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May 8, 2025 • 48 mins
The Dodgers took 2 of 3 in Miami and with all of their pitching issues (like Evan Phillips going on the IL), could they rush Ohtani back onto the mound earlier than expected? Matthew Stafford took less money to stay with the Rams (plus theyre doing minicamp in Hawaii). Also, a man is suing the NFL for $100 million because Shedeur Sanders dropped in the draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, let's go to work.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fred Rogan Rodney Pete out in five seventy LA Sports
two hours for us today. Because the Dodgers have now
moved west there in Arizona, they'll be taking on the
Diamondbacks after taking care of business in Miami. They took
two of three. So here's my problem, Rodney. I watched
yesterday's game. Yeah, and first, you want the Dodgers to win. Yes,

(00:23):
you always wanted to be a good game, but you
want them to win. But when they are just destroying
people like that, it kind of took the joy out
of it for me yesterday. And I know that makes
little sense, but I mean it was just such a
pounding that I'm like, Okay, they're supposed to beat Miami.
They lost the day before, but they're supposed to beat

(00:44):
Miami and they did. So they took two or three
down in Florida. That'll get you right. Whatever ails you,
that'll get you right. And they were doing all right
before they got there. So anyway, that's it for the
Miami series.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I mean, I somewhat hear what you're saying about
the joy and you want to see competitive game, although
you want to see the Dodgers win.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
But it was Yeah, it wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
If you're a Marlins fan, you got to be looking up, going, man, man,
where do we go?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Where do we go from here?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
And there are a handful of teams out there, right,
you know, the White Sox, the Rockies, the Marlins. That
is just as you said several years ago, Fred, just
no hope, no hope, and their only excitement there is
when a big time team comes to town, like the Dodgers,
and then people can go to the games.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I know a lot of people in Florida live in
the Miami and Fort Lauderdale area, and for some reason,
everybody thinks that because of my connection with the Dodgers,
I just get a boatload of tickets for whatever. I
got so many calls and emails, But it was just
indicative of the people have never gone to a Marlins game.
But the fact that Otani's here, Mookie Bets and Freddie

(02:02):
Freeman's on the Dodgers and the Dodgers are coming to town,
everybody wants to go. So half that crowd was Dodger fans, right.
But listen, you ought to take some credit though, Fred,
You had to take some credit for yesterday. Well, because
you called out James outman, You called him out, You
called him out. He said, it's now or never, and

(02:25):
you better come through. This may be the last hurrah.
And the young man stepped up and hit a three
run home run Fred dead center field.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I was so. I was rooting for him. I mean,
I don't know about you. I was sitting there and say,
come on, come on, James, come on. And then when
he hit the home run, I was so.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was like a playoff game for me as a
happy I was for him hitting that home run.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Fred, it was great. But you did it. You called
him out. He heard you. He said, take that, Fred Rogan,
take that.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So anyway, I watched that past before that and I thought, well,
all right, this will be the final game.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
He'll be up here. I did. I'm watching him during
the game.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I said, well, okay, they'll just send him back to OKAC.
He won't even make the flight. And when he hit
the home run, you know. And and it's when we
asked Dave Roberts when they won the World Series the
first go round, were you more excited or relieved? And
he said, I was relieved for James. Outman, that had

(03:23):
to be the ultimate sigh of relief right there. Oh yeah,
he has survived to go another day. He's got to
perform this time out. And I was thrilled to see
him hit it as well, and watching him round the bases,
I thought he was relieved. And when he got into
the dugout, everybody was so kind to him and excited

(03:45):
for him, and I think they all kind of love
I love that too. Yeah, I think everybody kind of
felt it. It's like now or never.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, And you know, I mean when you're in the
clubhouse and you're in that locker room and players, no players,
no guy that are on the bubble, guys that you know,
on the verge of staying or going or being cut.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I remember there was.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Always those those third and fourth preseason games when I
was playing, and guys that were on that bubble, and
you were just like.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Man, he's gotta have a good game today.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Man, he's got to have a good one today, otherwise
they're gonna gonna release them. And when they did, you
were just you were so happy for him because you
work with those guys all you know, all spring training,
they've been with them, and you know the grind that
you go through before the season starts, and nobody knows
for sure how your season's gonna start, because there's been
several guys that have started fast and kept it going,

