's been
good because you won, and you look up and go, yeah,
they're calling a good game, the refs. But if you're Edmonton,
you're like they're kind of screwing us a little bit.
You're feeling like, we gotta beat not only the Kings,
(09:35):
but we got to beat the refs too, and now
they're coming home. And what you can't do if you're
the Kings, if there's a call it go doesn't go
your way, or there's a couple of them that don't
go your way, you can't let that get into your head.
Then you start thinking more about the refs than what
you got to do on the ice, and that's just
go beat Edmonton, because now you're distracted, and you don't
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want to get distracted. And that's the thing that can
happen when you go on the road and you think
you're you know you're going to get homeward anyway. Then
you start believing that inside and you stop playing. And
the Kings can't afford to do that. But I think
Freddie is going to be I don't think this is
uh basically game three. Game three is either going to
(10:19):
be a close win by the Kings or the Kings
get blown.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Out one or the other.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I could see that. I could see it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The thing that you don't want to do because of
the way the game is going to be called and
what you just said could be the result of this
because of the way the game is going to be called.
The Kings cannot They need to be aggressive, but not
take penalties because if they start taking penalties. Connor McDavid
now is on the ice with the man advantage every time. Yeah,
(10:52):
and he can, he can ring them up quick. So
you've got to really watch that tonight. Don't take unnecessary
penalties because you're gonna get penalties either way. Don't take
the unnecessary ones. Don't put yoursel you're right, because it's
easy to do that. Easy to do that, you know,
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especially on the road, and then you get you know,
get again, it gets into your head.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're like, no.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So we have King's Edmonton or Lakers Timberwolves. Okay, so
now that series is tied at one, Lakers go into Minnesota.
The Lakers impose their will. The other night at the
Crypt imposed their will. I think delivered a powerful message. Sure,
you came out in Game one, you punched us right
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in the mouth, all right, So maybe we didn't have
our hands up to defend ourselves, which is on us
because we know we should defend ourselves either way. Now
we're going to show you what it's about. And what
it was about was a terrific defensive performance, Austin Reeves,
Lebron and Luca doing what they needed to do. And
now the Lakers and Timberwolves are tied at a game
(12:02):
a piece, but they go back to Minnesota. Rodney, I
would say to you, as you said about this Kings game,
this is critical game three for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh yeah, oh this is this is huge. This is huge.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
First of all, you gotta you gotta be ready to
withstand the storm at the start of the game from
the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
They got to come out on fire. The crowd's going
to be into it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Alex Rodriguez is gonna be down there, cheered, leading and
doing his best mL CAR imitation.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So you just gotta you gotta be ready for that.
And if you can take that punch early, you'll be okay.
But you don't want to play ketch up the whole game,
you know, And the Lakers tend to do that from
time to time, get behind and then try to play ketchup,
and that's exhausting.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But I agree with you. I think this is a huge,
huge game, more so for the Lakers to win than
it is for the Timberwolves to win. Tomber was a plan.
You know, they're like, nobody expects us to win anyway,
so you know, we don't win this one, We'll win
the next one tied up and anything can happen going forward.
For the Lakers, they go down two games to one
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with another one in Minnesota, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Then it then it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Then it starts to creep in because all the noise
from outside is like, you know, Lakers won and done,
Lakers are gonna get bounce in the first round. All
the luca hype that the do is off the lily
or you know whatever they say it is, the honeymoon
period is over and bye bye Lakers. All those things
will come up and all the talking heads will act
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like they had a crystal ball and they knew this
was going to happen. So they gotta they gotta come
out and be ready to play, more so than they've
been ready to play in any of these these first
two games.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Now, I think the Lakers tonight, and that's a great point.
Minnesota will come out very strong. You have to expect that.
And the NBA is a game of runs. One team
goes on the run, the other one comes back is
just who has the run at the end to win it.
But I think tonight, if Minnesota comes out that way
and they start on a little bit of a run,
Lakers have to withstand that. You have to hang in
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and then what they have to do is go on
their own run and not let them back in the game.
