May 30, 2025 • 42 mins
Bill Plaschke hops on to talk about the end of Around the Horn, the current state of the Dodgers and the Lakers' offseason. Batting average for position players and wins for starting pitchers arent as important as they used to be. Is the legalization of sports gambling inadvertently the reason why so many players are recieving threats on social media?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Then we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete The Big
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(01:06):
See now that now you've perked up a little bit,
didn't you. Rodney, Special guest Star, Oh, special guest Star.
Oh Norman Powell the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh, Okay, read point, Stuart, nare Norman Powell, and let
me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, don't mess with Norman Powell. Don't make that mistake.
Do not step to Norman Powell. Don't step to him. No,
because when he's on the court, I've seen him look
at guys and those guys wish they were dead. He's
just wow. If he looks at you a certain way,
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you're in big trouble. Have you ever noticed that about
Norman Powell when he plays next season? No, Oh yeah,
he'll look at somebody and that guy will think he's
he should just light out. It's over. He's got a look.
So you don't want to get that little from Norman Powell.
But he'll be there with us next Friday. We invite
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everybody down. I'm sure we'll have some other stuff to
give away. And as I said earlier, Rodney, we don't
get out very much. We don't know, so for us,
this is like a jail break. We could lose our
mind out there. We could do anything out there because
we're finally going somewhere. But it's next Friday. We'll see
you at Sketchers Pch at Crenshaw in Torrents all right, now,
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let's welcome on our good friend from the La Times,
Bill Plashki and Bill. Thanks for jumping on.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Thanks Gret. What's going on? Man?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, well, let's start with the end of an
era around the Horn. Now, you wrote a lovely oh
bit piece to it. What was it like working on
that show?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was so great. It was like being in the
sports bar talking sports with your buddy and getting points
for it. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I did twenty two years and I can't believe I
lasted there long. It was just a blast. It was
just a I think we really related to him to America.
We had great rates for twenty two years. It was
all alone and Seinefields. But it was like it was
just like being in a sports bar. It was like
talking to you and getting paid for it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, it was great. Did you do a lot of
prep for that? I mean, walk people through what that
was like on a daily basis when you did it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, it was a lot of prep. It was a
lot of stress. It became really big, became three, the
three that I liked. I had to get up at
seven in the morning. We had we have a conference
called seven thirty and then we do our prep until
about ten thirty or eleven, and it shows showed me
the show's tape about eleven from eleven and twelve thirty,
just about about five hours, six hour day every day.
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And that then that's like a moonlight job. It wasn't
my main I that's not my main job. There was
a lot of a lot of prep work and it
became and the beginning it was just us joking around,
but it became serious. We had really no status and
stuff and no hockey. It was so bad on hockey nights.
I'd have to stay up the night before and watch
all those sports that I was a little aim so were
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the preper works started the night before. There was there
was a lot of work, but it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But if it was an half hour show, why did
it take you ninety minutes to tape it?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Well, no, I will I show Tuesday nighties. That's the
window we had. Oh we take We pretty much got
it go bust. Most most day it was thirty five
forty went taping. But but some days we get confused
in our arguments. But we would be bad. We well,
we may makee bad mistakes and we have to reshoot it.
But it was Yeah, it was generally part of thirty
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five forty we tape, but it was a lot of
It was just a lot. It was just it became
really big. Became it became really big. It's been a
lot more than what I bargained for.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It was so fun and uh so, why did they
take it off the air? What was their reasoning for it?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They gave no reason, because they have no reason. They
got tired of it, and they got tired of watching
us old guys. There's three fourths OWD guys. And so
long as they got tired walking, they got tired of
waking the new kids. They got tired of the format.
They got tired of they got tired of everybody got
tired of us. That's the only the only reason I have.
They had no They have no easing. They can't do
radiance because the rains were great. They're better than anything
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on the network besides the pt I. They can't do money.
It was really cheap to produce. We made that much money,
so it was there was yet tired of it. I
don't think they ever really liked it. They were it
was so different. It was it was for the common man,
and I don't think they liked it. I think they
were they rather pay the money in the big stars
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and the big the big names, and they didn't like
the having a journalists.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Uh. And how do they tell you Bill it's over?
I mean, after that many years, how do they do it?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
They don't You read about it on a blog from
somebody who has the sores, and then and then he
was waiting, and then then then they finally announced it
three or three months later. So we we we heard
about this back in December. But no fans there were
talked to me. I mean no one, no, none of
the bosses of very spoken set of wordering me about
this at all. All my my round the horn boss
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and the producers, all people I'm very close to them,
of course, But no, they just didn't and they didn't
do it. They didn't tell didn't. Here's the reason.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
They just dumped this on a butt welcome, Welcome to
this business.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Bill it is you know what it's all about, the
ten million dollars, the voices, it's about the four they
want four athletes. Often they don't want. They of the
don't want, They don't want to incite anymore. So it's
that that's the way in the world of a break.
The fact we're asking about I appreciate you asking.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh no, you were great on it, and I'm sure paid. Okay,
So you know it's sad. It's going.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, no, it's sad for many many reasons. Read in concluded,
I'm sad it's gone.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Bell Playski is with us. Okay, So you've got the Yankees,
You've got the Dodgers. Tonight people are going, well, this
is it. The Yankees want their revenge, and my position is, Bill,
there's no revenge to be had. I mean, the World
Series is over. These are regular season games. What do
you think about this series?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I agree with you. This is not my revenge. The
only revenge that happened to the Yankees can be in
the World Series next year. This is about the Dodgers
finding their way. I'm concerned about him for the first time.
I'm concerned about him. Everybody talks about, well, they're they're
ahead of the pottery of the Giants. It's not about
the potter of the Giants. It's about the Cubs and
the Phillies and the Mets. The Doctors are only the
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six best team in baseball. They're barely five hundreds. Is
they do start, they're bullpen legally and bone saves. Tanna
Scott's terrible. It's I'm worried about the pitching. I'm worried
about the The bullpen's overworld most games in baseball. I'm concerned
they don't have that it that it's back in the
head last year. I'm just that worries me. I think
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the loss in Cleveland was a real gut punch.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, No, that was bad. That was bad. See, I'm
not really concerned about the pitching because I'm of the belief,
and perhaps this is wishful thinking, that the guys will
be back and healthy. So I think that'll happen. But
what I am concerned about is Tanner Scott. At this point,
he's here for one reason. They signed him to this
deal for one specific reason, and the only reason they
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signed him for is what he's not delivering on. And
I think that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I've got I've got a solution. Fred Bobby Miller.
He put Boby Miller, make him a closer like Eric Ganye,
of course you do. Eric Ganymig was a bad started
WF Boby Miller, who gave him closer and you get
the rest in baseball for the rest of the baseball history.
He was on the Jews, but he's still a great closer.
(08:23):
Why not make Bobby Miller a closer?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, don't you think, Bill, don't you think we have
to find out that Bobby Miller can still be around
the plate.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I think he can't want any I think he can
throw snow for anything. Last I tried it, or Bensparius
try him. You can't count Cannas Scott. He's he's seen me.
I think he's lost it. And you're right, they stay pint.
This is both of their paper we're leaving. They made
a lot of my brand to do one thing and
he's not doing it, and they need a closer. And
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Blake Trying's great, but he's aging. Michael Kupeck's great. He's
a set of guys. You need a close star body
Miller program. Take an the closer. You save his army,
you save his career, You may save the season.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I think here's the concern, though, You've got to figure
out what you're gonna do with Tanner Scott. I mean,
he signed for four years, so you have to figure
out what it is you're going to do with him
and how you're going to try to fix it, and
in the process of trying to fix it, my real
concern is, can you just keep trotting him out there
until you figure out what's happening and have him work
on it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, you can't. You've got to faking injury. Get him
on the IL, get him down the Opo City, get
him the finals, the league. You can't. He can't find
the back on the mountains. The station too big, and
the Dodgers admitted the station. But the Dodgers admitted this
regular season is a big deal because when they get
rid of Chris Taylor and Autin Barnes, they acknowledge their
concerned about the season. They acknowledge that the season's was
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of Sean Finnix. They acknowledge that that they have to
win these games and they can't win with Tanner Scott
and that kills them, that kills the whole team. Yep,
saylight doesn't win during day long player right home, and
you're all, it's also bumpy winn The gain not nothing.
That there were a lot of the team more than
the closer lower of the lead.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that's the problem that that that's it. It's a
momentum killer.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
The Dodgers leading the league blow saying that's bad, that's
that's terrible. So this weekend the Dodgers are gonna find himself.
