May 15, 2025 • 39 mins
Vinny Bonsignore hops on to talk about the NFL schedule release. We discuss whether Pete Rose will be (or even should be) voted into the Hall of Fame now that he's eligible. The NFL is set to vote on whether its players can participate in flag football in the 2028 Olympics.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ellie continue on, Fred Rogan, Rodney, Pete AM five to
seventy LA Sports. All right, we have a PSA here
as will begin the one o'clock hour and will remind
you every hour tonight's show. Heyo Tony bobblehead. Night out
of the stadium normally means fifty bobblehead. Okay, fifty to
fifty bibblehead. It's another show, heyo, Tony bibblehead. And normally
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that means people sleep overnight there to get in line
to get their bibblehead. And the point is this, you're
getting one. David Vasse tweeted out, you don't have to
get there four hours early. You will get a bobblehead.
Do not show up early, do not line up. There
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is absolutely no reason to do it. You are wasting
your time unless you've planned to sit in your car
for four hours until they open the gate so you
can drive in, if that's how you want to have
fun afternoon. The knock yourself out by all means there
is no rush, there is no urgency. Everybody gets one.
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We're just pointing that out as a public service announcement, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But if I get one of the first hundred thread
there might be a special prize under it, so I got.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
To get there early. This is not cracker Jacks. No,
there's there's no special prize. That's not going to happen.
You'll get your babblehead three hours of the.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Building ticket if you open the you know, one of
those first two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's not true, but we could start that rumor. That
would be great. Yeah, yeah, come on, get out there.
What if you did it? Opposite said, you don't get
it in the you know, first two hundred, but if
you're one of the last five hundred to get you know,
the bobblehead, there could be something special for you. So
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you don't want to get there too early because you
don't want to get one of those early bobblehead because
it's not going to be in it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Only that prize is in the last five hundred. If
that was truly the case, could you imagine there'd be
people outside the gate and they wouldn't be fighting to
get in, they'd be fighting to stay out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'd be pushing people ahead of them, Gay, go ahead,
get in there, get in there.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So what the fight would be? People trying to shove
other ones into the stadium, like grabbing them by the
arm and throwing them through security so they could be in.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The last five hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
All right, let's bring on a man who has his
own private security detail. Our good friend, Benny bon signor Beny,
good afternoon to you.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Good afternoon, guys. And you had somebody that once covered
the Dodgers. You know they give those those hand those
giveaways or those give outs promotional nights to the media
up in the press box. And you guys know that
if you've spent any time in the press box, and
so you get each medium member gets a babblehead. These
are the type of Knights where you'll see somebody for
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the first time since maybe like opening day, and won't
see that person again until the opening round of the playoffs.
They suspecifically show up on this night to get this
bottle ahead. So keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Out those bums.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, okay, Vinny, let let's go schedule release. What do
we want to start. We'll start with the start with
the Rams. Four primetime games for the Rams and they'll
play Jacksonville in London. All right, what do you think
of the Rams schedule?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I think it's fairly manageable. You know, obviously they got
to go to Philadelphia to play the Eagles, who they
lost to in the in the playoffs. That's going to
be a fired up Rams team in that game. No
doubt they got their division. But I don't see a
whole lot of like, you know, aside from that, Aside
from that game, games that you're going, Okay, you know,
how they're going to manage that game? How are they
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going to manage this game? So I look at the
Rams schedule and I see the potential for first place
in the NFC and maybe home field advantage throughout the players,
you know, assuming everybody stays healthy. But between the good,
great team that they are and what I think is
is a fairly favorable schedule good, I think it puts
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them in a really good position to be on the
top of the heap, get a get a buy game,
and get every game in the playoffs coming through Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who they got they play the in the AFC usually
you know, they play a division out of the of
the opposing conference, whaying this year.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, they've got they play the Ravens this year. So
and that's in Baltimore. So that's it. It's they've got
the AFC North, so they got the Browns, they got
the Bengals. That'll be a you know, that'll be an
interesting game. I don't where do they play them? A
little bit further down they play the Lions, so that'll
be a good game. But it's at home. I know
a bunch of Detroit people will be there, but yes,
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exactly so they you know, they've got their They've got
like I said, they've got the Ravens and they've got
the Titans, so so yeah, I don't even see the
Bengals there. So so just to me, it's a it's
a it's a doable schedule for a team that has
aspirations of being a top dog in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Does any sport do it better than the NFL in
terms of keeping their name in the news on a
twelve month cycle.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, no, to answer your question, not at all. And
thankfully for us, that is they that is the case.
But I do want to bring something up. You know,
there's a lot of some of us in the media
and I feel like it's a it's they're they're they're
they're almost insulting the intelligence the great fans, who, by
the way, pay all of this. You know, we have
jobs because of the fans. Let's be honest about that.
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They read our stuff, they listen to us on the
radio and then watch us on TV and all that
good stuff. But there's people like, why do fans make
such a big deal out of the schedule release, you know,
and and almost like yeah, you're just cheap that that
follow along. Well, what I think people don't understand. And
they're living in Las Vegas and formerly in Los Angeles.
These are premier cities that people love to go to.
The amount of travel arrangements that were that were made yesterday,
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the amount of waiting that fans due to finalize their
travel plans from you know, booking hotels, booking airlines, getting
time off of work. It's it's hard to do and
there's planning that and money involved. So it's not just
you know, oh, you know who the the you know,
you've known for months who the opponents were going to
be a big deal. Now you get to know when
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those games are. Yeah, it is a big deal for
people that like to travel, and that's more and more
of these days. More people travel to go see their
teams playing. By the way, a lot of Raider fans
don't even live in Las Vegas. They live in Northern
California or Los Angeles, so they have to make travel
arrangements just to go, you know, and to the games
that they have tickets to as season ticket holders. So
the minu you think, oh, come on, what's the big deal.
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It really is a big deal. I just wanted to
say that I want to stand up for the fans
and say they're not down, They're not hay seeds. There's
real practical purposes of why they need to know the
information that yesterday provided.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
All right, we talked Rams. Now let's go to the Chargers.
They've got five prime time appearances Vinnie.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, uh and and well earned. And I think that
you know, they're they're a story team with a they
have a lot of stories. They got a great coach,
a great young quarterback. Uh so, so kind of for
the same reason the Rams. They deserve the national spotlight.
They they earned that by making the playoffs this year.
Right off the bat though, you know, hosting quote unquote
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uh the Kansas City Chiefs in Brazil. That's going to
be a tough game for them. And then Monday night
against the Raiders, that's that's an interesting game too. It
renews the renews the rivalry between Jim Harbaugh obviously and
Pete Carroll, so that'd be a fun game. And then
an improved Broncos team in Los Angeles Week three. So
I look at those first three games for the Chargers
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and as good as they played this year last year,
and as good as I think they're going to be
this year, that's that's some heavy lifting right there. They
get a little of a break in Week four against
the New York Giants in New York, but then it's
right back into the fray with the Commanders coming to
Los Angeles to play the Chargers. So a difficult for
five weeks for the for the Chargers, I.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And don't they travel more like by a wide margin
than any other team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
In yeah, they're going They're going to Jacksonville, They're going
to New York. They're obviously going to Brazil. That's a
that's a long haul. They play at the Titans, so yeah,
they go to Dallas to play the Cowboys. Obviously, they
got to play the Chiefs a couple of times and Denver,
so yeah, they're they're among the most traveled in terms
of miles teams in the NFL this year, So that's
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another thing that they're going to have to manage.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, let's go Pete Carroll and the Raiders. His first
year with the Raiders. How does that schedule look.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, first first game right off the bat in New England,
which that marks only the second time that Pete Carroll
will return to New England to coach against the Patriots
in New England that they have you know, a history
including the Super Bowl of him playing, you know, coaching
against his former team. Remember he was the coach in
New England from nineteen ninety seven to nineteen ninety nine.
