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May 15, 2025 46 mins
History has shown that if you walk Ohtani, Mookie will make you pay - and he did it again last night against the A's. Hye-seong Kim remained hot with an infield single and his first big league homerun last night which presents an interesting question - if he remains with the big league team, who is the most likely player to be traded or DFA'd? Fred and Rodney speculate that it could be another tenured fan favorite.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy LA Sports. We've got a three
hour show today. Bennie Bond signor with the schedule release
will jump on during the one o'clock hour. New King's GM.
Ken Holland, who was just introduced to the media, will
be on the program at two. And Dan Weik is
at the NBA Combine and he will jump on here

(00:21):
at twelve twenty. Rodney, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Fred, How
are you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing well. All is good.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
We move forward and I do want to start with this.
Tonight is yet another show. Heyo, Tony Bobblehead night at
the stadium. Everybody gets excited about show. Heyo, Tony Bobbleheads.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
David Batse, Yeah yes. David Vatse sent out a tweet.
Please please, you do not have to go and line up.
Apparently there are enough for everyone that goes in. Do
not show up up five hours early and start lining up.

(01:04):
It is not necessary. The last time they gave away, oh,
everybody gets it. Everybody gets one. Well, yeah you got
a ticket. If you got it, you're good now. The
last time they gave away an Otani bobblehead. They said,
you do not have to line up. It's not like
the first time. You do not have to line up,

(01:24):
and by twelve thirty people were ready to go into
the stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Don't don't They don't trust it. They don't trust it.
Are you gonna tell me not to line up now?
I'm gonna miss out and I'm not gonna go through that,
So I'd rather be here early and just play it safe.
Then listen to what everybody is telling me that I
don't have to get there early. As long as I
have a ticket, I'm gonna get the bibblehead. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
If you remember the first time they did this, we
took calls from people in line. We're concerned about whether
or not they would get one. But then it happened
a second time and people lined up again when they
didn't need to line up. You do not have to
line up today. You do not have to be there
ten minutes from now. You don't have to show up early,

(02:14):
and we were asked for it.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
It don't matter how many times you say it. If
you were still gonna get there early.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, if you're someone who's planning on going early, you
should call us. You should call us and we'll have
a little therapy session for you here on the air,
because you don't need to get there early, five hours early.
You don't have to do that today. All right there, Now,
last night's game the key moment, the key moment, and
it's kind of you know, my second law.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Used to it, huh, don't need to panic anymore, right, No.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
There's no panic. My sister in law used to play
a game with me. Now, it was a bit on
the dark side. It was called pick a Death, and
the game would be played where because yeah, what would
you rather do? Thought of an airplane or have you
know somebody throw a thousand knives at you? Yes, it
was a little dark.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I didn't really participate, but I just laughed hysterically as
she would ask those questions. Picic a death, Well that's
kind of like what happened last night at the stadium.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Pick a death?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
How do you want to get it? Otani comes up,
all right, well, we're gonna walk him, walk them, walk them,
no problem, walk them, Mookie Bam done. People seem to
forget that Mooki Bets is an MVP. Yes, I don't

(03:40):
know why. In baseball people don't remember that. Perhaps they
see the sight of Otani and they are so overwhelmed
by his massive presence that they believe, we don't want
to pitch to that guy, no matter what, no matter what,
not that guy. Okay, well then you can pitch to
this one. No, he's not as tall as Otani, but

(04:03):
i'll tell you what, he can hit as well. He's
not a slouch. He's not some guy. He's not a jag,
just another guy. He's Mookie Bets. So if you're walking Otani,
you've made the decision. We're not gonna let him beat us. Okay,
then let him beat you. They let the next guy

(04:26):
beat you, by the way. I mean, we've seen that movie.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
We've seen a movie and it doesn't I mean, it
doesn't matter the guy right, And sometimes I get it.
It's most of the time it's a baseball move. It's
it's the smart baseball move. Like if you're you know,
you gotta run her on third base, or you gotta
run her on second base, and you got to open

(04:50):
first base in less than two outs, then it makes
sense to walk the guy so you can get yourself
in a position to get a double play. And get
out of the inning. That's a baseball move, and that's
a smart baseball play and so but oftentimes, as a hitter,

(05:13):
no matter if it's the right baseball move, you feel slighted,
You feel like they don't respect me, you feel disrespected
regardless of the situation. Like, look, we're playing for a
double play to get out of this inning, and it
doesn't matter who's at the plate, We're gonna walk them
because we've seen it before. We saw it where they
walked Mooki and Freddie made them pay. I was gonna

