June 12, 2025 • 46 mins
The Dodgers took 2 of 3 from San Diego and now get set to face the Giants. Should the Clippers be interested in trading for Kevin Durant?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's get to it, Fred Rogan, and today
Jonas Knox is in for Rodney. Jonas, how are you
hello there?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fred? You look great. Just want to start off the
show by painting the picture for the people listing here
that you look phenomenal per usual.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's very kind of you. How do you like my
shirt today?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I looks great. I mean I personally wouldn't have gone
with that color, but hey, to each their own. I'm
not exactly a fashion guru.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, but what shade would you say? It is?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oo? I mean to me, it's beyond a shade. It's
more of a statement, and the statement is loud and
the statement is in charge.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh I appreciate that. So you think this shirt is
a statement of being loud and in charge, I would yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I mean, listen to me, that makes all the sense
in the world. Like, it's beyond a color scheme, It's
beyond anything like that. There isn't a single piece of
lighting on the planet that could do anything to disrupt
the fact that you own that style. You are that style,
and in fact, because of that, we all should be
in debt to you and your performance coming up throughout
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the show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Today, see That's what I'm talking about. Thank you for
being so kind. By the way, you look terrific. Thank you, Fred,
you really do I love your hat today? I'd you know,
oh please, not even a question, not even a question.
Did you know? How's two pros and a cup.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of Joel doing It's great. We obviously had the show
earlier today and a lot of conversation about NBA finals,
a lot of conversation about the NFL, and we just
keep trucking along. There is no slow time in sports radio.
Just people that maybe adapt to a changing sports landscape
(01:49):
a little bit slow, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, I hear you, I hear you. That makes sense. Yeah,
all right, let's get to the show. How about those
Dodgers yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hey two or three?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Come on, Joan, let's get serious here.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, look, it's hard to get serious because it's,
you know, not a rival. According to some people, that's
not a you know, the the Padres aren't around. I mean,
never mind the fact that Alex Vessi has celebrated like
they had just you know, won a game to save
planet Earth from destruction like they were in the movie
War the World. But no, definitely not a rival and
didn't mean anything to anybody because they're so beneath them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So okay, yeah, you know what I thought, Alex Vessio. See,
I like when guys are organically excited. I don't like
things that are orchestrated. But when he got the final out,
I thought, that's what I'm talking about. That's the genuine
excitement I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, Like, can I ask you a question, how many
years have you been covering Alex Vessia since he's been here? Okay,
have you ever seen him do that before to that extent?
Because I have not. I've never seen that before. And
this is a daytime, this a matinee game in June,
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and he celebrated that way. I've never seen it before
with him.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Really, I have seen him get excited to that extent.
I've seen him get excited. Yeah, I don't know if
I've ever seen him get that excited in June, but
I've seen him get excited. But he let it go.
I mean, that was like the most exciting moment. He
loved it, he wanted it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh my god, it showed it meant.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Something to them. You know something I'd like to see
a little more of that I'd like to see a
little more of that from those guys.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I could understand why this is sort of monotonous
at this point, Like I could get that to a
certain extent, because the seasons are long, you're judged on
the postseason. As you laid out before the year started,
you said, and I quote, the regular season doesn't matter.
And so they've got all of that that they're dealing with.
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They know that they're going to be the expectations are
at a level that maybe nobody else in Major League
Baseball has because they're trying to repeat. I can understand
the quote unquote dog days of summer mentality with certain things,
but with the Podres. That's why when I hear any
debate about whether or not it's a rivalry or not,
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I'm like, dude, it's okay to acknowledge that it is
a rivalry. It's okay. In fact, it's the best rivalry
in Major League Baseball. Max months, he can try and
sell us on the Giants, and historically there's a lot there,
but over the past couple of years, there's nothing close
than Dodgers Padres, not just in the NL, not just
in the NL West. But I would say in all baseball,
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to be honest, oh by far.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Look these two teams, it really matters. Now You've got
the Giants coming up next, and everybody says, well, the
Giants are really the Dodgers' rival. Well, and maybe they are,
maybe they were, But at this point in time, these
two teams are so evenly matched and there is so
much aggression between the two of them that I think
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it is the most exciting series to watch in all
of baseball. Till they get together. There is no better
series to watch, There's no better game to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And ESPN can try and continue to push down our
throats Yankees Red Sox, Yankees Red Sox. It's not even close.