When the Lakers get control, and there will be a
point where it'll be close, you know, one team will
take control. When the Lakers take control, they've got to
hold control. Yeah, they have to impose their will again, much.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like they did in Game two.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right, they they got ahead, they were up big, and
then Minnesota started a little run, but then the Lakers
shut that down immediately and went on their run. So
every time the Timberwoods cut it to single digits, the
Lakers went right back on their own run. They not
so fast. We're not gonna let you back into this game.
And they have to do the same thing to your point.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Next up, we have the Dodgers and the Pirates at
Yammoto against Paul Schemes. Now that'll be fun to watch, uh.
And for the Dodgers, it's probably worst case scenario. They've
been struggling hitting, and now they're gonna see the guy
who you know, for the next ten years will always
be in the sy young running. He's that good. Yeah ya,
Momoto has been terrific this year. So there you have
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three games Lakers, Wolves, Kings, Edmonton, Dodgers, Pirates. Yeah, rank
in the order in which you believe the team has
the best chance to win. So who has the better
chance to win tonight Lakers against Minnesota, Kings against Edmonton,
Dodgers against Pirates.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh yeah, oh tonight. Oh you know, I was gonna say,
didn't throw the Clippers in there, but then I play
tonight Akers, Timberwolves, King versus Edmonton, and Dodgers versus Pittsburgh.
I will say Dodgers versus Pittsburgh. Even those schemes is
(15:59):
going for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has no offense. They can't score.
They're not gonna score. I mean, they got some young talent,
but they're not gonna score on Yamamoto. And you know,
if the Dodgers gonna have good at bath again, scheme
get him up out of there, or even score one
run against them, then then they got to They got
a good chance. But I think Dodgers coming home after
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that devastating two game road trip in Chicago. They'll be
ready to play. Yamamoto will hold them down, and again
Pittsburgh can't score. So I'm going Dodgers in this one. Fred,
what about you?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I would say of the three, I like, I like
the King's chances the best. I'm always gonna go with
the Kings. I think they'll go up there tonight and
I think they'll deliver a very solid message. And I
believe that that will be the final nail in the
coffin for the Oilers, because if they're down three, oh,
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they're not coming back to win. I think the Kings win.
I think all three win. I do think all three
win tonight. But I would say number one on my lists,
the Kings will beat Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, wow, down oh to Edmonton and that that environment,
huh m hm. You give the Kings the best chance? Kay, Okay,
I'm doing it. I don't care, I'm doing it, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Which environment do you think is going to be more
wild and crazy? Edmonton? Edmonton or Minnesota? Edmonton? Yeah? Hockey Edmonton?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, Okay, even though it's the Lakers coming to town,
to Minnesota, it's it's still gonna be Edmonton versus the Kings.
I mean, it doesn't matter what sport. Everybody hates LA.
There'll be a beat LA chant in the stands in Edmonton,
I'm sure. But they'll be crazier than that because it's hockey. Yeah,
they'll be beat l A and Edmonton. They'll be beat
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LA in Minnesota and here at Dodger Stadium will say
who are the pirates? Who are those guys? Which why
I give the Dodgers the Edges, the team I believe
is gonna win, not one of.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The NFL drafters in the books. Where's the door Sanders?
What happened boy going in? And why to talk about
him coming out? Nothing? Vettie Bonce and your joins us next.
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, it is a Friday. We
absolutely do not care. That's what we do on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We throw it all out into the wind and see
see what happens, See what happens. And there was a
lot of wind going on last night in Green Bay,
but a crazy, crazy crowd. And let's bring on our
expert our man, Vittie Bonce and your Vinny.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
How are you brother?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm doing I'm doing great. And I think that there's
there's thirty two teams fan bases out there that do
care today. Uh, dis respect you, We don't care Friday.
But man, there's some happy fan bases, including here in
Las Vegas with Ashton jen d and across the board.