(05:34):
say that.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, So if you get if you think, okay, well
maybe we just decided to walk everybody, well walk o
Tanni and oh god, well we can't have Mookie hit. Fine,
we'll walk him to We'll do something so insane, but
we're not gonna face either one of those guys. O.
There's Freddie Freeman. Now he's standing there.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You really, even in a baseball move, you are really
rolling the dice if you're trying to walk those guys
at the top of the Dodger lineup.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, And it depends right, if it's early in the game,
late in the game, depending on which situation is remember,
you know, the Yankees did it right. They walked Mooki
open first base. They walk Mooki and Freddie hits the
Grand Slam to win it in Game one. The right
move from a baseball standpoint, it's the right move, and

(06:26):
so you'd rather get in a situation where you can
turn a double play. But again, the Dodgers at the
top of that lineup got so many guys that can
make you pay that it really doesn't matter. I mean,
the worst case I've ever I ever saw at the
big league level is them walking Barry Bonds with the
bases loaded.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I remember that.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, now, now that gets absurd, right, Like, okay, well,
you rather give up a give them a free run
than the possibility of giving up a Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's insane. It's insane.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, at that point, it gets really insane because
if that's the case, then what are you doing in
the big league? Fred, You shouldn't be in the big
leagues if you can't, if you don't have confidence in
any of your guys in those kind of moments, then
what's the guy doing on the team, what's he doing there? So, yeah,
I man, I get it, but it's a again. Like

(07:25):
I said, regardless of the situation or it's a smart play,
you feel disrespected. And everybody that's you know, been walked
and then and they're the next hitter feels disrespected. And
there's an extra level of when you get to the
place like just let me give them one. Oh they
disrespected me. Oh they don't know? Oh so so oh

(07:46):
Toni's that much better than me? Huns, you think I'm
chopped livering. Okay, I'm gonna show you chomp liver. You
know you know that's going through Mookie's mind or Freddie's
mind when they do that to them. You can just
look on their faces. Okay, okay, your sons of bitches
walking him to get to me. Huh wait, did they
get hold of me?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Pick a death? How do you want it? How do
you want it? You're gonna get it. It's just a
question of how you want it. Last night Mookie gave
it to him. Uh. Also in the game, Kim hit
his first major league home run. Got that guy is
so much fun to watch. And we've got the call

(08:28):
from Korean Baseball.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Good aboudy, don't us tell you man kiz.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
On it up. They weren't excited.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Were they his son, Kim, I'll tell you he is
just the best to watch. I don't know what it
is about that guy.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
It's the comment you going by the commet now the
comed nick name, yeah, the comic.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
All right, all right, the commt is so much fun
to watch. And he hit it, and he was the
happiest guy in the world. He was, you know what,
you know what he looks like. He just looks like
a kid having a good time.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Looks like a twelve year old kid in a little league.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, just having fun, smiles, is happy.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
He is though you said, he's so fun to watch,
but he is you you when he's out there, I
don't care if it's you know, either have to play
it on the basis, but even in the field, it's
hard to take your eyes off of him, you know,
your eyes automatically go to him and see what he's
doing before the pitch, after the pitch. And the thing
I love about it, and we saw a glimpse of

(09:40):
this and in spring training when he first got here,
is that, like you mentioned, he looks like a kid
out there, because I think that's what he feels like.
He feels like I'm a kid in the candy store
and he's having so much fun. Remember that he got
it the chance going at spring training with the when
they were taking ground balls first or second, they were

(10:01):
getting in the let's go, Dodgers, Let's go, and they
were doing it, and then he got the whole team
doing it. And you know, he's just he's he's infectious,
I think with his smile, his energy and what he
brings to the table. And I'm gonna tell you, you know,
if he keeps it up. And now I don't know
if he's gonna stay this hot, right because the big
question is whether or not he could hit big league pitching.

(10:21):
You know, we always talk about that second goal around,
that third goal around. They're gonna they're gonna get a
book on him. But come September October, that is a
tremendous weapon that the Dodgers have. And who better to
know about what you can do on the base pass
as a as a weapon than Dave Roberts.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, but I think that brings up an interesting point.
I want you to think about this for a second.
He's here now because obviously there are guys Hurt h
Taylor Hernandez and Tommy Edmond well, here's Dave Roberts talking
about what will happen when they return.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think that we wanted to get him here to
cut his chin, get his feet wet, and see what
the big leaves is about, get familiar, and yeah, once
Tommy and Tayl come back, there's some decisions to be made.
But yeah, performance and how he's playing certainly helps his case.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, he being Kim. So I'm glad you brought
that up, Rodney, because I started thinking about something, and
really it was unthinkable before yesterday they got rid of
Austin Barnes. Yeah, I did not. David Vassy didn't see it.
Nobody saw it coming. I guess when you really analytically
look at it. Yeah, it was time for a change,

(11:37):
but nobody saw that coming. So now we have Kim
and he's playing well. Valid point. What's going to be
like the second time around, the third time around?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Is he gonna go to a slump tonight? We don't know.
But if we assume that things are going to continue
kind of like they are, there could be a little
drop off. But he's all of a sudden a solid
guy that you can count on.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, what happens.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
What happens If he's a guy they want to keep
on the big league roster, what do they do? I mean,
Dave Roberts kind of, you know, said, well, we'll worry
about that when we get there. But the thing we
know about the Dodgers is if they worry about things
long before they get there, what do you think they'd do?