This is the best one. And I don't know if
that's an East Coast bias towards the West coast. And
I've said it before, whatever you need to do to
try and move the schedule around or groove things, this
game needs to have at least one every time these
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teams meet, one of those games should be featured on
national television like figures, like somehow, some way, you need
to show that to the national audience so they can
maybe get some sort of an understanding as to how
heated this quote unquote rivalry is and how competitive these
matchups are. It's a great game every time. It feels
like a playoff atmosphere every time they play.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And a big part of it is just the atmosphere
in the stadium. I mean, you really thought you were
watching playoff baseball with those Padre fans.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, it was all and I did. I was wondering
because what I have not been to San Diego for
a Padres Dodgers game, but I wonder what the split is.
I want it because we can be dismissive of the Padres.
All we want that is a great venue. I was
there a couple of months ago. That's a great ballpark,
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a great venue, and that fan base is loyal. They
don't have and you would know this, They don't have
the same issues that say, maybe the Chargers had. You
know that that maybe well there's there's any concern that
they could move, Like, I don't get that sense from them.
They love that team, they love that fan base. Obviously
they've got to or they love the they love that team,
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they love that ballpark. Obviously they've got a better setup
than what the Chargers had. But you get down there
and I would look, I hear it and I'm like, man,
I don't know if it's fifty to fifty, but sixty
forty with Dodger fans showing up to a day game
on a on a Wednesday in June, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it was great. Everybody. Everybody got so psyched and
so fired up. And it makes it even better because
the Dodgers won. That's the key, you know. I gotta
tell you, if the Dodgers had lost the series, it's
like the show with right, what are we gonna do?
They won the mock draft. Yeah, I mean, this is great.
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And you know every one of those counts two in
the division, so that makes it even better. And they
delivered a message. And quite frankly, you know, by Sunday
will have forgotten about this because we'll be on to
the next thing. But in the moment, that was huge.
That was huge. They took two of three. That was
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good for them going forward. Now, of course they'll meet
again and then that series will be the next biggest
series they play. But it was a good start. Tail
looked good, got a little pitching yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We'll take it, you know what. I mean, Jonas, We're just.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Had a great bullpen performance in Game two by Key
k Hernandez. You had, you had a little.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Bit it, So you want to talk about that for
a second. Let's a little bit of something, you know,
let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, what's here to talk about if.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're a Dodger fan and Dave Roberts talked about it
after the game. But if you are a Dodger fan,
that annoyed you to no end and carried a step further.
Let's say you drove down to San Diego for that game.
Let's say you bought tickets you could go to one.
That's the one you went to. You had drive down there,
and Key k Hernandez is pitching in the sixth inning.
(08:46):
That's a problem. You're not pleased, but that's kind of
the roll of the dice because it's a long season.
And afterwards, Dave Roberts said, you know, we got to
live to fight tomorrow. We just can't blow through guys,
so we got to eat this one. And god, did
they ever eat that one?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I will? I mean, I don't know. If you happen
to hear David Vassy's postgame talk postgame Dodger Talk yesterday,
but he went in on the Padres handling of their
bullpen in a game they were trailing in using high
leverage relievers and being critical of how they were going
to be able to perform down the stretch. If that's
their mentality, that they're going to burn these guys out,
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maybe yeah, I mean it probably annoyed you if you
drove down there, if you were a Dodger fan and
he wanted to see the team, you know, play their best.
