The Dodgers dominated the A's last night and get set to face Ohtani's former team in the freeway series starting tonight. The guys debate whether the Cowboys are still 'America's Team' in the NFL. We discuss the financial gap between USC and UCLA's athetic departments and what it may mean for the Bruins moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Rodney, Yes, yes, yes it was. It's a three hour
program for us today. Freddie, I thought, you know what
I thought last night you might get in at bat
for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That game was going, Oh my god, I was ready
for you to pay. Hey, Freddie, get your bat. Uh,
everybody got to hit. Everybody hits.
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, so, a couple of things we learned from last
night's game number one and maybe we can call Lon Rosen.
Lon Rosan oversees all the marketing and things like that
for the Dodgers. What they should do is have Shoeo
Tani bobblehead night every single game. For the third straight game,
on Babblehead Night, he homered, and last night he hit
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a pair of them out. Muncy Pajez Autman, he stuck
out his bat and went out of the park. They homered,
Kim reached base five times, Dalton rushing in his debut
two for four, and pretty much I think I don't
know where the A's found their pictures last night. I
don't know. Maybe everybody had the flu and they found
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some guys walking around outside the stadium and put them
in there. But wow, they were just lit up. It
was batting practice for the Dodgers. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It was It's like, hey, grab your bat, let's go
go ahead. Who wants to up their average today?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And and you know, sometimes it's it's contagious when things
happened like that, and we Dodgers were on the other
end of that the other night. You know where the
A's got hot and up and down that lineup, they
were hitting the ball out of the ballpark or hitting
a double, and that game got out of hand, in
which he saw Mickey Roe had to come in and pitch.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The same thing happened with the Dodgers. Man, it was
it was batting practice for them last night. It was
good to see. But you're right about show. Hey, every
time he has a bobblehead, something good happens. Yeah, I
hope you didn't line up outside the stadium yesterday. We
warned you. Yeah, we told you, Fred, you don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But if you went to the game, you got the
bibblehead and you got to see him knock too out
of the park. And that was good because for him
last night, really against those pitchers, it was batting practice,
and that proves he can't hit home runs in batting
practice because he just got up there and just mashed it.
Teet off. A good win for the Dodgers. You know, Oakland, Oakland,
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the athletics are competitive this year, but last night was
a pretty true indication of who they've been in the past.
High Side Munsey Homeward again. See, and it doesn't matter
who's pitching months. He needs that. He's got to regain
that confidence. Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You're talking about when you look up at the end
of the year and and he counts his home runs,
that doesn't have an asterisk by it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's a home run. I don't care who's pitching, I
don't care who was against. It counts. So when you're
struggling and you're trying to get yourself back on track,
it doesn't matter if it's Nolan Ryan up there or
it's Little league Timmy. It doesn't matter. You get a
hit and it HiT's a hit because it does something
for your confidence. And for him to it went out
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and he got a little that swagger back to him
a little.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bit once he hit it. It was good to see
because that's what we need from Max Munsey. We need
that going forward from guys like him because the top
three obviously are going to get and it's the rest
the other guys have got to come through and be consistent.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
James Outmanhomer, like I said, he stuck out his bat
and the ball hitded went out of the park, which
is encouraging for out Man. That fret, Why would you
say that, Why would you say that stuck out his
bat and the bat and the ball hit it. He
put a good swing on that, Freddie, and he hit
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You didn't say that about Max Muntzi. He saying that
about Otani. No, you know, it's harder.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
When he and Otani struck out. It gets a position player,
I think the catcher.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But it's hard when you know, when you get those
other guys going up there throwing lob balls or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's hard. First of all, there's more pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
On you than them because they don't care, right, They're
just trying to throw it over there and you all
you don't want to do is just strike out against
those guys, which Oldani did. I think that didn't get
then he didn't he keep that ball. Who's at the
back of their backup catcher or their one of the
catchers that pitch at the end, then he can. I
think he kept that ball and got it authenticated.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He did.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
He hasn't tossed it to the dug out he had
any pointed at Otani.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He was feeling himself.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I was like, I got you, man, if I were him, you.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Know, nobody knows that ten fifteen years from now and
he's talking to his grandkids, you know, that greatest player
of all time.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, show hey O'tani. You know I got in
against him and guess what old pop pop did? Struck
him out? Yeah, that's going on to Mantle Rodney, I'm
just saying for James outman, uh, it has been less
than spectacular his return. It's good to see him hit
it out. I just don't know if there's enough he
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can do to save himself, honestly. I mean, when everybody
gets back, he's not going to be here and we
really he's hit two home runs since he bet up here,
but he'sn't even hitting one hundred yet. That's not going
to get it done. I mean, you don't want, you
don't wish ill will for anyone, but that's not going
to get it done. He's been a home running every
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had bat to stay around us.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Thank god he did because I think he was zero
for four until he got that last that home run,
so he needed that for sure. But you never know, Fred,
I mean, I know we're going to talk about some
possible situations. So they may need him to stay. They
may they may need him to stay from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What do you hear? What I'm hearing? What do you
We'll talk about it, we'll talk about it next segment,
we'll talk about it right now. What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
No? No, Well, you know the word is there might
be a situation with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No, now, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That may require some position players to be included in that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
No, all right, let's just toss it. Let's just toss
it out. You didn't talk about I don't want to
talk about it later, but no, let's go let's do
it right now. All right. So with the Dodgers playing
the Angels tonight, and we'll talk about that that we
will get to later. But you look at Shoeyotani, and
here's a perfect example of something. The Angels should have
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traded Otani. They refused, they refused. If they had traded him,
he still could have been with the Dodgers today. But
if they had traded him when they could, they would
have got quite the haul in return, and they would
be further ahead in their development. That only makes sense.
It was their arrogance, their obstinates, their lack of foresight,
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for whatever reason, believing that he would stay, they kept him,
and what happened they ended up with nothing, absolutely nothing,
a complete waste.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And on top of that, fret too. If you're going
to say we're going to go for it, which they did, right,
that's what they did.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Say, We're going to go for it. We're not going
to trade him. We're going to try to win.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They made some moves at the All Star break, okay,
but if you make that commitment not to trade him,
you have to then make the commitment to keep him.
And regardless if he would have stayed or not, I
don't think he would have. I think he would have
tried to you know, wanted to get out of there.
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But he gave them all accounts. He gave them the
opportunity to match. Yes, they weren't going to match. They
weren't going match.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Seven hundred million dollars, but he gave them the opportunity
to match. And if you're not going to trade him,
you got to be prepared to do whatever it takes
to keep him. Otherwise you end up with nothing like
they did. Yeah, here was their mistake for whatever reason.
And you have to think they thought they could hold
on to him, because otherwise than Ardie Moreno should be
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kicked out of baseball. I mean, there should be a
rule the commissioners should come in and say you're you're finished.
If you didn't think you could keep him, you should
have traded him. That's what was best for the franchise,
but they thought they could keep him. Okay, so now
you're in. You're in. You've made the decision. That's our guy.
When someone comes to you at the end and says,
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all right, you got the last crack here. I'm not
saying it's going to work, but we're coming to you.
Last match this right here it is, here's the number.
Do it. You cannot turn around and go no, we're
not doing that. You can't. You can't. Okay, you got
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the last swing. Here you go out of courtesy, out
of honor. We've been with you. Match it. We're not
talking to anyone after you here. You go, oh, we're out.
We're out. You can't be out. You can't be out.
You didn't trade him. You set it up so you
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wanted to keep him. Set it up that way, so
you cannot not sign him. Right, you can't be out.
You got to be in. We're in. It makes sense. Yes, Yes,
the answer is yes. The answer was no. Do you
want to that? It should have been they could have.
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They should have said that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes should have came out of their mouth so fast
that you probably couldn't even understand what they said.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
The should have been filming at the mouth. What you're
gonna give us a chance to match? Okay, yes, yes,
call my banker, let's match this thing. Yes, he gave
He didn't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
He did not have to go back to himself. You
got the last you got the last shot. No, I'm
coming to you. You've been loyal to me. And that
just goes to show the respect that he has for
the game and the Angels. I mean, not a lot
of guys would have done that, given the way the
Angels have been since he's been there and not really
putting a team on the field that can win. He
had every right to say I'm out and I'm not
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gonna give you that opportunity. But he did out of
respect and that's part of the culture too. And you're
out after that. You can't be you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It is. It is one of the biggest debacles I
think in baseball history, maye in professional sports history. Yeah,
what an incredible miscalculation. Yeah that that harmed the franchise immeasurably. First,
it just put you behind. It put you behind. So
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if you're telling your fans, yeah, we're in it to
when it will, actually you're not. Because if you were
you would have done what was necessary. He could have
brought you five young guys and all of them probably
could play. That's what you would have gotten in return.