(12:26):
Because there was a shot during the game last night.
I saw it. It was very brief and it really
was inconsequential, but it was a shot at Chris Taylor
in the dugout kind of hanging out by the railing,
and it just caught him and everybody can't you know,
you never know when you're going to be on camera.
But watching him, he had his head down. I don't know,

(12:48):
maybe he's looking at his shoe where he dropped something,
But still is that that camera shot came on the screen?
I thought, if Kim continues to play well and now
we know the Dodgers are not as to making a
decision and a very difficult one during the season, as
they did with Austin Barnes, do you think they would
make that kind of decision with Chris Taylor?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Hmm? I don't. I don't. I don't think so because
I think he's in a different situation as well. But
I don't think so because, first of all, he's starting
to come around a little bit. Chris Taylor, you know,

(13:31):
starting to hit the ball. He was in a tremendous
slump obviously, but he's starting to hit the ball again,
much like Confordo, He's starting to come around. But I
think he's just from a from a versatility standpoint, he's
extremely valuable now, I know, you know, Kim can play
both infield and outfield. And there's there were talking. I mean,

(13:52):
there's already been talk like when Tommy Edmund comes back,
Edmund's going to go to second base and he goes
to center field or Pies goes somewhere. But they're going
to try to find spots for him. So they're talking
like they you know, already, like he's going to stay
up and be on this team going forward. But I
just don't I don't feel like they're they're ready to

(14:13):
get or be done with Chris Taylor, you know, I mean,
because what are their options with him? I mean, you're
making fifteen large a year, what he's on the last
year of this that deal that he's saying in twenty two. Yeah,
so I don't know what your options are other than yeah,

(14:36):
that's it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Those are your options. You dfam or you keep them.
Those are your only two choices. Austin Barnes made three
million dollars a year, but what were the choices? You
dfam or you keep them. I mean, those are the choices.
And I'm just saying, and we love Chris Taylor. I
think everybody loves Chris Taylor. That's not the issue here.

(14:57):
And it's kind of even hard to say these things.
But after what we saw happened yesterday, if Kim sticks
around and they let him play, somebody does.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Have to go. Yeah, somebody's got to go, because you
have Mickey Rojas and you have Key k Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
So someone's got to go. If Kim performs well, Rodney, doesn't,
he kind of become Chris Taylor.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Kind of, you know, a younger not as cease in
version of it of Chris Taylor. And then the other thing,
given given the injuries to the picking staff, you can't
afford to lose. You gotta keep as many pictures as
possible because they've been dropping like flies. So you don't
want to be shorthanded on that side of it, you know,

(15:54):
meaning you know, get rid of one of those guys
or you know, someone of those guys back down. But
I I don't know. I don't know, because isn't isn't
James Outman up right now too?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now he's he's he's up with the team though, right, yeah,
but he's done.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, so he would be he would go to make
the room when when Edmund comes back, right, and then
go who goes to say Oscar's coming back to Yes?
So who goes for you one more? Yeah? Yeah? And
a picture? Is it a picture? Can they afford that?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
No?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
With the way the staff is going now.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And the thing about James Outman, I mean, he he
is done and that's really sad because he came up
and he was on fire when he started. Everybody loved
him and I think everybody still does. But I mean
he's in like sixty seven.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
And that's not going to get it done. That that
is not going to cut it by any stretch of
the imagination. You know, you'll sit with a guy like
Max Muncy, Okay, well, you know he can't hit, and
he will eventually, but James Outman's like sixty four, oh
sixty seven. That's not going to work. That is not

(17:07):
going to work. And this is probably his best shot
now to show the Dodgers or anybody else in Major
League Baseball. I'm good because I won't be a place
for him here. But he is just he is. He
is destroying his stock because he's not hitting. Yeah, I mean,

(17:28):
it's dwayne, He's not.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
And he's not going to get the opportunities, you know,
say like Michael confordle how they stuck with him right
and just kept riding him and kept him in the
lineup to get him more and more at bats, to
get there to figure out if he can get past this,
this this slump that he was in. He's slowly, I
mean slowly now he's bursting out of the seams. But

(17:52):
but it does feel like they've given James Outman a
lot of opportunities to succeed in the last couple of years,
in a lot of moments. And like you said, he
burst on the scene, was hot, and then they saw
him at the second time around and they caught up
to him and wrote, you know, they had a book
on him then, and he struggles, and he's still struggling.
And if you can't hit and you're not playing, you're

(18:15):
not catcher or you're not the shortstop, then it's hard
to find a spot for you.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
All Right, one o'clock hour, Betty von Signor on the program.
We'll talk NFL schedule release. They always anticipated very exciting
schedule release. We'll look at the Rams and Chargers. I
think Rams have four primetime games, maybe the Chargers do
as well. All Right, we'll get into that with Vinnie.
Two o'clock excited new general manager The King's Ken Holland
joins the show. And up next the NBA combine in Chicago.

