April 28, 2025 • 34 mins
David Vassegh hops on as the Dodgers get ready for a 3 game home series vs the Marlins. Can the Lakers come back from a 3-1 deficit to beat the T-Wolves? Can the Clippers take control of their series with Denver and win Game 5 tomorrow? We talk about the son of Falcons assistant coach, Jeff Ulbrich, prank calling Sheduer Sanders (and reportedly others).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh yes, and we do keep it moving on a Monday,
Roddy Pete Adam Austin in for Fred Rogan. It's been
a busy weekend of sports in every single sport when
you think about it. But let's get back to the
Dodgers and bring our man on, who is dialed in
with baseball and the Dodgers more so than anybody in
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the history of sports. Our man, David bat Say, DV
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey guys, Yeah, just got to Dodger Stadium as the
Dodgers are getting said to close out the six game
homestand with three games against the Marlins, and they will
see former Cy Young Award winner Sandy Alcntra. He's pitching
in tomorrow night's game against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, yeah, Dave. And we've seen when the Dodgers faced
somebody liked that a big time pitcher, Paul Skins. The
other night he mentioned al Contra. They've struggled a little
bit offensively against some of the aces from the other squads.
Give me, Dave, just give me your take on the
season so far. In the state of the Dodgers. I
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know a lot of people like look up and say, oh,
the Giants are leading the division, but it's early. The
Dodgers have, you know, they they're kind of weathering the
storm where they're not even playing, you know, as good
as they can play right now. But what's your assessment
of the season so far?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you know, I was just talking to the legendary
columnist in Los Angeles Sports, Doug Crecorian, and he asked me,
what's wrong with your team? And I said, what's wrong
with the team. That's what everybody's asking. It's not perfect,
but the Dodgers are still nine games over five hundred.
I think people fail to realize how good the Dodgers
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record is. They're eighteen and ten and they're just percentage
points behind the Giants for the lead in the NL West.
So there's not a lot wrong with the Dodgers, And
I guess that's what's scary for the rest of the league.
They've done this without Blake Snell. They've done this without
Mookie Betts, Shoe a Otani and Freddie Freeman really hitting
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their stride. They've done this with Max Munsey giving no
production at third base. They've done this without Michael Conforto
doing much of anything. So, you know, yeah, I guess
you could pick apart what's going on, and it's not perfect.
But with all that being said, the Dodgers are still
eighteen and ten.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
David, They're gonna have to do this without Tyler Glass
now now too, is he going to have that imaging done?
And what did you make of him postgame talking about
his subconscious It just seems like it's so much in
his head right now, with maybe overcompensating for the elbow
and now the shoulders hurting.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, it was strange to hear what he was saying
after the game yesterday. And the biggest thing is, no
matter how good you are, it doesn't matter if you're
not available. And Tyler Glass now has had a history
of not being available, and he's put the Dodgers in
bad spots three times this year where they've had to
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go to the bullpen for a variety of reasons, whether
it was the rain in Philadelphia, lower Lay Crampson, Texas,
or just not feeling right yesterday. That has put the
Dodgers not in a predicament for his starts, but for
the subsequent games that come after him, like they're going
to have to be tonight, tomorrow and on Wednesday. They
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are going to get Tony Gonsolin back on Wednesday, But
where did they go tomorrow? And how much onus is
on Dustin May now to give that bullpen a respite
after they had to cover eight innings yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Dave. You
got Tony Gotslin making his first start back with the
Dodgers on Wednesday, and then Dustin May coming back, you
know from his injuries, and you know, are they going
to have to lean on those guys now more or
is Tony Gotslin going to be more of the in
the plans now that Tyler Glass now may be down
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for a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, Tony Donslan was always in the plans, Rodney. He
actually was supposed to be the Dodgers' fifth starter if
it wasn't for a lower back injury in the weight
room during spring training. He was going to be in
the starting rotation. So he's been in the Dodgers' plans
for the first half of the season all along. Remember
last year during the postseason, he was the guy that
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was participating in simulated games to get ready for the NLDS.
So he has not been a rehab pitcher for a
long time, but it was unfortunate he had that lower
back injury. But yeah, he's a part of this pitching
staff moving forward, and so is Dustin May.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Dave, last one for you here, Andy pie has big weekend,
goes ten to twelve. How much can you build off
of this? I think a couple of weeks ago people
were talking about him being sent down and everything, and
he's turned around.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, you might have been consumed with the Clippers choking
at him because Andy poe As was named co player
of the Week with Jiguanio Suarez. Pa has had ten
hits over the weekend against the Pirates while the Clippers
were failing to box out Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Look, Dave, I said, you went ten of twelve. What
do you want for me? I'm giving him his love here.
Do you think I'm not upset about the aeric Gordon Doug, Yeah,
it's on my mind a lot. I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I know, I know you're consumed. I know you're consumed
with the Clippers being the Clippers. I'm just trying to
let you know what's going on outside of your bubblet.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Hey, at least it is a two series, unlike your
Lakers right now.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, uh yeah, you better watch it, Dave. Who do
you got on the show tonight? Man?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh, we're going to catch up with the best teammate
te Oscar Hernandez on the pregame show. I'm actually uh
filling in for Kirsten Watson on the sidelines for the
next four games, So it's going to be a pregame
postgame simulcast with sports Net LA and AM five to
seventy LA Sports gets.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You gotta put on the sport code for the next
four days. Dave, look at you man doing your thing.
I appreciate it. Thanks for us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right on, Hey, Rodney, I love coming on with you,
even when you got your Clipper sidekick on with you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Thanks dv appreciated man. Enjoy the game, and uh, we've
been looking forward to seeing you man doing your thing
on the on the sidelines with taking over for Curstens.
Right now, man, enjoy yourself. Where's something nice?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Okay, I'll try, Rodney. I got one or two things
in my closet. I'll try to use those right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
On, brother, Right on, there you go, oh man. David
Bassey Man dialed in with the Dodgers. Man. You asked this. Uh,
you know Adam pa haz lighting it up and and
people were talking about him going down not too long ago. Uh.
But you got a guy like Michael Conforto who's struggling
right now. They signed him, they brought him in. He's
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playing left field, he's been there on the regular. He's struggling.
Max Munsey is just continue to struggle. I know he
got a couple of hits over the weekend, but still struggling.
Is yet I believe, yet to hit a home run,
which is what they need him in the lineup for.
At what point do you start moving guys around and
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starting giving other guys more of an opportunity like a
ki Ky Hernandez and you know who plays kind of
sparingly has played you know, first base for Freddy when
he's been out or played different different spots in the lineup.
What point do you give him more of a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's funny to me because you know, Chris Taylor, I
thought this early in the Clippers series, just to tie
it into something Clippers, because that's all I am to
David Vasse here, So I got to make every analogy
in parallel batch to the Clippers. But you know, Kawhi
Leonard was so good early in the series. It gave
Norman pal a chance to work himself out of a slump.
