May 13, 2025 • 40 mins
As the Dodgers get set to face the A's, we talk about the A's future (in Sacramento and/or Las Vegas). Dallas won the draft lottery as conspiracy theories abound that the NBA did them a favor after they traded Luka to the Lakers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's go Fred Rogan and Rodney Peak on
a five to seventy LA Sports. We've got a full
three hour show for you today because the Dodgers home
against the A's.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That'll work that, uh, Fred? Treating them like the damn
Colorado Rockies. You're the Athletics a chance? No, No, you
know it's sad. I think the Athletics are actually better
than the Angels.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They are, they are worlds better than the Angels. They're
five hundred am I having the game over?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yes? Yeah, they got a good young players. Actually, they're
not that bad.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know why you got it into your mind
because they playing Sacramento, Fred, is that why you think
they're the minor league team or something?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, so I've done this. Tell me if you've done
it or not, you're not the MLB package. So I
watch games all the time. I specifically watch the games
in Tampa, where they play in a minor league stadium,
and Sacramento, where they play in a minor league stadium.
Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I have?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I have watched Yes, I have watched the Tampa Bay
Rays play and I've watched the A's play up in Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's it's kind of disheartened me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Isn't it really?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It is it is you feel bad for him. You
feel bad for him that you know, this is a
major league club and then you look up and you're
like we were talking about yesterday with the Dodgers, new clubhouse,
new visiting clubhouse, new you know, everything beautiful and plush
when you come into the Blue Heaven. And then these
guys got to go. I mean they just played the Yankees.
(01:38):
I ain't there, right, And so the Yankees went to Sacramento.
Imagine yank go from Yankee Stadium and then you're going
to play the A's out there in Sacramento at a
minor league park.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They have people sitting on the grass in the outfield.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yes, do you.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Believe that about a major league stadium.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I thought it was a college World Series or something.
It was. Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is so bad for baseball. It is just so
bad for baseball, and both the A's and Ray's our
teams that don't spend a lot of money. Now, of course,
the A's had a real problem with the storm in
Tampa that destroyed their stadium, and now they're still trying
to figure out if they're going to build a new
one in Saint Pete, because they were going to build
a brand new one, right, and then the city said,
(02:21):
I don't think we're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah we don't. Yeah, there's not we don't drawing up anyway.
Why are we going to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We're not going to give you the kind of deal
we thought we would. So the owner of the rains says, well,
then you suit yourself. We won't do it. They have
nowhere to play, they have no where to play. And
the a's is that thing has just been trashed and
run into the ground. And now they're going to move
to Oakland, where, of course the mayor of are they're
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going to move to Las Vegas, Vegas, And of course
the mayor of Las Vegas said, you know, you really
don't need to come. You really don't need to come.
If you want to go back, feel free because in
Vegas there's a mayor of the Strip and the Mayor
of Vegas and the mayor of Vegas, and then you know,
don't rush, there's no need for you to rush up.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh no, don't rush, don't ruh. The stadium is they're
building it though, aren't they? Yeah, I three years, I
guess they play it three years.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It has not broken ground quite yet. By the way,
Brown breaking ceremony is schedule for next month, so technically
they have not started.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
They have not done anything yet. So I mean, and
technically they're were two years away at least.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think three, right, I think twenty eight. I think
twenty twenty eight is when they're Wow, they're gonna thinking
tentatively to start?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Are they going to continue to play in Sacramento for
the next two years? Three years?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, that's right to play.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wow, almost you know, almost prefer them to go to Arizona,
play one of those parks.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
What do you mean, well, not Chase Field. What do
you mean, who whole kind of party?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Ho ho com talking stick, you know, talking stick, you know,
Camelback Ranch, one of those fields and play there.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Why not go to Tucson and play? Well, wait a minute,
the A's had their spring training there. Why don't they
just play there?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, I assume they're a Cactus League team. I know
for a fact that they are. So if you're a
Sacramento you're you're not really closer down the street from Oakland,
but you're a close ish closer there than you would be.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
For your fans.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
For your fans, yeah, your fan base can drive up
the rusts like an hour from Oakland Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So it's not that bad. But they weren't getting a
whole lot of fans anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I was gonna say both fans and actually went to
their games in Oakland anyway, can also just make the
Sacramento Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That is sorry watching those guys play in minor league
stadium though, I have to tell you, and that's why
I specifically wanted to see. Okay, I'm gonna sit there
and watch. Can you see a difference? Yes, when you
watch it, does it feel different? Yes, it just doesn't
look like the big time.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And it feels like the lighting's not that great. I mean,
it's all these little things that just you can tell
where this is like an off brand game?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Where are they playing? This is an exhibition somewhere? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know you you turn on your watching the you
know you watch the Guardians, you watch even the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Are you watching Boston? Are you watching anyway? Kansas City?
You just as soon as you flip.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It on, it's right, it's clear, it's clean, it's you know,
you're watching a game at a big league park, whereas
those two places.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Man Man, Yeah, Baseball has not done a good job
with that. I mean, rob Manfred has has innovated a
number of things. He also called I think the World
Series Trophy a piece of junk at one point when
he was drunk. But they have not handled this kind
of thing well at all. Then why didn't they?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, they didn't, and and it was it. The mayor
of Oakland, Alameda County is screwed up anyway. I know,
I'm dealing with them. So they just decided that they
were not going to allow them to play at the
coliseum anymore. Right, so they said they were moving to Vegas.
They said, okay, you can't play here anymore, but you
can't renew, can't renew your lease, or can't do that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So they probably said, thank god, thank god, we can't renew.
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, there's still a preferred playing there than the
minor league stadium. Fred, when you think, well, I gotta
tell you to be honest with Rodney, to be honest,
if it's the Oakland Coliseum or Sacramento. In that one situation,
I might pick Sacramento. That's how bad the coliseum was.
That was all it is, just off, it really was,
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it really was.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, you were part of a group that tried
to keep the Raiders there. You know how bad everything is.
That thing was terrible. Hey, nobody cared.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And when you deal with but you felt like you
were at a big league park though, Fred, you felt
like you were in head dump, a dump.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But a big league park nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right, you felt like you were a dump. That's what
you felt like. It was awful, awful, And when you
leel with Oakland, you don't deal with Oakland. That's what
people don't understand. Right, There's three municipalities that count, and
everybody gets a vote and gets to extract their pound
of flesh. That's why nothing gets.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Done up and they're never on the same page, no,
because their egos are so involved up there. It's it's
so ridiculous. It's why you know all the teams left.
I mean, you imagine at one point they had the A's,
the Raiders, and the Golden State Warriors playing that same facility,
that the same complex area right there, and all they
gotta do is renovate it.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Renovated.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
There's enough space to renovate it, build new new stadiums,
new things there. It would have been it been like
you know, almost like you know, so far right with football.
Now you got into a dome and just all around
that and just build around it. Yet again, they can
get together and even when certain boat, you know, certain
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teams say we'll pitch in too. So there's no taxpayer dollars.
California doesn't do that right like other states. So even
with that, the county and the city and like you said,
the three municipalities could not get together because too many
Eagles are involved.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So they lost all three teams. And now look at
the city of Oakland, by the way, Yeah, look at Oakland.
Look at San Francisco. Yeah, they're separated by the bridge.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, so they're basically in the same place. It's like
Dallas Fort Worth, right, San Francisco Oakland. Look at what
has happened with the way that city has been operated.
They've lost their professional teams. I'm sure property values have decreased.