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or start fast and then peter out in the middle
and then pick it up again, or start slow and
then and get going. But as a veteran, Freddie Freeman
can afford to do that, Mookie Betts can afford to
do that, Otani can afford to.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do all that.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
James Outman can't. He can't have multiple bad days in
a row. He's gotta he's got to do something that's
gonna catch your eye every time he goes out.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
In a series. Yeah, he's put himself in that position.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah he has, He really has. And that's unfortunate, Becau.
That's putting a lot of pressure on yourself. But that's
the reality, and that's what it is. Is he's got
to do something that he's going to catch. Dave Roberts
in the staff's eye say, we got to keep him around.
We got to keep him around.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So you knew as a player when somebody was very
close to being done. You knew when they were on
the bubble. Did they know they were on the bubble.
Does James out To think he's on the bubble or
do people around him know he is? I think both.
I think as a player, you said, there's some guy.
Don't get me wrong, there's some guys that are.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Living in Cloud nine that think that they should be
starting in their their thing.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know, bring your playbook, you're getting cut.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
But but no, I think that James Outman knows the
fact that he's been up and down so many times,
you know, and it didn't really stick. He got you know,
had the success early as a rookie and then got
sent down and and and could not recover. And then
he's watching guys like Paz have success, right, and then

(06:11):
bringing in Tommy Edman who can play you know, centerfield
as well. So you start to look at your situation going,
there's not enough spots for me. They's not gonna be
you know, where's where's where's my playing time? Where's my room?
And you know, keeping Chris Taylor on the team, all
that keyk is around, so you start to look at it.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
So most guys do understand.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
That hey, I gotta I gotta pick it up or
I'm I'm gonna be out here I'm on the bubble,
and some guys can thrive in that situation. Some guys
just go into the tank because they do put too
much pressure on themselves, which is which is not not
an easy thing, because it's hard. It's human nature to go.
My livelihood's on the line. Now, how do I go

(06:50):
step in the box and relax and just go go,
think about nothing but hitting when you're thinking about Damn,
I'm over two already.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Damn I cannot go ero for three. I cannot. I
guarantee you. In that game before where he struck.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Out three times that last at bat, I'm sure he
was on pins and needles and just didn't know what
to think about.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And it's mine. He's thinking, just don't strike out again,
don't strake out, don't strike out. He struck out again.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, you know you mentioned piz So Pies wouldn't even
be here if it wasn't for Outman, right, because the
job was James Outfins, that was his job. But he
started to struggle. He gave pie Haz a chance. They
had brought him up, and now look at pie Haz.
See pi Haz did something that Outman was unable to do.

(07:41):
Autman comes up, has success, Pitchers adjust to him. Okay,
Outman now is more realistic, right, He's okay, He's not great.
Autman couldn't make that adjustment again, and that's what cost him.
Look at Piz Piez came up, hit the ball well,
pictures adjusted all of a sudden, Pie has wasn't hitting

(08:03):
quite as well. But Pi has adjusted and he's got
the job. He's only here because of Outman, because that
job was James Outman's Rodney and as it was, he
lost it.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
The pie has no you're right, I mean, if you
remember when he came up, because he did. He came
up and it was it was a lot to talk
about Outman. Oh they got their their next center fielder,
their next guy, you know. And but then went that
long struggles and when you give another player an opportunity
like that a.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Lot of times.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
You know what's the story of the Wally Pip right,
you know, Louke Gerritt Wally Pip That you give another
one an opportunity and he takes advantage of it, which
pie has is done. It's hard to get it back
because now they don't look at they don't look at
them to the same, right, that Pie has his Pie

(08:57):
has is up here and Outman's still trying to climb
where they feel. I think they feel now they've got
a guy and Pie has it that can play here
a long time.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Piz is a big leaguer. Now, yeah, he's not a
guy that could go back down. Well, anything could happen,
but in their mind, he is a member of the team.
He is on the roster. He is a big leaguer.
He's a big leaguer as much as Chris Taylor is
on this team. He's here, Yeah, he's here. He would
have to do something incredibly awful to be sent back down.

(09:26):
He's He's a regular roster guy, where Autman has become
the floater.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right then we used to say something things like this
about Gavin Lux, Right, Gavin Lucks a big prospect coming up,
and you know, showed those sides and they believed in
Gavin Lux. I mean, like, I don't I can't remember
the last person they believed in more than Gavin Lux.

(09:53):
It got the opportunities like Gavin Lux did. They really
felt that he was going to be a superstar and struggled. Man,
he struggled it. Maybe he struggled not only at the plate,
but he struggled in the field. Supposed to be a yeah,
it was. It was his specialty, his defense, and he
got the yips, couldn't throw the ball across the diamond.
Yet they stuck with him and and he you know,

(10:15):
he came up big last year for them in the
World Series and and they're in the playoffs. So, man,
you just never know what about Miguel Vargas. Remember they
had a lot of high hopes for him. Oh, he's
supposed to be a star. Yeah, and then they struggled
at the plate and couldn't hit the big league pitching
when he got up here. And man, they showed that member,
they showed that shot of him, and they traded him
to White scot to the White Sox and the dugout.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Who can forget that, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
But see with the Dodgers, here's another thing. And it's
interesting because the Dodgers were very patient. They yeah, they
are really patient with players. But because of the players
they have, they don't have to be as patient as
somebody else. For example, Vargas and the White Sox. Oh,
they can sit here with him struggling all year because
he was highly evaluated when he came into the big leagues,

