May 21, 2025 • 36 mins
Mark Medina hops on to talk Western/Eastern Conf finals, SGA winning MVP, and the Lakers and Clippers' offseason. A man is suing the Rockies after he was hit by a foul ball - even though he wasnt actually watching the game on the field. Flag football, tush push and the playoff format were on the ledger at the NFL League meetings.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we continue on Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete on
a five seventy LA Sports could win for the Dodgers
last night extra innings, Max Munsey a sacrifice fly and
it gets him off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They snapped that losing streak and it was good. It
was scary, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Good outing for Yamamoto and the Dodgers snapped that four
game losing streak.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
More on that coming up later in the hour.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Now, let's bring on Fox Radio NBA insider Mark Medina
and Mark, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Fred, I'm always doing well. When I got to the catchup,
will you and Rodney right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love to hear that. Mark, love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Brother, Yes, sir, and I heard you on the pod
recently a sports center. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You did huh? You did well? Mark?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Let me ask you this. So Fred threw it out there,
and I don't think Fred threw it out there. He
reported it that the Lakers should make the deal for
Christops Porzingis or Ruya Jimora, Max Kleeber and a couple
of swap picks. Is that a good deal for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I need to get my Bobby Marks trap on and
see if the salaries matched first, but I'm thinking out
loud is, so.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It could be.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, the question obviously with Perzingis is his health.
We saw him having you know, some real mysterious illnesses
during the playoffs, you know, affecting his upper respiratory. He
is a great player. You know, when you look at
last year when they won the championship, it was obviously
starting with Jason Tatum and jam Brown, but they'll be
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the first to tell you that he was the missing
piece that made the offensive balance and the ball movement go.
Uh So, yeah, I think it would be a good deal,
but frankly, I think the Celtics would ask for much
more than just those players.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, but here's what we figured out earlier. And tell
me if you think this makes sense. So you figure
Porzingis is good for forty games. You only played forty
two last year, So let's say only plays forty games.
That's how many you're gonna get out of them. But
you really need him for the playoffs, and you figure
in the playoffs from start to finish, let's say it's
twenty four games, So you take away twenty four from forty.
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That means that Christopher Porzingis could play sixteen regular season
games for you because you have to save the rest
of his games for the playoffs. What do you think
of that plan?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, again, I think Boston would won more than just
really and maxic cleever in a first round pick. But
I don't think that. You know, and the Clippers our
testament to this that you can't prescript load management. So
the idea that just because you're going to save them
in the regular season that all of a sudden he's
gonna be healthy in the playoffs. So that's not guaranteed.
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I mean, we saw he wasn't available in the playoffs
this past year. So I love Porzingis as a player,
and I think it would be a good deal. I
just I just think the Celics would ask for more
than that, so they might just hang up on a
rob and say no thanks.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So how did the Lakers do it? Mark? Everybody's figuring
it out.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Lebron's, you know, forty years old, and Luca you know,
obviously there's questions about his being in shape, and they're
obviously trying to address that this offseason.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Are they truly just.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
A big away from from being a championship contender? Or
is it more than they need than just a big
man in the middle.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, it's a good question. I think that they're a
big away from being in the championship conversation now as
far as what it would take for them to be
the contender, the prohibitive favored or the second favorite, they
would need more and more roster depth. But the Lakers
have a real predicament on their hands. I mean, Lebron James, Luka, Doncic.
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They're not going anywhere where, nor should they go anywhere.
Inkers should want them back in their stand But if
they're gonna have to, if they're going to make a move,
they're going to have to include Austin Reeves as a
centerpiece in that. And I think generally, I don't think
the Lakers are opposed to trading Austin Reeves, but it's
a question of who are you bringing back in return.
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And here's where it gets tricky. Austin Reeves is not
being paid as a star player, and so if they're
going to make a move, they're going to have to
include additional players just to make salaries match. But I
think that that will then cross their comfort level in
giving up so much roster depth. I think the most
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likely scenario is Austin's on the team. They mostly like
his positives. They know they're very well aware of his
playoff shortcomings, but they think that they'll bounce back from it.
And now it's about packaging guys like Dorian Finney Smith
gave Vincent and really that and maybe a hand and
maybe really actual Mora and see if that's enough to
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get a good center, maybe someone like Clint Capella or
Miles Turner, and then if there's enough room, get a
wing defender. Does that mean that dal they can compete
against Oklahoma City Thunder, the Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics and
whichever team Jannis onto to Cumbo is on. Probably not,
But it leaves makes him a better defensive team than
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they were last season, and that's a good starting point
for all the full season now that Luca and Lebron
and the whole supporting cast can have with getting used
to each other.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Mark, do you see Jannis leaving Milwaukee? If you do,
what does he end up?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The more I think about it, the more I do see,
ye honest leaving Milwaukee, whether he asks for it or not.
I think the Bucks should trade him, not because Jannis
onto Cumbo is a washed up star. He's a complete opposite.
It's just that Damian Lillard isn't likely back next season.
They've already sniffed three first round exits, so they keep
Gianis on Tookum Bow and you know, they just make
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marginal moves with the roster. Things don't change, and it's
almost like a waste of time. And why not make
the tough but necessary decisions to collect assets that will
help you down the line and maybe even arguably help
you in the short term because first round playoffects. It
isn't asking for much. So where does he go? That's
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the ultimate question. I think the Cleveland Cavaliers would be
a great fit now it's been floated out there. I
saw Bill Simmons at Chris Mannix. We did a pod
yesterday and we were talking about Evan Mobiy. The salaries
won it match here, so Cleveland would have to give
up more than just Evan Mobley. But I think generally
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this could be a win win for both sides. Evan
Mobley's a you know, defensive player of the year. He's
grown tremendously as a score. He's a respectable shooter. Now
he has a great post up game, And obviously with
Cleveland they're trying to rectify their own playoffs shortcomings and
adding an MVP candidate with Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland
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and Jared Allen is great. Now Again, they're gonna have
to give up more than Evan Mobley for salaries to match,
and also because the Bucks will probably want at haul.
But I think that, on the top of my head,
that's the most realistic option. You know, I know that
teams like Santonio and Houston have tap space, but I
don't think that they're gonna have enough for what the
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Bucks want. And frankly, even though it's a no brainer
to want Gianni Santakoumpo on your team, every team this
offseason that's gonna want to get, you know, involved with
the frenetic player movement, They're gonna have to make the
decision is this worth giving up a lot of the depth?
It always starts with having a star player, but second
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is having to give up depth. And I think that
both of those teams, Houston and San Antonio, will blink
on that.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
He mark back to to the Lakers. Do you think
that UH can Luca. Can Luca be the the guy
that leads this franchise into the next the next chapter
in terms of leadership and what the Lakers are are
needing from him, meaning, you know, JJ obviously hinted at
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the you know, at the end of the season and
the press conference is that we got to get in
championship shape and which is been the knock on him
since he came into the league and in Dallas, and
what you know, led to part of him being traded
from from Dallas was that he was not in shape
and didn't care about playing defense. And you look back
at the Lakers of their of their leaders and their superstars,
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it's been you know, Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant,
you know, Lebron James, every one of those guys have
been in tip top shape and done whatever it takes
and ate, you know, eat, sleep, and drink basketball. And
we're the vocal and off the court leaders. Can Luca
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do that and be that for the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I think Luca can definitely be that. I don't
really have any concerns about him at all. And I
say that not because I'm not validated in the current issues,
but I think that I have to keep in mind.
