May 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Jack Harris hops on to talk Dodgers as they get set to face the D-Backs. Fred finds a stat that shows just how terrible the Angels have been this season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney p On
five to seventy. LA Sports Dodgers out of Miami two
to three. Now they're in Arizona for the first to
four against the Diamondbacks. Oh, don't forget a two hundred
and fifty dollars Burke Williams gift card. Somebody is winning
that this hour. Okay, let's go to the Valley the
sun enjoying Jack Harris of the La Times. Jack, good
(00:21):
afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are we doing?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good? Jack?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
How are you doing? Do you like Phoenix?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Shannon?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Do you like going to Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm from Phoenix, so I do like coming to Sea.
I like it, least when it starts with a seven
am flight from Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh yeah, that's no good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh okay, Jack, I'm from Phoenix and so is free.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It look at that?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you even hot yet?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That I'm able to watch the ballpark today, it's a
good measure.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's definitely great other than you know, June through mid September.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Other than that, it's the beautiful place.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah that That first summer in California for me, it
was pretty eye opening weatherwise.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Did you did you go to Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did go to Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There you go, sun double. You know what I say,
O Devils, come on, let's go. It was a guy
when I played baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There's a guy in the stands at every Arizona State
baseball game. And that used to be I mean airs
on State Baseball back in the Jim Brock days and
Barry Bonds and Odo By McDowell and they had it rolling.
There's a guy in the stands and he had an
opera voice like he was on Broadway. But he would
get up like every inning or try to get them motivated,
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and he would do the good devils or whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, yes, and they would.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They would go and score five runs after he did that.
At the time, Barry Bonds hit the ball off my throat,
did he really?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
He did.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, I'm playing at scim playing at SC and I'm
a freshman, and I think Barry is a junior at
the time. And and so uh we had infield in
against Arizona State. This is a Dado field at SC
infield in and and and man left handed hitter. I'm
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second base. If I was third base, which I played later,
it'd been okay. But left hander second base enfield in
and Barry was a monster in college.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He was just he was dominated, and he had a
one hopper before I could even react. He had it
so hard it bounced off my throat. It bounced off
my throat and went to second base, where the short
stop picked it up and hadn't turned to double play.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's how hard he had.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I we were you the one to get back and
cover the bag.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I was not. I was not. I was looking for
my Adams out. That's where I.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Was, little, little five four to three double play fight.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh that's what it was. That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Man, Yeah, yeah, before I knew it, we had turned
the double player.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I was like, where'd the ball go?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And it bounced all the way to second base and
the short stuff picked it up and turned the double play.
But man, yeah, he was. He was a beast at
Arizona State. All right, Jack, that's tough. All right, here
we go, Jack. Evan Phillips on the il forearm discomfort,
Dave Roberts says, nothing serious. Should people be worried?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't think yet. Evan Phillips gave a pretty thorough
run down on what he had been feeling after the
game yesterday. You know, he said, you know, to him,
this might be something where obviously he started the season
on the injured list with a shoulder issue. Anytime you
ramp up like you know, you see injuries, especially you know,
more minor injuries early in the season. This guy's ramp
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up and that he just felt a little discomfort there.
He's very confident he'll be back when the fifteen days
are up, I think, as far as Dodger injury standards go,
which can sometimes be a moving target, I mean, that
was one of the more confident sounding set of answers
we've gotten. But it is another concern for a bullpen
that's missing Blake Tryning and has taken on a lot
of innings. So they're hopeful it's nothing bad, but it
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does leave them in an even trickier spot for the
next couple of weeks at least.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, Jack, I mean, what in the world. This is
what the Dodgers did this offseason. They went to kind
of insulate themselves from this happening because they felt that
we can't live with bullpen games like we did last year,
even though we won the World Series. We better go
out and bulke up our starting pitching and help our bullpen.
But now they find themselves. I don't know if it's
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a worse situation that they've been in the last couple
of years with all of the injuries, especially to the
pitching staff. I mean, what's on the horizon and in
your mind for the Dodgers going they get through this.
I know the guys are not out for the season,
but but man, are they fortunate that they're able to
have the type of schedule where they can play teams
like Miami and continue to get wins?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean I think when it comes to the
pitching in the short term, yes, this situation feels very
similar to some of the tough spots they've been in
the last couple of years. You know, they added a
lot of depth, but part of that depth was waiting
on guys like Tony Gonsolin and Clayton Kershaw to get
back and be healthy. And I certainly don't think they
were anticipating losing two of their top pitchers this early
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in the season, and so that's why they've been in
this spot where they're cycling through bullpen games, calling up
guys like Landon Knack and Bobby Miller to make spots
starts here and there, and why when coupled with you know,
some inconsistencies from guys like Roki Sasaki and Dustin May
and obviously glass Now had a couple of short starts
before he went on the il. That's why the bullpen
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has ended up taking on such a big workloads so
far this season. I think that the if you want
to be optimistic about it, it's that long term, I
think they're still in an okay spot, especially when it
comes to the rotation. Like you know, smell A. Glass
Now are going to get back to pitching in the
next probably month or two here. Whether they can stay
healthy the rest of the year is a question. But
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like you said, these aren't season ending things for now,
They're not structural problems, and so I think they are
still going to have kind of the depth of numbers,
you know, when you look at the big picture this season,
especially when Shoheokani comes back to pitching, which will probably
happen at some point closer to the second half. But yeah,
it is a little unsettling. I think if you're a
Dodger fan, that they went out and they added all
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these pictures this offseason, and they're, you know, a month
and a half into the season, back in a spot
where you are kind of wondering if they can hold up.
I think the bullpen's okay, Like, you still have Panter
Scott back there, you still have Kirby Ads, you have
guys you can trust. But you saw that game in
Miami the other night. They just had to put some
lower leverage guys in high leverage spots they're not designed
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to pitch in because they needed to give other guys rest.