And so with the Dodgers their lineup so good, and
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with Freddie having five hits over the weekend, oh Tani
having five hits over the weekend, Mookie only had one,
Teo had four, but two of them were home runs,
and Kik had that three run bomb on Saturday. It's
like they have an embarrassment of riches, but they also
have enough guys to keep you afloat that if somebody
is slumping, they have a chance to get out of it.
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And I think that's what happened with Andy Paz. He
got more opportunities because the Dodgers are so good, they're
going to score runs anyways. And I think that can
be the same thing with Michael Confordo because they're gonna
need him down the line. He's a lefty bat. He
didn't play yesterday because they were going up against the
left He starter with the Pirates. But this Dodgers team
has that built in buffer for you where you can
insulate guys. Okay, they're struggling, but everybody around him is hitting,
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so we'll give him a little bit more time, a
little bit longer of a leash to figure it out.
I think that's the big difference with this team.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, and they they've got
so many guys, but you also want to keep guys
fresh and healthy. And if there's one guy that's struggling,
which is the perplexing thing right now, is you know,
is Max Muntzi going right? Because it's been about two
years now, almost a year and a half now, where
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he has kind of lost his way. And this is
a guy that went three straight years hitting thirty plus
home runs and they're not getting that kind of production
out of him. And you've got guys that you know
they can fill into that situation. Do they make a
change or do they? But I guess to your point,
they have the luxury of kind of letting guys fight
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through their slumps or work through their slumps because they're
so talented up and down the lineup that Max months
they hitting one to seventy seven is not gonna bother you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean, when they signed Chris Taylor to that new contract,
they didn't think he was going to play once a week,
you know, And they're living anyways. And I feel like
we've been through this before over the last couple of
years with Max Munsey, where he goes through stretches like
this and then figures it out eventually. But there is
something different that he's dealing with this year Rodney, and
some are simply calling it the Rodney piece curves from Japan.
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They're saying that, oh, there you go, you're living rent
free in his head right now. I don't know you
guys gonna you guys gonna work something out. So month
see at the plate is doing it again if he's
hitting those bombs because I'm playing of course, your glove
was behind his. Was the right play, and damn it.
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I was proud when I saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I did. I did play third base, you know, So
maybe that in his head, like you know.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't have a surprise Rodney piece like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
A short term contract, so you know, maybe that's in
his head a little bit. But no, you know, I'm
gonna let him know I'm not coming out of retirement
or anything like that. So Mexicus rode, all right, Oh no.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
No, no, he'll figure it out. These guys are so
talented they can get by with multiple starting pitchers down.
They can get by with guys and slumps. It's really
about a race in the NL West. But also, as
I mentioned earlier, this is a race between the Dodgers
and themselves in history. That's what they're chasing here. So yes,
we're gonna hold them to a high standard, but also
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knowing that, look, it's early, it's late April. They have
plenty of time to figure this out, and they have
the talent to get them there eventually when it comes
down to crunch time late in August and September.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes, they do. They're gonna be in the mix, just hovering.
If they're not blowing away the West, They're just gonna
always be right there. The Giants and the Padres and
the Diamondbacks, they have all the pressure on them to
kind of stay in the mix. The Dodgers will definitely
be there all right. On the side, I want to
get back into the Clippers Lakers. Who's got a better
shot to kind of continue there their run to the championship.
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I know the Lakers are down three to one. The
Clippers got to tie to continue there their run to
the championship. I know the Lakers are down three to one.
The Clippers got it tie to two to two, but man,
it would be great to see them both go deep
in these playoffs. Let's check it out, AM five to
seventy LA Sports. Oh yes, double a in for Fred
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Rogan on a Monday, a beautiful Monday. It's that time
of year where the sun shines and people get jealous
on the East Coast because they're still dealing with cold weather.
They don't care. We don't care. We don't care, Adam Auslin, Adam.
Since we started with the Lakers, we're gonna start with
the Clippers right here before we uh, you know, start
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to wind this whole thing down to two, kind of
let one get away at home, which would have been
a great deal to kind of go up three to
one at at at your own place at the end
to it, going back to Denver Tide. You know, they
still feel like you know, once you you've been a
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champion in the recent history and the last three years,
they're gonna still feel like they got a shot. So
the crowd's going to be into it. How do you
how do you feel the Clippers respond to losing a
close game like that?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You better start faster, you're getting blown out Honestly, I
think that crowd there is going to be on top
of them, and they do have that championship pedigree.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Rodney.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's less than two years ago they won the championship.
I know over the last two weeks they fired their
head coach and their GM and they were supposed to
be in disarray and David Adaman's a rookie head coach. Well,
they've responded because the core four that were there for
the championship are still there. You got Joki, who's the
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best player in the game. He is he is the
best player in the game. It's definitive. When you have
three of the last four MVPs, you're likely going to
be runner up this year and a finals MVP over
the last five years. Have you got all that hardware?
I think you're the best player in the game. So
they got plenty of reasons to feel confident. It's a
best out of three and they got home court advantage.
So if the Clippers don't start fast in that ballgame,
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I'm going to be concerned pretty early there, especially if
Russ is back and he gets the crowd into it,
and if Michael Porter Junior is available, They're gonna have
some energy and some juice to start that ballgame, and
the Clippers better be ready.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I think it can go. I mean, it doesn't matter.
They're going to be fired up one way or another.
Right If Michael Porter Junior is not able to go,
they find a way to do or they decide to
suspend him, there's going to be an anger in that
crowd and an anger with that team because they're going
to feel like they were slighted, even though the letter
of the law and the rule says that he should
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be suspended, but they're going to feel like the world
is against them. So they're going to be fired up
if he does play. They're going to be fired up
because they feel like they they now they're at full
strength against the against the Clippers, and they stole one
in LA. So they better come out ready to play,
like you said, because it's when you're on the road
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and you get behind, it's not like they can you know,
like you know, and into it in the last game
where they're down and they came back twenty two and
came back and tied the game up and made it
close and almost won it and should have won it.
They're on the road and the chances of coming back
on the road like that from a deep deficit is very,
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very difficult. So they better come out ready to play,
and hopefully they do and knock them in the mouth
and not let not let Denver get any kind of
I want to say, hope, but just kind of get
on any kind of runs where they're up double digits
and they're just kind of feeling a little bit. They
got to stop all of that in this game at them.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh, they got to have Kawhi I think, play like
he did in Game two. I'm not asking a fifteen
of nineteen shooting to get to his thirty nine points.
That was just unbelievable, But give me twelve of twenty shooting.
Can we do that? Kawhi Leonard is still the best
player on their team, and he has showed that he
can outduel Nikola jokicch and be the best player in
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this series at times. So get back to doing what
you do best. Kawhi Leonard, Iso God gets to the
mid range and he looks through defenders when they have
a hand uff. He's got that Superman X ray vision.
It doesn't matter, it doesn't affect Kawhi Leonard. He's robotic anyways.