He's twenty six years old and he's accomplished a lot
as a player, and he's only scratching the surface. And
so he's going to, i think, really lean and embrace
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on the fact that he hasks to get in better shape.
His training regimen is going to improve. He's going to
be that guy we've seen how great of a competitor
he is. It's almost the same thing that we saw
earlier in his career when he wasn't passing the ball
as much, and again he is more of an isolation score,
but he's made a lot better improvements with that. I
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think at the end of the day, we do have
to keep in mind even though no one's going to
mistake Luka doncc through Saint Bolt anytime soon. His usage
rate was very, very high last season with Dallas, and
even with him not being in the greatest shape, he
still handled an incredibly high workload and obviously carried them
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to the finals. And so as it pertains of this season,
I think the fit with Lebron was mostly good. I
thought his attitude was mostly good. That's not to say
he was perfect. Injuries got the best of them, you know,
the whirlwind of events of a very busy off season
and coming off of the cav injury didn't allow him
to have that kind of regiment. But I think moving forward,
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he's hitting the reset button this offseason. You'll see a
much different version of him next year, which is scary
to think because even with all his flaws, he still
played at a star level.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Mark Medina Pox Radio NBA Insider with us Red Rogan,
Rodney Pete. All Right, we'll talk about the game that's
coming tonight, then we'll talk about the one last night.
Here we go Indiana and the Knicks. When you look
at this series, is are the Knicks going to be
too physical for Indiana?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, it's a good question. I think there's gonna be
a seven game series. I think that the Knicks will
certainly try to be physical with Indiana, and that could
be a good thing, but it could also be a
bad thing because the Pacers play at a fast pace.
Tyres Alburn is the best passing point guard in the NBA,
and they have a lot of depth. I think they
have eleven players that play at least nine minutes a game.
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I mean, they have a very deep rotation, and the
Knicks they don't. They have a good team, they're well balanced,
but Tom Thibodeaux doesn't go as deep and so they
want to be physical, but they can't get into so
much foul trouble. But I think it's going to come
down to just an epic NBA Star matchup. But Jalen Brunson,
Tyres Aliburn, Jalen Brunson's been, you know, the clutch player
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of the year this year. You know, it's been very salt.
He's felt very salty that they lost him a second
round in Indiana, partly because he was jailing with some
injuries and he's a great finisher. He knows how to
play through double teams. I was talking with his trainer,
Dave Williams earlier this week. They simulate him shooting shots,
you know, with him holding a broom up to simulate
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like seven footer sharing to block his shot. He's very
well prepared on scoring against any other defender. The Tyres Halburn.
He's not score first, but he makes the engine go
with great passes, lean to a balanced offense, and you
know he has history against the next last year with
his Game seven performance, and so I don't know if
it's going to live up quite to the Pacers and
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Nicks in nineteen ninety five, when you know Reggie Miller
had eight points in like nine seconds. But yeah, it's
gonna come pretty darn close.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah yeah, Haliburton, I mean it's just is he the
biggest superstar that nobody talks about. I mean, here's a
guy like you said, yeah, I mean, he may he's
the engine that makes him go, and yet people don't
know a whole lot about him. He didn't play in
the Olympics, and yet he was on the team. But
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he is the guy that seems to every time there's
a big shot, big situation, he's right in the middle
of it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah. Well, I guess what's interesting, Rodney is a lot
of people know about him, but it's you know, through
a different lens. You know, this athletic anonymous player poll
saying that he's the most overrated out of the NBA
now is a small sample size, but still very telling.
But I think a lot of it has to do
with just professional jealousy. He was on the Olympics, didn't
play a lot. Now that's Steve Kerr, you know, managing
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the rotation, which is fine. They have all hall of
Famers on the team, but he was also dealing with injuries.
But I think as attains to tyres Halbern, there's no
question he's the best passing point guard in the NBA.
But I think where some of the criticism comes through
is he is not always consistent as a score. I mean,
even talking to his trainer, Drew Handling a few weeks ago,
I mean, he was the first to admit that he
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often tells Tyree like, you have to be more aggressive.
The most selfish thing you can do is sometimes be
too unselfish with not looking to score all the time,
because he's always looking to pass. And I think it's
also telling that, you know, before that epic Game seven
performance against New York last year, he was texting with
Drew saying, Hey, you know, can you give me any source,
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you know, words of wisdom or things to get me
motivated for today? And Drew couldn't help himself and say,
if you need me to motivate you for a Game
seven at the Garden, there's something wrong with you. So
what I'm getting at is nyris Aalburn is a special player.
There's another level he can get to with just being
in attack mode and aggressive more consistently. But I think
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to say he's overrated or he's not that great of
a player, that's I think missing the you know, mistaking
the forest through the trees, because he is a great passer,
the best passer in the NBA, and he's really the
reason why the Pacers have gotten to this point with
not just clutch performances, but really ensuring the kind of
case an offensive depth that makes them so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hey, Mark shake Yilles, Alexander just named the NBA MVP
at first?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Is that a.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Surprise not a surprise? Yeah, I mean, we don't know
how close it's going to be. But I did an
informal poll with some coaches and coaches not from Denver,
not from Oklahoma City, and all of them predicted that
Shay would win MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, and now they've got the MVP in Oklahoma City.
Really put it on the Timberwolves. Last night, Minnesota turned
the ball over nineteen times. Is that indicative of what
is to come in that series? Or was that an
aberration by Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, great question, Fred, I don't know the answer to it,
because here's the reason. Oklahoma City I think has shown
in the regular season for most of the playoffs that
they are just above them, beyond the best team in
the West on paper, but as we've seen in the playoffs,
especially against the Denver Nuggets, they didn't always bring the game.
So that's number one. Number two Minnesota I think on
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paper again should not even be in the Western Conference finals.