(18:48):
Dan Wiki is there looking at the young talent. We'll
talk with him, and I hear the insight about what
people thought over that draft lottery.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Oh yeah, I see Ronald. Let's go. Let's throw back
thursdaybody peak broken, talk to me.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Come on, let's do this. Let's go right to the
NBA Draft combine. We welcome on Dan Wikey and Dan
apparently has a lot of Laker gossip. So do you
have Laker gossip?

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Dan, Yeah, let's get to it. Let's where do you
want to start. Do you want to start Austin Reeves?
Do you want to talk about centers?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Hey, since we want to talk about it, since we Yeah,
he's been in the news and everybody saying trade and
trade and trade them, let's talk Austin Reeve.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Come on, Okay, Well, I don't think they're gonna trade off.
Let's start with that.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
So you don't think he's going anywhere?

Speaker 7 (19:47):
I don't. I do think, like, okay, so let's let's start.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Let's start with kind of the obvious, right, which is
so he has been among SAMs, amongst the media, like
sort of bandied about, is like this is the guy
the Lakers need to move to get their center, right,
that has been sort of the narrative that's out there.
I do not believe, and I've spoken to people that

(20:15):
would know. I do not believe the Lakers are going
to trade Austin Reeves for like an above average center.
I think they would trade him for a great center.
But I think, like, I mean, great is the word here, right,
Like I think we're talking about all star, all NBA
level centers that the Lakers feel Austin Reeves is an

(20:37):
all star level player. The numbers would support that. He's
not made an All Star team yet. But and so
if they're going to trade him, they're gonna want an
All Star level return. I don't see a version of
a trade, you know, Like I mean, they're not gonna
like they're not going to trade him for Nick Claxon.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
They're not. That's just not going to happen. They're not.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Like so so and then it gets weird, right, so
then it's like, Okay, if not intermed to Claxton, well
then who you're gonna trade them for? You? In terms
for bam Adebayo, why is Miami doing that? They have
Tyler Herrow?

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Are you gonna turn him for Jared Allen? Like? Why
is Cleveland doing that?

Speaker 6 (21:16):
They have Darris Garland, Donovan Mitchell. Like so like the
the the quote unquote like sort of all star sort
of like centerpiece like like not like just guys to
sort of fill the position, but guys that, like you
would build a roster around type centers you know, are
either unavailable or bad or bad Luca Dotachwitz And yeah,

(21:40):
I mean, and on top of that, the Lakers really
really like Austin Reeves.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Because he's really good. That's what they think.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
All right, so you're saying, realistically there is no center
available for them to trade Austin reeves for.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, not I mean not without them overpaying, you know,
like if they want to. I mean, like I'm sure
teams would have send centers to the Lakers for Austin reeves,
but like that's just not like they're they're they're not
the right centers.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Does that make sense? Red? It's like yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Know, I mean, I think and I'm gonna be writing
about this for first during the only times in the
next few days. But I mean, like there are centers
you hear about the two that the two names that
come up most in sort of trade considerations or whatever
when you talk to people around the NBA about what
they think the Lakers are gonna do or Daniel Gafford
and Nick Claxton, Like.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Those are the two names you hear the most.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
They both have their own complications, Uh, Daniel Gafford particularly
because that means that Nico Harrison and would have to
unblock Rob Plink his phone number, but like they would
have to do another trade, right, and like that has
some complications to it, right, no matter what it looks like.
I think for a fan base for ownership and all

(22:54):
of that stuff. I don't I don't think that should
be prohibitive in doing a deal, but there's work to
be done on that, I think. You know, with Nick Claxton,
he didn't have a very good season. There are concerns
I think about sort of his size in terms of
like his like halft, you know, particularly in the West,

(23:15):
when like the types of centers are gonna have to
help guard our guys like Anthony Davis, you know, Nicole a. Jokic,
up Brimston, Goon, like these are big dudes, like big
physical guys. And that's not really I mean Claxton is
you know, he's like a toothbrush kind of like Buddy's long,

