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May 22, 2025 • 43 mins
Ned Colletti hops on to give the front office perspective on the Dodgers moving on from Chris Taylor and Austin Barnes. The LA Kings say they will look to be aggressive to improve the club this offseason. What are the top 25 burgers in America?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now aren't we continue on? Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy LA sports off day for the Dodgers.
No doubt they are headed headed to New York. Now
let's say this. I hope they're not flying into Newark.
Boy boy, hey, you just love to pile on Newark, Newark, Newark, Newark.

(00:23):
It is terrible air per though. Well wait a minute,
when I fly east, if I go to New York,
I usually flying to Newark because it's quicker to get
into the city, believe it or not than JFK. But
they had like one air traffic controller for one hundred
and eighty planes at one point. Absolutely absolutely it could be.
It could be perfect weather in New York and there's
going to be a delay. Yeah, always going to be

(00:45):
a delay in Newark. One electric controller. But Rodney they
had one air traffic controller. They didn't have They had
one person watching one hundred airplanes. Terrible. I know. To me,
that seems like a pretty important job. They've flown and
travel the world. Joins us. Now let's see what he thinks.
We welcome on the man in the big chair, Ned COLLETTI, Ned,

(01:08):
how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
What a what a friendly, cheerful conversation to open.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Where are you right now?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I got to London a couple of days ago. I'm
on my way to Sweden Stockholm for the World Championships
for hockey teams that don't make the playoffs in the
NHL and those who get blown out in the first
round typically will send some of their best players here.
So I'm on my way to Stockholm for the first
time they ever been to Sweden before. But I stopped

(01:43):
in London to see old friend Eric. Clapped him for
a few nights. Oh nice, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Wait you already saw him, that you saw him last
night or something. You already saw him or you waiting
to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I got in yesterday and I found a ticket last night,
so I went last night. I'm going on Friday. I'm
going on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Awesome. I wasn't tell me about it. Tell me about
last it was.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
It was surreal. The Royal Albert Hall is one of
the greatest buildings I've ever been, about one hundred and
sixty years old. And he says it's like playing in
his living room and it's like five thousand seats, but
just it's his hometown. So whenever you've got somebody coming
back to play in a place they grew up that
they probably looked for as as a young player trying to,

(02:31):
you know, make it big time. So it's always always special,
great band and just a great, great night.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Ned London is a great city, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh? It is it is. I've been here a handful
of times with Pepperdine and gotten to know well, and
really wasn't on my list at the beginning of I
don't really travel to Europe until like ten years ago,
and it really wasn't high on my list. But now
I've been here probably seven times, and I look forward
to it all the time. It's a great, great city

(03:04):
and it's a cool thing. I actually saw the Red
Sox and Yankees out here the first time that MLB
played in this country years ago, but the first inning
took about an hour and a half, you remember, but
it was it was great and the MLB keeps growing
the game. And then that's part of what I teach
out here. And I'm going to be teaching out here

(03:25):
in the month of July, so stop by for a
couple of days on my way to some more hockey
work in New Sweden.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Look at you, man, look at you. No, I love
London as well. It's a it is a it is
a beautiful city and and just got a lot of
energy to it. Yes, that's where my wife and I
took our relationship to the next level when we're dating
early in our in our dating experience. Yes, in London,
excellent London. Yeah, yeah, we were playing speaking of speaking

(03:54):
of sports and playing over there, and you mentioned baseball,
but that we were I think the second team to
ever play over in London back in the early nineties,
play a game over there. And it was an exhibition
game in London, and and we went over and and
she was a girlfriend at the time, so so but

(04:16):
I was able to bring a guest. Everybody was able
to bring a guest, and I brought her and and
she had to navigate, she had to navigate the girlfriend
wife thing on the plane with all the wives giving
her the side eye and the side looking. It was.
It was more but it was more of a test
for me to see if she can handle it, and
then see if she can handle the scrutiny. And she passed.