But you know, there were some injuries with Steph Curry
with the Warriors. The Lakers didn't have any you know,
real centers on their team, so they were you know,
depleted defensively. But you know, Anthony Edwards, he's taking his
game to another level. He didn't score well and he
has to play better than he did in Game one,
but by and large, he's been a better shooter, better
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pass or better leader. Julius Randall is not the same
Julius Randall, meaning when he was with the Knicks, he
would be great in the regular season, not so great
in the playoffs. He's been playing an all time high
in the playoffs, and they have a lot of good
roster depth. It's just not the same kind of roster
depth as the thunder Half. So I don't think that
it's going to be blowouts moving forward. But I want
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to be surprised that the Thunder have this wrapped in
five six games. I think it's going to go down
to six games. But I'm also preparing myself that, you know,
it'll be sure or that the Thunder or the Wolves
catch light in a bomb, you know, on games if
the Thunder aren't bringing it at their best, and then
they make this a series. But I think what we
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saw in game one is that if things play out
on paper the way it should be, the Thunder are
above and beyond a better team.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, Mark, before we let you go, what do you
what do you see going forward for the Clippers? I mean, obviously,
why was healthy James Harden? The narrative continues where he
struggles in the playoffs. Where do you see them going forward?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, it's a lot of bad choices because they're not
getting rid of Kawhi Leonard, because you have a star
player that can at least sell tickets, at least give
you a chance to be a playoff team. He has
been healthier, healthier relatively speaking. Here's what I think is
going to happen. They're going to resign James Harden, partly
because he played well in the regular season. He was
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disappointing that Game seven and at some point in the
first round of the playoffs, with the exception of Game six,
but I think that they'll decide, you know what, they
don't have a better alternative, so they'll probably make some tweaks.
You know, the Vita z bots isn't going anywhere. I
don't think Norman Pal's going anywhere because they've been very consistent.
But they'll make tweaks around the rotation because that's what
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they always do. And then I think they'll re sign
James Harden because that's the best available option. And then
I think they'll be open minded about making deals with
Hardened at some point during next season before the trade deadline.
But I think the thing that we have to keep
in mind with the Clippers is that Clipper fans in
the organization might feel, you know, relatively comforted that Kawhi
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Leonard got through a postseason completely healthy, but any expectation
that that he can replicate that is fooling themselves. It's
the equivalent of landing on you know, Odd Black and seventeen.
It doesn't mean it's going to happen again, right, So
I think that they have to construct their roster assuming
that Kawhi misses games. I mean he missed the first
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thirty four games dating back to his inflammation in his
knee the previous season. So Kawhi is doing all the
right things. I think the organization's doing all the right things.
But as far as their roster construction, they have to
proceed as if they can't live with any certainty that
Kawhi will get through the season healthy. And just because
he had a good stroke of fortune this past postseason,
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they'll obviously take it. They should not be under any
illusion that now it's just about running it back.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Spoking like a man that visits Vegas from time to time.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Will believe me. I landed on that and I immediately
cashed out because I knew I couldn't do it again.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Mark, good talking to you. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I appreciate you guys. You're the best, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
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sue a team because they're so bad? You were at
the game. You couldn't stand watching them and then you
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got hit with a ball.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Let's figure that out. Let's go, come on, hop Tate,
Rodney p Fred Rogan.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Many thanks to our man Mark Matina breaking down the
NBA for us.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He's always good, he's tight with it. Freddy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, he's got it. He's got it. We've known Mark
a long time, many many years. He's really done very well.
We know we'd be a star many years ago, Rodney.
And you see, yes we did, Yes we did. He's
a star. Okay, listen to this, Listen to this. See
it's hard to support a team that's just awful and
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apparently it's dangerous. So this happened in Colorado, a plates
where quite frankly, since I think are mathematically eliminated already,
all tickets should be half off. I mean, the Rockies
are awful, They're terrible. They fired poor Bud Black after
he got beat like twenty one to nothing or twenty
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one to three, and then they got back in one,
they come back and win, then they fired him.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Fred Uh, they're not mathematically eliminated. They were only twenty
one and a half games out of first place.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There's still time thanks, keV, get us straight.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Just want to make that clear.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So what by June fifteenth? Probably okay?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So anyway, guy goes to Corus Field to watch a game.
He's a baseball fan, and you know the Rockies are terrible.
But you know what's an afternoon at the park or
an evening?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
How many How many people are the Rockies getting right now?
How many fans are they getting in the stadium now
on a regular basis?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you're asking how many they can pay, You're asking
how many they're paying to go to the games? Now?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, that too. How many are actually in attendance at
the game? Ten thousand? You think it's ten thousand or
more than less than that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, but today draw ten? Sure Denver? Why not? I
mean that place only seats like ninety evil So it's
a madeleumark.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They're pulling in twenty five thousand a game.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
One?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Are they really nineteenth in baseball? So probably higher up
than we would have assumed.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Absolutely, And Kevin, look and see are the Diamondbacks above
or below them? Because the Diamondbacks do about twenty five thousand.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
This says as of now, and it's still early in
the season. Obviously, Diamondbacks are pulling thirty two thousand and
five sixty one, so they're tenth in baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Okay, where the Angels.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Knife actually right, they are slightly ahead of Arizona thirty
three thousand and five oh seven.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, So anyway, this guy goes to the game because
he wants to enjoy some Major League baseball. But the
problem is he's there and apparently the Rockies are playing
so poorly he can't even stomach it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He can't watch the game is going on.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
He's turning his head, he's not really paying attention because
he says the team is so bad. Well, it is
at that point where he is not paying attention because
he is at the game but not watching the team
because they are so bad. He is hit in the
face of the foul ball. He's hit in the face
of the foulball, and he claims that he suffered catastrophic
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and permanent injuries. All right, okay, catastrophic. Yeah, he is
suing the team. He is suing the team because he
says they were so bad that he couldn't stomach it
despite the fact he was there. And now he has
suffered these injuries and he believes the team should pay damages.
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He was sitting in a luxury box of course field
he was hitting the first inning. He couldn't see the
ball because, he claims, of the architectural elements, including the
ceiling of the luxury box and the overhang of the
stadium's bleacher seats, it was not physically possible to see
the foulball from his seat in question, from a suite
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in the stadium where he wasn't watching because he couldn't
stand to watch the team because they were so bad.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What do you think of that, Rodney, I think it's
absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous. He's claiming.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He wasn't watching the game because the team was so
bad and they were losing. Or is he claiming that
the structural damage or his structural configuration of the stadium
didn't allow him to see the foul ball? Which one
is he claiming both?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He's claiming both. He's going for the blue plates special,
He's going for everything he can't.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This is this is this is where we are in America.
This is where we are.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You're gonna sue the team because you get hit in
the face and you're not paying attention to the game,
right because they're so bad. He ought the team at
turn around and sue him for being so dumb. You
can't do that. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, judge to throw
that out in two seconds. You should throw it out
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in two seconds. It's like, what are you doing wasting
our time with this? How can you sue the team
because you're not paying attention? Then don't go to the game.
Don't go to the game. If you're sitting in a seat,
in a seat in a set, a seat in a
sweet seating, a suite, and because the seat that you're
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sitting in doesn't allow you to see the plate and
the ball, if that's what you're complaining, then that's a
whole different story. Then you're not paying attention because the
team is so bad. But I can't imagine there's a
seat in a suite that you can't see the field,
that you can't see what's happening on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You got to show me that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
You got to show me that seat where you can't seat,
because I can't believe that they put a suite, a
seat in a suite where they're charging people premiums that
you can't see the batter's box, and you can't see
the field exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Of course you can't. Of course you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And and I don't know anymore because it's all electronic.