(23:37):
and he block shots and the rim ruck.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
So like, you know, like that's not it's not perfect, but.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Like where it's interesting is right, like if he's the
best that's available, is that worth trading for it? And
and trading for him looks you know, probably like trading
a bunch of expiring contracts in the unprotected first round
pick the last one in your arsenal. And you know,
and and and I'm sure Brooklyn would still even a
lot more, you know, when you talk to people around

(24:04):
you know, the combine here, right, It's like, you know,
Nick Claxon was available last year at the trade deadline
and Brooklyn didn't move him. You know, they sat on it.
That that implies the asking price was high. It was
at met Maybe the price has come down a little bit,
but probably not a lot.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
So how do they get the big man Dan? How
did they get him?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
You know, obviously it's.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
The big need and that was the glaring thing in
the first round that they got bounced from is that
you know that they need a rent protection and they
need a guy that can you know, work with Luca,
you know in the lob game as well. So where
do they find him and how.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Do they get Yeah, I mean it's a really good question.
I mean I think you know, they'll watch teams, you know,
and see what happens on Draft night in terms of
you know, there's some centers that are going to come
off the board in the top ten picks, top twelve picks,
and if those teams have centers, you know, maybe there's
an opportunity for the Lakers in that sort of space.

(25:09):
I can already hear what Laker fans are saying Walker
Kessler is not available for trade. He's not like they're
not training for Walker Kessler. He's not available. It was
to the trade deadline. The people I talked to here
in Chicago have also the same thing. Nothing has changed
on that front. Now again, if you touch drafts a center,

(25:30):
maybe there's a shift in that philosophy, but like something
would need to change, and so I think you'll monitor
that stuff. You know, there are some some names in
free agency that will not overly excite you, but that
like you know, could maybe potentially be good enough. You know,

(25:51):
Quinn Capella is a player that's done some of this
stuff before. He would move to the bench in Atlanta
as they're kind of moving on to any echo Conguu,
you know, a local player from Tina here in south
of California. But I think, like, you know, that's a
name I would anticipate hearing some as like a stop

(26:13):
gap option. But yeah, no, like there isn't like a
super clean like this, like like that's why I mean
I think it kind of the roads sort of point
back to Clackston and Gafford as the things that make
the most sense today. We'll see again if there's anybody
else who becomes sort.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Of available through the draft through.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Kind of you know, a team sort of maybe needing
to move in a different direction or stuff like that.
That's sort of like, you know, now the lotteries happen.
I mean, those are some of the projections and things
that like the Lakers front offices looking at.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
What do you hear about the draft lottery? What are
people saying about how it went.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Crazy at lottery? Ever, there's a big thing.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
You know.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
I bumped into Nico Harrison and he had a big
smile on his face about it, like the yeah, you know,
like I think.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
There's been kind of jokes about like sort of like
you know, whenever you see like a Dallas executive floating around,
it's just like, you know, you still smell like champagne.
That of the thing, right, like you've just been out
drunk for two straight days in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Uh, that's been the big reaction.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
I think, you know, San Antonio at two is really
really interesting. You know, I don't think they do. I
think they have moved with like intentionally deliberate around Victor Wimbanama,
and I think this is like they can add like
again another really intentionally deliberate piece to what's become a

(27:46):
very good young core there that you know should be
ready to be very very quickly in the Western Conference.
That's that's loaded, and I think you can kind of
point to the thunder as a template for that. That
being said, it's you know, it's get to Yanas like
maybe maybe put your foot on the gas. There's been
a lot of Yanis talk here guys do and trying

(28:08):
to figure out what he's gonna do that that's been
kind of like the old like you don't want to
see the league's like on hold until these types of
things are but like that's gonna be that's a huge domino.
Whether Yanna says like yes, I want to be traded
or no, I believe in Milwaukee and I want to
stay here and be a part of this.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
That's a big name. The Tatum injury, guys, is another.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Thing that I think people expect to like have real
ripples in the league in terms of like what does
Boston do? Does Boston does Boston sort of look at
this as an opportunity they're very expensive team to shed
some salary to kind of regroup a little bit while
love Tatum recovers from the Achilles injury and maybe make
maybe make some moves Porzingis or Fords a free agent,

(29:00):
you know, true holiday like are these guys that could
be on the move.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
So there's been a lot of that chatter.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I think, like I think one of the biggest takeaways,
and we can get back to the Austin's on this
for a minute, one of the biggest takeaways about those
guys is that like building through free agency, just like
a lot of teams just don't view it as a
real option right now that all the good players signed
contract extensions, you know, like it's it's more of a
it's more of a trade driven league right now. And
how that relates to Austin Reeves is because his contract

(29:29):
is you know, just sort of is. There are rules
that limit what the Lakers can offer him in an extension.
He's going to make fourteen million dollars this year. The
most Lakers can to offer him an extension is twenty
two million dollars. He is going to get paid far
more than that on the open market, far more so
I do not anticipate him to accept. I'd be stunned

