June 10, 2025 • 41 mins
It wasnt pretty but the Dodgers beat the Padres in 10 innings last night. Could the end be near for Michael Conforto? There seems to be a narrative that the Clippers got fleeced in the SGA for Paul George trade. Fred and Rodney explain why that isnt necessarily the case and context matters
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
AM five to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour
program for us today during the two o'clock hour down
to San Diego, we go to talk with David Vasse
and Rodney hot To like the opener last night.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Living up to the hype, Fred, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I loved it. Back and forth. Every time the Dodgers scored,
the Padres matched it. I thought it was a great
back and forth against with two heavyweights, two heavyweights not
only in the NL West, but heavyweights in Major League Baseball.
So and the players came out to play, Fred, and
I thought they had some big moments from some guys
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that they need to get going, and it was good
to see. I'm glad they got the first one because
we all know how that place can be when they
get it going and they feel like they've got any
kind of momentum. So I'm glad the Dodgers took the
first one. Tanner Scott came in, got the save.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He's back, pretty back.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Please come on, when's the last time a closer won
the saw Young? I think this is his year. He
is back, baby, I won't hear anything other than that.
But I loved after the game, they asked, is this
a rivalry? Tanner Scot just out here, Yes, it's a rivalry.
He just got here. Those are our you know, those
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are our rivals. This is a rivalry. He pitched for
them last year. Now he's pitching for the Dodgers. I
thought that he knows more.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Right, he's been on both teams, So wouldn't he wouldn't
he be a very good person to ask that question?
And he answered it. You know, he's played for the Padres,
you know how the Padres feel about the Dodgers, and
now he's with the Dodgers, and know how the Dodgers
feel about the Padres.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So he's in a perfect position to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So anyway, he was thrilled with the fact that it
was a rivalry, and he did pick up the save,
which made it even more impressive. Last night, Uh, Dustin
May five inning, six hits, by earned run, struck out
one walk for that was not a great outing for
Dustin May.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Rodney.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, it didn't look like he had his stuff right.
I mean, he made some big pitches when he had to.
But you know, as they were saying, on the broadcast,
Sweeper was kind of flat. It just he didn't have
the normal pop and things. He wasn't quite hitting his
spots as well, which in turn allowed him to put
the barrel on the ball quite a bit yesterday. So no,
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it wasn't his best outing. But the best part is
that the Dodgers hanging hung in there and found a
way to keep bouncing back and get that win. I
thought it was a big, big, gigantic wind for him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
What did you think overall about the crowd and the.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Atmosphere there, It's it's a great atmosphere. I don't know
if you've ever been down to a game down there,
it's it's a it's a fantastic atmosphere. And then when
you when you add the Dodgers come into town, it
just makes it even worse. What I was impressed with,
because we talked about it yesterday, how a lot of
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the you know, the Padre fans are upset that with
so many Dodger fans coming down and you know they're
they're putting pressure on season ticket holders not to sell
your tickets, and they don't sell their tickets to Dodge fan.
All that kind of stuff going on yet there was
still a lot of Dodger fans in that stadium last night.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Oh my god, not even a question. And what'd you
think overall though, of the Padres and their fans and uh,
just the overall excitement and energy of that game, because
I have to tell you, that's how you want your
fan base to be.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You want them ruckus, you want them crazy, you want
them into it. Then they're on their feet, you know.
And I think that it's really a testimonial to the
product that they put on the field for the last
five years, and people are excited about them. They they
I think each year it gets closer and closer for them,
feeling like this is our year, this is our chance,
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this is the time we're going to go over to
get it over the top, And so the crowd reflects that.
But yeah, it was you know, I hate to use
this so often like a cliche. It's a playoff atmosphere
to hear that all the time. But certainly the electricity
that was in that air was different than just a
normal baseball game in June.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Though I agree with you. I mean, the place was nuts,
So let's put it like that. And I think that's
what emphasizes the fact that this has become a rivalry.
I think that's what pretty much cements it. When you
get that kind of emotion from a crowd at a game,
it can really make a difference. Dave Roberts said afterwards, Rodney, looking,
it was kind of ugly, but we won. Those fans
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walked away deflated, and you know, if you're a Dodger fan,
what more do you want? What more do you possibly want?
You want them to walk away completely and totally deflated,
and that's exactly what they were.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, Yeah, which is why getting the first one is
so important, Fred, because you want to set the tone
for the series. Everybody's been anticipating this series coming up,
and it was kind of amazing that they haven't played
each other yet this year, and now that they did,
it was a build up for both of these teams.
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They're going to be neck and neck, and they're probably
going to be neck and neck all season long, it
looks that way. So for the Dodgers to get the
first one was fantastic. But yeah, this is this is
a matchup that that a lot of people believe that
we're gonna see later in the season as well in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and we probably will because if you look at it,
what teams are genuinely better? And again, Dodger pants, I
asked you to consider this. If the Dodgers don't suffer
the injuries they've suffered, they would not be this close
to the Padres. They wouldn't. And if the Padres had
suffered the kind of injuries the Dodgers have, so there
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is no way they would be remotely as close to
the Dodgers. So this is a testament as they begin
this series to the Dodgers' strength and numbers and the
depth in their organization. I mean, let's be honest, Dustin
made him look good last night. Dylan Seese didn't look
much better. Everybody loves Dylan Cees. Everybody thinks Dylan Cees
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is great. I think he's very average. Sorry I do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Who's everybody who thinks he's great?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh my god? When they traded for us, Dylan ceased.
And even last year when he was going to face
the Dodgers in the playoffs, they've got Dylan Ceese on
the mound. I'm thinking Dylan Sees. I saw that guy
get jacked when he was with a white Sox. So
you know to me, wait, Fred, you.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Saw him get Jack when he was with the White Sox,
so that means he's not a good picture.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I didn't say he's not a good picture.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm just saying you can say that about everybody, every
picture in the league. I saw Garrett Cole get jacked
by Boston Red Sox. Yeah, well Garrett calls get Jack
by so and so Washington National.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Garrett Garrett call has a bigger it will work, let's
be honest. And Dylan Cees, you know, I saw him,
and I remember even the Dodgers were interested in him,
and I thought, he's fine, He's fine, but I don't
think he's the cy young, stop it win it all guy.
And they got to him last night, and that just
kind of confirms it. So neither Pitcher was great early on,
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or you could argue both teams were making contact early on,
but truly, when it was all said and done, the
Dodgers just had more perseverance last night because it was close,
it was tight. It could have gone either way, and
that's why I think, as you pointed out, Rodney, it
was really important to get that one. It was tight,
went down to the end. They figured out a way
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to win. If you're gonna win, you gotta win that
one because if you lose that one, it puts it
in a kind of a mentally a bad place.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And you know you're gonna very likely could come out
of this series if it goes one way or another
with it's not going to be a commanding lead. But
if the Dodgers, say, gets swept and the Padres take
over the lead, I mean it's that close, and it
will be that close in the division. So when you
have these head to head games and these head to
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head series, important to win them. And the way to
do that is jump out on that in that first
game and again for this game to go to extra innings.
And you're right, the offense outweighed the defense and the
pitching last night on both sides. Both sides got some
big time hits when they needed it and hence the
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extra innings. And then the Dodgers came through in the
extra innings.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Which was great.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So I expect it to be the same way today
and the next day.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I think Dodger fans do as well. One interesting
sidelight came out of that and when I run it
this morning, Bob Nightingale wrote it, Rodney, I thought this
is an ominous site. The Dodgers are now scouring Major
League Baseball for a left hand power hitter. Bot Nightingale
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been on the show many times, reputable, credible, talks to
people on the inside throughout baseball. The Dodgers are now
looking for a left handed power hitter. Okay, your first
reaction to that, and then I'll tell your mine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It doesn't surprise me, you know, with the struggles of Conforto,
which they brought him in to be specifically that left
handed bat, consistent bat in the lineup, and he hasn't.
