May 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Ned Colletti joins us. We discuss the Angels calling themselves 'Los Angeles' and whether that turns a lot of people off (in both LA and Orange County).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports Dodgers tonight against the Angels at the stadium,
so the Angels will have a shot at show hey
Otani during the regular season at Dodgers Stadium. By the way,
later this hour will ask the question, they are the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. That's what they're called. That's
what Ardi Moreno says they're they are Los Angeles Angels.
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Anybody want to tell me if they really are the
Los Angeles Angels? Can anybody call them? Tell us that?
And if you're listening in Orange County as opposed to
what Fred the Anaheim Angels, or if you're listening in
an Orange County later in the hour, give us a call.
Tell us how you feel about your baseball team being
called Los Angeles when they play in Anaheim. Did they
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just go back to California Angels. Fret No, they can't
do that because there are too many teams in the state. Oh,
we'll get to that coming up. We'll get to that
coming up. Kevin. Let's bring it on the man in
the big chair, Ned COLLETTI, Ned, how are you, gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm doing good. Can't wait to see the Anaheim Angels tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There you go, the Anaheim Angels. Thank you. Net. You
were in baseball when already decided to call them the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. What did you think did
that happened?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I thought it was a stretch. I thought it was
a wannabee.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He had a billboard right at the bottom of it
was alasi in Park Boulevard at that time. Now it's
been Scully Boulevard. Right at the end as you come
down the hill from from the stadium, right at sunset.
He had a big billboard about how to get season
tickets for the La Angels of Anaheim, of La whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So he was even marketing right down the street from
the ballpark. Anyway, how'd that work out?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
A lot of things haven't working on standing real quick, man,
because we talked about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Uh and you sat in a chair man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know that the little rumor mill has already started
with Paul schemes and how you know he may end
up being a being a Dodgers and whether or not
the Pirates should make a move and try to trade
him sooner rather than later, because they're never going to
be able to keep him around when they are gonna
have to pay him seven hundred million dollars when he's ready.
What do you what do you make of that from
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terms of Otani last year or two years ago when
they had an opportunity to trade and get a boat
load for him, and they decided to try to go
for it, and then the reports came out that he
also offered them an opportunity to match and they turn
around and not match it after they decided not to
trade him, that whole scenario ned. Going back at it,
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I'm sure you remember it. Just your thoughts on how
that was.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Handled, well, I think that's true death line is from
from the or not offer.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know, you're in a tough spot as a gym
because you want to compete, and if you trade this player,
you're you're telling everybody, your fans, your your players, organization,
you know we're out. We're out of it. So that
is a tough That is a tough match. You know,
I take it back a little bit further. You know
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you've had you've you've drafted ahead of the Dodgers pretty
much every year for a long time. You know, where
are the players. I mean to show, hey, if he
would have had a chance to win a title, win
a division at least, you know, it may have been
a different story, especially if if the money would have
been close to the same, or if you would have
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called back or whatever happened or it didn't happen. I
don't know any idea what happened, but I think it
goes back further than July, from a couple of years ago.
The team wasn't wasn't ready really to win, and yeah,
and then the money changes, and you know, that's where
you kind of end up. But I think the Gams
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in a tough spot in that in that position, because
once you do trade them, you're never gonna get value
for You're never gonna get full value. You may get
fifty cents on a dollar. First of all, who's got
the number of prospects they can trade you to equal
what he brings.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So we were sitting here kicking this around Ned using
the Otani example. If you're Pittsburgh, wouldn't you move Paul's
schemes sooner than later?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, it's it's almost the same story in a way,
except it's not as far along. You know, It's what
are they gonna do Yeah, I think. I mean, we
live in a great, great city with a tremendous organization,
many of them, but this one in particular, that baseball
has that dilemma with a great young pitcher that the
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team that drafted them and did some development form and
that he's started to make his mark and isn't gonna
be able to keep him. And you look at Colorado
just firing Buddy Black. They won seven or eight games.
You know, Mother's Day has gone already. You know, they're
wont They're like the great Bronco teams. They're winning one
game a week, you know. But it's it's it's a
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shame that the game is in that position. But I
think it's it's a longer wait off than that. And
I think teams thinking about it, you know, they they're
drafting and developing, is gonna become more important because for
Pittsburgh to trade him, it's like Otani. If we can
fast forward to two or three years as far as
the talent goes in a different different way, who's gonna
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Who's gonna be able to make Pittsburgh give Pittsburgh seventy
five cents on a dollar or fifty cents on a dollar.
But I think they got to hold him for a
while and unless somebody comes up with him the offer
you can't hang up from.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting because there's
no way Pittsburgh can can hold on to him.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then what when do you pull that trigger? Ned?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Were you were you surprised at all about the Austin
Barnes being DFA.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes and no, you know, I you know, first of all,
you know, we don't know everything that goes on. We
know he was a favorite inside the room and and
did a lot of great stuff that really made his
market will always be remembered as as a Dodger, you know,
and and having the career that he's had, which in
some people's minds may have exceeded where he was ten
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years ago or whenever he first came. You know, I
think you have to you have to make moves that
you hate to move, you hate to do, you know,
like t K's come and gone already. You know you
hated to do that, but sometimes you have to do
that in order to get your your team in a
better spot. And what at all also tells me is
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that you know you're talking about the veteran that has
as much right behind Clayton when it comes to service time.
If they're willing to move him on, you know, maybe
I got to pay a little bit better attention too,
so but I can't tell you I was overly surprised
by it. But again, again I don't know what goes
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on in the conversations or the room or what led
to the final decision. I'm sure it was not an
easy decision.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
All right. That being said, and we kick this around.
So you have Kim who's come up here and made
an impression. He's a fun player to watch, but he
just got here, and you don't know what's going to
happen long term. You hope that you know what we
see is what we get. But for argument's sake, let's
say what we're seeing is what we're getting. Then you
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have Tao come back, Then you have Edmund come back,
and you start to look at things, and I'm sure
that'll be James back to the minors. Okay, but maybe
somebody else has to go. And if Kim really, in
their mind can play, could Chris Taylor be next? Do
you think Ned.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Could be? But again, you're talking about even somebody with
not as much longevity as Austin but has was a
very very important player for a long time. But again,
you know that the best teams, you know, they're they
have great hearts for people, but they also have to
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make some tough decisions sometimes and and move people out
that have been there for a long time and have
done a lot of different things. I think if they're sure,
if they're sure about Kim, I think then you know
you're gonna have to probably make that type of move.
But you know what happens in the game too. Guys
are all you know, guys already banged up at six
seven weeks in that just have an il list a
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long time. Maybe somebody goes on the ill for a while,
give them a little bit more time to figure it
out and and go from there. You know, that happens
quite a bit. Everybody's got something right now. It's not
tough to find somebody in the room that that needs
a couple of weeks. But that's what happens. As your
team gets better, as your team gets younger, as you
start to transition, as guys start to fall off for
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a period of time. It's that's the nature of the
business like it or not.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, now, yeah, and it's a it's a tough part
of the business, as you well know. Another tough part
and that you know, the reports are that Roki Sazaki
has been dealing with the the arm soreness and injury
a little bit for a period of time. It didn't
really let the staff know have you dealt with something
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like that before? Where and I and I get it.
