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Speaker 2 (00:01):
The right do we go?
Speaker 1 (00:01):
On Monday? Fred Rogan Rodney Peach on a five seventy
LA Sports Rodney, Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hope Mother's Day was good. Happy Monday, Fred, Mother's Day
was great. At everybody home, All the kids were home,
so it was really good time. Spending in uh Pampa
and Holly all weekend. So it was good.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I was yours great, everything went well. Everybody was over,
had a nice Mexican brunch. That's what mom wanted.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So went well, we're back at it on this Monday
and hopefully it'll cool off a little bit this week.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
How hot was it over the weekendh My god, it
was topping triple ditches in the valley. So yeah, very
very hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We were walking around with the dog and it was like,
oh my god, is this hot? Am I out in
the desert or I'm into Luca Lake? And I was
into Luca Lake and it was hot?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So let's start with the Dodgers. The road trip is done.
They go six and four on the road and they
wrap it up with a split of a four game
series in Arizona. Tony Gonsolin looked good show. Hey, Tony
delivered a highlight moment with a home run in one
of the games. Exciting series. If the Dodgers hit, they hit.
If they didn't, they didn't, it's pretty simple. Let me
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get your take on that series first.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
First of all, it was very competitive series, and it
I guess it went pretty much like I expected at
this point in the year, with all the injuries, you know,
to the Dodgers and pitching and and even some some
position players and Tommy Edmond and Tiascar and Anders. I
thought that that was it was actually a good trip,
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and it was a good win or a good split
with the Dodgers with Arizona. Arizona's gonna be there in
the end. They're gonna find a way to be there
in the end. It's gonna be very competitive. I know
everyone wants to believe the Dodgers have the best roster,
and they do, but there's some other good rosters around
the NL West, and these two, the Padres and the
Diamondbacks are not going anywhere anytime soon. So I thought
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it was good for them to split with them, considering
the injuries. You know what is scary, Fred, is when
when the Dodgers do get everybody back and get healthy,
you know, and they've got their entire pitching staff going
and doing their normal rotations. This is when the team
can be scary, which everybody kind of envisioned when the
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season started. But we haven't seen that yet. We really
haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
No, you know, the Dodgers have the best record in baseball,
right The Dodgers have the best record in baseball. And
that's not good enough though, Fred No, and you can
take it apart, you can rip it the shreds. They
have the best record in baseball, but that ain't good enough.
So here's why I see the Arizona series. First of all,
the Diamondbacks are now a game above five hundred, all right,
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you're gonna who what does that mean? That means, as
you said, Rodney, at the end they'll be there. I mean,
you'd much rather have the best record in baseball than
be a game above five hundred right now. But nonetheless,
the Diamondbacks are one of the best teams in the
National League, and at the end they will be there.
So I thought that was a good test, at least
the litmus test to see where the Dodgers were against
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a team like that. The other side of that argument
is because they are a game about five hundred. How
good are they? Well, you didn't play against them, I
think we can all tell you they're pretty good. They're
pretty good. So that was real. That was a real test.
It wasn't as if they were playing Colorado again. That
was a real test, a test I think they passed.
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If you look at the standings, San Diego is twenty
five and fourteen, Giants are twenty four and seventeen, So
the National League West is tough. I still, and I
may be in the minority here, I don't think the
Giants are there at the end. I think it's exciting,
it's fun, look at these guys go, But in the end,
they're not.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Ready to do this this year.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So overall, I thought it was a real test for
the Dodgers, and in the real test, I thought the
Dodgers played well.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is that fair? Yeah? Yeah, I think that is definitely fair.
They were battle tested in that series. I mean they
kind of ran with the last game, ran away with
the last game. But for the most part they were
all competitive. There was some seesaw battles there, but again,
Arizona is a dangerous team, especially when they play the Dodgers.
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Anybody in this division when they play the Dodgers are
going to get ready to play them. And you don't
sit there and think that if they play the Dodge,
if they play the Diamondbacks, the Padres, or even the Giants,
that's going to be a cake walk and they should
sweep that series.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's not gonna happen because they're all going to play
the Dodgers. Tough expectations against reality. Fans expectations, Well, the
Dodgers should not just have the best record in baseball. Uh,
the Dodgers should be you know, have lost four games
by now. That that's an expectation that is not real
at all. As you watch this Dodger team right now.
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And I said from the very beginning, let's just watch
every game and go on this journey this year. Let's
see how it all plays out. You know how it
was constructed, you know what the plan was, and oftentimes
people don't even know that. They can't figure that out,
but we can. So let's just see how it goes.
How it's going is in the face of adversity. And
I guess it's hard to believe if you have the
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best record in baseball, But for them a slow start.
They do have the best record in baseball. They're starting.