So it's just different. When he's playing at that high
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of a level, they're gonna need him, and they're also
gonna have to overcome something that I think goes underrated
and roder you can speak to this, but the thin
air matters.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I mean, yeah, when the.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Denver Nuggets, where's the Olympic training facilities in Colorado? For
a reason?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Absolute in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Why you boxers always go there to train before fights
because it matters cyclists everybody does it. And even when
Denver sucked over the years, they still had a good
home court record because of the advantage there. And the
Clippers in Game one did not adjust to it very well.
They got gassed by the end of it and lost
in overtime. So that's something else they got to overcome.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, I know J d Reddick ain't playing the
same guys in the second half in Denver as he
did in Minnesota. Guarantee you just going out on the stretch. Yeah,
they all will, all right, so now and then switch
over to the Lakers down three to one coming back home.
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You know the crypt is gonna be ready for them
to go. But it's not so much this game. I
think they they probably blow Minnesota out. I mean that's
a you know, it's kind of what happens, right Minnesota
has an emotional, big win at home, they come knowing
that they got they get to go back to Minnesota
to try to close it out. I think the Lakers
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win this one, but I'm interested in the fashion in
which they win. You know, it's got to be a
convincing win. It's got to be a win where they
get everybody involved, because they can't go the same route
that they did in the loss with playing only five
guys in the second half. Uh, they have to they
have to be efficient and they have to play well
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in order for them to feel confident going back to
Minnesota to try to get that win back there, because
they it's an uphill battle for them. Now, how do
you see that one going in Game five? Here at
at the crypt.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I got a couple numbers for you, and I think
this speaks to your theory that they could blow them out,
because I think if it's even Minnesota's leaving, they can't
get in a close game against them. If you look
at quarter by quarter in this series through the first
four games, who's had the advantage in quarters so when
the first quarter the Lakers are plus twenty four. They've
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outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves by twenty four points in the
first quarter of this series. In four games. Second quarter,
there are minus nineteen the Lakers there in the first half,
though they're still overall a plus five. The third quarter,
they've won four of them by three points. They're plus
three Rodney. In fourth quarters of this series so far,
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the Lakers are a minus thirty six. They have gotten
outscored by thirty six points in fourth quarters. They are
running out of gas. Lebron and Luca haven't been good enough,
and somebody else who deserves a little bit of lame.
I know he's third and pecking order, but I've touted him.
I've talked about what a good season he had. Maybe
the expectations are getting to him a little bit because
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they weren't there before. I'm talking about Austin Reeves. Yeah,
he's only averaging seventeen per game, and he is getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
On the other end, he is getting cooked, and he
has been a non factor, non factor in this series
other than maybe you know, Game one, but you're right,
You're right. When they need somebody to take the pressure
off of Lebron and Luca. Now, look, he hit some shots,
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you know, in that first half of that game, but
down the stretch he was nowhere to be found. And
so Austin Reeves, as we've touted him to be the
third player and that big three with the Lakers kind
of you know, transforming themselves. Now they are a big
three with Austin Reeves, he's got to show up, and
he's got to show up big, because it's it's going
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to be those other guys, those others that really get
the Lakers past this hump. If they're going to salvage
this and win this series, it's not gonna be Lebron
and Luca. It's gonna be the others.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, And usually typically the others, the role players, the contributors,
the ancillary players, they're better at home. They're better in
those home games. So I'm expecting much more from Austin
Reeves because he had when you talk about that mental
fatigue and how it wears on you late in the
ball game when you're playing heavy minutes, he had an
inexplicably bad foul that turned into an.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
N yes, yes, how does you?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
How do you foul a guy?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That him. First, you don't if you foul him, you
don't let him score, right you you rape him. So
that word word.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Rake him across the arm, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Rake him across the arm, so he doesn't have he
has no chance of scoring, or you don't foul. And
he didn't hard foul him, so he missed it, but
he gave him an and one. Yeah, that was a
mentally and physically that was a big time mistake.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's how you get a turnover like you saw between
Lebron and Luca Late missed layups. Late guys didn't have
their leg that's the problem. But they also aren't playing
high IQ basketball out there, which is something. I mean,
Austin Reeves has been good in playoff situations before, but
this is the first time he's had real expectations because
he was so good the last three months heading in
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and people are expecting him to be good. I said,
people think this is a hot take, and it is,
but I said, I'd take him over Devin Booker right now.
I think that highly of Austin Reeves. I think he
has gotten to that point where if he was on
a bad team like Devin Booker was, I guess this year.
Phoenix had an awful year. He's getting twenty five a game.
He can score any which way you want at this point,
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but defensively he has been getting destroyed by Jalen McDaniels.
J McDaniels has picked him apart. And it's the same
thing that happened to him in that second round series
against Golden State that they won a couple of years
ago on their way to losing in the Western Conference
Finals with the Denver Nuggets. Austin's legs were gone after
that series because they kept hunting him out and making
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him have to defend. They look gone right now by
the end of games. So the Lakers have so many problems.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What do you do then, Adam? What do you do
when they're hunting. They're hunting not only Austin Reeves as
you just mentioned, but they're also hunting Luca, you know,
from that side. And now you've got at least two
guys that they're hunting. Defensively, now we're going to get
anything we want because these guys don't play defense. What
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do you do? If you're the Lakers? How do you
combat that?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You make a trade for more wings this offseason? Honestly,
I don't know if there's a fixed for it in series.
Rodney like, man up, get on your puppies and stay
in front of guys. Find a way. But that's easier
said than done because Minnesota has so many athletes in
so many ways they can beat its not just Anthony Edwards.
In this series you mentioned the others. Minnesota's getting theirs
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from the others. They're stepping up for them, but the
Calvary's not on the way for the Lakers. They got
nowhere to turn this is it either I don't know.
I wonder if he's going to start Drian Finney Smith
over Jackson Hayes in Game five and just forget Jackson
Hayes altogether because he didn't start him in the second
half obviously he only played four minutes his JJ just
done with him? Or does he realize, Okay, I can't
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do this again. I can't tax us out where even
if we win game five, we have no chance. We
have no legs in game six, and he has to
turn back to some guys that you know he wouldn't
look at coming off the bench in Game four, But
doesn't he have.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
To stay somewhat with Jackson Hayes, I mean you had him,
he used him down the stretch, he played, he played
okay for you down the stretch a little bit, and
he was, you know, kind of you felt like he
was growing into that role and and doing that. But
as you know, and you said it, playoffs are a
different animal, and they find the weakness and they they
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find it quick and they exploited and they've exploited him
in this series. But don't you got to find a
way to kind of get him, get him going, because
you don't want a guy like that that you kind
of had in your plans all of a sudden you
can't use him at all.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I agree with you if it was me. This is
how I look at it. Either Jackson Hayes figures it out,
or Goodwin turns into a player we can rely upon
for twelve minutes and gave Vincent becomes more playable and
Van Do becomes more playable, or else we're sunk anyways,
Like we either give these guys a chance to help
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us down three to one, or we're not gonna be
able to come back. Even if we do win game five,
We're eventually gonna run out of manpower. We're eventually gonna
run out of horses out there. I have to show
some faith in these other guys because we're gonna need
them if we're gonna come back in this series. It's
just not sustainable to play five or five and a
half guys per game. That's not going to be a
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winning formula. Down three to one, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We'll be back. Double A filling in. Absolutely great for
Fred Rogan. Always good to have him on Monday. We
will wrap it up, come back A five seventy l
A sports. Oh yes, it's been a great Monday, my man,
Double A. Always great to hang out with you at
double Ay. Bring the fire brother always always, I'm going to.