(04:40):
She passed the test with flying colors.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Man. So it was good.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It was good. So yeah, we had a good time. Yes, absolutely, absolutely, Wait,
so mad you're over there for how long you're over
there for? What?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm going to be in London for like four days
and then I'm going to go to Sweden for week.
And we got some scouts. Obviously, hockey's international sports, so
we've got some scouts that they live up in Sweden.
So they told me to after Stockholm gets finished up
with the final game of the World Championships to make
my way up there. And it's at the top of
the world, so probably gonna do that as well.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Hey, need you travel all this way in the company dime?
I'm just wondering London after.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
The Oh no, no, no, no, no no. Most of
this is on my own dime. Yeah, just like just
like calling in your shows on my dime.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
There you go. Well, hey, hey, Fred and I are
doing the show on our dimes. Join the club. Oh
my god. Okay, so ned international traveler that you are.
Let's talk some Dodgers and look, they went through a

(05:56):
real rough patch. I mean they look bad against the Angels.
And if you're gonna look bad at ast anybody, you
don't want it to be the Angels. Then they lost
one to Arizona, but suddenly they win two in a row.
And I made the point earlier Baseball this novel, don't
get up, don't get too down, just stay in the
middle and things work out. Is that how you have
to approach it?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Got to And the toughest thing to have in the
game is really patience because you play it almost every
day and you certainly think about it every day, and
so you can't make your decisions based on the last
three days or five days or week. It takes you.
I think the best decision makers and Andrews one of
the all time best. You know, it takes time. You

(06:39):
got to let things play out. You can't get too high,
as you said, or too low, and you just got
to really let things kind of settle in before you
make a decision. And that's something that you got to think.
You know. The fandom is a different deal. They can
get high or low, you know, in an instant, and
that's you know, that's their right, and that's cool. But
when you're sitting in the chair or your your day, Roberts,

(07:01):
I think your patients and the and the show with
this organization that patients and stuff to have is you
have valuated every dy answer does everybody else. But without it,
you're going to make far many mistakes. And that if
you if you exhibit some patients.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Uh, Ned, you're probably the best one to answer this
because we've been talking and everybody's kind of been you know,
had their emotions, uh kind of run away with them
a little bit. With the with Chris Taylor and and
Austin Barnes, you sat in that chair man, You've had
to make some tough calls and tough decisions on people
that you really liked. How difficult is that, Ned? And

(07:41):
and and in your situation, what was one of the
give us one of the tough decisions that you had
to make uh of a of a player that you
really liked, but you had to make the decision.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, great, great question, great points. I'll get to the
second part. First, a couple of players there were great,
great players, and you know, I just I signed them
late in their career, you know, to kind of fill
in and to help us get to a certain period
of time. What was Bobby Braid is Garrett Anderson And
at the end, you know, had I had the tough

(08:14):
conversations and you're talking about two guys at the Borderline
Hall of Families, and you know, weren't Dodgers their entire career,
which made it a little bit easier. But you know,
those those two guys come to mind right away because
they were really, really good players. But you know, you know,
I find myself being the messenger, so to speak. The
game tells you what you can do and what you

(08:36):
can't do. I'll say one thing for the Dodgers too,
And I know this was a very, very tough decision.
You know, Austin's been great and obviously CT three had
some of the biggest moments. As they look back on
this era of Dodger baseball, you're going to see him
many many times, whether it was in the field or
at the plate, extra innings, always doing something really special.

(08:57):
But I think one of the things about leadership hard
and it's really about I think about life. Sometimes you
got to make the uncomfortable decision because I think most people,
if they failed, they failed not wanting to be uncomfortable.
And I'm sure those conversations were not easy. But I've
I've found in my own career, you know, you've got

(09:17):
to make tough decisions and you've got to be okay
with being uncomfortable, and I think anybody that's that's trying
to get their career started, trying to move up in
their career, Nobody likes to be in the uncomfortable spot.
Everybody likes the easiness of knowing what they know and
being where they're at. But sometimes you got to step
out of that circle. And I think the Dodgers said

(09:38):
that with CET three in Austin Barneson. It was far
from tough. You've got a lot of they got a
lot of friendships in that clubhouse, but you have to
do what's best for the organization and really probably what's
best for both those players. At this stage, CET three
wants to play well, he's not getting time, so it's
time to move on, you know, for him, for his
sake too. But people have to think, and this is

(10:00):
my opinion, I'm not telling abody what to do, but
learning to be uncomfortable and understanding that that is going
to be how you're going to grow and how you're
going to get better, either as a person or as
an organization. To make the uncomfortable call once in a while,
we can, We'll fail, We'll fail in the comfort zone.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, ned so, and you can't be specific, but I
am curious because you've had to have those conversations. How
do they begin? How do you break the ice? I mean,
how do you get into what you're going to say?
And what's their response? Are they shocked? Do they need
a minute? I mean, how does that go?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well? A lot of times, you know, there was a
couple of questions. Yes, I'll start at the second one.
I think it's it's never an easy conversation. But and
I found this, whether it was an employee or whether
it was a player that you know, you start, you
build a relationship going into it, so they kind of
know your thought process as you get through it and