Anything that's worth anything is in San Francisco. So you're
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kind of an outlier up there because of the decisions
they've made, their inability to look forward, their refusal to
work together. And now you see what Oakland has become.
So and now the Oakland A's are no longer the
Oakland A's, nor are they the Sacramento as. They are
simply the athletics. They have no home. They are the athletics.
(09:18):
If they were in your heart, then they play in
your city. They are the athletics that will be playing
the Dodgers tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And the thing about it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
When I used to really like the Oakland A's growing
up a little bit, I thought they're you know, especially
because during the time I started to get into sports
in the early seventies, they were winning championships.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Reddy Jackson and Sally.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They had the big names, right, Riley Fingers in sal Bando,
and it was the owner was that Charlie Finley was
the owner, and he was a flashy guy, right, And
they were the first, I think, to start wearing white.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Shoes, you know, And so they were cool. They were cool.
Oakland A's were cool. And look where the are now.
Look with it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Do you think they can survive? I mean, do you
think they survived night, But do you think they thrive
or do much better in Vegas given that it's a
summertime sport and Vegas is one hundred and ten in
the summer.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Do I think they'll draw better?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, they'll draw better than Oakland, for sure, they have it.
But do you think that they do well in Vegas?
You think baseball does well? I mean people said hockey
couldn't survive in Vegas and it's gone through the roof.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And Hockey's killed it. Yeah, and I'm sure the NBA
went against there will do that as well.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, the NBA will kill it in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Sure, and certainly Mark Davis has pleased and he moved
the Raiders there.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But baseball's a different animal. There are so many games,
that's the problem. I mean, there's too many games in
every sport quite honestly. Oh you're not a sports fan,
Yes I am, And as a sports fan, I'm telling
you there are too many games. True, But that will
never change in baseball. I mean, the Dodgers are an anomaly.
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It doesn't matter what game you go to. It's hard
to get a ticket. It's hard to get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's gonna be at least forty five fifty thousand people
in stands on a regular basis on a Tuesday night
at Dodger Stadium playing the Athletics. I mean, there's gonna
be that many people there. You can't get there anywhere else.
But I just don't know Vegas. You know, seven o'clock
game on a Tuesday in Las Vegas, where it's still
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at seven o'clock, it is still one hundred and five.
Are you gonna get people to go out?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I know it's domed and it's gonna be covered, and
you know, we talked about the problems that Arizona Diamondbacks
have had. I mean, thank God that they've won lately,
so they get some crowds there. A lot of those
crowds come from the teams that they're playing. They had
many Dodger fans at that stadium at Chased, then they
had Diamondback fans.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know if baseball survives or at least thrives
in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The only way for it to do that. And I
have no idea what ticket prices and other markets are.
I know they're probably less, except if you're dealing with
the Yankees. But uh, they need to make those tickets
ultra affordable. Whatever the definition of that is ultra affordable.
They need people in the building, so whatever that means,
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whatever that costs, that's what they need to do. Don't
come in there with prices like you're in New York
or LA. Yeah, make it up some other way, right,
make it up. You have some incredible restaurants concessions in there.
You know, maybe add an extra dollar to the dog.
But let people get into the building because once you
get them into building, they're gonna spend money on food
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and beer and everything else. But if you're you know,
like you said, if they've got the second highest ticket
prices in the league, people are gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I ain't going, as a family of four gonna go.
Remember Vegas, Vegas is not stripped. You know, the Strip
is one percent of Vegas. There's a whole community to
people that live in Vegas that have nothing to do, well,
let's say nothing, but they don't. They don't hang out
on the Strip where it's glitzy and glamour. It's big,
big time whales spending all kinds of money. It's the
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people that live there, the residents are the ones that
you're counting on not going to spend that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And here's the other thing. And I've learned that from
working in the desert when I do covering things here
of course in la as well. You know where they
get you, you know where everybody gets you. It's not
necessarily you know, you said, let's make these tickets affordable,
and maybe they make it up a buck moore a
dog or something like that. You know where they really
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get you parking. Yeah, they get you in parking everywhere.
That's where they make their money. Parking. So the tickets,
for example, a hockey ticket out here could be thirty bucks.
You go, okay, that's fine, right, little small market. Yeah,
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parking is forty Yeah, think about that question. More a
park and go to the game. That's where they make
their money. Always in parking.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah they do, Yeah they do.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And you know, you know most places now they have
a special area for rides here now and now you're
sure they're charging those rights. Her companies of fortune to
be able to pull in and drop off and pick
up there.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I think, Kevin, what they're doing down in Orange County,
the Sam Welli's with the Ducks correct me if I'm wrong.
They're starting a new program there where when you buy
a ticket, the cost of parking is already figured in.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That is true. You pay for PID, your ticket and
your parking, and basically you drive up to the parking
garage or whatever it is, you scan your ticket, it
lets you in. You don't have to pay for parking.
In addition, it's all included.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now, I'm sure that they've increased the price, sure, right, Yeah,
they figured it in, right, Yeah, they figured it in.
But I think that's a much.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Better psychologically too. It probably tells the fan like, oh,
I'm not paying for parking. They kind of are, but
you don't realize that you are. So I'm sure that
that kind of plays into it too.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So that that's where they always get you though. Parking
and sure, ride shares are more available now, but in
some places they're very difficult to get to. Yeah, okay,
you want to take rideshair, sure, just walk about a
half mile to the right and that's the ride share area.
So go ahead. Some places do that too to make
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it more difficult for you to get the ride shair
Yeah yeah, yeah, go to lot h yeah to walk
a mile leave now and by eleven forty five you'll
be there. Hell, you'll be home by one. Now, that's
a night on the town. Anybody can appreciate you believe
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in conspiracy theories. I'm not a guy that does that personally.
I think if you do, you have too much time
on your hands. Nonetheless, are we dealing with one that's next?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yes, Oh yeah, Ronnie, Happy birthday to my man Stevie Wonder,
seventy five years young today, Stevie Wonder, the musical genius
that is Stevie Wonder, Lobby Stevie.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Happy birthday, Roddie Pete, Fred Rogan on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Come on, all right, I don't know if you believe
in conspiracy theories. I'm not that guy. I've never been
the guy that sits in the basement with the lights
dimly lit, stared at the wall and tried to decide
if something wasn't real, Did man walk on the moon?
That kind of stuff. I'm not a conspiracy guy, never
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have been. And every time something in the world of
sports happens that seems bit odd or unusual, there's an
immediately there's an immediate suspicion of conspiracy. If something was rigged.
If something wasn't right, Well, if you were ever going
to say that, I would think given what happened in
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the NBA Draft lottery last night, you you might start
considering it. The Dow's Mavericks had a one point eight
chance to finish in the top spot. One point eight
(17:39):
basically negligible, and somehow, some way the balls bounced in
their favoryikes and they ended up with a number one pick. Now,
if you look at things to the conspiracy eyeglass, if
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they well, they just got torched in that city. I
mean they traded Luca. They got Anthony Davis. Lucas a
top five player in the league. His jersey is top
three in sales. And I got Anthony Davis, who's a
hell of a player, but he's not Luca. The fans
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were upset, holding up signs to fire the general manager.
The general manager really couldn't even show his face in
the arena.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It was so bad.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
People were losing faith in a team in a top
ten market. Dallas is important to the league, So lo
and behold the team with probably the worst chance to
win the lottery and get Cooper Flag wins the lottery
and they get the number one pick in the draft.