But also it's the Raiders first game against Aush mccanniels,
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who's now uh they're former head coach, that's you know,
the offensive coordinator you know for the New England Patriots.
So an interesting first game for for the Raiders. They're
not favored in that game, so we'll see, we'll see
how they handle it. And they've got two long road
trips out of their first three weeks, uh, you know,
at New England home Monday night against the Chargers of
the game we've talked about, and then right back on
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the road to play the Washington Commanders. So you know,
I guess if you're gonna, if you're gonna maybe stub
your toe. If there's a time for the Raiders to
potentially stub their toe as they ease into Pete Carroll
and Chip Kelly the offensive coordinator, you know, playing two
tough games on the road, might as well have that
and get that out, you know, as early as possible.
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So even if they're one and two coming out of
those three games, there are still plenty of time uh
to uh, you know, to get it squared away as
they continue that transition under a new coaching staff. But
I like where I look at the Raiders schedule and
I see eight to nine wins. What they're improved offense,
improved coaching, improved talent level, Ashton genty with the possibility
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if some breaks go the right way, for nine or
ten wins. So we'll see. It's after that first couple
of weeks, it's not that difficult. There is a stretch
in December where they got to go to Houston, then
they got to go to Philadelphia. But then they end
the season against the New York Giants at home, and
the Kansas City Chiefs at home, and it would be
a pretty big deal if those last two weeks, including
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the game against the Chiefs to end it had some meeting.
It would be the first time in a long time
that the Raiders played meaningful games in December. I wouldn't
I wouldn't roll that out as a possibility.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Bennie, what's you know, since he's gotten there, meaning Pete
Carroll and then after the draft now and you mentioned Gentry,
what's the vibe when the feeling like, you know, Pete's
oldest coach in the league, but yet still probably got
the most energy of any coach in the league. What's
the vibe been so far, you know around Raider Nation
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and what's gone there? Is it a lot of excitement
for his upcoming year?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah? There is. I've been here with them for what
six years now, are going on six years, and this
feels a lot different than it has been recently, without
without question. And you know, if you if you were
wondering about Pete Carroll's you know, stamina and his energy,
we all you had to do was be out there
in rookie mini camp. And I know I'm talking about
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it was ninety eight ninety nine degrees out there, and
he's out there in full sleeves, long pants, you know,
running around, sprinting, showing DBS how to backpedal, a lot
of energy. There was a ton of energy at the practice.
It felt like a USC practice, a lot of noise,
a lot of cheering, a lot of players, you know,
being coached up. So it feels different. And I think,
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I think the way to put it besides just the
fun level that he's going to bring, we all know
that that he leads the league in that, but I
think it's the confidence level that he creates, whether it's
in the locker room, and even some national people now
are starting to take notice, like, yeah, it is Pete Carroll.
Why wouldn't that work. It's worked everywhere else for Pete Carroll.
He's kind of got a formula. He knows the type
of talent he looks like, and that was reflected in
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the draft and some of their free agent signings and
bringing in Geno Smith. There's really no reason why this
shouldn't work. And I don't remember a time where we
sat back and looked at the Raiders and saying, yeah,
this is gonna work. It's Pete Carroll or somebody like that.
They just haven't had that in a long long time.
And so I think the confidence level that that creates,
you could feel it amongst even the veteran players that
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I talked to people in the building and a lot
of people outside of the building. It just feels like
a new day and a better day for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, and that'd be great for Mark Davis. You know,
nobody cares more than he does, and he's the nicest
guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
But for whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Reason, they just can't figure it out. Maybe Pete Carroll's
had guy Benny.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, and you know, I'd be remiss not to say this.
You know, Mark felt like they were on the right
track with John Gruden. Remember that was like the year
four into that whole thing, and you know, they ended
up making the playoffs that year after he you know,
after everything that happened with the emails, and you know,
he had to he had to step aside. But but
they felt like they were they were headed in the
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right direction and it was really just a matter of
time before you know, big things started to happen. So
in that case, I think he feels like he made
the right decision. But the rug kind of got pulled
out from under him. But all the other decisions, you know,
going with a young coach like Dennis Allen, believing that
Josh McDaniels had kind of changed colors a little bit
from his experiences with the Broncos and was ready now
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to be a head coach again, and the last year
with Antonio Pierce, it was noble to give him an opportunity.
Was he ready for it? Probably not U And it
sure felt like that when you when you watch the
season play out. So he's made some decisions, I think,
like you say, with his heart in the right place,
it just hasn't worked out. But now as he sits
back with Tom Brady helping him, John Spitech, who was
a nice track record with the team that he's been with,
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UH and then also you know Pete Carroll being in charge,
I think he could sit back and say I think
this one, I think we got it right this time.
So so we'll see. I think it has a good chance.
And I think that he feels pretty good about where
things are right now.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And people are excited about Chip Kelly.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Without question, and I think they feel like you know,
when you talk, I was talking to a couple of
the young players, They're like, that's Chip Kelly over there.
You know, he still has a lot of cachet, especially
after helping lead Ohio State and probably the biggest difference
in getting their quarterback in that offense, you know, ready
to play championship level football when they needed to. He
earned a lot of points. It's Chip Kelly. And this
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is a guy that's even when he was with the
Philadelphia Eagles, you could say what you want, but they
made the playoffs one of those years. They were always
a top five offense when he was there. He knows
how to call offenses. And I feel like, you know,
he feels like and a lot of people feel like
this is his niche being an offensive coordinator and not
having all the responsibilities of picking the players and being
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a head coach and talking to the media and all that.
He could focus on running the offense. And I think
there's a lot of confidence in him as well.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I've got to be happy now with Gino Smith.
At least they have a real quarterback exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know, a guy that's that's been a top I mean,
he's he's got the six most wins since he became
a starter in twenty twenty two. He's the most accurate
quarterback in that time. I think he's got the most
fourth quarter comebacks in that stretch. And there's some pretty
good quarterbacks that have that have been started since twenty
twenty two as well. So and I don't I'll say this,
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I don't think most Raider fans understood how good Gino
Smith is. And you know, I think there's there's still
the lasting impression of him, or the impression of him
with the New York Jets. But as we look back
in retrospect, was it the Jets or was it Gino?
And their history with quarterbacks might make you think or
probably should make you think that it's more on the
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organization than it was you know Smith, because he's been
a really good quarterback kind of under the radar a
little bit with the Seattle Seahawks, and and I don't
see any reason why that's not going to pick up
right where it left off with the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
All right, then, I appreciate the time, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
All Right, have a good day, guys.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You too.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There goes our buddy Vinnie Bond Signiors.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
He was gonna, you know, he had to run Fred,
you know, getting all those alarms on his phone phone?
Was that Tom Brady calling him?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It had to be, yeah, because Tom Brady listens to everything,
of course. So we heard Vinnie mention his name and
he called him immediately. That's how that's what happened. Yeah,
that's a good point because on my phone, Kevin, do
you hear that?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Kevin? Yeah, No, it was definitely Vinnie's all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I'm not taking a rap for that. Uh, don't forget
two o'clock coming up. The new general manager of the
King's Ken Holland. So Pete Rose has been reinstated into baseball.