(11:08):
so they can wait for him to develop. The Dodgers
will sit with you, but they don't have to sit
with you forever. And that's what happened to Bargains.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, they feel like they've got somebody close that's that's
right there in the farm system, and you're not performing.
They know because they're they're so deep in their farm system.
They got the next guy ready to go. Yeah, you know,
and it's it's tough man. You get your opportunity. Remember

(11:41):
Adrian Gonzalaz got hurt and Cody Bellager that's how he
got up here.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Remember he caught up here.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Adrian got hurt, and Cody came in and played first
base and went off and next thing you know, he's
Rookie of the Year and then he's the he's the
MVP and and just took off from there. So it's
you know, when you do get those opportunities and you
make the right point, because a lot of times you can,
you can have a good start, but it's when they

(12:09):
see you a second and third time that's it. You know,
how do you adjust after they've seen you? Can you adjust?
And a lot of guys can a lot of guys.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Can't, so Dylan Hernandez wrote, tell me what you think
with all the pitching struggles, by the way, Clayton Kershaw
is supposed to be back. I think May eighteenth. Now,
if he is back May eighteenth, that's well ahead of
schedule and will be highly welcomed. Just think about when
the season started and the number of starters they had.
You were thinking, Kershaw, you know we'll see in August.

(12:40):
Just take it nice and easy, right, you know your
off days got a little sun by the pool. There's
no rush all of a sudden. He'll be back May eighteenth.
That's well before they thought he would be back. But
they need him to be back. And Dylan Hernandez wrote,
when you look at Otani and Otani is a luxury,
but you start to wonder, oh no, given the injuries,

(13:03):
could he be a necessity as a pitcher going in
he was a luxury. Everybody wants to see him pitch.
Everybody here wants to see him pitch. I mean that's
the ticket. If he's pitching in a game, you know
that place will be sold out and tickets will be
jacked up. You know that on the secondary market because
you want to see him pitch, but you're thinking, Wow,
there's no rush for him either. Let's get him in

(13:24):
late July. Just let him work his stuff out. We'll
put him in. How much is he going to have
to pitch? We've got this enormous rotation, all of these guys.
Suddenly you don't have all these guys. And now Dylan
Hernancez is saying, wait a minute, this isn't a luxury.
This could be a necessity. I don't feel it's a
necessity yet, do you, Rodney?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, No, I don't, and I I don't know if
it ever will, be be honest with you. You know,
maybe they'll come a point years from nowhere. He's not
necessarily a starter, but he you know, it comes out
of the bullpen from time to time. I don't know,
But I don't think because of its value at the plate.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And leading off of this team. I don't know if
he ever becomes.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
A necessity because it's he's too valuable on offense. And
if he does. But if you are put into that situation,
given where they are, now.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Do you do it? Do you push it out there?
Pushing him out there.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Knowing that we're shorthanded we're waiting for our guys to
get back.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
But in the meantime, we've got Otani can go.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Instead of going every what six six man rotation or
six days or whatever it's off, he's going, you know,
every five and you're putting him out there. You're trotting
him out there, and he's getting a lot of inning then,
and he looks spectacular when he's doing it, So you
get you get starry eyed every time you see him pitch,

(15:03):
and then you go, oh, yeah, this is a big series.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
We got to have him in there for this series.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think he's just a different animal where they it
doesn't matter what it's going like or what the necessity
is they are, they're not going to push him out there.
And I think on Kershaw, I think that I think
that he probably has been ready to go, be honest
with you, and they just threw it out there as
the luxury to say, Okay, we can get him going

(15:30):
in June or sometime this summer. But given where the
Dodgers are with their pitching staff and the injuries, they
moved it up. But I think he's been ready to go.
I really do. I think he's been ready. I think
he's been healthy. He's just been waiting, and now is
the opportune time where they actually now that's a necessity.
I think they can use him as a necessity. We

(15:51):
gotta have Kershaw because we're so banged up. He becomes
a necessity.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
See, I don't think you rush o' chiny. I'm with
you one hundred percent. I am with you. Do do
not get crazy here. Oh my god, we need pitching.
Good old Tony's sitting over here. Let's put him in.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
There's a very strict plan for him when he's gonna pitch,
when he'll be ready to pitch. You don't want to
rush that Kershaw if he is ready. To put him
out there. Here's my concern this goal around. It was
a foot injury. It was the toe. It was a foot,
not his arm, not his back. It's like, in the
back of my mind, I'm thinking to myself, let's not

(16:32):
even risk his arm or his back until we have to. Now,
maybe this is great, Maybe he's a bionic man and
this year. Once he gets out there, it's full speed ahead.
But I just don't want to see them put him
out there. His foot's fine, and then you know, three
weeks later, there's his back.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, because you know what happens. You know, when you
have especially as you get older, you have other injuries,
especially if you have lower body injuries, you start compensating
for it. You start your techniques and your mechanics start
compensating for that toe or that foot, and you start
throwing a different way. And over time you start doing