And I think that's the kind of situation that they
are in danger of having repete itself, at least for
the next couple of weeks until they get a little healthier.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, Clayton Kershaw is coming to the rescue, jack.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, and that'll help. He's eligible to come off the
sixty dail on May eighteenth. It looks like, you know,
he's probably going to be ready to be activated that day.
And if I'm doing my pitching schedule math right, you
know that could be a day he starts on, or
at least some point right around then. And I think
the interesting thing with Kershaw is, you know, this injury
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is not to his arm. You know, there's a toe
surgery and a knee surgery in the off season.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
His arm is.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Probably as healthy as it's been at least since maybe
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. And I think that,
you know, as long as the velocity is there enough,
which it's been a little up and down during his
rehab stent, But the Dodgers are confident that, you know,
he's going to be in a place to be competitive.
Like I still think he's gonna execute pitches really well,
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and he's still gonna get out with his slider, and
there's still a chance he's gonna look, you know, kind
of similar to maybe the Clayton Kershaw we saw the
last couple of years, which was still a competitive guy
even with you know, lesser stuff compared earlier in his career,
and just having him back to help again round out
the rotation and eat innings will help. He's also closing
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in on three thousand strikeouts, So I think there is
a lot more excitement for Kershaw's return than maybe we
thought there was gonna be given, you know, kind of
where he seemed like he was gonna fit in on
the depth chart coming into the season.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Hey, hey, Jack, I know everybody's excited for Otani to
get on the mound. Is it gonna be a tricky
situation of how the Dodgers utilize him? Because you can
get enamored by how special a player he is by
being a pitcher and being as good as he is
at the plate. And given the fact that the Dodgers
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are dealing with some of these injuries, do they have
to be careful that they don't get so enamored that
they want to use him more often than they had
already planned.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. Well, I think part of the reason his process
or his pitching recovery has been slow played to this
point is because they're trying to be careful about that.
These injuries they've had so far this season serve as
a reminder that it's very possible that the Dodgers are
going to need Shoho Tani pitching well and pitching at
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a high level come the end of the season, and
as they ow into the playoffs. What they aren't going
to need from him is fifteen or twenty starts. You know,
even with the pitching struggles they've gone through recently, they
still want a lot of games. They know, they don't
need it to pitch a ton of innings this year,
so that's why, you know, they're just not rushing him
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at this point. If you look at his first Tommy John,
you know he came back that year or in two
thousand and twenty with the Angels, he wasn't pitching very well.
He suffered an arm injury, and his bat didn't look
very good that season. And I think that's one of
the things that Dodgers are trying to avoid, you know,
not overburdening him. So they're trying to thread this needle
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of let's give him time to slowly build his way up.
Let's try to schedule it so that he has enough
starts to get his legs under him as a pitcher,
and so we can see, you know, just where his
pitching is at coming off the second Tommy John surgery,
and hopefully we're in a place where by the end
of the season, you know, he's in a rhythm, he's
feeling good, we haven't put too many innings on his arm,
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and he can be an impact pitcher in the playoffs.
It's no guarantee it's all gonna work out that way.
You know, a second Tommy John is a tough thing
for pitchers to come back from, and very few have
come back and pitched well immediately. But the Dodgers are
hopeful that, you know, like everything else show Heyo, Tony does,
he does it at a different level, and they have
a lot of optimism that he's going to be a
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productive pitcher when they when he comes back. It's just
about trying to strike that balance between how much runway
would he need to get ready versus you know what
would be over taxing his arm unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Jack, how much fun is it to watch Kim play
what is on TV? You can't take your eyes off
the guy. Is it like that in person?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, it's a it's a very different dynamic. And we
saw it that, you know, as soon as he went
into that first game, or I guess the second game.
Is a pinch runner in Atlanta dealing second off a
guy that's tough to steal bases against the ryceel Iglesias,
you know, going to third on a dropped third strike
where the catcher's throwing it to first base. Like that's
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the kind of tool set that we just haven't really seen,
not just from any player on the Dodgers this year,
but even the last couple of years, somebody that can
impact the game with their speed in that way. And
his bat has looked, I think, better than most people
expected it to look, and definitely a big improvement from
where it was in spring training when he was just
getting over one by pitchers most at bats. You know,
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the Dodgers have worked with him on a swing change.
They've got his lower half more involved in it now,
so is a little more pop. And this is a
guy who in Korea always had good bats to ball skills.
He was a three h eight hitter over there, So
the question was going to be, you know, could he
adjust this swing to catch up with velocity, Could he
have a little bit of pop so that he's more
than just a slap hitter. And I think so far,
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you know, you've seen the makings of a guy who
is inevitably going to go through some growing pains and
some ups and downs, But even at this stage, for
at least a week, is able to hold his own
against big league pitching. And I think that's a really
encouraging sign for the Dodgers. You know, on top of
all the other tools he brings to the table.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Okay, So in that scenario and just knowing you know
from from being a former player, the only way you
get better is to play, right, And so do the
Dodgers look at his you know, these this series with
the with the Braves and with Miami and go we
got to get we got to keep this guy on
the field. We got to get him more reps. We
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got to keep him playing, We got to keep him
in the lineup. And does he stay and do they
keep him in lineup to get him more reps going
forward because as you mentioned, he becomes a tremendous weapon,
especially as they go into the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, they do want him to keep playing regularly, whether
that's at the big league level or at the minor
league level. When he initially came up, you know, it
was only supposed to be for a week until Tommy
Edmund came back, because you know, I think there was
still some question about, you know, was he really ready
for an extended runway, And they saw it as a
chance to get him into the big leagues, have him
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faced some big league pitching, kind of get his bearings
in a big league clubhouse, that sort of thing. But
with the way he's played so far, and then his
injury to Taoscar Hernandez, which is going to create an
opening in center field or second base, you know, both
positions the Tysan Kim plays. Suddenly there is a little
bit more of a pasthway for him to stay at
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the big league level and get a more extended run
of consistent playing time. The question is, you know, can
can he succeed over a more extended stretch up here?