I was telling Fred the other day. When you're a
young kid and you're you know, there's a lot of
expectations on you, and you're coming to a new situation,
the last thing you want to do is be that
that that kid is hurt or the kid that's in
the tub, because you can't make the club in the tub,
and and you don't want to tell anybody that you're
hurt because and then given the Dodgers pitching situation, he
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doesn't want to add to that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That injury list.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
How do you deal with that when you find out
that the kid has been holding back on you a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, you got to have a conversation where you say, hey, look,
you know you don't need to do that. You need
you know, you need to be open with us all
the time. You're gonna be with us for a long time.
You're you're part of our group. We need we need
everybody to be okay. We need everybody to be be
open with how they're feeling and how they're doing, because
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a lot of times when somebody is hurt, something else
sends up getting hurt too because they start to favor
another part of their body or a different part of
body's got to pick it up right, you know. You've've
probably been through that, you know, and so you know
the clarity of it is important, and you've got to
You've got to do it. But it's not just it's
just not it's just not the kids said do it.
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It's it's veterans. I can remember no more. You know.
He was on we call it a d L back
then and I said, are you okay to play? And
he goes yeah, And I said, you wouldn't lie to
me now, and he goes, why I lie to you
about this?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's there has no age limit to it, you know.
And we still talk to each other, and I'll talk
to each other all the time. And I laugh when
I think back to that. I mean, he wanted to
play so bad here's the guy that had his career
already you know in my mind Hall of Fame player,
and he said, no, no, I can play. I can play.
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I can play. Are you lying to me? Well on this,
I am, but yeah, you know I wouldn't lie the otherwise.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Hey, Now you look at James Outman and he has
struggled since he came back. I mean, home run last night,
But I think it's going to be too little, too
late when everybody comes back. He's going back to the minors.
But given what he has done in his struggles since
he came out of the box pretty strong, is that
going to be the end of James Outvin with the Dodgers?
Do you think do you think they try to move him?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, it could be again, nobody knows that play better
than the team he's with, and they know what instruction
he's been through, what he's done, what he hasn't done,
the way he's been able to adjust or not adjust
as whatever the case may be. So you know that's
that goes again deeper. You know you've had conversations, you
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know what you've taught, you know what you've explained. You
know it's been a little while now too. It hasn't
been like it's just been this last six weeks. You know,
he's struggled after a big first year. He struggled for
a little bit of time now. So it depends on
where you got dept. And and what else you can do.
There's a lot of different factors you got to think about.
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But I would think, you know, this is a game
of production, This is a game of results. As we
say all the time, you know this isn't everything is
there to see, and you know they've I'm sure that
the hitting guys have worked with them and in both
sitch at both places here and through the minor leagues.
And if the struggles aren't fixable, or there's the pressure
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is different or whatever, then yeah, you've probably got to
make that move. But you'll you'll wait as long as
you can to do it. You'll find reasons not to
do it. If people are good people and you've got
an affinity form and you know them, and you know
that it's just a situation they happen to be in,
you give them as much time as you possibly can.
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That says, you know, that said you know you can't
you can't give somebody so much time that it detracts
from the club and makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Hey, now your players know when they're going through this
Austin Barnes or struggling James Outman, obviously, are they aware
of the fact that they're on a bubble? Do you
have to come down from the front office and have
conversations with them or do they pretty much know, Uh,
things aren't going well for me and something could happen.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I think any player that doesn't know ain't paying attention.
I think they.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Laugh.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know that that you know, being in the building,
I understand exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Better know, Yeah, I mean guys know you know, and
and they know you know, you know, they'll give you
a look like, oh, you know, I really you know,
I really hate seeing this guy today, you know, and
I have to look at and say, hey, how are
we looking today?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
How you doing? I mean, you know, they know, they
all know, you know. The game tells them, the competition
tells them there ain't there ain't any any surprises to it.
I I just tell you, look, I'm the messenger. Good yeah, no,
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it's been but the game is telling you, yeah, yeah,
the game is telling you. I'm just giding.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
We'll tell you, yeah, hey, hey, so.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Matt, you know you look up at the at the
Dodgers and you you know, you know because you can
just pull the curtain back for us when you're if
you're in this, you know you're in the organization right now,
You're you're Dave Roberts and the staff, your freedman and
the staff, and you're looking at this and how you're doing. You're,
you know, right now, May sixteenth, you're a game up
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on the Padres. Yet you have all of these injuries
and you're you're you're pitching staff has pretty much been decimated,
but you know you're getting these guys back. Look Kershaw's
Koschcharw's coming back to what tomorrow or Sunday?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And you look up. You're still a game up.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
On on on a very good Padre team and a
tough division. Do you look at this and go, man,
we are not even at full strength and we're still
doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And let's just let.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It play out through the summer when we get these
guys healthy and then see what we really are. Because
from a fan standpoint, everybody thinks you should be leading
the division by ten games already right now, and that's
not going to be the case. But the Dodgers are
doing this when they're not healthy. Is you're looking around
and you're the other teams around the league. Don't you
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look at that too and go, man, they're still in
first place and they're missing eighteen million guys.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well that is true. I mean you do look at
it that way. But the way the division is shaping
up a little bit, and I'm not sure what the
number is. I think a glance set a week ago
or so, maybe when they were playing Arizona and people
were right and about their record against teams. You know,
they haven't played many teams in the division, and you
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know Colorado's an outlier. You know, that's gonna be a
test for everybody. It's gonna be a test for those chasing,
and it's gonna be a test for the Dodgers, and
then hopefully they'll be getting getting some of their key
guys back by then. But I think that this I
think this race will be decided by how people do
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head to head, how they do inside the division. And
you know, I spent some time doing this World Baseball
Classic Team Italy thing. I spend time in ballparks all
the time. In fact, I'll be in uh in Dodger
Stadium and I watching whoever they're playing. The Angels, I
guess we can keep that name straight. But you know,
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I've been in San Diego. I've been around, and you
know you're talking to people all the time. You know,
everybody's everybody feels good about where they're at. The Padres
really feel good about where they're sitting right right now,
and so the so the Giants, and so do the DBAG.
So there's a chance that this division is gonna stay
tough all the way through. I think it'll come down
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to who beats who, and who's got a chance before
you get to the end to take a quick breath
where you can you don't have to push guys to
the limit, Where you don't have to run your pitchers
out there extra innings or different situations, or a hitter
needs a couple of days, you can give them a
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couple of days. I think that will tell a little
bit of a story too. But it's been an interesting division.
I expected the Dodgers to put some space in between.
But you know what, that San Diego team keeps on playing,
They keep on going they don't have the ownership situation
the Dodgers have. They're trying to cut payroll even though
probably that they're sitting where they're sitting. But I think
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it'll be interesting whoever, whoever comes out of the head
to head play inside the division is going to have
an upper half.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
All Right, that appreciated. Thanks for jumping on today.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
No, don't god.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Don't go, don't go.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh oh is he getting is he getting worried?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Thank god they won nineteen to two last night. Need
so he's not so bad. But man, it's coming.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, have a good weekend, Ronnie, for as long as
you can.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Thanks buddy. Thanks man. All right, So I loved that
story about the Angels at the top of the interview.