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beat a dead horse, because everybody's going to beat the
whole Shador Sanders thing. But the kid, right, the kid
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that did the prank call, who's the sun of Atlanta?
The Atlanta Falcon defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Jacks Little Jackson.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't even want to even know. I want to
throw his name O Brick, Yes, Jeff Obrick, Yeah, you
guys did it out throw the name out there, But
you know, I don't. I don't even know. I don't
even know what to I don't even know what to
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say about it because it's so disgusting and it is
so bothersome that. A first of all, this kid is
not he's not twelve. He's a twenty one year old
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kid and son of the defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons,
Jeff Obrick. And if you're you know, he obviously grew
up in the football world, which is why he's into
it like he is. His dad been a coach, I
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don't know how long, not familiar with his tenure as
a coach, but been in football for a long long time.
So as a kid growing up, you know, your dad's
involved in that, and dad is around players on a
regular basis, and there's a certain level of respect and
love that a coach has for his players and a
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kid because I was the son of a coach, right,
My dad was a coach when I was growing up.
He was in college at the University of Arizona. I
grew up in Arizona. As I got older and my
senior year in high school, he got a job with
the Kansas City Chiefs and he went on and coached
in the NFL for twenty years. And I just had
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a level first of all, respect for the NFL guys
and for college players, and then and there was a
there was just a level of I respect what these
guys want to do and what they are doing, and
eventually I'm going to be in those shoes at one point.
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And so I would never ever think about trying to
harm someone that I know watching this as a kid
that was a water boy, a ball boy, watching how
hard you know these guys work to not only make
it at the college level, but to fulfill their dream
of going to play the NFL. And for those that
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are not familiar with the story, this kid who was
the son of the Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich,
his twenty one year old son basically snuck in and
found his dad's folder or his book or his computer iPad,
whatever it was that had all of the draftees names
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and phone numbers in it, and he frank called Shador
Sanders on Friday night or Friday afternoon or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And imitated Mickey Loomis from the Saints as Mickey Lewis
is the defense as the general manager of the Saints,
and imitated him, called him, called Chaudeur directly and said
that we are going to take you with the next pick.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And filmed the whole thing. Adham. He filmed it and
basically led Schadur on to believe that the Saints were
going to take him, and then at the end said, oh,
you're gonna have to wait a few more minutes or
a few more rounds where we'll get back to you, basically,
and then laughed it off with his buddies in the background.
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It was I mean, I've heard and seen so many
cruel things done in in this world, and this you
know what we're dealing with right now, But that was
one of the most idiotic, cruel, insensitive, whatever you want
to call it. You just run them off things that
I've seen an individual do to another individual.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's pretty twisted, it's pretty you know. I guess it
happened to a couple other players too, they received from
some prank calls. But obviously Shaduro was the guy sliding
down the draft and that was the big story. And
to try to take away his moment, the biggest moment
of his life, was some fake information there. It's cruel,
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it's twisted, it's low class. He's twenty one. It's pretty
bizarre to have something like that happen now. I will
say full disclosure. I used to make some prank calls
back in my day and maybe to this station at times,
and I was a little punk like that. I gotta
be honest. I gotta be honest. I don't think I
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took away anyone's moment just because I was prank calling
Steve Hartman and the loose Cannons back in the day.
I don't think it affected anyone like it would effect
should Sanders taking that call at that's that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
He cared about. You prank calling those guys ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
They don't remember. It wasn't life altering. This moment for
Sanders was so to do that. What's interesting is they're
investigating it the NFL because his dad's involved. Now, there's
nothing criminal about a prank call, but if they think
his dad might have handed him the number or they
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have to look into it. So more is going to
come out with this. But ultimately you're twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's really all the investigations is about. From that standpoint
is if the dad was involved, right was it was?
Was the dad involved in allowing his son to get
the number? Or did he? Was he complicit in it
and say, oh, yeah, do this kind of cool whatever?
But I can't imagine the dad, knowing that he's in
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the business, would do something like this and understand that
this is, you know, someone's dream from early early stage
in their life, but dreamed to play in the NFL
and to do that the dad absolutely knows how sensitive
and how important that is. My question is what do
you do now if you're the Atlanta Falcons or I
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know the NFL is investigated, but if you're an Atlanta Falcons,
what do you do? Because I got to tell you,
if I'm on that team and I'm a player on
that team and I know that you're my defensive coordinator
and your son did this. I'm looking at you sideways
for a long time and I'm wondering, what are you
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going to do about it?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Are you going to respond it?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
At least sounds like he called Chadur and Shadour took
his call, and that speaks to his character, I would say,
and accepted his apology about it, and even on the
video you can see it kind of brushes it off.
It didn't. He didn't let it get to him. I
would say, that's the big takeaway on this. If he's
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going to have a successful NFL career, you're gonna have
to put up with a lot of crap. People are
gonna talk a lot about you, and you have to
just be tef long at times and not let him stick.
So I do think there is some silver lining here
to see that. Sanders was just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, yeah, he comes up, he comes out on, you know,
looking great in this situation on on so many levels
of just first of all, how he handled, you know,
slipping in the draft and say thank you Browns for
drafting me, giving me opportunity. The way he handled all
of that has been great. And even with the apology,
which was clearly written by the Falcon's pr staff from
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the kid and and and accepting that apology. You know
it's it's big of schadure. But again, if I'm in
that locker room in Atlanta, I don't know how I
feel and how I respond to that coach. Like you said,
maybe the kid needs to know, and maybe the coach
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needs to get suspended. I want to they fired. Maybe
he gets suspended so the kids know that there's consequences
not only to you but to the whole family when
you do something stupid like this.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You got to keep those numbers private. It's like the
nuclear codes.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You can't let anybody get their hands on those. You
gotta be better.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But he's twenty one and the kids you know better.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He should absolutely.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Adam, thank you, brother, appreciate you. Always, always a pleasure
hanging out with you man on a full three hour
show on a Monday, when we had so much to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I love you. You know that you're my favorite and you've
always had my back, So thanks for having me on
doing the full three hours. It was a great time.
K Fig love you as well. Ronnie, love you guys.
It was great to be here. Let's do it again. Tomorrow.
Oh no, Fred's back. I'm sorry to be here.