(17:10):
something different and your body doesn't recover like it used to,
and all of a sudden, you're right, it goes to back, right,
and there's the arm.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
They don't need that. That's the one thing they don't need.
I mean, this is difficult now, but nobody thought it
would be simple. And they're piecing it together and moving forward.
They're winning well more than they're losing. And again, remember
last year, be hot when you need to be hot,
be healthy when you need to be healthy. They weren't
even healthy pigeon wise last year. But be hot when

(17:41):
you need to be hot, and you want to win
in May, you want to be hot in September. So
I'm still of the opinion, don't push anything, don't rush anybody,
just keep getting through it until you have enough guys back.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, No, absolutely, and and you know they've already the
bullpen's already been taxed, right, they're already throwing more innings
than any other team in baseball.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is now the time?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I know you got some some feelings right now that
you start pushing the starters to go deeper. But now
you've got guys coming back in, like Kershaw's coming back in.
You're not going to have him go six seven innings
in his first couple starts throwing a hundred pitches.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But that's what they need.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean, you notice the other day they let they
let Rokie stay out there. You know, they wanted him
to get his first win, yes, but they let him.
They let him go. They wanted him to be deep,
and they let him go. So I think they're going
to continue to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So now a guy's going to file a lawsuit. Maybe
what should happen is the guy that's filing the lawsuit
he should be put in jail.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh wow, come all right, hey, come on, I used
to make you get up on a dance floor, Ronnie
right there, and I used to make it up.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Rodney Pete Fred Rogan on a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Come on, now, hey, we're giving away a two hundred
and fifty dollars Burke Williams gift card.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
That's right between now and two o'clock. Stay with us.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You want to hook up that person that you love,
give him something special for Mother's Day? We got I
mean you've talked about going in there for massages for
years at Burke Williams Rodney.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, I love Burke Williams. I go in there and
spent a half a day at Burke Williams. I never leave.
They go in, they come see me in the morning,
and they come back in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm still in the jacuzzi. Hey, what do you doing?
You're still here?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, I gotta get a manny petty. I gotta get
my massage. Oh, there's a face show I have at three.
Oh man, I seriously can go spend all day at
Burke Williams.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
How many men do you think at manicures and pedicures? Oh?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I would say fifteen percent of the male population gets
many manicures and pedicures.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
As they call them, mandy petties.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Many petties, Yeah, I would say, I mean probably more
now than it was twenty years ago. I think men
are taking more care of themselves and more about hygiene
and aesthetics and things like that. You know, if you
asked me that thirty years ago, I would say five percent.
It's probably up to twenty percent now. I think maybe
fifteen to twenty percent. Men go get them.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, it's like six nine, eight, seven seventy. Kevin, don't
shake your head.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's not Friday. Fred.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I want to know. I want to know. I just
want to know. I'm sorry, Yes, it came up. Have
you ever had many petty, Fred?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Have you ever gone in and scheduled outside of outside
of being on vacation somewhere where you just go to
the spa and you do your thing, like during the
regular work schedule week day when you've got time off.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Have you ever scheduled a manicure and a pedicure?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So I don't really schedule them, excuse me, your wife
or your wife or your daughter has no no. I
mean I might be walking by a place and go,
you know what, maybe I'll just jump in here real
quick and grab it. I might do that.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, So you're a spontaneous manny petty guy, I'm a
many petty.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't know why the term drives me crazy, a
many petty guy. But yeah, I have done that, absolutely,
but not often. I've not done it often, and I
think there was a stigma associated with it for many
years for men, like I'm not doing that, right, right, right,
I'm not doing that. No, no, no, no no. But

(21:38):
you can occasionally see men in there, all right. So
we're giving that gift card away here between now and
two o'clock. By the way, you can do whatever you want.
You get a massage there, you get a many petty
whatever you want at Burke Williams. But ideally, if you
win it, you will give it to somebody and you
will not just use it. For example, if you're married
and you win it, you should give it to your
wife or your mom for Mother's Day. You do not