All Right, so, now you live in southern California, and
of course we speak of this all the time. But
I'm really curious. Is anybody upset or offended by the
fact that the Angels call themselves the Los Angeles Angels Anaheim.
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I mean, we're on the record, they have nothing to
do with Los Angeles. Zero. I think it's a insulting
to the people in Orange County. I think it's a
giant slap right in the middle of their face that
the owner of the team doesn't have enough respect for
the people to call the team by the city in
which it plays. Does that bother you? Am I out
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of bounds here? What do you think cause these two
teams get ready to play, the Los Angeles Angels of
Anaheim against the Los Angeles Dodgers don't bother you at all?
Eight six six nine eight seven two five seventy. What
do you think, Rodney? Will anybody say that was a
good idea?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, you get some marketing folks on here, they will
say it's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, Well, if you work in marketing, call if you
live in Orange County, we really want you to call.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh yes, it is a we don't care freaky Friday
and a happy birthday, A big shout out happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To miss Jackson. If you're nasty, Jannet Jackson's birthday today? Right? All,
come on, Freddy, okay, Rodney? So the question now, as
the Angels and UH Dodgers get ready to go at
the stadium tonight, what do you think of the Angels
being called the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? Does that
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bother you? If you live in Orange County at all?
Does it offend you if you live in LA Does
it make any sense to your period unless you work
in marketing and you're more than welcome to calls at
eight sixty six ninety seven, two five seventy. Okay, let's
go out to Lakewood. Elder is on the phone. Elder,
are you offended by this?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'm not offended by it.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I actually grew up in Angels fan, but eventually, you know,
the Dodgers have been my team. I think it's a
little disappointing that they don't get the recognition that they deserve. Right,
They've always been a fabric of southern California, being the
California Angels, the La Angels of Anaheim, the Anaheim Angels,
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and you gotta think they I mean, they won a
championship in two thousand and two. I just think it's
it's unfortunate that, you know, being from Anaheim, that they
just don't get the recognition that they deserve. I mean,
they should be the Anaheim Angels, right. They've always played
at the big games, So I don't I don't find
it disappointing. I just wish, you know, they would give
more of the recognition, at least from the ownership group
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that they deserve appreciating.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Remember, wait, wait, you grew up, but you grew up
an Angel fan. Where do you live? Are you from
Orange County? He's gone, he's gone. Okay, but remember this.
They have not always played in Anaheim. No, their early
years were in Los Angeles. Now it was very brief,
very brief, but they did play here in Los Angeles.
And when they did, they were the Los Angeles Angels.
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Then they became the California Angels.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Right. See, for my money, i'd be the Anaheim Angels
or and Kevin, I think you pointed this out before
that I'm wrong. I'd be the Orange County Angels, Orange
County Angels, the Angels. No, No, what other what other
team is a countye county?
Speaker 7 (23:08):
No?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
They were LA initially when they were a minor league team.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Then they became California, then they became Anaheim.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, but I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Count of LA of a county of No. No, fred No,
they either and so but you said earlier they can't
be the California Angels because there's other teams in California.
There's always been other teams in California. When they were
the California Angels. What's wrong with that? The Giants were.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Here, yes, they were not when they when they started
the Angels started.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No, but they were the California Patres were here when
their name was the California Angels. So there were three
other teams playing in California, yet they were still the
California Angels.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So what's wrong with the California Angels. Nothing? Really, But
then I still like, you know, and I understand, you
can't be a county, but Orange County. He has a
lot of cities in it. I think it'd be kind
of cool to be the OC Angels. Now, that's me
Sasha in La Sasha, are you offended by this?
Speaker 10 (24:11):
I am so offended by this as an LA Dodger fan.
It's just like, get out of here. You're not in
La County, You're an Orange County and like it's just like,
there's a reason why Otani came to the Los Angeles
Dodgers versus the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. It's just ridiculous.
That's a mouthful, and just call yourselves and to Anaheim Angels, like,
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get over it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Good point, Sasha, thank you, thank you for listening six
six ninety if you want to.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Weigh in to the point, to the point, yeah, why
are you trying? I mean, I'd be interested to see
the marketing. That's why I wanted to see if a
marketing person could could jump on to see what the
revenue difference was or because that's what they claimed that
they wanted to do it for marketing reasons, that they
wanted to be called the Los Angeles Angels and has
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that boosted their revenue by becoming the Los Angeles Angels?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Look, everybody bagged on the Chargers when they moved up
here from San Diego and now they're LA Chargers. But
we all knew this, and football is a different animal
than than baseball. But as soon as they became the
LA Chargers, their valuation went dramatically up. Yeah, from being
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the San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, absolutely, but not as high as it would have
been because they don't know the stadium. True. Okay, let's
see who else we have online here? All right, stand
in Seemi Valley, Stan, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yes? I feel is.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
That it's just like that old thing you could put
a makeup on a pig.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
It's still going to be a pig.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Well, the Angeles got to get a good team or
else they're.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Still never going to get respect no matter what you
call them.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's fair, that's an accurate statement. Thanks, Sam, appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So if they're winning, it doesn't matter what you call
them that people would be more receptive to it if
they were winning.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If they were winning, people would overlook the name. Yeah, no,
you don't think so. No, I still don't think so.
I still think this is the ultimate.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Were they Ani Angels when they want it? In two
thousand and two, I think so.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah. Yeah, that was the last year in Disney, and
they changed the name to the La Angels and they
haven't one sense correct. Well, Arty Moreno came in and
he thought he could make a book, and he thought,
in your correct Rodney. He thought that national advertisers or
sponsors would be more app to advertise or become a
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partner of the Angels if they thought it was Los Angeles.
Here's what people don't understand about Orange County. Orange County
is a giant area. It's not just Anaheim. I know
you want to call them the Anaheim Angels. Orange County
is huge. Orange County is a population wise maybe the
fifth largest city. And those cities are all close together
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down there, so put them together.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, Newport Beach and you know, Lagooner, Irvine, Lagoona, all
of those.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, right, I mean so there's a lot of value, yeah,
all of it. Yeah, it really is. And I have
to say this actually a lot of money, a lot
of money. And that's real money. What do you mean
as opposed to what you know? Those people have their money.
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They're not trying to oh move this to get that. No,
they've got money. And they would be a very fur
ground for advertising.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It would be because they and they're proud. People from
Orange County are proud to say they're from Orange County.
Now we look at them differently. We're up here and
maybe turn our nose up at him a little bit.
Orange County, Oh you're a Orange County or the Orange
people call it the Orange curtain. But yeah, but there's
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a lot of pride from the folks that live in
Orange County.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Indeed. Indeed, so embrace it, is what you're saying, Fred, right,
embrace it, Embrace it all right, we've got a full
board and we're up against the break. So Ronnie, let's
go to break and when we come back, if you're there,
we're gonna take you. We'll go all the way to
the top of the hour. Because now people want to
talk about this.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Come on, Fred, let's keep it moving. Fred, Well on
a Friday, lot going on and a high Angels of
Orange County, come on, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Let's do this. Let's continue the calls. Thanks for holding.
Are you offended? Does it bother you that the Angels
can prefer to themselves as Los Angeles eight six six
seven five seventy. I appreciate you holding during the break
George in La. Now, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (29:17):
You know the bigger question is is like does it
even matter? I mean, they're just a confused organization. You know,
they don't really have fans. They have more supporters than anything.