It was a great night last night. And uh, there's
some really good football players left on the board, Rodney,
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and I expect some fan bases are gonna be pretty
happy at the conclusion of tonight as well.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, all right, Benny, So let's let's start with the
big news and the elephant in the room at Shador
Sanders does not get picked in the first round. You know,
a lot of speculation with him on you know, on
leading up to the draft. I mean it was it
went from the season over, you know, him, him and
cam Ward being you know, could go one, two or
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or or Shador. They could interchange and Shador could be
the number one pick. And it turns out cam Ward
was the consensus with by everybody's everybody's charting from what
we're hearing now that you know, it wasn't even close.
It was cam Ward and then everybody else. But with Shador,
what what what do you think Vinnie, Why do you
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think the narrative went so crazy and Haywire the last
couple of weeks leading up to this, to the point
where people just like, well, he's mediocre and he'd be
the seventh player picked if he was in last year's draft,
or he's this and that. Do you think all of
the the conversation that he and Dion had before the draft,
or where he may or may not play, or what
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he wants to do that played a big role in
to him not getting to chosen right now.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There's a lot to that to that question, but I
think ultimately, run me and you know, you know this
as well as as well as anyone a couple of things.
Number one, you know, in the first round, teams look
for dynamic traits, you know, the canon arm, the ability
to run, something that separates yourself, you know, kind of
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from the pack and all along. You know, and people
that I talked to about Sanders, you know, this is guy.
This guy is fantastic from the shoulders up. He's as
accurate as any quarterback. He you know, he he could anticipate,
he can throw, you know, his receivers open, he has
touch and all of those things. He just lacks great size,
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great athletic ability, and a great arm. And for those reasons,
I think teams were like, look, good quarterback, probably has
the potential to be a really good quarterback in the NFL,
but in the first round, we want to see something
dynamic about you, and there just wasn't that. I disagree.
I think he's gonna be a really good quarterback. Throw
out all the all the all the things I just
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talked about. It's really about getting the job done, and
he's always gotten the job done. And in fact, he
went to two programs that you know, we're sort of
dying on the vine and breathing life into them as
their quarterback and turn two programs around. I think he's
gonna be worthy of a of an NFL team and
will eventually turn into a really good quarterback. But I
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think this is the case where projectibles and athletic ability
and and elite traits kind of came into play. And
I think there'll be some team are going to regret.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That Oliver hyped going in Vinnie. Could that simply be
the case, In other words, if he hadn't received the
hype and the noise surrounding him, maybe then it wouldn't
be a surprise he didn't go in the first round,
and let's say he goes in the second and turns
out to be a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Do you think this is just a function of the
hype A little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Of that, because inside buildings, that's and I think that's
the key to the whole thing. Inside NFL buildings, I
don't know that he was ever really looked at as
a first round talent. And and and Rodnie you know
this as well. Not every quarterback that's drafted in the
first round has a first round grade. It's just that
deposition is so important that teams reach, you know, for
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first in the first round, even on quarterbacks that they
don't necessarily have a first round talent. And but usually,
you know, as is the case, quarterbacks will have something
that you look at and project, wow, this is special,
that arm is special, that running ability is special. He
just lacked that. But your point, Fred, I do think
like the hype from fans and on television, you know,
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you're like, oh, this is a flam dunk first rounder,
but when you talk to people in the NFL that
wasn't always the case, and now it's it'll be especially
to see exactly where he ultimately does land. And I
think one thing that really hurt him in the whole
scheme of things, you know, was the Raiders trading for
Gino Smith. I think if the Raiders still had a
quarterback need at number six, or didn't have the caliber
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of quarterback in Gino Smith that they do have, I
think they would have been more pressed to add a
starting quarterback. And I know that there's a lot of
connections to Shoudar Sanders, and I know there's a lot
of you know, adjuration for him inside the Raiders building,
which is now I think a lot of eyes go
on to that thirty seventh fit for the Raiders. Is
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that where they pull the trigger on him and let
him develop behind Geo Smith? Or are they still have
kind of Marbo win now mode, especially with as deep
a draftedness is it's a really good players that can
help them right now they turned in that direction a
quarterback at that point.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, and what out you know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The other team obviously is the Browns, who everybody thought
was going to get Travis Hunter but traded that away.