Oh yes, and we do keep it moving on a Monday,
Roddy Pete Adam Austin in for Fred Rogan. It's been
a busy weekend of sports in every single sport when
you think about it. But let's get back to the
Dodgers and bring our man on, who is dialed in
with baseball and the Dodgers more so than anybody in
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the history of sports. Our man, David bat Say, DV
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey guys, Yeah, just got to Dodger Stadium as the
Dodgers are getting said to close out the six game
homestand with three games against the Marlins, and they will
see former Cy Young Award winner Sandy Alcntra. He's pitching
in tomorrow night's game against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, yeah, Dave. And we've seen when the Dodgers faced
somebody liked that a big time pitcher, Paul Skins. The
other night he mentioned al Contra. They've struggled a little
bit offensively against some of the aces from the other squads.
Give me, Dave, just give me your take on the
season so far. In the state of the Dodgers. I
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know a lot of people like look up and say, oh,
the Giants are leading the division, but it's early. The
Dodgers have, you know, they they're kind of weathering the
storm where they're not even playing, you know, as good
as they can play right now. But what's your assessment
of the season so far?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you know, I was just talking to the legendary
columnist in Los Angeles Sports, Doug Crecorian, and he asked me,
what's wrong with your team? And I said, what's wrong
with the team. That's what everybody's asking. It's not perfect,
but the Dodgers are still nine games over five hundred.
I think people fail to realize how good the Dodgers
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record is. They're eighteen and ten and they're just percentage
points behind the Giants for the lead in the NL West.
So there's not a lot wrong with the Dodgers, And
I guess that's what's scary for the rest of the league.
They've done this without Blake Snell. They've done this without
Mookie Betts, Shoe a Otani and Freddie Freeman really hitting
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their stride. They've done this with Max Munsey giving no
production at third base. They've done this without Michael Conforto
doing much of anything. So, you know, yeah, I guess
you could pick apart what's going on, and it's not perfect.
But with all that being said, the Dodgers are still
eighteen and ten.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
David, They're gonna have to do this without Tyler Glass
now now too, is he going to have that imaging done?
And what did you make of him postgame talking about
his subconscious It just seems like it's so much in
his head right now, with maybe overcompensating for the elbow
and now the shoulders hurting.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, it was strange to hear what he was saying
after the game yesterday. And the biggest thing is, no
matter how good you are, it doesn't matter if you're
not available. And Tyler Glass now has had a history
of not being available, and he's put the Dodgers in
bad spots three times this year where they've had to
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go to the bullpen for a variety of reasons, whether
it was the rain in Philadelphia, lower Lay Crampson, Texas,
or just not feeling right yesterday. That has put the
Dodgers not in a predicament for his starts, but for
the subsequent games that come after him, like they're going
to have to be tonight, tomorrow and on Wednesday. They
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are going to get Tony Gonsolin back on Wednesday, But
where did they go tomorrow? And how much onus is
on Dustin May now to give that bullpen a respite
after they had to cover eight innings yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Dave. You
got Tony Gotslin making his first start back with the
Dodgers on Wednesday, and then Dustin May coming back, you
know from his injuries, and you know, are they going
to have to lean on those guys now more or
is Tony Gotslin going to be more of the in
the plans now that Tyler Glass now may be down
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for a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, Tony Donslan was always in the plans, Rodney. He
actually was supposed to be the Dodgers' fifth starter if
it wasn't for a lower back injury in the weight
room during spring training. He was going to be in
the starting rotation. So he's been in the Dodgers' plans
for the first half of the season all along. Remember
last year during the postseason, he was the guy that
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was participating in simulated games to get ready for the NLDS.
So he has not been a rehab pitcher for a
long time, but it was unfortunate he had that lower
back injury. But yeah, he's a part of this pitching
staff moving forward, and so is Dustin May.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Dave, last one for you here, Andy pie has big weekend,
goes ten to twelve. How much can you build off
of this? I think a couple of weeks ago people
were talking about him being sent down and everything, and
he's turned around.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, you might have been consumed with the Clippers choking
at him because Andy poe As was named co player
of the Week with Jiguanio Suarez. Pa has had ten
hits over the weekend against the Pirates while the Clippers
were failing to box out Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Look, Dave, I said, you went ten of twelve. What
do you want for me? I'm giving him his love here.
Do you think I'm not upset about the aeric Gordon Doug, Yeah,
it's on my mind a lot. I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I know, I know you're consumed. I know you're consumed
with the Clippers being the Clippers. I'm just trying to
let you know what's going on outside of your bubblet.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Hey, at least it is a two series, unlike your
Lakers right now.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, uh yeah, you better watch it, Dave. Who do
you got on the show tonight? Man?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh, we're going to catch up with the best teammate
te Oscar Hernandez on the pregame show. I'm actually uh
filling in for Kirsten Watson on the sidelines for the
next four games, So it's going to be a pregame
postgame simulcast with sports Net LA and AM five to
seventy LA Sports gets.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You gotta put on the sport code for the next
four days. Dave, look at you man doing your thing.
I appreciate it. Thanks for us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right on, Hey, Rodney, I love coming on with you,
even when you got your Clipper sidekick on with you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Thanks dv appreciated man. Enjoy the game, and uh, we've
been looking forward to seeing you man doing your thing
on the on the sidelines with taking over for Curstens.
Right now, man, enjoy yourself. Where's something nice?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Okay, I'll try, Rodney. I got one or two things
in my closet. I'll try to use those right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
On, brother, Right on, there you go, oh man. David
Bassey Man dialed in with the Dodgers. Man. You asked this. Uh,
you know Adam pa haz lighting it up and and
people were talking about him going down not too long ago. Uh.
But you got a guy like Michael Conforto who's struggling
right now. They signed him, they brought him in. He's
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playing left field, he's been there on the regular. He's struggling.
Max Munsey is just continue to struggle. I know he
got a couple of hits over the weekend, but still struggling.
Is yet I believe, yet to hit a home run,
which is what they need him in the lineup for.
At what point do you start moving guys around and
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starting giving other guys more of an opportunity like a
ki Ky Hernandez and you know who plays kind of
sparingly has played you know, first base for Freddy when
he's been out or played different different spots in the lineup.
What point do you give him more of a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's funny to me because you know, Chris Taylor, I
thought this early in the Clippers series, just to tie
it into something Clippers, because that's all I am to
David Vasse here, So I got to make every analogy
in parallel batch to the Clippers. But you know, Kawhi
Leonard was so good early in the series. It gave
Norman pal a chance to work himself out of a slump.
And so with the Dodgers their lineup so good, and
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with Freddie having five hits over the weekend, oh Tani
having five hits over the weekend, Mookie only had one,
Teo had four, but two of them were home runs,
and Kik had that three run bomb on Saturday. It's
like they have an embarrassment of riches, but they also
have enough guys to keep you afloat that if somebody
is slumping, they have a chance to get out of it.
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And I think that's what happened with Andy Paz. He
got more opportunities because the Dodgers are so good, they're
going to score runs anyways. And I think that can
be the same thing with Michael Confordo because they're gonna
need him down the line. He's a lefty bat. He
didn't play yesterday because they were going up against the
left He starter with the Pirates. But this Dodgers team
has that built in buffer for you where you can
insulate guys. Okay, they're struggling, but everybody around him is hitting,
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so we'll give him a little bit more time, a
little bit longer of a leash to figure it out.