(10:57):
you get to meet them, and if you're bringing them
in as a free agent, you know, during the offseason.
I always wanted to have a meal with them. I
always want to spend some time with them, not not
overbearing and not every day, but just so they understood
how I thought and what my personality was and what
my heart was. Because it is a compatitive. There's compassion
in here too, and nobody likes to, you know, to

(11:19):
tell somebody that, hey, you know, this isn't this isn't
working in this place at this time, and so when
you build a relationship with them, you have a better
chance when you do call them in. They kind of
know what's going to happen, and I don't. I don't think.
I don't think there was anybody. And you know, if
there's former players, listen, they can text me and tell

(11:40):
me I was wrong. But I think most players in
that situation know what's coming. Doesn't mean they like it,
doesn't mean they're going to accept it in that moment
in time, but most of them understand, Hey, you know what,
I kind of know the guy a little bit, been
around him for a while. You know, I know this
wasn't easy for him. And you know, in the manner
is in there with you too, whether it was you know,

(12:02):
Joe or Donnie and you know my earlier days with
the Dusty or Phillipe a Loop, and you know, they
they know, they know that. The players know really kind
of what's going to happen, and and it takes them
a while to get through it. I mean, there's been
a lot of guys that broke down. There's been a
lot of guys that said, you know, I understand it,
and I don't like the decision, and I don't necessarily

(12:23):
agree with you today, but you know I respect you,
you know, telling me where you're at. You've done it
for a while, so you know, it's just kind of goes.
It's interesting the guys that have had some of the
toughest times with it, the next time I see it,
it's like a big hug, how you doing, Hey, thanks
for a great time, And you know, it's just it's

(12:44):
just a moment in time because when you think about
a player at the end around me, I mean, how
long did you play football since you were a little kid, probably.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Right, yeah, yeah, eight years old?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah yeah. So for the first time when it's when
it's you know, time that you know, the NFL is
over or MLBS over for a player, or you know,
they'll they'll probably both catch on someplace. But you know,
it's it's a shock to the system because maybe the
first team they haven't made in essence, or the first
team they've been told to, hey, it's time to it's

(13:14):
time to find another home or another another thing to do.
You know, it's it's shocking because almost everybody has done
their sport since they were eight years old, and so
now they're thirty eight or whatever. They've done this for
thirty out of thirty eight years, and I'll hear somebody saying, hey,
you know it's it's over for at least right now.

(13:36):
So it's tough, there's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Are they long conversations now? Are they quick? Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
They're probably at the longest five minutes.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh that's it.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Oh yeah, there's there's Yeah. I mean, you know, you're
there for the come. You can't be telling them how
great they're, doughter. Let's go through your career. Low watch
you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Get to a point a point.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, they know what, they know what you what they're
there for? You know? Yeah? I mean, And.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Now I was gonna say one gay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm one guy. You know. I live. I live in
the South Bay. So there's a great there's a great
breakfast place in the South Bay called Uncle Bill's, right
the Pancake Place. So the player lived there. So I said, hey,
welln't me said, you know tomorrow and Uncle Bill's And
he says, all right, all right. So I walk up
he's sitting there and he goes, why do I feel
like Fredo and the Godfather? You know, I said, let's

(14:36):
just take a walk.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But you know you didn't have your you didn't have
your tackle box in a fishing pole, right, keep out
on the lake. Oh god, but but so so, But
that you know, isn't it? You know, I know this
from a player standpoint. All you want, and you you
as well, you know, whatever position, All you want is

(15:00):
somebody to be straight up with you and look in
the eye and tell you, hey, this is the way
it's going to be. This is the way it is.
And I hear you when you say those conversations are short,
because guys pretty much know. But the worst situations are
when you get into a and teams beat around the
bush or they lie to you or whatever. Just treat me,

(15:22):
treat me fair, treat me straight up, and I can
handle it. Which is why I'm sure all those guys
come back to you and give you a big hug
because you were.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Straight up with You got to be that way, You
got to be that way. You got to respect relationship
all the time, you know. I mean, it's key. You know,
it's life changing. And I wasn't sure. Guys retire or
they go home and they've got fifty million in the bank.
You know whatever, but they still love to play. And
now you're taking away, at least for the time being,
a chance to play. And both these players in this case,

(15:50):
you're talking about guys that had a long history here,
that went through went through COVID, here, went through ups
and downs. Both made their careers. Sure, Austin Barnes was
going almost nowhere till he came to La CT three.
I mean I tried to trade for him, and that
was a long time ago. Now now he wasn't playing
in Seattle, and here he comes, and he changed positions.

