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May 9, 2025 • 41 mins
The Dodgers and Yoshi Yamamoto fall to the D-Backs in their series opener. Rafael Devers says he aint playing 1st base. Lebron James speaks on the T-Wolves series loss. A racoon on meth?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go with two hours show, The
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I'm good, Freddy, I'm good. You're good. I'm good. Yeah,
I'm good. I'm good. Good. It's Friday. We don't care.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Is that why you're good? Because it's Friday and you
don't care? Yeah, yeah, it's Friday. I don't I don't,
you know, don't really care on Friday's right.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, I know how this works, anything goes.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Who knows what they'll come out of my mouth today, Fred,
I'm telling you because you look like the cat that
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
You look like there's something on your mind. Something is happening,
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(01:21):
who knows nothing about sports, and the two of them,
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Garrett? Gary knows a lot about sports. What are you
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Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah? I saw him this morning. He's wearing a San
Francisco Giants Fourth of July hat. I said, what are
you doing? What are you doing? Why would you wear
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Speaker 3 (01:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Are you doing? So he'll be in here with his hat,
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Speaker 2 (03:34):
There you go, there you go, where the well, we're
what you call Freddy the eye candy for the Eric
Dickerson Show. How about that. That's a fine way to
make it good. Yeah, well I can't. No one's ever
suggested that about me before, So thank.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just makes me feel
good on a Friday. Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I could have said, you're the you know, you're the
stand in, you're the fluffers.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, sure, No, No, I'm not like you said. You
never know what's going to come out of your mouth
on Friday, you know, you know, Yeah, I don't want
to be the fluffer. But thank you. Never received that
moniker before, so that was appreciated. Okay. So anyway, last

(04:20):
night in Phoenix, Yamamoto got lit, gave up a couple
of home runs too much to overcome Grand Slam and
a solo shot and he loses. Now that was his
roughest outing of the year, and you look at it
and you go, okay, so now they're playing the Diamondbacks.
Oh my god, this is real now. I mean they're
playing the Diamondbacks and if you think about it, they

(04:41):
haven't even played anybody in the West besides Colorado, and
Colorado is really not even in the West. They're kind
of like, where.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Are they They're not in the West where they're kind
of out in the Pacific Ocean somewhere. It's gonna say,
they're near Hawaii and Samoa.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, far far West. Yeah, they're the Far West doesn't
even exist. Really, I mean in someone's mind they do,
but they don't. Really. They're in the wild West, for
they're in the wild wet. Yeah, they're in the wild West.
So so now the first time you get a shot
at an NL West opponent and uh, Diamondbacks beat him
five to three. Aside from that, I don't take much

(05:20):
from it. Brandan Fott pitched pretty well six point one
scoreless innings for the Diamondbacks. He's good. He's just on
a long term deal, young guy. But what does it mean?
What does it mean in the big picture? Not much.
It means I'll play again tonight. Really, not much. I understand.
You know, you want to get psyched up. Okay, Now,
these are the battles that are going to happen between

(05:41):
these Western Division foes. You want to win more than
you'll lose against him right now, no question. But aside
from that they lost five three Rodney, I can't really
look at anything and go, we got to focus on this,
got to worry about that, not now.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean, they're obviously going to play the Diamondbacks several times.
They're gonna have several series with them, not as much
as they used to with the with the West. The
way the schedules have changed. I think they used to
play teams in the in their division nineteen times or
something like that. Now it's it's cut down a little bit.
But you still got to play them a lot. And
you're gonna play the Padres, You're gonna play the Giants

(06:17):
quite a bit. The one thing I would say, Fred, yes,
it's May. We got a long time before September and
October hit and by the time those months roll around,
we're not gonna remember much about what happened on May
eighth or May ninth.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, in Arizona. But I will say.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
The Dodgers can't get swept or can't get beat up,
because that will leave a lasting impression, you know, and
what you don't want to do, especially within your division,
is give the opponents that you are probably going to
see in the playoffs at some point the life and
the feeling like we can beat you. We can beat