Pitching has been pretty much mauled by injury. Now today,
Tyler Glass Now and Blake Snell are going to see
doctor Elatrosh. They're going to see Neil for evaluations. I
wonder if they carpool.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, how close they lived to each other? You know,
one lives in Manhattan Beach, the other one lives in Glendale.
You know they're not got a carpool. Fred, you think
Neil comes to them? Where they go to Neil? I
think they go to Neil. That's right, that's right, they
go to Neil. Neil's a rock star. They're going to Neil.
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They go to see Neil. The only time Neil's coming
to them is that if there's a game day or
travel or whatever. But other than that, they're going to
see Neil. And Neil's gonna he was gonna do his
thing at his offices with his thirty other little doctors
around him following him. Neils like the pie piper man.
He is the best. You know what it is? First
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of all, how good is it being to get Tony
Goslin back? I mean he has been I think he
has been great in this time where you absolutely needed
him to come back. He's come back and I think
he's performed well. And again they if they do soon
get glass now and Blake Snell back that rotation, and
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then you're gonna get Kershall back. It's going to be
very interesting how they use him, because I think they
went into the season thinking Roki Sazaki, even though he
was gonna pitch, maybe a luxury right, he's work in progress.
He's an luxury kind of guy. Dustin May will use
him as well, but they've had to. They've had to
use them, I think more than they they thought they
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would to start the season because of the injuries. They
get those guys back, and then you throw in Kershaw
and you throw in Shoheyo Tani at the after the
after July, it's gonna be a crazy staff going into
September and October.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And that the conversation we had before the season started.
Just look at all their starting pitching. Yeah, just look
at how many starting pitchers they have.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now I would have started sooner, but he hurt his
backlifting weights. Yeah, otherwise he was ready to go. Because
he was hurt, Dustin May moved in and he looked
okay against Arizona over the weekend. Yeah, he kind of
righted the ship a little bit after a strong start
and then struggling.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So there's two.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, we can list them all again all of
a sudden. Now, if you are a Dodger fan and
you start to hear, forget the guys that got hurt, now,
start thinking about when those guys get healthy, because that's
how we did it at the beginning of the year.
How many pictures do they really have? So when Snell
is healthy, he's going to be evaluated today. Class Now
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he'll be evaluated today hopefully by the way, Glass now
is okay and stays okay. I think that's a concern
here too. Yeah, let's say they do and these guys
are back. Well, there you are exactly what we said
before the season started. Dustin May, Gonsolin, Snell, Class Now, Yamamoto, Sazaki,
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they're six Kershaw, there's seven, Otani, there's eight. There you go,
there's eight. Eight pictures the legit, legit starters.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
This is not the number four starter for Colorado. Now,
every one of these people is legit. So once they
get healthy, there it is. There's the staff that they built.
Here's another thing I was thinking about. And he's still struggling.
He's hitting the ball on the button, but he's still struggling.
And it's Michael Conforto. He is really struggling, Rodney, No,
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he really is. I mean, it was good to see
him hit the ball hard against Arizona, but he's still
not finding too many holes. So yeah, and you know,
it's a moral victory if you say, well, they's sitting
the ball hard, that's a moral victory. And hopefully he'll
come out of it because he's a good ballplayer and
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he's just been struggling. And you know, maybe it's something physical,
maybe it's mental, but I know this, You know, guys,
I got to hit one, twelve, one forty three and
be in the lineup much. He's got to come out
of this and figure it out. I think they have
Oakland up next, so that'll cure what alsia. Maybe he'll
get hot there.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okand's not quite Colorado, now, Fred, come on, there's still
a decent team that can play you tough. But but
you're right, the only good sign is that he hit
the ball hard. It wasn't like he was striking out
he's starting to makes making more contact. Now, if a
guy's up there striking out, you know, three four times
a game and you know, just missing the ball, then
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there's real concern. But if he's putting the bat on
the ball, he's making contact, and he's made hard contact
in the last few games. So hopefully he comes out
of it, because I think they do. They need that
left handed bat in the lineup at certain points and
he needs to be available for them. So he's got
to come on, which is why I think they're giving
him a longer leash than probably most Bob.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Nottt and Gelibie on the show at one o'clock. I'm
sorry two o'clock today, but he wrote something two things
interesting and talking about Conforto or he's a one year deal.
You know who's going to be up next year is
Kyle Tucker. Now, this is the guy you and I
have talked about. He's not flashing, he's under the radar,
and he's probably one of the top five players in baseball.