He hasn't delivered. He's in fact struggled this whole year.
So it doesn't surprise me that at the at the
deadline they're looking for another left handed bat. Now, that
doesn't chock me at all, because you're going to need that.
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As the way the Dodgers play and interchange their lineup
and do matchups and things like that, you have to
have the flexibility to go righty lefty if they choose
the other team chooses to go with a particular arm
to attack your lineup, and if you're loaded on the
right side, and then all you got to see is right,
he's right, he's right, he's right, he's writing. So you
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want to be able to mix it up and have
the option either pinch it or have that guy in
the lineup that changes his up. And it's not just
Max Munsey and Freddie Freeman as left handed bats.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, I agree with all of that, but it told
me one other thing. You touched on it. I'll I'll
elaborate on it. Michael Conforto's in trouble. That's what it
told me. They brought him in to be that he
was supposed to be Tailor Hernandez. One year deal, I
believe seventeen million. Come in here, get right. It's the
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old Dodger get right deal. We know you can do it.
You get in here, just being around us, we're like
rabbit's feet rubb us. You're gonna get better and we're
going to work with you and if there's something that's wrong,
we'll get it turned around. And then after the season, sure,
we'd love to keep you if you've had a great year,
and if not, you're more valuable. Go out and get
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your money. That's kind of the Dodger of philosophy, so
they got believe in it from the beginning, and they did.
They believed in him. But now the concern is that
he has not performed, he is not hitting. And that
being said, when Bob Nightingale writes we're looking they're looking
for a left handed bat, that's the bat they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But you're not shocked, right, I mean even said this
for a month, that he's struggling and he's in trouble,
and we had who do we have on we had
was it Jack Arrision on the other day that talked
about he had seen enough of Conforto. I don't even
see anymore. Dodge's got to go do something. So this
is not a shock. I mean, you get through April
and May and the part of June and the guy
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you brought in to be that big left handed bat
has not only not performed, but really been not so
great at all and has struggled to hit the ball.
So no, not shocking at all that that they would
go out and be looking in the market for a
left handed hitter.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I gotta be honest with you, and maybe you weren't.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I was really surprised when they let Austin Barnes and
they dfaid him. When that happened, I thought, well, Chris
Taylor can't be far behind, and then they did that.
But now with Confordo, they could do that with him too.
I'm sure they tried to move him if they could.
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But that could be three players this year. That's how
serious this is to them. This year. That could be
three players. But they just dfad and they go out
and get what they need.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They're looking at the future.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Mean, look, you know Dalton Rushing, they have the eye
on him for a long long time and it was
just a matter of time before he moved up and
that meant the end for Frostin Barnes because.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Of what you know.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They're looking to him as a future in the backup
for Will Smith and in the present. But his bat
and his offense is superior to Austin Barnes. So you know,
it was just a matter of time with that one.
And then Chris Taylors, his struggles, you know, have been
last lasting for about a year, a year and two months,
a year and a half almost, and so it's although
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it being a tough decision because those guys helped you
accomplish a lot during their time here. Sometimes you have
to you have to move on. And you know, they
still got to find that that left handed bat that's
gonna work. And I don't know if they you know,
if you're trying to trade CONFORDO at deadline, who's who's
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what kind of takers are you going to get? Right
because of the struggles that he's that he's had, so
you might.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Have to bite the bullet on that. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, they're not opposed, they're not opposed to spending money.
But this is one that kind of catches me off guard.
I never thought that he would be a guy they
would do that too, because when they signed him, they
thought he is going to be Tailor Hernandez. Not exactly,
but I mean, you know what I mean, that guy,
We found another one and this is the guy. So
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I think that'll be very interesting to keep an eye on. Okay,
you can have it both ways. You can't. It can't
look good, then look bad and we'll talk about it.
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Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, come on, it is Tuesday, and I will say,
Freddie before we go forward. It is a very very
very very special Tuesday. I must say it is my
thirtieth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Toll. Yes, Yes, thirty years.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Fretchi put up with me for thirty years and I
cannot believe it, but yes, we are still going, still going.
So congratulations to my wife for landing me, acquiring me. Yes,
big up for her for that foresight to lock down
a a catch like me.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Fred to give her props. I got to give her props.
That's that's gonna go early. You know what, Listen, I
can't tell you how to live your life. You've been
married thirty years. You know your wife Holly very well.
But I would just make a suggestion, yes, and you know,
for next year, taking the spirit which it's intended Rodney,
I don't think I would come out and go I
just want to say something my beautiful, loving wife. I
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want to wish her a very happy anniversary. That was
a good thing to say. Yes, as it continued on
with I'm glad she had the foresight to pick someone
like me. Probably, you know what, it kind of veered
off a little bit. I'm just saying I took a
little turn, a.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Little too much, the wrong turn there. Fred.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's just kind of you were you know, you were
cruising to happiness and then you made a left into
a into a ditch.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Understand you guys, you just can't can't help himself. You
know them all, You know those guys, you know you
get into a conversation with them and you just want
them to or they're in an interview, just be quiet.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It's okay, that's enough. Put a button on it, put
a period, Land a plane, land a plane, and then
they keep going. And it's like everything he said, everything
he just said is out the window. Now, it's all
screwed up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's over. You have you done an interview in your
life where that's happened. It's like you should have you
should have stopped there, but you continued on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I I I know I have, I just I just
can't think of the the specifics of it just yet.
But I do remember a few times where I should
have shut up and and and these were all all
times when I was when I was playing, so it
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didn't really happen a whole lot after that.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But when I was.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Playing, and you know, you remember me telling you the
stories in Philadelphia how difficult the media was there. You could,
you know, have a great game and they would pick
out the one bad play and that's what they The
first question would be, Yeah, there were a few times
where probably should have let some things go, and uh
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saw that that particular individual in the crowd, and I
just had to say something and and a few times
regretted it. I can't, I can't, but I know I've
done that. I know I've done that. So I'm acknowledging that,
and at some point I will remember the specifics of that,
but yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Have you, I'm sure I have. You know what the
problem is if someone is interviewing you, So, I mean,
obviously you were interviewed your whole life as a as
an athlete, as a player, and I've been interviewed. I've
usually conducted the interviews, but I've been interviewed a few
times for features and things like that. And it's an
interesting technique and I never really thought of it till
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we sat here right here right now. What happens, you know,
somebody's gonna ask you a question, and what people probably
don't get. It's like, when you're gonna conduct an interview,
you don't give the person you're interviewing a list of questions.
Here's a list of questions, so I'm gonna ask him
in order, so you know, if the first question was, well,
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how's your day, and then Rodney says, well, I just
murdered for it. People, you don't go to question two
and what's your knife look like? You know what I mean?
So interviews are conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But that happens a lot, right, I mean, in your world,
and you've done it for a long long time. And
I've noticed this with a lot of people. And I've
actually played games unfortunately, and it was just bad in
that way, played games with certain interviewers that either either
kind of rubbed me the wrong way or you know,
they just were out of their league, and why are
you asking me these questions? But play with them and
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see if they actually were listening to my answer instead
of looking at their list of questions going Okay, we're
gonna go from one to one to seven and I'm
gonna answer ask them and I'm not even gonna listen
to the answer. So, yeah, I heard a couple times
I would just give off the wall answers and see
if they were actually listening. And oftentimes they they weren't,
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And so I just kept going until they stopped me.