You could have had an entire outfield. You could have
had two pitchers, a shortstop, a second baseman, and a
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left fielder. You could that could play. As you mentioned,
all that could play. Yeah, because that's what it would
have taken, and somebody would have done it. That doesn't
mean after the year, when he's up as a free agent,
he still wouldn't have signed with the Dodgers, but it
does mean that the Angels are set for the future
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and they refuse to do it. So now let's talk
about Paul schemes in Pittsburgh. Paul's schemes, by all accounts,
with all the respect, is the best young pitcher in
the game. Yes, it ain't even close. Okay, good, he's
the best young pitcher in the game. I'm telling you
right now, four years from now, when he's up, they're
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not resigning him. I'll tell you that right now, right now,
they're not going to resign him. They're not going to
pay him what it's going to take. If he doesn't
get hurt and continues the way he is. What did
Yamamoto make three point fifty something like that? Twenty five?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah he signed for okay, yeah, by the time he's up,
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's my point. There's no way Pittsburgh can sign him.
No way. So if you're the Pirates, what do you do?
You know you can't sign them now you know you
have them. Now is it better? Is it better to
make a move with a younger guy now that you
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know you cannot sign? So with Otani Artie moreno thought. Yeah,
well we can sign, but they couldn't. Now we're seeing schemes.
Why wouldn't you move him earlier and get a big
haul in return? Why wouldn't you start that process now?
Granted you're going to give up the best pitcher in baseball,
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But then again, if the guy pitches every fifth day
or sixth day, you got a shot to win every
five or six days. What if you had four or
five players that you acquired that could help you every day,
that could make you better every day? Why wouldn't you
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do that sooner rather than later? And no one really
uses that philosophy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
No, no one. They always wait. They always wait till
the last year of a deal. And that's another thing.
I mean, as great as the Major League Baseball Players
Union is, man, that's a long time, and that's a
long time for him to have his free agent rights.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's twenty thirty. He doesn't. He's not due to be
a free agent til twenty thirty. He's got to live
and I mean technically they don't have to do anything.
They really don't no with him. He's under team control
till twenty thirty. That's crazy to me for a guy
like that that's sitting there knowing that they're not gonna
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win fifty games. It's one of those years and he's
got to wait till twenty thirty before he can become
a free agent. How do they let that get through? Well,
that's why they went to the arbitration process. But here's
what a number of teams are doing. I think arbitration is.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Like, what in the world I should be I should
be a three hundred million dollar guy next year?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, but look, a number of teams now are
buying guys out. I think Milwaukee did it with Cheerio.
I know the Padres did it with tattoos. Mm hmm.
We're gonna get you right now. Yeah, we're gonna We're
gonna buy out arbitration and hold you so many years.
You're gonna make mon tattoos. That tattoo steal is gonna
look good about three years from now, it is. You're right,
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but we'll take care of it now. Tampa Bay did
it with somebody, so they're buying these young guys out.
You get more. Take the money now. You know what,
instead of taking three million a year, how about you
start taking fifteen million a year. Take that for like
five or six years. Instead of slowly building here, we'll
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just give it to you upfront, and then when you're
a free agent, you have been here, you've been paid,
maybe we'll be able to hold on to you. That's
what teams are doing. Pittsburgh can't do that. No, they're
gonna start paying this guy thirty million dollars a year.
Does anybody make thirty million dollars a year on the pirates?
I don't think so. No, that's that's almost that's like
eighty that payroll. Right. So if that's the case, why
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wouldn't you move him sooner? And if you're gonna move
him sooner, I got an idea. I have a suggestion.
Where you could move him. Just move him right here
to the Dodgers. The Dodgers certainly for players for you.
They love Dalton Rushing and he'll look good. And Pen
he'll look good in Pittsburgh. Pen truts go, he's in
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the deal. You got him. Who else do you want?
They got enough guys, but Pies could go, they could go.
You know, They've got a number of guys that the
Dodgers within that we know, and then ones we don't
know of right now that are in the system. We're
we're happy to help you out here. We're just we're
just the guys to do it. We're your friends. Yeah,
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And for the Dodgers it would be worth it, sure would,
because they'll just find more people. But that's the thing
about Pittsburgh and Paul Schemes in the way baseball works.
This guy's really good. I don't think anybody thinks, oh,
he's a flash in the pan and he had one
nice year and then he's done. No, no, no, no, he's real. Yeah,
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he's that level. He's he's those guys, he's Verlanderk, I
mean he's those he's on that level already. Garrett Cole,
I mean he's that guy for them, and all you
need to get is two runs for him and he's good. Right,
So if that's the case, why wouldn't you with this opportunity.
You gotta let him pitch this year, and let's say
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he goes out and he kills it again, move him,
move them, and when there's outrage in your fan base, say, look, yes,
we got rid of Paul's schemes, but we acquired five
players here, and those five players are going to help
us get better a lot faster, and we're going to
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take that direction. And I don't think anyone thinks that way.
But I don't know why you wouldn't think that way.
You know your ownership group, and even if the Pirates
were sold, somebody's gonna buy them, are they really going
to pay in Pittsburgh that kind of money? Probably not?
So why not just move them? Get better faster? That
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should have been the Angels plan. Oh Tani, get better faster.
Now they would have given up that money from Japan
sponsorship money, right, so that would have affected the bottom line.
But if you turn around and you go, well, if
we're better, more people are going to come. They're going
to pay more, So we'll probably make that money up
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if we're better, because right now they're only coming to
see Otani when it was with the Angels. Seriously, it's like,
we're not going to see the Angels. We're gonna go
see you know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And the unfortunately Mike Trout has been in the injured
lists more than he's played over the last few seasons,
so it's rare that they were.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
In line up together, you know. So, but yeah, Otanni
was the attraction. Yeah, they should have moved him, And
if you think about it, Pittsburgh should probably move Paul
Schemes world class spot Coachella Valley's best bet. All right,
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later in the program, we're gonna get into the matchup
tonight at the stadium. The Angels will have a chance
to see Otani during the regular season. I am betting,
And tell me if you think I'm wrong. Ardi Moreno
was not going to be there tonight. You know, you
don't think he's coming. I don't think that's gonna happen.
I don't think he'll be in the uh, the visiting
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President's box. I don't think he'll be there for that.
But we'll talk about that, and of course we'll get
into the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. But when we
come back, think about this, is there an America's team
in football? We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, it must be Friday, Freddy, it must be Friday,
because you know what, No, we don't not on a Friday. Hey, Freddy,
got something really cool that happened just now.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's rivalry weekend in baseball, right, Dodgers playing the Angels, YEP,
Mets and Yankees, White Sox, Cubs, and our man Miguel
Vargas just went deep for the White Sox. A run
for the White Sox. Yes, Miguel Vargas. Remember how sad
he looked on that bench when he got traded.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes, he just went deep for the White Sox. So
good for Miguel Vargas. He was miserable. Think you think
about that. We were just talking about schemes and what
you know other teams can get. I mean, think about Bargains.
Was a big time prospect for the Dodgers when he
came up, Yep, you know, and they tried to fast
track him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He struggled from.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Time to time, but they got They got so many
prospects and players that we don't we don't know about
young guys that if you're Pittsburgh, you that's the first
call you should make it see the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, oh I would agree with that. By the way, Vargas, uh,
not hitting much average this year, but a little.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Pop to his bat, little pop. It was his fourth
or fifth on run this year. So yeah, got a
little pop pill pop.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And you know they're gonna sit with him now for
a while because he wasn't a highly touted prospect. Dodgers
thought he hit a ceiling. That doesn't mean he had,
but uh, they'll sit with him for a while and
give him a chance to develop them. It's good. Good
for him. He didn't have to sit outside the dike
out forlorn, staring up into the sky wondering what the
hell happened to me? What am I doing here? I
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gotta tell you if you're if you're on a rookie
deal or you know, and the way it works is
you get so much money per year and then you
go to arbitration. I'd much rather be making that money
in Los Angeles than playing for the White Sox. Yeah,
how many years you got to go before you can
be able to do for our arbitration. I think three three,
three years. I know they did it with a lot
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of Cody. They did it with Cody Bellingder after he
had the big, big two years and you know he's
an l MVP. They had to do something for him, right,
like you said, tattoos. But so it's three years. Yeah,
So okay, all right, So the big schedule release in
the NFL. And and actually I heard this this morning.
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Rich and Corvino or Coveno. We're filling in for Dan
Patrick and I heard him talking about this, and I
thought that's interesting. So the schedule release, we laugh about it,
we talk about it. By the way, Uh, for younger
fans on social media, it is enormous.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The Chargers did something with mind craft and apparently it
popped more than anything any of the teams. It was spectacular.
So they do look forward to this, and social media
is the way that teams do communicate now with the
next generation of fans. Actually far more important than what
we do, at least in the club's minds. I assure
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you of that. That's how you're talking to people. So
I saw the bill's schedule release. My daughter Hayley sent
it to me and Uh, it's Josh Allen. So he's
the star of the Bill's schedule release on TikTok, and
he had a suggestion, Kevin, I think we have it,
so go ahead and roll it. Yeah, I mean, what's up?