But should he go into the Hall of Fame. Let's
figure that out next.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Ah yeah, uh well, what what what come on? Freddy Rodney?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Pete Fred Rogan on the throw back thirsday, Leave your
worries behind, baby on the groove line, all.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So the Commissioner of Baseball, Rob manfred reinstated Pete Rose
Shoeless Joe Jackson because they were given a lifetime ban
from the game, and he said they're not alive anymore,
so the ban is removed. Fine, that's all Pete Rose wanted.
He wanted to be reinstated into the game. But but
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but yeah, but here's the thing. Just because you're reinstated
into the game, does that mean you'll go into a
Hall of Fame? Because that was the goal, that was
the dream, that's all they ever wanted. Yeah, they still
got to vote him in, right, So yeah, just because
he's back in the game, doesn't mean he's in the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, because now they have to vote,
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and the Veterans Committee would do that. And then it
brings it makes the question and if you go back
to the very beginning of all of this, first, baseball
kept Pete Rose out because he lied. He compounded what
he did at the beginning because he lied about it.
Then he finally came clean. But he did lie, he
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admitted he lied. It took a while, but he finally
admitted that. But at the core of this, he bet
on baseball, and any question of impropriety in that sense
could compromise the integrity of the game. Now be he
bet on his team, he said, any team, It doesn't matter,
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It really doesn't. You are in the game and you
are wagering on the game, and you were wagering on
your team to win. Great, But you're wagering on the game,
and that all by itself does compromise the integrity of
the game. That's why you're not allowed to bet. If
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you're playing, you can affect the outcome, would you. I
don't know, but you could.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's the thing, right, He was in a position to
affect the outcome of games, right, you know, as the
manager in so many ways, in so many ways. But
if you take him at his word, he first, like
you said, he lied, right First, it was I didn't,
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I never bet on our team, you know, And then
it came out that he did bet on his team,
only to win, though never to lose. Right, So, but
I think you're right. He kept digging himself a whole
at the whole. But I don't think they were ever
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really going to reinstate him while he was alive. And
that's the thing I was going to say that he
he it's the only thing he e or wanted, but
he wanted it when he was alive, right, you know,
he actually said I don't. I don't doesn't mean anything
when I'm dead, because it's something you want to share
with your family and your your your peers and the
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close people in your life. So it doesn't mean no
good to go in when I'm dead. You know, what
do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What do you think about his situation and should he
Should he be in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Should it be.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Separated by player coach number one? Or you know, what
he did on the field or what he did off
the field shouldn't affect him on the field and all
of his accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The concern here is what he did off the field
did have an effect on what he did on the field.
He bet on baseball, So that's a problem now strictly
from a performance standpoint. Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer,
without question, without question, and I think in this scenario
that overrides everything else, especially since he's passed. If he
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had been honest from the beginning, he would have been
back in baseball by now. By lying it made it worse,
And by lying it made you think, wait a minute,
what is he really covering up?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
If you don't tell the truth, immediately you think, well,
what else is there? What aren't you telling us?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Can we believe anything you said? So that made it worse?
I think, yeah, he should go into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I do. And maybe it's sentimental. Maybe I just thought
it was a great player, maybe because I knew him, But.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I certainly think that he was one of the great
players in the history baseball and he should be in there. Yes, yeah,
without question. Now I'll tell you this though. If you
look at the guys from Pete Rose gambling and then
the guys from the quote unquote steroid era, what's worse?
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Which one of them was worse? Well, an easy question
for me.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay, the steroid era, not just one person was doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Let's keep that in mind. Not one person. It wasn't
one person that did it. A lot of guys did it.
A few people were known for it, but a lot
of guys did it. Did it give you an unfair advantage?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, you still had to hit the ball or throw it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It didn't make you superman. If you couldn't hit, you'd
hit a thousand that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Could it help a little bit if you were really
good at what you did, probably a little more strength,
Sure it would. But a lot of guys did it,
I think, compromise it, And then you could say, well,
that compromises the integrity of the game. But it doesn't
it if you don't have a hand in the direct
come of making decisions. Yeah, it could compromise it from
the position of you know, you had a bad night
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because you didn't shoot up or Yeah. I think Brady
Anderson when he was playing for the Orioles, I think
one year he had like forty two home runs fifty
fifty it was a fifty yeah, Yeah, he had a
fifty home run. Brady anders a nice ballplayer. Fifty home runs.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And at that point I believe I kind of remember this.
He had not hit more than twenty something home runs
in a season leading up to that that one big
year that he.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Had, and he never hit fifty again. No, No, So
there you go. I think I think gambling was worse.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, without question, I do. Without question. Gambley certainly is worse.
And you every sport I think has this too. You know,
when you walk into the locker room, there is a
big poster. The first thing you see walking into the
locker room is gambling is illegal and will not be tolerated.
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And there's a whole list of things that you look
at every time you walk in the locker room. And
I think there's a mandatory or is a mandate the
location where these posters were, and so you saw it
every time you came and went from the locker room.
But you know, with the in terms of the steroid
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part of it, you know, there was a there was
widespread everything in the seventies and in the eighties, a
lot of guys were using illegal drugs to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Help them or enhance them.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And who's to say that that didn't give them an advantage.
If you were taking things to kind of get you
hyper and and and and get you quote more alert,
you know, is added unfair advantage. And what's the difference
between that and someone you know, using you know, cocaine
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or shooting up with something else or taking some of
these over the counter things that can get you hyped
up and get so much energy into you.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
What's the difference? What's the difference?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, there have been multiple guys that were you know,
being suspended and brought back and suspended and brought back.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Member Steve Howe, Member Steve how absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean I don't say it like be cruel and
say like he was a poster child, but I don't
know how many times he got suspended. And there's six,
reinstated and suspended. Yeah, definitely on the high side of five.
But again, like I mentioned the other day, there were
so many things that were given to you to help
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you get back on the field or stay on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Is that an advantage as well? I mean, it's just
and then at time, Again, I don't want to keep
beating this like a dead horse, but it was a
time where everyone was doing it and.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes, it was illegal, but they did not police it, Fred,
They really didn't. In fact, you know, we talked about it.
They promoted it. If you want to look at the
Samy soci Mark Maguire chase, that people out of people
had saved baseball or resurrected baseball. It did have an
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impact on baseball and the excitement and MLB ate it
all up and promoted it and loved it.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And these were two guys that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That pretty common knowledge that they were doing something and
we're on, you know, using steroids at the time, and
it was brushed under the rug because it enhanced Major
League Baseball at the time and at a time where
Major League Baseball needed it. So very hypocritical in a
lot of ways when it comes to things things like this,
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and then what are you going to do about team
like the Astros who got a slap on the wrist.
I mean, that's cheating, flat out from one hundred percent,
and yet they just get a slap on the wrist.
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So I mean there's a lot of hypocrisy going on.
But I'm just I think you know, to your point,
button him, button up, Pete Rose. He's number one in hits,
number one in games played on base I mean he
is you know, got the great nickname Charlie Hustle. I mean,
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he did everything when he talked about And that's the
ironic part. Red It's because we keep tucking talking about
integrity of the game, integrity of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
He played the game like it was supposed to be played.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
He he ran out every ball that he hit, every
ground ball, he ran it out the first base as
hard as he could.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He played with so much energy. He played. He was
he was an iron man and.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And played every single game and and again hustled every
single memory, ran to catch her over in the All
Star game.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It was an All Star game. Yes, so you're talking
about integrity.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's at the top of the list of how you
want to play the game. Are you how you would
teach a kid how to play the game? He's at
the top of the list. So it's ironic that you
know we're talking about integrity of the game, and yet
you know you want to see how you should play
the game.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Go put on film with Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Sorry about the rock, Sorry about the I'm sorry, I'm
just very passionate about it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
All right, two o'clock through. General Manager of the Kings
Ken Holland joins the show. Next, Here's the way you
can steal two and a half million bucks.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh yes, I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Ronald Little George Clinton, Parliament funkadelic Atomic Dog. Yeah, that
got you up out your seat when you heard this.