(07:05):
you anytime, and there's no fear because we beat you
nine of the twelve times we played you, So we
can beat you. And obviously it depends on who to
get hot, but you don't want to give them that
kind of confidence. So you know, you want to let
them know throughout the season who the big dog is, right,

(07:25):
and if you don't do that, you just give them
added confidence. So I hopefully, hopefully, you know, the Dodgers
can bounce back and have a good series.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Even if they split. It's okay because it's not a
big deal.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's may but I got to tell you, you know, you
let them sweep you or they go three to one
in this series and then they you know, beat you
again at Dodger Stadium all of a sudden, you know,
when they play you or or your face to play
them in the in the in the playoffs, it's like
no big deal because we know how to beat you.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Guys. Yeah, I hear you. One game, Let's see how
the other ones go just kind of get your footing here.
Five of the dodgers next twelve series will be against
NL West opponents, so yeah, you know, you'll get a feel,
a sense for how it goes. I mean, they lost
five to three, It's not like they lost twenty three
to nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And the way they lost, right, it was a Grand
Slam and a home run, right, So it wasn't like
they it wasn't like they put runs together every single
inning and they scored multiple runs and multiple innings. They
two home runs were really the equivalent the guy's got
on base for the Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
But it was really that in a home run. Other
than that, not much to it.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
And the Dodgers, you know, you got guarantee you they
were a little nervous coming up there. Old tany hits,
the home run and they oh god, they come to
the Dodgers again, you know. And that's the way I
think most people are going to feel, is like no
lead is safe against the Dodgers, and the Dodgers got
to keep that kind of feeling with the other teams
going forward.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. You mentioned Otani great piece in the Times. His
agents spoke at an investment conference and when Otani signed
that deal with Dodger six hundred and eighty million dollars deferred.
He makes two million dollars a year. He wanted the
club to have the money to continue to build something
that is sustainable and give him the most opportunities to win.
And we sat and wondered, Okay, so he doesn't need

(09:17):
six hundred and eighty million dollars, so he must be
doing pretty well. We know he's got some invests, some
sponsorships going on in Japan. We know that some endorsements,
things like that. He works for companies. So you try
to figure out what's he make. You know, forty fifty
million bucks a year maybe right, and that'd be a
good chunk change. Yeah, Well, his agent confirmed he makes

(09:41):
over one hundred million dollars a year in endorsements from Japan.
Over one hundred million a year in endorsements. He's everywhere.
We were both there. We talked about you couldn't go
anywhere without seeing an ad with him. Pays him over
one hundred million dollars a year. I think he endorses
twenty companies over there. He could endorse every company over there.

(10:03):
He could be the only spokesperson on Japanese TV if
he chose to. But his agent said, look, we don't
do everything. You know, some things we're not going to do.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It certainly looked like he did everything when you're over there,
right because he was.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I know everybody's seen in you know.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
The global ads like the New Balance as that he
does and you know we got now, but correct if
I'm wrong. For he was doing you know, cooking utensils,
he was doing Ramen commercials, he was everywhere with skincare product,
in care products, beds, beds, luggage, he was doing everything.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
You saw his face.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
So yeah, it doesn't surprise me that he's making that
kind of money off the field, which is why obviously
he was able to defer most of that seven hundred
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, he doesn't even need the tax liability right now.
Now he's just doing fine at over one hundred million
a year. Something else that was interesting that his agent said,
because o'tanni signed a ten year deal. Now the question
was why didn't he sign a longer deal like a
lot of guys do.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, wat Soto signed a fifteen year deal and then
other guy's done, you know, thirteen year deal. The petise
or somebody else did that. But yeah, yeah, I saw
that he did. Why didn't he, Fritt, Why didn't he
sign a fifteen year deal?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, Well, because he obviously listens to this show and
believes what we say, and that is there's a point
of diminishing returns. You're just not going to be as good.
You're not. I mean, the only freak of nature is
Lebron James. He is a freak. He is that old
and that good. No one else is going to be