(22:03):
win it and then take it yourself. That kind of
defeats the purpose of the Mother's Day Burke Williams promotion.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Your wife says, where we going for brunch? I'm not sure,
but I'm going to Burke Williams. I got some treatment
scaled today. Yeah, mom, talk about brunch. I might be
a little late.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'll meet you, Yeah, I'll meet you there for dessert. Mama.
I got this. I got this, Mandy Petty, ed Burke Williams.
I could have given it to you, but I kept
it for myself. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, Okay, So now we know a little bit about
Matthew Stafford's contract Rams fans, and there was a question
would he come back, wouldn't he come back? Seems to
have been sorted out. It's essentially a guaranteed one year
deal for forty four million dollars and the Rams can
cut him or trade him in the off season before
March fifth and not be on the hook for any
of his salary.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Stafford agreed to this deal instead of a guaranteed ninety
million two year deal with the Raiders of the Giants,
So when you look at it, he took less to
stay here, right, because they're gonna had two years?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
What was it? What was the deal? Two years with
the Giants or Jets or wherever? Two years ninety million
dollars or forty five a year. So this essence is
forty four this year, and what is he supposed to
make next year?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Forty if they sign him ever keep them right?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, I'm like that, yeah, yeah, like eighty four, eighty five,
whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
But they don't have to.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
They have the out by March first or March fifth,
March fifth, March fifth, they can cut him, or release
and or trade him.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
No, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
He got to forty four this year and barring like
Matthew Stafford can still play at a high He's still
top five quarterback in the league.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
To me, he can still play. He can still sling it.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Remember the Rams were at the eighteen yard line going
in in Philadelphia and it's snow to go to the
NFC championship game, and this is after Sekwon Barkley ran
for eight million yards against him too, and they still
had a chance to win at the end. Remember the

(24:08):
catch puk Nicoua made down the sideline put him in
a position to go win that game. He can still play.
So so barring him having a disastrous season next year,
he's gonna get the second year of that deal, you know,
which would put him almost in line of what he
would have made going to the Giants or somewhere else.

(24:30):
So I'm not worried about that. And plus, you know,
all these things go, he and he and McVeigh and
less need you know, yeah, less need They I think
they have a wink wink.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
This is this is something that we.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
You know, we're gonna keep you for two years now,
We're not gonna we're not gonna get rid of you,
but we got a structure it this way, so I
you know, because there could be they got to leave
it out just because it could be a disaster. He
takes a one eighty turn and just can't run, or
he can't stay healthy or whatever it may be, then
they got to make a decision. But barring that, he's

(25:05):
going to be here for another at least another two
years and plus for him, why would I want to
do that? Rams are right there. They're building to win
right now. I mean, they know they've got their quarterback.
They're doing things to win right now. They were close
last year when a lot of people didn't believe that
they would get as far as they did, and because
everybody thought, oh it's to forty nine ers forty nine ers,

(25:26):
and the Rams came up and were the better team.
And why would I want to go to the Giants
where I'm going to get killed in New York. I'm
going to get beat up because the offensive line is
terrible and they're in a somewhat rebuilding stage.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't want to do that. So I get it.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Sometimes all money is not good money, as they say
when you gamble for it, all money's not good money.
And so he was very, very smart. I want to
be in sunny southern California. I got my nice crib
here and kickback on the beach. I know that I'm
going to be predected. I've got a great offensive coach,
and we're close. We're close to being a super Bowl team.

(26:10):
In fact, I think a lot of people have predicted
him that definitely win the division.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
That wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah, not one bit.
Here's the thing, So if he goes to the Giants
are the Raiders. If you think back a couple of
years ago when he became the human pez Dispenser, when
he was hit so hard he was almost snapped in half,
he knows what it's like to get hit. And in
his years in Detroit, yeah, yeah, he was broadsided a

(26:36):
number of times, he was punished. He knows what that's like.
He knows that feeling. And there's no guarantee. Well, there's
no guarantee in anything. But if you go to the
Giants or the Raiders, the health knows if all of
a sudden, that offensive line on either team becomes a
sieve and now you are running for your life at
his age, I think that also factored into this, like, sure,

(27:00):
I can make a little more money, but who's gonna
protect me?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And where's my best chance to win? Correct? Correct? You know.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And it's not like this is his you know, his
first big deal. He's he's you know, he's probably got
three four hundred million dollars in the bank over his career.
You know, he's been in the league with fifteen years
almost now or around that. He's signed two or three
big contracts, so, you know, off the field stuff. So
it's not like an extra ten million dollars is going

(27:31):
to do something for him that not having it is
not gonna do. I would rather have the peace of
mind of knowing what I got, something that's familiar, Knowing
I got a head coach that's gonna protect me, Knowing
I got an offensive line that's gonna protect me.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I'm staying right here.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
One of the note on the Rams, I think this
is really interesting. It shows how they do business. If
you look at the Dodger model, the Dodgers control Japan.
The Dodgers control the country of Japan. They probably have
Korea too. Oh yeah, anywhere over there, that's the Dodgers,