(29:51):
if he takes that extension. Stunned and what he'll enter
free agency under strict free agency, assuming he has out
of his deal at the end of next season, and
he's going to be one of the most desirable free
agents on the market. That's the reality, because there aren't
players under the age of thirty, you know that average
twenty points a game that people really like, like Austin

(30:12):
Reeves that hit free agency, they almost always just signed
the extensions. But because he was undrafted, because his contract
was on a different schedule, and there are rules that
prohibit what the Lakers going to offer an extension, you
know he's going to be He's going to like reset
the market for a lot of for a lot of things,
I think, and people need to be braced for what

(30:33):
could be a pretty hefty salary for him. All Right,
So I think a lot more than people realize.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
If he's a free agent, I'm a free agent. The
Lakers can now resign him, right with no restrictions.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, they can resign him, and they can pay him
more than anyone else.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
That's the eventage Lakers will have.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Because he's their guy.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Because he's their guy. But you know, like I mean,
are they willing to pay him?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Luca was so he'sion dollars.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
Yeah, are they willing to pay him fifty two million dollars?
You know, like that's would be his full Laker max,
I believe is something like that. It's like forty two
to another team, you know, But I think, like you
don't know what's going to happen. You hear a lot
of people talking down here, but it's like, I mean,
the contract is certainly going to be north of thirty

(31:22):
million dollars, certainly, and that's probably low just sort of
again based on circumstances and baseball people think of him,
you know, so go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, you know, I didn't mean it's switch gears will fast,
but just in terms of because you're at the combine obviously,
you know Cooper flag is. It's kind of one of
those things that comes around, you know, not too often.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
Where he feels like a sure thing.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
That's a thing where it feels like a sure thing. Absolutely.
And he's young. I mean I don't think he's nineteen yet, right,
I think.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
He's still he should be a high school senior.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, and he is that good. Who else who else
is getting the buzz in this upcoming draft?

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean Dylan Harper. People really like Dylan Harper.
That san Antonio is in a really interesting spot.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
I think people have.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
To kind of settled on Dylan Harper is the second
best prospect in this draft. But he's a guard, and
he's a playmaking guard. And the Spurs have stuff Castle
and why am I blanking? And Daron Fox? Yeah right,
you know, so you know, what, what what do the
Spurs do?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Like, can they move back? Can they like, can they do.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
They put that pick into play for a big rowing
or you know whatever. That's certainly an interesting sort of
wrinkling all of this. Like Philadelphia doesn't really need an
on ball guard. They have Tyrese Maxey, you know, and
Thereon Barren kind of a more window type of mandate

(32:56):
after a disaster season. So but yeah, Dylan Harper is
a lot of buzz, certainly. You know, people like Derrek
Queen from Maryland a lot as a big I've heard
some some people, you know, don't be surprised if his
name's called earlier than you might expect. You know, I don't.
I don't have all the names in front of me
right now. But Duke Center is a guy that, again,

(33:16):
like I think could could maybe if he's there for
teams that have already bigs in place, teams may look
at him. Is too good to pass up. And if
you don't draft or need, do you draft for just
overall talent? And if you're taking this, you know, seven
foot two, massive wings band player, maybe your center becomes
available in the trade and and you know, maybe the
Lakers can do something there. I think those are like,

(33:39):
if I was a Lakers fan, like that would be
I'm kind of an underrated option. I'd be I'd be
sort of monitoring. But look, I mean it feels like
I was like to pull back the Lakers. They need
a plan, a plan being a plan cee on this,
Like it's not going to be easy.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
It isn't. But like the he's like they but they did.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
The hard part already, right, Like they have Luka Dancic,
Like that was the hard part. Right you have Lucadoca.
It looked like the easiest part. But you have Lucadaci,
you have Austins, you have Lebron James, Like you have
the core of at least talent wise at the top
of your roster to be good enough. Now it's now,
it's filling in the right players not only around Lukadochis,
but the right type of players at JJ Reddick wants

(34:19):
and building to that sort of vision.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
And you know, when I've spoken.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
To people within the Lakers organization, I think the one
thing that I could say is there's certainly like aligned
on that stuff. Like they have like a very clear
mission statement for their offseason. Getting it done isn't going
to be easy, but I think they're confident that they'll
figure something out.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
A right, Dan, any good places you've eaten in Chicago?

Speaker 7 (34:43):
You know?