I'm also concerned about that. I'm also concerned about and
I'm sure you're not gonna agree me on this. Mookie
Bess is playing great shortstop. He's playing tremendous the lead
level shortstop.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Thin's affecting the city. And you've got a lead level
truck stop. Roy has one of them back to the shortstop,
but moving back to the outfield. Want to do that?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh, I don't think that's gonna happen doing it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But but but why not? Why would you consider it?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
What are you thinking he's gonna hit better if he
plays in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yes, it's the old Mookie. I missed the old Mookie.
And Michael confers not getting the job done. He's not
he's not being able what they thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, but I can't see him doing that. Bill, you
know though, they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, but I wish it was just stary to say
the movie is not the same offensively as he has
that he's not the same hitter. He's just not the same.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, but you can't draw the correlation that it's because
he's playing shortstop.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, you can't tell you again, because he's he's so
devoted to he's such a good shortstop. Now he's put
all the time of effort into that and defending that city.
He's a great shortstop. But he's putting all the work
in there, in there, and I'll doing not the foes.
I want the city. I think Andy's the thing he's
watching where you watch what happens, He's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know, Bill, I don't agree with you on
this one. I don't think he forgot forgot how to
hit because he's playing shortstop. I think he's just struggling
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I think he's distracted by playing short stop. I think
he wants get hit. That distraction his grand hitting years
when he played the outfield case closed.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I'll tell you i'd like to see play more.
Is Kim. I think he's really excited.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I love him. Oh, I agree. He's so fast, he's tremendous.
I love watching him play. The comment he's great Kim's
agreement with all watching him play. I love watching Andy
Pye at play. He's playing great now playing great center field.
I love a love the kids. What do you do
with back Luncy?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I think it's got another year after this one?
If I if I remember correctly.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Do you trade back Luncy?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, here's the thing. And by the way, we love
Max Munci, but here's the thing. And if the guy's
it in two twelve and he's really there because you
need him to hit home runs, that's why he's there.
You eat his average for his home run count, and
he's really not hitting home runs yet this year. That's
when you have to start thinking about things.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I agree. I think he's on the train blocks. Don't
make whatever moves is it necessarily though they'll make a
big move. They have to. They're not gonna blow this.
Just run there on the do everything they can to
get it back. And my my problem is, but he
still comes back. We know how he's going to be.
Kyler Glassfeld's never been. They're healthy, the kid Rogie, well
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what they have in him. Oh so we were a
lot on Cleaton cursh ardor to Winness World Chairs leaving again.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You can't so you can't. No, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I know what they are right now? They are.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, but word may.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm concerned marked as right, is that I'm concerned. No,
you're not concerned at.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
All, not really, No, I'm not. But here's why. Because
I really do believe the pitchers are coming back. That's
the first thing. When I don't know, But when do
you really need them? What you think they're gonna lose
so many games they're gonna fall out of contention. No,
I don't think that's the case at all. So you
kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Lose home field advantage and Dr Davis the base advantage
they have. Dr Davis is a great, great range play there.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay, but again, I don't think they're going to be
in a position. Yeah, you'd like to have them have
more breathing room. And of course, with a roster that's
assembled like this, Bill, you think, well, god, they should
win almost every game. I mean, that's how good they are.
And at the beginning of the year, where you one
of the people that said they can win one hundred
and twenty games, because I said, I don't care if
they win ninety five games, as long as they be
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the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That's good. Thank you. Sir, what pieces your friend?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Sorry, buddy, Oh, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What what kind of pizza? Jorder?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Sausage of everyone?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Nice?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Best thing ever praised?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, yeah, you're working tonight, so you got to have
your big meal now you gotta you got a carbol load.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, no, I'm I'm Bill recovering again. I'll be out
there a Monday Sunday.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So you're gonna watch the game on TV tonight? Yep,
all right, makes it easy. So you're not gonna write
tomorrow no matter what.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No, because the way our thing is, it's hard to
get on the web to get trafficked on the weekends.
And Bill's for Bill does a big time with the Dodgers.
Do you know that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Isn't that interesting? You probably game pud me.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Are you going to the game?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, I'm gonna watch on TV too. But what's interesting
is you just said that, And I don't think the
average person understands on the weekends it's tough to get
traffic on the website. All of that is analyzed, right,
there's analytics and it goes into every decision made.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, it is everything. Everything was in the area, every
every every every May and and uh yeah, and and
then I'll be doing the Mets next week. Next week
the Mets come in. So those are four big games.
They got seven big games coming fred.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, and it makes it exciting for Dodger fans. Big
games coming up. But again, Bill, let's say they split
all these big games. They're fine, right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I think it's exclude their time. But they were
one six or two and five. That's not good. No,
they need Dodger Stadium to be at play in October. Yes,
the TV AREDI in baseball, they need that the whole field.
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They came to home field. That's huge.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right. Before we let you go, I want to
ask you this. When you look at what the Lakers
have to do, can they get it done? You have
to pay Lebron, you have to pay Luca. Are they
going to be a real contender next year?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No, they can't get under his trade off degrees. They
have trailff degree to do that. And I don't think
you don't think they will because they love them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm not sure how they feel. I think they need
to see and I think Lebron becomes a critical piece
of the team. Yet someone that holds them where they're
at In other words, if Lebron is gone, how does
Austin Reeves and Luca? How do they play together? Does
that work? Because that could impact.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It was the same player, It doesn't work, right, but
that could impact your thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So if Lebron's not here, you can move Austin Reeves.
But what if Lebron is here and then you think
you number one player? Short?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Lebron's coming back? Bred do you know he's not leaving?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I know, I know. So what I'm saying is he's here.
It changes what they might want to do with Austin Reeves.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, but I think I
think they love them so much you're not gonna trade him,
not know what? And it doesn't work. You just I
don't see them, you see. Okay? Are they the same leaders? Okay?
See No, No, Minnesota, No, those two trees that a way,
says the Coustian Rockets. No. I think they're there. Are
fourth of press, best in the West right now, and
I'll see you get name better. But as what we said,
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I said this to you for six years. Until Lebron leaves,
nothing's gonna change. They will not win until Lebron leaves. Period,
and you're agreeing to me.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, No, I agree with that. I agree it is
what it is. I think they'll be better with Luca
than they were with Anthony Davis. But I can't see
them winning the whole thing constructed as they are.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
No, and it's so bad. That's Lebron's so he's so
fun to watch, and I love watching. I love Bills.
It's great to deal with. He's doing great for the city,
he's great for the Lakers. But he has to leave
for anything.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
All right, how much of that pizza are you gonna eat? Now?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The whole thing?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What size?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Medium? Okay, getting large? Actually I'm totally large, right, No, No,
you're not too old.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
It wouldn't be it wouldn't be advisable. You'd you'd you
feel it for a while, but you could.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Still for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Ill. Also, you know about sticks?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Did you order any of those?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, Well, now you canna eat pizza and mozzrella sticks.
So it's like a large pizza.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's a beautiful day of Blacky households. This is wonderful, priss.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, Well, enjoy the pizza him goodbye? All right, Well,
Bill's going to enjoy his pizza as well. He should,
but you see he wasn't completely honest. I can't eat
a large pizza anymore. Oh, I get it. But I
ordered a whole order of mozzarella sticks too, and a
meetium pizza. That's why you can't eat the whole pizza. Yeah,
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all right, when we come back. Sure you like to
wager on games? Let me tell you it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, yes, he is a bad Manmatilla. It's Friday. We
don't care, Rodney, pet Fred Rogan. Come on, it's Dodgers
Yankee ready, Dodgers Yankees weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Man, come on, ain'tcited about that? What are you doing?
I know it's gonna be a great series, it really is,
and I said it earlier. Rodney. If you've got a ticket,
congratulations to you, because these are tough tickets to come by.
It's gonna be huge out at the stadium. A lot
of electricity, a lot of energy, always the case when
Dodgers and Yankees get together, but certainly after what happened
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last year and again the we're gonna seek revenge and
we're gonna get them now, and you're gonna pay for
what you did to us. None of that is true.
None of that is true. That's true. No, none of
that is true. So anybody from New York that might
be listening and saying, all right, we owe you, we
got to this time, it doesn't matter. You just have
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to understand that you're gonna have to deal with it.
You're gonna have to wear it. You're gonna have to
eat it. That you got beat in the World Series,
you got to eat it. But the only way you
can avoid it is you have to win the World
Series and you have to beat the Dodgers in the
World Series.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, I was gonna say, you got to beat the
Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You can't. Somehow the the Cubs get in there and
you beat the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That doesn't work, or the Padres get in there and
you beat the Padres.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Doesn't work. You gotta beat the Dodgers. Gotta beat the Dodgers.