(16:12):
I remembered his big spring training where he worked and
he decided to go play the outfield, and here he comes,
and Harry starts to growing it. Then you think about
Game seven in Milwaukee, you know, in the NLCS. You
think about the game against the Cardinals where Homer's that
a walk, walks it off, you know all those things.
You know, people go through. Our lives are so fast

(16:34):
that you know, it's almost a moment in time where
if everybody could just take a breath and look back
at the period of time, especially with these two guys,
you know, not necessarily, I mean CT three I think
was the co MVP of the LCS. You know, that's
pretty special, right, you know, and Austin caught Clayton all
those years and all that time, they've had special, special moments.

(16:59):
But things don't typically don't last forever. And every every
athlete's going to have that day where they're going to
get called into the office or they're going to be
the one call of the office saying, hey, I'm done.
But we have to look back sometimes, take it back
and realize where we've been, what we've done, both us
as executives and also them as athletes. To see what,

(17:21):
you know, the greatness that these two guys accomplished, it's phenomenal.
But the Dodgers, I think did the right thing. They've
got to turn the roster over. You've got to get
uncomfortable sometimes with your decision making to give yourself a
better chance. Buster might be another player or two you
know that's been rumored or whatever that now you know,
they realize that, Hey, if they got rid of these

(17:43):
two guys and I'm the next guy, you know, I
better pick it up a little bit. I better refine
what I'm doing, even if I've got ten, twelve, fourteen
years in the show. And so it doesn't hurt from
the competitive aspect either or from just you know, showing hey,
you know, we hate to do this, but that doesn't
mean we're gonna you know, we're gonna mess it up.

(18:04):
You know I've told that to employees. I love you,
I've known you forever, but you know, you know I
don't love you enough to mess up the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So are you surprised? Surprised me that they did it
when they did it. That surprised me. I thought you'd
do it at the beginning of the year or at
the end of the year. Chris Taylor would have been up.
But I was just surprised they did it when they
did it.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, timing is is mostly underrated when it comes to
any decision making. I found that that was one of
the things that I struggled with earlier. My exmper for
probably a year or so of I thought making. You know,
I tried to make as many decisions as I could,
as quick as I could. The team I inherited lost
ninety one games, and we had six or seven guys

(18:48):
that I inherited that never played another day. So I
didn't get hired to almost Thanksgiving. So I had a
lot to do quickly, and I needed it. I needed
to move it along. And as I in hindsight, I
should have been a little bit slower, a little bit
more disciplined, but not disciplined, but a little bit slower,
a little bit more patient with my decision making. And

(19:09):
I learned in time that it's not just a decision
you make, but when you make it is almost more
important than the actual decision. So they probably wanted to
make sure that the guys coming up, you know, kid,
that he was ready, that you know, that the catcher
was ready, that they had some time to get their

(19:29):
feet wet and to really kind of get their season
underway six seven weeks. Because you put a kid in
that spot, you know, you make that decision at the
end of the camp, you better be really sure that
these guys are going to have one hundred and sixty
two game running them and another month. You better be
really sure because if you've made the mistake, you're putting

(19:51):
a young player in a really tough spot. They may
never recover from it, and most stupid you know, some don't.
And you've also you know, if you're the Dodgers and
you find out that okay, we've released a veteran, there
might be time for the veteran to go, but now
the kid isn't ready. And I'm just kind of talking
in generalities here, but not a kid's not ready. You

(20:13):
know where you going to find a replacement? You think
that the teams that that got the replacement are going
to give away a player. No, if you're calling them
in May or you're calling them in late April, hey
you're going to pay a dollar and a half for
a dollar And so you know you've got to be
as sure as you can and trust your player Devellan people,
and trust your scouts to say, hey, this guy's ready

(20:37):
to do it, maybe full time, maybe part time, but
you're you know, you'll you go through some adjustment, but
you know he'll be fine. Another thing with with this team,
everybody upset a little bit about the opening part of
the season. You know they're two games up. This was
the time. If I'm if I'm any other team in
the NLS except Colorado, I'm even sure they're in the nlsmore.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
But the.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Three teams, you know, this was their time to really
take advantage of it, to be three up, four um,
five up. With the Dodgers chasing them, and here after
all of this, the Doughters are two up on everybody
and more on some. So this was in my you know,
there's always going to be a period of time where