I mean, just look at Mike Trout. I mean, like
one of the best players in the last ten to fifteen years.
Nobody even knows who the hell he is. I mean,
you you go to the Angels organization basically to hide.
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It could be like the new you know, witness Protection
program because no one would think to look. It doesn't matter.
They could be the Tory Pines Angels for all I care.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's all about the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Go blue. Yeah, okay, Tory Pines. That was impressive. Let's
go to Riverside. Chris is out there, Chris. Are you offended?
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Oh yes, I am.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
When you when you want to go get a.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Taco, you go to King Taco. You don't go to
Javier's if you're from La Okay, unless it's a special occasion.
And the only thing that I like about the Angels
is they beat the Giants when they did win the
World Series.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
All right, thanks, okay, I see, I knew. I knew
people would be offended. Casey in Thousand Oaks, Casey, thanks
for holding What do you think? Are you offended by
the fact that the Angels from Anaheim call themselves Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
I don't even know that the Angels exist except for
Mike Trout has been wasted there forever, So to be
offended by the Angels are kind of like that old
cartoon with the bulldog and the dog jumping around. That's
the Angels, and that's how they've always been and that's
how they'll always be.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
All right, Wow, appreciate that. That's a little harsh on
the dam Angels. All right, Well he's not offended, but
I'll tell you who is Anthony and La Anthony.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Go ahead, Well hello there, Fred, Hello Rodney. Hell, this
is the guy that looks like this is a guy
that looks like Dusty Baker as she Fred.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay, all right, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Me being at Angelino since nineteen sixty. So I turned
sixty five next month. I'm old enough to remember what teams,
what newspapers were in this city. And I'm telling you,
California Angels should have never changed their name. They'll always
be the California Angels to me. But my team, my
baseball team, is the Los Angeles Doddors. Always have been,
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always will be.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, Anthony, appreciate it. Darte, Fred, I hear you
in Dwarte. Terry is on the line. Terry, what do
you think about that decision?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, it's Terry. And how you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I can't read?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So I watched Anaheim Stadium. I watched Anaheim Stadium be
built as a kid.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I grew was.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Born and grew up in Orange, California, and loved it
and still go there. And you know, it's just disappointing
because that was our like stadium, that was Angel Stadium.
And you know, it's just one of the thousands, or
I wouldn't say thousands, dozens of mistakes that Artie Marino
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has made over the years, putting in that big, ridiculous
rock in the middle of the center field, and you know,
just all the stupid ass things that he has done.
I mean, all you have to do is, you know,
it's a list, a laundry list, and it's wrecked the team,
it's wrecked the motivation of people to go there. And
it's really a beautiful stadium and it's so easy to
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get in and out of. But you know, it's just there.
It's Angel Stadium. Come on, it's you know it isn't
We're not in Los Angeles. Proud to be from Orange County.
I'm from Orange, California, grew up there and I loved
it and it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
All right, thank you for the call. And that's my point.
If you're from Orange County, you should be proud of that,
and most people are. So why would you want your
team to have the name of another city on it.
It's a slap in the face of the people in
Orange County. Now we'll go to North Dakota. So I
assume Todd is listening on the app if he's in
North Dakota. Todd, are you in North Dakota?
Speaker 9 (33:27):
No, right now, I'm sitting here in Redoondo Beach, California.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Why did you from North Dakota? Did you tell me
you're in North Dakota?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (33:37):
If you guys born and born and raised Minnesota Twins fan,
you know, and Vikings and timber Wolves and stuff.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
But I also lived with North Dakota.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
That's a fair question. But see, North Dakota doesn't have
any professional sports Minnesota, all right, so we we rooted
sure for the Minnesota teams.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Stop Todd, do you live here now? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
I moved out here. I'm here for a little while.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Well, then why would you tell Kevin you were from
North Dakota when you're in Rodondo Beach.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Well, I'm there for a little bit. North Kolda is
still home, all right, I go back and forth. North
Dakota is still home.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yes, okay. Just want to make sure they got a
lot of bison.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Up there in North Dakota or no, I'm sorry, what they.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Got any bison? Up there in North Dakota.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yes, And at one time, many many years ago, I
owned a few did Yeah, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What did you do? Uh?
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Donated them to uh like boys clubs and stuff like that,
and next to them with beef and had a big
burger for either.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, all right, all right, go ahead, Well yeah it
really did. I mean, I thought we were moving on. So, Todd,
are you offended by this or not?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Well?
Speaker 9 (35:05):
I got if I may, I got just a little
bit tweak it, just a little bit because I'm a
little bit curious about something. I would guess the owner,
mister moron guy has to be a millionaire multimillionaire, right,
or you don't get to own a professional baseball team.
And I don't know if he inherited the money or not,
but so I guess my kind of question is to you, gentlemen,
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is how did he let get away for absolutely zero
zero return. He's not a stupid man, and he had
to know somewhere along the line that hey, this is
slipping away and I'm not going to get anything for
this guy. And so I'm kind of how did that happen?
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And by the way, Rodney, I also lived in Tucson,
Arizona for fourteen years when you were high schooler and
in the day when, yes back when, the day when
Dick told me was to football coach and Luke Olson
lost a basketball coach from North Dakota. You know, I
was there when you were there, and of course you
were kind of were kind of not a trader, but
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you picked the wrong school any rate, I'm kind of
curious about all right, he's a businessman. How does that
happen that?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We're good? We're good, thank you, Todd. Apparently in witness protection.
He hails from North Dakota, spent time in Tucson, but
currently is hanging out in Redondo Beach. And we'll we'll
talk about that next hour, Todd, because that's gonna take
a little while. Ryan in uh where Ryan Irvine?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Are you offended?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You guys?
Speaker 7 (36:47):
At this point, it's like, think about it this way.
Is it the New York Nets of Brooklyn? Is it
the La Clippers of Inglewood? Like, come on, man, Like,
at this point, it's just embarrassing if you watch and
it's like, man, you have no identity, You're not reaching
out to any specific market. And then on top of that,
the Dodgers punk the little brother and take Otani onto
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their team. So it's like, at this point, it's kind
of like, man, just stop you guys. This is embarrassing.
Although I will tell you what does offend me is
that I live in Orange County. My daughters are like, Dad,
I want to go to our our local baseball team,
the Angels. What a cool name. I want to see
them play. After one game, my daughters are like, Dad,
I don't think I like baseball. This is horrible.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
I was like, Okay, now that offends me. Man, I.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Will I will make one hot take real quick. You
guys want one quick hot take, I will. I will
step out on record and say the Angels will never
win championship until they get Los Angeles out of their name.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
All right. Ryan appreciates the stretch. I don't know if
that's a stretch. Okay, one hour to go.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
We will learn more about the Dodger opponent, because, let's
face it, if you listen to the Dodger radio station,
you do not follow their opponent very closely. So Sam
Blum will join us next. We'll get caught up on that.
Oh and by the way, if you work in the
fitness industry. There is a job available. I've got the
job posting, and I'm going to read it for you
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this upcoming hour
And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five
seventy LA Sports Dodgers tonight against the Angels at the stadium,
so the Angels will have a shot at show hey
Otani during the regular season at Dodgers Stadium. By the way,
later this hour will ask the question, they are the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. That's what they're called. That's
what Ardi Moreno says they're they are Los Angeles Angels.