Come on, all right, yes we are back. Don't forget
New GM of the Kings Ken Holland will join us
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at two o'clock real quick, though, I just want to
talk about I just heard something that the NFL owners
will be voting on whether or not NFL players can
be allowed to play flag foot ball at the Olympics. Now,
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I think it's pretty cool that they're gonna even have
flag football at at the Olympics. It's kind of it
feels like one of those one of those sports that
that we play here in the world is still far
behind us in terms of football, you know, much like
much like baseball was for a while when they you know,
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introduced baseball to the Olympics. But obviously, as we've seen,
the international players are superstars and have have caught up
to you know, the US players in terms of talent.
You know, we're seeing talent from you know, Puerto Rico
and Dominican Republic and Venezuela and and and now even
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some some European players, and certainly Australia, and now obviously
the boom of the Asian players and the Asian players
in Japan and Korea. So it's it's baseball became global.
I don't know how long going to take for flag
football to catch on around the world. Obviously they play it.
But Freddie, what do you think allowing the NFL players
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to play flag football?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
The owner's going to vote on this.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You know something, I think anything you do like this
is just a way to create new revenue streams for
the individual sport. NFL guys play flag football. Okay, Now,
the NFL have flag football leagues, and flag football is
cool and everybody should play flag football. I don't think
NFL players should play flag football. I don't think so.
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They play in the National Football League. This is not
flag Oh, this will be fun. We'll go and play
a little.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Flag I don't like it. I don't. Yeah, football is
a different animal.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What about So it's you take the current out of it,
and you got former players or you know, some guys
that were cut or you know, didn't get a chance
to make their mark in the NFL. Should they be
allowed to play? Say see a guy played for years
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
If you no longer play, if you're currently in the NFL,
you should not play. If you're not in the NFL
at your business.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Simple.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
If you're not at if you're not in the NFL
right now, then you do whatever you want to do.
But if you're in the NFL, you don't play. And
I would not vote for that if I was an owner.
Guy turns his knee and he's out for the year.
Football is not like any other sport. You got, as
you say, seventeen of them, they're all really special. You
missed five of them because you turned your ankle playing
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flag football. That's not going to work.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, not worth it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Not worth it, Uh quickly, I do want to mention
this story two and a half million dollars and uh
interesting way to get it. What happened was a guy
who was driving for door Dash was able to swindle
the company out of two and a half million bucks.
Here's what he would do. He conspired with others and
what they would do. He used customer accounts to play
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high value orders and then used an employee's credential to
gain access to door dash software and manually reassigned the
orders to driver accounts that he and others controlled. He
caused the fraudulent driver accounts to report that the orders
had been delivered when they had not, manipulated door Dasher's
computer systems to pay the fraudulent driver accounts for the
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non existent deliveries.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So what was he doing. He was playing a shell game.
He was moving stord around and.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
All of a sudden people would say that that wasn't
delivered and that'd have to reimburse and it would go
right to the drivers.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And in doing that, the guy made two and a
half million bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So the reimbursement when when people complained or whatever happened,
they they called in to get reimbursed. But yet he
was the one controlling these accounts.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, he was able to make control it, so he
took the money.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Wow, pretty ingenious man. People will go through great lengths. Huh.
Two and a half millions pretty uh.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm still I'm still trying to picture how he actually
pulled this off without and getting away getting away with
two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, that that was the value of everything that he
was manipulating. They caught him, They got him. I mean
I used postmateson door dash. I think most.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
People do too. Yeah, we do too often. Play. That'd
be a hell of a meal for two and a
half million bucks.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and I'm sure it was a volume play for him, right,
because you know, you do it often and it adds up.
But plus, if you do, you know you're having orders
for six dollars or twelve dollars or whatever it is.
People aren't really paying that much attention. You look up
sometime and go, oh, who got that DoorDash? When I
get that? Oh yeah, okay, yeah for whatever you know,
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and you.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Go right past it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Now, if you there are multiple door dash for you know,
four hundred dollars door dash bill every other every three
days or every week. Then that would raise obviously a
lot of red flags. But I'm sure he kept it
out amount and probably had a formula too. Probably asked Ai,
what's a good amount to order on door Dash if
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I'm going to scam scam.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Them, and and AI with it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The correct amount if you're going to accomplish this and
do this scam would be five dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Then he would give it his AI name, It's it's Bruce.
Then he would ask Bruce, the people are so messed
up with that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Name.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It it asking the question, how can I scam door
Dash out of two and a half million dollars? Well,
thank you for asking. That's a terrific question or a
really good idea. Here's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, it's like it's crazy, and I mean it's it's.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Amazing, remarkable and yet scary at the same time. A
quick quick story before I know we got a break
here is my son, Holly and my son were going
to the game Robinson.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
My son who lives in Japan, is on break.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So he's home now and all he wants to do is,
you know, wanted to get back and go to a
Dodger game, and we were able to set it up
because his brother r J works in the clubhouse that
he gets there, he can get there early and go
watch batting practice and go into the clubhouse. And he
was so excited to speak Japanese to the Japanese players Yamamoto,
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Otani and Roki Sazaki that he but he was nervous
at the same time. So on the way to the game,
while they're driving down there, he punches up Ai and say,
what's you know, give me some good conversation when I'm
in the clubhouse talking to and he gave the names
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to talk to them about in Japanese, and Holly's filming
this the whole time, and he's having a full on
conversation with Ai about these are good topics to talk about.
You should probably ask O Tani blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah, and then go back and forth and
bring that over to Yamamoto and ask him about his
time and you know, what's he like to do off
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the field things like that, And they were having a
full on conversation like he was talking to Yamamoto or Suzaki.
And he did this all the way to the till
they got to the stadium and he was He said, man,
I felt so comfortable after that that I could go
in that clubhouse and and I use some of the
same topics, and we had some of the same dialogue. Amazing, amazing.
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It's uh, it's it's it's scary.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, I'm thinking about college. I was writing papers
all that kind of stuff now, see, and that's you know,
we don't have enough time for it now. Maybe we
do it later. But education has to change.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, education, the way the way people receive their education
has to change because the world has changed. I don't
want you to use AI. Okay, kids in fifth grade
are using AI. But that's not the way to do it. No,
what you're saying is the old way to do it.
The new way is to teach using all of the
tools available to everybody. That's how you educate. I don't
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want you using your cell phone. Well, okay, but I
use my cell phone. It's like an extension of my
body in everyday life.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I use my cell phone for a lot of things.
Right when I do this at school.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I mean it's like you're going to school to become amish.