The Cups rated for him during the off season he
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was with Houston. They'll try to resign him. He could
be a five hundred million dollar guy. And again, it's
all monopoly money if it's not your money, but to
get Kyle Tucker, who honestly, raise your hand if you
really know him, and not many hands are going up.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He's a stud.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, he's really really good, very unassuming, very in
the early days of Mike Trout. Mike Trout like unassuming,
but that guy can really play. And Bob Nightingale said, look,
don't be surprised if the Dodgers take a flyer on
him jump in that game.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I think they will. Yeah, he's not just a one
hit wonder, one year wonder, Fred. He's been doing it
for a while. And I think we, you know, we
sometimes turn a blind eye when if someone plays for
Houston and they play for the Astros. Don't we don't
pay attention. We don't like him, we don't you know,
there's still that pit in your stomach when it comes
to Astros and Astros players. But he was phenomenal for them.
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He was awesome for the Astros, and he's been great
for the Cubs. But you're right, he is, I get yeah,
without a doubt, top five in baseball. He plays the
outfield very well. He's a tremendous hitter. I mean, if
you remember because the Dodgers played the Cubs. I think
eight times already that he has done damage to the Dodgers.
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He is a great player, and if he keeps going, yeah,
you're right, he's gonna be in at four to five
hundred million dollars rate.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Bob Nightingale says, don't be surprised if then will jump
in on that, nothing would surprise me. And remember Canfordo's
a one year deal.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, and heasily. Yeah, left handed hitter Kyle Tucker. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Other thing that Bob rote about, which is I've never
heard this before. You know, after the game, if you're traveling,
everybody on the bus, everybody at the airport, everybody on
the plane, and let's get out of here.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I don't know the expense, but you are operating in
Major League Baseball what eighty one times a year a
charter giant plane. It's a charter where they are taking
everyone to the next stop, the next destination. That's expensive.
That all comes out of operating costs. The Dodgers have
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now decided one plane is not enough. They now have
two planes to take everybody. One plane is exclusively for
the players, a giant jet just for the players, and
the other plane is for everybody else, coaches, managers, manager,
front office personnel, who's ever. Players on one plane, everybody
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else on the other. I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That before now, neither of I I used to. And
when I heard this, I thought that, Okay, this is
a they got two planes and they you know, they
do travel with a lot of staff, probably more staff
than anybody else. And you remember the the the broadcast
guys travel with them too, and they they're they're traveling
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radio guys are traveling with David Vessey's traveling with him.
When I heard that, I was thinking, okay, so the
plane is for I get it, the players and the coaches,
you know, Dave Roberts and the coaches, Bob Garrett, all
those guys and the staff, trainers and stuff are on
that plane. And then the personnel stamp you know, travels
on the other plane, say Andrew Friedman and his staff
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and the marketing folks and whoever else. But no, it's
just the player, just the players. So no, I've never
heard of that where the players got a plane all
to themselves. They can do whatever they want, you know,
I don't know if the planes are the same size,
I would imagine, you know, the player plane, because it's
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what thirty guys that travel, bring me thirty five guys
that travel. It's a little bit smaller than the personnel plane.
But who knows. It's the Dodgers. They play up to
seven forty seven's, they're going going wherever they're going for
eighty one trips red. But that's a that's phenomenal, that's
a that's another reason. So that's the reason people hate
the Dodgers and people want to play for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, that's exactly right. It's the little things you don't
think about. You know, you have some teams that don't
invest honestly in scouting, and the Dominican they don't have
a great scouting presence there. There are some teams that
don't have as many scouts as others. That's that's a
true statement. The Dodgers have more of everything than anyone else.
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And now they have a second plane. So when someone
is a free agent and the question was asked, you know,
they just redid the clubhouse at the stadium, and they
also did some work on the visitors clubhouse as well. Yeah,
why would you redo the clubhouse again? Why? Because when
people come in here, and why would you redo the
visitors clubhouse even to make it a little nicer. Why
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because we want people to come here and look at
the Visitors Clubhouse and go, God, look at this thing.
I wonder what their clubhouse looks like. Yeah, if somebody
is a free agent and you're having the conversation with them, Oh,
by the way, on the road, and I assure you,
the Dodgers stayed the best hotels. I don't know where
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everybody else stays, but I know they stayed the very
best hotels.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
On road trips, you have your own plane as a player.
No one else is on the plane, but you. These
little things matter and they have to win. Of course,
you have to win. Doesn't matter what perks you give somebody.
If the team's awful, but if you are built for
sustained success, and then all of these things start coming
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into play. If you're a player, why would you play
anywhere else? And that's what the Dodgers are banking on.
We're going to do all of this because we know
it's going to work. You said, when you were in Detroit,
they took one size plane. When you played for Dallas,
they took a bigger plane. When you were in Detroit,
you stayed at one kind of hotel. When you played
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for else they stayed at a different hotel. Right, All
teams are not created equal.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
They're not. They really aren't. And it's amazing because you
first get there, and I'm sure a lot of guys
think that, Okay, I made it to the big league.
Exist is the way it is. Every team's like this.