A little busy here?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
What's up dude?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Real quick? Uh? Schedule release video? You got anything for me?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I mean excuse I. Hey, I that's what everybody's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
See what I can do.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, it'll be easy. I mean excuse I.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, excuse.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I AI AI. Thanks for doing this today. Yeah, I
don't know what I'm doing. Why am I here?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We do want you to reveal the Buffalo Bills twenty
twenty five schedule Buffalo Bill's Josh Allen Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, Josh actually sent us to shoot with you. Wow,
MVP Josh Allen, that's something for me to brag about.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He said he wanted to use AI, use AI or
the real You're the only AI I know?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Dude. Okay, so we got a real deal. Let's do
it then schedule. That's good. So the bill they said
use AI, so they went to allan. I. That's pretty cool.
Isn't that good? Yeah? It's very good, very good. And
look at the Charger one because it was just terrific.
I saw it this morning. You won't play on the
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radio because there's no narration to it, but it's pretty good.
They really did a good job. And what they're trying
to do now is talk to the consumer where the
consumer is consuming, and that's social media. It's really smart
and the NFL is far ahead of everybody on this,
so that is killing it. Yeah, the NFL is just
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it just know how to keep themselves in the news
cycle twenty four to seven, twelve months out of the years.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's incredible. Yeah, the Minecraft one with the targets was
pretty cool. That AI one that I like that a lot.
I like it when they get creative, it's very cool.
But just what in the world, though Fred was in
the world a schedule gets this kind of attention.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know, I know. Here here's what the NFL does
really well. Think about it like this. If you worked
in professional sports for a team, you know what the
business you're really in. If you think about it, hospitality.
You're in the hospitality business. It's as if you're running
a hotel. You're in hospitality. You have to welcome people
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one way or another to your venue. To watch your team,
and you have to treat them that way as if
they're your guests. Okay, So in using social media, you're
encouraging people to get excited to come to your venue,
to come to your arena, to come to your stadium,
and when they get there, then you have to treat
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them properly. So, really, working in pro sports, aside from
what's going on on the field or the court or
the diamond, you're in hospitality now. In football, because there
are so few games, everyone is that much more precious
and rotten. You've talked about that over the years as
a guy that played. The schedule release is big for
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one very important reason. It's the determination of who plays
in the big games. So everybody basically plays once a week.
It's one day of play. Do you want to get
mixed up in all the Sunday games. Well, if you
get mixed up in all the Sunday games, and let's
say you get the ten o'clock kick our time here
(27:10):
on the West Coast, nobody's expecting that many people to
watch the one o'clock kickoff in the East, that's where
we put everybody, but the special people always go later.
And then if you're really special, you get prime time. Yeah. Now,
normally the leaders in prime time are the Dallas Cowboys.
(27:33):
They're known as America's team. Really, they haven't done much
of anything for a long period of time, but the
networks and the broadcast partners pick the teams for prime
time that they think will drive the largest audience. So
if the Cowboys were quote unquote America's team, everybody wanted
(27:54):
to get the Cowboys in primetime just theoretically you would
have more people. I don't think the Cowboys are America's
team anymore. You don't know. As a matter of fact,
I don't even think Fox wanted them in the late
window was often and their research would indicate they're not
(28:16):
drawing like they used to. But they're drawing not like
they used to, and they're not drawing like they used
to because they haven't won. And as generations change and
new people come into the fray and the fan base grows,
people don't remember the Cowboys winning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Who's an America's team? He said, They're not an America's
team anymore. Who's America's team now?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think the Chiefs like them or not. For whatever reason,
they have been dominated here and Patrick Mahomes for a
period of time. I believe they have seven prime time
appearances this year. Seven, Yeah, they do. Seven.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Cowboys are next with So here's the argument argument against you.
The Chiefs, you know, on the verge of being called
a dynasty. Had they won the Super Bowl and made
it three in a row, yeah, we would have been
talking to them them as the new Patriots, the new
dynasty in sports. Now they're they're a superstar team. They're
(29:21):
a great team, great organization. But I don't know if
we can call them a dynasty just yet because the
and the way they lost to the Eagles in the
Super Bowl. So it's like we're not ready to crown
them yet. Now, if they go back to the Super
Bowl this year and win it, maybe you can start
really really that can that can really take hold. But
(29:44):
if the Chiefs weren't winning, if the Chiefs weren't winning,
would they be anywhere on this list?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That's why Cowboys are the number are still America's team
because they are second on this list, and the Cowboys
haven't done anything.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
They've laid it in it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They ain't make the playoffs last year and they haven't
won and since the nineties, right, and.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yet they're on The.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Chiefs are on seven primetime games and the Cowboys are
on six with having a terrible record over the last
fifteen years. Now, if the Chiefs had the same record,
they wouldn't even be on this list. They would be
into bottom ten, same with anybody else on this So
for that reason, the Cowboys still are America's team.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well, old happens, die hard. Look at it like this, Rodney,
You and I we've just been put in charge of
NBC Sports. We get to make the decisions. So they
come to us and they say, okay, here are games
(30:57):
available to you for the Sunday Night package. What do
you think? Are you kidding me? We would both look
at them and go, I want Patrick Mahomes as many
times as you got them. How many times can I
have Patrick Mahomes. I would't even say the cheap I
want Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But you can't undersell Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift, whether
we like to admit it or not, that's part of
that equation.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Exactly, exactly exactly youre talking about, not just you know
a few new fans. They Taylor Swift moved the needle
for the NFL dramatically move the needle for the NFL
to a point where fans didn't even care about football
started watching football because of her. And so, like Kevin said,
(31:44):
whether you want to whether you hate it or not,
or you want to talk about it or not, it's
a fact that she has had a tremendous impact on
the viewership of the Kansas City Chiefs and the NFL,
which is why they've bend over backwards to take care
of her wherever she for Chief game or NFL games. So, yeah,
he has definitely moved the needle. But they do things
(32:07):
based on research. If you're running a network or a
streaming service, everything is based on research. You want the
biggest percentage of the audience to tune in. That's how
you make your money. You're promising advertiser's a certain rating. Yes,
oh honey, we're gonna we gotta go, you know, we
gotta go see Bob and Sue on Sunday night with
(32:29):
the kids who are teenagers, and we're gonna go over
to Bob and Sue's and we're gonna have some pot roast.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right. Oh wait, the Chiefs are playing at home. We're
not going to Bob and sue because the kids want
to stay home and see if they get a glimpse
of Taylor Swift in the box. Could be how do
you get be? Is? All right? So the Chiefs are
on seven times, the Cowboys six, then at five each Buffalo.
(32:59):
I get that. Josh Owen mm hm, Miami a wild card.
Shocked by that? Well, but Bud a wild card. You
don't know, Uh, Chargers Harbor effect. I think it's more
horrorball than it is justin Herbert, it's the harball. Yeah,
I'll give you that. I'm no, I'm giving you one
(33:19):
hundred percent. Then you have the Eagles. They're a national brand,
they travel well. Commanders are on five times. You know
what Jayden Daniels, Yes, he moves the needle. He moves
the needle. He must watch TV. Yeah. The Lions are
five times as well.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, I wouldn't say shocking because they've they've been
in the mix for the last three four years. Dan
Campbell up there, Derek Golf has played well. They've been close,
close close. I think the Eagles are one of those teams.
I mean, the Lions are one of those teams that
if if you were to get outside of your comfort
zone or your city.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's a team that you root for. Oh, the Lions
are good. It's good that the Lions are good. I
like to see the Lions. I'm rooting for the Lions,
so I get that. I get that, and it's good
to see because ordinarily the Lions would never be as high. No. No,
Also at five the Falcons, we can't figure out why that?
What the hell is that? Yeah, it makes no sense.
Why are they there? Who wants to see them play?
(34:19):
But apparently some of thems five times yeah, forty nine
ers are also five.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Times Java Well got a big fan base, get it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Okay, So Pittsburgh normally is near the top. They're only
on four times this year in prime time. Bengals are
four times Texans exciting. You don't know what will happen?
They get four times vers right up there. Ravens weren't
up there at five with Lamar Jackson. I'm surprised they
were only four Packers only four normally they normally they're more. Yeah,
(34:56):
Vikings at four, Baker Mayfield and the Bucks at four
and the Rams at four. War Personally, I thought the
Rams would have had more. I would I did two.
I thought the Rams would be high for sure. Yeah,
So let's go to the bottom of the list. Who
don't people want to see the Saints make no prime
time appearances. No, the Browns make no primetime appearances. That's
(35:21):
Schador starts to play. Then they get flexed. Don't geting
like that? Yeah, Tennessee zero, Carolina gets one, Jacksonville gets one,
the Colts get one, and then it's just the rest
of them. If you go from the bottom up anywhere. Cardinals.
The Cardinals get two. Okay, okay, yeah, Cardinals. I think
(35:43):
that's probably too too many for them. Jets two, Bears three,
Giants Giants normally.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right there, two of the like they call him basketball
in college, right The blue Blood's the really old school,
the franchises that iconic, Raiders, Giants and Bears three only three.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, and that's it. And the Patriots get three. So
when you look at this, this is how the people
that do research view the teams that make the greatest impact.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I'll say this two fred I found this quote from
Michael Molville. He's an executive with Fox Sports. We're talking
about the Cowboys. That's how this whole discussion started. So
we said, of our four to twenty five PM. That's
Eastern our one twenty five kick here. Only three of
those this season are Cowboy games, and other years we've
gone to look for five or six games at that
time window. But this year we wanted more AFC. We
(36:44):
wanted more Philadelphia, more Detroit, and more Washington. I think
we have a better mix of teams than we've had
in the past, and we've actually had exact spiration from
fans who watched the Fox window and always complain that
the Cowboys are on at four to twenty five, So
we wanted to mix it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, they can plain because the Cowboys aren't good, correct,
The Cowboys aren't exciting. That's why they complained. I mean,
if the Cowboys were killing it, it'd be a different story.