It does look like he's going to probably get the
chance to do that, just depending on how long pay
Oscar is out and when exactly Tommy Edmond gets back.
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And he's been able to fill in well so far,
so you know, it'll depend on his performance. I still
think that, you know, if he starts to struggle, the
Dodgers won't be afraid to send him back down the
Triple A to keep working on things.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Again, their goal, like with so many of their players
this year, is to have him in a position where
he can get an impact player come the end of
the season. And I think the progress you've seen from
him so far is a pretty positive sign that you know,
there's there's a lot farther he can go between now
and then all.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right, Jack, appreciate it. Thanks for coming on. As always.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, I like the story time at the top those it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Jack, got it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:02):
Then?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, So I just
saw something, guys. I just read a stat It's about
the Angels. Can we just talk about that next week?
Come back, I just saw it. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
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Philip Bailey, Earth winning fire right on, Ronnie Pete, Fred
Rogan on a throwback Thursday. Ronnie, you coming with it today?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Come on, all right, good job Ronnie with that nice job.
Here's what I found during the break. I gotta tell
you guys this, and it involves the Angels, and it's
something you never think about. I'm just gonna read it
to you, all right, So we'll do it like that
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so everybody will be on the same page.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Last year, the offenses of Colorado and the White posted
two of the twelve worst walk to strike out ratios
in Major League history. Now, the Angels, who entered twenty
twenty five with hopes of finally being competitive again, are
making an early run at the all time mark. So
we understand from analytics and the way the Dodgers do things,
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this is very important. The Angels offense has accumulated eighty
one walks through the first thirty five games, the lowest
total of the Majors, their hitters have struck out in
eighty one games. I'm sorry, in thirty five games, three
hundred and thirty eight times. Why do you think they
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don't win? Ron Washington said, I don't know. Man. You
got guys that want to hit the ball out of
the park. What do you tell them? What do you
tell them? These guys want to hit the ball out
of the park. They think they can do them. What
do you tell them? Tell them?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How do you to manager one in Washington?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
How do you fix them? What do we do with
these guys.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's okay to hit a single. It's okay to hit
a double. I mean, it's it's okay to hit a
sacrifice fly. It's okay hit the ball to the right
side with a guy at third base in less than
two outs. It's okay to advance the runner. That's what
you tell him as a manager, don't you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well you would think you would tell him something, but
he's basically saying, Hey, I mean, we're working with these guys.
What do you want us to do. We got some
young guys that are still learning. We got some veterans
that think they can hit the ball out of the
Park every time. Hey, we're giving it our best shot here.
Do you understand why they're not very good?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
God, Lee, that's just that's just the mentality of the Angels, unfortunately.
It's just it's where they are. It's the reason they're
the Angels. And it doesn't matter. I mean, since like
at least and Kevin knows because Kevin was a Kevin
is an Angel fan.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Kevin is an Angel fan, and he knows.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
But since Mike Sosia has been there, you know, and
and and I don't want to get got rid of.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Jill Matt and I don't understand that part of it either.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But but it's it's it is almost like guys come
in there and it's like the status quo. Let's just
roll with it. We're gonna be okay, We're not gonna
be great. We're not gonna demand too much out of
our guys. We're not gonna we're not gonna strive for excellence.
It's just gonna be We're the second fiddle in town.
And it feels like they they kind of people accept it,
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including players, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm not saying that about Mike Trout, you know. And
but I think that he's kind of gotten numb to
being an angel now, whereas early on he was a
He's I mean, he still is a beast. He's a
beast and has been, but he's looking up going you know.
You know, I remember Little League, I remember high school.
You know it was winning was fun, Winning championships were
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was fun. And we're not doing that and we have
no shot. So I don't know what. It's just the culture.
We talk about that a lot. The culture's got to
change at some point, and I don't And the only
way it feels now to change that culture Fred is
changed ownership.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Kevin, what do you think is the longtime, long suffering
Angels fan?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Are you guys?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I've been on the record, Arte moreno Is saying that
he wasn't going to sell the team was one of
the worst days of my life as a sports fan, obviously,
because to you, they've had so many general managers over
the last even ten years, whether Tony Reagan's and all
these guys, Billy Epp, you name them.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So they've had a lot of good ones, Yeah, solid ones.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They've had guys just so much turnover from the general
manager position and has trickled down for the managerial position.
Joe Madden had a spat against Perrymnazzi and I believe
and that's why he left. He was like he wanted
to come down from the front office and tell him
how to manage. And Joe Madden was like, I was
here as a bitch coach, won World Series. I took
the Tampa Bay Rays who were struggling, and took them
to the World Series. I think I know what I'm doing.
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I'm not gonna listen to you with all due respect,
and then they said, with all due respect, get the helpout.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So that's Joe.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Mattin who's been one of the best managers in baseball
for the last year.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Title won World title with the Cup, with the Cups
they won it.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
So you make moves like that. That all all comes
from the very top from ARTI moreno. So everything that's happened,
it started out so well with Fred You remember when
he bought the team from Disney back in two thousand
and three, two thousand and four, yep, and signed Vlad
Guerrero and signed all these players and bart Cologne won
a cy Young and they had about a ten twelve
year run where they were one of the best organizations
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in all of baseball. But then, like you mentioned, like
you mentioned Fred, no investment in the infrastructure in the
minor leagues. And so after we're off when you were
signing all these guys to these big league contracts, the
Albert pooholzz and the Josh Hamilton's and those don't work out.