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All right, Rodney, Now when you hear that, do you
think there was any funny business here?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The percentage was one eight, So you're saying there's a
chance there you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Go, there you go? Uh, No, I don't, I don't.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't believe that there was a there's a conspiracy
theory when you when you do those things and those lotteries,
it can go any any kind of way. If you
believe in that, then you got to believe that all
the state lotteries are rigged and fixed. Although I do
know someone that's wonted three times. No, you don't weird. Yeah,
you know who won it three times? Who for a
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different amount is Hollywood Henderson used to play the linebacker
for the calib for the Cowboys back. Yes, he won
the lottery three times, and one of them was a
big one. It's okay, bit we wanted and it's it
was the quick picks. Yeah, it was one of those
quick picks or state. I've figures which one it was
that he won, But it was the state lottery that
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he won in Texas and uh three times, three times,
three times in the span of like ten years. How
much money did he win? One was a big one.
One was like I think it was was a over
one hundred million dollars something to stop it. Yeah, yeah,
one was a big one. Yeah, one was a big one.
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The other one, we're not too shabby either. So I uh, no,
I do I do not think so. I mean it
sounds that way because they maybe the league feels bad
for Dallas and losing Luca, and they need to reward
the Mavericks because they, you know, they liked the market
of Dallas and and it's a shame that they lost
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the superstars.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
So let's bring him another one.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I get where people can see that and think, oh man,
this is no way.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Because even before.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
The before the lottery, you know, all the analysts were
out there saying where where would be the best place
for for Cooper Flag to go? Where would you like
to see him go? What would be the best place,
and the and the MAVs were and everybody's like, top three,
that would be great, It'd be great. He goes to
the MAVs, he can you know, work with him down there.
And then another one with san Antonio, him and Wemby
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playing together was another one that people said it would
be a good one for them. By the way, san
Antonio has got the second pick, don't they Yeah, and
this year right right, so you know they've had back
to back and then they got the second pick this year.
So one could argue that there's something happening with san
Antonio them trying to make them good.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't believe it yet, you know, because if you're
is that the place, like, if you're the NBA, is
that the place where you.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Want Cooper Flag to go?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Who is obviously the consensus number one going to be
a superstar?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I believe in the league. He is.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Uh, he's a highlight reel. Don't you want to see
him in New York? Maybe Brooklyn? You certainly don't want
to see him. Now if youd have went to the Wizards,
that's how you know definitely was not rigged. Nobody wants
to go to or Charlotte. But Charlotte you might understand
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because Carolina, you know North Carolina duke kid. You might
understand Charlotte, but no, or you might understand New Orleans.
You know him going to team up with Zion, two
duke guys together. Well, Chicago. But I don't know, I
don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh, I don't think there was any conspiracy, but it
was a bit convenient. Let's say that Lebron was on
the Pat McAfee show about a month ago and he
remembered that when he came out of high school, it
was funny that he ended up with the Calves who
had the first pick. Here's Lebron during the ball drop.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
You know, during the lottery drop, Cleveland got the number
one pick. That's not I just don't think that was
just keep Lebron home, you know what, Patrick going to
the Knicks, you know, Darrin Rose to the understand Simon Gosham,
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you know, so you know it's I had to make
sure that, you know, I had to do my part.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Now, you know, when you think about it, I could
see where one would suggest that they they may have
wanted this to happen and wield it to happen and
manifested it. Fred for Lebron, Akron kid Akron, Ohio's keep
him in Cleveland and Derek Rose right Chicago kids staying
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in Chicago. You know, stranger thing, is it?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Happened. I should say one thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I will say, so the year that Lebron was taking
first overall, the Cavaliers actually at the best odds of
any team in the lottery to get a little kid,
and the Sun picked right. So it was very much
different than this situation. For Dallas, they had a twenty
two and a half percent chance of winning the lottery,
greater than anybody else because they have the worst record
the year before.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Kevin, do you think this thing is uh rigged?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, it's ridiculous. It's a convenient narrative for people to
throw out there.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But no, yeah, there's a there media member.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They started doing this. I think over the last ten years,
members of the media go back when the actual lottery
is happening with the thousands of balls or however many
they are for full transparency, so they can't it's not
just a frozen envelope theory. Even back in the day
with David Stern and Patrick Ewing, so there there are
a number of people who are actually watching the lottery
happen live in real time. One thing I think that
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would help greatly, and I still don't know why the
NBA doesn't do it. If you don't want to do
it live, you think it takes too much time. Fine,
take record the actual lottery itself and the put it
up on your YouTube page or something afterwards, so people
can actually watch exactly how it happened. So that can
really dispel any notions of any conspiracy. But there's actual people,
media members who are live in person watching the lottery
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happen to make sure that none of these theories sprout up.
And yet they still sprout up anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So that's a good point first. And Mark mcdeina was
one of those people a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You're right, yeah, And they lock in the room and
they you going there at one o'clock and you can't
use your phone talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
They take your phones away.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right, so you're locked in a room and you can't
come out.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
How many how many people are doing how many media
members are allowed in there?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Did they have in there? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And then and the purpose is what So there's nothing
like like we're talking about right now, there's no funny business.
It's it's like they got outside witnesses to see these
balls being juggled and picked the right way.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's exactly why they do it. But I think Kevin,
that's brilliant. The minute the TV broadcast is over, put
it up on your YouTube page. The whole thing, however
long takes, and it really doesn't take very long.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Put it up there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Let everybody sit back and watch it when it's all done.
That's a really smart idea. They should do that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And it's all fourteen media members, by the way, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, Well, who go back for a couple of times
and like, obviously, you know, Wemby was consensus obviously number one. Uh,
you know, Cooper flag will be this year, you know,
going back to the Patrick Ewing, I mean, Jordan wasn't
even the first pick. It was Elijah one was right, right, yep,
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But that the the consistent number one pick went to
a place that was oh that was a little shady
that that couldn't have happened naturally. Can you remember more
or any other than you know, you know, everybody said Wemby.
It would be a perfect matchup with Popovich right in
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San Antonio because he's had Tim Dunk and he said
David Robinson, he knows how to handle the bigs and
he's a great coach and should be there. But that
didn't throw off conspiracy theories and say, oh they rigged that.
I'm trying to think back, was Zion, right? Zion was
a consensus number one.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
He was definitely Yeah, him going to New Orleans? Was
that like some conspiracy you think?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
No, No, I mean the only way I think I
can think of the most popular one as the Patrick
Ewing and that was all the way back in the eighties.
Since then, I can't really think of it.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
In New York. Yeah, to the Knicks, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's the most popular one that people try to throw
out there. That was the frozen envelope theory.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, yeah, we want we want Patrick Ewing and the
big Apple in the big city and and bring back
the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I just again, I don't buy the conspiracy, but I'll
say this, awfully lucky for the Mavericks. I don't buy
the conspiracy, but we lucky. Who knew? Who would I
thunk that? At one o'clock, Jerry Harriston Junior will join
the show. You know, we talked about it what earlier
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in the week, or yeah, we talked about it yesterday. Okay,
what really happened when the Dodgers celebrated in the pool
in Arizona. What really happened there? Well, we're going to
ask Jerry that question, and two o'clock we'll get into
the NBA with Assualty a Adam Auslin.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Today's Afternoon Delight is Hang It On by Blake Shelton
and Gwen Stefani. This song appears on Shelton's new album,
entitled A Recreational Use Only, which dropped last week. We're
talking about the creative process when making a song with
(28:55):
his wife. Shelton said, we lived together, so we walk
around the house singing these songs all the time, and
we have months to talk about. Hey, maybe you jump
on that part, et cetera. By the time we get
to the studio, we're normally really prepared. Again, Today's Afternoon
Delight is Hanging On by Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
All right, and now.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
From the court to the court room with Jacob and Ronnie. Okay,
now are weekly chat with a good friend Jacob and
Ronnie and Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Good afternoon?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How are you guys doing well?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Jacob doing well? Doing all right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I have a question off Tom. I've never asked you
this before, but I was thinking about it in the break.