Until they stopped me. See, I would start talking gibberish, Yes,
the rabbit is in the barn, and then uh, you
know when the pigs came home and blah blah blah,
and and they would go, oh, fantastic, Okay, so next
next play when you guys would do it? I just
hear what I just said. But oftentimes, guys, you know,
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people don't listen. They don't listen to the answer because,
like you said, if they give you an answer, that's
wait a minute, this is this is a record scratcher.
Hold on, I got to do a follow up to this.
He just he just said what and but there are
a lot of people out there that that will go
right past that. Yeah, interviews are conversations. So when do
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you find yourself in a situation where you probably should
have stopped but kept going and ultimately said too much?
When does that happen during an interview? Here's when you're
having a conversation. I ask you a question, Rodney, you answer,
and I just stare at you. I just stare at you, like,
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and what else.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And what you do? It's a technique you use, and
oftentimes the people sitting there will go, oh, maybe I
should have said more.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, so you know, maybe I should have continued this
fart baiting him. You're baiting him, And now you just
kind of sit there and go right, but you don't
say anything else. You wait for them to say something else.
And when you do that, what happens. Yeah, they start talking,
they start talking.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They carry it a step too far, and that's where
you get the good stuff, seriously good stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, because people hate awkward silences, right. They don't want
to be silent. They feel like they should be talking
or somebody should be talking, especially in an interview. And yeah,
I've had those moments too. It's like did I not
explain myself the right way?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Or did I?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And so I've done that where I've kept going and
it's like, wait a minute, I'm rambling. Let me just
shut up right now, I'm just saying the same thing
over and over again. But yeah, yeah, that's grazy, that's
that's uh, that's a veteran move, Fred. When I'm sure
you've done it to some of the young kids out there,
people that haven't been interviewed a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Just got to get them.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Hit them with that pause, and they just keep on,
tell you their life story and probably tell you too much.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Just keep going, all right. So write an article and
it was about, say, Shay Gilders Alexander and of course
he's going to lead I think everybody pretty much agrees
Oklahoma City to the NBA title. Indiana will have something
to say about that. And the Pacers did win a game,
but in the second game, I think the thunder kind
of imposed their will. All right. So now you think
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back to Shay Gilgess Alexander SGA. Where'd he come from? Well,
he came from the Clippers. So now if you just
look at the fact that he came from the Clippers,
now he's the MVP of the league and he's going
to lead them to a title. You think to yourself,
what were the Clippers thinking? What were the Clippers thinking?
How did you let a guy like that go? Keep
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in mind, Jerry West, when he was working with the
Clippers selected SGA. That was the guy he wanted. I
don't know what this was with Jerry West, but man,
he could identify talent. Yeah, he really had a skill
at that and he would see things in guys that
no one else would see. But I'm saying a good
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player that can be a great player, right, look and
say this guy's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, but he saw that difference, right, that X factor
whatever you want to call it, that little something and
a player like a Kobe and like SGA that is like,
wait a minute, he's got a little something. Was I'm
seeing something that everybody's not seeing, and that's the guy
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I want.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's the guy. Not everybody has that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And Jerry had that, which, like you mentioned, it was
was amazing and it wasn't from a good player for
a bad player. It was really good players to a
superstar and he could pick him out of a lineup.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He just had that skill. So then you say, this
guy was Jerry picked, handpicked by Jerry West, and Jerry
West really knew what he was doing, so this guy
could have start to sprinkled on him. Why in the
world would you trade it? Why would you make that move?
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And the part of the article is day by day,
week by week, season by season, it looks like just
a worse move by the Clippers. Each go round. But
then you have to be honest, and I think that's
a bit of revisionist history. And I also think that
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you're not giving credit where credit is due. If you remember,
the Clippers were trying to sign Kawhi Leonard. Yep, Kawhi
told them you don't have enough. He was just up front,
you don't have enough. And they said, okay, well what's
going to put this over the top? And he gave
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them some names. One of those names was Paul George.
So to get Kawhi Leonard, which in their mind and
I think rightfully so, and this is where you have
to be honest. Rightfully, So, to get Kawhi Leonard, they
had to get Paul George. And they did what they
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needed to do to get him at that time and
at that time, and yes, they gave up draft picks
and they gave up SGA. At that time, there was
not one person on the planet that would have said,
oh my god, what have the Clippers done. It was,
oh my god, what have the Clippers done?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is great Kawhi Leonard, Oh my god. Yes. Remember
when they did make that trade.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
SGA, it was after SGA's rookie season, right, so he
had had a pretty good and promising rookie season. But
if you're saying other than Jerry West, if you're saying
you knew he was going to be this, yeah, I
don't think you're being truthful. You knew he's going to
be pretty good, and he was a star, and he
had a like I said, a good rookie season, but
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turning into leading score in the league, MVP of the league,
you know, dominating the way he's done it in a smooth,
smooth way, never out of control. Are you being truthful
that you knew he was going to be this when
the Clippers traded him, Well, you had a chance to
get Paul George to play with Kawhi Leonard. You're like,
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we're going to make that move one hundred days out
of one hundred days. They don't tell me now because
he is the MVP, Like, why did you do that?
Because at that time it was the right move to make.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah. Now, and you say, well, what if he was
that good when they were going to make the trade,
What if he was that good, Here's what I'd say.
Kawhi Leonard would have said, I can play with him,
no problem. You don't have to trade and you don't
have to go get Paul George. You already have the
other guy and he's already on your team. So it's unfair.
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And also I think it is disingenuous to do that
to the Clippers. All they want to do is when
Steve Baba wants to do is win. They've increased their footprint,
they built their new arena, but it's a heavy lift.
They've not won a title. That's all he wants. He
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throws more money into that organization than he should. Quite honestly,
he throws more money at the Clippers than he probably should,
just the structure and the infrastructure in the organization, the arena.
Then he bought the forum. He doesn't scrimp, he's not cheap,
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and everybody loves them.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
That guy's the largest staff in NBA right in terms
of scouting and management. You know, spend more money there
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He wants to win. And I respect back then, Lawrence Frank,
I think Michael Winter was there. I respect the fact
that they went for it. Did it work?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I mean, did we know they were both going to
get hurt like this? No? But boyd on, when that
moment came and they pulled the trigger, there wasn't a
person in the NBA. They didn't think, my god, the
Clippers could win the title. The Clippers could win it all. Now,
for what three years in a row, they were favorite
to win the West. You had got those two. You
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had to do it. You had no choice. It was gutsy,
it was ballsy, and it was the right thing to do.
So it's unfair to turn around and go, my god.
Every day that one looks worse because if they hadn't
done that, guess what, they'd still be terrible. They still
would have been clinging, They still would have been on
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the outside looking in. When they signed Kawhi Leonard and
got Paul George, they became a legitimate threat and it
showed they could be a destination for players. And before
Kawhi Leonard, would you consider the Clippers a great destinations
a free agent? Probably? Not. All of a sudden that
changed and then Paul George showed up. So be critical
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if you want, but I think it's very unfair. And
if you would not have made the same move at
that time, then I think there's something wrong with you.
You would have been a bad executive, You would have
been a bad team owner. If you had not pulled
the trigger on a move like that, Rodney.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean you you look up and Paul George had
already done with Paul George's done, and you're you're looking
at it if we get both those guys on the
same team. And remember, you know, the Lakers had lebron right,
and the Lakers were making this move, and as the
Clippers and the new owner, they went to him.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And with the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Pressure of the rest of the city, Well, you've got
the Dodgers and you know the Rams are going for it,
and you don't do that as one of the teams
in this city, then that's a but that's an easy
way to turn off your fan base. And so everybody
showed me one person that didn't think that was a
great move at the time, and I wouldn't believe the
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words coming out of the mouth.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Two o'clock hour, David Bassey will join us from San
Diego and top of the hour, does a Dodger win
over the podres last night mean just a little more?