No it's not. There's apples and origines in Major League
Baseball and at the big clubs or in the National
Football League as well. So yeah, and that matters when
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a team comes to Dodger Stadium and they spend time
here and they're coming to the stadium early, and they're
going into the clubhouse and visiting clubhouse. Because we used
to rate it too. We used to go to places.
Oh god, I hate to go to this stadium. That
stadium is terrible. They got a worst locker room ever.
And then you go to certain ones, you go, man,
this is kind of nice. I wonder what they got
on the other side. You do, you absolutely do that
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as a player. So yeah, it is Fred. It really
is about the little things. Why you see guys like
Blake Snell and all the other players, you know, even
O Tani that that want to be a part of
this organ because at the end of the day, first
of all, you're gonna be in. You're gonna be I
have a chance to win a World Series every single
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year because that's that's what the Dodgers believe in. And
then it's that's the standard. And then you're gonna be
treated first class, and that's what all the players want.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So Bob Night and Gale will jump on the show
at two o'clock this afternoon. We'll continue that conversation about
Kyle Tucker and we'll even get to the plane next.
Bill Plashki wrote in The Times he knows the answer
for the Lakers, and fans don't like it, so we'll
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh yes, happy happy Monday. We hope you had a
fantastic Mother's Day. The shout out to all the moms
out there. We appreciate you. Roddy p fred Rogan on
a Monday, Come on, Freddy, all right, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So the Lakers obviously have to do something, and at
their season ending news conference, Rob Polenka said there are
three guys that are untouchable, Luca Lebron and Austin Reeves.
They are your big three. Austin Reeves had a pretty
good year, struggled in the playoffs, but everybody loves Austin
Reeves and it's truly good. They held on to him,
so they said, and JJ Reddick was there. Those are
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the three and whoever the other guys are that we
bring in. So Bill Plaski wrote something. He said, he
didn't want to write it, said, he hated to say it,
but he had no choice. There is exactly one way
for the Lakers to get to the next level. They
need a big, they need a rim protector. They traded
away Anthony Davis, but they got Luca, So they need
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that big, whoever that big may be. And there is
one way to get that guy, and that is trade
Austin Reeves. To get you have to give, and with
Austin Reeves you will get something pretty good in return.
He's young, talented, really coming into his own and that's
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your only option.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's Austin reaveson and someone else, Austin Reeves and two
other players, Austin Reeves and draft picks. What are we
talking for?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, he said, Austin Reeves. I'm saying, Austin Reeves and
something else. He's gonna have to be the cornerstone of
the deal. Austin Reeves.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, but it will be packaged with someone else, yeah,
or something else. But eight Lakers don't have much to
give in terms of something else.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All right, So let's say the Lakers gave Austin Reeves,
ruey somebody else two first round picks whatever for Gianna's.
Austin Reeves would have to be the guy to go.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Noh. Yeah, if you're getting a caliber like like Yannis, well,
everybody believed that he should have been in Dallas for them,
kidding Anthony Davis and and and for one for one,
basically for Luca Dante's. But yeah, if you're gonna get
a caliber like Gianni's, Austin Reeves and and like you said, really,
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but what draft pick did the Lakers have to What
did they have left the thirty first? What did the
nine eight? But I think they have a first round
pick this year, well they do. They didn't give that up.
I think theyreathing.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But either way, whatever you're giving them, you're giving them
in the future anyway. I mean, at that point, you
just give future picks and those they have.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But it's hard.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's I think it's hard for fans to hear that trade.
Austin Reeves, the guy that everybody loves.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Would you trade him?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think, I yeah, I guess I would if I
thought that would get me to where I need to be.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But then on the other.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Side, look, he is saying, that's how you have to go.
Can Rob Polinka find that big guy without trading Austin Reeves?
Can he find whoever that guy is without trading Austin Reeves?
If he can that, it's a bonus. If he can't,
then you got to go for it. But they need that.
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But see Rodney, that led us to the conversation we
had last week. Let's say Giannis is available and he
wants to come to la all right, so now you
have to figure out a way to get him. Look
at and Lebron aren't going anywhere, so really you have
to give up the core of the team to get him.
And if you get him, then you have to surround
yourself with a bunch of nobody's inexpensive, but let's say
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lower cost players than the big stars, and then you
just pray. So I don't know what the answer is here.
Trade Austin Reeves, get a guy that you think is
that missing piece, that rim protector, that big guy in
the middle. You're trading Austin Reeves for Anthony Davis, an
Anthony Davis type guys.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
What you're doing? Yeah? Yeah, And so you got a
bank on Gabe Vincent coming through and playing like they
thought he was gonna play when they traded for him
or they signed him. And you got to believe the
development of Dalton Can unless he's part of the deal
that gets traded away. You got to believe that he's
going to have a much better sophomore season than what
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he had and and pick up his defensive efforts because
you really don't have much to give it, you know,
else to deal with, or at least a build around
those three, which is, you know, was the problem this
past season that you had those three and then you
had guys. So, I don't know, I don't know. You're
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you're in a you're in a tough spot. I mean,
obviously getting Yianness without having to give up Boston Reeves
would be incredible, but that doesn't happen if Milwaukee's smart.