What is the weirdest case that you have ever been
involved in?
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, so I've had a few, I uh to pop
in my mind. One weird case is that I had
had a young lady who reached out to us and
said that she had suffered a slip and fall at
Cheesecake Factory. And that is not so odd, even though
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Cheesecake Factory their floors are always very slippery. When we
asked her what kind of shoes she was wearing, she
said she was wearing these heels, and there was those
very thick, you know, front, very platform heels, and Cheescake
Factory denied the claim, saying that no, she never fell here.
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So we have to find a witness, and the witness
was the individual that she was out to dinner with.
And when we wanted to get the person she was
out to dinner with to testify, he wouldn't testify. And
it took us about a year and a half to
two years to find out that not only were they
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not husband and wife, but the gentleman was having an
affair with her. For that reason, he could not testify,
and it became a it went from a slip and
fall case to you know, us having to try to
figure out what's the best route to go forward, you know,
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not to unfortunately ruin people's lives. And you know, it
ended up well at the end of the day because
I think she used whatever type of method in order
to make sure that he does end up testifying and
writing and he never had to come to a deposition.
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But that was a very weird one. And I have
another one. You want to hear another one?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, but first did those two wind up together?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Not even close? But he definitely, he definitely ended up
making sure that she got paid and she got paid
really really well, so you know that that's fixed in
my mind. And another one was, unfortunately, you know, a
lady who had claimed that her you know, breast implants
had popped during a you know, an auto accident, and
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I didn't know much about you know, uh implants and
plastic surgery and all of those things, and uh, you know,
we have to learn a lot about that and through
the process got a real understanding about why she got
her implants and having to try to get the plastic
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surgeon who did the implants to testify, And you know,
I have a lot of respect for doctors, but sometimes,
you know, they're a little bit difficult to deal with,
especially in the plastic surgery part of the world. So
there was a lot of psychology and psychiatry we have
to do in order to be able to, you know,
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get that particular plastic surgeon, you know, to testify for us,
because he was a very well known plastic surgeon who
was on TV at that time, and you know, I
don't know if he necessarily wanted to be involved in
such a case. So I deal with weird cases all
the time, but those two, you know, stand out in
my mind just because of the fact that you have
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to deal with a lot of outside forces in order
to prove our case, and that's not always easy when
they don't have a vested interests in the case. But
there's such an integral part of your case.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did the plastic surgeon testify.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
He finally did. Yes, he finally did after you know,
he found out that he can have permission in order
to use that as part of his marketing, and he
ended up using it as part of his marketing. So
of course, you know, it was basically a give and
take but it was just just crazy because I mean,
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you know, you hear that professionals, even sometimes attorneys or doctors,
they have this God complex and it's very difficult to
deal with people who you know, put themselves in front
of their client their patients. And you know, I remember
that very clearly because I had to take the guy
out to lunch at these three different times and you know,
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have him understand why this was so important for this
lady who had spent every penny of her savings for
you know, a couple of years in order to get
all of these procedures at his office. And the least
he could do right now is just give us an
expert opinion on how you know such an accident could
have caused this. And you know, obviously, being who he was,
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his testimony would have been very key because of his
credibility was very high. So it ended up it ended
up well. But again, you know, we have to go
through a lot of you know, work, even for the
most basic aspects of cases that you never think, you know,
would require the type of effort that we put in.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, uh interesting. I'm sure if we give you time,
you come up with ten other cases that are probably
strange and weird to most people.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Another thing that's not strange, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We talked about this yesterday is that Bill Plashki wrote
that in order for the Lakers to be contenders going forward,
they're going to have to trade, as painful as it
may be, trade Austin Reeves.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You what do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And would you trade Austin Reeves to get a quality
big in here?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
He was part of the package.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
So that's crazy because I think this con you know,
this concept of Austin Reeves being traded has caught so much,
you know, it's gotten a lot of speed in the
past couple of days, and I'm reading about it all
over the place, and I think one of the things
that I read was the fact that, you know, the
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Lakers can only pay him twenty million, but if he
opts out, he can go into the open market and
get upwards of forty million. So I think if if
the Lakers can't come up with a way to keep him,
then obviously you don't want to lose him in the
open market for nothing. I'm not one that is looking
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at Austin's playoff performance as a way to evaluate him.
I think he's been great for the Lakers. I think
he's been great for the team. Obviously the playoffs were
not you know, was not great for him. But it's
a little difficult for me because it just depends what
type of the big you're getting back for him, because
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I do believe you're losing a lot of firepower and
scoring by, you know, by losing him. And I think
the big that Luca needs is somebody who can play
well off of, you know, the dunk position on the court.
And I don't necessarily think that you have to get
a superstar to do that. I think you just got
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to get a young, active, you know, center or two
that can do the work because you know, Luca is great,
but he has to have the ball, and you know,
it just depends on who you bring on board. So
long answer, I think it all depends on who. You know,
you would need to trade Austin for Jacob.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Our listeners love and you offer serious advice about the
law and how about this, what are your rights if
you're involved in an accident but you're a passenger?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, so you know we've talked about passengers and used
to talk a lot more about them, you know, in
the past, because a lot of people who were passengers
in an uber would get injured, and most of the
time they would just sit and stay in the car
while the uber driver the lyft driver would get out
exchange information with the other party, and usually they would
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be the one that does. You know, don't have too
much information. But as a passenger, you're always fault free
and you have the highest amount of right, and whether
that means you recover from the insurance company of the
vehicle you're in if the driver of your car was
at fault, or if you're recovering from the opposite party
because the other party was at fault. But one of
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the things that we have to remember is that if
you're even a passenger in a vehicle with a friend,
you can recover. But if you're a passenger in a
vehicle maybe with your own relative, maybe your father's driving,
your mother's driving, and they're at fault, you're not able
to recover from that passenger being a passenger from that
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vehicle if you live in the same household, so you know,
someone's kid or someone's wife cannot sue their own husband
or recover from their own husband when they're a passenger.
But as a passenger and the majority of the other situations,
you have the highest amount of protection and no matter
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who's that fault, you can make a recovery. That's why
as passengers, I always encourage our listeners to be proactive,
take action. Don't just sit there. Whatever information is being
exchanged between your driver and the other party, ask for
a copy of it. Take a picture of both vehicles,
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because sometimes you're the one who gets stuck in the middle.
If your driver says it's the other person's fault and
the other person says it's your driver's fault, the one
thing you have going for you that is not your fault,
and you will make a recovery. Whether it's fifty percent
from the other side and fifty percent from the vehicle
you were in, one hundred percent one side and the other.
No matter what happens, you stand to make a recovery.
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And that's the reason that you need to make sure
that you are active, very active and aggressive in terms
of protecting your rights.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The passenger outstanding, good advice, Jacob, and we appreciate you
checking in again.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
All right, when we come back top of the hour,
Jerry Hairston Junior joined us. We'll talk some Dodgers. We'll
find out what happened in the pool in Arizona. At
least i'll ask the question. Rokie Sazaki's velocity is down.
We'll get into that as well.