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Anybody want to tell me if they really are the
Los Angeles Angels? Can anybody call them? Tell us that?
And if you're listening in Orange County as opposed to
what Fred the Anaheim Angels, or if you're listening in
an Orange County later in the hour, give us a call.
Tell us how you feel about your baseball team being
called Los Angeles when they play in Anaheim. Did they
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just go back to California Angels. Fret No, they can't
do that because there are too many teams in the state. Oh,
we'll get to that coming up. We'll get to that
coming up. Kevin. Let's bring it on the man in
the big chair, Ned COLLETTI, Ned, how are you, gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm doing good. Can't wait to see the Anaheim Angels tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There you go, the Anaheim Angels. Thank you. Net. You
were in baseball when already decided to call them the
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. What did you think did
that happened?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I thought it was a stretch. I thought it was
a wannabee.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He had a billboard right at the bottom of it
was alasi in Park Boulevard at that time. Now it's
been Scully Boulevard. Right at the end as you come
down the hill from from the stadium, right at sunset.
He had a big billboard about how to get season
tickets for the La Angels of Anaheim, of La whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So he was even marketing right down the street from
the ballpark. Anyway, how'd that work out?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
A lot of things haven't working on standing real quick, man,
because we talked about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Uh and you sat in a chair man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know that the little rumor mill has already started
with Paul schemes and how you know he may end
up being a being a Dodgers and whether or not
the Pirates should make a move and try to trade
him sooner rather than later, because they're never going to
be able to keep him around when they are gonna
have to pay him seven hundred million dollars when he's ready.
What do you what do you make of that from
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terms of Otani last year or two years ago when
they had an opportunity to trade and get a boat
load for him, and they decided to try to go
for it, and then the reports came out that he
also offered them an opportunity to match and they turn
around and not match it after they decided not to
trade him, that whole scenario ned. Going back at it,
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I'm sure you remember it. Just your thoughts on how
that was.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Handled, well, I think that's true death line is from
from the or not offer.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know, you're in a tough spot as a gym
because you want to compete, and if you trade this player,
you're you're telling everybody, your fans, your your players, organization,
you know we're out. We're out of it. So that
is a tough That is a tough match. You know,
I take it back a little bit further. You know
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you've had you've you've drafted ahead of the Dodgers pretty
much every year for a long time. You know, where
are the players. I mean to show, hey, if he
would have had a chance to win a title, win
a division at least, you know, it may have been
a different story, especially if if the money would have
been close to the same, or if you would have
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called back or whatever happened or it didn't happen. I
don't know any idea what happened, but I think it
goes back further than July, from a couple of years ago.
The team wasn't wasn't ready really to win, and yeah,
and then the money changes, and you know, that's where
you kind of end up. But I think the Gams
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in a tough spot in that in that position, because
once you do trade them, you're never gonna get value
for You're never gonna get full value. You may get
fifty cents on a dollar. First of all, who's got
the number of prospects they can trade you to equal
what he brings.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So we were sitting here kicking this around Ned using
the Otani example. If you're Pittsburgh, wouldn't you move Paul's
schemes sooner than later?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, it's it's almost the same story in a way,
except it's not as far along. You know, It's what
are they gonna do Yeah, I think. I mean, we
live in a great, great city with a tremendous organization,
many of them, but this one in particular, that baseball
has that dilemma with a great young pitcher that the
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team that drafted them and did some development form and
that he's started to make his mark and isn't gonna
be able to keep him. And you look at Colorado
just firing Buddy Black. They won seven or eight games.
You know, Mother's Day has gone already. You know, they're
wont They're like the great Bronco teams. They're winning one
game a week, you know. But it's it's it's a
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shame that the game is in that position. But I
think it's it's a longer wait off than that. And
I think teams thinking about it, you know, they they're
drafting and developing, is gonna become more important because for
Pittsburgh to trade him, it's like Otani. If we can
fast forward to two or three years as far as
the talent goes in a different different way, who's gonna
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Who's gonna be able to make Pittsburgh give Pittsburgh seventy
five cents on a dollar or fifty cents on a dollar.
But I think they got to hold him for a
while and unless somebody comes up with him the offer
you can't hang up from.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting because there's
no way Pittsburgh can can hold on to him.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then what when do you pull that trigger? Ned?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Were you were you surprised at all about the Austin
Barnes being DFA.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes and no, you know, I you know, first of all,
you know, we don't know everything that goes on. We
know he was a favorite inside the room and and
did a lot of great stuff that really made his
market will always be remembered as as a Dodger, you know,
and and having the career that he's had, which in
some people's minds may have exceeded where he was ten
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years ago or whenever he first came. You know, I
think you have to you have to make moves that
you hate to move, you hate to do, you know,
like t K's come and gone already. You know you
hated to do that, but sometimes you have to do
that in order to get your your team in a
better spot. And what at all also tells me is
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that you know you're talking about the veteran that has
as much right behind Clayton when it comes to service time.
If they're willing to move him on, you know, maybe
I got to pay a little bit better attention too,
so but I can't tell you I was overly surprised
by it. But again, again I don't know what goes
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on in the conversations or the room or what led
to the final decision. I'm sure it was not an
easy decision.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
All right. That being said, and we kick this around.
So you have Kim who's come up here and made
an impression. He's a fun player to watch, but he
just got here, and you don't know what's going to
happen long term. You hope that you know what we
see is what we get. But for argument's sake, let's
say what we're seeing is what we're getting. Then you
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have Tao come back, Then you have Edmund come back,
and you start to look at things, and I'm sure
that'll be James back to the minors. Okay, but maybe
somebody else has to go. And if Kim really, in
their mind can play, could Chris Taylor be next? Do
you think Ned.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Could be? But again, you're talking about even somebody with
not as much longevity as Austin but has was a
very very important player for a long time. But again,
you know that the best teams, you know, they're they
have great hearts for people, but they also have to
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make some tough decisions sometimes and and move people out
that have been there for a long time and have
done a lot of different things. I think if they're sure,
if they're sure about Kim, I think then you know
you're gonna have to probably make that type of move.
But you know what happens in the game too. Guys
are all you know, guys already banged up at six
seven weeks in that just have an il list a
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long time. Maybe somebody goes on the ill for a while,
give them a little bit more time to figure it
out and and go from there. You know, that happens
quite a bit. Everybody's got something right now. It's not
tough to find somebody in the room that that needs
a couple of weeks. But that's what happens. As your
team gets better, as your team gets younger, as you
start to transition, as guys start to fall off for
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a period of time. It's that's the nature of the
business like it or not.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, now, yeah, and it's a it's a tough part
of the business, as you well know. Another tough part
and that you know, the reports are that Roki Sazaki
has been dealing with the the arm soreness and injury
a little bit for a period of time. It didn't
really let the staff know have you dealt with something
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like that before? Where and I and I get it.