What do you do. If you have the Lakers, what
do you do.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
If you had the chance to get Ji, honest, you
go get him. If you do, you have Giannis, who's
a little older, injury prone, who'll be playing with Luca
down the road, because I don't know how many years Lebron,
Jannis and Luca would all play together. I mean would
point next year and it'll be year by year for him.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, it'll be year by year. And I would say,
you know, two strong years if they were to sign
Giannis here, two strong years of those three playing together,
and then you're looking at probably retiring Lebron or moving
on because Gianness is what I think. Giannis is thirty
and Luca is only twenty six, so you know, you
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got time to build around those guys. But man, they've
they've got a lot of guys in the guaranteed contracts.
They don't have a lot of capital to give away
in terms of bringing them in unless you do give
up the farm, and then how do you build the
team around them. What we've seen in these playoffs is
that you better have some depth. You better have depth.
You don't have depth, and chances are you're not going
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to go far in these playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All right, next hour will up in the phone lines?
What do you say we'll do that next hour? What
do the brons think?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Love it?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Did you see this show in Japan about the humanoid
robot that went insane? Have you heard about this? I
have not a right not the humanoid robot. They have
robots on assembly lines in Japan. Yeah, and obviously their
robots so they're programmed to do what they do. But
what happens if one of the programs is off a
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little bit or the humanoid robot comes off its platform
because it's got to be on this platform. What if
it slips, well, then it becomes out of control. And
you had this robot and its arms were putting things together,
and you had humans watching this, and the robots make
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things go a lot faster, right because they do the
exact same thing and their program So the robot slips
off its pad just a little bit, so now it's
just a little bit off.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So the guys that are there figure, we got to.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Put the robot back on the pad so it'll get
right back in sync and do what it's supposed to do.
The problem is when the robot comes off the pad,
the robot goes berserk.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Know what to do? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
The only thing it knew what to do was swing
its arms wildly. Now, this is not a human being
swinging its arms. This is a metal robot. And you
can't control it. It doesn't listen. You can't say robot, halt,
and it halts. It started winding up and flinging its
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arms around to a point where people started to run
because you can't kill it. You can't control it. I mean,
how would you stop it. That's like a car with
arms and it's just coming at you. Well, how do
you stop that? How can you stop that? You can't?
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So the robot went crazy. Yeah, everybody started to run.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I'm sure it's like it doesn't have a cord
to it that you just pull the plug on the road,
internal battery, that's a sustainable battery to it, so it
can You don't have anything to just switch it off
unless you got close to it, or I gotta believe
they had they had some sort of computer friend that
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could have switched it off or changed its program.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
No, maybe, but it was off the pad, so maybe
that wasn't working. Anyway. What did they do? Some guy
snuck around behind it, was ducking because it's arms or
just flailing. That'd be like getting running into crow bars,
flailing crow bars. And he got around behind it and
somehow he was able to manipulate it back onto the
(27:49):
pad where it regained control. Oh wow, yeah, but that
guy you should get hazardous duty. Paicer had his head
torn off. They need to promote him right away.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So given that Showtory, so the robot all that needed
to do to get back and was to get back
to his pad so we can get into the rhythm again.
Once he got into rhythm, it was all good. It
was good.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But given that story, would you do this? And my
son Jack and his girlfriend Jules, they did it over
last week, so they live on the West Side and
they were coming over to see us. We were on
the West side as well, and they took a WAYMO car.
Have you been in a Waymo Rodney.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I have yet to be in a waimo, but I've
seen you know, first of all, yeah, you see him.
You're seeing him more now here. But they are all
over Arizona, all over Phoenix the Waymo cars maybe because
there's so much sun and they test him there a lot.
But I'm not quite ready to get in one of
those cars, Fred, although I followed one for about three
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to four miles one time, and it made several turns,
it changed lanes, it went right with the light, it
slowed down when cars got closed. I even tried to
get close to it behind it. It slowed down on purpose,
so I would slow down. I mean, they they are
(29:17):
very efficient, but I don't know if I'm ready to
do that because you can't control the other driver. You can't.