But in the day when you got your ticket, wasn't
there something on there that the club assumes no liability for,
you know, foul balls, anything that you know that comes
into the stands absolutely right. If you go, you understand
you're part of it. So you better dog because you
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can't turn around and sue us and say, well, you
know it's your fault.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I got hit. And I think the ticket choose to
say something like that. They did, but I'm sure now
it's electronic. I'm sure that says it online, and when
you get your ticket that you better read that. Read
read what it says, because I guarantee you it does
say that you take you take full of responsibility once
you're into the stadium for any foul balls or anything
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hit to you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
See, this is when I say when I talk about
bad teams, and I've actually take up a minding this
in the past. If watching a bad team, if you're
watching a bad team, can you sue them because they
are inflicting a personal injury on you? They are giving
you emotional distress. They're so bad that you can turn
around and sue them because you're you're having a nervous
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break down watching them. That's basically what this guy is saying.
They're so bad. I couldn't watch them, And because I
couldn't watch them, I was sitting in a seat in
a swinge where you couldn't really see anyway, So I
wasn't watching the game. But I couldn't see the game
because of where I was sitting. And they got hit
in the face of the foul ball. It's their fault.
It's their fault.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They should pay me.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's kind of like the guy that the team sue
them if they decern if they decided they or they
turn it around and they start winning and they are
in the playoffs and they lose a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can they sue him for not cheering loud enough? Should?
They can cheer it?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
They can sue him for not cheering loud loud enough
in the playoff game and it caused them to lose
a series to the Dodgers because he wasn't cheering. They
can sue him for that, can't they? Yeah, they should.
They should soon him for that. Yeah, that's that's how obscured.
All of this is exactly exactly, that's how absurd. This
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story with this guy in Colorado is two ookl like
Vinnie bon Signori Bean from the NFL Owners meetings. A
couple of things decided today that we'll touch on next
before Vinnie gets here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We'll get more into it. Minnie bon Signior will join
us next. From the owners meetings.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, come on tom Day, Rodney, Pete, fred Rogan, let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Come on, come on, Freddy, come on.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
NFL Owners Meetings. We'll get into Vinnie bon Signor here
in a few minutes. But let's, uh, let's just take
a look at a couple of things that happened first. Uh,
we kick this around the other day.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Here's the deal. The owners unanimously vote.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
To allow one one player per NFL franchise to compete
in flag football during the LA Olympics. One player per team.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is that a good idea? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think it's a marketing thing. And we'll figure out
what that one player per team is gonna be. It
ain't gonna be the starting quarterback, it ain't gonna be
you're starting, You're starting all pro corner or you're starting
All Pro wide receiver. I guarantee you that, because no
team's gonna allow. You know, we'll I can't say that
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allow because if a player wants to do it, they'll
do it, but they're gonna discourage it, and they'll say, okay,
you can, you know, our third receiver on the team.
You can go play in the in the in the
Flag Football Olympics. But I'm not gonna let Justin Jefferson
go play, or Justin we're gonna discourage you from going
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to play, or Matthew Stafford. You know, I know it's cool,
but we're gonna discourage you from playing in this Flag
football Olympics.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It does nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I mean, yes, a gold medal will be cool and great,
represent your country and we invented football and all those things, but.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's I just don't think the reward of winning a
gold medal outweighs the possibility of getting hurt and missing
a full football season for your particular team that's paying
you thirty million dollars, forty million dollars, fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Not gonna happen. So it's gonna be the third guy.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's gonna be it's gonna be reserved, it's gonna be
backup receivers. It's gonna be those guys that play. I
don't see the starters like Lamar Jackson, Brett you know,
Patrick Mahomes playing in the in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I don't see it. Yeah, are you being a receiver? No?
I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It's going to be you know, it'll be guys that
are practice squad guys maybe or the fourth receiver on
the team, and you know, which will still be good
enough to win the gold medal. By the way, you
don't necessarily need those tough guys, even though those guys
would be phenomenal, Like can you imagine Lamar Jackson and
the flag football against the world. It would be just
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like a video game. It would be crazy. So but
I just don't think they risk it. And I know
that the league is trying to grow the game and
make it international and this is the way to do it,
and they want to grow it. They're they're watching, you know,
baseball and basketball be international.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
How do we do this?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Flag football maybe the way to do it, and flag
football maybe the way to introduce women to the sport.
In high school level and college level.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And the NFL has made a big push to try
to promote flag football from the youth angle all the
way through, and they want a piece of it because
I think they think that going forward, there's going to
be more and more parents and people that discourage their
kids from playing tackle football. Agree, So let's get into
the flag game. Let's get into the flag game and
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make flag a national sport. Let's make flag a big
time sport in America. And I think that's where they're
trying to go.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, they're not going to draw eighty thousand for flag football, No,
sixty nine thousand people are not showing.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Up to watch flag football. No, No, that's not going
to happen. But one player per franchise. Okay, the touch
pusche still in, still in. They voted to keep it in.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, and I'm good with that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Why why are you stopping something that the best team
in the league that does it, that created it, does
it to success and perfection, and yet another team has
not figured out a way to stop it other people.
It'd be one thing if other teams did it and
they were as successful as Philadelphia, But other teams have tried.
I'll love Buffalo. Several other teams have tried to do
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this and not been as successful as Philadelphia. Philadelphia created it,
started it, perfected it, and it works for them. Why
are you trying to handcuff them on something that they
created that works for that franchise and that they teach
better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Why are you trying to do that? So?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think it was even I think it was terrible
that it was even on the ballot to vote on
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Lions had an idea they withdrew it. What they wanted
to do in the playoffs is has team seeded base
on best records instead of guaranteeing home games for division winners.
It looked like Roger Goodell liked it, but they yanked
it because they didn't think the owners as a group
would have voted for it. I like that this is
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where you you like this, You've always liked this, you know,
forget to forget the divisions and one through sixteen. Let's
just like the best records get get the advantages. Right
if you if you got three teams in one division,
they got the best records, and they should all have
either buys or they have they should have home field,
and you you throw out the divisions once every team
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makes the playoffs, then you see them one through sixteen. Right,
That's how I would do it. But of course I
would do something even more drastic. I'd get rid of
all divisions period. You get rid of all divisions? And
how would you do it? What would you do?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
NFC?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You don't want divisions or conferences?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right for it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You said the same thing for the NBA. There shouldn't
be East or West. You just see them one through sixteen.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Right, That's what I would do, see them on through sixteen.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So you know, NBA South doesn't necessarily have to be there,
or you know, NFC West doesn't have to be there there.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have to be I mean, I
get the argument because if you've got like only almost
saw in the with the NFC North, right, you've got
a team with a losing record making the playoffs. When
you've got a team that's you know what, twelve and
five that doesn't make the playoffs and a team that's seven,
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you know, seven and ten makes the playoffs because they
won a division and a terrible division. That team that
won twelve games doesn't make the playoffs. Yeah, I mean
I I kind of get that. Frad I kind of
get that. I like it.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We'll get more into it. Many bons signor will join
us next from the owners' meetings,
And we continue on Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete on
a five seventy LA Sports could win for the Dodgers
last night extra innings, Max Munsey a sacrifice fly and
it gets him off the schneid.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They snapped that losing streak and it was good. It
was scary, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Good outing for Yamamoto and the Dodgers snapped that four
game losing streak.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
More on that coming up later in the hour.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Now, let's bring on Fox Radio NBA insider Mark Medina
and Mark, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Fred, I'm always doing well. When I got to the catchup,
will you and Rodney right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love to hear that. Mark, love to hear that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Brother, Yes, sir, and I heard you on the pod
recently a sports center. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You did huh? You did well? Mark?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Let me ask you this. So Fred threw it out there,
and I don't think Fred threw it out there. He
reported it that the Lakers should make the deal for
Christops Porzingis or Ruya Jimora, Max Kleeber and a couple
of swap picks. Is that a good deal for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I need to get my Bobby Marks trap on and
see if the salaries matched first, but I'm thinking out
loud is, so.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It could be.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, the question obviously with Perzingis is his health.