So I'm just saying, you still have to have sustained success,
and the Cowboys have. Their success is their name, and
it hasn't been bet And they're not exciting to watch,
(37:23):
no at all. You know, they're not.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
They're not very exciting to watch, and again, to your point,
they don't they haven't won. But sometimes you get a
team that's got that kind of brand. If they're exciting
to watch. Then they still would be up there, but
the Cowboys are not at all. Look, it's like when
Charles Barfley went on TNT and he kept saying, how
how how many Laker games are we going to get
(37:46):
because of Lebron? How many they're not winning? Why are
we stuck with him? Why are we stuck with them?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Why? People want to see teams that win. Well, longevity
and equity does make a difference, but ultimately you want
to see something that's fun to watch, and according to
those that make the decisions in the NFL, Chiefs are
the number one team to watch. Okay, we'll raise the
(38:18):
curtain a little bit. How much money do the people
at USC make, really make, honestly make, legally make Rodney hey,
oh yes please?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
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Speaker 1 (39:02):
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Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm grateful for the baby steps again. Today's Afternoon Delight
is Somebody by Lotto. So yesterday we talked about UCLA's
problems with money in their athletic department. Yes, and her
fifty one million dollars in the hole from this year
(39:42):
and it's not getting any better, and we wondered out loud, Okay,
what would it be like in USC. How's their athletic
program doing? So let's take a look. The Times wrote
this today. For example, while UCLA is struggling all in
for last, he's in Lincoln Riley eleven and a half
million bucks. I think he's a fourth highest paid coach
(40:05):
in the country. Keep in mind, part of that eleven
and a half million is kind of against his buyout,
so he's making about ten million a year. So he's
doing fine and they can certainly afford that money. As
a matter of fact, Yes, Clay Helton, he's not even
coaching at USC anymore. He'll get it. Yeah, in twenty
(40:27):
twenty two and twenty twenty three, they paid him more
than nine point one million dollars. He's not even coaching
there anymore. They're doing okay. Jen Cohen, when she came
down from Washington to become the athletic director after Mike
bone Bone helped himself out of there, boned out part
(40:47):
in the puns. Yeah, yeah, pardon the puns. Three million dollars. Now,
some of that is her buyout from Washington, but you know,
let's call her two and a half for the hell
of it. She's making two and a half. Andy Enfield
when he was a basketball coach, he made almost five
(41:08):
million dollars four point six million. If you look at
what these people pay at USC, some people are getting
paid for doing that, got paid for doing nothing. That's
the price of doing business. If you really look at it,
you can understand why they are the halves and the
(41:29):
have nots. Yeah. Now I'm not saying that USC didn't
already mo aredy Moreno had a bit and make some
bad calls. Good. Nobody's perfect, nobody bats a thousand, no,
But they've got the money to spend, and they spend
(41:50):
it where you Seela doesn't. So then you think to yourself.
Are these both really big ten schools? Are they both
on equal footing? I can tell you Michigan spends like this,
Ohio State spends like this. Yeah, and you go to well,
(42:11):
you know, USC is a private school, so they can
you know, they can. They've got access to more funds
and they can do more things where U c l A.
I mean, we talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
UCLA has to pay cow right, they have to give
some money to CAL and other UC regent schools and
things like that. But can't you make that case for
Michigan or Michigan State or even Ohio State's a state school,
isn't it. I don't think those those are private schools.
So it's just I don't know how UCLA survives. I
(42:49):
really don't. And it used to be you know, obviously
everything in college has changed, but USC used to be
notorious for not paying it's coaches. And that was a
big knock on USC is that they, you know, at
trouble getting big time coaches because they they were very
they were at the bottom when it came to salaries
for their head coaches and then even worse for the
(43:11):
assistant coaches.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And now they're at the top.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
But I don't know how how how you said they're
working at a fifty one million dollar deficit the athletic
department at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I think it was from last just last year.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, man, yeah, And in today's world, how do you
survive athletically if you UCLA?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah? You you? How do you overcome that? You don't
have the revenue streams they're thinking if they improve the
Rose Bowl a little bit, put some suites and stuff
like that in thought'll be worth fifteen maybe fifteen twenty
million eight years.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
What six games a year that they get to jump
on that, I mean, is that really going to make
a dent?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
See? I don't think so either. I agree with you.
Six games are gonna make twenty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
So, by the way, looking at UCLA, so they've run
a deficit for six consecutive fiscal years. So their deficit
current for fifty one point eight million last year, two
hundred and nineteen and a half million dollars as of
as a total at the moment.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, bottom line.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And even if so, with all the money they're gonna
get from the Big ten, which I think is somewhere
between sixty and seventy million dollars once you end up
taking care of the stuff you need to take care of,
if you're not really biting into much of that deficit
at all.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's exactly right. I mean, this is gonna sound terrible
to say it, and I don't want to upset anybody
that want to UCLA, but it's like they should be
in the Mountain West Conference or they should be in
the former renewed Pack twelve where they can be more competitive. Yeah,
(44:48):
and even if they moved to either one of those conferences,
they still get a two hundred million dollar deficit.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, they'd make a lot less. They'd be in a
worship the way.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
They wouldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I mean the whole reason they get, you know,
going to the Big ten. They you know, they're they're
benefiting from going to the Big ten because they share
that revenue. But if you, like you said Fred and
Kevin just mentioned, you go to the Mountain West, there's
a revamped Pact twelve whatever back to two and a
half or whatever it is, that that number with which
(45:18):
I think it's like seventy something million dollars if they
get a Big ten something around there.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Somewhere between sixty five and seventy five million dollars for
school in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, so that number gets cut way down, way down.
They're not even gonna come close to that if they've
moved conferences. But in today's world of college sports, where
you've got to you've got to spend money on your
student athletes, I'm sorry Fred on your athletes, thank athletes anymore?
(45:48):
How do you compete? I mean, they got the they
got the kid from Tennessee kind of fell in their
lap because it was handled poorly, I think, But who
knows how he's going to be, you know, going to
a new school and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
They kind of lucked out with that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
But how do they compete with just the teams are
the Big ten schools on this side. They can't compete
with Oregon, They can't compete with Washington and the money
that they get that they have, and certainly can't compete
with USC and the money that they can pay their
coaches and pay you know, all the nil money and
(46:27):
all the things that comes through. You know, some of
these schools they can't compete. And the thing about it
is in this town, yes, it's it's looked upon as.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Us he's got all the money, right.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
They got a lot of wealthy folks that went to USC,
and that is true, But there are a lot of
wealthy folks that went to UCLA as well.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
There are a lot of wealthy folks and are they
just not kicking in as much as they would like
them to. Maybe maybe that's the case. See in the past,
UCLA and USC were a pretty big deal. And the
reason they were a big deal nationally is they brought
the Los Angeles television market with them. That's what made
(47:07):
them such a big deal. When you put a team
on from the second largest market, the feeling is more
people are going to watch because the population base is bigger.
That's how it works. That's why in broadcast TV you
need two cities to watch LA and New York, LA
and New York.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
And if you're all you're watching is Ohio State, Michigan
or Penn State and Texas. The folks in LA they're
not watching. But you throw a USC and UCLA in
a mix, now you've got the second largest market.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Like you said, see, so that makes sense. The problem
is UCLA doesn't have the cash shet of USC. It
just doesn't and financially it can't compete with USC, it can't,
no disrespect. But that's just the bottom line here.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
I mean part of it too is college football is
more of a national it's not regional like it used to,
so it doesn't matter. Georgia's and Athens and they'll draw
better ratings than UCLA and even when USC was down
over the last couple of years, than them. The market
size doesn't matter anymore because it's a global sport. It's
basically the NFL's to tone down NFL. It doesn't matter.
The better programs are gonna draw whether it's in Tuscaloosa
(48:20):
or Athens, Georgia, La, LA doesn't matter anymore in today's landscape.
And one thing that's gonna affect too now the athlete
students who are playing basketball and football. They're gonna end
up costing the actual student athletes at UCLA because the
next step is probably they're gonna end up having to
cut sports to save money. Yeah, yeah, you can only
(48:43):
cut so much because of the title nine. But that's
the next step because what else can.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
You do, Yeah, lacrosse and some of the lower sports,
or you're not gonna see him anymore.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
So the actual student athletes at these universities are the
ones who are gonna be affected by this.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
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I thought last night you might get in at bat
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, so, a couple of things we learned from last
night's game number one and maybe we can call Lon Rosen.