(21:23):
the team doing the chasing has got a chance to
jump ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think the NL West probably lost their chance because
now the Dodgs are getting healthier, they they're they're starting,
pitching has been up upside down because of a lot
of injuries. You know, you've got Yama Mode, who you
can count on almost ninety percent of the time to
really give you a chance to win the game. But
you don't know, You're you're kind of, you know, hoping
from that point on a little bit. But where they set,

(21:52):
they sit two games up, you know what, you take
that in a heartbeat. So I think they're in a
great spot when you look at the long run that
is ahead of them, and the long run that's ahead
of everybody else, because everybody else has been playing I
want a full deck, but close to the full deck,
and they're playing as hard as they can play, and
the Dodgers are playing short staffed in some cases, and

(22:15):
they still got the leader over everybody.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Exactly all right, Ned, you want to do a recommendation
before we let you go for London, go for it.
Give me one sexy fish.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Whoa sexy fish?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Sexy fish, go to sexy fish.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, okay, it's one I won't forget. I can tell
you that. Okay, Yeah, you're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Seriously, you will love it. Okay, I'm assuming it's a
seafood place there, Fred, Right, sushi food.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh, there you go. I love that sushi.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Okay, get in there and then give us a report.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
You got it. I'll go tomorrow night before I go, sire.
All right, safe travel, thanks, always a pleasure. You're welcome,
all right.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
You understand if you're in LA, you gotta make moves.
You gotta win, and one team is ready to do that. Hey,
come on, Oh I like the funk, Ronnie. I like it.
I like what you're doing, Ronnie. I like what you're doing,

(23:24):
Ronnie Pete Fred Rogan on a throwback Thursday. Let's go, Freddie. Okay,
So here's the get to our man, Ned KLETTI, Ned
COLLETTI always great London. I want to travel with him, Fred,
I want to want to travel with him. He just
you know what and he's I think he's kind of
like the Pied Piper. People just gravitate to him. Oh
he's that kind of guy, you know it. You know,

(23:45):
no matter where he is, I'm sure. I mean he's
gonna go he's in London, but gonna go to Sweden.
I'm sure they will gravitate towards him as well when
he's over there, just like you said, Bye Piper. So
he did the show. He was actually in studio, if
I remember correctly, this is years ago. So he came in,
he did the show, and uh, afterwards, he goes, let's

(24:06):
go have a drink. So we went to Foreman's on
Riverside Drive. Yeah, yeah, yep, absolutely all right, the old
money Tree. He he old stories that you just laughed
at for hours.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
For two hours you were there.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, I was there and I was probably a little
or you were over served, So I stayed for another
hour just to make sure I was all right, because
but I was.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I didn't want to leave overserved, you know what that mean.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I mean Nay was picking up the tab and he
was like, you don't want to leave yet? Do you
let me tell you about this?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I was like sure, So that's Troy, you were there.
We sat there and laughed forever. It was a lot
of fun. It was a great time. Yeah, he's just
he's just such an engaging guy. You just want to
be around him. So we do appreciate him coming on. Okay,
in this city, you've got to win, you know the rules.
Number on one is win. Number two, be exciting. Three

(25:05):
half stars now, and maybe having stars and being exciting
is more important because if you have those, if you
don't win, you're okay. People will give you a pass.
But you've got to win. The Chargers learn that coming here,
you better make a splash. The Rams understood when they
came back, you better do something. When Guggenheim bought the Dodgers,

(25:26):
they knew immediately what needed to be done, even Steve
Balmer when he was able to acquire Kawhi and Paul George.
I'm trying. And the Lakers are always built around a star,
that's how they do it. But the Kings are to
a point where people have really had enough. They've been close,

(25:48):
but no cigar, and it's happened four straight years. They
understand the urgency. As the team gets older to do something,
they get it. They understand it. They know the fans
are restless, and as a fan, I'll tell you, I
am it's fun to watch him, but coming up short

(26:10):
being the bridesmaid every time isn't any fun. Does it
matter that you feel this way? Or does it matter
that as a King's fan you lost to Edmonton four
straight years? Not to me? Or is it doesn't? It
just doesn't matter of losing. You lost, you lost. You
didn't get over the hump. So they moved the Rob

(26:31):
Blake out, and of course we had Ken Holleton Howland
the new GM on. Well, here's the thing with Ken Holland.
He is now operating as if he is in a
debt sprint. He is moving one hundred miles an hour.
He actually had a two hour meeting I think with
Rob Blake, who we replaced, to get Rob Blake's thought