Everybody get an oxen. It doesn't work that way now,
but a blue ox that's right. Everybody's you know, walking
around with long beards and oxen and they're calling each
other ye.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But that doesn't work that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
We have to adjust to what is today.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, all right, we're excited expecting to have the new
general manager of the Kings ken and join us after
the break
Ellie continue on, Fred Rogan, Rodney, Pete AM five to
seventy LA Sports. All right, we have a PSA here
as will begin the one o'clock hour and will remind
you every hour tonight's show. Heyo Tony bobblehead. Night out
of the stadium normally means fifty bobblehead. Okay, fifty to
fifty bibblehead. It's another show, heyo, Tony bibblehead. And normally
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that means people sleep overnight there to get in line
to get their bibblehead. And the point is this, you're
getting one. David Vasse tweeted out, you don't have to
get there four hours early. You will get a bobblehead.
Do not show up early, do not line up. There
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is absolutely no reason to do it. You are wasting
your time unless you've planned to sit in your car
for four hours until they open the gate so you
can drive in, if that's how you want to have
fun afternoon. The knock yourself out by all means there
is no rush, there is no urgency. Everybody gets one.
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We're just pointing that out as a public service announcement, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But if I get one of the first hundred thread
there might be a special prize under it, so I got.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
To get there early. This is not cracker Jacks. No,
there's there's no special prize. That's not going to happen.
You'll get your babblehead three hours of the.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Building ticket if you open the you know, one of
those first two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's not true, but we could start that rumor. That
would be great. Yeah, yeah, come on, get out there.
What if you did it? Opposite said, you don't get
it in the you know, first two hundred, but if
you're one of the last five hundred to get you know,
the bobblehead, there could be something special for you. So
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you don't want to get there too early because you
don't want to get one of those early bobblehead because
it's not going to be in it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Only that prize is in the last five hundred. If
that was truly the case, could you imagine there'd be
people outside the gate and they wouldn't be fighting to
get in, they'd be fighting to stay out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'd be pushing people ahead of them, Gay, go ahead,
get in there, get in there.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So what the fight would be? People trying to shove
other ones into the stadium, like grabbing them by the
arm and throwing them through security so they could be in.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The last five hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
All right, let's bring on a man who has his
own private security detail. Our good friend, Benny bon signor Beny,
good afternoon to you.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Good afternoon, guys. And you had somebody that once covered
the Dodgers. You know they give those those hand those
giveaways or those give outs promotional nights to the media
up in the press box. And you guys know that
if you've spent any time in the press box, and
so you get each medium member gets a babblehead. These
are the type of Knights where you'll see somebody for
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the first time since maybe like opening day, and won't
see that person again until the opening round of the playoffs.
They suspecifically show up on this night to get this
bottle ahead. So keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Out those bums.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, okay, Vinny, let let's go schedule release. What do
we want to start. We'll start with the start with
the Rams. Four primetime games for the Rams and they'll
play Jacksonville in London. All right, what do you think
of the Rams schedule?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I think it's fairly manageable. You know, obviously they got
to go to Philadelphia to play the Eagles, who they
lost to in the in the playoffs. That's going to
be a fired up Rams team in that game. No
doubt they got their division. But I don't see a
whole lot of like, you know, aside from that, Aside
from that game, games that you're going, Okay, you know,
how they're going to manage that game? How are they
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going to manage this game? So I look at the
Rams schedule and I see the potential for first place
in the NFC and maybe home field advantage throughout the players,
you know, assuming everybody stays healthy. But between the good,
great team that they are and what I think is
is a fairly favorable schedule good, I think it puts
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them in a really good position to be on the
top of the heap, get a get a buy game,
and get every game in the playoffs coming through Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Who they got they play the in the AFC usually
you know, they play a division out of the of
the opposing conference, whaying this year.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, they've got they play the Ravens this year. So
and that's in Baltimore. So that's it. It's they've got
the AFC North, so they got the Browns, they got
the Bengals. That'll be a you know, that'll be an
interesting game. I don't where do they play them? A
little bit further down they play the Lions, so that'll
be a good game. But it's at home. I know
a bunch of Detroit people will be there, but yes,
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exactly so they you know, they've got their They've got
like I said, they've got the Ravens and they've got
the Titans, so so yeah, I don't even see the
Bengals there. So so just to me, it's a it's
a it's a doable schedule for a team that has
aspirations of being a top dog in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Does any sport do it better than the NFL in
terms of keeping their name in the news on a
twelve month cycle.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, no, to answer your question, not at all. And
thankfully for us, that is they that is the case.
But I do want to bring something up. You know,
there's a lot of some of us in the media
and I feel like it's a it's they're they're they're
they're almost insulting the intelligence the great fans, who, by
the way, pay all of this. You know, we have
jobs because of the fans. Let's be honest about that.
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They read our stuff, they listen to us on the
radio and then watch us on TV and all that
good stuff. But there's people like, why do fans make
such a big deal out of the schedule release, you know,
and and almost like yeah, you're just cheap that that
follow along. Well, what I think people don't understand. And
they're living in Las Vegas and formerly in Los Angeles.
These are premier cities that people love to go to.
The amount of travel arrangements that were that were made yesterday,
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the amount of waiting that fans due to finalize their
travel plans from you know, booking hotels, booking airlines, getting
time off of work. It's it's hard to do and
there's planning that and money involved. So it's not just
you know, oh, you know who the the you know,
you've known for months who the opponents were going to
be a big deal. Now you get to know when
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those games are. Yeah, it is a big deal for
people that like to travel, and that's more and more
of these days. More people travel to go see their
teams playing. By the way, a lot of Raider fans
don't even live in Las Vegas. They live in Northern
California or Los Angeles, so they have to make travel
arrangements just to go, you know, and to the games
that they have tickets to as season ticket holders. So
the minu you think, oh, come on, what's the big deal.
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It really is a big deal. I just wanted to
say that I want to stand up for the fans
and say they're not down, They're not hay seeds. There's
real practical purposes of why they need to know the
information that yesterday provided.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
All right, we talked Rams. Now let's go to the Chargers.
They've got five prime time appearances Vinnie.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, uh and and well earned. And I think that
you know, they're they're a story team with a they
have a lot of stories. They got a great coach,
a great young quarterback. Uh so, so kind of for
the same reason the Rams. They deserve the national spotlight.
They they earned that by making the playoffs this year.
Right off the bat though, you know, hosting quote unquote
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uh the Kansas City Chiefs in Brazil. That's going to
be a tough game for them. And then Monday night
against the Raiders, that's that's an interesting game too. It
renews the renews the rivalry between Jim Harbaugh obviously and
Pete Carroll, so that'd be a fun game. And then
an improved Broncos team in Los Angeles Week three. So
I look at those first three games for the Chargers
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and as good as they played this year last year,
and as good as I think they're going to be
this year, that's that's some heavy lifting right there. They
get a little of a break in Week four against
the New York Giants in New York, but then it's
right back into the fray with the Commanders coming to
Los Angeles to play the Chargers. So a difficult for
five weeks for the for the Chargers, I.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And don't they travel more like by a wide margin
than any other team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
In yeah, they're going They're going to Jacksonville, They're going
to New York. They're obviously going to Brazil. That's a
that's a long haul. They play at the Titans, so yeah,
they go to Dallas to play the Cowboys. Obviously, they
got to play the Chiefs a couple of times and Denver,
so yeah, they're they're among the most traveled in terms
of miles teams in the NFL this year, So that's
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another thing that they're going to have to manage.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, let's go Pete Carroll and the Raiders. His first
year with the Raiders. How does that schedule look.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, first first game right off the bat in New England,
which that marks only the second time that Pete Carroll
will return to New England to coach against the Patriots
in New England that they have you know, a history
including the Super Bowl of him playing, you know, coaching
against his former team. Remember he was the coach in
New England from nineteen ninety seven to nineteen ninety nine.