(11:43):
that good. And what O'tani said was, look, when I go,
I want to go at a point where I'm still Otani.
Here's thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. The quote here is who is
this guy? He can't even run down to first base.
He'll be thirty nine years old when his deal's up,

(12:06):
when it's current dealed up, not if he signed a
fifteen year deal right when the current deals up. Yeah, okay,
So he just said, I'm not going to go out
that way. I'm not going to go out embarrassing myself.
I'm not going to go out as a shell of
who I was. I won't do it. I want to
go out when I can still play. Will he be
able to play? In ten years, who knows, But I'll
tell you what, he's got a better shot in ten

(12:27):
years that he does n't fifteen. So that's why he
did what he did, because he didn't want to go
unless he went with his his head held high. He
didn't want to be that guy hanging around. I respect that, Rodney. Yeah, yeah,
I mean again, let's be honest. The one hundred million

(12:49):
dollars off the field kind of helps him be.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Able to say that because a lot of guys would
look up and go, yeah, let me lock up as
many years as I possibly can, even if I can't play,
those last three years is guaranteed to me.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
So I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But yeah, the off the field stuff, But I think
the mentality and what came out is is the right
approach because at thirty nine is the end of his
ten year deal, and then you're thinking, so at forty three,
forty four, forty five years old, you know, how is
he going to be even if he's playing and he

(13:26):
doesn't want to be the old guy hobbling down to
first base and have people see him in the later years.
Because we've seen it. We've seen it, especially we see
it with boxers who go past their prime, and it's
just a sad sight to see somebody that you loved
that was a great player, a great athlete, you know,
diminished that that far. And so I kind of, you know,

(13:48):
I kind of respect that and respect the guys that
go out in their prime. Now, if you can still
do it, like Lebron, you got to keep going. You
got to keep going. But most most people can't. Most
people know when they hit that late thirties forties, you know,
and baseball was a little bit different, and you can
play a little bit longer, but they know it's time
time to go. Yeah, if you can do even even

(14:10):
Tom Brady probably stayed a year too long.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, yeah, you know. It's the Ya Tittle thing. I've
talked about it as a kid growing up, Sports Illustrated
had the giant book of pictures. I mean it was
a giant book and they were Sports Illustrated pictures and
it was just great. And Ya Tittle the Great Giants quarterback.
My only image of Ya Tittle is this I have won.

(14:32):
I wouldn't know enough to see him play, but I
know he was great. There was one image I have
of him on his knees with his helmet by his side,
bald right, with blood running down his face. He got hit.
Uh huh. And that was the image I have of

(14:54):
the great Ya Tittle. And why was that? Because he
stayed around just a little too long, just not quite
as fast as he was, just not quite as quick
as he was, And that little difference created the image
I have of Ya Tittle in my mind, the guy

(15:16):
that was him, the great Ya Tittle. He stayed around
too long. It was near the end of his career.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, yeah, and but yeah, you really gotta, you gotta.
And I think that he you know, he comes from obviously,
comes from Japan, and there's a there's a respect in
that culture. I think, first respecting you know, family, respecting others,

(15:42):
but also think he respects the game. You know, you
watch the way he plays, He respects the game. He
says hello, and he's polite to the umpire. Make sure
he's as low to the catcher. He's the most polite
superstar that I think I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
You know, deep inside he is a fierce, fierce competitor,
but his mannerisms out there is a total respect for
the game, and I think that played into him saying, look,
I don't want to be that kid or that guy
at forty that's hobbling around the bases and disrespect the game.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, and you have to respect that. Yeah. Yeah, it
means It means so much to him. On the topic
of respect of the game, did you see the story
about Rafael Devers? I did, Okay, I did so. For
those of you that don't know, Rafael Devers plays third
base for the Red Sox. Signed a long term, big
money deal. When he's healthy, he can tear the cover