All right, let's go Fred Rogan and Rodney Peak on
a five to seventy LA Sports. We've got a full
three hour show for you today because the Dodgers home
against the A's.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That'll work that, uh, Fred? Treating them like the damn
Colorado Rockies. You're the Athletics a chance? No, No, you
know it's sad. I think the Athletics are actually better
than the Angels.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They are, they are worlds better than the Angels. They're
five hundred am I having the game over?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yes? Yeah, they got a good young players. Actually, they're
not that bad.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know why you got it into your mind
because they playing Sacramento, Fred, is that why you think
they're the minor league team or something?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, so I've done this. Tell me if you've done
it or not, you're not the MLB package. So I
watch games all the time. I specifically watch the games
in Tampa, where they play in a minor league stadium,
and Sacramento, where they play in a minor league stadium.
Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I have?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I have watched Yes, I have watched the Tampa Bay
Rays play and I've watched the A's play up in Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's it's kind of disheartened me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Isn't it really?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It is it is you feel bad for him. You
feel bad for him that you know, this is a
major league club and then you look up and you're
like we were talking about yesterday with the Dodgers, new clubhouse,
new visiting clubhouse, new you know, everything beautiful and plush
when you come into the Blue Heaven. And then these
guys got to go. I mean they just played the Yankees.
(01:38):
I ain't there, right, And so the Yankees went to Sacramento.
Imagine yank go from Yankee Stadium and then you're going
to play the A's out there in Sacramento at a
minor league park.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They have people sitting on the grass in the outfield.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yes, do you.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Believe that about a major league stadium.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I thought it was a college World Series or something.
It was. Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is so bad for baseball. It is just so
bad for baseball, and both the A's and Ray's our
teams that don't spend a lot of money. Now, of course,
the A's had a real problem with the storm in
Tampa that destroyed their stadium, and now they're still trying
to figure out if they're going to build a new
one in Saint Pete, because they were going to build
a brand new one, right, and then the city said,
(02:21):
I don't think we're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah we don't. Yeah, there's not we don't drawing up anyway.
Why are we going to do that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We're not going to give you the kind of deal
we thought we would. So the owner of the rains says, well,
then you suit yourself. We won't do it. They have
nowhere to play, they have no where to play. And
the a's is that thing has just been trashed and
run into the ground. And now they're going to move
to Oakland, where, of course the mayor of are they're
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going to move to Las Vegas, Vegas, And of course
the mayor of Las Vegas said, you know, you really
don't need to come. You really don't need to come.
If you want to go back, feel free because in
Vegas there's a mayor of the Strip and the Mayor
of Vegas and the mayor of Vegas, and then you know,
don't rush, there's no need for you to rush up.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh no, don't rush, don't ruh. The stadium is they're
building it though, aren't they? Yeah, I three years, I
guess they play it three years.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It has not broken ground quite yet. By the way,
Brown breaking ceremony is schedule for next month, so technically
they have not started.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
They have not done anything yet. So I mean, and
technically they're were two years away at least.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think three, right, I think twenty eight. I think
twenty twenty eight is when they're Wow, they're gonna thinking
tentatively to start?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Are they going to continue to play in Sacramento for
the next two years? Three years?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, that's right to play.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wow, almost you know, almost prefer them to go to Arizona,
play one of those parks.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
What do you mean, well, not Chase Field. What do
you mean, who whole kind of party?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Ho ho com talking stick, you know, talking stick, you know,
Camelback Ranch, one of those fields and play there.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Why not go to Tucson and play? Well, wait a minute,
the A's had their spring training there. Why don't they
just play there?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, I assume they're a Cactus League team. I know
for a fact that they are. So if you're a
Sacramento you're you're not really closer down the street from Oakland,
but you're a close ish closer there than you would be.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
For your fans.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
For your fans, yeah, your fan base can drive up
the rusts like an hour from Oakland Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So it's not that bad. But they weren't getting a
whole lot of fans anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I was gonna say both fans and actually went to
their games in Oakland anyway, can also just make the
Sacramento Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That is sorry watching those guys play in minor league
stadium though, I have to tell you, and that's why
I specifically wanted to see. Okay, I'm gonna sit there
and watch. Can you see a difference? Yes, when you
watch it, does it feel different? Yes, it just doesn't
look like the big time.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And it feels like the lighting's not that great. I mean,
it's all these little things that just you can tell
where this is like an off brand game?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Where are they playing? This is an exhibition somewhere? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know you you turn on your watching the you
know you watch the Guardians, you watch even the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Are you watching Boston? Are you watching anyway? Kansas City?
You just as soon as you flip.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It on, it's right, it's clear, it's clean, it's you know,
you're watching a game at a big league park, whereas
those two places.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Man Man, Yeah, Baseball has not done a good job
with that. I mean, rob Manfred has has innovated a
number of things. He also called I think the World
Series Trophy a piece of junk at one point when
he was drunk. But they have not handled this kind
of thing well at all. Then why didn't they?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, they didn't, and and it was it. The mayor
of Oakland, Alameda County is screwed up anyway. I know,
I'm dealing with them. So they just decided that they
were not going to allow them to play at the
coliseum anymore. Right, so they said they were moving to Vegas.
They said, okay, you can't play here anymore, but you
can't renew, can't renew your lease, or can't do that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So they probably said, thank god, thank god, we can't renew.
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, there's still a preferred playing there than the
minor league stadium. Fred, when you think, well, I gotta
tell you to be honest with Rodney, to be honest,
if it's the Oakland Coliseum or Sacramento. In that one situation,
I might pick Sacramento. That's how bad the coliseum was.
That was all it is, just off, it really was,
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it really was.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, you were part of a group that tried
to keep the Raiders there. You know how bad everything is.
That thing was terrible. Hey, nobody cared.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And when you deal with but you felt like you
were at a big league park though, Fred, you felt
like you were in head dump, a dump.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But a big league park nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right, you felt like you were a dump. That's what
you felt like. It was awful, awful, And when you
leel with Oakland, you don't deal with Oakland. That's what
people don't understand. Right, There's three municipalities that count, and
everybody gets a vote and gets to extract their pound
of flesh. That's why nothing gets.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Done up and they're never on the same page, no,
because their egos are so involved up there. It's it's
so ridiculous. It's why you know all the teams left.
I mean, you imagine at one point they had the A's,
the Raiders, and the Golden State Warriors playing that same facility,
that the same complex area right there, and all they
gotta do is renovate it.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Renovated.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
There's enough space to renovate it, build new new stadiums,
new things there. It would have been it been like
you know, almost like you know, so far right with football.
Now you got into a dome and just all around
that and just build around it. Yet again, they can
get together and even when certain boat, you know, certain
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teams say we'll pitch in too. So there's no taxpayer dollars.
California doesn't do that right like other states. So even
with that, the county and the city and like you said,
the three municipalities could not get together because too many
Eagles are involved.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So they lost all three teams. And now look at
the city of Oakland, by the way, Yeah, look at Oakland.
Look at San Francisco. Yeah, they're separated by the bridge.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, so they're basically in the same place. It's like
Dallas Fort Worth, right, San Francisco Oakland. Look at what
has happened with the way that city has been operated.
They've lost their professional teams. I'm sure property values have decreased.
Anything that's worth anything is in San Francisco. So you're
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kind of an outlier up there because of the decisions
they've made, their inability to look forward, their refusal to
work together. And now you see what Oakland has become.
So and now the Oakland A's are no longer the
Oakland A's, nor are they the Sacramento as. They are
simply the athletics. They have no home. They are the athletics.