(28:09):
and that means money. That's just good smart business. Now,
when the Dodgers signed Otani, obviously that was a huge thing.
Y'a'm a mooto and Sazaki. Now, but they control that
part of the world, and that's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm I'm just waiting for the next tie baseball player
so they can go play in Bangkok. You know, that's
that's that's coming next, you know, control to extrol everything.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Bangkok makes a hard man, humble Rodney. You don't forget that.
Never forget that.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh does it? Ever?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I could tell you some stories. How much time we got? No,
I'm kidding. Oh man, oh man, oh man.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, you know you go through that door. Wait have
you been to Thailand? Oh yeah, Oh I've never been.
Oh good? Oh yeah, tell a story.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, you know you go. And this was this was
my wife's doing, Holly. She said, you know, we got
to go to you know what you hear about in Thailand?
Some of these little shows right right now, there are
shows not quite Broadway shows, red, but they're like you know,
off Off Off, Off, Burlesque, Off Burless's show shows. Yes

(29:20):
they are, yes they are. So we gotta go. We're
in Thailand. We gotta go. That's what people do, never
go alone. But she wanted to go, so we went.
And then you go. You walk down and we're staying
at a pretty nice hotel, right, we stayed at four
seasons there, and so we go, okay, we want to
go to the something safe where you know it's going

(29:42):
to be good. So you know, you talk to the people,
don't tell and say okay, and go down here this street.
They we have the car take you. They drop you
right there. Okay, then you go in and here, so
the car drops us off. We walked like fifty feet
down an alley all right to a storefront that looks
like a small little restaurant. Sure, you know, you go

(30:02):
in the restaurant. There are people eating tables in the restaurant,
and we say, we're here for X, Y Z, and
where do we go? We thought this was it and
so no, yeah, follow me. You go through the door
that looks like the kitchen, and you go past the
kitchen and you go down some stairs and you go
open up the door down the stairs and it's a
big room, like a plush, nice room, like a speakeasy.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Right, it's like a big room.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And Fred, when I tell you, my eyes were wide open. Fred,
what I tell you The talent on some of the
women that were performing on stage was incredible, incredible.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm talking. How do I put this? Fred? Yeah, you
know you've been to a circus where you seeing.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
The knife thrower and he's got a woman that's on
a circles. He's been there and he's hitting the popping
the balloons around the woman and sure doing that. You've
seen that, right, Yeah, same kind of thing. No woman's
spinning around, but there are balloons in the audience, Okay.
That They had one person on one side of the
room and another person on the other side of the room,

(31:23):
and they would let the balloon go and one of
the young ladies on stage would had a dart and
would pop the balloon out of the air.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh see, Now that's impressive. I mean from to hold
it fifteen feet away, to hold a dart in your
hand like that.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Not your hand, Pritt, not your hand. I mean it's
scary to hold a dart in your teeth like that.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I mean you know they tape it to your wrists.
I mean that's yeah. No, let's just say it was it.
How about that? Oh they had a dart in private?
Yeah yeah, yeah, and let it go, let it go
from private. Well that's white the skill.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
One time, so and and and then there was a
then there's more. Then there was a ping pong show, Fred.
It was a ping pong show. We didn't like ping pong.
Who doesn't like ping pong? You know, there were no
there was.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
No paddles, but uh, I mean they were actually hitting
the ball hands.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
It was a volley.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It was a volley again, it was it was more
private than that Red. And So we're sitting there and
one of the ping pong's balls kind of goes askew
and comes right by our table.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well and and you're listen, you've had experience in catching
balls like that in Japan. So I am a gentleman.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
So I start to lean over and pick up one
of the ping pongs that rolled by our table.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Holly grabbed me by.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
The throat and said, you picked that ball up, you're
gonna come back with a nub. You don't know where
that ping pong ball. Yeah, and she was dead serious. Yeah, yeah,
dead serious. I I it was, Yeah, it was incredible.

(33:28):
It was one of those you gotta go once, you
gotta go see it.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Did people? Oh yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, a lot, you know, and there were Americans, Europeans
were mainly the audience that was that was in there.
But yeah, a lot of applause, a lot of applause,
and you walked out with your mouth open, going, oh
my god, what did I just see? And then you
gotta go take three four showers just yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah. They serve drinks and everything.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're feeling good in there?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Anybody everybody ever call anybody from the audience.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. They called people from the audience.
Of course I was not allowed to go up on stage,
but they do. They called people on stage the Hope
props and you know, the the amount of things that
were flying across the room with no hands and no feet,
it was pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, well, it's good you saw that.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, yes, yes, muscle control, I guess is what they
call it.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Is right, these people work out anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
What I was going to say is the rams now
very much like that's all right, let's just mention this
before we're going to break.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
You know, so we talked about Stafford and I was
explaining the Dodgers and how they control that part of
the world.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The Rams have now been awarded.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
The rights marketing wise to Australia, China, Japan, South Korea, Mexico,
New Zealand, and United Arab Emirates. And what the Rams
are going to do is they're going to have a
little mini camp in Honolulu. They're gonna have a little
mini camp in Honolulu here. I think it's Malue, friend,
I think it's Malay.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's gonna help with the Remember the fires that were
over there in Mali, so a lot of it's going
to go to that. But yeah, no, that's yeah. You know,
both those are and we talk about this over years.
Both the Rams and the Dodgers do it absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
They get it.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
When things went bad here, they were the first risk.
Remember a thousand Oaks and the problems that they had
and that that devastation tragedy. They were the Rams were
the first ones. And you know, the fires and Rams
were always a part of it. And and and so
they the Dodgers in the Rams, they they hundred percent
get it, and it doesn't surprise me that they are