It's not that natural human sense that you can see
something getting ready to happen before it happens, even though
they react pretty good with the sensors. All right.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
So Jack and Jules his girlfriend, they met us and
they took Waymo and he texted, he goes, we're in
Weymo right now. So we went outside, note to watch
for the Weymo to arrive right well, and it pulls
up and he gets out and she gets out, and
he said, you know, we love this. We will do
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this anytime possible. The ride is smooth because you're thinking,
if you've never been in, well, I'll just get up
and start driving.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Apparently you touch that steering wheel, the car shuts off
you're done, get out, So you can't do that. There
are safeguards in place.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They said. They were like texting or.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Reading or whatever they were doing, and a car was
just driving itself there, and he said it was smooth
and it made turns and it understood.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm thinking, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So now later in the week, we're gonna see him
again because I'm gonna take the Waimo again. Okay, So,
if the restaurant is on the left side of the street,
the car is driving on the right side of the street, right,
it's on the wrong side of the street, you know,
just across the street. Yeah, so apparently there is something
(30:46):
on the app that you can say, hey, you know,
you're on the wrong side of the street or whatever.
And by the way, you're being watched in all these cars. Yeah,
you're being watched at all times. Yeah, camera's all over
that car. Right, So you know, he types into thing
that says it's on the other side of the street.
You know, he told me the car stopped right in
the middle of the street.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It just stopped, just stopped stop like, but in in
front of the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
No, on the wrong side of the street. It wasn't
even next to the curb.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It just stopped.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
When he said the restaurants on the other side of
the street, the car stopped.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I said, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
He said, We opened the door and jumped out as
quickly as we couldn't got to the sidewalk. The car
just stopped. Well, it didn't go anywhere. I don't know
if it knew where to go.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Wow. Yeah, maybe they had to reprogram it to tell
it where it to go.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
But in the meantime, it stopped, and he's in traffic,
and he thought, I you know, there was a break
in the action. He thought, I'm not gonna sit here
in the middle of the traffic. The car stopped. People
could start honking at it. So he jumped out and ran.
And what did weimo do? When they got out took off?
He said, the rides over. Let's go back to my
other destination. I don't know a driverless car. I remember
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the first time I saw it. I just came up
next to us, said what is that? I got all
this like the fans on it, thing on the top.
It's like a futuristic. I got up next to it.
It was nobody in the driver's seat. It like what No,
I don't know if I could do it. I'm just
not ready for it. Although you know we've look.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
We get on things that are that are automatic all
the time, right, trains are planes basically, you know, you
fly a plane, takeoff and landing is the only thing
the pilot really does. I mean they're they're watching everything,
but they put it on auto pilot. It's flying itself.
Why not cars? But I'm still it's like, uh, it's
(32:39):
like the old Lasi surgery. Fred, I gotta wait a
little while before they so they can totally perfect it. Yeah,
you wouldn't want to have been the first one from
Lasik No, no, no, you'd have been back in three
or four times. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I don't want somebody messing with my eyes if they're
not sure exactly what they're doing. You know what, here's
the deal. I got a good feeling this is gonna work. Okay, great,
and if it were, your vision is going to improve
this much fantastic. Now here's the downside. What we've never
done it before. All right, And I know we're gonna
have to basically cut your eyes, but I don't want
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you to worry about that because if it works, you'll
be able to see like never before. Well, but what
if it doesn't work. We're never really sure about that yet.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, and that's fifty to fifty you might see again. Yeah,
I mean we don't want to do that. Like the
driver of this car, I got an idea. This car
is going to go wherever you want it to go. Great.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, we haven't really done it yet. As a matter
of fact, we've never really had people in it yet.
But if this works, I'm gonna tell you, it's going
to revolutionize the way people travel. Okay, is it safe
what we think it is, but we not any people
in it. Will you be the first one to go
same thing?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
No? Yeah, No, you gotta believe that the uber drivers
and taxi drivers are really really campaigned against this. Oh,
I would trying to lock them out a certain situation.
I bet they can't go to airports, certain you know,
things that they can't pull up into. But but but look,
(34:19):
with all the AI and everything's going on, it's just
a matter of time. You know. Look what we are
with computers and in cell phones now. I mean there
was a time Fred, you and I there were no
cell phones. I look up now and go, what would
you do? Without a cell phone right now? Like, how
do we how do we in college? I didn't have
a cell phone. There were no cell phones when I
was in college. I mean you had to you had
(34:40):
to landline or you went to the phone booths that
made a call. There's no phone booths anymore. Have you
seen a phone booth lately? No? Have you Have you
seen a phone booth in the last five ten years? No,
I wont know. We haven't. Have you seen a phone booth.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I've seen the vestiges of a phone booths.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I've seen a phone booth. They have an active
phone booth, that Philippe. They do, Yes, yes, they do.
They have a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Actually, Okay, do you think there are people listening right
now that have never ever seen a phone booth? Yeah,
and don't even know what you're talking about. Yes, they
don't even have the call boxes on the side of
the freeway anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You'll remember those. Yeah, if there was an emergency box, yeah, yeah,
you just push a button in your car nowadays, or
use your cell phone. But yeah, what do we do?