Lon Rosan oversees all the marketing and things like that
for the Dodgers. What they should do is have Shoeo
Tani bobblehead night every single game. For the third straight game,
on Babblehead Night, he homered, and last night he hit
(01:24):
a pair of them out. Muncy Pajez Autman, he stuck
out his bat and went out of the park. They homered,
Kim reached base five times, Dalton rushing in his debut
two for four, and pretty much I think I don't
know where the A's found their pictures last night. I
don't know. Maybe everybody had the flu and they found
(01:47):
some guys walking around outside the stadium and put them
in there. But wow, they were just lit up. It
was batting practice for the Dodgers. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It was It's like, hey, grab your bat, let's go
go ahead. Who wants to up their average today?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And and you know, sometimes it's it's contagious when things
happened like that, and we Dodgers were on the other
end of that the other night. You know where the
A's got hot and up and down that lineup, they
were hitting the ball out of the ballpark or hitting
a double, and that game got out of hand, in
which he saw Mickey Roe had to come in and pitch.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
The same thing happened with the Dodgers. Man, it was
it was batting practice for them last night. It was
good to see. But you're right about show. Hey, every
time he has a bobblehead, something good happens. Yeah, I
hope you didn't line up outside the stadium yesterday. We
warned you. Yeah, we told you, Fred, you don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But if you went to the game, you got the
bibblehead and you got to see him knock too out
of the park. And that was good because for him
last night, really against those pitchers, it was batting practice,
and that proves he can't hit home runs in batting
practice because he just got up there and just mashed it.
Teet off. A good win for the Dodgers. You know, Oakland, Oakland,
(03:01):
the athletics are competitive this year, but last night was
a pretty true indication of who they've been in the past.
High Side Munsey Homeward again. See, and it doesn't matter
who's pitching months. He needs that. He's got to regain
that confidence. Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You're talking about when you look up at the end
of the year and and he counts his home runs,
that doesn't have an asterisk by it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's a home run. I don't care who's pitching, I
don't care who was against. It counts. So when you're
struggling and you're trying to get yourself back on track,
it doesn't matter if it's Nolan Ryan up there or
it's Little league Timmy. It doesn't matter. You get a
hit and it HiT's a hit because it does something
for your confidence. And for him to it went out
(03:46):
and he got a little that swagger back to him
a little.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bit once he hit it. It was good to see
because that's what we need from Max Munsey. We need
that going forward from guys like him because the top
three obviously are going to get and it's the rest
the other guys have got to come through and be consistent.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
James Outmanhomer, like I said, he stuck out his bat
and the ball hitded went out of the park, which
is encouraging for out Man. That fret, Why would you
say that, Why would you say that stuck out his
bat and the bat and the ball hit it. He
put a good swing on that, Freddie, and he hit
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You didn't say that about Max Muntzi. He saying that
about Otani. No, you know, it's harder.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
When he and Otani struck out. It gets a position player,
I think the catcher.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But it's hard when you know, when you get those
other guys going up there throwing lob balls or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's hard. First of all, there's more pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
On you than them because they don't care, right, They're
just trying to throw it over there and you all
you don't want to do is just strike out against
those guys, which Oldani did. I think that didn't get
then he didn't he keep that ball. Who's at the
back of their backup catcher or their one of the
catchers that pitch at the end, then he can. I
think he kept that ball and got it authenticated.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He did.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
He hasn't tossed it to the dug out he had
any pointed at Otani.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He was feeling himself.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I was like, I got you, man, if I were him, you.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Know, nobody knows that ten fifteen years from now and
he's talking to his grandkids, you know, that greatest player
of all time.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, show hey O'tani. You know I got in
against him and guess what old pop pop did? Struck
him out? Yeah, that's going on to Mantle Rodney, I'm
just saying for James outman, uh, it has been less
than spectacular his return. It's good to see him hit
it out. I just don't know if there's enough he
(05:41):
can do to save himself, honestly. I mean, when everybody
gets back, he's not going to be here and we
really he's hit two home runs since he bet up here,
but he'sn't even hitting one hundred yet. That's not going
to get it done. I mean, you don't want, you
don't wish ill will for anyone, but that's not going
to get it done. He's been a home running every
(06:02):
had bat to stay around us.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Thank god he did because I think he was zero
for four until he got that last that home run,
so he needed that for sure. But you never know, Fred,
I mean, I know we're going to talk about some
possible situations. So they may need him to stay. They
may they may need him to stay from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What do you hear? What I'm hearing? What do you
We'll talk about it, we'll talk about it next segment,
we'll talk about it right now. What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
No? No, Well, you know the word is there might
be a situation with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No, now, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That may require some position players to be included in that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
No, all right, let's just toss it. Let's just toss
it out. You didn't talk about I don't want to
talk about it later, but no, let's go let's do
it right now. All right. So with the Dodgers playing
the Angels tonight, and we'll talk about that that we
will get to later. But you look at Shoeyotani, and
here's a perfect example of something. The Angels should have
(07:10):
traded Otani. They refused, they refused. If they had traded him,
he still could have been with the Dodgers today. But
if they had traded him when they could, they would
have got quite the haul in return, and they would
be further ahead in their development. That only makes sense.
It was their arrogance, their obstinates, their lack of foresight,
(07:35):
for whatever reason, believing that he would stay, they kept him,
and what happened they ended up with nothing, absolutely nothing,
a complete waste.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And on top of that, fret too. If you're going
to say we're going to go for it, which they did, right,
that's what they did.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Say, We're going to go for it. We're not going
to trade him. We're going to try to win.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They made some moves at the All Star break, okay,
but if you make that commitment not to trade him,
you have to then make the commitment to keep him.
And regardless if he would have stayed or not, I
don't think he would have. I think he would have
tried to you know, wanted to get out of there.
(08:14):
But he gave them all accounts. He gave them the
opportunity to match. Yes, they weren't going to match. They
weren't going match.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Seven hundred million dollars, but he gave them the opportunity
to match. And if you're not going to trade him,
you got to be prepared to do whatever it takes
to keep him. Otherwise you end up with nothing like
they did. Yeah, here was their mistake for whatever reason.
And you have to think they thought they could hold
on to him, because otherwise than Ardie Moreno should be
(08:43):
kicked out of baseball. I mean, there should be a
rule the commissioners should come in and say you're you're finished.
If you didn't think you could keep him, you should
have traded him. That's what was best for the franchise,
but they thought they could keep him. Okay, so now
you're in. You're in. You've made the decision. That's our guy.
When someone comes to you at the end and says,
(09:05):
all right, you got the last crack here. I'm not
saying it's going to work, but we're coming to you.
Last match this right here it is, here's the number.
Do it. You cannot turn around and go no, we're
not doing that. You can't. You can't. Okay, you got
(09:28):
the last swing. Here you go out of courtesy, out
of honor. We've been with you. Match it. We're not
talking to anyone after you here. You go, oh, we're out.
We're out. You can't be out. You can't be out.
You didn't trade him. You set it up so you
(09:50):
wanted to keep him. Set it up that way, so
you cannot not sign him. Right, you can't be out.
You got to be in. We're in. It makes sense. Yes, Yes,
the answer is yes. The answer was no. Do you
want to that? It should have been they could have.
(10:11):
They should have said that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes should have came out of their mouth so fast
that you probably couldn't even understand what they said.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
The should have been filming at the mouth. What you're
gonna give us a chance to match? Okay, yes, yes,
call my banker, let's match this thing. Yes, he gave
He didn't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
He did not have to go back to himself. You
got the last you got the last shot. No, I'm
coming to you. You've been loyal to me. And that
just goes to show the respect that he has for
the game and the Angels. I mean, not a lot
of guys would have done that, given the way the
Angels have been since he's been there and not really
putting a team on the field that can win. He
had every right to say I'm out and I'm not
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gonna give you that opportunity. But he did out of
respect and that's part of the culture too. And you're
out after that. You can't be you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It is. It is one of the biggest debacles I
think in baseball history, maye in professional sports history. Yeah,
what an incredible miscalculation. Yeah that that harmed the franchise immeasurably. First,
it just put you behind. It put you behind. So
(11:27):
if you're telling your fans, yeah, we're in it to
when it will, actually you're not. Because if you were
you would have done what was necessary. He could have
brought you five young guys and all of them probably
could play. That's what you would have gotten in return.
You could have had an entire outfield. You could have
had two pitchers, a shortstop, a second baseman, and a
(11:51):
left fielder. You could that could play. As you mentioned,
all that could play. Yeah, because that's what it would
have taken, and somebody would have done it. That doesn't
mean after the year, when he's up as a free agent,
he still wouldn't have signed with the Dodgers, but it
does mean that the Angels are set for the future
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and they refuse to do it. So now let's talk
about Paul schemes in Pittsburgh. Paul's schemes, by all accounts,
with all the respect, is the best young pitcher in
the game. Yes, it ain't even close. Okay, good, he's
the best young pitcher in the game. I'm telling you
right now, four years from now, when he's up, they're
(12:37):
not resigning him. I'll tell you that right now, right now,
they're not going to resign him. They're not going to
pay him what it's going to take. If he doesn't
get hurt and continues the way he is. What did
Yamamoto make three point fifty something like that? Twenty five?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah he signed for okay, yeah, by the time he's up,
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's my point. There's no way Pittsburgh can sign him.