(16:39):
off the ball. He can really hit. So before the
season began, Devers is the third baseman. Alex Bregman is
available in free agency and the Red Sox sign him. Yeah,
all right, he's a third baseman, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
But before that, they signed Devers to the biggest Red
Sox contract ever.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, so he's there, he's Mookie. He's now the Red
Sox Mookie. Right, Mookie came from the Red Sox anyway.
That's devers deal, a giant deal. So Bregman's available, they
signed Bregman, they go to Devers and they go, look, Raffie,
as they call him in Boston, do us a solid

(17:19):
We're gonna need to move you so Bregman can play
third base, and you know, we'll work you out somewhere else,
or you'll be the DH. But this is what we
need to do. It's for the good of the team.
Here's what Raffi says, No, on the third basement, I
signed the deal. I'm not going anywhere. That's my position,
that's where I'm going to play. And they said, well,

(17:40):
we want you to think about it, and he thought
about it, and they came back to him and he goes, no,
I'm not moving. I don't care. Now understand if this
was the Dodgers, this would never happen. But it's the
Red Sox. So anyway, time goes on and they tell them, listen,
you're gonna be the DH. Put your glove away this year.
You will be the DH. He is, all right, fine,

(18:02):
I'm a team player. I'll be the DH. I don't
really want to be the DH. I'm the third baseman.
But that's what you want, that's what you need. I understand.
I will sacrifice for the good of the team. I
will be the DH. Great. So, now the Red Sox
first baseman against hurt. So they go, Raffie, here's what
we need. Now, we need you to play first base.

(18:26):
He goes, I'm not playing first base. No, no, we
need you to play This guy got hurt and we
need you to move over there for the team. He goes,
I don't think you understand I'm not playing first base.
As a matter of fact, you told me to put
my glove away, and I put it away. I've already
made one sacrifice for the team. What do you think
I'm a machine? I've never played first base. I refuse

(18:48):
to play first base. I will now only be the
designated hitter because that's what you told me I had
to do, and I didn't want to do that, but
I did it. Now you want me to play first base.
I will not play first base. What are you going
to do to me? I'm the DH Rodney. That is
really the story of Raphael Devers. All Star, All Star,

(19:10):
biggest contract in Red Sox history. I'm not doing it,
and you can't make me. And how do you like that?
What do you think of that story? Rodney? Well?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, first of all, you wouldn't be Yeah, you're right,
he wouldn't be on the Dodgers because that's not the
way the Dodgers operate. You know I because I'm not
in it, and we weren't privy to the early conversations,

(19:44):
and I know enough to know how teams and clubs
sometimes treat their players, even when they sign a guy
like him to a lot of money and the most
money and most biggest contract in Red Sox history, saying
you're our third basement for the next ten year. He's
thinking that when he signs that contract, you're our third baseman.

(20:06):
And then they go out and sign Bregman, so you're
not our third baseman.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
A lot of times people say, well, you got all
the money, so just be quiet, shut up, and go
play baseball. But you also are a competitor after the
money's done. It's about playing baseball. It's about being out
there playing and competing. And he was hurt. He was hurt,
and then they're asking him to play a position that
he never played before. And a part of me understands,

(20:35):
I'm not going to put my situation myself in a
situation where I embarrass myself.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Either you can.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Put me out there and throw me at first base
and I make error after error, and all of a sudden,
I'm getting booed out of the stadium. Because I can't
play first base. I've never played first base in my life.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, so I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know the guy down, bring somebody up like every
club does. But don't put me there because I've never
played there, and you never told me. First of all,
if you thought I would should be playing first base,
then tell me to take ground balls at first base
in spring training or after you signed Bregman and he's