We saw him having you know, some real mysterious illnesses
during the playoffs, you know, affecting his upper respiratory. He
is a great player. You know, when you look at
last year when they won the championship, it was obviously
starting with Jason Tatum and jam Brown, but they'll be
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the first to tell you that he was the missing
piece that made the offensive balance and the ball movement go.
Uh So, yeah, I think it would be a good deal,
but frankly, I think the Celtics would ask for much
more than just those players.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, but here's what we figured out earlier. And tell
me if you think this makes sense. So you figure
Porzingis is good for forty games. You only played forty
two last year, So let's say only plays forty games.
That's how many you're gonna get out of them. But
you really need him for the playoffs, and you figure
in the playoffs from start to finish, let's say it's
twenty four games, So you take away twenty four from forty.
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That means that Christopher Porzingis could play sixteen regular season
games for you because you have to save the rest
of his games for the playoffs. What do you think
of that plan?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, again, I think Boston would won more than just
really and maxic cleever in a first round pick. But
I don't think that. You know, and the Clippers our
testament to this that you can't prescript load management. So
the idea that just because you're going to save them
in the regular season that all of a sudden he's
gonna be healthy in the playoffs. So that's not guaranteed.
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I mean, we saw he wasn't available in the playoffs
this past year. So I love Porzingis as a player,
and I think it would be a good deal. I
just I just think the Celics would ask for more
than that, so they might just hang up on a
rob and say no thanks.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So how did the Lakers do it? Mark? Everybody's figuring
it out.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Lebron's, you know, forty years old, and Luca you know,
obviously there's questions about his being in shape, and they're
obviously trying to address that this offseason.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Are they truly just.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
A big away from from being a championship contender? Or
is it more than they need than just a big
man in the middle.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, it's a good question. I think that they're a
big away from being in the championship conversation now as
far as what it would take for them to be
the contender, the prohibitive favored or the second favorite, they
would need more and more roster depth. But the Lakers
have a real predicament on their hands. I mean, Lebron James, Luka, Doncic.
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They're not going anywhere where, nor should they go anywhere.
Inkers should want them back in their stand But if
they're gonna have to, if they're going to make a move,
they're going to have to include Austin Reeves as a
centerpiece in that. And I think generally, I don't think
the Lakers are opposed to trading Austin Reeves, but it's
a question of who are you bringing back in return.
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And here's where it gets tricky. Austin Reeves is not
being paid as a star player, and so if they're
going to make a move, they're going to have to
include additional players just to make salaries match. But I
think that that will then cross their comfort level in
giving up so much roster depth. I think the most
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likely scenario is Austin's on the team. They mostly like
his positives. They know they're very well aware of his
playoff shortcomings, but they think that they'll bounce back from it.
And now it's about packaging guys like Dorian Finney Smith
gave Vincent and really that and maybe a hand and
maybe really actual Mora and see if that's enough to
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get a good center, maybe someone like Clint Capella or
Miles Turner, and then if there's enough room, get a
wing defender. Does that mean that dal they can compete
against Oklahoma City Thunder, the Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics and
whichever team Jannis onto to Cumbo is on. Probably not,
But it leaves makes him a better defensive team than
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they were last season, and that's a good starting point
for all the full season now that Luca and Lebron
and the whole supporting cast can have with getting used
to each other.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Mark, do you see Jannis leaving Milwaukee? If you do,
what does he end up?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The more I think about it, the more I do see,
ye honest leaving Milwaukee, whether he asks for it or not.
I think the Bucks should trade him, not because Jannis
onto Cumbo is a washed up star. He's a complete opposite.
It's just that Damian Lillard isn't likely back next season.
They've already sniffed three first round exits, so they keep
Gianis on Tookum Bow and you know, they just make
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marginal moves with the roster. Things don't change, and it's
almost like a waste of time. And why not make
the tough but necessary decisions to collect assets that will
help you down the line and maybe even arguably help
you in the short term because first round playoffects. It
isn't asking for much. So where does he go? That's
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the ultimate question. I think the Cleveland Cavaliers would be
a great fit now it's been floated out there. I
saw Bill Simmons at Chris Mannix. We did a pod
yesterday and we were talking about Evan Mobiy. The salaries
won it match here, so Cleveland would have to give
up more than just Evan Mobley. But I think generally
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this could be a win win for both sides. Evan
Mobley's a you know, defensive player of the year. He's
grown tremendously as a score. He's a respectable shooter. Now
he has a great post up game, And obviously with
Cleveland they're trying to rectify their own playoffs shortcomings and
adding an MVP candidate with Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland
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and Jared Allen is great. Now Again, they're gonna have
to give up more than Evan Mobley for salaries to match,
and also because the Bucks will probably want at haul.
But I think that, on the top of my head,
that's the most realistic option. You know, I know that
teams like Santonio and Houston have tap space, but I
don't think that they're gonna have enough for what the
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Bucks want. And frankly, even though it's a no brainer
to want Gianni Santakoumpo on your team, every team this
offseason that's gonna want to get, you know, involved with
the frenetic player movement, They're gonna have to make the
decision is this worth giving up a lot of the depth?
It always starts with having a star player, but second
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is having to give up depth. And I think that
both of those teams, Houston and San Antonio, will blink
on that.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
He mark back to to the Lakers. Do you think
that UH can Luca. Can Luca be the the guy
that leads this franchise into the next the next chapter
in terms of leadership and what the Lakers are are
needing from him, meaning, you know, JJ obviously hinted at
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the you know, at the end of the season and
the press conference is that we got to get in
championship shape and which is been the knock on him
since he came into the league and in Dallas, and
what you know, led to part of him being traded
from from Dallas was that he was not in shape
and didn't care about playing defense. And you look back
at the Lakers of their of their leaders and their superstars,
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it's been you know, Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant,
you know, Lebron James, every one of those guys have
been in tip top shape and done whatever it takes
and ate, you know, eat, sleep, and drink basketball. And
we're the vocal and off the court leaders. Can Luca
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do that and be that for the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I think Luca can definitely be that. I don't
really have any concerns about him at all. And I
say that not because I'm not validated in the current issues,
but I think that I have to keep in mind.