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If they were in your heart, then they play in
your city. They are the athletics that will be playing
the Dodgers tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And the thing about it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
When I used to really like the Oakland A's growing
up a little bit, I thought they're you know, especially
because during the time I started to get into sports
in the early seventies, they were winning championships.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Reddy Jackson and Sally.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They had the big names, right, Riley Fingers in sal Bando,
and it was the owner was that Charlie Finley was
the owner, and he was a flashy guy, right, And
they were the first, I think, to start wearing white.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Shoes, you know, And so they were cool. They were cool.
Oakland A's were cool. And look where the are now.
Look with it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Do you think they can survive? I mean, do you
think they survived night, But do you think they thrive
or do much better in Vegas given that it's a
summertime sport and Vegas is one hundred and ten in
the summer.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Do I think they'll draw better?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, they'll draw better than Oakland, for sure, they have it.
But do you think that they do well in Vegas?
You think baseball does well? I mean people said hockey
couldn't survive in Vegas and it's gone through the roof.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And Hockey's killed it. Yeah, and I'm sure the NBA
went against there will do that as well.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, the NBA will kill it in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Sure, and certainly Mark Davis has pleased and he moved
the Raiders there.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But baseball's a different animal. There are so many games,
that's the problem. I mean, there's too many games in
every sport quite honestly. Oh you're not a sports fan,
Yes I am, And as a sports fan, I'm telling
you there are too many games. True, But that will
never change in baseball. I mean, the Dodgers are an anomaly.
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It doesn't matter what game you go to. It's hard
to get a ticket. It's hard to get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's gonna be at least forty five fifty thousand people
in stands on a regular basis on a Tuesday night
at Dodger Stadium playing the Athletics. I mean, there's gonna
be that many people there. You can't get there anywhere else.
But I just don't know Vegas. You know, seven o'clock
game on a Tuesday in Las Vegas, where it's still
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at seven o'clock, it is still one hundred and five.
Are you gonna get people to go out?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I know it's domed and it's gonna be covered, and
you know, we talked about the problems that Arizona Diamondbacks
have had. I mean, thank God that they've won lately,
so they get some crowds there. A lot of those
crowds come from the teams that they're playing. They had
many Dodger fans at that stadium at Chased, then they
had Diamondback fans.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know if baseball survives or at least thrives
in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
The only way for it to do that. And I
have no idea what ticket prices and other markets are.
I know they're probably less, except if you're dealing with
the Yankees. But uh, they need to make those tickets
ultra affordable. Whatever the definition of that is ultra affordable.
They need people in the building, so whatever that means,
(12:20):
whatever that costs, that's what they need to do. Don't
come in there with prices like you're in New York
or LA. Yeah, make it up some other way, right,
make it up. You have some incredible restaurants concessions in there.
You know, maybe add an extra dollar to the dog.
But let people get into the building because once you
get them into building, they're gonna spend money on food
(12:41):
and beer and everything else. But if you're you know,
like you said, if they've got the second highest ticket
prices in the league, people are gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I ain't going, as a family of four gonna go.
Remember Vegas, Vegas is not stripped. You know, the Strip
is one percent of Vegas. There's a whole community to
people that live in Vegas that have nothing to do, well,
let's say nothing, but they don't. They don't hang out
on the Strip where it's glitzy and glamour. It's big,
big time whales spending all kinds of money. It's the
(13:08):
people that live there, the residents are the ones that
you're counting on not going to spend that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And here's the other thing. And I've learned that from
working in the desert when I do covering things here
of course in la as well. You know where they
get you, you know where everybody gets you. It's not
necessarily you know, you said, let's make these tickets affordable,
and maybe they make it up a buck moore a
dog or something like that. You know where they really
(13:36):
get you parking. Yeah, they get you in parking everywhere.
That's where they make their money. Parking. So the tickets,
for example, a hockey ticket out here could be thirty bucks.
You go, okay, that's fine, right, little small market. Yeah,
(13:56):
parking is forty Yeah, think about that question. More a
park and go to the game. That's where they make
their money. Always in parking.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah they do, Yeah they do.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And you know, you know most places now they have
a special area for rides here now and now you're
sure they're charging those rights. Her companies of fortune to
be able to pull in and drop off and pick
up there.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I think, Kevin, what they're doing down in Orange County,
the Sam Welli's with the Ducks correct me if I'm wrong.
They're starting a new program there where when you buy
a ticket, the cost of parking is already figured in.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That is true. You pay for PID, your ticket and
your parking, and basically you drive up to the parking
garage or whatever it is, you scan your ticket, it
lets you in. You don't have to pay for parking.
In addition, it's all included.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now, I'm sure that they've increased the price, sure, right, Yeah,
they figured it in, right, Yeah, they figured it in.
But I think that's a much.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Better psychologically too. It probably tells the fan like, oh,
I'm not paying for parking. They kind of are, but
you don't realize that you are. So I'm sure that
that kind of plays into it too.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So that that's where they always get you though. Parking
and sure, ride shares are more available now, but in
some places they're very difficult to get to. Yeah, okay,
you want to take rideshair, sure, just walk about a
half mile to the right and that's the ride share area.
So go ahead. Some places do that too to make
(15:29):
it more difficult for you to get the ride shair
Yeah yeah, yeah, go to lot h yeah to walk
a mile leave now and by eleven forty five you'll
be there. Hell, you'll be home by one. Now, that's
a night on the town. Anybody can appreciate you believe
(15:55):
in conspiracy theories. I'm not a guy that does that personally.
I think if you do, you have too much time
on your hands. Nonetheless, are we dealing with one that's next?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yes, Oh yeah, Ronnie, Happy birthday to my man Stevie Wonder,
seventy five years young today, Stevie Wonder, the musical genius
that is Stevie Wonder, Lobby Stevie.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Happy birthday, Roddie Pete, Fred Rogan on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Come on, all right, I don't know if you believe
in conspiracy theories. I'm not that guy. I've never been
the guy that sits in the basement with the lights
dimly lit, stared at the wall and tried to decide
if something wasn't real, Did man walk on the moon?
That kind of stuff. I'm not a conspiracy guy, never
(16:54):
have been. And every time something in the world of
sports happens that seems bit odd or unusual, there's an
immediately there's an immediate suspicion of conspiracy. If something was rigged.
If something wasn't right, Well, if you were ever going
to say that, I would think given what happened in
(17:15):
the NBA Draft lottery last night, you you might start
considering it. The Dow's Mavericks had a one point eight
chance to finish in the top spot. One point eight
(17:39):
basically negligible, and somehow, some way the balls bounced in
their favoryikes and they ended up with a number one pick. Now,
if you look at things to the conspiracy eyeglass, if
(17:59):
they well, they just got torched in that city. I
mean they traded Luca. They got Anthony Davis. Lucas a
top five player in the league. His jersey is top
three in sales. And I got Anthony Davis, who's a
hell of a player, but he's not Luca. The fans
(18:21):
were upset, holding up signs to fire the general manager.
The general manager really couldn't even show his face in
the arena.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It was so bad.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
People were losing faith in a team in a top
ten market. Dallas is important to the league, So lo
and behold the team with probably the worst chance to
win the lottery and get Cooper Flag wins the lottery
and they get the number one pick in the draft.