Now you have no reinforcements to call up and actually
help you. And it's just it took a while, but
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now it's starting to catch up to them, and there's
really just no way out because already doesn't want to
spend any money.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But he did spend some this year. He spent it
the wrong place again.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Well, Jorge Solaire and Kyle Hendricks and Kakuci and Don
the couch as you call him.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Fred, Wait what did Frick callc.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
These are all like reclamation, you know, one year, give
him a big contract and hope he can do something
kind of deals. What is that gonna get you nowhere?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
No, it doesn't. There's no plan for sustained success.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And the problem Fred too and Rodney is like, at
least that just bottom out, just like you know what,
we're terrible. We're gonna tell you that we're terrible. We're
just gonna try to rebuild this thing from the ground up.
I think, if you're honest fans, look, they've been so
bad for so long. You say, well, look you're trying
to kind of scrape the bottom of the barrel with
these free agents and try to say you're competing. I'd
rather just tell me, like, you know what, we're scraping everything.
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We're started from the ground floor. Work with us for
the next four or five years, where we build our
minor league system and will try to be competitive that way.
At least there's a plan. Right now, it's rudderless. There
is no plan. They have no idea what the hell
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I think the only way that happens is when he
sells the team. I think that otherwise, how is that
going to happen?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It won't.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It won't, And then you just have to wonder, Okay,
at what point is he going to tap out? Remember
he kept the team because he still has a love
for baseball. Actually no, he doesn't. He's killing it. I
love the game, Well, you're murdering it. Let it go,
you know, if you love it, set it free exactly,
let it go. And on the topic of the Angels
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the Ducks. You know, the Ducks are remodeling Honda Center.
I think they're spending a billion dollars and.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
That's the Sam Welly's out of their own pocket.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
By the way, Yeah, the sam Wallis are so cool.
The sam Wallis are just great. They really are. They're
the nicest people on the planet. I mean, they're hard,
they're incredibly generous, very kind and just wonderful, wonderful people,
and they've really, unlike what Arty has done, they have
integrated into Anaheim. So you know, the Ducks have been
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rebuilding for a while. They want to win, by the way,
they do want to win, but they've been rebuilding, and
they made a move now to get a coach. I
think they believe they're ready. They went and got Joel Quinnville.
And Joel Quinnville, of course, coach the Blues the Avalanche.
I think Kings fans remember all too well when he
was a coach of the Blackhawks and the Florida Panthers.
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That's a pretty big time signing. That is a big
time signing as their coach. So now maybe they believe
now is the time.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Right right, I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I'm just when you see that from another organization that's
in your city, in your town. Sure, and then you
see the other one it doesn't do the similar things.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's like for years with the Clippers and the Lakers,
Lakers would do everything right, and then you had Donald
Sterling with the Clippers. It's like, how how does this happen?
But I do listen along that line. I think that
the since they got to LA and been here a
couple of years, I think the Chargers in the Spanos
(25:22):
family have understood it's we got to do things differently
in LA market, and they've started to change. You know,
they got their franchise quarterback, they got their big time coach,
They're spending money. I think they are starting to get it,
and I think the charge is going to be good
for a while. They're going to be on the verge
of making the playoffs on a regular basis, I think
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with Harball and with Justin Herbert. But you can't be
in this town without having that kind of winning. I'm
going for it mentality. Otherwise you're you're going to get
run out of town or you'll be a pariah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Both are fair and to speak of the Chargers, look
when they came here. If we're to be honest, nobody
wanted them, right, I mean nobody wanted them, and everybody
wanted the Raiders. Nobody wanted the Chargers. There were thoughts
of Dean Spanos didn't have the money to even pull
this off, if we're being honest, right, I mean they're
on the radio station. iHeart didn't even have the money
(26:24):
and they ended up playing a dignity Hell Sports Park.
I mean it was. But you know something, they have
done a very good job they have of becoming part
of this community. They really have. And all of the
things that people said about the Spanos is they're here
to win. They are competitive. Yep, they're not just packing
(26:46):
it in. They went out and signed Harbaugh, they spent money.
People go to their games, and if we're to be fair,
at the beginning, you wouldn't even know the Chargers existed
because everybody was wearing the opposing team's jersey. It's not
like that any more. No, No, the Chargers do do
well when they're playing. And even I will say, you know,
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because you're right, it used to play they you know,
and they're in a tough division because they got to
play the Chiefs and the Raiders every year. And the Broncos,
who those fan bases, are as good as anyone, their
top five in the league. And so it was sea
of red when the Chiefs came to town. It was black
and silver when the Raiders came to town. And even with
the Broncos, their Broncos brought a lot of fans. But
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every single year more and more Charger fans were in
that stadium when those teams came. And they have done
a great job of like you said, be a part
of the community, and they are now part of LA.
I can say that the Chargers are now part of
LA I would agree with you. They have done that
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Speaker 3 (29:02):
Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
What I'm saying, Uh yeah. Mamoto goes for the Dodgers
tonight in Arizona. I got a good feeling about that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Rodney.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
He's the what is he He's the iron horse, He's
the iron man, He's the he's the ace of the staff.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Red.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
He's got a below I think he's got a below
one e r A right now, right accurate, and he's
he's the best in the in the business right now,
in the major leagues. I think it's zero point nine
zero or something like that. Uh, he's been incredible and
he's been durable, and look for him to go seven
innings tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, Diamondbacks haven't been killing anybody this year. Now, you
know they're been right there though. You know they're they're
looking they can strike. They got the staff. I think
Corbyn Burns is going tonight too, isn't he.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think they got the staff, pitching staff to do it,
and offensively, they got some weapons. The Diamondbacks will be
there down the stretch. Just trust me, they will be.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
There, yeah, very much. You know they know when they
need to get hot. Yeah, you just need to be
in the fight. And well coached by Tory Leavello, well
well coached Montclair Prep and UCLA.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yes, he is all right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So Petros some money or next we'll get out of here.
With the Dodgers starting, they'll lead you into the pregame show. Ronnie,
thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. As always. Rodney will wrap
up the week tomorrow, Yes, sir,
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five to seventy. LA Sports Dodgers out of Miami two
to three. Now they're in Arizona for the first to
four against the Diamondbacks. Oh, don't forget a two hundred
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that this hour. Okay, let's go to the Valley the
sun enjoying Jack Harris of the La Times. Jack, good
(00:21):
afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
How are we doing?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good? Jack?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
How are you doing? Do you like Phoenix?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Shannon?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Do you like going to Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm from Phoenix, so I do like coming to Sea.