No way. So if you're the Pirates, what do you do?
You know you can't sign them now you know you
have them. Now is it better? Is it better to
make a move with a younger guy now that you
(13:21):
know you cannot sign? So with Otani Artie moreno thought. Yeah,
well we can sign, but they couldn't. Now we're seeing schemes.
Why wouldn't you move him earlier and get a big
haul in return? Why wouldn't you start that process now?
Granted you're going to give up the best pitcher in baseball,
(13:44):
But then again, if the guy pitches every fifth day
or sixth day, you got a shot to win every
five or six days. What if you had four or
five players that you acquired that could help you every day,
that could make you better every day? Why wouldn't you
(14:04):
do that sooner rather than later? And no one really
uses that philosophy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
No, no one. They always wait. They always wait till
the last year of a deal. And that's another thing.
I mean, as great as the Major League Baseball Players
Union is, man, that's a long time, and that's a
long time for him to have his free agent rights.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's twenty thirty. He doesn't. He's not due to be
a free agent til twenty thirty. He's got to live
and I mean technically they don't have to do anything.
They really don't no with him. He's under team control
till twenty thirty. That's crazy to me for a guy
like that that's sitting there knowing that they're not gonna
(14:48):
win fifty games. It's one of those years and he's
got to wait till twenty thirty before he can become
a free agent. How do they let that get through? Well,
that's why they went to the arbitration process. But here's
what a number of teams are doing. I think arbitration is.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Like, what in the world I should be I should
be a three hundred million dollar guy next year?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, but look, a number of teams now are
buying guys out. I think Milwaukee did it with Cheerio.
I know the Padres did it with tattoos. Mm hmm.
We're gonna get you right now. Yeah, we're gonna We're
gonna buy out arbitration and hold you so many years.
You're gonna make mon tattoos. That tattoo steal is gonna
look good about three years from now, it is. You're right,
(15:32):
but we'll take care of it now. Tampa Bay did
it with somebody, so they're buying these young guys out.
You get more. Take the money now. You know what,
instead of taking three million a year, how about you
start taking fifteen million a year. Take that for like
five or six years. Instead of slowly building here, we'll
(15:52):
just give it to you upfront, and then when you're
a free agent, you have been here, you've been paid,
maybe we'll be able to hold on to you. That's
what teams are doing. Pittsburgh can't do that. No, they're
gonna start paying this guy thirty million dollars a year.
Does anybody make thirty million dollars a year on the pirates?
I don't think so. No, that's that's almost that's like
eighty that payroll. Right. So if that's the case, why
(16:16):
wouldn't you move him sooner? And if you're gonna move
him sooner, I got an idea. I have a suggestion.
Where you could move him. Just move him right here
to the Dodgers. The Dodgers certainly for players for you.
They love Dalton Rushing and he'll look good. And Pen
he'll look good in Pittsburgh. Pen truts go, he's in
(16:38):
the deal. You got him. Who else do you want?
They got enough guys, but Pies could go, they could go.
You know, They've got a number of guys that the
Dodgers within that we know, and then ones we don't
know of right now that are in the system. We're
we're happy to help you out here. We're just we're
just the guys to do it. We're your friends. Yeah,
(16:59):
And for the Dodgers it would be worth it, sure would,
because they'll just find more people. But that's the thing
about Pittsburgh and Paul Schemes in the way baseball works.
This guy's really good. I don't think anybody thinks, oh,
he's a flash in the pan and he had one
nice year and then he's done. No, no, no, no, he's real. Yeah,
(17:22):
he's that level. He's he's those guys, he's Verlanderk, I
mean he's those he's on that level already. Garrett Cole,
I mean he's that guy for them, and all you
need to get is two runs for him and he's good. Right,
So if that's the case, why wouldn't you with this opportunity.
You gotta let him pitch this year, and let's say
(17:44):
he goes out and he kills it again, move him,
move them, and when there's outrage in your fan base, say, look, yes,
we got rid of Paul's schemes, but we acquired five
players here, and those five players are going to help
us get better a lot faster, and we're going to
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take that direction. And I don't think anyone thinks that way.
But I don't know why you wouldn't think that way.
You know your ownership group, and even if the Pirates
were sold, somebody's gonna buy them, are they really going
to pay in Pittsburgh that kind of money? Probably not?
So why not just move them? Get better faster? That
(18:26):
should have been the Angels plan. Oh Tani, get better faster.
Now they would have given up that money from Japan
sponsorship money, right, so that would have affected the bottom line.
But if you turn around and you go, well, if
we're better, more people are going to come. They're going
to pay more, So we'll probably make that money up
(18:49):
if we're better, because right now they're only coming to
see Otani when it was with the Angels. Seriously, it's like,
we're not going to see the Angels. We're gonna go
see you know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And the unfortunately Mike Trout has been in the injured
lists more than he's played over the last few seasons,
so it's rare that they were.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
In line up together, you know. So, but yeah, Otanni
was the attraction. Yeah, they should have moved him, And
if you think about it, Pittsburgh should probably move Paul
Schemes world class spot Coachella Valley's best bet. All right,
(19:33):
later in the program, we're gonna get into the matchup
tonight at the stadium. The Angels will have a chance
to see Otani during the regular season. I am betting,
And tell me if you think I'm wrong. Ardi Moreno
was not going to be there tonight. You know, you
don't think he's coming. I don't think that's gonna happen.
I don't think he'll be in the uh, the visiting
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President's box. I don't think he'll be there for that.
But we'll talk about that, and of course we'll get
into the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. But when we
come back, think about this, is there an America's team
in football? We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, it must be Friday, Freddy, it must be Friday,
because you know what, No, we don't not on a Friday. Hey, Freddy,
got something really cool that happened just now.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's rivalry weekend in baseball, right, Dodgers playing the Angels, YEP,
Mets and Yankees, White Sox, Cubs, and our man Miguel
Vargas just went deep for the White Sox. A run
for the White Sox. Yes, Miguel Vargas. Remember how sad
he looked on that bench when he got traded.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes, he just went deep for the White Sox. So
good for Miguel Vargas. He was miserable. Think you think
about that. We were just talking about schemes and what
you know other teams can get. I mean, think about Bargains.
Was a big time prospect for the Dodgers when he
came up, Yep, you know, and they tried to fast
track him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He struggled from.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Time to time, but they got They got so many
prospects and players that we don't we don't know about
young guys that if you're Pittsburgh, you that's the first
call you should make it see the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, oh I would agree with that. By the way, Vargas, uh,
not hitting much average this year, but a little.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Pop to his bat, little pop. It was his fourth
or fifth on run this year. So yeah, got a
little pop pill pop.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And you know they're gonna sit with him now for
a while because he wasn't a highly touted prospect. Dodgers
thought he hit a ceiling. That doesn't mean he had,
but uh, they'll sit with him for a while and
give him a chance to develop them. It's good. Good
for him. He didn't have to sit outside the dike
out forlorn, staring up into the sky wondering what the
hell happened to me? What am I doing here? I
(22:00):
gotta tell you if you're if you're on a rookie
deal or you know, and the way it works is
you get so much money per year and then you
go to arbitration. I'd much rather be making that money
in Los Angeles than playing for the White Sox. Yeah,
how many years you got to go before you can
be able to do for our arbitration. I think three three,
three years. I know they did it with a lot
(22:22):
of Cody. They did it with Cody Bellingder after he
had the big, big two years and you know he's
an l MVP. They had to do something for him, right,
like you said, tattoos. But so it's three years. Yeah,
So okay, all right, So the big schedule release in
the NFL. And and actually I heard this this morning.
(22:42):
Rich and Corvino or Coveno. We're filling in for Dan
Patrick and I heard him talking about this, and I
thought that's interesting. So the schedule release, we laugh about it,
we talk about it. By the way, Uh, for younger
fans on social media, it is enormous.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The Chargers did something with mind craft and apparently it
popped more than anything any of the teams. It was spectacular.
So they do look forward to this, and social media
is the way that teams do communicate now with the
next generation of fans. Actually far more important than what
we do, at least in the club's minds. I assure
(23:19):
you of that. That's how you're talking to people. So
I saw the bill's schedule release. My daughter Hayley sent
it to me and Uh, it's Josh Allen. So he's
the star of the Bill's schedule release on TikTok, and
he had a suggestion, Kevin, I think we have it,
so go ahead and roll it. Yeah, I mean, what's up?
A little busy here?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
What's up dude?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Real quick? Uh? Schedule release video? You got anything for me?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I mean excuse I. Hey, I that's what everybody's doing.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
See what I can do.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, it'll be easy. I mean excuse I.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, excuse.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I AI AI. Thanks for doing this today. Yeah, I
don't know what I'm doing. Why am I here?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We do want you to reveal the Buffalo Bills twenty
twenty five schedule Buffalo Bill's Josh Allen Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, Josh actually sent us to shoot with you. Wow,
MVP Josh Allen, that's something for me to brag about.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He said he wanted to use AI, use AI or
the real You're the only AI I know?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Dude. Okay, so we got a real deal. Let's do
it then schedule. That's good. So the bill they said
use AI, so they went to allan. I. That's pretty cool.