I think that's the big difference with this team.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, and they they've got
so many guys, but you also want to keep guys
fresh and healthy. And if there's one guy that's struggling,
which is the perplexing thing right now, is you know,
is Max Muntzi going right? Because it's been about two
years now, almost a year and a half now, where
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he has kind of lost his way. And this is
a guy that went three straight years hitting thirty plus
home runs and they're not getting that kind of production
out of him. And you've got guys that you know
they can fill into that situation. Do they make a
change or do they? But I guess to your point,
they have the luxury of kind of letting guys fight
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through their slumps or work through their slumps because they're
so talented up and down the lineup that Max months
they hitting one to seventy seven is not gonna bother you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean, when they signed Chris Taylor to that new contract,
they didn't think he was going to play once a week,
you know, And they're living anyways. And I feel like
we've been through this before over the last couple of
years with Max Munsey, where he goes through stretches like
this and then figures it out eventually. But there is
something different that he's dealing with this year Rodney, and
some are simply calling it the Rodney piece curves from Japan.
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They're saying that, oh, there you go, you're living rent
free in his head right now. I don't know you
guys gonna you guys gonna work something out. So month
see at the plate is doing it again if he's
hitting those bombs because I'm playing of course, your glove
was behind his. Was the right play, and damn it.
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I was proud when I saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I did. I did play third base, you know, So
maybe that in his head, like you know.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't have a surprise Rodney piece like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
A short term contract, so you know, maybe that's in
his head a little bit. But no, you know, I'm
gonna let him know I'm not coming out of retirement
or anything like that. So Mexicus rode, all right, Oh no.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
No, no, he'll figure it out. These guys are so
talented they can get by with multiple starting pitchers down.
They can get by with guys and slumps. It's really
about a race in the NL West. But also, as
I mentioned earlier, this is a race between the Dodgers
and themselves in history. That's what they're chasing here. So yes,
we're gonna hold them to a high standard, but also
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knowing that, look, it's early, it's late April. They have
plenty of time to figure this out, and they have
the talent to get them there eventually when it comes
down to crunch time late in August and September.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes, they do. They're gonna be in the mix, just hovering.
If they're not blowing away the West, They're just gonna
always be right there. The Giants and the Padres and
the Diamondbacks, they have all the pressure on them to
kind of stay in the mix. The Dodgers will definitely
be there all right. On the side, I want to
get back into the Clippers Lakers. Who's got a better
shot to kind of continue there their run to the championship.
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I know the Lakers are down three to one. The
Clippers got to tie to continue there their run to
the championship. I know the Lakers are down three to one.
The Clippers got it tie to two to two, but man,
it would be great to see them both go deep
in these playoffs. Let's check it out, AM five to
seventy LA Sports. Oh yes, double a in for Fred
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Rogan on a Monday, a beautiful Monday. It's that time
of year where the sun shines and people get jealous
on the East Coast because they're still dealing with cold weather.
They don't care. We don't care. We don't care, Adam Auslin, Adam.
Since we started with the Lakers, we're gonna start with
the Clippers right here before we uh, you know, start
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to wind this whole thing down to two, kind of
let one get away at home, which would have been
a great deal to kind of go up three to
one at at at your own place at the end
to it, going back to Denver Tide. You know, they
still feel like you know, once you you've been a
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champion in the recent history and the last three years,
they're gonna still feel like they got a shot. So
the crowd's going to be into it. How do you
how do you feel the Clippers respond to losing a
close game like that?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You better start faster, you're getting blown out Honestly, I
think that crowd there is going to be on top
of them, and they do have that championship pedigree.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Rodney.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's less than two years ago they won the championship.
I know over the last two weeks they fired their
head coach and their GM and they were supposed to
be in disarray and David Adaman's a rookie head coach. Well,
they've responded because the core four that were there for
the championship are still there. You got Joki, who's the
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best player in the game. He is he is the
best player in the game. It's definitive. When you have
three of the last four MVPs, you're likely going to
be runner up this year and a finals MVP over
the last five years. Have you got all that hardware?
I think you're the best player in the game. So
they got plenty of reasons to feel confident. It's a
best out of three and they got home court advantage.
So if the Clippers don't start fast in that ballgame,
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I'm going to be concerned pretty early there, especially if
Russ is back and he gets the crowd into it,
and if Michael Porter Junior is available, They're gonna have
some energy and some juice to start that ballgame, and
the Clippers better be ready.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I think it can go. I mean, it doesn't matter.
They're going to be fired up one way or another.
Right If Michael Porter Junior is not able to go,
they find a way to do or they decide to
suspend him, there's going to be an anger in that
crowd and an anger with that team because they're going
to feel like they were slighted, even though the letter
of the law and the rule says that he should
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be suspended, but they're going to feel like the world
is against them. So they're going to be fired up
if he does play. They're going to be fired up
because they feel like they they now they're at full
strength against the against the Clippers, and they stole one
in LA. So they better come out ready to play,
like you said, because it's when you're on the road
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and you get behind, it's not like they can you know,
like you know, and into it in the last game
where they're down and they came back twenty two and
came back and tied the game up and made it
close and almost won it and should have won it.
They're on the road and the chances of coming back
on the road like that from a deep deficit is very,
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very difficult. So they better come out ready to play,
and hopefully they do and knock them in the mouth
and not let not let Denver get any kind of
I want to say, hope, but just kind of get
on any kind of runs where they're up double digits
and they're just kind of feeling a little bit. They
got to stop all of that in this game at them.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh, they got to have Kawhi I think, play like
he did in Game two. I'm not asking a fifteen
of nineteen shooting to get to his thirty nine points.
That was just unbelievable, But give me twelve of twenty shooting.
Can we do that? Kawhi Leonard is still the best
player on their team, and he has showed that he
can outduel Nikola jokicch and be the best player in
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this series at times. So get back to doing what
you do best. Kawhi Leonard, Iso God gets to the
mid range and he looks through defenders when they have
a hand uff. He's got that Superman X ray vision.
It doesn't matter, it doesn't affect Kawhi Leonard. He's robotic anyways.
So it's just different. When he's playing at that high
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of a level, they're gonna need him, and they're also
gonna have to overcome something that I think goes underrated
and roder you can speak to this, but the thin
air matters.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I mean, yeah, when the.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Denver Nuggets, where's the Olympic training facilities in Colorado? For
a reason?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Absolute in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Why you boxers always go there to train before fights
because it matters cyclists everybody does it. And even when
Denver sucked over the years, they still had a good
home court record because of the advantage there. And the
Clippers in Game one did not adjust to it very well.
They got gassed by the end of it and lost
in overtime. So that's something else they got to overcome.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, I know J d Reddick ain't playing the
same guys in the second half in Denver as he
did in Minnesota. Guarantee you just going out on the stretch. Yeah,
they all will, all right, so now and then switch
over to the Lakers down three to one coming back home.