I like it, least when it starts with a seven
am flight from Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh yeah, that's no good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh okay, Jack, I'm from Phoenix and so is free.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It look at that?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you even hot yet?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That I'm able to watch the ballpark today, it's a
good measure.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's definitely great other than you know, June through mid September.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Other than that, it's the beautiful place.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah that That first summer in California for me, it
was pretty eye opening weatherwise.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Did you did you go to Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did go to Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There you go, sun double. You know what I say,
O Devils, come on, let's go. It was a guy
when I played baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There's a guy in the stands at every Arizona State
baseball game. And that used to be I mean airs
on State Baseball back in the Jim Brock days and
Barry Bonds and Odo By McDowell and they had it rolling.
There's a guy in the stands and he had an
opera voice like he was on Broadway. But he would
get up like every inning or try to get them motivated,
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and he would do the good devils or whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, yes, and they would.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They would go and score five runs after he did that.
At the time, Barry Bonds hit the ball off my throat,
did he really?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
He did.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, I'm playing at scim playing at SC and I'm
a freshman, and I think Barry is a junior at
the time. And and so uh we had infield in
against Arizona State. This is a Dado field at SC
infield in and and and man left handed hitter. I'm
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second base. If I was third base, which I played later,
it'd been okay. But left hander second base enfield in
and Barry was a monster in college.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He was just he was dominated, and he had a
one hopper before I could even react. He had it
so hard it bounced off my throat. It bounced off
my throat and went to second base, where the short
stop picked it up and hadn't turned to double play.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's how hard he had.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I we were you the one to get back and
cover the bag.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I was not. I was not. I was looking for
my Adams out. That's where I.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Was, little, little five four to three double play fight.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh that's what it was. That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Man, Yeah, yeah, before I knew it, we had turned
the double player.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I was like, where'd the ball go?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And it bounced all the way to second base and
the short stuff picked it up and turned the double play.
But man, yeah, he was. He was a beast at
Arizona State. All right, Jack, that's tough. All right, here
we go, Jack. Evan Phillips on the il forearm discomfort,
Dave Roberts says, nothing serious. Should people be worried?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't think yet. Evan Phillips gave a pretty thorough
run down on what he had been feeling after the
game yesterday. You know, he said, you know, to him,
this might be something where obviously he started the season
on the injured list with a shoulder issue. Anytime you
ramp up like you know, you see injuries, especially you know,
more minor injuries early in the season. This guy's ramp
(04:02):
up and that he just felt a little discomfort there.
He's very confident he'll be back when the fifteen days
are up, I think, as far as Dodger injury standards go,
which can sometimes be a moving target, I mean, that
was one of the more confident sounding set of answers
we've gotten. But it is another concern for a bullpen
that's missing Blake Tryning and has taken on a lot
of innings. So they're hopeful it's nothing bad, but it
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does leave them in an even trickier spot for the
next couple of weeks at least.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, Jack, I mean, what in the world. This is
what the Dodgers did this offseason. They went to kind
of insulate themselves from this happening because they felt that
we can't live with bullpen games like we did last year,
even though we won the World Series. We better go
out and bulke up our starting pitching and help our bullpen.
But now they find themselves. I don't know if it's
(04:51):
a worse situation that they've been in the last couple
of years with all of the injuries, especially to the
pitching staff. I mean, what's on the horizon and in
your mind for the Dodgers going they get through this.
I know the guys are not out for the season,
but but man, are they fortunate that they're able to
have the type of schedule where they can play teams
like Miami and continue to get wins?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean I think when it comes to the
pitching in the short term, yes, this situation feels very
similar to some of the tough spots they've been in
the last couple of years. You know, they added a
lot of depth, but part of that depth was waiting
on guys like Tony Gonsolin and Clayton Kershaw to get
back and be healthy. And I certainly don't think they
were anticipating losing two of their top pitchers this early
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in the season, and so that's why they've been in
this spot where they're cycling through bullpen games, calling up
guys like Landon Knack and Bobby Miller to make spots
starts here and there, and why when coupled with you know,
some inconsistencies from guys like Roki Sasaki and Dustin May
and obviously glass Now had a couple of short starts
before he went on the il. That's why the bullpen
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has ended up taking on such a big workloads so
far this season. I think that the if you want
to be optimistic about it, it's that long term, I
think they're still in an okay spot, especially when it
comes to the rotation. Like you know, smell A. Glass
Now are going to get back to pitching in the
next probably month or two here. Whether they can stay
healthy the rest of the year is a question. But
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like you said, these aren't season ending things for now,
They're not structural problems, and so I think they are
still going to have kind of the depth of numbers,
you know, when you look at the big picture this season,
especially when Shoheokani comes back to pitching, which will probably
happen at some point closer to the second half. But yeah,
it is a little unsettling. I think if you're a
Dodger fan, that they went out and they added all
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these pictures this offseason, and they're, you know, a month
and a half into the season, back in a spot
where you are kind of wondering if they can hold up.
I think the bullpen's okay, Like, you still have Panter
Scott back there, you still have Kirby Ads, you have
guys you can trust. But you saw that game in
Miami the other night. They just had to put some
lower leverage guys in high leverage spots they're not designed
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to pitch in because they needed to give other guys rest.
And I think that's the kind of situation that they
are in danger of having repete itself, at least for
the next couple of weeks until they get a little healthier.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, Clayton Kershaw is coming to the rescue, jack.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, and that'll help. He's eligible to come off the
sixty dail on May eighteenth. It looks like, you know,
he's probably going to be ready to be activated that day.