You beat the Dodgers, you're doing well, then you can
have your revenge. And if not, you don't get revenge.
And you just have to. As I said, and with
all due respect to everybody got it, just just man up,
eat it and move on. I think it'll be curious
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to see how quickly. The Dodgers score tonight. You never't
want to fall behind, but I would hope in this
series they would get on the board first and be
able to maintain that lead. That that would be great.
You have Max Free going against Tony Gonsolin. You love
Max Freed? I do. I do.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I've loving him, you know since he was a little
leiguer At and sing O little league. That's how far
I go back with Max Freed, way way back. No,
his family, No, it's dad really well, great kid and
then you know, obviously had some great years in Atlanta
and the Yankee signed him to the big deal. But
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uh what a great kid at a big time, big time,
big time picture. So yeah, I do. I love Max Freed.
It's going to be a battle. Max Freed is usually done.
He's done pretty good against the Dodgers, and it's gonna
be tough for them. Lefty on Lefty with Otani and
Freddie Freeman, so we'll see, we'll see how it goes
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and Munsey and Munsey. Yeah, yeah, so big time left
he's in the lineup and the Dodger lineup that he's
got to deal with and and they got actually say opposite,
they got to deal with him lefty on lefty, So
we will we will see it's gonna be it's gonna
be key for Mookie and ta Oscar and Will Smith,
those guys come through. Uh, hidden from the other side.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, F's been pretty dominant this year too, by the way. Yeah,
he really has, like unbelievably dominant.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I know, he's living up to that contract that they
signed him to, which they did sign him to a
big deal. So, and also Cody Bellinger coming back to town,
who's been pretty good for the Yankees too, So I'm
you know, Cody's one of those guys he root for,
you know, you know, he did some great he had
some great years early on for the Dodgers, you know,
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moved around, went to the Cubs, and now he's he's
with the Yankees, and he's having a pretty good year.
He's had some gigantic hits for the Yankees this season too, So.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's good to see him.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's gonna good, be really good to see him come
back to Dodger Stadium, Uh, in that Yankee uniform. Obviously,
his dad, Clay played for the Yankees, so him playing
for the Yankees is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Do you think he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Maybe it's too early for this, but I know it's
only June and these guys just signed their new contracts,
Max Freed, Blake Snell.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Soon too soon? Okay, too soon, all right, as they
had a chance at both of them. What you're saying absolutely.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
We disbated this how many times on the show in
the off season during the hot Stove. Who would you
rather have? Yeah, Nell's had the injury history, Freed has
been relatively healthy. And again it's early, it's it's may
cross it over to June. Freed's been dominant and Blake
Snell apparently has been dealing with this issue since before
spring training and never said anything, and now he's on
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the injury list.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, but you know, let's make that decision after the
All Star break. Fair enough.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, I'm just asking just throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, and I like it, But are you, Kevin? Are
you just throwing it out there? Kevin, I'm just saying it.
I think you got to wait. We have to see
what happens when Snell comes back, and my guess is
that he's going to be pretty good, as he normally is.
You know, he really warms up in the second half
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of the season anyway, and that's when the Dodgers need him.
So I think we can have that conversation, but we
better have it like August first. Then then we'll have
a sample size of both of them, because Freen's not
immune to getting hurt either. No, no picture is over
the years.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, no picture is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Right, not not in this age.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, for sure, those pictures having no being iron Man
and going out there for three hundred innings and you know,
are we going to see you know, I know Kershaw's
coming up on three thousand strikeouts?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Are we going to see that? Ever? Again? He might
be the last one that ever does it. I think
that's gonna be up left. It's gonna be doubtful.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, three thousand strikeouts. Remember three hundred wins was always
a big thing. Yeah, I think Verlanders is trying to
knock on the door that. I think he's like thirty
something start or thirty something wins. Short of that, guys
don't pitch long enough. Wins aren't even emphasized anymore. Like
three thousand strikeouts. Thirty wins I think were a thing
of the past. Now as a bench more, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Nobody cares, you know, same thing with You see these
guys average, and it's like, oh, well, whatever, Freddie Freeman
is hitting over three hundred, Aaron Judge is, you know,
he'd been hovering around four hundred close to the season.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Nobody talks about it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You remember in the days where Tony Gwenn and George Brett,
those guys, Wade Boggs and those guys were hovering, always
hovering around three eighty three ninety through Rod carew big
portion of the season. That was such a big deal
because Ted Williams was the last guy to hit four hundred,
uh and was a gigantic milestone. Nobody cares anymore how
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many home runs you got, how many home runs you got,
and and what's your what's your ops? And you know
those other stats that that really for me this whatever,
But yeah, nobody cares about average anymore. Strikeouts, nobody cares.
Nobody even tracks strikeouts anymore. This is like a thing
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of a past. You know, that's what wins games for you, though,
those things win games for you still.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But in pitching, you know what they look at now.
Quality starts go at least six innings, give up less
than three runs. Quality starts, well, it starts go six
innings and less than three runs. What does that mean?
That gets you? It keeps in the game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Who was the pitcher for the Dodgers that was like
had all the wins, and wins are not as you know,
the people didn't care about wins anymore. It was like
era and something. But but I forget it was not
too long. It was a couple of years ago. Yes, yeah,
like eight I think he got I had a twenty
win season almost and we were talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was like, oh, yeah, wins are not as important
as x y Z Tyler Anderson didn't pitch that well
for the Dodgers, did he especially well enough?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, I don't think wins.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But he did have a very good year for them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Because there was somebody, no it was it was uh,
what's my name? My man? He was He was a
stockbroker too. God. Oh, Ross Stripling, who was just tired
Ross Stripling?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yes, yes, I think it was Ross Stripling who had
like some like eighteen nineteen wins for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
He had an incredible year.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Remember it's an All Star that year as well, just
went on one of those phenomenal tears didn't win cy Young,
but I think his win total he was. I think
he beat everybody by like three or four games. That
he is its win total. But it didn't it didn't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh, Jake Downey just texted me Orius won twenty Arias
that is that's it wasn't stripling, it was Arias because.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I remember Arias was on a pitch County. They handled
him with kid gloves his first three four years in
the league.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Absolutely, that's right.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
He got twenty wins and and nobody it was like
he wasn't even in the It was in the conversation,
but he wasn't even like nobody thought he was gonna
win it with twenty wins.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Jake, thank you, you nailed that one. Good job that
was that was perfect. Yeah, thanks Jake.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Twenty and three he went in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, twenty and three. Wait, wait a minute, and that
was the year everybody thought he always got to win
the cy Young Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
So now he was twenty and three. His era was
two nine six. He made thirty two starts. He was
seventh in cy Young voting that year.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, seven seventh, imagine that seventh. You go, you win,
you go twenty and three. What I'm saying like, it's
all changed. It's all changed. Nobody cares if you got
you know, if you strike out a hundred million times,
as long as you you know, you hit home runs
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and you had extra base hits and you hit for power,
that's all that matters. And your walk, Get on base,
Get on base, get on base, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And I think that's you know, I heard you, you know,
earlier on in the opening of the show.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You talked about one soda and the bad deal. But
that's his forte is getting on base, you know. He's
very selective and getting on base. And and yes, it
looks like a bad deal. Now who knows, who knows
how it's going to turn out. But the stats and
all the things that mattered twenty years ago don't matter anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Kevin who won the cy Young that year with Arios?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I just closed it, But I believe it was Corbyn Burns.
The comparable numbers. His era was two four to three,
Orius was two nine to six. He had fewer wins
than Orius did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and I remember, I think I remember Bess talking
about it. It was like the emphasis was more on
the era than it was on wins, which is interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Isn't that crazy when you think about it. Yeah, guy
wins twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You can lose a game, lose a game one to nothing,
and that's better than winning a game three to two.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
By the way, Rio has pitched more innings than Burns
did that year. Burns pitched one hundred and sixty seven
ores one eighty five.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, travesty.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He gave up more hits and a few more home
runs for sure, but he was out there. He had
more appearances and pitched just as well.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
How many whins did Burns have, Kevin, did you say that.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Corbyn Burns had? He was eleven and five.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Twenty and three. Yes, got eleven and five.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And it'd be different if Oreos was twenty and three
and just got a crazy amount of run support, and
you know, his e R was four point two.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It'd be differently exactly if his ERA was not it
was out, you know, outrageous, it was like four or five,
and you know, uh, then you could do okay, okay, Yeah,
he gave it up a lot of runs. He's just
got run support because he's with the Dodgers. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But his e RA was under three.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Just I mean it's same with with Corbyn Burns and
eleven and five. Beat a guy that went twenty and three,
more starts.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
More innings, or he has had over over Burns.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Who else finished ahead of him?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Kevin zach Staler, Zach Wheeler was ahead of him, Scherzer, Walker, Buehler,
Brandon Woodruff, Kevin Gussman. All those guys finished ahead of him.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What was Bueller's record?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Buehler was sixteen and four that year with a two
four seven ERA. Pretty good year, two hundred and seven innings.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Pretty good year. Yeah, better better than Corbyn Burns here. Definitely,
things have so dramatically changed in the way that they
evaluate performance in baseball from when you played Rodney. No,
I mean Melisseriahs of the Padres is a great hitter.