(35:39):
going global like this.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm glad we're having an attorney on next to talk
about this man that should be put in jail for
filing the suit.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh yes, oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
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Speaker 1 (36:56):
All Right and No.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
From the Court to the court Room with Jacob em Rani.
All Right, our weekly chats, well, our good friend Jacob
em Roani and Jacob.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I'm doing wonderful.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
How are you guys doing well?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Jacob good, We're good. Get into a fan, ask him.
I got him dying to hear what he has to say. Okay,
so here's the dilemma. And since you are a legal
scholar and America's attorney, perhaps you will have some insight.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Are you ready? I am ready? All right?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
An an unidentified fan in Georgia who used the pseudonym
John Doe, has filed a lawsuit against the NFL for
one hundred million dollars in punitive damages over the emotional
distress and trauma that was inflicted on him when Shador
Sanders fell to the fifth round of the draft. The

(37:49):
fan described himself in the complaint as a dedicated fan
of Colorado football. My question to you is this should
demand that filed the lawsuit because he is wasting everyone's
time be thrown in jail Jacob, Yes?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Or no? Hmm No, that's kind of a buzzkill.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Come on, I mean, come on, you know, has he
wasted everyone's time? Yes? But do we also think that
you know, all the media around the fact that he
was not getting picked and everything was being thinked in
a lot of people who may have not thought that
he should have been picked. You know, three, four or
five may feel opposite. This is America. You know, you

(38:34):
have a chance not to just file a lawsuit against anybody,
and you can be sure that they're going to immediately
write him a letter and they're going to let him
in his attorney know that if this lawsuit is not
immediately dropped, that they will come after him for every
cent that they're going to have to spend in order
to fight it. So this will go away really quickly.

(38:57):
But remember people do things to get attention. And you know,
all the three or four days of the draft was
all about Shadior Sanders and it brought you know, as
tough as it may have been for him to fall,
which is sad that he felt so much, it brought
a lot of drama to the draft, and they brought viewership,

(39:19):
It brought alerts, It brought you know, radio stations and
talk shows you know like ours, and you know talking
about it. So you know, sports has become entertainment and
people want to be part of it.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was the most watched
second day of the draft ever since they televised. I'm
the ratings wise, it was the most watched second day
because normally people watch the first round, right, they watched
that Thursday night, then the people don't watch next day.
But but Jacob is that the turrent is that they

(39:56):
will go after this guy for court costs and whatever
it comes the state to fight this thing.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
We're going to put it all on you when you
lose his case.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Absolutely. I mean, you know that this type of a
lawsuit is all about getting pressed and you know, to
be talked about. You know, these lawsuits are you know,
I wouldn't even put the word nuisance on it because
I mean, you know, new sence sometimes is the money
shake down, but you know this is just to get press,
you know, to get clicks. And the moment you know

(40:28):
they write him a strong letter, both him and his attorney,
I would think are going to really think twice about
this and you know walk away. But it's just but
it is incredible, and I say this all the time
that you know, in our country, as great as our
legal system is, anybody you know who's got six hundred
bucks can file a lawsuit against anyone for any reason

(40:50):
and uh, you know, get a lawsuit going. Now, how
far it's going to go it's a different story. But
you know when somebody gets sued, they always you know,
freak out so quickly. And I say, anyone can sue
anybody without any reason. And you know there's another example.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Of it, all right, Jacob.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
If in fact, the Lakers have a chance to get Yannis,
but you've got to basically gut the team, so you know,
Austin Reeves has gone, really has gone. Whoever else is gone,
You've got Yannis, Luca and Lebron and whoever else you
can fill in with.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Do you do that?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Listen? I think you know, when you get Yannis, you're
not just doing it for one year. You know, Lebron's
going to probably play another year and then you're going
to have you know, his salary portion that's going to
be available right now if you bring on y honest
and you have to fill the rest of the roster
with you know, minimums. And this is that the first

(41:46):
time I really truly believe that. You know, when we
watch the Lakers and the way they played, they did
a nice job during the season, but we always knew that,
you know, their big issue was going to be a
big or multiple bigs. And since you're going to be
counting on Luca to be the face of this organization.