I was telling Fred the other day. When you're a
young kid and you're you know, there's a lot of
expectations on you, and you're coming to a new situation,
the last thing you want to do is be that
that that kid is hurt or the kid that's in
the tub, because you can't make the club in the tub,
and and you don't want to tell anybody that you're
hurt because and then given the Dodgers pitching situation, he
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doesn't want to add to that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That injury list.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
How do you deal with that when you find out
that the kid has been holding back on you a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, you got to have a conversation where you say, hey, look,
you know you don't need to do that. You need
you know, you need to be open with us all
the time. You're gonna be with us for a long time.
You're you're part of our group. We need we need
everybody to be okay. We need everybody to be be
open with how they're feeling and how they're doing, because
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a lot of times when somebody is hurt, something else
sends up getting hurt too because they start to favor
another part of their body or a different part of
body's got to pick it up right, you know. You've've
probably been through that, you know, and so you know
the clarity of it is important, and you've got to
You've got to do it. But it's not just it's
just not it's just not the kids said do it.
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It's it's veterans. I can remember no more. You know.
He was on we call it a d L back
then and I said, are you okay to play? And
he goes yeah, And I said, you wouldn't lie to
me now, and he goes, why I lie to you
about this?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's there has no age limit to it, you know.
And we still talk to each other, and I'll talk
to each other all the time. And I laugh when
I think back to that. I mean, he wanted to
play so bad here's the guy that had his career
already you know in my mind Hall of Fame player,
and he said, no, no, I can play. I can play.
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I can play. Are you lying to me? Well on this,
I am, but yeah, you know I wouldn't lie the otherwise.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Hey, Now you look at James Outman and he has
struggled since he came back. I mean, home run last night,
But I think it's going to be too little, too
late when everybody comes back. He's going back to the minors.
But given what he has done in his struggles since
he came out of the box pretty strong, is that
going to be the end of James Outvin with the Dodgers?
Do you think do you think they try to move him?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, it could be again, nobody knows that play better
than the team he's with, and they know what instruction
he's been through, what he's done, what he hasn't done,
the way he's been able to adjust or not adjust
as whatever the case may be. So you know that's
that goes again deeper. You know you've had conversations, you
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know what you've taught, you know what you've explained. You
know it's been a little while now too. It hasn't
been like it's just been this last six weeks. You know,
he's struggled after a big first year. He struggled for
a little bit of time now. So it depends on
where you got dept. And and what else you can do.
There's a lot of different factors you got to think about.
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But I would think, you know, this is a game
of production, This is a game of results. As we
say all the time, you know this isn't everything is
there to see, and you know they've I'm sure that
the hitting guys have worked with them and in both
sitch at both places here and through the minor leagues.
And if the struggles aren't fixable, or there's the pressure
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is different or whatever, then yeah, you've probably got to
make that move. But you'll you'll wait as long as
you can to do it. You'll find reasons not to
do it. If people are good people and you've got
an affinity form and you know them, and you know
that it's just a situation they happen to be in,
you give them as much time as you possibly can.
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That says, you know, that said you know you can't
you can't give somebody so much time that it detracts
from the club and makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Hey, now your players know when they're going through this
Austin Barnes or struggling James Outman, obviously, are they aware
of the fact that they're on a bubble? Do you
have to come down from the front office and have
conversations with them or do they pretty much know, Uh,
things aren't going well for me and something could happen.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I think any player that doesn't know ain't paying attention.
I think they.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Laugh.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know that that you know, being in the building,
I understand exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Better know, Yeah, I mean guys know you know, and
and they know you know, you know, they'll give you
a look like, oh, you know, I really you know,
I really hate seeing this guy today, you know, and
I have to look at and say, hey, how are
we looking today?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
How you doing? I mean, you know, they know, they
all know, you know. The game tells them, the competition
tells them there ain't there ain't any any surprises to it.
I I just tell you, look, I'm the messenger. Good yeah, no,
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it's been but the game is telling you, yeah, yeah,
the game is telling you. I'm just giding.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
We'll tell you, yeah, hey, hey, so.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Matt, you know you look up at the at the
Dodgers and you you know, you know because you can
just pull the curtain back for us when you're if
you're in this, you know you're in the organization right now,
You're you're Dave Roberts and the staff, your freedman and
the staff, and you're looking at this and how you're doing. You're,
you know, right now, May sixteenth, you're a game up
(15:38):
on the Padres. Yet you have all of these injuries
and you're you're you're pitching staff has pretty much been decimated,
but you know you're getting these guys back. Look Kershaw's
Koschcharw's coming back to what tomorrow or Sunday?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And you look up. You're still a game up.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
On on on a very good Padre team and a
tough division. Do you look at this and go, man,
we are not even at full strength and we're still
doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And let's just let.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It play out through the summer when we get these
guys healthy and then see what we really are. Because
from a fan standpoint, everybody thinks you should be leading
the division by ten games already right now, and that's
not going to be the case. But the Dodgers are
doing this when they're not healthy. Is you're looking around
and you're the other teams around the league. Don't you
(16:36):
look at that too and go, man, they're still in
first place and they're missing eighteen million guys.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well that is true. I mean you do look at
it that way. But the way the division is shaping
up a little bit, and I'm not sure what the
number is. I think a glance set a week ago
or so, maybe when they were playing Arizona and people
were right and about their record against teams. You know,
they haven't played many teams in the division, and you
(17:04):
know Colorado's an outlier. You know, that's gonna be a
test for everybody. It's gonna be a test for those chasing,
and it's gonna be a test for the Dodgers, and
then hopefully they'll be getting getting some of their key
guys back by then. But I think that this I
think this race will be decided by how people do
(17:25):
head to head, how they do inside the division. And
you know, I spent some time doing this World Baseball
Classic Team Italy thing. I spend time in ballparks all
the time. In fact, I'll be in uh in Dodger
Stadium and I watching whoever they're playing. The Angels, I
guess we can keep that name straight. But you know,
(17:47):
I've been in San Diego. I've been around, and you
know you're talking to people all the time. You know,
everybody's everybody feels good about where they're at. The Padres
really feel good about where they're sitting right right now,
and so the so the Giants, and so do the DBAG.
So there's a chance that this division is gonna stay
tough all the way through. I think it'll come down
(18:09):
to who beats who, and who's got a chance before
you get to the end to take a quick breath
where you can you don't have to push guys to
the limit, Where you don't have to run your pitchers
out there extra innings or different situations, or a hitter
needs a couple of days, you can give them a
(18:30):
couple of days. I think that will tell a little
bit of a story too. But it's been an interesting division.
I expected the Dodgers to put some space in between.
But you know what, that San Diego team keeps on playing,
They keep on going they don't have the ownership situation
the Dodgers have. They're trying to cut payroll even though
probably that they're sitting where they're sitting. But I think
(18:54):
it'll be interesting whoever, whoever comes out of the head
to head play inside the division is going to have
an upper half.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
All Right, that appreciated. Thanks for jumping on today.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
No, don't god.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Don't go, don't go.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh oh is he getting is he getting worried?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Thank god they won nineteen to two last night. Need
so he's not so bad. But man, it's coming.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, have a good weekend, Ronnie, for as long as
you can.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Thanks buddy. Thanks man. All right, So I loved that
story about the Angels at the top of the interview.
All Right, so, now you live in southern California, and
of course we speak of this all the time. But
I'm really curious. Is anybody upset or offended by the
fact that the Angels call themselves the Los Angeles Angels Anaheim.