But also it's the Raiders first game against Aush mccanniels,
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who's now uh they're former head coach, that's you know,
the offensive coordinator you know for the New England Patriots.
So an interesting first game for for the Raiders. They're
not favored in that game, so we'll see, we'll see
how they handle it. And they've got two long road
trips out of their first three weeks, uh, you know,
at New England home Monday night against the Chargers of
the game we've talked about, and then right back on
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the road to play the Washington Commanders. So you know,
I guess if you're gonna, if you're gonna maybe stub
your toe. If there's a time for the Raiders to
potentially stub their toe as they ease into Pete Carroll
and Chip Kelly the offensive coordinator, you know, playing two
tough games on the road, might as well have that
and get that out, you know, as early as possible.
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So even if they're one and two coming out of
those three games, there are still plenty of time uh
to uh, you know, to get it squared away as
they continue that transition under a new coaching staff. But
I like where I look at the Raiders schedule and
I see eight to nine wins. What they're improved offense,
improved coaching, improved talent level, Ashton genty with the possibility
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if some breaks go the right way, for nine or
ten wins. So we'll see. It's after that first couple
of weeks, it's not that difficult. There is a stretch
in December where they got to go to Houston, then
they got to go to Philadelphia. But then they end
the season against the New York Giants at home, and
the Kansas City Chiefs at home, and it would be
a pretty big deal if those last two weeks, including
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the game against the Chiefs to end it had some meeting.
It would be the first time in a long time
that the Raiders played meaningful games in December. I wouldn't
I wouldn't roll that out as a possibility.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Bennie, what's you know, since he's gotten there, meaning Pete
Carroll and then after the draft now and you mentioned Gentry,
what's the vibe when the feeling like, you know, Pete's
oldest coach in the league, but yet still probably got
the most energy of any coach in the league. What's
the vibe been so far, you know around Raider Nation
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and what's gone there? Is it a lot of excitement
for his upcoming year?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah? There is. I've been here with them for what
six years now, are going on six years, and this
feels a lot different than it has been recently, without
without question. And you know, if you if you were
wondering about Pete Carroll's you know, stamina and his energy,
we all you had to do was be out there
in rookie mini camp. And I know I'm talking about
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it was ninety eight ninety nine degrees out there, and
he's out there in full sleeves, long pants, you know,
running around, sprinting, showing DBS how to backpedal, a lot
of energy. There was a ton of energy at the practice.
It felt like a USC practice, a lot of noise,
a lot of cheering, a lot of players, you know,
being coached up. So it feels different. And I think,
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I think the way to put it besides just the
fun level that he's going to bring, we all know
that that he leads the league in that, but I
think it's the confidence level that he creates, whether it's
in the locker room, and even some national people now
are starting to take notice, like, yeah, it is Pete Carroll.
Why wouldn't that work. It's worked everywhere else for Pete Carroll.
He's kind of got a formula. He knows the type
of talent he looks like, and that was reflected in
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the draft and some of their free agent signings and
bringing in Geno Smith. There's really no reason why this
shouldn't work. And I don't remember a time where we
sat back and looked at the Raiders and saying, yeah,
this is gonna work. It's Pete Carroll or somebody like that.
They just haven't had that in a long long time.
And so I think the confidence level that that creates,
you could feel it amongst even the veteran players that
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I talked to people in the building and a lot
of people outside of the building. It just feels like
a new day and a better day for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, and that'd be great for Mark Davis. You know,
nobody cares more than he does, and he's the nicest
guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
But for whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Reason, they just can't figure it out. Maybe Pete Carroll's
had guy Benny.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, and you know, I'd be remiss not to say this.
You know, Mark felt like they were on the right
track with John Gruden. Remember that was like the year
four into that whole thing, and you know, they ended
up making the playoffs that year after he you know,
after everything that happened with the emails, and you know,
he had to he had to step aside. But but
they felt like they were they were headed in the
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right direction and it was really just a matter of
time before you know, big things started to happen. So
in that case, I think he feels like he made
the right decision. But the rug kind of got pulled
out from under him. But all the other decisions, you know,
going with a young coach like Dennis Allen, believing that
Josh McDaniels had kind of changed colors a little bit
from his experiences with the Broncos and was ready now
(13:32):
to be a head coach again, and the last year
with Antonio Pierce, it was noble to give him an opportunity.
Was he ready for it? Probably not U And it
sure felt like that when you when you watch the
season play out. So he's made some decisions, I think,
like you say, with his heart in the right place,
it just hasn't worked out. But now as he sits
back with Tom Brady helping him, John Spitech, who was
a nice track record with the team that he's been with,
(13:54):
UH and then also you know Pete Carroll being in charge,
I think he could sit back and say I think
this one, I think we got it right this time.
So so we'll see. I think it has a good chance.
And I think that he feels pretty good about where
things are right now.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And people are excited about Chip Kelly.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Without question, and I think they feel like you know,
when you talk, I was talking to a couple of
the young players, They're like, that's Chip Kelly over there.
You know, he still has a lot of cachet, especially
after helping lead Ohio State and probably the biggest difference
in getting their quarterback in that offense, you know, ready
to play championship level football when they needed to. He
earned a lot of points. It's Chip Kelly. And this
(14:31):
is a guy that's even when he was with the
Philadelphia Eagles, you could say what you want, but they
made the playoffs one of those years. They were always
a top five offense when he was there. He knows
how to call offenses. And I feel like, you know,
he feels like and a lot of people feel like
this is his niche being an offensive coordinator and not
having all the responsibilities of picking the players and being
(14:52):
a head coach and talking to the media and all that.
He could focus on running the offense. And I think
there's a lot of confidence in him as well.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I've got to be happy now with Gino Smith.
At least they have a real quarterback exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know, a guy that's that's been a top I mean,
he's he's got the six most wins since he became
a starter in twenty twenty two. He's the most accurate
quarterback in that time. I think he's got the most
fourth quarter comebacks in that stretch. And there's some pretty
good quarterbacks that have that have been started since twenty
twenty two as well. So and I don't I'll say this,
(15:25):
I don't think most Raider fans understood how good Gino
Smith is. And you know, I think there's there's still
the lasting impression of him, or the impression of him
with the New York Jets. But as we look back
in retrospect, was it the Jets or was it Gino?
And their history with quarterbacks might make you think or
probably should make you think that it's more on the
(15:45):
organization than it was you know Smith, because he's been
a really good quarterback kind of under the radar a
little bit with the Seattle Seahawks, and and I don't
see any reason why that's not going to pick up
right where it left off with the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
All right, then, I appreciate the time, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
All Right, have a good day, guys.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You too.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There goes our buddy Vinnie Bond Signiors.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
He was gonna, you know, he had to run Fred,
you know, getting all those alarms on his phone phone?
Was that Tom Brady calling him?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It had to be, yeah, because Tom Brady listens to everything,
of course. So we heard Vinnie mention his name and
he called him immediately. That's how that's what happened. Yeah,
that's a good point because on my phone, Kevin, do
you hear that?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Kevin? Yeah, No, it was definitely Vinnie's all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I'm not taking a rap for that. Uh, don't forget
two o'clock coming up. The new general manager of the
King's Ken Holland. So Pete Rose has been reinstated into baseball.
But should he go into the Hall of Fame. Let's
figure that out next.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Ah yeah, uh well, what what what come on? Freddy Rodney?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Pete Fred Rogan on the throw back thirsday, Leave your
worries behind, baby on the groove line, all.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So the Commissioner of Baseball, Rob manfred reinstated Pete Rose
Shoeless Joe Jackson because they were given a lifetime ban
from the game, and he said they're not alive anymore,
so the ban is removed. Fine, that's all Pete Rose wanted.