(42:08):
You have to surround him with the type of people
that Luca needs in order to be successful, which are bigs. Now,
I don't necessarily feel like it has to be honest.
I think if you surround him with some bigs and
you have more talent, I think you're beginning to see
my You know, when you look at the Pacers, you know,
beating Cleveland twice, when you see the Knicks beating you know,

(42:33):
the Celtics twice and coming back from twenty down, I
feel like the NBA is going back to being more
of more of a team sport rather than just the superstar.
So you know, when I see Jannis wanting to come, Yeah,
if you can get him and not gut the team,
I would take him. But if you had to gut
your team, I wouldn't be such a big pro, you know,

(42:55):
I wouldn't be such a big proponent of it. Maybe
that's the easiest way to say it.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, what did you make of Jajay's comments after the
series and talking about we have to get into championship
shape and everybody knowing that he's talking directly to.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Luca, Well, listen.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I mean, I think they were talking directly to Luca,
but I think they were also talking about everybody else.
I mean, look, this was a repeat of the Denver
series that went on for the last two years before
this one. We had an opportunity to beat Denver in
every single game, and we would run out of gas

(43:38):
at the end. Now, is that because we're not in shape?
Is that because we don't have a deep bench. I
think that could be. I think that could be you know, debated.
But you know, Luca is excited to be here. Luca
is excited to be the future of this franchise, and
I think he's going to surprise all of us in

(43:59):
terms of you know, his over the summer. You know,
he's going to be playing in the Euros, and I
think he's going to come in and I think he's
going to grab you know, this organization and put on
it back. And I think we've got a lot of
great things ahead. So of course everyone's got to get
in shape, but I feel like you also have to fill,
you know, fill the roster with what they need. And

(44:22):
I think Rob and JJ and the organization are going
to do that this summer.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Jacob let me ask you one more legal question. Truck
accidents not everybody handles them. So if you are involved
in an accident with a truck, should you go to
somebody that has never done it before?

Speaker 4 (44:43):
You know, I think what's happening, especially here in California.
You know, ever since we started to you know, do
billboards years ago and commercials, you know, billboards and commercials
became so popular and you have so many people that
have them up now, and you have so many, you know,
people who advertise. And I think California were blessed with

(45:03):
having a lot of great attorneys. I have a lot
of great colleagues. But I think the one thing that's
not talked about enough is that you have to know
what you're doing above and beyond just handling a personal
injury case. And I think trucking accidents with technology, with AI,
with everything that is now being used, have become more
and more specialized. And you know, for example, we just

(45:26):
recently had a case where we have to go get
all of the you know, computer data. We have to
find out how long it took for the you know,
eighteen wheeler to stop. We have to get how fast
they were going. You know, there was so much data
that you can now get. I don't know if you
know this or not, but right now, these eighteen wheelers,

(45:47):
when they hit something or if they're involved in a crash,
the owner of the truck or the company will immediately
be notified that there was a crash, even if the
driver doesn't let them know. And all of that is
because the moment they find out that there's a crash,
they disburse the team to immediately go to the scene
and try to clean up the mess. And you know,

(46:09):
in our case, a police officer had come out to
the scene of this really bad accident, and the police officer,
you know, not to extract it, but they were not
really educated in truck accidents. So when they when the
truck drivers people got there and they said, are you
okay without with us moving the truck out of the

(46:31):
middle of the street. He actually thought he was doing
the right thing and he moved his truck out of,
you know, the middle of the street. And the moment
that they moved the truck, some of the data got
erased and we rather to do a lot of work
to get that data back. And it's not because the
police officer was trying to do something wrong. Just they
were not they're not educated enough to understand, and that's

(46:55):
just the you know, beginning of it. So I guess
what I want our listeners to just know is that
when they are involved in these type of very specialized accidents,
don't let anybody tell you that it's all, you know,
a vehicle hitting another vehicle and you're fine. It may be,
you know, two moving machinery hitting each other. But how
you have to investigate it and what kind of data

(47:18):
you can get in order to help your client is
obviously very important. And I think the more experienced attorneys
who've done that, we'll have more knowledge and we'll eventually
be able to do a better job. So you know,
be careful not to just go to anybody ask for
their you know, their experience in it. Some people even
ask us, after all these years, can you show me

(47:40):
what are some of the results you've gone in uber
accidents or in truck accidents. And we're more than happy
to do that because we keep track of all of
it and we show it to them, And I would
encourage everybody to do that with any attorney they go to.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Outstanding. All right, Jake, wo, you appreciate it great info
as always.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Thank you guys, Stay safe and having weekend. The weather
is amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Hey, don't miss Angel Cities Mother's Day match against the
Utah Royals tomorrow's Superhero Night. Get your tickets at angelcity
dot com. Listen to the game and HD on the
iHeartRadio app the keyword angel CITYFC. We've got that two
hundred and fifty dollars Burke Williams gift card to give away.
We'll do it in the one o'clock hour and when
we come back. Jack Harris at the Times is with

(48:24):
the Dodgers and he joins us.

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