Speaker 6 (34:44):
I had a hot dog Everrigley Field last night as
a Sox fan, paying me to say, but you know,
went to kind of scoping out ahead of the Crosstown.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
I mean, yeah, everything I've eaten here is terrific.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Ga.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
I went to Gibson's.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I was at Gibson's the other night, had a nice
Newark strip, had uh after.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
I had a late night Portillo's delivery guys. I'm and
a time to be a sandwich.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
You know what's crazy here right now is it's Pope
fever in Chicago. I can't I can't express that enough,
how much people are talking about the Pope and him
being from Chicago. Him being a White Sox fan. You know,
I think the socks wasn't there, but they four and
one since since you know, he got the direct line

(35:32):
to God.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Little divine intervention, that's what it took.

Speaker 7 (35:38):
So yeah, pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
All right, Well, Dan, thanks, enjoy your day. Appreciate you
jumping on.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
All right, guys, all right, be good.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
One o'clock Vinnie Monsignor in the program NFL schedule release,
how did the Rams and Chargers do? Two o'clock? New
general manager of the King's Ken Holland joins us and
next uh oh way, mall.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Ah. Yeah, look it right, you got Fred bobbing his
head that right. Yeah. A little bit of today's throwback
Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight is Hot in Her by
Nelly Do It. This Neptune's produced track was the first

(36:23):
single off the Saint Louis native second studio album entitled Nellyville,
which was released in the spring of two thousand and two.
This was a Song was Nelly's first number one single
on the Billboard Hot one hundred charts in June of
that year, and won the Grammy Award for Best Male
Rap Solo Artists in two thousand and three. The track

(36:44):
went on to go platinum in Australia, New Zealand and
the UK, and went certified double platinum here in the
US with over two million units. Sould again Today's afternoon
Delight is Hot and here by Nelly.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let me ask you a quick question, Rodney, quick question, Yes, sir,
when you look at me, do you think my neck
is shrinking? Do you think my head is now closer
to my shoulders?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And you do? I think your neck is shrinking?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, like Walter no neck Williams of the White Sox,
the guy that really had no neck. His head was
just on top of his shoulders.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Uh huh uh huh?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Did did it appear that my neck is shrinking? I
just know myselfn't thought, oh my god, where's my neck?
Not noticeable? No? Okay, good, your collar's just bigger?

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Know what it is? No? No, I don't. I haven't
really noticed noticed notice your neck shrinking? No? Why you
woke up and look at yourself in the mirror and
you think you're you're you're turning into no neck? Fred?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, I just I saw myself and went, oh my god,
what happened to my neck? I feel as if my
head was now directly on my shoulders. But that's not true.
Obviously it is a bigger collar, and that's what got
me confused. But I thought I would ask you because
you would be honest with me.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I will let you know, Hey, fd Okay, it's like, uh,
what when Sam Jackson saw your son and he went
to bid that bighead kid, pete kid?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
What's he doing here?

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
He did not hold back? All right, I have noticed,
fred No conscious, Thank you? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Kevin, if you're there, do you even think my neck
is shrunk or no?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I have not noticed that, fred No, thank you. I'd
be the first to let you know.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
You know that, actually you would. I'm not even gonna
ask ronniecause he'll say yes.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Do you know what, Fred you read my mind? You
know I know what Fred's. I was going to say,
all of that that girth that you had around your
neck went straight to your ankles.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
You know, it has been a few years since that
has been addressed.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
And I told you what did you have elephant titus
of the ankles? Fred?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I told you it was the camera ankle. I did
not have swollen ankle.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I don't know about that, fred No.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
And I came in and shogging my ankles, And I said,
do my ankles look swollen to you? And you said no,
you showed your ankle.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
When I was in one day, I said, you put
bullets in the gun.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
When you did that, Fred shaves's legs too coming out
of there. Ronnie didn't need much boy to fire them shots.
He was doing it. He gave it to him too.
My ankles looked big to you.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, well, because he was accused. He thought I had
elephant titus or some sort of a scowling Fred.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Let it be known. I'm not the only one who
notices your thick ankles.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Okay, Ronnie, my ankles are not thick. Now you might
say I have cankles, but they're not thick. And the
other side of it is the only person that noticed
it was you and then Petros and then you guys
started on me.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's the truth. Anybody who watched the challenge kind of
picked up. You feel that way too.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
I don't think it was just the.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Two of them.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I was being nice.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
He didn't really say anything because I didn't want to
pile on, but it definitely come on.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Please yeah, yeah, you have the nerve to wear no
socks a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Fred, Kevin, did you when you watch did you really
think my ankles were swollen?

Speaker 6 (40:09):
They definitely stood out, especially when you were the real
colorful socks.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Fred, you should have just worn black socks, slimming.