But they've got I believe what the thirty second pick
and or or the first pick today, and then they've
got like the fourth pick today, So I think, yeah,
thirty six or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Thirty two and thirty Yeah, thirty two and thirty five,
thirty two and thirty six byke.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, And if on the Browns, would I take him?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But but I've heard from people in the NFL that
they don't they don't see it going in that direction.
And you know, I've even been told keeping an eye
on Tyler Shuck, the Louisville quarterback, right, you know, in
that in one of those positions for for the Browns.
And you know, you gotta sometimes go back and look
back at history. Tyler Shuck was a pretty highly regarded
quarterback coming out of high school. He signed with Oregon.
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He ended up going to Texas A and M, but
injury sort of derailed him, and you know, he kind
of fell off the map, you know, in terms of
the national perspective. But this was always a really good quarterback.
And if you go back in time, he was he
was probably a highly higher rated quarterback coming out of
high school that Shador was. That's neither here nor there.
But it's not like he came out of nowhere. This
isn't bad. That was a very highly recruited quarterback who's
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just now been able to be healthy for a few
years and showing what he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Fuck to trade, Travis Hunter. Were you surprised by that?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Not from the Jacksonville Jaguars perspective? You know, James Gladstone,
who learned at the at the hip of less Seed
all those years with the Rams. People that I talked
to in the NFL, felt like he was going to
try to make a bold statement. He was going to
bring some of that, you know, l a Rams swagger
and confidence and and understanding of how to win football
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games to Jacksonville. And I don't think he was gonna
waste any time making a bold statement. And that's exactly
what he did. The Cleveland Browns applied kay too much.
Maybe that's be the case, but they got a great
player out of a to the deal and he's going
to be somebody that's gonna instaneously help him on both
sides of the ball and be a best friend to
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Trevor Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence is a quarterback that needs
a lot of good friends. But you haven't had Anny.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Anny. Are you playing?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Are you are you chugging to the frozen tundra of
Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
It just cut really windy here in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are going to go in now?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, you guys are talking about you guys are talking
about it being windy in Green Bay. I gets windy
here in Las Vegas. So it's I'm gonna retreat inside
to uh a little bit more stable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So yeah, I think they got the best. They got
the best player in the draft in Travis Hunter, and
somebody that's gonna put people in the stands. He's going
to help you offensively, he's gonna be able to help
you defensively, and he's going to be a really good
friend to a quarterback that needs some good friends in
Trevor Lawrence. This this, this helps Trevor Lawrence without question.
Travis Hunter does.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, he lights up a room, as you saw already
if you haven't seen and you know a couple of
his early you know, press conferences in in in Jacksonville
and and all accounts of what you've seen you know
him in Colorado. He's just got one of those personalities
that will lift a room up. And I'm sure he's
going to do the same thing on the field. He's
just electric. But but since you're you're there in the
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wind tunnels of Vegas, then he let's talk about their pick.
They have to be pretty excited that he was the
guy they wanted was there and they.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Got him right.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, there's no question about that. And you know Pete Carroll,
he wants to build an offense with a strong running
game and national genty is is that in spade. This
is a guy that you know can take it to
the house from anywhere on the field. He kind of
owns the Llegiate stadium. He's had some big games at
Allegiance Stadium against against UNLV. He can catch it, he
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can block. He's going to help Geno Smith. He's going
to help Brock Powers and Jacobe Byers. He's going to
help you run out the clock. He's going to help
you establish your run game and ball control. He can
pretty much do it all. And listening to Pete Carroll,
who all know he's either coached some of the great
you know running backs in this game has ever seen,
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or coached against some of the great running backs that
we've ever seen in this game. And his eyes were
lightened up when he was talking about Ashton gent and
how watching his tape HARKing him back to some of
the greats that he's either worked with or worked against.