Isn't that good? Yeah? It's very good, very good. And
look at the Charger one because it was just terrific.
I saw it this morning. You won't play on the
(24:54):
radio because there's no narration to it, but it's pretty good.
They really did a good job. And what they're trying
to do now is talk to the consumer where the
consumer is consuming, and that's social media. It's really smart
and the NFL is far ahead of everybody on this,
so that is killing it. Yeah, the NFL is just
(25:15):
it just know how to keep themselves in the news
cycle twenty four to seven, twelve months out of the years.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's incredible. Yeah, the Minecraft one with the targets was
pretty cool. That AI one that I like that a lot.
I like it when they get creative, it's very cool.
But just what in the world, though Fred was in
the world a schedule gets this kind of attention.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know, I know. Here here's what the NFL does
really well. Think about it like this. If you worked
in professional sports for a team, you know what the
business you're really in. If you think about it, hospitality.
You're in the hospitality business. It's as if you're running
a hotel. You're in hospitality. You have to welcome people
(26:05):
one way or another to your venue. To watch your team,
and you have to treat them that way as if
they're your guests. Okay, So in using social media, you're
encouraging people to get excited to come to your venue,
to come to your arena, to come to your stadium,
and when they get there, then you have to treat
(26:26):
them properly. So, really, working in pro sports, aside from
what's going on on the field or the court or
the diamond, you're in hospitality now. In football, because there
are so few games, everyone is that much more precious
and rotten. You've talked about that over the years as
a guy that played. The schedule release is big for
(26:50):
one very important reason. It's the determination of who plays
in the big games. So everybody basically plays once a week.
It's one day of play. Do you want to get
mixed up in all the Sunday games. Well, if you
get mixed up in all the Sunday games, and let's
say you get the ten o'clock kick our time here
(27:10):
on the West Coast, nobody's expecting that many people to
watch the one o'clock kickoff in the East, that's where
we put everybody, but the special people always go later.
And then if you're really special, you get prime time. Yeah. Now,
normally the leaders in prime time are the Dallas Cowboys.
(27:33):
They're known as America's team. Really, they haven't done much
of anything for a long period of time, but the
networks and the broadcast partners pick the teams for prime
time that they think will drive the largest audience. So
if the Cowboys were quote unquote America's team, everybody wanted
(27:54):
to get the Cowboys in primetime just theoretically you would
have more people. I don't think the Cowboys are America's
team anymore. You don't know. As a matter of fact,
I don't even think Fox wanted them in the late
window was often and their research would indicate they're not
(28:16):
drawing like they used to. But they're drawing not like
they used to, and they're not drawing like they used
to because they haven't won. And as generations change and
new people come into the fray and the fan base grows,
people don't remember the Cowboys winning.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Who's an America's team? He said, They're not an America's
team anymore. Who's America's team now?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I think the Chiefs like them or not. For whatever reason,
they have been dominated here and Patrick Mahomes for a
period of time. I believe they have seven prime time
appearances this year. Seven, Yeah, they do. Seven.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Cowboys are next with So here's the argument argument against you.
The Chiefs, you know, on the verge of being called
a dynasty. Had they won the Super Bowl and made
it three in a row, yeah, we would have been
talking to them them as the new Patriots, the new
dynasty in sports. Now they're they're a superstar team. They're
(29:21):
a great team, great organization. But I don't know if
we can call them a dynasty just yet because the
and the way they lost to the Eagles in the
Super Bowl. So it's like we're not ready to crown
them yet. Now, if they go back to the Super
Bowl this year and win it, maybe you can start
really really that can that can really take hold. But
(29:44):
if the Chiefs weren't winning, if the Chiefs weren't winning,
would they be anywhere on this list?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That's why Cowboys are the number are still America's team
because they are second on this list, and the Cowboys
haven't done anything.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
They've laid it in it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They ain't make the playoffs last year and they haven't
won and since the nineties, right, and.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yet they're on The.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Chiefs are on seven primetime games and the Cowboys are
on six with having a terrible record over the last
fifteen years. Now, if the Chiefs had the same record,
they wouldn't even be on this list. They would be
into bottom ten, same with anybody else on this So
for that reason, the Cowboys still are America's team.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well, old happens, die hard. Look at it like this, Rodney,
You and I we've just been put in charge of
NBC Sports. We get to make the decisions. So they
come to us and they say, okay, here are games
(30:57):
available to you for the Sunday Night package. What do
you think? Are you kidding me? We would both look
at them and go, I want Patrick Mahomes as many
times as you got them. How many times can I
have Patrick Mahomes. I would't even say the cheap I
want Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But you can't undersell Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift, whether
we like to admit it or not, that's part of
that equation.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Exactly, exactly exactly youre talking about, not just you know
a few new fans. They Taylor Swift moved the needle
for the NFL dramatically move the needle for the NFL
to a point where fans didn't even care about football
started watching football because of her. And so, like Kevin said,
(31:44):
whether you want to whether you hate it or not,
or you want to talk about it or not, it's
a fact that she has had a tremendous impact on
the viewership of the Kansas City Chiefs and the NFL,
which is why they've bend over backwards to take care
of her wherever she for Chief game or NFL games. So, yeah,
he has definitely moved the needle. But they do things
(32:07):
based on research. If you're running a network or a
streaming service, everything is based on research. You want the
biggest percentage of the audience to tune in. That's how
you make your money. You're promising advertiser's a certain rating. Yes,
oh honey, we're gonna we gotta go, you know, we
gotta go see Bob and Sue on Sunday night with
(32:29):
the kids who are teenagers, and we're gonna go over
to Bob and Sue's and we're gonna have some pot roast.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right. Oh wait, the Chiefs are playing at home. We're
not going to Bob and sue because the kids want
to stay home and see if they get a glimpse
of Taylor Swift in the box. Could be how do
you get be? Is? All right? So the Chiefs are
on seven times, the Cowboys six, then at five each Buffalo.
(32:59):
I get that. Josh Owen mm hm, Miami a wild card.
Shocked by that? Well, but Bud a wild card. You
don't know, Uh, Chargers Harbor effect. I think it's more
horrorball than it is justin Herbert, it's the harball. Yeah,
I'll give you that. I'm no, I'm giving you one
(33:19):
hundred percent. Then you have the Eagles. They're a national brand,
they travel well. Commanders are on five times. You know
what Jayden Daniels, Yes, he moves the needle. He moves
the needle. He must watch TV. Yeah. The Lions are
five times as well.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I mean, I wouldn't say shocking because they've they've been
in the mix for the last three four years. Dan
Campbell up there, Derek Golf has played well. They've been close,
close close. I think the Eagles are one of those teams.
I mean, the Lions are one of those teams that
if if you were to get outside of your comfort
zone or your city.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's a team that you root for. Oh, the Lions
are good. It's good that the Lions are good. I
like to see the Lions. I'm rooting for the Lions,
so I get that. I get that, and it's good
to see because ordinarily the Lions would never be as high. No. No,
Also at five the Falcons, we can't figure out why that?
What the hell is that? Yeah, it makes no sense.
Why are they there? Who wants to see them play?
(34:19):
But apparently some of thems five times yeah, forty nine
ers are also five.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Times Java Well got a big fan base, get it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Okay, So Pittsburgh normally is near the top. They're only
on four times this year in prime time. Bengals are
four times Texans exciting. You don't know what will happen?
They get four times vers right up there. Ravens weren't
up there at five with Lamar Jackson. I'm surprised they
were only four Packers only four normally they normally they're more. Yeah,
(34:56):
Vikings at four, Baker Mayfield and the Bucks at four
and the Rams at four. War Personally, I thought the
Rams would have had more. I would I did two.
I thought the Rams would be high for sure. Yeah,
So let's go to the bottom of the list. Who
don't people want to see the Saints make no prime
time appearances. No, the Browns make no primetime appearances. That's
(35:21):
Schador starts to play. Then they get flexed. Don't geting
like that? Yeah, Tennessee zero, Carolina gets one, Jacksonville gets one,
the Colts get one, and then it's just the rest
of them. If you go from the bottom up anywhere. Cardinals.
The Cardinals get two. Okay, okay, yeah, Cardinals. I think
(35:43):
that's probably too too many for them. Jets two, Bears three,
Giants Giants normally.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right there, two of the like they call him basketball
in college, right The blue Blood's the really old school,
the franchises that iconic, Raiders, Giants and Bears three only three.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, and that's it. And the Patriots get three. So
when you look at this, this is how the people
that do research view the teams that make the greatest impact.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I'll say this two fred I found this quote from
Michael Molville. He's an executive with Fox Sports. We're talking
about the Cowboys. That's how this whole discussion started. So
we said, of our four to twenty five PM. That's
Eastern our one twenty five kick here. Only three of
those this season are Cowboy games, and other years we've
gone to look for five or six games at that
time window. But this year we wanted more AFC. We
(36:44):
wanted more Philadelphia, more Detroit, and more Washington. I think
we have a better mix of teams than we've had
in the past, and we've actually had exact spiration from
fans who watched the Fox window and always complain that
the Cowboys are on at four to twenty five, So
we wanted to mix it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, they can plain because the Cowboys aren't good, correct,
The Cowboys aren't exciting. That's why they complained. I mean,
if the Cowboys were killing it, it'd be a different story.