(26:53):
on the roster that Rob Blake put together. He wanted
to understand the thinking, the nuance, why you did what
you did. The Kings have camp room, and he told
us on the show he's going to talk to everybody,
make some trades. I think this is a very big
period of time for the Kings. They understand Dan Beckerman,

(27:15):
the CEO of AEG said, we understand it's time to win,
Luke Robotie, we understand it's when now you have an
older roster. It's sort of the Lebron theory. Your guys
are getting older, now is the time. So Rodney, I

(27:36):
think he is going to be exceptionally urgent now in
what he does, and I wouldn't be surprised to see
a number of changes with that roster next year. Yeahs.
Always caution when you know you you get that close,

(28:02):
and I know you always say somebody got to get it,
and I hear that, but I hate it. But I
always caution some a team or an organization that blows
it up, blows it up for the sake of blowing
it up, and it's because you didn't get over the
hump and you lost, you know, four straight open around

(28:26):
playoff appearances. You got bounced, and I think it does
say something though you got bounced by the same team
that that that hits I think even harder than just
it being different teams around the league. But I always
caution that because you you have to be somewhat close.
You got to be somewhat close to get to the playoffs,

(28:50):
and the Kings had a very good season this year,
a very good season. Yeah, and and and now it
just is okay, we're gonna blow that thing up. And
as ned we just had them on. It always says,
you better have something better walking through that door. You
better have something better walking through that door. Because if

(29:10):
they don't make the playoffs next year, or they take
a dip or a slide or whatever they take, what's
that gonna be like for Kings fans? What's that gonna
be like in the organization? Putting rosters together is playing chess. Yeah,
you've got to put the pieces in the right spot.

(29:31):
The Kings didn't have enough right pieces in the right spots.
I always think it's fascinating when you watch the construction
of teams. I really enjoy that. Yeah, that's why we
talk about Rob Polinka and what he has done or
not done, And you talk about the Dodgers and what
they have done, even how the Chargers with hardball, what
they're doing, how they build their rosters, because ultimately, if

(29:55):
everybody stays healthy, that's a big gift. But if they do,
then you would think if they've done a good job
building that roster, they got a legitimate shot. The Kings
have some issues. A goal turnder that was spectacular. That's
great news. Darcy Kemper outperformed everybody's expectations and at least

(30:17):
you can sleep easy at night knowing he's in the net.
You hope he repeats it next year. But they got older, guys.
I got like Isaakopitar played his whole career. Here feels
like he's in his twenty fifth season with the Kings. Yeah,
it really does. And despite the fact he's not. You
can see the end is he can see the finish line. Now,

(30:39):
when you start anything, you look out into the horizon
and all you see is open space and blue sky,
and you just keep going. And as you continue you
see open space and blue sky, and suddenly there's always
a point. What is that down there? Oh, that's the

(31:04):
end of this road. I don't know how long it'll
take me to get there, but I see it. That's
kind of where and j Copaitar is now he can
see way down there. He can see the end, as
unusual because most oftentimes as a player that that end
that road, it gets foggy. At the end, it gets

(31:26):
the fog comes in and rolls in. Fred you don't
really see it. Some some people do, and there's a
there's a minority of folks that see it clearly. But
oftentimes you don't see that road. That road kind of
veers to the right, or is it going to the
left or is it going to the right. It might
to go straight, is it is it a hill? Or

(31:47):
am I going on a dip? I mean where where
I can't really I can't really navigate that right now.
And and that's where you are towards the end of
your career, you know, and and it becomes a difficult challenge,
so many things to think about, so many things to consider,
you know, So it's it's not always an easy easy

(32:09):
path to call in it a call in it a day. Yeah,
But what I'm yes, I agree, and I think that's
a great analogy. But what I'm saying is for Colepatar,
he knows it's coming just when. I mean, he can't
play at least seventy you know what I mean. As
you said, it seems like he's been here twenty five years.

(32:31):
It does you want to win for him? Drew Dowdy,
he's been there since he's a kid, and boy, he's
still really good. But as a defenseman, he's on the
ice more than the forwards. I mean, the game takes
a toll on you. He can probably start to think
how much longer I have doing this. I'm not saying

(32:53):
it's tomorrow, but it's got to be entering his mind.
So they need to win for these guys now now,
for guys that have been here, they need to do
it now. They don't have the luxury. They're not in
a rebuild, they're not in a retool. They've got a
very good competitive roster. So they've got to win now,

(33:15):
and that's what Ken Holland is going to try to do.
I think you will start to see things happen like what. Oh.
I think he'll certainly he'll take some runs at free agents. Definitely. Yeah.
I think he'll try to move some guys. He'll start
moving guys, see what we can get in return for him.