(21:19):
gonna be the third baseman, Hey, RAFFI he might, he
might want to play some other positions, but you didn't
tell me that. You told me to put my glove away.
I'm going to be the DH And now first baseman
gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Now you want me to move there and play there.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I get it. I get why he's upset, and now
he handled it bad. You know, he didn't express himself
the right way. But I under I do understand, Like
why are you gonna put me in a in a
position to be embarrassed?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
But I've never played that before. Let me just go
out and play.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'd be like somebody's telling you know, like we look
at key k you play every position. He didn't play catcher,
Get go catch today?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
He would do it. Freddy Freddie frueman. Freddie, he would
go try to do it.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, he would, because he's that kind of guy. But
it probably would be a disaster, you know. Or Freddie,
go play go hey and Freddie, we need you to
catch today. Will Will and Austin Barnes are out. Freddie,
you know the next best thing we got, go catch.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He'd probably try it. I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And first base is different than playing you know, saying okay, Rolfie,
go play outfield, go play left field or right field
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's different. It's the nuance to playing first base. It
really is. So I'm not. I I understand. You got
to be unselfish.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
And and yes they they did mak him uh and
pay him a big time contract. But if you're gonna
have me and you don't tell me, I'm not, I'm
no longer the full time third basement and you want
to work me in somewhere else, start working.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Me in in spring training? Yeah, working me in somewhere else. Yeah.
But can'ty go off before games now and start working
on it. Yeah, but they're asking to play now, fred
I know, so give me two weeks. How about that?
Give me two weeks. Let me work on let me.
Let me work on it.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, let me work on it, and if if if
I look good and feel comfortable, then I'll do it.
But if it's something that I can't do, then I
can't do it.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Remember when the Dodgers had Jack Peterson play first base.
Oh yeah, it was a disaster. Remember that it was offense,
it was and you know what they did, it was
they kept running them out there and go back out
there and try again and try it again until they
just it was enough. Yeah. Yeah, But seeing that's a
difference in philosophies, and I hear what you say about Devors,

(23:53):
I get it. On the Dodgers, we need you to
go play shortstop. I've never played shortstop before. Yeah, but
that's when we need you to do. So get in
there and guys go. Maybe they look good, maybe they
look bad. But if the Dodgers ask you to do something,
yeah you do it. You know, Austin Barnes, we need
you to play third base tonight. Well, I've never played

(24:15):
third base. We'll go play Okay, I'll get out there
and give it a shot. Everybody in the Dodgers operates
that way. Yeah, because there's been a history of doing that. Yeah,
There's been a history of doing that.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Miguel Rojas, perennials short stuff, asked to play second base.
You know, even Tommy Edmonds asked to play everywhere around
the infill and outfield. But you know that going into
this into the Dodgers clubhouse, once you sign with the Dodgers,
you know you may be asked to do different things.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I mean, look at movies.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
First case, right play shortstop, and then even last year,
after he comes back from the injury, they said maybe
you got to go back to the right field. He
goes back to right He accepts that. He and he
accepts that without complaining. Right he could have easily said, no,

(25:08):
I you told me in spring training I was going
to be the shortstop, you know, and just because I
got hurt, now you're going to move me back to
right field. I thought I was a shortstop. And by
the way, you also told me I was going to
be the leadoff guy. And I come back and I'm
not the leadoff guy anymore. You didn't hear anything out

(25:29):
of Mookie. All right, I play right field, I'll hit second.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
What do you need? Yeah, tell me what you yeah. Yeah,
And it's a difference.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know, Ralph Field Devers and then different guys
act to it, you know, and handle things a different way.
I just think, you know, externally, it was a bad look.
He could have handled it a lot better internally.