(19:53):
I mean, we're on the record, they have nothing to
do with Los Angeles. Zero. I think it's a insulting
to the people in Orange County. I think it's a
giant slap right in the middle of their face that
the owner of the team doesn't have enough respect for
the people to call the team by the city in
which it plays. Does that bother you? Am I out
(20:17):
of bounds here? What do you think cause these two
teams get ready to play, the Los Angeles Angels of
Anaheim against the Los Angeles Dodgers don't bother you at all?
Eight six six nine eight seven two five seventy. What
do you think, Rodney? Will anybody say that was a
good idea?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, you get some marketing folks on here, they will
say it's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, Well, if you work in marketing, call if you
live in Orange County, we really want you to call.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh yes, it is a we don't care freaky Friday
and a happy birthday, A big shout out happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To miss Jackson. If you're nasty, Jannet Jackson's birthday today? Right? All,
come on, Freddy, okay, Rodney? So the question now, as
the Angels and UH Dodgers get ready to go at
the stadium tonight, what do you think of the Angels
being called the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? Does that
(21:17):
bother you? If you live in Orange County at all?
Does it offend you if you live in LA Does
it make any sense to your period unless you work
in marketing and you're more than welcome to calls at
eight sixty six ninety seven, two five seventy. Okay, let's
go out to Lakewood. Elder is on the phone. Elder,
are you offended by this?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'm not offended by it.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
I actually grew up in Angels fan, but eventually, you know,
the Dodgers have been my team. I think it's a
little disappointing that they don't get the recognition that they deserve. Right,
They've always been a fabric of southern California, being the
California Angels, the La Angels of Anaheim, the Anaheim Angels,
(22:01):
and you gotta think they I mean, they won a
championship in two thousand and two. I just think it's
it's unfortunate that, you know, being from Anaheim, that they
just don't get the recognition that they deserve. I mean,
they should be the Anaheim Angels, right. They've always played
at the big games, So I don't I don't find
it disappointing. I just wish, you know, they would give
more of the recognition, at least from the ownership group
(22:23):
that they deserve appreciating.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Remember, wait, wait, you grew up, but you grew up
an Angel fan. Where do you live? Are you from
Orange County? He's gone, he's gone. Okay, but remember this.
They have not always played in Anaheim. No, their early
years were in Los Angeles. Now it was very brief,
very brief, but they did play here in Los Angeles.
And when they did, they were the Los Angeles Angels.
(22:48):
Then they became the California Angels.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Right. See, for my money, i'd be the Anaheim Angels
or and Kevin, I think you pointed this out before
that I'm wrong. I'd be the Orange County Angels, Orange
County Angels, the Angels. No, No, what other what other
team is a countye county?
Speaker 7 (23:08):
No?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
They were LA initially when they were a minor league team.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Then they became California, then they became Anaheim.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, but I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Count of LA of a county of No. No, fred No,
they either and so but you said earlier they can't
be the California Angels because there's other teams in California.
There's always been other teams in California. When they were
the California Angels. What's wrong with that? The Giants were.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Here, yes, they were not when they when they started
the Angels started.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No, but they were the California Patres were here when
their name was the California Angels. So there were three
other teams playing in California, yet they were still the
California Angels.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So what's wrong with the California Angels. Nothing? Really, But
then I still like, you know, and I understand, you
can't be a county, but Orange County. He has a
lot of cities in it. I think it'd be kind
of cool to be the OC Angels. Now, that's me
Sasha in La Sasha, are you offended by this?
Speaker 10 (24:11):
I am so offended by this as an LA Dodger fan.
It's just like, get out of here. You're not in
La County, You're an Orange County and like it's just like,
there's a reason why Otani came to the Los Angeles
Dodgers versus the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. It's just ridiculous.
That's a mouthful, and just call yourselves and to Anaheim Angels, like,
(24:34):
get over it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Good point, Sasha, thank you, thank you for listening six
six ninety if you want to.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Weigh in to the point, to the point, yeah, why
are you trying? I mean, I'd be interested to see
the marketing. That's why I wanted to see if a
marketing person could could jump on to see what the
revenue difference was or because that's what they claimed that
they wanted to do it for marketing reasons, that they
wanted to be called the Los Angeles Angels and has
(25:03):
that boosted their revenue by becoming the Los Angeles Angels?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Look, everybody bagged on the Chargers when they moved up
here from San Diego and now they're LA Chargers. But
we all knew this, and football is a different animal
than than baseball. But as soon as they became the
LA Chargers, their valuation went dramatically up. Yeah, from being
(25:32):
the San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, absolutely, but not as high as it would have
been because they don't know the stadium. True. Okay, let's
see who else we have online here? All right, stand
in Seemi Valley, Stan, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yes? I feel is.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
That it's just like that old thing you could put
a makeup on a pig.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
It's still going to be a pig.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Well, the Angeles got to get a good team or
else they're.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Still never going to get respect no matter what you
call them.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's fair, that's an accurate statement. Thanks, Sam, appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So if they're winning, it doesn't matter what you call
them that people would be more receptive to it if
they were winning.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If they were winning, people would overlook the name. Yeah, no,
you don't think so. No, I still don't think so.
I still think this is the ultimate.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Were they Ani Angels when they want it? In two
thousand and two, I think so.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah. Yeah, that was the last year in Disney, and
they changed the name to the La Angels and they
haven't one sense correct. Well, Arty Moreno came in and
he thought he could make a book, and he thought,
in your correct Rodney. He thought that national advertisers or
sponsors would be more app to advertise or become a
(27:02):
partner of the Angels if they thought it was Los Angeles.
Here's what people don't understand about Orange County. Orange County
is a giant area. It's not just Anaheim. I know
you want to call them the Anaheim Angels. Orange County
is huge. Orange County is a population wise maybe the
fifth largest city. And those cities are all close together
(27:24):
down there, so put them together.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, Newport Beach and you know, Lagooner, Irvine, Lagoona, all
of those.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, right, I mean so there's a lot of value, yeah,
all of it. Yeah, it really is. And I have
to say this actually a lot of money, a lot
of money. And that's real money. What do you mean
as opposed to what you know? Those people have their money.
(27:52):
They're not trying to oh move this to get that. No,
they've got money. And they would be a very fur
ground for advertising.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
It would be because they and they're proud. People from
Orange County are proud to say they're from Orange County.
Now we look at them differently. We're up here and
maybe turn our nose up at him a little bit.
Orange County, Oh you're a Orange County or the Orange
people call it the Orange curtain. But yeah, but there's
(28:23):
a lot of pride from the folks that live in
Orange County.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Indeed. Indeed, so embrace it, is what you're saying, Fred, right,
embrace it, Embrace it all right, we've got a full
board and we're up against the break. So Ronnie, let's
go to break and when we come back, if you're there,
we're gonna take you. We'll go all the way to
the top of the hour. Because now people want to
talk about this.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Come on, Fred, let's keep it moving. Fred, Well on
a Friday, lot going on and a high Angels of
Orange County, come on, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Let's do this. Let's continue the calls. Thanks for holding.
Are you offended? Does it bother you that the Angels
can prefer to themselves as Los Angeles eight six six
seven five seventy. I appreciate you holding during the break
George in La. Now, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (29:17):
You know the bigger question is is like does it
even matter? I mean, they're just a confused organization. You know,
they don't really have fans. They have more supporters than anything.