And if I'm doing my pitching schedule math right, you
know that could be a day he starts on, or
at least some point right around then. And I think
the interesting thing with Kershaw is, you know, this injury
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is not to his arm. You know, there's a toe
surgery and a knee surgery in the off season.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
His arm is.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Probably as healthy as it's been at least since maybe
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. And I think that,
you know, as long as the velocity is there enough,
which it's been a little up and down during his
rehab stent, But the Dodgers are confident that, you know,
he's going to be in a place to be competitive.
Like I still think he's gonna execute pitches really well,
(08:03):
and he's still gonna get out with his slider, and
there's still a chance he's gonna look, you know, kind
of similar to maybe the Clayton Kershaw we saw the
last couple of years, which was still a competitive guy
even with you know, lesser stuff compared earlier in his career,
and just having him back to help again round out
the rotation and eat innings will help. He's also closing
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in on three thousand strikeouts, So I think there is
a lot more excitement for Kershaw's return than maybe we
thought there was gonna be given, you know, kind of
where he seemed like he was gonna fit in on
the depth chart coming into the season.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Hey, hey, Jack, I know everybody's excited for Otani to
get on the mound. Is it gonna be a tricky
situation of how the Dodgers utilize him? Because you can
get enamored by how special a player he is by
being a pitcher and being as good as he is
at the plate. And given the fact that the Dodgers
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are dealing with some of these injuries, do they have
to be careful that they don't get so enamored that
they want to use him more often than they had
already planned.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. Well, I think part of the reason his process
or his pitching recovery has been slow played to this
point is because they're trying to be careful about that.
These injuries they've had so far this season serve as
a reminder that it's very possible that the Dodgers are
going to need Shoho Tani pitching well and pitching at
(09:31):
a high level come the end of the season, and
as they ow into the playoffs. What they aren't going
to need from him is fifteen or twenty starts. You know,
even with the pitching struggles they've gone through recently, they
still want a lot of games. They know, they don't
need it to pitch a ton of innings this year,
so that's why, you know, they're just not rushing him
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at this point. If you look at his first Tommy John,
you know he came back that year or in two
thousand and twenty with the Angels, he wasn't pitching very well.
He suffered an arm injury, and his bat didn't look
very good that season. And I think that's one of
the things that Dodgers are trying to avoid, you know,
not overburdening him. So they're trying to thread this needle
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of let's give him time to slowly build his way up.
Let's try to schedule it so that he has enough
starts to get his legs under him as a pitcher,
and so we can see, you know, just where his
pitching is at coming off the second Tommy John surgery,
and hopefully we're in a place where by the end
of the season, you know, he's in a rhythm, he's
feeling good, we haven't put too many innings on his arm,
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and he can be an impact pitcher in the playoffs.
It's no guarantee it's all gonna work out that way.
You know, a second Tommy John is a tough thing
for pitchers to come back from, and very few have
come back and pitched well immediately. But the Dodgers are
hopeful that, you know, like everything else show Heyo, Tony does,
he does it at a different level, and they have
a lot of optimism that he's going to be a
(10:56):
productive pitcher when they when he comes back. It's just
about trying to strike that balance between how much runway
would he need to get ready versus you know what
would be over taxing his arm unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Jack, how much fun is it to watch Kim play
what is on TV? You can't take your eyes off
the guy. Is it like that in person?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, it's a it's a very different dynamic. And we
saw it that, you know, as soon as he went
into that first game, or I guess the second game.
Is a pinch runner in Atlanta dealing second off a
guy that's tough to steal bases against the ryceel Iglesias,
you know, going to third on a dropped third strike
where the catcher's throwing it to first base. Like that's
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the kind of tool set that we just haven't really seen,
not just from any player on the Dodgers this year,
but even the last couple of years, somebody that can
impact the game with their speed in that way. And
his bat has looked, I think, better than most people
expected it to look, and definitely a big improvement from
where it was in spring training when he was just
getting over one by pitchers most at bats. You know,
(12:02):
the Dodgers have worked with him on a swing change.
They've got his lower half more involved in it now,
so is a little more pop. And this is a
guy who in Korea always had good bats to ball skills.
He was a three h eight hitter over there, So
the question was going to be, you know, could he
adjust this swing to catch up with velocity, Could he
have a little bit of pop so that he's more
than just a slap hitter. And I think so far,
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you know, you've seen the makings of a guy who
is inevitably going to go through some growing pains and
some ups and downs, But even at this stage, for
at least a week, is able to hold his own
against big league pitching. And I think that's a really
encouraging sign for the Dodgers. You know, on top of
all the other tools he brings to the table.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Okay, So in that scenario and just knowing you know
from from being a former player, the only way you
get better is to play, right, And so do the
Dodgers look at his you know, these this series with
the with the Braves and with Miami and go we
got to get we got to keep this guy on
the field. We got to get him more reps. We
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got to keep him playing, We got to keep him
in the lineup. And does he stay and do they
keep him in lineup to get him more reps going
forward because as you mentioned, he becomes a tremendous weapon,
especially as they go into the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, they do want him to keep playing regularly, whether
that's at the big league level or at the minor
league level. When he initially came up, you know, it
was only supposed to be for a week until Tommy
Edmund came back, because you know, I think there was
still some question about, you know, was he really ready
for an extended runway, And they saw it as a
chance to get him into the big leagues, have him
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faced some big league pitching, kind of get his bearings
in a big league clubhouse, that sort of thing. But
with the way he's played so far, and then his
injury to Taoscar Hernandez, which is going to create an
opening in center field or second base, you know, both
positions the Tysan Kim plays. Suddenly there is a little
bit more of a pasthway for him to stay at
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the big league level and get a more extended run
of consistent playing time. The question is, you know, can
can he succeed over a more extended stretch up here?
It does look like he's going to probably get the
chance to do that, just depending on how long pay
Oscar is out and when exactly Tommy Edmond gets back.