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All right, we got the answer now. I mean people
have been trying to figure this out for a long time,
at least the last couple of weeks. Why didn't the
Lakers beat the Timberwolves? Now we have the answer and
that's next.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Hello, yeah, yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
There, it is. It is a Friday, and on Fridays we.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Nahha, we don't nope, Rodney p Fred Rogan on a Friday.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Let's go all right, So what happened to the Lakers
in the playoffs against Minnesota? What happened? How could that
have possibly happened? Well? Lebron was on the Mind the
Game podcast with Steve Nash, and let's listen to Lebron.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
When it comes to the postseason man matchups, sometimes it
doesn't determine how well of a regular season you had.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know, it's the matchups.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
And we ran into a damn good matchup a team
that's been battle tested, a team that's hungry, a team
that a lot of a lot of youth but also
experienced at the same time, and another team that's trying
to make the next step. And you know, they were
a worthy opponent, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Okay, so what happened. What happened was they didn't match
up well against them. Rodney got to be honest. I
think that is honest. That makes sense. We said that
they didn't match up well against them in this scenario,
they were too small in Minnesota sometimes dominated, Yeah, but
they did. They did. That was a result.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
And sometimes you go into a series and you think, well,
we can go small against them, and that kind of
work for us. And you know, look, if you really
want to analyze it, the series, even though it ended
up for to one, could have been a lot closer
than that. There were moments in I think three of
those games that the Lakers could have won. It was
close in the fourth quarter, or they were leading late

(28:08):
in the fourth quarter and gave up the lead.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
So it could have gone either way.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
But when you lose a series like that, especially you
lose it in the fashion that they did in five games,
you know, the people tend to go to the glaring
obvious things that size was a factor and we weren't
big enough, and they they matched up better than us,
and they did all those things. I get it. There's

(28:38):
nothing to there's no excuses for it. But I think
he was he was, you know, being brutally honest about
that that they probably knew that that could be a
problem and it turned out to be a problem in
the series.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, And I think that's fair. So here's my question.
Would that mean that if you were going to win
a title in the NBA, don't you need a roster
that would be quote unquote matchup proof that you would
be able to match up, however, with whoever, in order
to win. Because if matchups are an issue when you're

(29:14):
a roster construction, if you run into somebody that poses
you great problems, you're in trouble. So when they're building
the roster, doesn't it basically have to be matchup proof? Yeah?
It does.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I mean you got to try to match yourself up
against any type of scenario.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
But what does that mean. I mean, going.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Into the series with the Boston Celtics and the Knicks,
you felt that Boston size was going to be an
issue or benefit for Boston. You know, Boston sits there
down oh two, So you know, are the Knicks a
bad matchup for Boston? Is Boston just not playing well?
You look at the Lakers and you look at their
stats in the fourth quarter. Is it the matchup problem

(30:04):
or the Lakers just didn't play well in the fourth quarter.
You know, we can, we can Monday morning quarterback all
day long. But the biggest reason to me was Lakers
didn't play well in the fourth quarter. They were abysmo
in the fourth quarter. And you say matchup all you want,
but you also got to play well.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
If they had have.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Played their best and still lost, then you could really
point to the matchup situations. But yeah, you know, you
try to match your team to to what you you know,
what you think you're going to need. And the NBA
and all sports are ever changing, right, so you know,
there was a point where it was all about bigs

(30:47):
and post players and you know, you gotta be big,
and then it went small, and then you got to
go small, and you gotta be able to shoot three guys,
got to be able to move around on those three
and d guys and and all of that, and we
need to need a maybe one rim protector. Now that
not necessarily a case. My thing with the Lakers is
they won a title with a formula with having bigs

(31:10):
and having shooters, and they broke it up the next
year and they've never been back since.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
All right, well, let's listen to Lebron.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
How does uh kind of these like media narratives enter
your frame of mind at this time of year, Like,
for example, because it's the Lakers, because it's you and Luca,
it's like it's all about how did the Lakers lose?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
This?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Seriously? Really?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like what happened here is Minnesota is a hell of
a team and they won the series? Like, how do
you deal with some of that when you try to process?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, for me, I've definitely learned over the years that
teams win championships, and you know, it's neverwas all ways
always teams always win championships. And yes, individuals get a
lot of the accolades and the praise, but a collective group,
you know, wins championships. Now, you know, you have your