But you know, later on, you know, later in this
year in the playoffs, maybe we're going to look back
on games like that and go, hey, you know, so
and so had a little bit more left in the
tank for some reason. Maybe it's because Key A Hernandez
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was out there with half a batting helmet throwing multiple
multiple relief innings for the Dodgers at San Diego. I
mean makes sense to me. I don't know what that was.
By the way, I'll be honest, I don't don't get
it to me, Like, if you're gonna go all the way,
go all the way, what's with the half batting helmet?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, because you're concerned that you're gonna get hit in
half your head of the line drive. Okay, well that's
why you wear half a batting helmet. I would personally,
I'm covering the whole thing. That would be my approach.
But okay, I get it. That's fine. And that's because
my friend you don't play in the majors. Okay, but
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he understands well.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, but is that like the batting helmet version of Crocs?
You know what I mean? Like Crocs haven't made up
their mind. Are we a sandal? Are we a shoe?
I don't know. Let's just blow some holes through it
and then people can figure it out on their own.
It's like, dude, you got to make a call here.
Either you're going flip flops or you're going full shoe.
And it's almost like Keyk's batting helmet was like, I
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don't know, man, those Crocs got a hell of an
idea going. Let me just go ahead and halfway this thing.
While he's out there throwing a few innings of relief.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Let me ask you this. Are you a fan of Crocs?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Are they a sponsor?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm not either. I'm not a big Crocs guy. I
think Petros wears them. Occasionally. I'm not a big crocs guy.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I just I guess my bigger Like I don't understand
the crocs with the shoe or with the crocs with
the sock on. I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, and a lot of people wear them that way.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I don't necessarily get that. And everyone tells me, hey,
they're really comfortable once you break them in, they're really comfortable.
It's like, all right, but like having to go through
all of that and all of that ridicule just to
get comfortable. Why don't I just get a pair of shoes.
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Why don't I just go that I can just go.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Break them in? Is it like a glove? You know,
you put some oil on it, put the ball in it,
then you know, put some string around it, put it
on your mattress. You got to break them in like that.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh man, you remember that, the good old days. Yeah,
that was the did And by the way, did you
when you would have a baseball glove? Did you start
with a softball? You'd oil it up, you'd wrap the
belt around it with a softball in, and then you'd
gradually lower it down to a baseball, just to try
and give it different sizes to work it back in
like that. Would I remember doing that back in the
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day as a kid, because a baseball that wasn't totally
broken in was a real problem. You couldn't field correctly.
You are a liability in the outfield or the infield,
depending on the position you picked. So I don't know
if a Croc is like that. Does anybody on this
show where Crocs?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To my knowledge, No, Kevin doesn't, Ronnie doesn't. No, nobody
wears him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean hey, but it's just for whatever reason
they been successful, they have been successful, and so it's
hard to hard to be critical. And you got to
give key A Hernandez credit. At least he got it
done in his Crocs batting helmet in that game.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, give him credit. Well, we'll give him that credit.
Uh okay, So you move from one to the other.
You've got the Padres, you took two of three. You're
feeling good. Now. The question becomes is the next one
your real rival? If you questioned the alleged Padre.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Rivalry, are the Giants Dodgers' rivalry?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I mean his Yeah, like that's their rivals. I don't understand.
I just don't understand unless this is a ball busting method,
which I'm all for. If this is just a well,
they're beneath us, that team's beneath us. Historically, the Giants
have a longer rivalry with the Dodgers. That's a rivalry, fair,
(13:56):
But the Padres and the Dodgers are a rivalry. What's
wrong with this? We're not talking about the Rockies, which
at this point, why are they there? You know what
I mean? Like, at this point, if you're a Rockies fan,
are you just looking around? Going, man, when when does
a when does the Broncos season start?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What do we got here? There's no the Rockies. I
can understand people being dismissive of if this is just
a well, the Giants are no longer a rival because
they're not as good anymore. Okay, that's fine. But when
they were in the postseason and they were battling it
out and having these great, great games, it wasn't that
long ago. So the Giants historically rival, Padres are arrival
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The Dodgers have multiple rivals. There's nothing wrong with that. Okay,
there's nothing wrong with being committed to two rival relationships
at the same time. A lot of people do it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Nowadays, Fred, Yeah, yeah, And I gotta be honest with you.