Speaker 7 (40:18):
Fred.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, but I didn't have a problem. It was just
the way the camera was shot and the way I
crossed my leg.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You know, it's always others that notice.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
The problem, Fred, the overflow.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
We're trying to an intervention here for your ankle.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Fred, that was the camerangle, the overflow. Ankle overflow that
you had was the camerangle.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
The AO from the camera angle, the ankle overflow. That's
what got me. You know what I'm gonna do. No,
you know what I'm gonna do because you guys said
this and I can't believe it came up again. When
I get done, I'm gonna go get my ankles drained.
That's what I'll do. I will go and and have
someone put a needle in my ankle and drain it.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You're gonna fall over, Fred.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's gonna take about one second because they're not swollen. Ronnie,
all right, remember the other day we talked about waymo
I told you my son Jack got in Waymo in
West La Beverly Hills area. He loved it. He thought
it was great. Granted there was a problem when it
stopped right in the middle of the street at one point.
Now that was a concern, but aside from that, he
thought Weymo was terrific and Waimo is the future. Well,

(41:21):
the future is not going to be here quite so
soon because National Highway Traffic Safety Association has basically told
Waimo knock it off.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
For a while.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
You got some problems. Ooh yeah, And he said, what's
the problems the automated car it knows everything. Well, it's
crashed into gates, it's crashed into changed it's running too
obstacles in the road. Thank god, nobody was hurt. Basically,
they have twelve hundred and twelve driverless vehicles operating on

(41:55):
waymo's fifth generation automated driving software. Now, Weimo released the
software update to resolve the issue. That update has been
rolled out in all affected areas. But nonetheless, they're slowing
down a little bit here, slowing down a little bit.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
We just talked about that a couple of weeks ago
in the Waimo and well, not a couple of weeks.
This week we talked about Jack. Yeah. Yeah, and uh,
you know obviously, you know, spent a lot of time
back and forth in Arizona, and you see them all
over the place in Phoenix. So they're they're they've told
them to back off. Yeah, take them off the road.

(42:31):
Take some of them off the road. Yeah, they're they're
just not manufacturing them anymore. Oh, they're gonna make them.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
What they're doing is recalling twelve hundred vehicles due to
a software defect. They're recalling them. So I'm just saying this.
People that are in Waymo, they like way Mo.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I've said, I know how comfortable I am driving around
in a car without a driver, and nobody said I'm
the best driver. But you know those cars have no driver. Yeah,
so just be careful, make sure they have the updated
software because I don't want to crash into a chain
or something, which you know, it just feels.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Like, you know, it's driving is so instinctive. You gotta
have good as instincts. And I don't know if you
can teach that with AI. Can you teach instincts in
Gray Area?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Well, I mean AI told somebody to divorce their husband,
and they did it.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
It's true, It's true. I remember that story as a
crazy one. Yeah, what if? What if a motorcycle? You
know how the motorcycles weave in and out? You know
there's nuances that you see them. You know, you kind
of give them, you know, a little way to go,
but you don't always see them coming, and you don't
always know when they're going to weave into the lane

(43:52):
you're in right and a way mo detect that and
a way moo feel that a motorcycles you know, coming
up behind them or right beside them.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I don't know what do they use sonar?

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I mean, I'm sure they got a million censors in
the car, but but those things, you know, those guys,
it happened so instantaneously as they're trying to move and
weave through traffic that they may get clipped. And all
it takes on a motorcycle, right is just a little
bump and it's done.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, so enjoy way more. But just I would say,
you know, be careful right now, Be careful. I mean,
you don't want to think you're going to twenty fourth
Street and all of a sudden the car goes backwards
and you don't know where you're going. So they've just
got to work on this software and then all the
cars will be back on the street. Yeah, crashed into

(44:41):
gates and chains and things like that.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Would you so have you even thought of going and
jumping in whenever? I mean, like before Jack did it.
You know, it's crossed your mind a little bit since
he did it, But before that, have you even when
you see those things, you're like, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I went in the self drive Tesla with a friend
one time. He said, hey, look at this, the car
drives itself. Let's let's do it. I was terrified. We're
on the freeway, it's got to get off. It goes
across three lanes. I'm like, oh my god. And this
guy's got his heads behind his hands behind his head
and he's just looking out and laughing. Or the one

(45:22):
time the guy had one. He goes, I'm gonna drive
you to your house on Foreman. It took me to
Foreman's bar. It took me to the bar, right. I said,
this is not where I live. He goes, I put
your address in. I said, but this is not where
I live. He goes, let's try it again. The thing
drives back to where it started. We come back again,

(45:43):
went back to the bar. He put the wrong address
in there, Fred, Well, I just put I gave him
my address.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
You just put Foremans in there, and that's why he
went to the bar.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I think once it saw that name, it just went
to what it believed it was supposed to mean. I mean,
there's still some bugs here. There's still some bugs.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah, which is why I'm not getting in one.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Fritch, Amen me neither, all right. NFL schedule release. Chargers
open in Brazil against Kansas City. They have five primetime games.
I believe the Rams have four primetime games. Vinnie bon
Signor will join us.

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