(32:07):
big guys that make big plays at the end of games,
throughout the game, or whatever the case may be. But ultimately,
you know, teams win championships. And I understand that. And
it's never just about me and Luca. It was never
just about you know, Anthony Edwards and Julius Rando. You know,
it was always Minnesota versus the Lakers, And I understand that,
and I and I am at a point in my

(32:29):
career now where I you know, I don't lose sleep
over that, Like, how did me and Luca louse?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like, well, yeah, well there's there's eight other guys on
the board, okay, And honestly, bye by that too. It
is teams that win. Yeah, you know, sure, Lebron has
been the focal point of a lot of teams for
a lot of years. But remember that it wasn't Lebron
playing against five guys. It wasn't five on one. He

(32:55):
had to have the right players around him. He would
be the best player on the court, but he needed
the right guys around him because one can't beat five
and in this scenario, and Luca did not have he
was sick, and he was his shooting was off, but
two can't beat five, and it was quite apparent.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, and Austin Reeves didn't play well right throughout the
whole series, so you didn't have you didn't have two
of your big three play well. And you can go
back to Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan didn't win the six
titles without big shots by John Paxson or Steve Kerr,
you know, or Tony Kukoach Scottie Pippen. Obviously, you know

(33:38):
you could have those two, but he still needed Horace
Grants and he still needed, you know, the Ron Harper's
of the world to do their part case e p.
When the Lakers won in the Bubble, you know, JaVale
McGee and those guys. You need a full team. And
I know people like to focus on the individual. It's
all Lebron, it's all Lebron and Luca. They they should

(34:00):
be able to do it on their own, but it's
the others. It's the others that help you win. And
and we saw that with Boston. Boston had six seven
guys last year that came through that you couldn't stop.
Derek White was probably the MVP of that whole playoff
and series last year in in the finals.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You're seeing that with with Denver.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I mean, everybody talks about, you know, the Joker, but
Aaron Gordon is just as big in these playoffs as
the Joker, and so is Kristin Brown just as big.
And Russell Westbrook, by the way, has played big for them.
I don't know if they I don't know if they
beat the Clippers without Russell Westbrook playing the way he

(34:44):
played three.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Uh. Yeah. It's something to keep in mind as the
Lakers move forward now and construct their roster for next year,
because that's true. What he said is right. There were
some deficiencies on the roster and hopefully they will be
addressed moving into next season. Do not forget we're giving
away a two hundred and fifty dollars Burke Williams gift card.

(35:10):
Hey don't arrest me. I'm not the one smoking the
meth pipe. It's the raccoon sitting next to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Today's afternoon delight is Bliss by Tyler. The twenty three
year old singer songwriter dropped this track last night as
she gears up for the release of her sophomore album
later this year. Bliss is also the title of her

(35:44):
new signature air once Smoothie, in which proceeds will go
to a nonprofit group based in her native South Africa
that empowers women between the ages of eighteen and twenty
eight by developing strategies for their educational and personal development.
Again today's Afternoon Delight, it is Bliss by Tyler.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay, Rodney, here's the dilemma. So there's a woman. She's
driving in Ohio and the police pull her over, Okay,
just for a routine traffic stuff. Well, during the traffic stop,
they realize that this woman is driving with a suspended
driver's license all right, and basically has an active warrant

(36:33):
out for her arrest. So the police do what they
gotta do. Right, You've got a traffic stop, suspended license,
warrant for your arrest, Come with me. In the meantime,
they take the woman away from the car and then
they go back to search the car. And this is
where it gets hazy. Now, for some reason, yeah, this

(36:58):
is word gets hazy. Okay, for some reason, they charged
this woman with drug possession meth in her car. They
search the car and they find the myth. So now
she's got a real problem. She's got an active warrant,
suspended license, and now they find meth in the car.
But there's one thing here that must be taken into consideration.