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Speaker 5 (31:36):
All right and now from the Court to the court
Room with Jacob em Rani.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All right, now our weekly chat with a good friend
Jacob em Roanni and Jacob. How are you today?
Speaker 7 (31:48):
I'm doing wonderful.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
How are you guys doing well? Jacob? Well, you know,
when you come on, I always like to hear about
the cases that went sideways or were odd or the bizarre.
Uh any no one's poppingto mind today because then I'm
gonna ask you about another one.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, you know, I think you know, we uh, you know,
have the pleasure sometimes that I would say, a displeasure
of hearing about people who have been you know, badly,
you know, injured, and one of the most common type
of injuries. Not really the topic we were going to
talk about today is that it's amazing how many buildings,
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you know, where people live, how many apartment buildings are
not kept up. I can't tell you how often I
have clients who call us they're going up the stairs,
you know, in their apartment complex. They're coming down, and
they put their foot and it goes through one of
the stairs or the railings come off. And unfortunately, like
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we've talked about before, you know, people falling and hitting
the ground, whether it's from a slip and fall or
a trip and fall, you really have, you know, you
don't have much protection. And you know, one of the
cases we're working on right now is actually somebody who
was making a delivery, you know, they were working as
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a delivery person, delivering a package, and they walked into
one of these complexes and as they were going up
the stairs, they put their foot and their foot literally
went through one of the stairs that had been so
poorly kept. He obviously ended up falling back. He hit
his head, had to have both knee and shoulder surgery.
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But the problem in those situations for a law firm is,
this is an individual who what we call is an invitee,
comes onto the premises in order to deliver a package.
He has a right to be there, but then when
he gets there and ends up getting injured, most of
these apartment complexes no longer have a manager, no longer
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have somebody there to answer to. So the person is
pushed on a goose chase trying to find out through
all of these LLCs and different you know, holding companies
about who even owns these properties. A lot of these
properties are being you know, owned by foreign investors. We
find ourselves having to file lawsuits locally, but having to
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go to France and try to serve somebody just to
take their depots. So, you know, the law is becoming
more and more entangled in our area because even when
you think it's as simple as somebody you know, getting injured,
because you know, an apartment complex was not up kept,
after it gets into our hands, hopefully gets into our
hands early enough, we have to do a lot of
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work just to you know, get the right person to
stand up and answer for this.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's crazy, Jacob, You know why why has it been
so lapsed? You would think that each one of these
buildings have to be up to a certain code and
there should be departments that make sure that that happens.
Mean much like a restaurant that has to be up
to a certain code. But you're saying these buildings because
there's no manager there, or it's owned by a foreign entity,
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it's difficult to track the people responsible down.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
You know the crazy thing about it is most of
the people, unfortunately that live in some of these places,
if they complain, they're being threatened to be evicted. And
I'm not a landlord tenant attorney and I don't know
the laws when it comes to that. But we had
a seventy eight year old lady who called us last week.
Such a nice lady, she says, Oh, I've been a
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big fan of yours, who's so complimentative. But she had
gone into her shower and while she was showering, a
piece of the roof fell on top of her head,
and it was the people on top. I guess they
were taking a shower and the water was not going through.
But what was crazy is she said the moment she complained,
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she was given a three day notice. And you know,
most of the individual living in these type of places,
they don't have access to an attorney. They don't have
anybody who's going to go fight for them. So the
only thing that happens is, you know, they're in a
courtroom and they're being and they're being evicted. And you know,
as much as we would think that there are building
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and safety inspectors going out there, we both know that
it's not in every community and they're not really out
there doing that as much. So then what happens when
someone gets injured if they don't have the knowledge. And
that's why you know you talk about attorneys on billboards
or attorneys being on TV. You know, I'm there because
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I want everybody from every different type of you know,
financial sort of status, to have access to be able
to call us if they need help. We work on
a contingency because we want everybody to have access, and unfortunately,
most people in those communities or neighborhoods just don't have access,
so they have nobody to go to, so they have
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to stay quiet and continue to live. And these really
really badly kept you know, apartment buildings and or you know,
single unit apartments. It's just it's just really really sad
and tough. But most people don't necessarily know their rights
the way maybe you know, the three of us, you know, would.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Know, all right, Jacob, Well, and we haven't even done
the topic yet today, but that was good. I just
like when you talk about stuff you know that you
you have experienced and what your clients have gone through,
because I think that really touches a lot of the
audience and is really informative. And what we do want
to talk to is our talk about is trucking accidents.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Today.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's the thing. There seems to be an increase in these.
Am I missing it.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
It's crazy, It's just nuts. I mean, I don't know
whether you know everyone experiences. I seem to find myself
driving on the freeway next to a lot more you know,
eighteen wheelers or a lot more of these commercial trucks.
And you know, in the old days, it's interesting in
the back of the truck would say, uh, call this
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phone number if you think I'm driving correctly, and they'd
have a number on there. But I have to tell
you half the time, these bigger trucks, even when I'm driving,
they feel like they own the road. You know, they're
driving in your lane, they're moving around. And unfortunately, we
at least at our firm, have seen a big uptick
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in those type of accidents. And those accidents people say, oh,
it's all an accident, it's two cars hitting each other,
what difference does it make. Well, we're dealing with companies,
and those companies are very high, highly protected by the
insurance company. The insurance policies are high, so they're going
to fight a lot harder. And you know, we've been
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blessed enough to get some incredible results for our clients
just because of the fact that when a client understands
that you don't win when you go up against a
big company. We go up against big insurance companies every day.
But when an actual person who's involved in an accident
with a business truck, you know, whether it's a big
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tractor trailer, whether it's a work truck, you see the sign,
you see it's a business. Most of the time, they're
trying to get from one place to another under a
time constraint. Most of the time, when we get those
calls up front and we know that, you know, we're
going to be in for a fight, we take a
different approach. We look at the case differently from the beginning.
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If a client needs to, you know, have certain specialists scene,
instead of waiting a year, year and a half like
some other firms do, we try to hire those people
within the first you know, three to six months. Just
the strategy is a little different. And you know, you know,
right now, with everything happening with the tariffs, there's a
lot of businesses that are in the you know, that
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are under those that are not doing very very well.
So from my knowledge, they're cutting a lot of their employees.
They're cutting a lot of truck drivers. So now you,
as a truck driver have to make three times three
times as many deliveries, so you're under time constraints. So
there's a lot of stuff out there, guys, that affect
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your everyday driving. And it's just important for our listeners
just to understand that if they are ever involved in
that kind of an accident, even if initially you think
I'm not really that badly injured, I'm just going to
talk to them myself that may not be the best
because when you talk to them and they ask the question,
and the first question is are you injured, most people say, eh,
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I'm all right. I mean, I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That right.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
There is a recorded statement that if in a week
or two you're not feeling well, affects your rights. And
I just feel like the more knowledge our listeners have,
the more information they have, the better it is for
the day that they may need it. I hope none
of them need it, but if you're driving in California,
you're going to need it at some point.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
All right, Jacob is always terrific advice. Thanks so much
for coming on today. You make us smarter every week.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I appreciate you, guys. Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Devid, I joined us from San Diego during the two
o'clock hour. I just looked at what we're going to
talk about later on in the one o'clock hour about ozampic.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Uh huh, it ain't what you think of morning.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
It ain't what you think it is that's coming up
later on during the one o'clock hour. And uh does
that mean more? Now? Dodgers beating the Padres last night.
Let's get into it.