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And he's been able to fill in well so far,
so you know, it'll depend on his performance. I still
think that, you know, if he starts to struggle, the
Dodgers won't be afraid to send him back down the
Triple A to keep working on things.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Again, their goal, like with so many of their players
this year, is to have him in a position where
he can get an impact player come the end of
the season. And I think the progress you've seen from
him so far is a pretty positive sign that you know,
there's there's a lot farther he can go between now
and then all.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right, Jack, appreciate it. Thanks for coming on. As always.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, I like the story time at the top those it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Jack, got it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:02):
Then?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, So I just
saw something, guys. I just read a stat It's about
the Angels. Can we just talk about that next week?
Come back, I just saw it. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Come on, Ronnie go, come on, happy, Happy, Happy birthday.
Philip Bailey, Earth winning fire right on, Ronnie Pete, Fred
Rogan on a throwback Thursday. Ronnie, you coming with it today?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Come on, all right, good job Ronnie with that nice job.
Here's what I found during the break. I gotta tell
you guys this, and it involves the Angels, and it's
something you never think about. I'm just gonna read it
to you, all right, So we'll do it like that
(16:53):
so everybody will be on the same page.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Last year, the offenses of Colorado and the White posted
two of the twelve worst walk to strike out ratios
in Major League history. Now, the Angels, who entered twenty
twenty five with hopes of finally being competitive again, are
making an early run at the all time mark. So
we understand from analytics and the way the Dodgers do things,
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this is very important. The Angels offense has accumulated eighty
one walks through the first thirty five games, the lowest
total of the Majors, their hitters have struck out in
eighty one games. I'm sorry, in thirty five games, three
hundred and thirty eight times. Why do you think they
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don't win? Ron Washington said, I don't know. Man. You
got guys that want to hit the ball out of
the park. What do you tell them? What do you
tell them? These guys want to hit the ball out
of the park. They think they can do them. What
do you tell them? Tell them?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How do you to manager one in Washington?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
How do you fix them? What do we do with
these guys.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's okay to hit a single. It's okay to hit
a double. I mean, it's it's okay to hit a
sacrifice fly. It's okay hit the ball to the right
side with a guy at third base in less than
two outs. It's okay to advance the runner. That's what
you tell him as a manager, don't you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well you would think you would tell him something, but
he's basically saying, Hey, I mean, we're working with these guys.
What do you want us to do. We got some
young guys that are still learning. We got some veterans
that think they can hit the ball out of the
Park every time. Hey, we're giving it our best shot here.
Do you understand why they're not very good?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
God, Lee, that's just that's just the mentality of the Angels, unfortunately.
It's just it's where they are. It's the reason they're
the Angels. And it doesn't matter. I mean, since like
at least and Kevin knows because Kevin was a Kevin
is an Angel fan.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Kevin is an Angel fan, and he knows.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
But since Mike Sosia has been there, you know, and
and and I don't want to get got rid of.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Jill Matt and I don't understand that part of it either.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But but it's it's it is almost like guys come
in there and it's like the status quo. Let's just
roll with it. We're gonna be okay, We're not gonna
be great. We're not gonna demand too much out of
our guys. We're not gonna we're not gonna strive for excellence.
It's just gonna be We're the second fiddle in town.
And it feels like they they kind of people accept it,
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including players, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm not saying that about Mike Trout, you know. And
but I think that he's kind of gotten numb to
being an angel now, whereas early on he was a
He's I mean, he still is a beast. He's a
beast and has been, but he's looking up going you know.
You know, I remember Little League, I remember high school.
You know it was winning was fun, Winning championships were
(19:59):
was fun. And we're not doing that and we have
no shot. So I don't know what. It's just the culture.
We talk about that a lot. The culture's got to
change at some point, and I don't And the only
way it feels now to change that culture Fred is
changed ownership.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Kevin, what do you think is the longtime, long suffering
Angels fan?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Are you guys?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I've been on the record, Arte moreno Is saying that
he wasn't going to sell the team was one of
the worst days of my life as a sports fan, obviously,
because to you, they've had so many general managers over
the last even ten years, whether Tony Reagan's and all
these guys, Billy Epp, you name them.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So they've had a lot of good ones, Yeah, solid ones.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They've had guys just so much turnover from the general
manager position and has trickled down for the managerial position.
Joe Madden had a spat against Perrymnazzi and I believe
and that's why he left. He was like he wanted
to come down from the front office and tell him
how to manage. And Joe Madden was like, I was
here as a bitch coach, won World Series. I took
the Tampa Bay Rays who were struggling, and took them
to the World Series. I think I know what I'm doing.
(21:01):
I'm not gonna listen to you with all due respect,
and then they said, with all due respect, get the helpout.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So that's Joe.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Mattin who's been one of the best managers in baseball
for the last year.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Title won World title with the Cup, with the Cups
they won it.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
So you make moves like that. That all all comes
from the very top from ARTI moreno. So everything that's happened,
it started out so well with Fred You remember when
he bought the team from Disney back in two thousand
and three, two thousand and four, yep, and signed Vlad
Guerrero and signed all these players and bart Cologne won
a cy Young and they had about a ten twelve
year run where they were one of the best organizations
(21:36):
in all of baseball. But then, like you mentioned, like
you mentioned Fred, no investment in the infrastructure in the
minor leagues. And so after we're off when you were
signing all these guys to these big league contracts, the
Albert pooholzz and the Josh Hamilton's and those don't work out.
Now you have no reinforcements to call up and actually
help you. And it's just it took a while, but
(21:57):
now it's starting to catch up to them, and there's
really just no way out because already doesn't want to
spend any money.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But he did spend some this year. He spent it
the wrong place again.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Well, Jorge Solaire and Kyle Hendricks and Kakuci and Don
the couch as you call him.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Fred, Wait what did Frick callc.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
These are all like reclamation, you know, one year, give
him a big contract and hope he can do something
kind of deals. What is that gonna get you nowhere?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
No, it doesn't. There's no plan for sustained success.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And the problem Fred too and Rodney is like, at
least that just bottom out, just like you know what,
we're terrible. We're gonna tell you that we're terrible. We're
just gonna try to rebuild this thing from the ground up.