And that's high praise for somebody like Pete Carroll to
talk up Ashing the way he did. And he's a
very unique player, and there's a case to be made
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that he's probably the most dynamic player in this draft,
maybe outside of of a Travis Hunter. But he just
happens to play a position that you know, kind of
gets a little bit diminished in some eyes. Analytically, you're
not supposed to take a running back that high all
that good stuff. But I think he's going to show
over the course of time, and it's on the Raiders
to build a good team around him that he was
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absolutely worthy of that sixth pick overall, all.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right, Benny.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
On the topic of running backs, the Chargers took one
with twenty second pick Hampton, and the GM Joe Horwood said,
if he were to fall to twenty two, we were
taking him.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It didn't really matter. Do you like that pick?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Omari and Hampton could place some football and he just
fits what Jim Harbaugh likes to do to a Tee.
There's a big, physical running back with speed production. He
didn't play behind the greatest offensive line at North Carolina,
but was still able to get it done at a
very very high level. I'm actually surprised he lasted to
the point he did. But again we go back to
(29:33):
running backs and how this game looks at running backs
from a one lost share and provision or positional value
and the money and the finances and all that stuff
that I think, you know, looks at the game the
wrong way to me personally, Omar and Hampton. I believe
behind that offensive line you talk about rubbing behind big
(29:53):
old Joe Alt and the guys that they have up front,
and the intentionality that Jim Harbaugh has to create a
running game.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And you talk about a best friend for Justin Herbert,
very very young quarterback Amari and Hapton is going to
be is going to be that this is a good
football player, No.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
No doubt, Benny.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Were you surprised, uh, of what the Giants did and
in drafting Jackson Dart First of all, I was surprised
what they you know, gone in the whole offseason getting
you know, Russell Wilson and and then Jamis Winston.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And now you're gonna you draft a kid in the
first round. And Jackson Dart, who you're hoping is is
going to be your your your future. I know, with
two veteran quarterbacks, maybe they're thinking he can sit there
and wait, wait a year, a year and a half,
a year, depending of Russ struggles or not. And and
and he gets uh, he gets some tutelitch first, and
you don't have to throw him into the fire. But
(30:49):
what did you think about the Giants and what they did?
Because it kind of surprised me given that Brian Dable
is known as a quarterback whisper, a quarterback guy, a
quarterback guru, and yet having three quarterbacks in that room,
I just know the dynamic of that. It's going to
be awkward.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, and I'm wondering how that's all gonna play out eventually, Rodney,
You're right, he's gonna sit, you know, for a year
or so. The great news about Jackson Dark this guy
is only twenty one years old, so he's got plenty
of time on his side, as opposed to a Tyler
Shuck who's well like twenty six years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there you go. So I think that he goes to
(31:32):
a really good situation. I think it kind of buys
Brian Sable or Dable and the general manager a little
bit of time. Now you know, they've got their young quarterback,
and I have a feeling I think I think they
liked them, no doubt about it, but I think ownership
kind of urged them. Hey, look, I understand that you're
on a short leash and you need to win.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Obviously you didn't take the quarterback with a third pick. Overall,
although they did try to trade up to number one
to get camp Wartz, they get an a for trying
in that regard, and then and then follow that up
by trading up to get Jackson Dart, and hey, look,
the Giants have had success with all miss quarterbacks. The
last one they had was pretty darn good. They want
a couple of Super Bowls with Eli Manning. Not saying
(32:14):
that he's going to be Eli Manning, but there's enough
traits there in Jackson Dart, with the strong arm and
the athletic ability. He's kind of a he's a tough quarterback.
He's he's in fact, he's going to have to learn
a little bit to put the brakes on or learn
how to run out of bounds. That was one of
his issues in college. He's going to sacrifice his body.
You don't want him doing that too much. But there's
(32:36):
something to work with there. And now he gets to
go to a situation where Russell Wilson is there and
at least for the next year he can learn and
when he's ready, he'll he'll get his opportunity. And I
know USC fans remember Jackson Dart. He wasn't bad when
he was with USC. There was a couple of injury,
you know, situations, and of course with Lincoln Riley showed up,
(32:58):
brings his quarterback, Caleb Williams or no shame in moving
on and finding a better situation, knowing what the situation
was going to be at USC. But this guy can play.