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He got knocked on conscious like a month ago, so
it's taken him a little wild.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But he's always he's always hovering around three three point
thirty three fifty in average. Yeah, he's not celebrated anymore now. Again,
he's kind of been woozy because he ran into somebody
at first base on an ESPN game and it was
out for like a week.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But now he's starting to come back. He's always right
around three point thirty solid, two for four, three for four,
and he doesn't get you know, he doesn't get the
flowers he deserves because he's not hitting home runs. Right.
But I ask you this, when you watch the Dodgers
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play and you get down to the seven, eight and nine,
you know, if somebody gets on, yeah, you'd like the
next guy to hit a home run. But let's say
he doesn't. Wouldn't in that situation just slapping one into
the gap and putting two on be as valuable as
that home run with the top of the order coming up.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Absolutely, absolutely, well, especially today now that the ship has
been banned, because that was always the answer to this.
Why do you guys worry about hitting home run so
much and hit the ball in the air. It's like, well,
if we hit it on the ground, they scout us
so well, everything is a ground ball. But I get
the ground ball at first base or into the shift
and I get thrown out. Well, now that there's a
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band on the shift, you should, in theory be able
to hit for a better average on ground balls. But
yet it still doesn't seem like anybody's you know, really
caring about that?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But why how did it get to this point? And
maybe you guys know the answer to this. You know,
a good major league hitter ten years ago, a good
hitter HiT's about two seventy two waity, is that fair?
A good hitter? Yeah? Yeah, consider a good hitter. Yeah yeah,
we want a guy hitting about two seventy two eighty.
We want you in the lineup. Guys are hitting like
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two twelve yeah, one and their starters. What happened? Did
the pitchers just get that much better? How could guys
go right in a tank like that? I don't understand it,
and I get well, swing for the fence, a whole
run is better, but you still have to hit the ball,
you see, to hit it? How can averages drop so dramatically?
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Nobody cares about averages anymore?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You know, you go, you go, you know, one for five,
But yet if you hit a home run or you
hit a double, that's that's better than you go in
three for five with three singles.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, it's about slugging in total bases.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I just getting on. Well, that's why a guy
like Munsi is still valuable to the Dodgers. Correct, because
he's not hitting for average, it hasn't in a while. Yeah,
you just pray this is the this is the one
he's gonna get a hold of. But for the problem
for a guy like Max, if he's not hitting thirty
dingers but his average is like two twenty, if they
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hits twelve to fifteen home runs, that's not gonna work anymore. No,
that it goes out the window, because you got to
have If he's going to hit two twelve, two fifteen,
he's got to hit thirty home runs and that's a
successful season. You know, you can't.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You can't hit two twelve two fifteen as an average
and only hit fifteen home runs. That doesn't work, you know,
But there were guys. You know, back then we're notorious
for at least at least hitting above two seventy to eighty, right,
And there were multiple multiple guys hitting three hundreds. There
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were a lot of guys hitting three hundred three, three twelve,
three fifteen, three twenty, and the better ones were hitting
three sixty, three seventy. You know, there's always somebody chasing
a four hundred. Yeah, but you rarely see that anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right now, league average is two forty four. That's the
who that's the twelfth worst in the history of the sport.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Going back to the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That twelfth worst league overall average two forty four.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Right now, how about that? How about that? That's the
league average. Yes, two forty four is a league average.
Ten years ago, a guy hitting two forty four, he
could be sent down. You know, you had to hit
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better than that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What did they used to say, you hit three hundred,
you're in the Hall of Fame. Not anymore, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, we got to talk about the dangers of gambling. Oh,
by the way, if you're gambling, it's not dangerous to you.
That's next.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. It's Friday, Yankees in town.
Come on, BC boys, Rodney p Fred Rogan on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Come on, We're going out to the stadium to talk
with David vassaying here in about ten minutes. All right, So,
with gambling legalized state of California, of course, you can't
really wage around the games, but what you can do
is play prize picks and fan duel things like that. Anyway,
everybody gets into it and you can decide who's going
(37:15):
to do what, how will they perform at a certain
point during the game, and it's pretty exciting and it
doesn't break the bank. I mean, you know, you can
bet five ten bucks on this stuff and if you
get lucky, you can parlay it and go on. I've
tried it, my kids have done it. I'm sure everybody's
giving it a crack. And it's fun, it really is.
And you don't have to spend all your money doing it.
(37:36):
So you think, well, this is fun for me, and
if I can make up up a couple of bucks, great,
If not, at least I didn't spend very much. You
know what, it's not fun for who the players. It's
not fun for the players. And you'll want to know
why it's not fun for the players.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, you got that guy, You got that guy, Frett,
Go ahead tell me.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Because if you start betting on things and lose in
today's world, with the ability to contact people in social media,
you're upset. So if Lance mccullor's junior goes in and
pitches and gives up a run or costs his team
a game because of his performance on that night, what
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happened was all of a sudden, he is being threatened
online with death threats, or if he has a tough start.
If he's not relieving, he has a tough start, he
gets knocked out early. He's receiving death threats online. Now,
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if that's not enough, his wife and kids are receiving
death threats online. He's got a five year old daughter. Now,
think about that. His wife is being threatened and you know, ah,
there's nothing to it. Really, in today's world. There's nothing
to it. In today's world, you wouldn't worry about that.
(39:03):
You just shrug your shoulders and shake it off. You
probably wouldn't. So now what he's had to do is
hire security to protect his family because he had a
rough outing. Christian Yelli. They can't even go to the
games anymore. His family go to the games. Yeah, his
(39:23):
family is kids, which we all look forward to as
a player. I know this.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You wanted and I played as long as I could
and wanted to stay in the league as long as
I could because I wanted my kids to see me play.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Freddie Freeman, you know, says the same thing. Most guys
will say the same thing. I want my kids to
see me play and my family to see me play.
And he said it the other day, I can't have
my kids and my family go to the games anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
That is That is the is the saddest, most ridiculous
thing in the world, is that we're talking about guys
that are out there, going out giving it. They're all
and and sports. We all know sometimes it works out,
sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. And
(40:19):
yet people take it that serious that they're gonna they're
gonna threaten to harm your family and yourself. That is
just it's unacceptable, it's unapprefible.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And the problem is this. You know, uh, you can
say whatever you want to somebody and you shouldn't say it,
but I don't know, years and years ago, that person
just really upset. You're not killing anybody. I mean, stop, stop,
it's wrong. Stop today. If somebody says that, you're thinking,
oh my god, you don't know what's gonna happen. You
(40:53):
don't you can and you know what, and it's easy
for everybody else to shrug that off, nah unless it's you.
Imagine if that was you in whatever you did in
your line of work, all of a sudden someone threatened
you or your family, and it doesn't matter what your
job is, what would you think would you know n
(41:16):
that's not a big deal. Or would you go, oh
my god, do I need to hire security? Do I
have to start paying to protect my family because there's
some lunatic out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Just imagine if you didn't right, you don't know, and
you didn't hire security, or you didn't take it seriously,
and something bad happened, then how would you really feel.
You'd be like or anybody around you be like, oh
my god, this is this is the worst thing in
the world.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I didn't take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And when twenty twenty five, when there are a lot
of people out there that are on edge, I see
nowadays you got to you gotta take every threat as
a serious threat.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
And that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's really really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And I think there's.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Got to be a special place for anyone that threatens
somebody like that, threatens to harm someone's family over social media.
We have enough technology to find out where it's coming
from and who did that, and there should be no
tolerance policy on anyone that does something like that, and
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they need to be under the jail, under the jail
or even making any kind of threat like that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
As we continue and count down to Game one of
the Dodgers and Yanks. Tonight, when we come back out
to the stadium, we'll go and join David Vassa
Then we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete The Big
Friday Show on AM five seventy LA Sports A programming note.
If you're not there, it's on you, because we're going
to give you plenty of notice and warning. Next Friday,
one week from today, we're going to be at the
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And you can get three pair for the price of
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at Sketchers PCH at Crenshaw up in Torrance and Rodney
there will be a special guest star. Oh that's right.