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You know the crypt is gonna be ready for them
to go. But it's not so much this game. I
think they they probably blow Minnesota out. I mean that's
a you know, it's kind of what happens, right Minnesota
has an emotional, big win at home, they come knowing
that they got they get to go back to Minnesota
to try to close it out. I think the Lakers
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win this one, but I'm interested in the fashion in
which they win. You know, it's got to be a
convincing win. It's got to be a win where they
get everybody involved, because they can't go the same route
that they did in the loss with playing only five
guys in the second half. Uh, they have to they
have to be efficient and they have to play well
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in order for them to feel confident going back to
Minnesota to try to get that win back there, because
they it's an uphill battle for them. Now, how do
you see that one going in Game five? Here at
at the crypt.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I got a couple numbers for you, and I think
this speaks to your theory that they could blow them out,
because I think if it's even Minnesota's leaving, they can't
get in a close game against them. If you look
at quarter by quarter in this series through the first
four games, who's had the advantage in quarters so when
the first quarter the Lakers are plus twenty four. They've
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outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves by twenty four points in the
first quarter of this series. In four games. Second quarter,
there are minus nineteen the Lakers there in the first half,
though they're still overall a plus five. The third quarter,
they've won four of them by three points. They're plus
three Rodney. In fourth quarters of this series so far,
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the Lakers are a minus thirty six. They have gotten
outscored by thirty six points in fourth quarters. They are
running out of gas. Lebron and Luca haven't been good enough,
and somebody else who deserves a little bit of lame.
I know he's third and pecking order, but I've touted him.
I've talked about what a good season he had. Maybe
the expectations are getting to him a little bit because
(19:02):
they weren't there before. I'm talking about Austin Reeves. Yeah,
he's only averaging seventeen per game, and he is getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
On the other end, he is getting cooked, and he
has been a non factor, non factor in this series
other than maybe you know, Game one, but you're right,
You're right. When they need somebody to take the pressure
off of Lebron and Luca. Now, look, he hit some shots,
(19:30):
you know, in that first half of that game, but
down the stretch he was nowhere to be found. And
so Austin Reeves, as we've touted him to be the
third player and that big three with the Lakers kind
of you know, transforming themselves. Now they are a big
three with Austin Reeves, he's got to show up, and
he's got to show up big, because it's it's going
(19:52):
to be those other guys, those others that really get
the Lakers past this hump. If they're going to salvage
this and win this series, it's not gonna be Lebron
and Luca. It's gonna be the others.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, And usually typically the others, the role players, the contributors,
the ancillary players, they're better at home. They're better in
those home games. So I'm expecting much more from Austin
Reeves because he had when you talk about that mental
fatigue and how it wears on you late in the
ball game when you're playing heavy minutes, he had an
inexplicably bad foul that turned into an.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
N yes, yes, how does you?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
How do you foul a guy?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That him. First, you don't if you foul him, you
don't let him score, right you you rape him. So
that word word.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Rake him across the arm, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Rake him across the arm, so he doesn't have he
has no chance of scoring, or you don't foul. And
he didn't hard foul him, so he missed it, but
he gave him an and one. Yeah, that was a
mentally and physically that was a big time mistake.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's how you get a turnover like you saw between
Lebron and Luca Late missed layups. Late guys didn't have
their leg that's the problem. But they also aren't playing
high IQ basketball out there, which is something. I mean,
Austin Reeves has been good in playoff situations before, but
this is the first time he's had real expectations because
he was so good the last three months heading in
(21:15):
and people are expecting him to be good. I said,
people think this is a hot take, and it is,
but I said, I'd take him over Devin Booker right now.
I think that highly of Austin Reeves. I think he
has gotten to that point where if he was on
a bad team like Devin Booker was, I guess this year.
Phoenix had an awful year. He's getting twenty five a game.
He can score any which way you want at this point,
(21:36):
but defensively he has been getting destroyed by Jalen McDaniels.
J McDaniels has picked him apart. And it's the same
thing that happened to him in that second round series
against Golden State that they won a couple of years
ago on their way to losing in the Western Conference
Finals with the Denver Nuggets. Austin's legs were gone after
that series because they kept hunting him out and making
(21:59):
him have to defend. They look gone right now by
the end of games. So the Lakers have so many problems.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What do you do then, Adam? What do you do
when they're hunting. They're hunting not only Austin Reeves as
you just mentioned, but they're also hunting Luca, you know,
from that side. And now you've got at least two
guys that they're hunting. Defensively, now we're going to get
anything we want because these guys don't play defense. What
(22:28):
do you do? If you're the Lakers? How do you
combat that?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You make a trade for more wings this offseason? Honestly,
I don't know if there's a fixed for it in series.
Rodney like, man up, get on your puppies and stay
in front of guys. Find a way. But that's easier
said than done because Minnesota has so many athletes in
so many ways they can beat its not just Anthony Edwards.
In this series you mentioned the others. Minnesota's getting theirs
(22:52):
from the others. They're stepping up for them, but the
Calvary's not on the way for the Lakers. They got
nowhere to turn this is it either I don't know.
I wonder if he's going to start Drian Finney Smith
over Jackson Hayes in Game five and just forget Jackson
Hayes altogether because he didn't start him in the second
half obviously he only played four minutes his JJ just
done with him? Or does he realize, Okay, I can't
(23:15):
do this again. I can't tax us out where even
if we win game five, we have no chance. We
have no legs in game six, and he has to
turn back to some guys that you know he wouldn't
look at coming off the bench in Game four, But
doesn't he have.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
To stay somewhat with Jackson Hayes, I mean you had him,
he used him down the stretch, he played, he played
okay for you down the stretch a little bit, and
he was, you know, kind of you felt like he
was growing into that role and and doing that. But
as you know, and you said it, playoffs are a
different animal, and they find the weakness and they they
(23:51):
find it quick and they exploited and they've exploited him
in this series. But don't you got to find a
way to kind of get him, get him going, because
you don't want a guy like that that you kind
of had in your plans all of a sudden you
can't use him at all.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I agree with you if it was me. This is
how I look at it. Either Jackson Hayes figures it out,
or Goodwin turns into a player we can rely upon
for twelve minutes and gave Vincent becomes more playable and
Van Do becomes more playable, or else we're sunk anyways,
Like we either give these guys a chance to help
(24:29):
us down three to one, or we're not gonna be
able to come back. Even if we do win game five,
We're eventually gonna run out of manpower. We're eventually gonna
run out of horses out there. I have to show
some faith in these other guys because we're gonna need
them if we're gonna come back in this series. It's
just not sustainable to play five or five and a
half guys per game. That's not going to be a
(24:49):
winning formula. Down three to one, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We'll be back. Double A filling in. Absolutely great for
Fred Rogan. Always good to have him on Monday. We
will wrap it up, come back A five seventy l
A sports. Oh yes, it's been a great Monday, my man,
Double A. Always great to hang out with you at
double Ay. Bring the fire brother always always, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Hang out with my favorite Carolina Panthers quarterback behind Berlin,
behind Carrie Collins behind No, I'm kidd and you're my.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Favorite all of those.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You turn the tie, you turned the time two thousands?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Did you even know about Carolina Panthers football man as
being a Northern cow guy? Impresses me, impresses me. Hey, listen,
you know we didn't we didn't touch on this when
we were talking of Annie bon Signior and talking about
the NFL stuff. And I don't want to you know,
beat a dead horse, because everybody's going to beat the
whole Shador Sanders thing. But the kid, right, the kid
(25:52):
that did the prank call, who's the sun of Atlanta?