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
AM five to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour
program for us today during the two o'clock hour down
to San Diego, we go to talk with David Vasse
and Rodney hot To like the opener last night.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Living up to the hype, Fred, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I loved it. Back and forth. Every time the Dodgers scored,
the Padres matched it. I thought it was a great
back and forth against with two heavyweights, two heavyweights not
only in the NL West, but heavyweights in Major League Baseball.
So and the players came out to play, Fred, and
I thought they had some big moments from some guys
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that they need to get going, and it was good
to see. I'm glad they got the first one because
we all know how that place can be when they
get it going and they feel like they've got any
kind of momentum. So I'm glad the Dodgers took the
first one. Tanner Scott came in, got the save.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He's back, pretty back.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Please come on, when's the last time a closer won
the saw Young? I think this is his year. He
is back, baby, I won't hear anything other than that.
But I loved after the game, they asked, is this
a rivalry? Tanner Scot just out here, Yes, it's a rivalry.
He just got here. Those are our you know, those
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are our rivals. This is a rivalry. He pitched for
them last year. Now he's pitching for the Dodgers. I
thought that he knows more.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Right, he's been on both teams, So wouldn't he wouldn't
he be a very good person to ask that question?
And he answered it. You know, he's played for the Padres,
you know how the Padres feel about the Dodgers, and
now he's with the Dodgers, and know how the Dodgers
feel about the Padres.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So he's in a perfect position to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So anyway, he was thrilled with the fact that it
was a rivalry, and he did pick up the save,
which made it even more impressive. Last night, Uh, Dustin
May five inning, six hits, by earned run, struck out
one walk for that was not a great outing for
Dustin May.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Rodney.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, it didn't look like he had his stuff right.
I mean, he made some big pitches when he had to.
But you know, as they were saying, on the broadcast,
Sweeper was kind of flat. It just he didn't have
the normal pop and things. He wasn't quite hitting his
spots as well, which in turn allowed him to put
the barrel on the ball quite a bit yesterday. So no,
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it wasn't his best outing. But the best part is
that the Dodgers hanging hung in there and found a
way to keep bouncing back and get that win. I
thought it was a big, big, gigantic wind for him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
What did you think overall about the crowd and the.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Atmosphere there, It's it's a great atmosphere. I don't know
if you've ever been down to a game down there,
it's it's a it's a fantastic atmosphere. And then when
you when you add the Dodgers come into town, it
just makes it even worse. What I was impressed with,
because we talked about it yesterday, how a lot of
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the you know, the Padre fans are upset that with
so many Dodger fans coming down and you know they're
they're putting pressure on season ticket holders not to sell
your tickets, and they don't sell their tickets to Dodge fan.
All that kind of stuff going on yet there was
still a lot of Dodger fans in that stadium last night.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Oh my god, not even a question. And what'd you
think overall though, of the Padres and their fans and uh,
just the overall excitement and energy of that game, because
I have to tell you, that's how you want your
fan base to be.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You want them ruckus, you want them crazy, you want
them into it. Then they're on their feet, you know.
And I think that it's really a testimonial to the
product that they put on the field for the last
five years, and people are excited about them. They they
I think each year it gets closer and closer for them,
feeling like this is our year, this is our chance,
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this is the time we're going to go over to
get it over the top, And so the crowd reflects that.
But yeah, it was you know, I hate to use
this so often like a cliche. It's a playoff atmosphere
to hear that all the time. But certainly the electricity
that was in that air was different than just a
normal baseball game in June.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Though I agree with you. I mean, the place was nuts,
So let's put it like that. And I think that's
what emphasizes the fact that this has become a rivalry.
I think that's what pretty much cements it. When you
get that kind of emotion from a crowd at a game,
it can really make a difference. Dave Roberts said afterwards, Rodney, looking,
it was kind of ugly, but we won. Those fans
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walked away deflated, and you know, if you're a Dodger fan,
what more do you want? What more do you possibly want?
You want them to walk away completely and totally deflated,
and that's exactly what they were.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, Yeah, which is why getting the first one is
so important, Fred, because you want to set the tone
for the series. Everybody's been anticipating this series coming up,
and it was kind of amazing that they haven't played
each other yet this year, and now that they did,
it was a build up for both of these teams.
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They're going to be neck and neck, and they're probably
going to be neck and neck all season long, it
looks that way. So for the Dodgers to get the
first one was fantastic. But yeah, this is this is
a matchup that that a lot of people believe that
we're gonna see later in the season as well in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and we probably will because if you look at it,
what teams are genuinely better? And again, Dodger pants, I
asked you to consider this. If the Dodgers don't suffer
the injuries they've suffered, they would not be this close
to the Padres. They wouldn't. And if the Padres had
suffered the kind of injuries the Dodgers have, so there
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is no way they would be remotely as close to
the Dodgers. So this is a testament as they begin
this series to the Dodgers' strength and numbers and the
depth in their organization. I mean, let's be honest, Dustin
made him look good last night. Dylan Seese didn't look
much better. Everybody loves Dylan Cees. Everybody thinks Dylan Cees
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is great. I think he's very average. Sorry I do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Who's everybody who thinks he's great?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh my god? When they traded for us, Dylan ceased.
And even last year when he was going to face
the Dodgers in the playoffs, they've got Dylan Ceese on
the mound. I'm thinking Dylan Sees. I saw that guy
get jacked when he was with a white Sox. So
you know to me, wait, Fred, you.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Saw him get Jack when he was with the White Sox,
so that means he's not a good picture.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I didn't say he's not a good picture.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm just saying you can say that about everybody, every
picture in the league. I saw Garrett Cole get jacked
by Boston Red Sox. Yeah, well Garrett calls get Jack
by so and so Washington National.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Garrett Garrett call has a bigger it will work, let's
be honest. And Dylan Cees, you know, I saw him,
and I remember even the Dodgers were interested in him,
and I thought, he's fine, He's fine, but I don't
think he's the cy young, stop it win it all guy.
And they got to him last night, and that just
kind of confirms it. So neither Pitcher was great early on,
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or you could argue both teams were making contact early on,
but truly, when it was all said and done, the
Dodgers just had more perseverance last night because it was close,
it was tight. It could have gone either way, and
that's why I think, as you pointed out, Rodney, it
was really important to get that one. It was tight,
went down to the end. They figured out a way
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to win. If you're gonna win, you gotta win that
one because if you lose that one, it puts it
in a kind of a mentally a bad place.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And you know you're gonna very likely could come out
of this series if it goes one way or another
with it's not going to be a commanding lead. But
if the Dodgers, say, gets swept and the Padres take
over the lead, I mean it's that close, and it
will be that close in the division. So when you
have these head to head games and these head to
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head series, important to win them. And the way to
do that is jump out on that in that first
game and again for this game to go to extra innings.
And you're right, the offense outweighed the defense and the
pitching last night on both sides. Both sides got some
big time hits when they needed it and hence the
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extra innings. And then the Dodgers came through in the
extra innings.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Which was great.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So I expect it to be the same way today
and the next day.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I think Dodger fans do as well. One interesting
sidelight came out of that and when I run it
this morning, Bob Nightingale wrote it, Rodney, I thought this
is an ominous site. The Dodgers are now scouring Major
League Baseball for a left hand power hitter. Bot Nightingale
(09:03):
been on the show many times, reputable, credible, talks to
people on the inside throughout baseball. The Dodgers are now
looking for a left handed power hitter. Okay, your first
reaction to that, and then I'll tell your mine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It doesn't surprise me, you know, with the struggles of Conforto,
which they brought him in to be specifically that left
handed bat, consistent bat in the lineup, and he hasn't.
He hasn't delivered. He's in fact struggled this whole year.
So it doesn't surprise me that at the at the
deadline they're looking for another left handed bat. Now, that
doesn't chock me at all, because you're going to need that.