(01:06):
See now that now you've perked up a little bit,
didn't you. Rodney, Special guest Star, Oh, special guest Star.
Oh Norman Powell the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh, Okay, read point, Stuart, nare Norman Powell, and let
me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, don't mess with Norman Powell. Don't make that mistake.
Do not step to Norman Powell. Don't step to him. No,
because when he's on the court, I've seen him look
at guys and those guys wish they were dead. He's
just wow. If he looks at you a certain way,
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you're in big trouble. Have you ever noticed that about
Norman Powell when he plays next season? No, Oh yeah,
he'll look at somebody and that guy will think he's
he should just light out. It's over. He's got a look.
So you don't want to get that little from Norman Powell.
But he'll be there with us next Friday. We invite
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everybody down. I'm sure we'll have some other stuff to
give away. And as I said earlier, Rodney, we don't
get out very much. We don't know, so for us,
this is like a jail break. We could lose our
mind out there. We could do anything out there because
we're finally going somewhere. But it's next Friday. We'll see
you at Sketchers Pch at Crenshaw in Torrents all right, now,
(02:27):
let's welcome on our good friend from the La Times,
Bill Plashki and Bill. Thanks for jumping on.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Thanks Gret. What's going on? Man?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, well, let's start with the end of an
era around the Horn. Now, you wrote a lovely oh
bit piece to it. What was it like working on
that show?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was so great. It was like being in the
sports bar talking sports with your buddy and getting points
for it. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I did twenty two years and I can't believe I
lasted there long. It was just a blast. It was
just a I think we really related to him to America.
We had great rates for twenty two years. It was
all alone and Seinefields. But it was like it was
just like being in a sports bar. It was like
talking to you and getting paid for it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, it was great. Did you do a lot of
prep for that? I mean, walk people through what that
was like on a daily basis when you did it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, it was a lot of prep. It was a
lot of stress. It became really big, became three, the
three that I liked. I had to get up at
seven in the morning. We had we have a conference
called seven thirty and then we do our prep until
about ten thirty or eleven, and it shows showed me
the show's tape about eleven from eleven and twelve thirty,
just about about five hours, six hour day every day.
(03:39):
And that then that's like a moonlight job. It wasn't
my main I that's not my main job. There was
a lot of a lot of prep work and it
became and the beginning it was just us joking around,
but it became serious. We had really no status and
stuff and no hockey. It was so bad on hockey nights.
I'd have to stay up the night before and watch
all those sports that I was a little aim so were
(04:00):
the preper works started the night before. There was there
was a lot of work, but it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But if it was an half hour show, why did
it take you ninety minutes to tape it?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Well, no, I will I show Tuesday nighties. That's the
window we had. Oh we take We pretty much got
it go bust. Most most day it was thirty five
forty went taping. But but some days we get confused
in our arguments. But we would be bad. We well,
we may makee bad mistakes and we have to reshoot it.
But it was Yeah, it was generally part of thirty
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five forty we tape, but it was a lot of
It was just a lot. It was just it became
really big. Became it became really big. It's been a
lot more than what I bargained for.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It was so fun and uh so, why did they
take it off the air? What was their reasoning for it?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They gave no reason, because they have no reason. They
got tired of it, and they got tired of watching
us old guys. There's three fourths OWD guys. And so
long as they got tired walking, they got tired of
waking the new kids. They got tired of the format.
They got tired of they got tired of everybody got
tired of us. That's the only the only reason I have.
They had no They have no easing. They can't do
radiance because the rains were great. They're better than anything
(05:05):
on the network besides the pt I. They can't do money.
It was really cheap to produce. We made that much money,
so it was there was yet tired of it. I
don't think they ever really liked it. They were it
was so different. It was it was for the common man,
and I don't think they liked it. I think they
were they rather pay the money in the big stars
(05:26):
and the big the big names, and they didn't like
the having a journalists.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Uh. And how do they tell you Bill it's over?
I mean, after that many years, how do they do it?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
They don't You read about it on a blog from
somebody who has the sores, and then and then he
was waiting, and then then then they finally announced it
three or three months later. So we we we heard
about this back in December. But no fans there were
talked to me. I mean no one, no, none of
the bosses of very spoken set of wordering me about
this at all. All my my round the horn boss
(05:59):
and the producers, all people I'm very close to them,
of course, But no, they just didn't and they didn't
do it. They didn't tell didn't. Here's the reason.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
They just dumped this on a butt welcome, Welcome to
this business.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Bill it is you know what it's all about, the
ten million dollars, the voices, it's about the four they
want four athletes. Often they don't want. They of the
don't want, They don't want to incite anymore. So it's
that that's the way in the world of a break.
The fact we're asking about I appreciate you asking.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh no, you were great on it, and I'm sure paid. Okay,
So you know it's sad. It's going.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, no, it's sad for many many reasons. Read in concluded,
I'm sad it's gone.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Bell Playski is with us. Okay, So you've got the Yankees,
You've got the Dodgers. Tonight people are going, well, this
is it. The Yankees want their revenge, and my position is, Bill,
there's no revenge to be had. I mean, the World
Series is over. These are regular season games. What do
you think about this series?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I agree with you. This is not my revenge. The
only revenge that happened to the Yankees can be in
the World Series next year. This is about the Dodgers
finding their way. I'm concerned about him for the first time.
I'm concerned about him. Everybody talks about, well, they're they're
ahead of the pottery of the Giants. It's not about
the potter of the Giants. It's about the Cubs and
the Phillies and the Mets. The Doctors are only the
(07:12):
six best team in baseball. They're barely five hundreds. Is
they do start, they're bullpen legally and bone saves. Tanna
Scott's terrible. It's I'm worried about the pitching. I'm worried
about the The bullpen's overworld most games in baseball. I'm concerned
they don't have that it that it's back in the
head last year. I'm just that worries me. I think
(07:33):
the loss in Cleveland was a real gut punch.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
No, No, that was bad. That was bad. See, I'm
not really concerned about the pitching because I'm of the belief,
and perhaps this is wishful thinking, that the guys will
be back and healthy. So I think that'll happen. But
what I am concerned about is Tanner Scott. At this point,
he's here for one reason. They signed him to this
deal for one specific reason, and the only reason they
(07:59):
signed him for is what he's not delivering on. And
I think that's a real problem.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I've got I've got a solution. Fred Bobby Miller.
He put Boby Miller, make him a closer like Eric Ganye,
of course you do. Eric Ganymig was a bad started
WF Boby Miller, who gave him closer and you get
the rest in baseball for the rest of the baseball history.
He was on the Jews, but he's still a great closer.
(08:23):
Why not make Bobby Miller a closer?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, don't you think, Bill, don't you think we have
to find out that Bobby Miller can still be around
the plate.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I think he can't want any I think he can
throw snow for anything. Last I tried it, or Bensparius
try him. You can't count Cannas Scott. He's he's seen me.
I think he's lost it. And you're right, they stay pint.
This is both of their paper we're leaving. They made
a lot of my brand to do one thing and
he's not doing it, and they need a closer. And
(08:54):
Blake Trying's great, but he's aging. Michael Kupeck's great. He's
a set of guys. You need a close star body
Miller program. Take an the closer. You save his army,
you save his career, You may save the season.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I think here's the concern, though, You've got to figure
out what you're gonna do with Tanner Scott. I mean,
he signed for four years, so you have to figure
out what it is you're going to do with him
and how you're going to try to fix it, and
in the process of trying to fix it, my real
concern is, can you just keep trotting him out there
until you figure out what's happening and have him work
on it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, you can't. You've got to faking injury. Get him
on the IL, get him down the Opo City, get
him the finals, the league. You can't. He can't find
the back on the mountains. The station too big, and
the Dodgers admitted the station. But the Dodgers admitted this
regular season is a big deal because when they get
rid of Chris Taylor and Autin Barnes, they acknowledge their
concerned about the season. They acknowledge that the season's was
(09:49):
of Sean Finnix. They acknowledge that that they have to
win these games and they can't win with Tanner Scott
and that kills them, that kills the whole team. Yep,
saylight doesn't win during day long player right home, and
you're all, it's also bumpy winn The gain not nothing.
That there were a lot of the team more than
the closer lower of the lead.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, that's the problem that that that's it. It's a
momentum killer.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
The Dodgers leading the league blow saying that's bad, that's
that's terrible. So this weekend the Dodgers are gonna find himself.