He's played at the high level. There's some things that
he needs to clean up a little bit, some of
that recklessness, some of the progressions and things like that,
but he's going to have time to do that. So
he's in a really good situation, all right.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Final question.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Vinny Rams made a trade, traded twenty six and a
third rounder for the second the Falcon second rounder, seventh
rounder this year, first rounder in twenty twenty sixth?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I did a little bit. And it makes me wonder
if maybe they were in on Jackson Dart because because
if I remember, he went one pick, the Giants traded
up ahead of the Rams to take Jackson Dart and
then you know, five minutes later, the Rams are are
trading out of that position. So I wonder if that's
who they had their eye on. The Giants, you know,
beat them to the punch, and they just figured like, look,
(33:53):
you know, let's go pick up an extra pick and
an extra first round pick. What a kind of a
coup that is that at that point draft? So that's
going to be something. And that's the luxury of being
where the Rams are in terms of their roster. They're
a stacked roster right now with a lot of young
guys that they feel can play right now, and so
that gives them a little bit of luxury to say, hey,
(34:15):
you know, don't need to rush it here, Let's pick
up an extra first round pick next year. And think
about this. The last time the Rams had first round
picks was in twenty sixteen, when they traded up to
get Jared gobb next year's quarterback close. The class is
supposed to be pretty darn good. I wonder if they're
planning something posts Matthew Stafford and a way to deal
(34:36):
with that. Now they have some arsenal to trade up
if they need to drop a quarterback next year, and
what's supposed to be a really loaded quarterback class, So
this might be one of those planning for the future
type moves. Not necessarily surprised. Let's need knows what he's doing,
and he's shown that you could draft well beyond the
first round. And now he picks up an extra first
(34:59):
round pick next year and another pick this year. So
interesting to see what he does in this round and
moving forward in this draft though.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
All right, Benny, good stuff. Well you'll be bringing again,
bringing it, Benny, bringing it, Benny. You have any Are
you getting any sleep? Benny?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, I've gotten some sleep. Although I'm going to tell
you this guy, this is about Las Vegas. You you
you you you can't call yourself a true Las Vegaan
unless you're picking out your lawn chairs from your pool
because it gets wendy. I've had a I've had a
barbecue that literally got flipped over. In my backyard and
it just comes out of nowhere like it just did,
(35:36):
so no joke. It gets Wendy here in the desert.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
All right, Well, stay low, Vinnie, stay lover for got, don't.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Put yourself Thank you? All right, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All right, have a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, you guys, enjoy the rest of the draft.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
All right, there goes our good buddy, Betty bon signor
one o'clock, Dan Wichiel, join us. We'll talk Lakers getting
ready for Game three Minnesota tonight. But up next, have
you notice something, notice something unusual about some of the
Angel games?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Let's talk about that. Uh huh oh yeah, come on.
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Speaker 2 (37:05):
You know, Rodney and Life. It's the little things.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
The little things can make a big difference. If the
little things are handled well, you think, well, this is
a place I want to work because they look into
every detail. They take care of the little things, things
that most people wouldn't think of.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Here's an example.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So the Dodgers, let's say, are a getaway day meaning
they're leaving town the day of a game.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They're flying somewhere else. So normally, what time will that game.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Start at Dodger Stadium? A normal game other than Sunday
and a getaway day game? Oh, a getaway game, well,
usually it's a day game. If it's a getaway game,
it's a day game. Start start one.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Clock start, yeah, right, you know if it was crazy noon,
but normally one o'clock start. Next Wednesday, they have one
of these against Miami. As a matter of fact, get
away day you gotta play, go to the airport and
go and normally you're you're you're not going ten minutes, right,
You're not flying to Phoenix getaway day. So they do
(38:15):
that because the game is over, you get out of there.
Wherever you're ending up, you end up and you probably
get a decent night's sleep. Well, you want to sleep
in the town that you're playing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
That is the.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Reasoning behind that. You don't want to fly in and
play that same day, right, there's difficult. Teams used to
do that, by the way, you used to even football
teams used to if there's a night game and it
was close by, then a lot of teams would fly
in that fly in Saturday morning. College teams and even
some pro teams fly in that morning and and and
(38:52):
then fly right back out and play. They play the game,
fly right back out after the game. But those are
the teams that were you know, as I've often talked
about cheap it. Don't want to pay for that hotel
night's day for everybody.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And by the way, talking about next week for the Dodgers,
it's going to be two nights because they play Miami.