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As the way the Dodgers play and interchange their lineup
and do matchups and things like that, you have to
have the flexibility to go righty lefty if they choose
the other team chooses to go with a particular arm
to attack your lineup, and if you're loaded on the
right side, and then all you got to see is right,
he's right, he's right, he's right, he's writing. So you
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want to be able to mix it up and have
the option either pinch it or have that guy in
the lineup that changes his up. And it's not just
Max Munsey and Freddie Freeman as left handed bats.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, I agree with all of that, but it told
me one other thing. You touched on it. I'll I'll
elaborate on it. Michael Conforto's in trouble. That's what it
told me. They brought him in to be that he
was supposed to be Tailor Hernandez. One year deal, I
believe seventeen million. Come in here, get right. It's the
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old Dodger get right deal. We know you can do it.
You get in here, just being around us, we're like
rabbit's feet rubb us. You're gonna get better and we're
going to work with you and if there's something that's wrong,
we'll get it turned around. And then after the season, sure,
we'd love to keep you if you've had a great year,
and if not, you're more valuable. Go out and get
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your money. That's kind of the Dodger of philosophy, so
they got believe in it from the beginning, and they did.
They believed in him. But now the concern is that
he has not performed, he is not hitting. And that
being said, when Bob Nightingale writes we're looking they're looking
for a left handed bat, that's the bat they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But you're not shocked, right, I mean even said this
for a month, that he's struggling and he's in trouble,
and we had who do we have on we had
was it Jack Arrision on the other day that talked
about he had seen enough of Conforto. I don't even
see anymore. Dodge's got to go do something. So this
is not a shock. I mean, you get through April
and May and the part of June and the guy
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you brought in to be that big left handed bat
has not only not performed, but really been not so
great at all and has struggled to hit the ball.
So no, not shocking at all that that they would
go out and be looking in the market for a
left handed hitter.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I gotta be honest with you, and maybe you weren't.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I was really surprised when they let Austin Barnes and
they dfaid him. When that happened, I thought, well, Chris
Taylor can't be far behind, and then they did that.
But now with Confordo, they could do that with him too.
I'm sure they tried to move him if they could.
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But that could be three players this year. That's how
serious this is to them. This year. That could be
three players. But they just dfad and they go out
and get what they need.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They're looking at the future.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Mean, look, you know Dalton Rushing, they have the eye
on him for a long long time and it was
just a matter of time before he moved up and
that meant the end for Frostin Barnes because.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Of what you know.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They're looking to him as a future in the backup
for Will Smith and in the present. But his bat
and his offense is superior to Austin Barnes. So you know,
it was just a matter of time with that one.
And then Chris Taylors, his struggles, you know, have been
last lasting for about a year, a year and two months,
a year and a half almost, and so it's although
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it being a tough decision because those guys helped you
accomplish a lot during their time here. Sometimes you have
to you have to move on. And you know, they
still got to find that that left handed bat that's
gonna work. And I don't know if they you know,
if you're trying to trade CONFORDO at deadline, who's who's
(13:36):
what kind of takers are you going to get? Right
because of the struggles that he's that he's had, so
you might.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Have to bite the bullet on that. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, they're not opposed, they're not opposed to spending money.
But this is one that kind of catches me off guard.
I never thought that he would be a guy they
would do that too, because when they signed him, they
thought he is going to be Tailor Hernandez. Not exactly,
but I mean, you know what I mean, that guy,
We found another one and this is the guy. So
(14:08):
I think that'll be very interesting to keep an eye on. Okay,
you can have it both ways. You can't. It can't
look good, then look bad and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
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Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, come on, it is Tuesday, and I will say,
Freddie before we go forward. It is a very very
very very special Tuesday. I must say it is my
thirtieth wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Toll. Yes, Yes, thirty years.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Fretchi put up with me for thirty years and I
cannot believe it, but yes, we are still going, still going.
So congratulations to my wife for landing me, acquiring me. Yes,
big up for her for that foresight to lock down
a a catch like me.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Fred to give her props. I got to give her props.
That's that's gonna go early. You know what, Listen, I
can't tell you how to live your life. You've been
married thirty years. You know your wife Holly very well.
But I would just make a suggestion, yes, and you know,
for next year, taking the spirit which it's intended Rodney,
I don't think I would come out and go I
just want to say something my beautiful, loving wife. I
(15:41):
want to wish her a very happy anniversary. That was
a good thing to say. Yes, as it continued on
with I'm glad she had the foresight to pick someone
like me. Probably, you know what, it kind of veered
off a little bit. I'm just saying I took a
little turn, a.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Little too much, the wrong turn there. Fred.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's just kind of you were you know, you were
cruising to happiness and then you made a left into
a into a ditch.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Understand you guys, you just can't can't help himself. You
know them all, You know those guys, you know you
get into a conversation with them and you just want
them to or they're in an interview, just be quiet.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It's okay, that's enough. Put a button on it, put
a period, Land a plane, land a plane, and then
they keep going. And it's like everything he said, everything
he just said is out the window. Now, it's all
screwed up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's over. You have you done an interview in your
life where that's happened. It's like you should have you
should have stopped there, but you continued on.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I I I know I have, I just I just
can't think of the the specifics of it just yet.
But I do remember a few times where I should
have shut up and and and these were all all
times when I was when I was playing, so it
(17:02):
didn't really happen a whole lot after that.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But when I was.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Playing, and you know, you remember me telling you the
stories in Philadelphia how difficult the media was there. You could,
you know, have a great game and they would pick
out the one bad play and that's what they The
first question would be, Yeah, there were a few times
where probably should have let some things go, and uh
(17:27):
saw that that particular individual in the crowd, and I
just had to say something and and a few times
regretted it. I can't, I can't, but I know I've
done that. I know I've done that. So I'm acknowledging that,
and at some point I will remember the specifics of that,
but yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Have you, I'm sure I have. You know what the
problem is if someone is interviewing you, So, I mean,
obviously you were interviewed your whole life as a as
an athlete, as a player, and I've been interviewed. I've
usually conducted the interviews, but I've been interviewed a few
times for features and things like that. And it's an
interesting technique and I never really thought of it till
(18:08):
we sat here right here right now. What happens, you know,
somebody's gonna ask you a question, and what people probably
don't get. It's like, when you're gonna conduct an interview,
you don't give the person you're interviewing a list of questions.
Here's a list of questions, so I'm gonna ask him
in order, so you know, if the first question was, well,
(18:29):
how's your day, and then Rodney says, well, I just
murdered for it. People, you don't go to question two
and what's your knife look like? You know what I mean?
So interviews are conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
But that happens a lot, right, I mean, in your world,
and you've done it for a long long time. And
I've noticed this with a lot of people. And I've
actually played games unfortunately, and it was just bad in
that way, played games with certain interviewers that either either
kind of rubbed me the wrong way or you know,
they just were out of their league, and why are
you asking me these questions? But play with them and
(19:02):
see if they actually were listening to my answer instead
of looking at their list of questions going Okay, we're
gonna go from one to one to seven and I'm
gonna answer ask them and I'm not even gonna listen
to the answer. So, yeah, I heard a couple times
I would just give off the wall answers and see
if they were actually listening. And oftentimes they they weren't,
(19:23):
And so I just kept going until they stopped me.
Until they stopped me. See, I would start talking gibberish, Yes,
the rabbit is in the barn, and then uh, you
know when the pigs came home and blah blah blah,
and and they would go, oh, fantastic, Okay, so next
next play when you guys would do it? I just
hear what I just said. But oftentimes, guys, you know,
(19:45):
people don't listen. They don't listen to the answer because,
like you said, if they give you an answer, that's
wait a minute, this is this is a record scratcher.