(33:36):
I think that'll happen. I mean, a guy I love,
to be honest with you, I think he's been on
the show. Trevor Morris from Thousand Oaks love him, but
he's been up and down. Do they try to move him?
You look at their roster. There obviously are some concerns,
all right, so he's got to correct those, and to

(33:58):
correct those somebody's gonna go. Doesn't mean they didn't perform
well and fans don't love them, because the fans do
love him and they were great. But he's gonna do stuff.
It's going to happen. I don't think they're not starting
the season with the same roster. When they go to
training camp, it will not be the exact same roster.

(34:19):
Things will have changed. I'll be curious to see how
it works AEG which owns the king's nose. There is
a sense of urgency here and they hired a guy
to get it done now. He didn't sign to be
the GM for ten years. He's sixty nine years old.
He's signed to be the GM right now and in

(34:40):
the next year or two. We need to be where
we need to be. You get us there, he's like
the fixer. Yeah, get us to where we need to be.
Is that drastic or is that like you mentioned, is
it one or two pieces? Because those are two different things,
and those are the challenges of making big drastic moves

(35:04):
doesn't always take one or two years. So where are
you are you gonna go drastic or Are you just
gonna get one piece here and maybe one or two
pieces and that's all we need to take us to
the next level? Are they that close? I think he'll
make more than two moves. I'll put it like that, Okay,

(35:24):
I think I think you'll make more than two moves,
and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
Number one hamburger chain in the West is we will
discuss that. Uh huh ohha, Ronnie the world bringing all

(35:47):
it back running, pe pret Roken, Come on, now, where
do you get toil burger from? Exactly here we go?
Top burger chains in the United States. Hope did the
survey seven of the top burger chains in the United
States or in southern California. But if you go down

(36:08):
and look at the top twenty five, so this is
the national list, the national list, top twenty five, number
one burger chain of the country. We've talked about it
in the past. If you love it, you do. If
you're fanatical about it, you are not my number one.
But it's in and out, in and out is your winner.

(36:30):
Rodney mm hmmm, h I get it. If you close
your eyes and you just woke up in the middle
of the night. Yeah, In and Out would be your
winner if you live here, especially if you live here
in southern California. You know, I ain't some people. And
it hasn't lost It hasn't lost it's it's lust to me,

(36:52):
hasn't lost its gusto, hasn't lost its flavor. It's been
very consistent since it broke on the scene. And I
love In and Out Burger. And it's a testament when
you drive by an In and Out Burger and you
see the lines lined up for an In and Out Burger.
You don't see that at any other burger chain the
way you see it at In and Out. I was

(37:12):
reading the other day and I don't know exactly what
it was, but I think they changed their menu a
little bit. Oh exactly what that does? I don't know.
Oh no, we don't want that, you know, are they
They're not going to start doing chicken nuggets, are they?
I don't think that was it or like zuokin. Oh,
their adjustments are slight, But that's number one. That's the
reason they're number one is because they're they don't try

(37:34):
to be anything other than a burger joint. Give me
that double double animal style. Let's do that there you go,
right and go yeah baby. Number two nationally the habit
the habit is number two. Wow, it's to habit a
a California based burger joint or is it isn't a

(37:56):
national brand? I know it's the web. Seven. Are are
California your base? Yeah, it's in the west. You don't
see the habit across the country. And this is this
is a this is burger joints around the country, right, correct, correct,
not just in California, right, but this is the list nationally.
And then you break it down, all right. Number three
is shake Shack Okay, burst on the saying Shakeshack got

(38:19):
a good reputation. Number four is something called Culvers. It
comes from the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Interesting. Number five when it comes to burgers is Islands.
I don't know if I would have thought that, I
certainly would have. Yeah, Islands is you know, they they
do have They do have good burgers though, big burgers. Yeah,
a lot of meat, a lot of meat with the