He's twenty six years old and he's accomplished a lot
as a player, and he's only scratching the surface. And
so he's going to, i think, really lean and embrace
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on the fact that he hasks to get in better shape.
His training regimen is going to improve. He's going to
be that guy we've seen how great of a competitor
he is. It's almost the same thing that we saw
earlier in his career when he wasn't passing the ball
as much, and again he is more of an isolation score,
but he's made a lot better improvements with that. I
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think at the end of the day, we do have
to keep in mind even though no one's going to
mistake Luka doncc through Saint Bolt anytime soon. His usage
rate was very, very high last season with Dallas, and
even with him not being in the greatest shape, he
still handled an incredibly high workload and obviously carried them
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to the finals. And so as it pertains of this season,
I think the fit with Lebron was mostly good. I
thought his attitude was mostly good. That's not to say
he was perfect. Injuries got the best of them, you know,
the whirlwind of events of a very busy off season
and coming off of the cav injury didn't allow him
to have that kind of regiment. But I think moving forward,
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he's hitting the reset button this offseason. You'll see a
much different version of him next year, which is scary
to think because even with all his flaws, he still
played at a star level.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Mark Medina Pox Radio NBA Insider with us Red Rogan,
Rodney Pete. All Right, we'll talk about the game that's
coming tonight, then we'll talk about the one last night.
Here we go Indiana and the Knicks. When you look
at this series, is are the Knicks going to be
too physical for Indiana?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, it's a good question. I think there's gonna be
a seven game series. I think that the Knicks will
certainly try to be physical with Indiana, and that could
be a good thing, but it could also be a
bad thing because the Pacers play at a fast pace.
Tyres Alburn is the best passing point guard in the NBA,
and they have a lot of depth. I think they
have eleven players that play at least nine minutes a game.
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I mean, they have a very deep rotation, and the
Knicks they don't. They have a good team, they're well balanced,
but Tom Thibodeaux doesn't go as deep and so they
want to be physical, but they can't get into so
much foul trouble. But I think it's going to come
down to just an epic NBA Star matchup. But Jalen Brunson,
Tyres Aliburn, Jalen Brunson's been, you know, the clutch player
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of the year this year. You know, it's been very salt.
He's felt very salty that they lost him a second
round in Indiana, partly because he was jailing with some
injuries and he's a great finisher. He knows how to
play through double teams. I was talking with his trainer,
Dave Williams earlier this week. They simulate him shooting shots,
you know, with him holding a broom up to simulate
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like seven footer sharing to block his shot. He's very
well prepared on scoring against any other defender. The Tyres Halburn.
He's not score first, but he makes the engine go
with great passes, lean to a balanced offense, and you
know he has history against the next last year with
his Game seven performance, and so I don't know if
it's going to live up quite to the Pacers and
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Nicks in nineteen ninety five, when you know Reggie Miller
had eight points in like nine seconds. But yeah, it's
gonna come pretty darn close.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah yeah, Haliburton, I mean it's just is he the
biggest superstar that nobody talks about. I mean, here's a
guy like you said, yeah, I mean, he may he's
the engine that makes him go, and yet people don't
know a whole lot about him. He didn't play in
the Olympics, and yet he was on the team. But
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he is the guy that seems to every time there's
a big shot, big situation, he's right in the middle
of it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah. Well, I guess what's interesting, Rodney is a lot
of people know about him, but it's you know, through
a different lens. You know, this athletic anonymous player poll
saying that he's the most overrated out of the NBA
now is a small sample size, but still very telling.
But I think a lot of it has to do
with just professional jealousy. He was on the Olympics, didn't
play a lot. Now that's Steve Kerr, you know, managing
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the rotation, which is fine. They have all hall of
Famers on the team, but he was also dealing with injuries.
But I think as attains to tyres Halbern, there's no
question he's the best passing point guard in the NBA.
But I think where some of the criticism comes through
is he is not always consistent as a score. I mean,
even talking to his trainer, Drew Handling a few weeks ago,
I mean, he was the first to admit that he
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often tells Tyree like, you have to be more aggressive.
The most selfish thing you can do is sometimes be
too unselfish with not looking to score all the time,
because he's always looking to pass. And I think it's
also telling that, you know, before that epic Game seven
performance against New York last year, he was texting with
Drew saying, Hey, you know, can you give me any source,
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you know, words of wisdom or things to get me
motivated for today? And Drew couldn't help himself and say,
if you need me to motivate you for a Game
seven at the Garden, there's something wrong with you. So
what I'm getting at is nyris Aalburn is a special player.
There's another level he can get to with just being
in attack mode and aggressive more consistently. But I think
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to say he's overrated or he's not that great of
a player, that's I think missing the you know, mistaking
the forest through the trees, because he is a great passer,
the best passer in the NBA, and he's really the
reason why the Pacers have gotten to this point with
not just clutch performances, but really ensuring the kind of
case an offensive depth that makes them so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hey, Mark shake Yilles, Alexander just named the NBA MVP
at first?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Is that a.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Surprise not a surprise? Yeah, I mean, we don't know
how close it's going to be. But I did an
informal poll with some coaches and coaches not from Denver,
not from Oklahoma City, and all of them predicted that
Shay would win MVP.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, and now they've got the MVP in Oklahoma City.
Really put it on the Timberwolves. Last night, Minnesota turned
the ball over nineteen times. Is that indicative of what
is to come in that series? Or was that an
aberration by Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, great question, Fred, I don't know the answer to it,
because here's the reason. Oklahoma City I think has shown
in the regular season for most of the playoffs that
they are just above them, beyond the best team in
the West on paper, but as we've seen in the playoffs,
especially against the Denver Nuggets, they didn't always bring the game.
So that's number one. Number two Minnesota I think on
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paper again should not even be in the Western Conference finals.
But you know, there were some injuries with Steph Curry
with the Warriors. The Lakers didn't have any you know,
real centers on their team, so they were you know,
depleted defensively. But you know, Anthony Edwards, he's taking his
game to another level. He didn't score well and he
has to play better than he did in Game one,
but by and large, he's been a better shooter, better
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pass or better leader. Julius Randall is not the same
Julius Randall, meaning when he was with the Knicks, he
would be great in the regular season, not so great
in the playoffs. He's been playing an all time high
in the playoffs, and they have a lot of good
roster depth. It's just not the same kind of roster
depth as the thunder Half. So I don't think that
it's going to be blowouts moving forward. But I want
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to be surprised that the Thunder have this wrapped in
five six games. I think it's going to go down
to six games. But I'm also preparing myself that, you know,
it'll be sure or that the Thunder or the Wolves
catch light in a bomb, you know, on games if
the Thunder aren't bringing it at their best, and then
they make this a series. But I think what we
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saw in game one is that if things play out
on paper the way it should be, the Thunder are
above and beyond a better team.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, Mark, before we let you go, what do you
what do you see going forward for the Clippers? I mean, obviously,
why was healthy James Harden? The narrative continues where he
struggles in the playoffs. Where do you see them going forward?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, it's a lot of bad choices because they're not
getting rid of Kawhi Leonard, because you have a star
player that can at least sell tickets, at least give
you a chance to be a playoff team. He has
been healthier, healthier relatively speaking. Here's what I think is
going to happen. They're going to resign James Harden, partly
because he played well in the regular season. He was
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disappointing that Game seven and at some point in the
first round of the playoffs, with the exception of Game six,
but I think that they'll decide, you know what, they
don't have a better alternative, so they'll probably make some tweaks.