(37:22):
They cannot They're going to try to prove that the
myth belonged to the woman. I don't know if that's
the case, because when searching the car, they also realized
there was a raccoon in the car holding a meth pipe.
So and uh, the raccoon's name was Chew.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Wait wait, wait, yeah, let me get this straight.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Sure, there's a there's a woman.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
He's got warrants out on her, just driving with a
suspended license. Probably you know, they run the license. They
know this woman. They they got to pull her off,
get her. Yeah, they pull her over, pull her out
of the car, and they go search the car because
she's got warrants.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So they got to search the car.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, and they find a raccoon in there with a
meth pipe.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's right, the meth pipe to its mouth.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And the raccoon is her pet. Yes, you got a
pet raccoon. Yes, they said, just a rest for that.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah. I'm just gonna say that's a problem itself. Yes,
it is. It's hard to have a pet raccoon that raccoon.
I've told you the story of when I met the
raccoon and I said, raccoon, put down that pizza. Raccoons, Kevin,
don't shake your head. Raccoons are not your friend. I'm
sure the same language. Fred. Sure, raccoon put down that pizza.

(38:45):
And then I did what anyone would do, my ran
because I didn't want the raccoon to attack me.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Raccoons will go raccoon on you. You can't have raccoons as pets.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, no, And they don't, as you would suggest yesterday,
get manny petties. Their nails are very long. Yes, they
have hands. Yeah, don't think you can just close the
door and then I go come in after you. They
can open it. Yeah, they got they got thumbs, is
what he's saying, Kevin. They got thumb posable thumbs. That's right. Yeah,
all right. So anyway, they find Chew with a raccoon,
and Jewey's got a meth pipe up to his mouth,

(39:15):
and that really begs the question. And I don't know
legally what the answer here is. Sure she's driving, she's
got a suspended license, and there is meth in the car,
but obviously it is Chewy that uses the math, and
maybe the drugs were the raccoons and not hers. So
if that's the case, I don't understand how she could
also be charged with possession of drugs if it's quite

(39:39):
apparent that the raccoon is sitting there with a meth
pipe in its mouth.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, but you really think fred the raccoon is walking
down to the corner and seeing you know, Bubba and
Willie over there in the corner and saying, hey, I
need some meth, baby, come on, give me some. That's
the raccoon doing that. Or is that the woman doing that?
Come on, ra you ain't buying the meth. Or he
may be a consumer. I get that. You like the

(40:05):
pipe raccoons, you know, you never know raccoon hitting that pipe. So,
but buying it, he's got to come from the lady.
He's got to negotiate the price, and she's got to
negotiate the buy.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Okay, And that makes sense, except do we really know?
Do we really know who chewing the raccoon knows? Do
we know if he's not part of some sort of
syndicate we don't know?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Maybe yeah, well yeah, maybe he knows a lab in
which he gets it. From sneaks in and gets it
from Now, maybe the raccoon can get it from the lab.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
He's a raccoon. Maybe he goes in and steals it. Yeah,
put it in her car and was actually smoking it
while she was driving. Do you think she has any
case here? Do you think in any way anyone will
believe that the myth belonged to the raccoon and not her. Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
No, first of all, And secondly, do you think that's
the case. He tried to make that the raccoon. It's
the raccoon's myth, not mine. I think that's our only shot.
That's all she's got, right.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
It wouldn't me. It was the raccoon Chewy, by the way,
according to the story, and thank god Chewye was uninjured.
But obviously Chew's addicted to myths.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So what's gonna Sewy? Uh, poor Chewie. Yeah, what's what's
gonna hurt? Chewy's going down that wrong road? Damn Chewy
Chewy and rehab.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right this hour? Oh, we're giving away the Burke
Williams gift card this hour. All right, keep that in mind.
David Vassil joined us live from Phoenix at one thirty
when we come back, our good friends always funny. Gary
and Shannon from KFI

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