(38:48):
Island burgers. Okay. Following that is Freddy's Frozen Custard and
State Burgers. No clue from the Midwest, but I don't either.
Way back burgers, way back Burgers. You forgot five guys.
They haven't. We haven't hit them yet.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
We had just skipped over five guys. Yes, they were
before way back.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay, all right, five guys. Yeah, something called mu yah Burgers.
No clue, uh yah? Yeah were they based you know, No,
I'm looking at the list. It doesn't even say where
they're based. Yeah, muhyah, muh yah.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Here's another shocker to me. I had one of my favorites,
Red Robin, Red Robina. Okay, I don't have a great
association with Red Robin.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I associated Red Robin with their BS Bottomless Fries promotion.
They give you like three fries at a time. Yeah,
so they give you a burger and they give you
the little the basket of fries next to it, and
you say like, oh want some more? All right, we'll
get can get you a couple of more. They literally
have like four fries in the basket.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You know, I kind of see Red Robin as like
a glorified Denny's.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah right, yeah, oh yeah I do too. I I
can't get with the Red Robin.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
When I was a kid, I was into I was
into Red Robin. Similar to when I was a kid,
I was into Dennies these days, I can I can
take him or leave him.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah. I almost choked to death at Red Robin. Mmm
on a French fry. No, on a chicken wrap? Of
course you did, of clicking wrap? Yeah, yeah, I'd get
heimlichd Now.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Who gave you, Michelle?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, yeah she did.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I actually gave you the Heimich because she just punched
you in the gut a few times and it just
happened to come out.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
No, she had to give it to me.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
It would have been funny if Paul Moyer gave you
the Heimlich got sound.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Paul would have said, you're fine, Fred, Yeah right, you're
fooling around, Fred, Paul, have a night of Fred, have
another bite at chicken?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah? Walk walk it off the floor, it off, walk
it off, baby, walk it off. Yeah. That was Yeah,
that was so I don't have, with all due respect,
I just don't have a great association with Red Robin
after that. Okay, all right, let's just run him down
the rest. Jack in the boxes in there something called
cook out And I don't know where cookouts from. Cooks
from the South, that makes sense. Uh yeah, yeah, burger fi,

(41:11):
I don't know where that's from either Oh now, my
favorite water Burger, Rodney water Burger. There it is what
a burger should be, followed by Wallburger's. That's uh, Mark Wahlberg,
Smash Burger, McDonald's. Sonic.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Tell you what, it's a little high for Sonic if
you're if I'm going to be.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Honest, really not a big You're not big on Sonic.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
No, not really and not the only one who's not
big on Sonic. I'll put it that way. There, Linemates amazing.
The burgers leave a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
To be desired. Maybe it's just the drive up, you know,
car hop thing that kind of yeah, Like maybe.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Where's Bob's a big boy on that list? Red Bob's
is not here, but Bob super big boy, come on travesty.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
No I know. And I'll tell you that list and everybody,
I've said it once before. Anyway, after it's Burger King, Whitecastle,
Fat Burger, Wendy's, Carls Juniors, Checkers, and Steak and Shake.
That's a list. But I'll tell you one thing about
Bob's and I've said up before, and it's gonna be
hot this weekend, right, I mean's supposed to be really
hot and some of you may not be prepared for it.

(42:17):
If you don't have good air conditioning, if your air
conditioning doesn't work, or you're not turning it on for
whatever reason, go to Bob's on Riverside and too Local Lake.
I would drive there immediately. That is the coldest place
on the planet, that is, honest to God, like a
meat locker. I've never been into a place.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
And the seats don't help either. Fred the one, the
seats they're nice and cold.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, well, everything there's cold. It's like there's no vents
on the air conditioners. It's just like there's a hole
in the ceiling with cold air blowing out. If it
is hot, go to Bob's. Go to Bob's on Riverside.
I think it's called Bourbank. It's to Local Lake.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
But go there.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You will well, you'll catch you a pneumonia. You'll freeze,
you will freeze, you will literally freeze, and all have
an icicle with Bob's.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And also while you're there, order a super big Boy combo.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And the way to get yourself nice and warmest, order
a malt?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Their malts are excellent. I'll say that phenomenal. That Bob's
is absolutely.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Funny for it. There's always people at that Bob's.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Right, well, especially a Friday night. Don't go to on
a Friday night unless you have a hot rod or something.
I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh yeah, they got the classic cars, sure do. Yeah,
and those are cool, they really are. It's really sweet.
How hot is it going to be this weekend? Now
that I think about it? Very hot? It is all right,
very hot? All right, everybody Friday night, we'll see it Bob's.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Are they paying us for that promotion?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
By the way, does anybody pay us for anything? Well,
that's a good point. I mean, we're talking about uts Kevin, right,
you know what I mean? All Right, USC's talk about
the Trojans and what they're gonna do with Notre Dame.
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