Remember when you had to use the Big Book Thomas
Guide to find directions to go faces ce seventeen. You go,
(35:42):
see you flip it up, Yeah, flip it open, and
that's how you got directions. There's no GPS or anything
on your phone.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
So for any for people listening right now that don't
even know what that is, the Thomas Guide was. Think
of you don't know where you're going anywhere in Los Angeles,
you don't know any streets, or you're going to an
area you've never been to. Well, now you would type
it into your navigation and often running you go. But
there was no navigation, as Rodney pointed out, So the
(36:12):
Thomas Guide was this very thick book of maps. It
was a map book, and what you would do is
you would look in the back and you're going to
you know, Sundance Circle in Valencia, and it would give
you like a page and then some numbers.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You'd go to that page of the book.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
While you're driving, you'd go to that page of the
book and you'd find it on the map, and then
you would have to figure out the route with the map.
That was how we got around. That was the Thomas Guide.
And think of a giant map book for a city
like or an area like Los Angeles with so many
(36:58):
areas and so many streets. That's how you travel around
with a Thomas Guy. How many people listening right now
do you think you have never heard of a Thomas Guy?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh, a lot, a lot. Seventy five percent.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Okay, And we've also established that you think seventy five
percent have never heard of a phone booth?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, same number.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And you know what's funny about that. So whatever generation
you are listening, if you've never heard of it, or
if you know it very well, to me, all of
that happened yesterday. It seemed that it seems that real.
The Thomas Guide, the phone booth, all of those things.
It didn't seem like it was twenty five, thirty, forty
fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
To me.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I can remember it like it was yesterday. It's just
we do things differently now.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you get a hold of
someone if you needed them right away? You still either Yeah,
you had to wait till they got home and they
heard your voice on the answer machine. That's the only way.
That's the only way, and that's you're a doctor or
(38:11):
a drug dealer. You had a beeper. We didn't have
a beeper. I was neither, and you were cool if
you had a beer. Yeah, you know, you were yeah,
you were there.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
You were the beeper. You'd put well, listen, people may
know about that. You'd put it on your belt loop
and somebody would dial your number and hit it and
the pack you had, the beeper would vibrate and you'd
looked at it and see what number it was from,
and then you find a phone and call it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
That was the beeper. Yeah, right. And if you were
someone that needed to needed needed contact, or someone needed
to be in touch with you on a regular basis,
you had a beeper. You kept a beeper with you.
And then they you know, and then they got to
the two way pages and then they got sophisticated with
you could put messaging on it and all that kind
of stuff. But but yeah, it does feel like yesterday.
(39:05):
It does feel like yesterday. It feels like yesterday would
have had that big, gigantic Motorola phone that they had,
the big giant one with the big INTENTNA on it.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It was the size of a brick. Yeah, those were
the first cell phones. There were bricks. They were that big.
They were enormous. Listen, when they came out with the
first video camera for television, they were called TK seventy
six is rca TK seventy six, And they probably should
have called it TK seven hundred and sixty pounds because
(39:37):
that's how heavy these things were. These were gigantic video
cameras that you would carry around in the field. That's
when people started recording on video in the field. Now
you record video four TV stations in the field on
your phone, on your phone. But the first camera, it
(39:59):
was monst risk. The first cell phone was giant. And
you know what's funny, all those things to me seemed
like yesterday too. Yeah, I can remember them so easily.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Crazy ah man, Yeah, technology moves fast. I mean once
his starts. It started because it was you know, I
think you like the older folks, your parents or uncles
or whatever that went through it and they were at
their latter part of their life just got cell phones
and all that stuff and started to deal with this.
For us, it's just, you know, it's a speed of light.
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his job. He wins the next day, then he's fired.
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Speaker 1 (42:11):
All right, if anybody was curious, Jo Mom's gonna be
on at one o'clock. Thanks real Boja. If anybody wanted
to know, Thank you, buddy. I think it's very important.
We got that right out there, right on right. So
that was my bad. Sorry, Rodney, That's all good.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
So we've talked about Bud Black being manager of the Rockies,
and you know, God bless the guy. He survived a
long time with just a terrible team. So over the
weekend San Diego beat I'm like twenty one to nothing. Yeah,
I mean it was ugly. Now, before the game started,
it was funny. The general manager of the team was
talking with the Denver Post and the guy from the
(42:47):
Denver Post said, look, these guys are terrible and the
record's not very good. What about Bud Black? He said,
Bud Black is doing a great job. And he said,
these guys show up every day to play, and we
can see their working hard and we can sensing improvement,
and basically we're all in on Bud Black. Then they
(43:08):
go out and lose twenty one to another. So you're thinking, well,
that's it for Bud Black. I mean, no matter what
the guy said that, you can't survive that. Buddy survives that.