I'm also concerned about that. I'm also concerned about and
I'm sure you're not gonna agree me on this. Mookie
Bess is playing great shortstop. He's playing tremendous the lead
level shortstop.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Thin's affecting the city. And you've got a lead level
truck stop. Roy has one of them back to the shortstop,
but moving back to the outfield. Want to do that?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh, I don't think that's gonna happen doing it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But but but why not? Why would you consider it?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
What are you thinking he's gonna hit better if he
plays in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yes, it's the old Mookie. I missed the old Mookie.
And Michael confers not getting the job done. He's not
he's not being able what they thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, but I can't see him doing that. Bill, you
know though, they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, but I wish it was just stary to say
the movie is not the same offensively as he has
that he's not the same hitter. He's just not the same.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, but you can't draw the correlation that it's because
he's playing shortstop.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, you can't tell you again, because he's he's so
devoted to he's such a good shortstop. Now he's put
all the time of effort into that and defending that city.
He's a great shortstop. But he's putting all the work
in there, in there, and I'll doing not the foes.
I want the city. I think Andy's the thing he's
watching where you watch what happens, He's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know, Bill, I don't agree with you on
this one. I don't think he forgot forgot how to
hit because he's playing shortstop. I think he's just struggling
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I think he's distracted by playing short stop. I think
he wants get hit. That distraction his grand hitting years
when he played the outfield case closed.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I'll tell you i'd like to see play more.
Is Kim. I think he's really excited.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I love him. Oh, I agree. He's so fast, he's tremendous.
I love watching him play. The comment he's great Kim's
agreement with all watching him play. I love watching Andy
Pye at play. He's playing great now playing great center field.
I love a love the kids. What do you do
with back Luncy?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I think it's got another year after this one?
If I if I remember correctly.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Do you trade back Luncy?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, here's the thing. And by the way, we love
Max Munci, but here's the thing. And if the guy's
it in two twelve and he's really there because you
need him to hit home runs, that's why he's there.
You eat his average for his home run count, and
he's really not hitting home runs yet this year. That's
when you have to start thinking about things.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I agree. I think he's on the train blocks. Don't
make whatever moves is it necessarily though they'll make a
big move. They have to. They're not gonna blow this.
Just run there on the do everything they can to
get it back. And my my problem is, but he
still comes back. We know how he's going to be.
Kyler Glassfeld's never been. They're healthy, the kid Rogie, well
(12:49):
what they have in him. Oh so we were a
lot on Cleaton cursh ardor to Winness World Chairs leaving again.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You can't so you can't. No, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I know what they are right now? They are.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, but word may.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm concerned marked as right, is that I'm concerned. No,
you're not concerned at.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
All, not really, No, I'm not. But here's why. Because
I really do believe the pitchers are coming back. That's
the first thing. When I don't know, But when do
you really need them? What you think they're gonna lose
so many games they're gonna fall out of contention. No,
I don't think that's the case at all. So you
kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Lose home field advantage and Dr Davis the base advantage
they have. Dr Davis is a great, great range play there.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay, but again, I don't think they're going to be
in a position. Yeah, you'd like to have them have
more breathing room. And of course, with a roster that's
assembled like this, Bill, you think, well, god, they should
win almost every game. I mean, that's how good they are.
And at the beginning of the year, where you one
of the people that said they can win one hundred
and twenty games, because I said, I don't care if
they win ninety five games, as long as they be
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the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That's good. Thank you. Sir, what pieces your friend?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Sorry, buddy, Oh, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What what kind of pizza? Jorder?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Sausage of everyone?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Nice?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Best thing ever praised?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, yeah, you're working tonight, so you got to have
your big meal now you gotta you got a carbol load.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, no, I'm I'm Bill recovering again. I'll be out
there a Monday Sunday.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So you're gonna watch the game on TV tonight? Yep,
all right, makes it easy. So you're not gonna write
tomorrow no matter what.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No, because the way our thing is, it's hard to
get on the web to get trafficked on the weekends.
And Bill's for Bill does a big time with the Dodgers.
Do you know that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Isn't that interesting? You probably game pud me.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Are you going to the game?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, I'm gonna watch on TV too. But what's interesting
is you just said that, And I don't think the
average person understands on the weekends it's tough to get
traffic on the website. All of that is analyzed, right,
there's analytics and it goes into every decision made.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, it is everything. Everything was in the area, every
every every every May and and uh yeah, and and
then I'll be doing the Mets next week. Next week
the Mets come in. So those are four big games.
They got seven big games coming fred.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, and it makes it exciting for Dodger fans. Big
games coming up. But again, Bill, let's say they split
all these big games. They're fine, right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I think it's exclude their time. But they were
one six or two and five. That's not good. No,
they need Dodger Stadium to be at play in October. Yes,
the TV AREDI in baseball, they need that the whole field.
(15:42):
They came to home field. That's huge.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right. Before we let you go, I want to
ask you this. When you look at what the Lakers
have to do, can they get it done? You have
to pay Lebron, you have to pay Luca. Are they
going to be a real contender next year?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No, they can't get under his trade off degrees. They
have trailff degree to do that. And I don't think
you don't think they will because they love them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm not sure how they feel. I think they need
to see and I think Lebron becomes a critical piece
of the team. Yet someone that holds them where they're
at In other words, if Lebron is gone, how does
Austin Reeves and Luca? How do they play together? Does
that work? Because that could impact.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It was the same player, It doesn't work, right, but
that could impact your thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So if Lebron's not here, you can move Austin Reeves.
But what if Lebron is here and then you think
you number one player? Short?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Lebron's coming back? Bred do you know he's not leaving?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I know, I know. So what I'm saying is he's here.
It changes what they might want to do with Austin Reeves.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, but I think I
think they love them so much you're not gonna trade him,
not know what? And it doesn't work. You just I
don't see them, you see. Okay? Are they the same leaders? Okay?
See No, No, Minnesota, No, those two trees that a way,
says the Coustian Rockets. No. I think they're there. Are
fourth of press, best in the West right now, and
I'll see you get name better. But as what we said,
(17:07):
I said this to you for six years. Until Lebron leaves,
nothing's gonna change. They will not win until Lebron leaves. Period,
and you're agreeing to me.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, No, I agree with that. I agree it is
what it is. I think they'll be better with Luca
than they were with Anthony Davis. But I can't see
them winning the whole thing constructed as they are.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
No, and it's so bad. That's Lebron's so he's so
fun to watch, and I love watching. I love Bills.
It's great to deal with. He's doing great for the city,
he's great for the Lakers. But he has to leave
for anything.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
All right, how much of that pizza are you gonna eat? Now?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The whole thing?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What size?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Medium? Okay, getting large? Actually I'm totally large, right, No, No,
you're not too old.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
It wouldn't be it wouldn't be advisable. You'd you'd you
feel it for a while, but you could.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Still for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Ill. Also, you know about sticks?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Did you order any of those?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, Well, now you canna eat pizza and mozzrella sticks.
So it's like a large pizza.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's a beautiful day of Blacky households. This is wonderful, priss.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, Well, enjoy the pizza him goodbye? All right, Well,
Bill's going to enjoy his pizza as well. He should,
but you see he wasn't completely honest. I can't eat
a large pizza anymore. Oh, I get it. But I
ordered a whole order of mozzarella sticks too, and a
meetium pizza. That's why you can't eat the whole pizza. Yeah,
(18:42):
all right, when we come back. Sure you like to
wager on games? Let me tell you it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, yes, he is a bad Manmatilla. It's Friday. We
don't care, Rodney, pet Fred Rogan. Come on, it's Dodgers
Yankee ready, Dodgers Yankees weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Man, come on, ain'tcited about that? What are you doing?
I know it's gonna be a great series, it really is,
and I said it earlier. Rodney. If you've got a ticket,
congratulations to you, because these are tough tickets to come by.
It's gonna be huge out at the stadium. A lot
of electricity, a lot of energy, always the case when
Dodgers and Yankees get together, but certainly after what happened
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last year and again the we're gonna seek revenge and
we're gonna get them now, and you're gonna pay for
what you did to us. None of that is true.
None of that is true. That's true. No, none of
that is true. So anybody from New York that might
be listening and saying, all right, we owe you, we
got to this time, it doesn't matter. You just have
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to understand that you're gonna have to deal with it.
You're gonna have to wear it. You're gonna have to
eat it. That you got beat in the World Series,
you got to eat it. But the only way you
can avoid it is you have to win the World
Series and you have to beat the Dodgers in the
World Series.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, I was gonna say, you got to beat the
Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You can't. Somehow the the Cubs get in there and
you beat the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That doesn't work, or the Padres get in there and
you beat the Padres.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Doesn't work. You gotta beat the Dodgers. Gotta beat the Dodgers.