You know, the Vita z bots isn't going anywhere. I
don't think Norman Pal's going anywhere because they've been very consistent.
But they'll make tweaks around the rotation because that's what
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they always do. And then I think they'll re sign
James Harden because that's the best available option. And then
I think they'll be open minded about making deals with
Hardened at some point during next season before the trade deadline.
But I think the thing that we have to keep
in mind with the Clippers is that Clipper fans in
the organization might feel, you know, relatively comforted that Kawhi
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Leonard got through a postseason completely healthy, but any expectation
that that he can replicate that is fooling themselves. It's
the equivalent of landing on you know, Odd Black and seventeen.
It doesn't mean it's going to happen again, right, So
I think that they have to construct their roster assuming
that Kawhi misses games. I mean he missed the first
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thirty four games dating back to his inflammation in his
knee the previous season. So Kawhi is doing all the
right things. I think the organization's doing all the right things.
But as far as their roster construction, they have to
proceed as if they can't live with any certainty that
Kawhi will get through the season healthy. And just because
he had a good stroke of fortune this past postseason,
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they'll obviously take it. They should not be under any
illusion that now it's just about running it back.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Spoking like a man that visits Vegas from time to time.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Will believe me. I landed on that and I immediately
cashed out because I knew I couldn't do it again.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Mark, good talking to you. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I appreciate you guys. You're the best, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Angel CITYFC hosts racing Louisville FC this Saturday, May twenty
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dot com and listen to every game in HD and
the iHeartRadio app. The keyword is Angel CITYFC. Can you
sue a team because they're so bad? You were at
the game. You couldn't stand watching them and then you
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got hit with a ball.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Let's figure that out. Let's go, come on, hop Tate,
Rodney p Fred Rogan.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Many thanks to our man Mark Matina breaking down the
NBA for us.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He's always good, he's tight with it. Freddy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, he's got it. He's got it. We've known Mark
a long time, many many years. He's really done very well.
We know we'd be a star many years ago, Rodney.
And you see, yes we did, Yes we did. He's
a star. Okay, listen to this, Listen to this. See
it's hard to support a team that's just awful and
(20:48):
apparently it's dangerous. So this happened in Colorado, a plates
where quite frankly, since I think are mathematically eliminated already,
all tickets should be half off. I mean, the Rockies
are awful, They're terrible. They fired poor Bud Black after
he got beat like twenty one to nothing or twenty
(21:09):
one to three, and then they got back in one,
they come back and win, then they fired him.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Fred Uh, they're not mathematically eliminated. They were only twenty
one and a half games out of first place.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There's still time thanks, keV, get us straight.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Just want to make that clear.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So what by June fifteenth? Probably okay?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So anyway, guy goes to Corus Field to watch a game.
He's a baseball fan, and you know the Rockies are terrible.
But you know what's an afternoon at the park or
an evening?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
How many How many people are the Rockies getting right now?
How many fans are they getting in the stadium now
on a regular basis?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you're asking how many they can pay, You're asking
how many they're paying to go to the games? Now?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah, that too. How many are actually in attendance at
the game? Ten thousand? You think it's ten thousand or
more than less than that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
No, but today draw ten? Sure Denver? Why not? I
mean that place only seats like ninety evil So it's
a madeleumark.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They're pulling in twenty five thousand a game.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
One?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Are they really nineteenth in baseball? So probably higher up
than we would have assumed.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Absolutely, And Kevin, look and see are the Diamondbacks above
or below them? Because the Diamondbacks do about twenty five thousand.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
This says as of now, and it's still early in
the season. Obviously, Diamondbacks are pulling thirty two thousand and
five sixty one, so they're tenth in baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Okay, where the Angels.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Knife actually right, they are slightly ahead of Arizona thirty
three thousand and five oh seven.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, So anyway, this guy goes to the game because
he wants to enjoy some Major League baseball. But the
problem is he's there and apparently the Rockies are playing
so poorly he can't even stomach it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He can't watch the game is going on.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
He's turning his head, he's not really paying attention because
he says the team is so bad. Well, it is
at that point where he is not paying attention because
he is at the game but not watching the team
because they are so bad. He is hit in the
face of the foul ball. He's hit in the face
of the foulball, and he claims that he suffered catastrophic
(23:16):
and permanent injuries. All right, okay, catastrophic. Yeah, he is
suing the team. He is suing the team because he
says they were so bad that he couldn't stomach it
despite the fact he was there. And now he has
suffered these injuries and he believes the team should pay damages.
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He was sitting in a luxury box of course field
he was hitting the first inning. He couldn't see the
ball because, he claims, of the architectural elements, including the
ceiling of the luxury box and the overhang of the
stadium's bleacher seats, it was not physically possible to see
the foulball from his seat in question, from a suite
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in the stadium where he wasn't watching because he couldn't
stand to watch the team because they were so bad.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What do you think of that, Rodney, I think it's
absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous. He's claiming.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He wasn't watching the game because the team was so
bad and they were losing. Or is he claiming that
the structural damage or his structural configuration of the stadium
didn't allow him to see the foul ball? Which one
is he claiming both?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He's claiming both. He's going for the blue plates special,
He's going for everything he can't.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This is this is this is where we are in America.
This is where we are.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You're gonna sue the team because you get hit in
the face and you're not paying attention to the game,
right because they're so bad. He ought the team at
turn around and sue him for being so dumb. You
can't do that. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, judge to throw
that out in two seconds. You should throw it out
(25:10):
in two seconds. It's like, what are you doing wasting
our time with this? How can you sue the team
because you're not paying attention? Then don't go to the game.
Don't go to the game. If you're sitting in a seat,
in a seat in a set, a seat in a
sweet seating, a suite, and because the seat that you're
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sitting in doesn't allow you to see the plate and
the ball, if that's what you're complaining, then that's a
whole different story. Then you're not paying attention because the
team is so bad. But I can't imagine there's a
seat in a suite that you can't see the field,
that you can't see what's happening on the field.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You got to show me that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
You got to show me that seat where you can't seat,
because I can't believe that they put a suite, a
seat in a suite where they're charging people premiums that
you can't see the batter's box, and you can't see
the field exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Of course you can't. Of course you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And and I don't know anymore because it's all electronic.