So they come out the next day and they win,
They beat the Padres. So now you're saying to yourself, Okay,
(43:29):
that was an aberration on Saturday, which was just humiliating.
And we've already heard the general manager say he supports
Bud Black. And they come out Sunday and they get
it together and they beat the Padres. And after the game,
the general manager says, now we're firing Bud Black. Now
he's fired, and his bench coaches fired too. Our fans
(43:50):
deserve better than this. Really, I say you, that's a
fair assessment. I don't know if it's all attributed to
Bud Black. Maybe the players are better than a shoe.
But they lost and he survived, they won, and he
got fired.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's is crazy because we've talked about this before. He's
in a no win situation, which is why we we
believe that he was. He was still there for all
these years. You couldn't figure it out. But given the
way Colorado is run, who wants that job, right, who
really wants that job? They're gonna get it. I mean
they will get a first year manager, somebody that's been
(44:28):
a coach for four and just trying, you know, trying
to get his feet wet being a manager and looking
forward to the opportunity to move up the ladder. But
no established managers want to want to go to Colorado.
They can't win. The organization has proved that they they
have not done what it takes to win there. There
there at one point Colorado, we talked about Colorado being
(44:52):
a force and a competitor of the Dodgers. I mean,
it wasn't too long ago. They went one sixty two
and we had to play one six against the Rockies.
You know, Nolan Aronado was there. They had Turvis's story.
I mean they had they had a team black men,
and they were competitive. And then everybody's gone and it's
(45:13):
not competitive anymore. Now. Is that Bud Black's fault? The
organization decided we're gonna go in a different direction. We're
gonna we're gonna go Oakland. A's Billy ball now. I mean,
it's not his fault, and he's kept it together. He's
a very respected man within the baseball world. And it's
a shame. Like you mentioned, they lose twenty one or nothing,
(45:34):
and then they come back, which to me says everything
about the manager and the players. That if you lose
a game like that against the Padres, you could say
we can write this series off. Man, we're getting blown out,
we're out matched, we're not even gonna we just let's
just get through this day. They came out won the
next day against a very good team, and you fire
(45:56):
them after that. They just don't know where they're going.
To me, they have no direction, no directtion.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Well, look, should he needed to go Saturday night, that's
when he had to go. Yeah, they had to make
a statement right then, Well.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
The GM should go to then if he's gonna fire
him and the bench coach, the owners should get rid
of the GM. Whoever puts the team together, he's got
to go to because it's really about the team, the
construction of the team.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I agree with you. Pittsburgh fired their manager Friday, But
there's still time we can turn it around.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Only what exactly, they got one win every five six days.
They got one win, and that's when Paul Skiings is pitching,
and even then there's no guarantee they're gonna score runs
because he may not go the complete game, so they
better score some runs. But that's the only chance they've
(46:51):
got of really winning is when he's pitching. But yeah,
it's just like, okay, who's coming into Pittsburgh change things
to turn things around because they got a shot.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Now, well, what you have to do is you have
to appease the fan base. Is I always say, somebody's
got to get it. Somebody always gets it. They just
have to. They have to pay the price for this.
And even if it's not your fault, you might get it.
You might be the one. Bud black Well, he should
have got it a long time ago, because they're just
terrible and somebody's always got to get it.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
You lose twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Immediately after the game, the general manager says, unacceptable. Fans
deserve better appreciate everything, but is done for the organization.
We need to change right now this second. You just
got your ass handed to you twenty one to nothing.
Then they come back and win the next day and
(47:45):
he goes, well, look, I wanted to do this last night,
but we couldn't really put everything into place, so now
we have to do it now after they won.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It's just insane. An NFL coach goes out and get beats,
gets beat seventy to nothing, and it's a bad team.
That guy's getting it Sunday night after the game. Oh yeah,
I mean after or on the tarmac like one of
our coaches got it. Yeah, you're gonna get Lane Kiffin. Yeah,
you're getting it on the tarmac. But they waited till Monday.
(48:19):
Your point is valid. You can blame the manager in Pittsburgh.
You can blame Bud Black. If you don't have the players,
you're not gonna win. You're just not gonna win. And
if you're basing success on your player's effort, then it's
a pretty sad commentary on the team you've built. Hey,
we're pretty crappy, but I'll tell you what, our guys
(48:39):
try hard. That's the kind of manager we want. This
guy makes our crappy players play hard.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
What's wrong with that? I think it's the recipe for losing.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, this hour we will take some calls
Laker fans. Bill Plaski says the way to get better
is to trade Austin Reeves. You love Austin Reeves, but
if that's the only way to get better, would you
make that move? And next, the already promised Jovan Boja
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