So I'm just saying, you still have to have sustained success,
and the Cowboys have. Their success is their name, and
it hasn't been bet And they're not exciting to watch,
(37:23):
no at all. You know, they're not.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
They're not very exciting to watch, and again, to your point,
they don't they haven't won. But sometimes you get a
team that's got that kind of brand. If they're exciting
to watch. Then they still would be up there, but
the Cowboys are not at all. Look, it's like when
Charles Barfley went on TNT and he kept saying, how
how how many Laker games are we going to get
(37:46):
because of Lebron? How many they're not winning? Why are
we stuck with him? Why are we stuck with them?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Why? People want to see teams that win. Well, longevity
and equity does make a difference, but ultimately you want
to see something that's fun to watch, and according to
those that make the decisions in the NFL, Chiefs are
the number one team to watch. Okay, we'll raise the
(38:18):
curtain a little bit. How much money do the people
at USC make, really make, honestly make, legally make Rodney hey,
oh yes please?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Afternoon Delight is Somebody by Lotto. The rapper dropped this
track last night and what was her first solo release
of twenty twenty five, following up on the release of
her twenty twenty four album entitled Sugar Honey Iced Tea.
We're talking about the slow play and the release of
her singles.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
In an interview with Ebony.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
The Ohio native said, I feel like me having this
slow and steady incline has been more beneficial to me
than just blowing up super fast and then setting this
high tone that I'm forever gonna be chasing in my career.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm grateful for the baby steps again. Today's Afternoon Delight
is Somebody by Lotto. So yesterday we talked about UCLA's
problems with money in their athletic department. Yes, and her
fifty one million dollars in the hole from this year
(39:42):
and it's not getting any better, and we wondered out loud, Okay,
what would it be like in USC. How's their athletic
program doing? So let's take a look. The Times wrote
this today. For example, while UCLA is struggling all in
for last, he's in Lincoln Riley eleven and a half
million bucks. I think he's a fourth highest paid coach
(40:05):
in the country. Keep in mind, part of that eleven
and a half million is kind of against his buyout,
so he's making about ten million a year. So he's
doing fine and they can certainly afford that money. As
a matter of fact, Yes, Clay Helton, he's not even
coaching at USC anymore. He'll get it. Yeah, in twenty
(40:27):
twenty two and twenty twenty three, they paid him more
than nine point one million dollars. He's not even coaching
there anymore. They're doing okay. Jen Cohen, when she came
down from Washington to become the athletic director after Mike
bone Bone helped himself out of there, boned out part
(40:47):
in the puns. Yeah, yeah, pardon the puns. Three million dollars. Now,
some of that is her buyout from Washington, but you know,
let's call her two and a half for the hell
of it. She's making two and a half. Andy Enfield
when he was a basketball coach, he made almost five
(41:08):
million dollars four point six million. If you look at
what these people pay at USC, some people are getting
paid for doing that, got paid for doing nothing. That's
the price of doing business. If you really look at it,
you can understand why they are the halves and the
(41:29):
have nots. Yeah. Now I'm not saying that USC didn't
already mo aredy Moreno had a bit and make some
bad calls. Good. Nobody's perfect, nobody bats a thousand, no,
But they've got the money to spend, and they spend
(41:50):
it where you Seela doesn't. So then you think to yourself.
Are these both really big ten schools? Are they both
on equal footing? I can tell you Michigan spends like this,
Ohio State spends like this. Yeah, and you go to well,
(42:11):
you know, USC is a private school, so they can
you know, they can. They've got access to more funds
and they can do more things where U c l A.
I mean, we talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
UCLA has to pay cow right, they have to give
some money to CAL and other UC regent schools and
things like that. But can't you make that case for
Michigan or Michigan State or even Ohio State's a state school,
isn't it. I don't think those those are private schools.
So it's just I don't know how UCLA survives. I
(42:49):
really don't. And it used to be you know, obviously
everything in college has changed, but USC used to be
notorious for not paying it's coaches. And that was a
big knock on USC is that they, you know, at
trouble getting big time coaches because they they were very
they were at the bottom when it came to salaries
for their head coaches and then even worse for the
(43:11):
assistant coaches.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And now they're at the top.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
But I don't know how how how you said they're
working at a fifty one million dollar deficit the athletic
department at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I think it was from last just last year.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, man, yeah, And in today's world, how do you
survive athletically if you UCLA?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah? You you? How do you overcome that? You don't
have the revenue streams they're thinking if they improve the
Rose Bowl a little bit, put some suites and stuff
like that in thought'll be worth fifteen maybe fifteen twenty
million eight years.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
What six games a year that they get to jump
on that, I mean, is that really going to make
a dent?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
See? I don't think so either. I agree with you.
Six games are gonna make twenty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
So, by the way, looking at UCLA, so they've run
a deficit for six consecutive fiscal years. So their deficit
current for fifty one point eight million last year, two
hundred and nineteen and a half million dollars as of
as a total at the moment.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, bottom line.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And even if so, with all the money they're gonna
get from the Big ten, which I think is somewhere
between sixty and seventy million dollars once you end up
taking care of the stuff you need to take care of,
if you're not really biting into much of that deficit
at all.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
That's exactly right. I mean, this is gonna sound terrible
to say it, and I don't want to upset anybody
that want to UCLA, but it's like they should be
in the Mountain West Conference or they should be in
the former renewed Pack twelve where they can be more competitive. Yeah,
(44:48):
and even if they moved to either one of those conferences,
they still get a two hundred million dollar deficit.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, they'd make a lot less. They'd be in a
worship the way.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
They wouldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, I mean the whole reason they get, you know,
going to the Big ten. They you know, they're they're
benefiting from going to the Big ten because they share
that revenue. But if you, like you said Fred and
Kevin just mentioned, you go to the Mountain West, there's
a revamped Pact twelve whatever back to two and a
half or whatever it is, that that number with which
(45:18):
I think it's like seventy something million dollars if they
get a Big ten something around there.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Somewhere between sixty five and seventy five million dollars for
school in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, so that number gets cut way down, way down.
They're not even gonna come close to that if they've
moved conferences. But in today's world of college sports, where
you've got to you've got to spend money on your
student athletes, I'm sorry Fred on your athletes, thank athletes anymore?
(45:48):
How do you compete? I mean, they got the they
got the kid from Tennessee kind of fell in their
lap because it was handled poorly, I think, But who
knows how he's going to be, you know, going to
a new school and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
They kind of lucked out with that.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
But how do they compete with just the teams are
the Big ten schools on this side. They can't compete
with Oregon, They can't compete with Washington and the money
that they get that they have, and certainly can't compete
with USC and the money that they can pay their
coaches and pay you know, all the nil money and
(46:27):
all the things that comes through. You know, some of
these schools they can't compete. And the thing about it
is in this town, yes, it's it's looked upon as.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Us he's got all the money, right.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
They got a lot of wealthy folks that went to USC,
and that is true, But there are a lot of
wealthy folks that went to UCLA as well.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
There are a lot of wealthy folks and are they
just not kicking in as much as they would like
them to. Maybe maybe that's the case. See in the past,
UCLA and USC were a pretty big deal. And the
reason they were a big deal nationally is they brought
the Los Angeles television market with them. That's what made
(47:07):
them such a big deal. When you put a team
on from the second largest market, the feeling is more
people are going to watch because the population base is bigger.
That's how it works. That's why in broadcast TV you
need two cities to watch LA and New York, LA
and New York.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
And if you're all you're watching is Ohio State, Michigan
or Penn State and Texas. The folks in LA they're
not watching. But you throw a USC and UCLA in
a mix, now you've got the second largest market.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Like you said, see, so that makes sense. The problem
is UCLA doesn't have the cash shet of USC. It
just doesn't and financially it can't compete with USC, it can't,
no disrespect. But that's just the bottom line here.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
I mean part of it too is college football is
more of a national it's not regional like it used to,
so it doesn't matter. Georgia's and Athens and they'll draw
better ratings than UCLA and even when USC was down
over the last couple of years, than them. The market
size doesn't matter anymore because it's a global sport. It's
basically the NFL's to tone down NFL. It doesn't matter.
The better programs are gonna draw whether it's in Tuscaloosa
(48:20):
or Athens, Georgia, La, LA doesn't matter anymore in today's landscape.
And one thing that's gonna affect too now the athlete
students who are playing basketball and football. They're gonna end
up costing the actual student athletes at UCLA because the
next step is probably they're gonna end up having to
cut sports to save money. Yeah, yeah, you can only
(48:43):
cut so much because of the title nine. But that's
the next step because what else can.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
You do, Yeah, lacrosse and some of the lower sports,
or you're not gonna see him anymore.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
So the actual student athletes at these universities are the
ones who are gonna be affected by this.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
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