That's actually a twelve to ten first pitch at Dodger.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Stadium, Oh, twelve ten start, So they'll fly out.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
After the game, have a day off on Thursday, and
then begin their series against Atlanta on Friday. So they'll
be in Atlanta Wednesday night and Thursday night before they
actually play against Atlanta on Friday.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
And it's a cross country trip, three hour time zone
difference change. Absolutely, they want to get out of here,
you know, right after that day game.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Okay, So that's how the Dodgers do it. As a
matter of fact, most major league teams do it like that. Yeah, right,
you are thinking, You're thinking about your players. You're thinking
about your players, you know, their health, get some sleep,
be at your best. I mean sometimes things run avoidable,
that's pro sports. But at the very least we care
and we're working on it. Everybs what time the angel
(39:53):
getaway game getaway game days are, every.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Time the games are.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Don't say they're later than one FRED because we know
Kevin just said a twelve to ten start for Dodgers
on Wednesday, and I would say latest.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It should be a one o'clock start if you're doing
a getaway game.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Recently, their day game was six twenty nine PM. As
a matter of fact, a lot of their getaway day
games are right around that period of time. Here's why.
According to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, there is a chart
agreed upon calculated flight time. So let's use Angels and Minnesota.
(40:34):
The league in union agreed that a flight should take
three hours and one minute. The CBA states the latest
possible time for getaway games shall be determined by taking
the portion of the in flight time that exceeds two
and a half hours and subtracting that amount of time
from seven pm, hence six twenty nine. So they started
(40:54):
it right before the deadline, and you go, well, why
would they do that? Well, first, you understand that they
started six twenty nine. They're not getting into where they're
going till two in the morning. They've got to play here,
go to the airport, fly to wherever it is they
might get into three in the morning. This is not
(41:16):
the NBA, and then play the next day. Why do
they do that, Well, because you're going to draw more
people at six twenty nine at night than you aren't
one o'clock in the afternoon. More people are gonna have
the opportunity to go to the game around six point
thirty than one o'clock in the afternoon. And they're looking
(41:39):
at it like okay, more people, well sure, on a weekday,
especially if it's a weekday, more money, more tickets being sold,
more revenue. So we'll delay this as long as we
can to make as much money as we can. And
(42:01):
however that affects the players. That affects the players. They're players,
they get paid. Even the players say.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
This is not right, this is not good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know, we don't want to fly and get somewhere
at three thirty in the morning, try to go to sleep,
get up and play the next day's It sticks with
you a couple of days. But it's the little things
where the Dodgers will play at twelve ten or one
o'clock so they can get out of here and give
everybody a good night's sleep. The Angels play at six
(42:31):
point thirty nine. And this is this is these games
are controlled by the Angels. Yeah, not like a network
thing where you know they it's already on the schedule
for six ten, so we got to start at six ten.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
These games and times are scheduled by the Angels. And
you see the home team, right, And so the Angels
then took it upon themselves. They say we're gonna start late,
We're gonna start at six ten as opposed to trying
to do a game at twelve ten like the Dodgers
would do, right, And they're probably I mean even with
the Dodgers, you know, in that Getaway game, they have
(43:05):
a day off on Thursday, right, Kevin, what you said
they do? Meanwhile, day off on Thursday, So they're getting
out of here, going to the East Coast, getting a
day to kind of get themselves acclimated to the time change,
and then they play on Friday, whereas I think the
Angels are playing that next day.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
That was a day game.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
This happened yesterday. They played the virus last night at
six twenty nine, first pitch, come on game, took two
and a half hours flew out last night to give
to Minnesota today. Whether they'll play the Twins at four
thirty pm local time hour time not.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Even wow, four pm local times our time in La
our time, So two hours, seven seven thirty out there. Yeah. Still,
but they're playing basically the same day that they land.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Correct, Oh yeah, and getting there in the middle of
the night. Yeah, so they they will have played a game.