He wanted to be reinstated into the game. But but
(17:31):
but yeah, but here's the thing. Just because you're reinstated
into the game, does that mean you'll go into a
Hall of Fame? Because that was the goal, that was
the dream, that's all they ever wanted. Yeah, they still
got to vote him in, right, So yeah, just because
he's back in the game, doesn't mean he's in the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, because now they have to vote,
(17:54):
and the Veterans Committee would do that. And then it
brings it makes the question and if you go back
to the very beginning of all of this, first, baseball
kept Pete Rose out because he lied. He compounded what
he did at the beginning because he lied about it.
Then he finally came clean. But he did lie, he
(18:16):
admitted he lied. It took a while, but he finally
admitted that. But at the core of this, he bet
on baseball, and any question of impropriety in that sense
could compromise the integrity of the game. Now be he
bet on his team, he said, any team, It doesn't matter,
(18:37):
It really doesn't. You are in the game and you
are wagering on the game, and you were wagering on
your team to win. Great, But you're wagering on the game,
and that all by itself does compromise the integrity of
the game. That's why you're not allowed to bet. If
(18:59):
you're playing, you can affect the outcome, would you. I
don't know, but you could.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's the thing, right, He was in a position to
affect the outcome of games, right, you know, as the
manager in so many ways, in so many ways. But
if you take him at his word, he first, like
you said, he lied, right First, it was I didn't,
(19:28):
I never bet on our team, you know, And then
it came out that he did bet on his team,
only to win, though never to lose. Right, So, but
I think you're right. He kept digging himself a whole
at the whole. But I don't think they were ever
(19:51):
really going to reinstate him while he was alive. And
that's the thing I was going to say that he
he it's the only thing he e or wanted, but
he wanted it when he was alive, right, you know,
he actually said I don't. I don't doesn't mean anything
when I'm dead, because it's something you want to share
with your family and your your your peers and the
(20:11):
close people in your life. So it doesn't mean no
good to go in when I'm dead. You know, what
do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What do you think about his situation and should he
Should he be in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Should it be.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Separated by player coach number one? Or you know, what
he did on the field or what he did off
the field shouldn't affect him on the field and all
of his accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
The concern here is what he did off the field
did have an effect on what he did on the field.
He bet on baseball, So that's a problem now strictly
from a performance standpoint. Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer,
without question, without question, and I think in this scenario
that overrides everything else, especially since he's passed. If he
(21:09):
had been honest from the beginning, he would have been
back in baseball by now. By lying it made it worse,
And by lying it made you think, wait a minute,
what is he really covering up?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
If you don't tell the truth, immediately you think, well,
what else is there? What aren't you telling us?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Can we believe anything you said? So that made it worse?
I think, yeah, he should go into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I do. And maybe it's sentimental. Maybe I just thought
it was a great player, maybe because I knew him, But.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I certainly think that he was one of the great
players in the history baseball and he should be in there. Yes, yeah,
without question. Now I'll tell you this though. If you
look at the guys from Pete Rose gambling and then
the guys from the quote unquote steroid era, what's worse?
(22:07):
Which one of them was worse? Well, an easy question
for me.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay, the steroid era, not just one person was doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Let's keep that in mind. Not one person. It wasn't
one person that did it. A lot of guys did it.
A few people were known for it, but a lot
of guys did it. Did it give you an unfair advantage?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, you still had to hit the ball or throw it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It didn't make you superman. If you couldn't hit, you'd
hit a thousand that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Could it help a little bit if you were really
good at what you did, probably a little more strength,
Sure it would. But a lot of guys did it,
I think, compromise it, And then you could say, well,
that compromises the integrity of the game. But it doesn't
it if you don't have a hand in the direct
come of making decisions. Yeah, it could compromise it from
the position of you know, you had a bad night
(23:07):
because you didn't shoot up or Yeah. I think Brady
Anderson when he was playing for the Orioles, I think
one year he had like forty two home runs fifty
fifty it was a fifty yeah, Yeah, he had a
fifty home run. Brady anders a nice ballplayer. Fifty home runs.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And at that point I believe I kind of remember this.
He had not hit more than twenty something home runs
in a season leading up to that that one big
year that he.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Had, and he never hit fifty again. No, No, So
there you go. I think I think gambling was worse.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, without question, I do. Without question. Gambley certainly is worse.
And you every sport I think has this too. You know,
when you walk into the locker room, there is a
big poster. The first thing you see walking into the
locker room is gambling is illegal and will not be tolerated.
(24:02):
And there's a whole list of things that you look
at every time you walk in the locker room. And
I think there's a mandatory or is a mandate the
location where these posters were, and so you saw it
every time you came and went from the locker room.
But you know, with the in terms of the steroid
(24:24):
part of it, you know, there was a there was
widespread everything in the seventies and in the eighties, a
lot of guys were using illegal drugs to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Help them or enhance them.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And who's to say that that didn't give them an advantage.
If you were taking things to kind of get you
hyper and and and and get you quote more alert,
you know, is added unfair advantage. And what's the difference
between that and someone you know, using you know, cocaine
(25:05):
or shooting up with something else or taking some of
these over the counter things that can get you hyped
up and get so much energy into you.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
What's the difference? What's the difference?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, there have been multiple guys that were you know,
being suspended and brought back and suspended and brought back.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Member Steve Howe, Member Steve how absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean I don't say it like be cruel and
say like he was a poster child, but I don't
know how many times he got suspended. And there's six,
reinstated and suspended. Yeah, definitely on the high side of five.
But again, like I mentioned the other day, there were
so many things that were given to you to help
(25:50):
you get back on the field or stay on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Is that an advantage as well? I mean, it's just
and then at time, Again, I don't want to keep
beating this like a dead horse, but it was a
time where everyone was doing it and.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes, it was illegal, but they did not police it, Fred,
They really didn't. In fact, you know, we talked about it.
They promoted it. If you want to look at the
Samy soci Mark Maguire chase, that people out of people
had saved baseball or resurrected baseball. It did have an
(26:32):
impact on baseball and the excitement and MLB ate it
all up and promoted it and loved it.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
And these were two guys that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That pretty common knowledge that they were doing something and
we're on, you know, using steroids at the time, and
it was brushed under the rug because it enhanced Major
League Baseball at the time and at a time where
Major League Baseball needed it. So very hypocritical in a
lot of ways when it comes to things things like this,
(27:05):
and then what are you going to do about team
like the Astros who got a slap on the wrist.
I mean, that's cheating, flat out from one hundred percent,
and yet they just get a slap on the wrist.
(27:27):
So I mean there's a lot of hypocrisy going on.
But I'm just I think you know, to your point,
button him, button up, Pete Rose. He's number one in hits,
number one in games played on base I mean he
is you know, got the great nickname Charlie Hustle. I mean,
(27:48):
he did everything when he talked about And that's the
ironic part. Red It's because we keep tucking talking about
integrity of the game, integrity of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
He played the game like it was supposed to be played.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
He he ran out every ball that he hit, every
ground ball, he ran it out the first base as
hard as he could.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He played with so much energy. He played. He was
he was an iron man and.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And played every single game and and again hustled every
single memory, ran to catch her over in the All
Star game.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It was an All Star game. Yes, so you're talking
about integrity.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's at the top of the list of how you
want to play the game. Are you how you would
teach a kid how to play the game? He's at
the top of the list. So it's ironic that you
know we're talking about integrity of the game, and yet
you know you want to see how you should play
the game.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Go put on film with Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Sorry about the rock, Sorry about the I'm sorry, I'm
just very passionate about it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
All right, two o'clock through. General Manager of the Kings
Ken Holland joins the show. Next, Here's the way you
can steal two and a half million bucks.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh yes, I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Ronald Little George Clinton, Parliament funkadelic Atomic Dog. Yeah, that
got you up out your seat when you heard this.