(18:52):
All right, Rodney, Now when you hear that, do you
think there was any funny business here?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The percentage was one eight, So you're saying there's a
chance there you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Go, there you go? Uh, No, I don't, I don't.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I don't believe that there was a there's a conspiracy
theory when you when you do those things and those lotteries,
it can go any any kind of way. If you
believe in that, then you got to believe that all
the state lotteries are rigged and fixed. Although I do
know someone that's wonted three times. No, you don't weird. Yeah,
you know who won it three times? Who for a
(19:34):
different amount is Hollywood Henderson used to play the linebacker
for the calib for the Cowboys back. Yes, he won
the lottery three times, and one of them was a
big one. It's okay, bit we wanted and it's it
was the quick picks. Yeah, it was one of those
quick picks or state. I've figures which one it was
that he won, But it was the state lottery that
(19:56):
he won in Texas and uh three times, three times,
three times in the span of like ten years. How
much money did he win? One was a big one.
One was like I think it was was a over
one hundred million dollars something to stop it. Yeah, yeah,
one was a big one. Yeah, one was a big one.
(20:16):
The other one, we're not too shabby either. So I uh, no,
I do I do not think so. I mean it
sounds that way because they maybe the league feels bad
for Dallas and losing Luca, and they need to reward
the Mavericks because they, you know, they liked the market
of Dallas and and it's a shame that they lost
(20:38):
the superstars.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
So let's bring him another one.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I get where people can see that and think, oh man,
this is no way.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Because even before.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
The before the lottery, you know, all the analysts were
out there saying where where would be the best place
for for Cooper Flag to go? Where would you like
to see him go? What would be the best place,
and the and the MAVs were and everybody's like, top three,
that would be great, It'd be great. He goes to
the MAVs, he can you know, work with him down there.
And then another one with san Antonio, him and Wemby
(21:08):
playing together was another one that people said it would
be a good one for them. By the way, san
Antonio has got the second pick, don't they Yeah, and
this year right right, so you know they've had back
to back and then they got the second pick this year.
So one could argue that there's something happening with san
Antonio them trying to make them good.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't believe it yet, you know, because if you're
is that the place, like, if you're the NBA, is
that the place where you.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Want Cooper Flag to go?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Who is obviously the consensus number one going to be
a superstar?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I believe in the league. He is.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Uh, he's a highlight reel. Don't you want to see
him in New York? Maybe Brooklyn? You certainly don't want
to see him. Now if youd have went to the Wizards,
that's how you know definitely was not rigged. Nobody wants
to go to or Charlotte. But Charlotte you might understand
(22:05):
because Carolina, you know North Carolina duke kid. You might
understand Charlotte, but no, or you might understand New Orleans.
You know him going to team up with Zion, two
duke guys together. Well, Chicago. But I don't know, I
don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh, I don't think there was any conspiracy, but it
was a bit convenient. Let's say that Lebron was on
the Pat McAfee show about a month ago and he
remembered that when he came out of high school, it
was funny that he ended up with the Calves who
had the first pick. Here's Lebron during the ball drop.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
You know, during the lottery drop, Cleveland got the number
one pick. That's not I just don't think that was
just keep Lebron home, you know what, Patrick going to
the Knicks, you know, Darrin Rose to the understand Simon Gosham,
(23:12):
you know, so you know it's I had to make
sure that, you know, I had to do my part.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Now, you know, when you think about it, I could
see where one would suggest that they they may have
wanted this to happen and wield it to happen and
manifested it. Fred for Lebron, Akron kid Akron, Ohio's keep
him in Cleveland and Derek Rose right Chicago kids staying
(23:51):
in Chicago. You know, stranger thing, is it?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Happened. I should say one thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I will say, so the year that Lebron was taking
first overall, the Cavaliers actually at the best odds of
any team in the lottery to get a little kid,
and the Sun picked right. So it was very much
different than this situation. For Dallas, they had a twenty
two and a half percent chance of winning the lottery,
greater than anybody else because they have the worst record
the year before.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Kevin, do you think this thing is uh rigged?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, it's ridiculous. It's a convenient narrative for people to
throw out there.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But no, yeah, there's a there media member.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They started doing this. I think over the last ten years,
members of the media go back when the actual lottery
is happening with the thousands of balls or however many
they are for full transparency, so they can't it's not
just a frozen envelope theory. Even back in the day
with David Stern and Patrick Ewing, so there there are
a number of people who are actually watching the lottery
happen live in real time. One thing I think that
(24:50):
would help greatly, and I still don't know why the
NBA doesn't do it. If you don't want to do
it live, you think it takes too much time. Fine,
take record the actual lottery itself and the put it
up on your YouTube page or something afterwards, so people
can actually watch exactly how it happened. So that can
really dispel any notions of any conspiracy. But there's actual people,
media members who are live in person watching the lottery
(25:11):
happen to make sure that none of these theories sprout up.
And yet they still sprout up anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So that's a good point first. And Mark mcdeina was
one of those people a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You're right, yeah, And they lock in the room and
they you going there at one o'clock and you can't
use your phone talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
They take your phones away.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right, so you're locked in a room and you can't
come out.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
How many how many people are doing how many media
members are allowed in there?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Did they have in there? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And then and the purpose is what So there's nothing
like like we're talking about right now, there's no funny business.
It's it's like they got outside witnesses to see these
balls being juggled and picked the right way.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's exactly why they do it. But I think Kevin,
that's brilliant. The minute the TV broadcast is over, put
it up on your YouTube page. The whole thing, however
long takes, and it really doesn't take very long.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Put it up there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Let everybody sit back and watch it when it's all done.
That's a really smart idea. They should do that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And it's all fourteen media members, by the way, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Okay, Well, who go back for a couple of times
and like, obviously, you know, Wemby was consensus obviously number one. Uh,
you know, Cooper flag will be this year, you know,
going back to the Patrick Ewing, I mean, Jordan wasn't
even the first pick. It was Elijah one was right, right, yep,
(26:35):
But that the the consistent number one pick went to
a place that was oh that was a little shady
that that couldn't have happened naturally. Can you remember more
or any other than you know, you know, everybody said Wemby.
It would be a perfect matchup with Popovich right in
(26:58):
San Antonio because he's had Tim Dunk and he said
David Robinson, he knows how to handle the bigs and
he's a great coach and should be there. But that
didn't throw off conspiracy theories and say, oh they rigged that.
I'm trying to think back, was Zion, right? Zion was
a consensus number one.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
He was definitely Yeah, him going to New Orleans? Was
that like some conspiracy you think?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
No, No, I mean the only way I think I
can think of the most popular one as the Patrick
Ewing and that was all the way back in the eighties.
Since then, I can't really think of it.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
In New York. Yeah, to the Knicks, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's the most popular one that people try to throw
out there. That was the frozen envelope theory.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, yeah, we want we want Patrick Ewing and the
big Apple in the big city and and bring back
the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I just again, I don't buy the conspiracy, but I'll
say this, awfully lucky for the Mavericks. I don't buy
the conspiracy, but we lucky. Who knew? Who would I
thunk that? At one o'clock, Jerry Harriston Junior will join
the show. You know, we talked about it what earlier
(28:14):
in the week, or yeah, we talked about it yesterday. Okay,
what really happened when the Dodgers celebrated in the pool
in Arizona. What really happened there? Well, we're going to
ask Jerry that question, and two o'clock we'll get into
the NBA with Assualty a Adam Auslin.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Today's Afternoon Delight is Hang It On by Blake Shelton
and Gwen Stefani. This song appears on Shelton's new album,
entitled A Recreational Use Only, which dropped last week. We're
talking about the creative process when making a song with
(28:55):
his wife. Shelton said, we lived together, so we walk
around the house singing these songs all the time, and
we have months to talk about. Hey, maybe you jump
on that part, et cetera. By the time we get
to the studio, we're normally really prepared. Again, Today's Afternoon
Delight is Hanging On by Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
All right, and now.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
From the court to the court room with Jacob and Ronnie. Okay,
now are weekly chat with a good friend Jacob and
Ronnie and Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Good afternoon?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How are you guys doing well?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Jacob doing well? Doing all right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I have a question off Tom. I've never asked you
this before, but I was thinking about it in the break.