You beat the Dodgers, you're doing well, then you can
have your revenge. And if not, you don't get revenge.
And you just have to. As I said, and with
all due respect to everybody got it, just just man up,
eat it and move on. I think it'll be curious
(20:44):
to see how quickly. The Dodgers score tonight. You never't
want to fall behind, but I would hope in this
series they would get on the board first and be
able to maintain that lead. That that would be great.
You have Max Free going against Tony Gonsolin. You love
Max Freed? I do. I do.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I've loving him, you know since he was a little
leiguer At and sing O little league. That's how far
I go back with Max Freed, way way back. No,
his family, No, it's dad really well, great kid and
then you know, obviously had some great years in Atlanta
and the Yankee signed him to the big deal. But
(21:25):
uh what a great kid at a big time, big time,
big time picture. So yeah, I do. I love Max Freed.
It's going to be a battle. Max Freed is usually done.
He's done pretty good against the Dodgers, and it's gonna
be tough for them. Lefty on Lefty with Otani and
Freddie Freeman, so we'll see, we'll see how it goes
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and Munsey and Munsey. Yeah, yeah, so big time left
he's in the lineup and the Dodger lineup that he's
got to deal with and and they got actually say opposite,
they got to deal with him lefty on lefty, So
we will we will see it's gonna be it's gonna
be key for Mookie and ta Oscar and Will Smith,
those guys come through. Uh, hidden from the other side.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, F's been pretty dominant this year too, by the way. Yeah,
he really has, like unbelievably dominant.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I know, he's living up to that contract that they
signed him to, which they did sign him to a
big deal. So, and also Cody Bellinger coming back to town,
who's been pretty good for the Yankees too, So I'm
you know, Cody's one of those guys he root for,
you know, you know, he did some great he had
some great years early on for the Dodgers, you know,
(22:37):
moved around, went to the Cubs, and now he's he's
with the Yankees, and he's having a pretty good year.
He's had some gigantic hits for the Yankees this season too, So.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's good to see him.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's gonna good, be really good to see him come
back to Dodger Stadium, Uh, in that Yankee uniform. Obviously,
his dad, Clay played for the Yankees, so him playing
for the Yankees is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Do you think he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Maybe it's too early for this, but I know it's
only June and these guys just signed their new contracts,
Max Freed, Blake Snell.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Soon too soon? Okay, too soon, all right, as they
had a chance at both of them. What you're saying absolutely.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
We disbated this how many times on the show in
the off season during the hot Stove. Who would you
rather have? Yeah, Nell's had the injury history, Freed has
been relatively healthy. And again it's early, it's it's may
cross it over to June. Freed's been dominant and Blake
Snell apparently has been dealing with this issue since before
spring training and never said anything, and now he's on
(23:35):
the injury list.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, but you know, let's make that decision after the
All Star break. Fair enough.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, I'm just asking just throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, and I like it, But are you, Kevin? Are
you just throwing it out there? Kevin, I'm just saying it.
I think you got to wait. We have to see
what happens when Snell comes back, and my guess is
that he's going to be pretty good, as he normally is.
You know, he really warms up in the second half
(24:04):
of the season anyway, and that's when the Dodgers need him.
So I think we can have that conversation, but we
better have it like August first. Then then we'll have
a sample size of both of them, because Freen's not
immune to getting hurt either. No, no picture is over
the years.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, no picture is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Right, not not in this age.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, for sure, those pictures having no being iron Man
and going out there for three hundred innings and you know,
are we going to see you know, I know Kershaw's
coming up on three thousand strikeouts?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Are we going to see that? Ever? Again? He might
be the last one that ever does it. I think
that's gonna be up left. It's gonna be doubtful.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, three thousand strikeouts. Remember three hundred wins was always
a big thing. Yeah, I think Verlanders is trying to
knock on the door that. I think he's like thirty
something start or thirty something wins. Short of that, guys
don't pitch long enough. Wins aren't even emphasized anymore. Like
three thousand strikeouts. Thirty wins I think were a thing
of the past. Now as a bench more, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Nobody cares, you know, same thing with You see these
guys average, and it's like, oh, well, whatever, Freddie Freeman
is hitting over three hundred, Aaron Judge is, you know,
he'd been hovering around four hundred close to the season.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Nobody talks about it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You remember in the days where Tony Gwenn and George Brett,
those guys, Wade Boggs and those guys were hovering, always
hovering around three eighty three ninety through Rod carew big
portion of the season. That was such a big deal
because Ted Williams was the last guy to hit four hundred,
uh and was a gigantic milestone. Nobody cares anymore how
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many home runs you got, how many home runs you got,
and and what's your what's your ops? And you know
those other stats that that really for me this whatever,
But yeah, nobody cares about average anymore. Strikeouts, nobody cares.
Nobody even tracks strikeouts anymore. This is like a thing
(25:58):
of a past. You know, that's what wins games for you, though,
those things win games for you still.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But in pitching, you know what they look at now.
Quality starts go at least six innings, give up less
than three runs. Quality starts, well, it starts go six
innings and less than three runs. What does that mean?
That gets you? It keeps in the game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Who was the pitcher for the Dodgers that was like
had all the wins, and wins are not as you know,
the people didn't care about wins anymore. It was like
era and something. But but I forget it was not
too long. It was a couple of years ago. Yes, yeah,
like eight I think he got I had a twenty
win season almost and we were talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It was like, oh, yeah, wins are not as important
as x y Z Tyler Anderson didn't pitch that well
for the Dodgers, did he especially well enough?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, I don't think wins.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But he did have a very good year for them.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Because there was somebody, no it was it was uh,
what's my name? My man? He was He was a
stockbroker too. God. Oh, Ross Stripling, who was just tired
Ross Stripling?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yes, yes, I think it was Ross Stripling who had
like some like eighteen nineteen wins for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
He had an incredible year.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Remember it's an All Star that year as well, just
went on one of those phenomenal tears didn't win cy Young,
but I think his win total he was. I think
he beat everybody by like three or four games. That
he is its win total. But it didn't it didn't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh, Jake Downey just texted me Orius won twenty Arias
that is that's it wasn't stripling, it was Arias because.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I remember Arias was on a pitch County. They handled
him with kid gloves his first three four years in
the league.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Absolutely, that's right.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
He got twenty wins and and nobody it was like
he wasn't even in the It was in the conversation,
but he wasn't even like nobody thought he was gonna
win it with twenty wins.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Jake, thank you, you nailed that one. Good job that
was that was perfect. Yeah, thanks Jake.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Twenty and three he went in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, twenty and three. Wait, wait a minute, and that
was the year everybody thought he always got to win
the cy Young Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
So now he was twenty and three. His era was
two nine six. He made thirty two starts. He was
seventh in cy Young voting that year.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, seven seventh, imagine that seventh. You go, you win,
you go twenty and three. What I'm saying like, it's
all changed. It's all changed. Nobody cares if you got
you know, if you strike out a hundred million times,
as long as you you know, you hit home runs
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and you had extra base hits and you hit for power,
that's all that matters. And your walk, Get on base,
Get on base, get on base, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And I think that's you know, I heard you, you know,
earlier on in the opening of the show.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You talked about one soda and the bad deal. But
that's his forte is getting on base, you know. He's
very selective and getting on base. And and yes, it
looks like a bad deal. Now who knows, who knows
how it's going to turn out. But the stats and
all the things that mattered twenty years ago don't matter anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Kevin who won the cy Young that year with Arios?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I just closed it, But I believe it was Corbyn Burns.
The comparable numbers. His era was two four to three,
Orius was two nine to six. He had fewer wins
than Orius did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and I remember, I think I remember Bess talking
about it. It was like the emphasis was more on
the era than it was on wins, which is interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Isn't that crazy when you think about it. Yeah, guy
wins twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You can lose a game, lose a game one to nothing,
and that's better than winning a game three to two.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
By the way, Rio has pitched more innings than Burns
did that year. Burns pitched one hundred and sixty seven
ores one eighty five.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, travesty.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He gave up more hits and a few more home
runs for sure, but he was out there. He had
more appearances and pitched just as well.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
How many whins did Burns have, Kevin, did you say that.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Corbyn Burns had? He was eleven and five.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Twenty and three. Yes, got eleven and five.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And it'd be different if Oreos was twenty and three
and just got a crazy amount of run support, and
you know, his e R was four point two.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It'd be differently exactly if his ERA was not it
was out, you know, outrageous, it was like four or five,
and you know, uh, then you could do okay, okay, Yeah,
he gave it up a lot of runs. He's just
got run support because he's with the Dodgers. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But his e RA was under three.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Just I mean it's same with with Corbyn Burns and
eleven and five. Beat a guy that went twenty and three,
more starts.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
More innings, or he has had over over Burns.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Who else finished ahead of him?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Kevin zach Staler, Zach Wheeler was ahead of him, Scherzer, Walker, Buehler,
Brandon Woodruff, Kevin Gussman. All those guys finished ahead of him.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What was Bueller's record?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Buehler was sixteen and four that year with a two
four seven ERA. Pretty good year, two hundred and seven innings.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Pretty good year. Yeah, better better than Corbyn Burns here. Definitely,
things have so dramatically changed in the way that they
evaluate performance in baseball from when you played Rodney. No,
I mean Melisseriahs of the Padres is a great hitter.