Hold on, I got to do a follow up to this.
He just he just said what and but there are
a lot of people out there that that will go
right past that. Yeah, interviews are conversations. So when do
(20:06):
you find yourself in a situation where you probably should
have stopped but kept going and ultimately said too much?
When does that happen during an interview? Here's when you're
having a conversation. I ask you a question, Rodney, you answer,
and I just stare at you. I just stare at you, like,
(20:28):
and what else.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And what you do? It's a technique you use, and
oftentimes the people sitting there will go, oh, maybe I
should have said more.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, so you know, maybe I should have continued this
fart baiting him. You're baiting him, And now you just
kind of sit there and go right, but you don't
say anything else. You wait for them to say something else.
And when you do that, what happens. Yeah, they start talking,
they start talking.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They carry it a step too far, and that's where
you get the good stuff, seriously good stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, because people hate awkward silences, right. They don't want
to be silent. They feel like they should be talking
or somebody should be talking, especially in an interview. And yeah,
I've had those moments too. It's like did I not
explain myself the right way?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Or did I?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And so I've done that where I've kept going and
it's like, wait a minute, I'm rambling. Let me just
shut up right now, I'm just saying the same thing
over and over again. But yeah, yeah, that's grazy, that's
that's uh, that's a veteran move, Fred. When I'm sure
you've done it to some of the young kids out there,
people that haven't been interviewed a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Just got to get them.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Hit them with that pause, and they just keep on,
tell you their life story and probably tell you too much.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Just keep going, all right. So write an article and
it was about, say, Shay Gilders Alexander and of course
he's going to lead I think everybody pretty much agrees
Oklahoma City to the NBA title. Indiana will have something
to say about that. And the Pacers did win a game,
but in the second game, I think the thunder kind
of imposed their will. All right. So now you think
(22:14):
back to Shay Gilgess Alexander SGA. Where'd he come from? Well,
he came from the Clippers. So now if you just
look at the fact that he came from the Clippers,
now he's the MVP of the league and he's going
to lead them to a title. You think to yourself,
what were the Clippers thinking? What were the Clippers thinking?
How did you let a guy like that go? Keep
(22:34):
in mind, Jerry West, when he was working with the
Clippers selected SGA. That was the guy he wanted. I
don't know what this was with Jerry West, but man,
he could identify talent. Yeah, he really had a skill
at that and he would see things in guys that
no one else would see. But I'm saying a good
(22:55):
player that can be a great player, right, look and
say this guy's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, but he saw that difference, right, that X factor
whatever you want to call it, that little something and
a player like a Kobe and like SGA that is like,
wait a minute, he's got a little something. Was I'm
seeing something that everybody's not seeing, and that's the guy
(23:22):
I want.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's the guy. Not everybody has that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And Jerry had that, which, like you mentioned, it was
was amazing and it wasn't from a good player for
a bad player. It was really good players to a
superstar and he could pick him out of a lineup.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He just had that skill. So then you say, this
guy was Jerry picked, handpicked by Jerry West, and Jerry
West really knew what he was doing, so this guy
could have start to sprinkled on him. Why in the
world would you trade it? Why would you make that move?
(23:59):
And the part of the article is day by day,
week by week, season by season, it looks like just
a worse move by the Clippers. Each go round. But
then you have to be honest, and I think that's
a bit of revisionist history. And I also think that
(24:19):
you're not giving credit where credit is due. If you remember,
the Clippers were trying to sign Kawhi Leonard. Yep, Kawhi
told them you don't have enough. He was just up front,
you don't have enough. And they said, okay, well what's
going to put this over the top? And he gave
(24:42):
them some names. One of those names was Paul George.
So to get Kawhi Leonard, which in their mind and
I think rightfully so, and this is where you have
to be honest. Rightfully, So, to get Kawhi Leonard, they
had to get Paul George. And they did what they
(25:04):
needed to do to get him at that time and
at that time, and yes, they gave up draft picks
and they gave up SGA. At that time, there was
not one person on the planet that would have said,
oh my god, what have the Clippers done. It was,
oh my god, what have the Clippers done?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is great Kawhi Leonard, Oh my god. Yes. Remember
when they did make that trade.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
SGA, it was after SGA's rookie season, right, so he
had had a pretty good and promising rookie season. But
if you're saying other than Jerry West, if you're saying
you knew he was going to be this, yeah, I
don't think you're being truthful. You knew he's going to
be pretty good, and he was a star, and he
had a like I said, a good rookie season, but
(25:55):
turning into leading score in the league, MVP of the league,
you know, dominating the way he's done it in a smooth,
smooth way, never out of control. Are you being truthful
that you knew he was going to be this when
the Clippers traded him, Well, you had a chance to
get Paul George to play with Kawhi Leonard. You're like,
(26:18):
we're going to make that move one hundred days out
of one hundred days. They don't tell me now because
he is the MVP, Like, why did you do that?
Because at that time it was the right move to make.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah. Now, and you say, well, what if he was
that good when they were going to make the trade,
What if he was that good, Here's what I'd say.
Kawhi Leonard would have said, I can play with him,
no problem. You don't have to trade and you don't
have to go get Paul George. You already have the
other guy and he's already on your team. So it's unfair.
(26:52):
And also I think it is disingenuous to do that
to the Clippers. All they want to do is when
Steve Baba wants to do is win. They've increased their footprint,
they built their new arena, but it's a heavy lift.
They've not won a title. That's all he wants. He
(27:12):
throws more money into that organization than he should. Quite honestly,
he throws more money at the Clippers than he probably should,
just the structure and the infrastructure in the organization, the arena.
Then he bought the forum. He doesn't scrimp, he's not cheap,
(27:33):
and everybody loves them.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
That guy's the largest staff in NBA right in terms
of scouting and management. You know, spend more money there
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
He wants to win. And I respect back then, Lawrence Frank,
I think Michael Winter was there. I respect the fact
that they went for it. Did it work?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I mean, did we know they were both going to
get hurt like this? No? But boyd on, when that
moment came and they pulled the trigger, there wasn't a
person in the NBA. They didn't think, my god, the
Clippers could win the title. The Clippers could win it all. Now,
for what three years in a row, they were favorite
to win the West. You had got those two. You
(28:22):
had to do it. You had no choice. It was gutsy,
it was ballsy, and it was the right thing to do.
So it's unfair to turn around and go, my god.
Every day that one looks worse because if they hadn't
done that, guess what, they'd still be terrible. They still
would have been clinging, They still would have been on
(28:44):
the outside looking in. When they signed Kawhi Leonard and
got Paul George, they became a legitimate threat and it
showed they could be a destination for players. And before
Kawhi Leonard, would you consider the Clippers a great destinations
a free agent? Probably? Not. All of a sudden that
changed and then Paul George showed up. So be critical
(29:10):
if you want, but I think it's very unfair. And
if you would not have made the same move at
that time, then I think there's something wrong with you.
You would have been a bad executive, You would have
been a bad team owner. If you had not pulled
the trigger on a move like that, Rodney.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean you you look up and Paul George had
already done with Paul George's done, and you're you're looking
at it if we get both those guys on the
same team. And remember, you know, the Lakers had lebron right,
and the Lakers were making this move, and as the
Clippers and the new owner, they went to him.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And with the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Pressure of the rest of the city, Well, you've got
the Dodgers and you know the Rams are going for it,
and you don't do that as one of the teams
in this city, then that's a but that's an easy
way to turn off your fan base. And so everybody
showed me one person that didn't think that was a
great move at the time, and I wouldn't believe the
(30:11):
words coming out of the mouth.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Two o'clock hour, David Bassey will join us from San
Diego and top of the hour, does a Dodger win
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Speaker 5 (31:36):
All right and now from the Court to the court
Room with Jacob em Rani.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All right, now our weekly chat with a good friend
Jacob em Roanni and Jacob. How are you today?