I think, if you're honest fans, look, they've been so
bad for so long. You say, well, look you're trying
to kind of scrape the bottom of the barrel with
these free agents and try to say you're competing. I'd
rather just tell me, like, you know what, we're scraping everything.
(22:56):
We're started from the ground floor. Work with us for
the next four or five years, where we build our
minor league system and will try to be competitive that way.
At least there's a plan. Right now, it's rudderless. There
is no plan. They have no idea what the hell
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I think the only way that happens is when he
sells the team. I think that otherwise, how is that
going to happen?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It won't.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It won't, And then you just have to wonder, Okay,
at what point is he going to tap out? Remember
he kept the team because he still has a love
for baseball. Actually no, he doesn't. He's killing it. I
love the game, Well, you're murdering it. Let it go,
you know, if you love it, set it free exactly,
let it go. And on the topic of the Angels
(23:40):
the Ducks. You know, the Ducks are remodeling Honda Center.
I think they're spending a billion dollars and.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
That's the Sam Welly's out of their own pocket.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
By the way, Yeah, the sam Wallis are so cool.
The sam Wallis are just great. They really are. They're
the nicest people on the planet. I mean, they're hard,
they're incredibly generous, very kind and just wonderful, wonderful people,
and they've really, unlike what Arty has done, they have
integrated into Anaheim. So you know, the Ducks have been
(24:09):
rebuilding for a while. They want to win, by the way,
they do want to win, but they've been rebuilding, and
they made a move now to get a coach. I
think they believe they're ready. They went and got Joel Quinnville.
And Joel Quinnville, of course, coach the Blues the Avalanche.
I think Kings fans remember all too well when he
was a coach of the Blackhawks and the Florida Panthers.
(24:32):
That's a pretty big time signing. That is a big
time signing as their coach. So now maybe they believe
now is the time.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Right right, I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I'm just when you see that from another organization that's
in your city, in your town. Sure, and then you
see the other one it doesn't do the similar things.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's like for years with the Clippers and the Lakers,
Lakers would do everything right, and then you had Donald
Sterling with the Clippers. It's like, how how does this happen?
But I do listen along that line. I think that
the since they got to LA and been here a
couple of years, I think the Chargers in the Spanos
(25:22):
family have understood it's we got to do things differently
in LA market, and they've started to change. You know,
they got their franchise quarterback, they got their big time coach,
They're spending money. I think they are starting to get it,
and I think the charge is going to be good
for a while. They're going to be on the verge
of making the playoffs on a regular basis, I think
(25:44):
with Harball and with Justin Herbert. But you can't be
in this town without having that kind of winning. I'm
going for it mentality. Otherwise you're you're going to get
run out of town or you'll be a pariah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Both are fair and to speak of the Chargers, look
when they came here. If we're to be honest, nobody
wanted them, right, I mean nobody wanted them, and everybody
wanted the Raiders. Nobody wanted the Chargers. There were thoughts
of Dean Spanos didn't have the money to even pull
this off, if we're being honest, right, I mean they're
on the radio station. iHeart didn't even have the money
(26:24):
and they ended up playing a dignity Hell Sports Park.
I mean it was. But you know something, they have
done a very good job they have of becoming part
of this community. They really have. And all of the
things that people said about the Spanos is they're here
to win. They are competitive. Yep, they're not just packing
(26:46):
it in. They went out and signed Harbaugh, they spent money.
People go to their games, and if we're to be fair,
at the beginning, you wouldn't even know the Chargers existed
because everybody was wearing the opposing team's jersey. It's not
like that any more. No, No, the Chargers do do
well when they're playing. And even I will say, you know,
(27:08):
because you're right, it used to play they you know,
and they're in a tough division because they got to
play the Chiefs and the Raiders every year. And the Broncos,
who those fan bases, are as good as anyone, their
top five in the league. And so it was sea
of red when the Chiefs came to town. It was black
and silver when the Raiders came to town. And even with
the Broncos, their Broncos brought a lot of fans. But
(27:30):
every single year more and more Charger fans were in
that stadium when those teams came. And they have done
a great job of like you said, be a part
of the community, and they are now part of LA.
I can say that the Chargers are now part of
LA I would agree with you. They have done that
(27:51):
and they have done a good job of it. Who
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Speaker 3 (28:06):
I wont it? I want it? Fred Damn Okay, but
caller number six there it is? Oh yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
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one of those tomorrow. So there you go. Oh, we're
gonna hook you up for Mother's Day?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
What I'm saying, Uh yeah. Mamoto goes for the Dodgers
tonight in Arizona. I got a good feeling about that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Rodney.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
He's the what is he He's the iron horse, He's
the iron man, He's the he's the ace of the staff.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Red.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
He's got a below I think he's got a below
one e r A right now, right accurate, and he's
he's the best in the in the business right now,
in the major leagues. I think it's zero point nine
zero or something like that. Uh, he's been incredible and
he's been durable, and look for him to go seven
innings tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, Diamondbacks haven't been killing anybody this year. Now, you
know they're been right there though. You know they're they're
looking they can strike. They got the staff. I think
Corbyn Burns is going tonight too, isn't he.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think they got the staff, pitching staff to do it,
and offensively, they got some weapons. The Diamondbacks will be
there down the stretch. Just trust me, they will be.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
There, yeah, very much. You know they know when they
need to get hot. Yeah, you just need to be
in the fight. And well coached by Tory Leavello, well
well coached Montclair Prep and UCLA.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yes, he is all right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
So Petros some money or next we'll get out of here.
With the Dodgers starting, they'll lead you into the pregame show. Ronnie,
thank you, Kevin, appreciate it. As always. Rodney will wrap
up the week tomorrow, Yes, sir,
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