I mean, just look at Mike Trout. I mean, like
one of the best players in the last ten to fifteen years.
Nobody even knows who the hell he is. I mean,
you you go to the Angels organization basically to hide.
(29:37):
It could be like the new you know, witness Protection
program because no one would think to look. It doesn't matter.
They could be the Tory Pines Angels for all I care.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's all about the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Go blue. Yeah, okay, Tory Pines. That was impressive. Let's
go to Riverside. Chris is out there, Chris. Are you offended?
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Oh yes, I am.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
When you when you want to go get a.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Taco, you go to King Taco. You don't go to
Javier's if you're from La Okay, unless it's a special occasion.
And the only thing that I like about the Angels
is they beat the Giants when they did win the
World Series.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
All right, thanks, okay, I see, I knew. I knew
people would be offended. Casey in Thousand Oaks, Casey, thanks
for holding What do you think? Are you offended by
the fact that the Angels from Anaheim call themselves Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
I don't even know that the Angels exist except for
Mike Trout has been wasted there forever, So to be
offended by the Angels are kind of like that old
cartoon with the bulldog and the dog jumping around. That's
the Angels, and that's how they've always been and that's
how they'll always be.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
All right, Wow, appreciate that. That's a little harsh on
the dam Angels. All right, Well he's not offended, but
I'll tell you who is Anthony and La Anthony.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Go ahead, Well hello there, Fred, Hello Rodney. Hell, this
is the guy that looks like this is a guy
that looks like Dusty Baker as she Fred.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay, all right, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Me being at Angelino since nineteen sixty. So I turned
sixty five next month. I'm old enough to remember what teams,
what newspapers were in this city. And I'm telling you,
California Angels should have never changed their name. They'll always
be the California Angels to me. But my team, my
baseball team, is the Los Angeles Doddors. Always have been,
(31:40):
always will be.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, Anthony, appreciate it. Darte, Fred, I hear you
in Dwarte. Terry is on the line. Terry, what do
you think about that decision?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, it's Terry. And how you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I can't read?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So I watched Anaheim Stadium. I watched Anaheim Stadium be
built as a kid.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I grew was.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Born and grew up in Orange, California, and loved it
and still go there. And you know, it's just disappointing
because that was our like stadium, that was Angel Stadium.
And you know, it's just one of the thousands, or
I wouldn't say thousands, dozens of mistakes that Artie Marino
(32:28):
has made over the years, putting in that big, ridiculous
rock in the middle of the center field, and you know,
just all the stupid ass things that he has done.
I mean, all you have to do is, you know,
it's a list, a laundry list, and it's wrecked the team,
it's wrecked the motivation of people to go there. And
it's really a beautiful stadium and it's so easy to
(32:49):
get in and out of. But you know, it's just there.
It's Angel Stadium. Come on, it's you know it isn't
We're not in Los Angeles. Proud to be from Orange County.
I'm from Orange, California, grew up there and I loved
it and it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
All right, thank you for the call. And that's my point.
If you're from Orange County, you should be proud of that,
and most people are. So why would you want your
team to have the name of another city on it.
It's a slap in the face of the people in
Orange County. Now we'll go to North Dakota. So I
assume Todd is listening on the app if he's in
North Dakota. Todd, are you in North Dakota?
Speaker 9 (33:27):
No, right now, I'm sitting here in Redoondo Beach, California.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Why did you from North Dakota? Did you tell me
you're in North Dakota?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (33:37):
If you guys born and born and raised Minnesota Twins fan,
you know, and Vikings and timber Wolves and stuff.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
But I also lived with North Dakota.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
That's a fair question. But see, North Dakota doesn't have
any professional sports Minnesota, all right, so we we rooted
sure for the Minnesota teams.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Stop Todd, do you live here now? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
I moved out here. I'm here for a little while.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Well, then why would you tell Kevin you were from
North Dakota when you're in Rodondo Beach.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Well, I'm there for a little bit. North Kolda is
still home, all right, I go back and forth. North
Dakota is still home.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yes, okay. Just want to make sure they got a
lot of bison.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Up there in North Dakota or no, I'm sorry, what they.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Got any bison? Up there in North Dakota.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yes, And at one time, many many years ago, I
owned a few did Yeah, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What did you do? Uh?
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Donated them to uh like boys clubs and stuff like that,
and next to them with beef and had a big
burger for either.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, all right, all right, go ahead, Well yeah it
really did. I mean, I thought we were moving on. So, Todd,
are you offended by this or not?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Well?
Speaker 9 (35:05):
I got if I may, I got just a little
bit tweak it, just a little bit because I'm a
little bit curious about something. I would guess the owner,
mister moron guy has to be a millionaire multimillionaire, right,
or you don't get to own a professional baseball team.
And I don't know if he inherited the money or not,
but so I guess my kind of question is to you, gentlemen,
(35:28):
is how did he let get away for absolutely zero
zero return. He's not a stupid man, and he had
to know somewhere along the line that hey, this is
slipping away and I'm not going to get anything for
this guy. And so I'm kind of how did that happen?
(35:49):
And by the way, Rodney, I also lived in Tucson,
Arizona for fourteen years when you were high schooler and
in the day when, yes back when, the day when
Dick told me was to football coach and Luke Olson
lost a basketball coach from North Dakota. You know, I
was there when you were there, and of course you
were kind of were kind of not a trader, but
(36:12):
you picked the wrong school any rate, I'm kind of
curious about all right, he's a businessman. How does that
happen that?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We're good? We're good, thank you, Todd. Apparently in witness protection.
He hails from North Dakota, spent time in Tucson, but
currently is hanging out in Redondo Beach. And we'll we'll
talk about that next hour, Todd, because that's gonna take
a little while. Ryan in uh where Ryan Irvine?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Are you offended?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You guys?
Speaker 7 (36:47):
At this point, it's like, think about it this way.
Is it the New York Nets of Brooklyn? Is it
the La Clippers of Inglewood? Like, come on, man, Like,
at this point, it's just embarrassing if you watch and
it's like, man, you have no identity, You're not reaching
out to any specific market. And then on top of that,
the Dodgers punk the little brother and take Otani onto
(37:08):
their team. So it's like, at this point, it's kind
of like, man, just stop you guys. This is embarrassing.
Although I will tell you what does offend me is
that I live in Orange County. My daughters are like, Dad,
I want to go to our our local baseball team,
the Angels. What a cool name. I want to see
them play. After one game, my daughters are like, Dad,
I don't think I like baseball. This is horrible.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
I was like, Okay, now that offends me. Man, I.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Will I will make one hot take real quick. You
guys want one quick hot take, I will. I will
step out on record and say the Angels will never
win championship until they get Los Angeles out of their name.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
All right. Ryan appreciates the stretch. I don't know if
that's a stretch. Okay, one hour to go.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
We will learn more about the Dodger opponent, because, let's
face it, if you listen to the Dodger radio station,
you do not follow their opponent very closely. So Sam
Blum will join us next. We'll get caught up on that.
Oh and by the way, if you work in the
fitness industry. There is a job available. I've got the
job posting, and I'm going to read it for you
(38:09):
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