(31:49):
He got knocked on conscious like a month ago, so
it's taken him a little wild.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But he's always he's always hovering around three three point
thirty three fifty in average. Yeah, he's not celebrated anymore now. Again,
he's kind of been woozy because he ran into somebody
at first base on an ESPN game and it was
out for like a week.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But now he's starting to come back. He's always right
around three point thirty solid, two for four, three for four,
and he doesn't get you know, he doesn't get the
flowers he deserves because he's not hitting home runs. Right.
But I ask you this, when you watch the Dodgers
(32:30):
play and you get down to the seven, eight and nine,
you know, if somebody gets on, yeah, you'd like the
next guy to hit a home run. But let's say
he doesn't. Wouldn't in that situation just slapping one into
the gap and putting two on be as valuable as
that home run with the top of the order coming up.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Absolutely, absolutely, well, especially today now that the ship has
been banned, because that was always the answer to this.
Why do you guys worry about hitting home run so
much and hit the ball in the air. It's like, well,
if we hit it on the ground, they scout us
so well, everything is a ground ball. But I get
the ground ball at first base or into the shift
and I get thrown out. Well, now that there's a
(33:10):
band on the shift, you should, in theory be able
to hit for a better average on ground balls. But
yet it still doesn't seem like anybody's you know, really
caring about that?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
But why how did it get to this point? And
maybe you guys know the answer to this. You know,
a good major league hitter ten years ago, a good
hitter HiT's about two seventy two waity, is that fair?
A good hitter? Yeah? Yeah, consider a good hitter. Yeah yeah,
we want a guy hitting about two seventy two eighty.
We want you in the lineup. Guys are hitting like
(33:40):
two twelve yeah, one and their starters. What happened? Did
the pitchers just get that much better? How could guys
go right in a tank like that? I don't understand it,
and I get well, swing for the fence, a whole
run is better, but you still have to hit the ball,
you see, to hit it? How can averages drop so dramatically?
(34:04):
Nobody cares about averages anymore?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You know, you go, you go, you know, one for five,
But yet if you hit a home run or you
hit a double, that's that's better than you go in
three for five with three singles.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, it's about slugging in total bases.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, I just getting on. Well, that's why a guy
like Munsi is still valuable to the Dodgers. Correct, because
he's not hitting for average, it hasn't in a while. Yeah,
you just pray this is the this is the one
he's gonna get a hold of. But for the problem
for a guy like Max, if he's not hitting thirty
dingers but his average is like two twenty, if they
(34:47):
hits twelve to fifteen home runs, that's not gonna work anymore. No,
that it goes out the window, because you got to
have If he's going to hit two twelve, two fifteen,
he's got to hit thirty home runs and that's a
successful season. You know, you can't.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You can't hit two twelve two fifteen as an average
and only hit fifteen home runs. That doesn't work, you know,
But there were guys. You know, back then we're notorious
for at least at least hitting above two seventy to eighty, right,
And there were multiple multiple guys hitting three hundreds. There
(35:27):
were a lot of guys hitting three hundred three, three twelve,
three fifteen, three twenty, and the better ones were hitting
three sixty, three seventy. You know, there's always somebody chasing
a four hundred. Yeah, but you rarely see that anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Right now, league average is two forty four. That's the
who that's the twelfth worst in the history of the sport.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Going back to the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That twelfth worst league overall average two forty four.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Right now, how about that? How about that? That's the
league average. Yes, two forty four is a league average.
Ten years ago, a guy hitting two forty four, he
could be sent down. You know, you had to hit
(36:12):
better than that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What did they used to say, you hit three hundred,
you're in the Hall of Fame. Not anymore, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, we got to talk about the dangers of gambling. Oh,
by the way, if you're gambling, it's not dangerous to you.
That's next.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. It's Friday, Yankees in town.
Come on, BC boys, Rodney p Fred Rogan on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Come on, We're going out to the stadium to talk
with David vassaying here in about ten minutes. All right, So,
with gambling legalized state of California, of course, you can't
really wage around the games, but what you can do
is play prize picks and fan duel things like that. Anyway,
everybody gets into it and you can decide who's going
(37:15):
to do what, how will they perform at a certain
point during the game, and it's pretty exciting and it
doesn't break the bank. I mean, you know, you can
bet five ten bucks on this stuff and if you
get lucky, you can parlay it and go on. I've
tried it, my kids have done it. I'm sure everybody's
giving it a crack. And it's fun, it really is.
And you don't have to spend all your money doing it.
(37:36):
So you think, well, this is fun for me, and
if I can make up up a couple of bucks, great,
If not, at least I didn't spend very much. You
know what, it's not fun for who the players. It's
not fun for the players. And you'll want to know
why it's not fun for the players.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, you got that guy, You got that guy, Frett,
Go ahead tell me.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Because if you start betting on things and lose in
today's world, with the ability to contact people in social media,
you're upset. So if Lance mccullor's junior goes in and
pitches and gives up a run or costs his team
a game because of his performance on that night, what
(38:21):
happened was all of a sudden, he is being threatened
online with death threats, or if he has a tough start.
If he's not relieving, he has a tough start, he
gets knocked out early. He's receiving death threats online. Now,
(38:42):
if that's not enough, his wife and kids are receiving
death threats online. He's got a five year old daughter. Now,
think about that. His wife is being threatened and you know, ah,
there's nothing to it. Really, in today's world. There's nothing
to it. In today's world, you wouldn't worry about that.
(39:03):
You just shrug your shoulders and shake it off. You
probably wouldn't. So now what he's had to do is
hire security to protect his family because he had a
rough outing. Christian Yelli. They can't even go to the
games anymore. His family go to the games. Yeah, his
(39:23):
family is kids, which we all look forward to as
a player. I know this.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You wanted and I played as long as I could
and wanted to stay in the league as long as
I could because I wanted my kids to see me play.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Freddie Freeman, you know, says the same thing. Most guys
will say the same thing. I want my kids to
see me play and my family to see me play.
And he said it the other day, I can't have
my kids and my family go to the games anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
That is That is the is the saddest, most ridiculous
thing in the world, is that we're talking about guys
that are out there, going out giving it. They're all
and and sports. We all know sometimes it works out,
sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. And
(40:19):
yet people take it that serious that they're gonna they're
gonna threaten to harm your family and yourself. That is
just it's unacceptable, it's unapprefible.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And the problem is this. You know, uh, you can
say whatever you want to somebody and you shouldn't say it,
but I don't know, years and years ago, that person
just really upset. You're not killing anybody. I mean, stop, stop,
it's wrong. Stop today. If somebody says that, you're thinking,
oh my god, you don't know what's gonna happen. You
(40:53):
don't you can and you know what, and it's easy
for everybody else to shrug that off, nah unless it's you.
Imagine if that was you in whatever you did in
your line of work, all of a sudden someone threatened
you or your family, and it doesn't matter what your
job is, what would you think would you know n
(41:16):
that's not a big deal. Or would you go, oh
my god, do I need to hire security? Do I
have to start paying to protect my family because there's
some lunatic out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Just imagine if you didn't right, you don't know, and
you didn't hire security, or you didn't take it seriously,
and something bad happened, then how would you really feel.
You'd be like or anybody around you be like, oh
my god, this is this is the worst thing in
the world.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I didn't take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And when twenty twenty five, when there are a lot
of people out there that are on edge, I see
nowadays you got to you gotta take every threat as
a serious threat.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
And that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's really really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And I think there's.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Got to be a special place for anyone that threatens
somebody like that, threatens to harm someone's family over social media.
We have enough technology to find out where it's coming
from and who did that, and there should be no
tolerance policy on anyone that does something like that, and
(42:28):
they need to be under the jail, under the jail
or even making any kind of threat like that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
As we continue and count down to Game one of
the Dodgers and Yanks. Tonight, when we come back out
to the stadium, we'll go and join David Vassa
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