What is the weirdest case that you have ever been
involved in?
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, so I've had a few, I uh to pop
in my mind. One weird case is that I had
had a young lady who reached out to us and
said that she had suffered a slip and fall at
Cheesecake Factory. And that is not so odd, even though
(30:18):
Cheesecake Factory their floors are always very slippery. When we
asked her what kind of shoes she was wearing, she
said she was wearing these heels, and there was those
very thick, you know, front, very platform heels, and Cheescake
Factory denied the claim, saying that no, she never fell here.
(30:38):
So we have to find a witness, and the witness
was the individual that she was out to dinner with.
And when we wanted to get the person she was
out to dinner with to testify, he wouldn't testify. And
it took us about a year and a half to
two years to find out that not only were they
(30:59):
not husband and wife, but the gentleman was having an
affair with her. For that reason, he could not testify,
and it became a it went from a slip and
fall case to you know, us having to try to
figure out what's the best route to go forward, you know,
(31:22):
not to unfortunately ruin people's lives. And you know, it
ended up well at the end of the day because
I think she used whatever type of method in order
to make sure that he does end up testifying and
writing and he never had to come to a deposition.
(31:44):
But that was a very weird one. And I have
another one. You want to hear another one?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, but first did those two wind up together?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Not even close? But he definitely, he definitely ended up
making sure that she got paid and she got paid
really really well, so you know that that's fixed in
my mind. And another one was, unfortunately, you know, a
lady who had claimed that her you know, breast implants
had popped during a you know, an auto accident, and
(32:20):
I didn't know much about you know, uh implants and
plastic surgery and all of those things, and uh, you know,
we have to learn a lot about that and through
the process got a real understanding about why she got
her implants and having to try to get the plastic
(32:42):
surgeon who did the implants to testify, And you know,
I have a lot of respect for doctors, but sometimes,
you know, they're a little bit difficult to deal with,
especially in the plastic surgery part of the world. So
there was a lot of psychology and psychiatry we have
to do in order to be able to, you know,
(33:02):
get that particular plastic surgeon, you know, to testify for us,
because he was a very well known plastic surgeon who
was on TV at that time, and you know, I
don't know if he necessarily wanted to be involved in
such a case. So I deal with weird cases all
the time, but those two, you know, stand out in
my mind just because of the fact that you have
(33:25):
to deal with a lot of outside forces in order
to prove our case, and that's not always easy when
they don't have a vested interests in the case. But
there's such an integral part of your case.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did the plastic surgeon testify.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
He finally did. Yes, he finally did after you know,
he found out that he can have permission in order
to use that as part of his marketing, and he
ended up using it as part of his marketing. So
of course, you know, it was basically a give and
take but it was just just crazy because I mean,
(34:02):
you know, you hear that professionals, even sometimes attorneys or doctors,
they have this God complex and it's very difficult to
deal with people who you know, put themselves in front
of their client their patients. And you know, I remember
that very clearly because I had to take the guy
out to lunch at these three different times and you know,
(34:24):
have him understand why this was so important for this
lady who had spent every penny of her savings for
you know, a couple of years in order to get
all of these procedures at his office. And the least
he could do right now is just give us an
expert opinion on how you know such an accident could
have caused this. And you know, obviously, being who he was,
(34:45):
his testimony would have been very key because of his
credibility was very high. So it ended up it ended
up well. But again, you know, we have to go
through a lot of you know, work, even for the
most basic aspects of cases that you never think, you know,
would require the type of effort that we put in.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, uh interesting. I'm sure if we give you time,
you come up with ten other cases that are probably
strange and weird to most people.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Another thing that's not strange, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We talked about this yesterday is that Bill Plashki wrote
that in order for the Lakers to be contenders going forward,
they're going to have to trade, as painful as it
may be, trade Austin Reeves.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You what do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And would you trade Austin Reeves to get a quality
big in here?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
He was part of the package.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
So that's crazy because I think this con you know,
this concept of Austin Reeves being traded has caught so much,
you know, it's gotten a lot of speed in the
past couple of days, and I'm reading about it all
over the place, and I think one of the things
that I read was the fact that, you know, the
(36:02):
Lakers can only pay him twenty million, but if he
opts out, he can go into the open market and
get upwards of forty million. So I think if if
the Lakers can't come up with a way to keep him,
then obviously you don't want to lose him in the
open market for nothing. I'm not one that is looking
(36:25):
at Austin's playoff performance as a way to evaluate him.
I think he's been great for the Lakers. I think
he's been great for the team. Obviously the playoffs were
not you know, was not great for him. But it's
a little difficult for me because it just depends what
type of the big you're getting back for him, because
(36:47):
I do believe you're losing a lot of firepower and
scoring by, you know, by losing him. And I think
the big that Luca needs is somebody who can play
well off of, you know, the dunk position on the court.
And I don't necessarily think that you have to get
a superstar to do that. I think you just got
(37:08):
to get a young, active, you know, center or two
that can do the work because you know, Luca is great,
but he has to have the ball, and you know,
it just depends on who you bring on board. So
long answer, I think it all depends on who. You know,
you would need to trade Austin for Jacob.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Our listeners love and you offer serious advice about the
law and how about this, what are your rights if
you're involved in an accident but you're a passenger?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, so you know we've talked about passengers and used
to talk a lot more about them, you know, in
the past, because a lot of people who were passengers
in an uber would get injured, and most of the
time they would just sit and stay in the car
while the uber driver the lyft driver would get out
exchange information with the other party, and usually they would
(38:04):
be the one that does. You know, don't have too
much information. But as a passenger, you're always fault free
and you have the highest amount of right, and whether
that means you recover from the insurance company of the
vehicle you're in if the driver of your car was
at fault, or if you're recovering from the opposite party
because the other party was at fault. But one of
(38:26):
the things that we have to remember is that if
you're even a passenger in a vehicle with a friend,
you can recover. But if you're a passenger in a
vehicle maybe with your own relative, maybe your father's driving,
your mother's driving, and they're at fault, you're not able
to recover from that passenger being a passenger from that
(38:49):
vehicle if you live in the same household, so you know,
someone's kid or someone's wife cannot sue their own husband
or recover from their own husband when they're a passenger.
But as a passenger and the majority of the other situations,
you have the highest amount of protection and no matter
(39:11):
who's that fault, you can make a recovery. That's why
as passengers, I always encourage our listeners to be proactive,
take action. Don't just sit there. Whatever information is being
exchanged between your driver and the other party, ask for
a copy of it. Take a picture of both vehicles,
(39:31):
because sometimes you're the one who gets stuck in the middle.
If your driver says it's the other person's fault and
the other person says it's your driver's fault, the one
thing you have going for you that is not your fault,
and you will make a recovery. Whether it's fifty percent
from the other side and fifty percent from the vehicle
you were in, one hundred percent one side and the other.
No matter what happens, you stand to make a recovery.
(39:52):
And that's the reason that you need to make sure
that you are active, very active and aggressive in terms
of protecting your rights.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The passenger outstanding, good advice, Jacob, and we appreciate you
checking in again.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
All right, when we come back top of the hour,
Jerry Hairston Junior joined us. We'll talk some Dodgers. We'll
find out what happened in the pool in Arizona. At
least i'll ask the question. Rokie Sazaki's velocity is down.
We'll get into that as well.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!