Speaker 7 (31:48):
I'm doing wonderful.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
How are you guys doing well? Jacob? Well, you know,
when you come on, I always like to hear about
the cases that went sideways or were odd or the bizarre.
Uh any no one's poppingto mind today because then I'm
gonna ask you about another one.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, you know, I think you know, we uh, you know,
have the pleasure sometimes that I would say, a displeasure
of hearing about people who have been you know, badly,
you know, injured, and one of the most common type
of injuries. Not really the topic we were going to
talk about today is that it's amazing how many buildings,
(32:31):
you know, where people live, how many apartment buildings are
not kept up. I can't tell you how often I
have clients who call us they're going up the stairs,
you know, in their apartment complex. They're coming down, and
they put their foot and it goes through one of
the stairs or the railings come off. And unfortunately, like
(32:52):
we've talked about before, you know, people falling and hitting
the ground, whether it's from a slip and fall or
a trip and fall, you really have, you know, you
don't have much protection. And you know, one of the
cases we're working on right now is actually somebody who
was making a delivery, you know, they were working as
(33:13):
a delivery person, delivering a package, and they walked into
one of these complexes and as they were going up
the stairs, they put their foot and their foot literally
went through one of the stairs that had been so
poorly kept. He obviously ended up falling back. He hit
his head, had to have both knee and shoulder surgery.
(33:34):
But the problem in those situations for a law firm is,
this is an individual who what we call is an invitee,
comes onto the premises in order to deliver a package.
He has a right to be there, but then when
he gets there and ends up getting injured, most of
these apartment complexes no longer have a manager, no longer
(33:56):
have somebody there to answer to. So the person is
pushed on a goose chase trying to find out through
all of these LLCs and different you know, holding companies
about who even owns these properties. A lot of these
properties are being you know, owned by foreign investors. We
find ourselves having to file lawsuits locally, but having to
(34:19):
go to France and try to serve somebody just to
take their depots. So, you know, the law is becoming
more and more entangled in our area because even when
you think it's as simple as somebody you know, getting injured,
because you know, an apartment complex was not up kept,
after it gets into our hands, hopefully gets into our
hands early enough, we have to do a lot of
(34:41):
work just to you know, get the right person to
stand up and answer for this.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's crazy, Jacob, You know why why has it been
so lapsed? You would think that each one of these
buildings have to be up to a certain code and
there should be departments that make sure that that happens.
Mean much like a restaurant that has to be up
to a certain code. But you're saying these buildings because
there's no manager there, or it's owned by a foreign entity,
(35:07):
it's difficult to track the people responsible down.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
You know the crazy thing about it is most of
the people, unfortunately that live in some of these places,
if they complain, they're being threatened to be evicted. And
I'm not a landlord tenant attorney and I don't know
the laws when it comes to that. But we had
a seventy eight year old lady who called us last week.
Such a nice lady, she says, Oh, I've been a
(35:32):
big fan of yours, who's so complimentative. But she had
gone into her shower and while she was showering, a
piece of the roof fell on top of her head,
and it was the people on top. I guess they
were taking a shower and the water was not going through.
But what was crazy is she said the moment she complained,
(35:54):
she was given a three day notice. And you know,
most of the individual living in these type of places,
they don't have access to an attorney. They don't have
anybody who's going to go fight for them. So the
only thing that happens is, you know, they're in a
courtroom and they're being and they're being evicted. And you know,
as much as we would think that there are building
(36:16):
and safety inspectors going out there, we both know that
it's not in every community and they're not really out
there doing that as much. So then what happens when
someone gets injured if they don't have the knowledge. And
that's why you know you talk about attorneys on billboards
or attorneys being on TV. You know, I'm there because
(36:36):
I want everybody from every different type of you know,
financial sort of status, to have access to be able
to call us if they need help. We work on
a contingency because we want everybody to have access, and unfortunately,
most people in those communities or neighborhoods just don't have access,
so they have nobody to go to, so they have
(36:58):
to stay quiet and continue to live. And these really
really badly kept you know, apartment buildings and or you know,
single unit apartments. It's just it's just really really sad
and tough. But most people don't necessarily know their rights
the way maybe you know, the three of us, you know, would.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Know, all right, Jacob, Well, and we haven't even done
the topic yet today, but that was good. I just
like when you talk about stuff you know that you
you have experienced and what your clients have gone through,
because I think that really touches a lot of the
audience and is really informative. And what we do want
to talk to is our talk about is trucking accidents.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Today.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's the thing. There seems to be an increase in these.
Am I missing it.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
It's crazy, It's just nuts. I mean, I don't know
whether you know everyone experiences. I seem to find myself
driving on the freeway next to a lot more you know,
eighteen wheelers or a lot more of these commercial trucks.
And you know, in the old days, it's interesting in
the back of the truck would say, uh, call this
(38:05):
phone number if you think I'm driving correctly, and they'd
have a number on there. But I have to tell
you half the time, these bigger trucks, even when I'm driving,
they feel like they own the road. You know, they're
driving in your lane, they're moving around. And unfortunately, we
at least at our firm, have seen a big uptick
(38:26):
in those type of accidents. And those accidents people say, oh,
it's all an accident, it's two cars hitting each other,
what difference does it make. Well, we're dealing with companies,
and those companies are very high, highly protected by the
insurance company. The insurance policies are high, so they're going
to fight a lot harder. And you know, we've been
(38:49):
blessed enough to get some incredible results for our clients
just because of the fact that when a client understands
that you don't win when you go up against a
big company. We go up against big insurance companies every day.
But when an actual person who's involved in an accident
with a business truck, you know, whether it's a big
(39:09):
tractor trailer, whether it's a work truck, you see the sign,
you see it's a business. Most of the time, they're
trying to get from one place to another under a
time constraint. Most of the time, when we get those
calls up front and we know that, you know, we're
going to be in for a fight, we take a
different approach. We look at the case differently from the beginning.
(39:31):
If a client needs to, you know, have certain specialists scene,
instead of waiting a year, year and a half like
some other firms do, we try to hire those people
within the first you know, three to six months. Just
the strategy is a little different. And you know, you know,
right now, with everything happening with the tariffs, there's a
lot of businesses that are in the you know, that
(39:53):
are under those that are not doing very very well.
So from my knowledge, they're cutting a lot of their employees.
They're cutting a lot of truck drivers. So now you,
as a truck driver have to make three times three
times as many deliveries, so you're under time constraints. So
there's a lot of stuff out there, guys, that affect
(40:13):
your everyday driving. And it's just important for our listeners
just to understand that if they are ever involved in
that kind of an accident, even if initially you think
I'm not really that badly injured, I'm just going to
talk to them myself that may not be the best
because when you talk to them and they ask the question,
and the first question is are you injured, most people say, eh,
(40:36):
I'm all right. I mean, I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That right.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
There is a recorded statement that if in a week
or two you're not feeling well, affects your rights. And
I just feel like the more knowledge our listeners have,
the more information they have, the better it is for
the day that they may need it. I hope none
of them need it, but if you're driving in California,
you're going to need it at some point.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
All right, Jacob is always terrific advice. Thanks so much
for coming on today. You make us smarter every week.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I appreciate you, guys. Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Devid, I joined us from San Diego during the two
o'clock hour. I just looked at what we're going to
talk about later on in the one o'clock hour about ozampic.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Uh huh, it ain't what you think of morning.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
It ain't what you think it is that's coming up
later on during the one o'clock hour. And uh does
that mean more? Now? Dodgers beating the Padres last night.
Let's get into it.
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