But in the day when you got your ticket, wasn't
there something on there that the club assumes no liability for,
you know, foul balls, anything that you know that comes
into the stands absolutely right. If you go, you understand
you're part of it. So you better dog because you
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can't turn around and sue us and say, well, you
know it's your fault.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I got hit. And I think the ticket choose to
say something like that. They did, but I'm sure now
it's electronic. I'm sure that says it online, and when
you get your ticket that you better read that. Read
read what it says, because I guarantee you it does
say that you take you take full of responsibility once
you're into the stadium for any foul balls or anything
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hit to you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
See, this is when I say when I talk about
bad teams, and I've actually take up a minding this
in the past. If watching a bad team, if you're
watching a bad team, can you sue them because they
are inflicting a personal injury on you? They are giving
you emotional distress. They're so bad that you can turn
around and sue them because you're you're having a nervous
(27:22):
break down watching them. That's basically what this guy is saying.
They're so bad. I couldn't watch them, And because I
couldn't watch them, I was sitting in a seat in
a swinge where you couldn't really see anyway, So I
wasn't watching the game. But I couldn't see the game
because of where I was sitting. And they got hit
in the face of the foul ball. It's their fault.
It's their fault.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They should pay me.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's kind of like the guy that the team sue
them if they decern if they decided they or they
turn it around and they start winning and they are
in the playoffs and they lose a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can they sue him for not cheering loud enough? Should?
They can cheer it?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
They can sue him for not cheering loud loud enough
in the playoff game and it caused them to lose
a series to the Dodgers because he wasn't cheering. They
can sue him for that, can't they? Yeah, they should.
They should soon him for that. Yeah, that's that's how obscured.
All of this is exactly exactly, that's how absurd. This
(28:24):
story with this guy in Colorado is two ookl like
Vinnie bon Signori Bean from the NFL Owners meetings. A
couple of things decided today that we'll touch on next
before Vinnie gets here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We'll get more into it. Minnie bon Signior will join
us next. From the owners meetings.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, come on tom Day, Rodney, Pete, fred Rogan, let's go.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Come on, come on, Freddy, come on.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
NFL Owners Meetings. We'll get into Vinnie bon Signor here
in a few minutes. But let's, uh, let's just take
a look at a couple of things that happened first. Uh,
we kick this around the other day.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Here's the deal. The owners unanimously vote.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
To allow one one player per NFL franchise to compete
in flag football during the LA Olympics. One player per team.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is that a good idea? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think it's a marketing thing. And we'll figure out
what that one player per team is gonna be. It
ain't gonna be the starting quarterback, it ain't gonna be
you're starting, You're starting all pro corner or you're starting
All Pro wide receiver. I guarantee you that, because no
team's gonna allow. You know, we'll I can't say that
(29:43):
allow because if a player wants to do it, they'll
do it, but they're gonna discourage it, and they'll say, okay,
you can, you know, our third receiver on the team.
You can go play in the in the in the
Flag Football Olympics. But I'm not gonna let Justin Jefferson
go play, or Justin we're gonna discourage you from going
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to play, or Matthew Stafford. You know, I know it's cool,
but we're gonna discourage you from playing in this Flag
football Olympics.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It does nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I mean, yes, a gold medal will be cool and great,
represent your country and we invented football and all those things, but.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's I just don't think the reward of winning a
gold medal outweighs the possibility of getting hurt and missing
a full football season for your particular team that's paying
you thirty million dollars, forty million dollars, fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Not gonna happen. So it's gonna be the third guy.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's gonna be it's gonna be reserved, it's gonna be
backup receivers. It's gonna be those guys that play. I
don't see the starters like Lamar Jackson, Brett you know,
Patrick Mahomes playing in the in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I don't see it. Yeah, are you being a receiver? No?
I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It's going to be you know, it'll be guys that
are practice squad guys maybe or the fourth receiver on
the team, and you know, which will still be good
enough to win the gold medal. By the way, you
don't necessarily need those tough guys, even though those guys
would be phenomenal, Like can you imagine Lamar Jackson and
the flag football against the world. It would be just
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like a video game. It would be crazy. So but
I just don't think they risk it. And I know
that the league is trying to grow the game and
make it international and this is the way to do it,
and they want to grow it. They're they're watching, you know,
baseball and basketball be international.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
How do we do this?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Flag football maybe the way to do it, and flag
football maybe the way to introduce women to the sport.
In high school level and college level.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And the NFL has made a big push to try
to promote flag football from the youth angle all the
way through, and they want a piece of it because
I think they think that going forward, there's going to
be more and more parents and people that discourage their
kids from playing tackle football. Agree, So let's get into
the flag game. Let's get into the flag game and
(32:27):
make flag a national sport. Let's make flag a big
time sport in America. And I think that's where they're
trying to go.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, they're not going to draw eighty thousand for flag football, No,
sixty nine thousand people are not showing.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Up to watch flag football. No, No, that's not going
to happen. But one player per franchise. Okay, the touch
pusche still in, still in. They voted to keep it in.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, and I'm good with that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Why why are you stopping something that the best team
in the league that does it, that created it, does
it to success and perfection, and yet another team has
not figured out a way to stop it other people.
It'd be one thing if other teams did it and
they were as successful as Philadelphia, But other teams have tried.
I'll love Buffalo. Several other teams have tried to do
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this and not been as successful as Philadelphia. Philadelphia created it,
started it, perfected it, and it works for them. Why
are you trying to handcuff them on something that they
created that works for that franchise and that they teach
better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Why are you trying to do that? So?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think it was even I think it was terrible
that it was even on the ballot to vote on
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Lions had an idea they withdrew it. What they wanted
to do in the playoffs is has team seeded base
on best records instead of guaranteeing home games for division winners.
It looked like Roger Goodell liked it, but they yanked
it because they didn't think the owners as a group
would have voted for it. I like that this is
(34:14):
where you you like this, You've always liked this, you know,
forget to forget the divisions and one through sixteen. Let's
just like the best records get get the advantages. Right
if you if you got three teams in one division,
they got the best records, and they should all have
either buys or they have they should have home field,
and you you throw out the divisions once every team
(34:37):
makes the playoffs, then you see them one through sixteen. Right,
That's how I would do it. But of course I
would do something even more drastic. I'd get rid of
all divisions period. You get rid of all divisions? And
how would you do it? What would you do?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
NFC?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You don't want divisions or conferences?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right for it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You said the same thing for the NBA. There shouldn't
be East or West. You just see them one through sixteen.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Right, That's what I would do, see them on through sixteen.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So you know, NBA South doesn't necessarily have to be there,
or you know, NFC West doesn't have to be there there.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have to be I mean, I
get the argument because if you've got like only almost
saw in the with the NFC North, right, you've got
a team with a losing record making the playoffs. When
you've got a team that's you know what, twelve and
five that doesn't make the playoffs and a team that's seven,
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you know, seven and ten makes the playoffs because they
won a division and a terrible division. That team that
won twelve games doesn't make the playoffs. Yeah, I mean
I I kind of get that. Frad I kind of
get that. I like it.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We'll get more into it. Many bons signor will join
us next from the owners' meetings,
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