Trust me, those guys are not sleeping on that plane either. No,
you can't hear a game. You can't You're you're adrenaline
still going is still you know, your your your mind
is still racing. So it's taken you a minute. It's
going to take you a minute to come down from
(44:08):
all of that adrenaline, you know, And unless everybody's loading
up on advill pms. I mean, it's just it's it's
it's crazy to think that they would subject their team
to something like that. Look at it like this, basing
it on our time, Pacific Coast time. They played at
six twenty nine yesterday, so between six twenty nine and
(44:34):
four o'clock this afternoon, because we're basing it on our
time here, between six twenty nine and four o'clock this afternoon,
they played a game, got on a plane, flew to Minneapolis,
arrived in the middle of the night, tried to go
to sleep, get up, and will play another game less
(44:56):
than twenty.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Four hours later.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
That would be like they played at six o'clock last
night in Anaheim, and tonight they played at four o'clock
in Anaheim. But they didn't have to fly anywhere.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Now, if there was if they didn't have to fly anywhere,
you say, no big deal. That's what they do all
the time. You know, it's play one day and then
they come back and play the next day. They don't
even really do that, you know, night game, day game.
It doesn't happen very often, but they would never do
it back to back.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
And here we are.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You got the Angels flying in again, playing the same
day that they land. And like I said, it's very
difficult to sleep after a game, at least fall asleep,
not to mention having to get on a plane and
travel with that flight with three and a half four
hours to Minneapolis, yep, three on that plane where you
know you're you got little aches and whatever from the
(45:55):
game you just played, and you want to stretch out
and relax and why down on your bed, But no,
you're on a flight and so things are gonna swell
up and all. Yeah, it's just bad not to give
them a day to recover after a uh after game,
but they got to go right back and play.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Kevin, bad bad, Come on, Kevin, Like you said, the
game last night was two and a half hours, right.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Two and a half hours, yes, and it was a
sixth start.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, so it's over at nine, right, okay? Thirty yeah, yeah,
eight thirty eighth.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, it's over at eight thirty. So from the
completion of the game at eight thirty, how long two
and a half hours, right till nine o'clock, nine o'clock
two and a half hour o'clock. Yeah, yeah, okay, nine
o'clock all right, So how far from nine o'clock the
game is over to when they get on the bus?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Is that another hour and a half.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
An hour, hour and a half for everybody to get showered,
get their bags back, get them thrown on the bus.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
And go.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
So let's say it's ten to thirty. Let's say it's
ten thirty. Now you have to drive to the airport.
What is that forty minutes? Manah flying out a yeah?
Five to the air you know, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, Okay,
it's ten forty five by time you take off. What
time is it eleven fifteen?
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Well, you get to the airport, Yeah, this is gonna
take you thirty to forty five minutes for everybody to
get loaded on and all that.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, so let's say you go to eleven fifteen. It's
three hours. It's three hours, so that would be what
two o'clock in the morning our time when you land. Yeah,
it'd be two o'clock in the morning. Now when you
take off, when you land, you go to eleven thirty.
Oh oh, oh, got you got, you got you go
to eleven thirty. It's three hours. You get there two
(47:34):
thirty in the morning. Well you understand, you've just thirty
you get there two thirty hard times time. Yeah, it's
four to thirty in the morning there. Yeah, so now
you get to the hotel and the sun's coming off.
Now it's time to go to sleep. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah,
it's the little things. It's and then when they think
(47:56):
they play when the next game, it's it's four o'clock
our time, four o'clock our time, right, Well.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
That's six it's it's four to thirty, so six thirty
local time. In Minnesota, it will be four to thirty
our time.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Right, so four thirty our time.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
But you got to remember they got to be at
the stadium but two hours before the game starts, right,
and some guys get there earlier than that, so they're
there to thirty our time.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Think about it again. I started by saying, what distinguishes
one organization from the other. It's the little things. Well,
the Lakers deal with all of the little things. Tonight,
game three of their playoff series against the Timberwolves. We'll
go to Minneapolis and join dan Wiki next
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