Come on, all right, yes we are back. Don't forget
New GM of the Kings Ken Holland will join us
(29:41):
at two o'clock real quick, though, I just want to
talk about I just heard something that the NFL owners
will be voting on whether or not NFL players can
be allowed to play flag foot ball at the Olympics. Now,
(30:04):
I think it's pretty cool that they're gonna even have
flag football at at the Olympics. It's kind of it
feels like one of those one of those sports that
that we play here in the world is still far
behind us in terms of football, you know, much like
much like baseball was for a while when they you know,
(30:25):
introduced baseball to the Olympics. But obviously, as we've seen,
the international players are superstars and have have caught up
to you know, the US players in terms of talent.
You know, we're seeing talent from you know, Puerto Rico
and Dominican Republic and Venezuela and and and now even
(30:45):
some some European players, and certainly Australia, and now obviously
the boom of the Asian players and the Asian players
in Japan and Korea. So it's it's baseball became global.
I don't know how long going to take for flag
football to catch on around the world. Obviously they play it.
But Freddie, what do you think allowing the NFL players
(31:06):
to play flag football?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
The owner's going to vote on this.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You know something, I think anything you do like this
is just a way to create new revenue streams for
the individual sport. NFL guys play flag football. Okay, Now,
the NFL have flag football leagues, and flag football is
cool and everybody should play flag football. I don't think
NFL players should play flag football. I don't think so.
(31:33):
They play in the National Football League. This is not
flag Oh, this will be fun. We'll go and play
a little.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Flag I don't like it. I don't. Yeah, football is
a different animal.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What about So it's you take the current out of it,
and you got former players or you know, some guys
that were cut or you know, didn't get a chance
to make their mark in the NFL. Should they be
allowed to play? Say see a guy played for years
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
If you no longer play, if you're currently in the NFL,
you should not play. If you're not in the NFL
at your business.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Simple.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
If you're not at if you're not in the NFL
right now, then you do whatever you want to do.
But if you're in the NFL, you don't play. And
I would not vote for that if I was an owner.
Guy turns his knee and he's out for the year.
Football is not like any other sport. You got, as
you say, seventeen of them, they're all really special. You
missed five of them because you turned your ankle playing
(32:33):
flag football. That's not going to work.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, not worth it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Not worth it, Uh quickly, I do want to mention
this story two and a half million dollars and uh
interesting way to get it. What happened was a guy
who was driving for door Dash was able to swindle
the company out of two and a half million bucks.
Here's what he would do. He conspired with others and
what they would do. He used customer accounts to play
(33:00):
high value orders and then used an employee's credential to
gain access to door dash software and manually reassigned the
orders to driver accounts that he and others controlled. He
caused the fraudulent driver accounts to report that the orders
had been delivered when they had not, manipulated door Dasher's
computer systems to pay the fraudulent driver accounts for the
(33:22):
non existent deliveries.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So what was he doing. He was playing a shell game.
He was moving stord around and.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
All of a sudden people would say that that wasn't
delivered and that'd have to reimburse and it would go
right to the drivers.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And in doing that, the guy made two and a
half million bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So the reimbursement when when people complained or whatever happened,
they they called in to get reimbursed. But yet he
was the one controlling these accounts.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, he was able to make control it, so he
took the money.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Wow, pretty ingenious man. People will go through great lengths. Huh.
Two and a half millions pretty uh.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm still I'm still trying to picture how he actually
pulled this off without and getting away getting away with
two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, that that was the value of everything that he
was manipulating. They caught him, They got him. I mean
I used postmateson door dash. I think most.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
People do too. Yeah, we do too often. Play. That'd
be a hell of a meal for two and a
half million bucks.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and I'm sure it was a volume play for him, right,
because you know, you do it often and it adds up.
But plus, if you do, you know you're having orders
for six dollars or twelve dollars or whatever it is.
People aren't really paying that much attention. You look up
sometime and go, oh, who got that DoorDash? When I
get that? Oh yeah, okay, yeah for whatever you know,
(34:55):
and you.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Go right past it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Now, if you there are multiple door dash for you know,
four hundred dollars door dash bill every other every three
days or every week. Then that would raise obviously a
lot of red flags. But I'm sure he kept it
out amount and probably had a formula too. Probably asked Ai,
what's a good amount to order on door Dash if
(35:16):
I'm going to scam scam.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Them, and and AI with it.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The correct amount if you're going to accomplish this and
do this scam would be five dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Then he would give it his AI name, It's it's Bruce.
Then he would ask Bruce, the people are so messed
up with that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Name.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It it asking the question, how can I scam door
Dash out of two and a half million dollars? Well,
thank you for asking. That's a terrific question or a
really good idea. Here's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, it's like it's crazy, and I mean it's it's.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Amazing, remarkable and yet scary at the same time. A
quick quick story before I know we got a break
here is my son, Holly and my son were going
to the game Robinson.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
My son who lives in Japan, is on break.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So he's home now and all he wants to do is,
you know, wanted to get back and go to a
Dodger game, and we were able to set it up
because his brother r J works in the clubhouse that
he gets there, he can get there early and go
watch batting practice and go into the clubhouse. And he
was so excited to speak Japanese to the Japanese players Yamamoto,
(36:32):
Otani and Roki Sazaki that he but he was nervous
at the same time. So on the way to the game,
while they're driving down there, he punches up Ai and say,
what's you know, give me some good conversation when I'm
in the clubhouse talking to and he gave the names
(36:53):
to talk to them about in Japanese, and Holly's filming
this the whole time, and he's having a full on
conversation with Ai about these are good topics to talk about.
You should probably ask O Tani blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah, and then go back and forth and
bring that over to Yamamoto and ask him about his
time and you know, what's he like to do off
(37:15):
the field things like that, And they were having a
full on conversation like he was talking to Yamamoto or Suzaki.
And he did this all the way to the till
they got to the stadium and he was He said, man,
I felt so comfortable after that that I could go
in that clubhouse and and I use some of the
same topics, and we had some of the same dialogue. Amazing, amazing.
(37:41):
It's uh, it's it's it's scary.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, I'm thinking about college. I was writing papers
all that kind of stuff now, see, and that's you know,
we don't have enough time for it now. Maybe we
do it later. But education has to change.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, education, the way the way people receive their education
has to change because the world has changed. I don't
want you to use AI. Okay, kids in fifth grade
are using AI. But that's not the way to do it. No,
what you're saying is the old way to do it.
The new way is to teach using all of the
tools available to everybody. That's how you educate. I don't
(38:19):
want you using your cell phone. Well, okay, but I
use my cell phone. It's like an extension of my
body in everyday life.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I use my cell phone for a lot of things.
Right when I do this at school.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I mean it's like you're going to school to become amish.
Everybody get an oxen. It doesn't work that way now,
but a blue ox that's right. Everybody's you know, walking
around with long beards and oxen and they're calling each
other ye.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But that doesn't work that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
We have to adjust to what is today.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, all right, we're excited expecting to have the new
general manager of the Kings ken and join us after
the break
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