The Atlanta Falcon defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Jacks Little Jackson.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't even want to even know. I want to
throw his name O Brick, Yes, Jeff Obrick, Yeah, you
guys did it out throw the name out there, But
you know, I don't. I don't even know. I don't
even know what to I don't even know what to
(26:25):
say about it because it's so disgusting and it is
so bothersome that. A first of all, this kid is
not he's not twelve. He's a twenty one year old
(26:47):
kid and son of the defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons,
Jeff Obrick. And if you're you know, he obviously grew
up in the football world, which is why he's into
it like he is. His dad been a coach, I
(27:07):
don't know how long, not familiar with his tenure as
a coach, but been in football for a long long time.
So as a kid growing up, you know, your dad's
involved in that, and dad is around players on a
regular basis, and there's a certain level of respect and
love that a coach has for his players and a
(27:32):
kid because I was the son of a coach, right,
My dad was a coach when I was growing up.
He was in college at the University of Arizona. I
grew up in Arizona. As I got older and my
senior year in high school, he got a job with
the Kansas City Chiefs and he went on and coached
in the NFL for twenty years. And I just had
(27:53):
a level first of all, respect for the NFL guys
and for college players, and then and there was a
there was just a level of I respect what these
guys want to do and what they are doing, and
eventually I'm going to be in those shoes at one point.
(28:14):
And so I would never ever think about trying to
harm someone that I know watching this as a kid
that was a water boy, a ball boy, watching how
hard you know these guys work to not only make
it at the college level, but to fulfill their dream
of going to play the NFL. And for those that
(28:36):
are not familiar with the story, this kid who was
the son of the Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich,
his twenty one year old son basically snuck in and
found his dad's folder or his book or his computer iPad,
whatever it was that had all of the draftees names
(28:57):
and phone numbers in it, and he frank called Shador
Sanders on Friday night or Friday afternoon or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And imitated Mickey Loomis from the Saints as Mickey Lewis
is the defense as the general manager of the Saints,
and imitated him, called him, called Chaudeur directly and said
that we are going to take you with the next pick.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And filmed the whole thing. Adham. He filmed it and
basically led Schadur on to believe that the Saints were
going to take him, and then at the end said, oh,
you're gonna have to wait a few more minutes or
a few more rounds where we'll get back to you, basically,
and then laughed it off with his buddies in the background.
(29:50):
It was I mean, I've heard and seen so many
cruel things done in in this world, and this you
know what we're dealing with right now, But that was
one of the most idiotic, cruel, insensitive, whatever you want
to call it. You just run them off things that
I've seen an individual do to another individual.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's pretty twisted, it's pretty you know. I guess it
happened to a couple other players too, they received from
some prank calls. But obviously Shaduro was the guy sliding
down the draft and that was the big story. And
to try to take away his moment, the biggest moment
of his life, was some fake information there. It's cruel,
(30:33):
it's twisted, it's low class. He's twenty one. It's pretty
bizarre to have something like that happen now. I will
say full disclosure. I used to make some prank calls
back in my day and maybe to this station at times,
and I was a little punk like that. I gotta
be honest. I gotta be honest. I don't think I
(30:54):
took away anyone's moment just because I was prank calling
Steve Hartman and the loose Cannons back in the day.
I don't think it affected anyone like it would effect
should Sanders taking that call at that's that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
He cared about. You prank calling those guys ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
They don't remember. It wasn't life altering. This moment for
Sanders was so to do that. What's interesting is they're
investigating it the NFL because his dad's involved. Now, there's
nothing criminal about a prank call, but if they think
his dad might have handed him the number or they
(31:27):
have to look into it. So more is going to
come out with this. But ultimately you're twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's really all the investigations is about. From that standpoint
is if the dad was involved, right was it was?
Was the dad involved in allowing his son to get
the number? Or did he? Was he complicit in it
and say, oh, yeah, do this kind of cool whatever?
But I can't imagine the dad, knowing that he's in
(31:53):
the business, would do something like this and understand that
this is, you know, someone's dream from early early stage
in their life, but dreamed to play in the NFL
and to do that the dad absolutely knows how sensitive
and how important that is. My question is what do
you do now if you're the Atlanta Falcons or I
(32:15):
know the NFL is investigated, but if you're an Atlanta Falcons,
what do you do? Because I got to tell you,
if I'm on that team and I'm a player on
that team and I know that you're my defensive coordinator
and your son did this. I'm looking at you sideways
for a long time and I'm wondering, what are you
(32:37):
going to do about it?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Are you going to respond it?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
At least sounds like he called Chadur and Shadour took
his call, and that speaks to his character, I would say,
and accepted his apology about it, and even on the
video you can see it kind of brushes it off.
It didn't. He didn't let it get to him. I
would say, that's the big takeaway on this. If he's
(33:00):
going to have a successful NFL career, you're gonna have
to put up with a lot of crap. People are
gonna talk a lot about you, and you have to
just be tef long at times and not let him stick.
So I do think there is some silver lining here
to see that. Sanders was just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, yeah, he comes up, he comes out on, you know,
looking great in this situation on on so many levels
of just first of all, how he handled, you know,
slipping in the draft and say thank you Browns for
drafting me, giving me opportunity. The way he handled all
of that has been great. And even with the apology,
which was clearly written by the Falcon's pr staff from
(33:39):
the kid and and and accepting that apology. You know
it's it's big of schadure. But again, if I'm in
that locker room in Atlanta, I don't know how I
feel and how I respond to that coach. Like you said,
maybe the kid needs to know, and maybe the coach
(34:02):
needs to get suspended. I want to they fired. Maybe
he gets suspended so the kids know that there's consequences
not only to you but to the whole family when
you do something stupid like this.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You got to keep those numbers private. It's like the
nuclear codes.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You can't let anybody get their hands on those. You
gotta be better.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But he's twenty one and the kids you know better.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He should absolutely.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Adam, thank you, brother, appreciate you. Always, always a pleasure
hanging out with you man on a full three hour
show on a Monday, when we had so much to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I love you. You know that you're my favorite and you've
always had my back, So thanks for having me on
doing the full three hours. It was a great time.
K Fig love you as well. Ronnie, love you guys.
It was great to be here. Let's do it again. Tomorrow.
Oh no, Fred's back. I'm sorry to be here.
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