The Padres one right now means more, pretty simple. It
just means more. But when the Giants come to town now,
of course everybody will be fired up for that. And
these are division games, Jonas, you know, they mean more.
And currently the Giants are half a game behind the Dodgers.
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Thanks to what the Dodgers did to the Padres, the
Dodgers are two up on them. So now everybody's going
to be really focused on this. I think, personally, and
Yamamoto goes tomorrow, I think against Logan Web, I think
the Dodgers are far superior to the Giants. I think
they'll spank them. I think I'll knock them back to
where they need to be.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All I've heard as far as the coverage of the
Giants goes is that fools gold Like I've heard fools
gold with the Giants the entire year, that nobody really
takes them seriously. That's one of those teams that as
the season goes on, they're going to get sorted out.
But yeah, I mean they're a half game out. I
mean we're close to seventy games into the season. I know,
We're not at the All Star break yet, but I
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mean they are at least there. And if you're a
Giant fan, based on the past couple of years and
the fact that you still know you move on from
Bruce Bochie and still he goes and wins a World
Series elsewhere, if you're a Giants fan and you can
take this series, you're gonna be bragging about it. But
everything I've heard from anybody is that fool's gold. By
the time the season is starting to wrap up, the
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Giants are gonna be are gonna be in the back
of the pack in the NLST.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I agree, I think you're well, look the back of
the pack. The back of the pack is Colorado. So
they're not going to be at the bottom of the pack.
I'll tell you that because Colorado's won seventeen games on
I think you're right about the Giants, though, I think
the Dodgers get them pretty good this weekend. And that's
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just a dose of reality. You know what those people
up north need. They need a dose of reality. They too,
they need to know what's good. They need to know
what's happening, and they're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You guys are gonna get a real dose. React now
when you meet when you meet the Dodgers, You're gonna
get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Stop stop thinking you're all that. Stop it now. Don't
put us through that. Don't put yourself through that. Do
you want emotional heartbreak? You don't need it. Why would
you put yourself in that position?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
By the way, why would you? Why would you put
me in a difficult position? Can I ask you that?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So I received a text message that, uh, Petros has
a bad foot. So why would you on the rundown
have Kevin put rip crocs just to bust Petros's balls?
Why would you do that if he's got if he's
dealing with some sort of an issue with his foot,
from a from a a long grinding career, yeah, playing
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high level football. Why would you see it fit on
this show with all the other things that we have
to talk about. Yeah, to simply bait me into discussing
crocs so that you could indirectly take a shot at Petros.
You ought to, In fact, you ought to be ashamed
of yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Fred No, I appreciate that. I appreciate you you framing
it in that way. The truth is, I'm staring at
the rundown right now, and there's the addendum with an arrow.
Jonas wants to talk about Petro's crocs. I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, listen, I don't believe if that's the case. I mean,
if I didn't do that, did I do that? If
you're not going to own this, that's I'm not gonna
own it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, I'm not gonna own it. As a matter of fact,
you were the one that wrote it. And now you're
trying to turn around and blame me. That's what you
were gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Fred my son wears crocs, okay, and so now but
you have worked me into criticizing not only my son
but now Petros, and now he's pissed. And I got
to deal with that because.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Here's the thing, and what I thought you were gonna do. Okay,
and this is my bad, and we all make mistakes.
I'll own this. I thought you were going to talk
about crocs and how therapeutic they were for Petros and
how much more comfortable they made his foot feel, and
how just from a therapy peutic standpoint, they were a
(19:02):
very good thing. It went in a different direction, Jonas,
And I'm sorry, but I thought that's where you were
going to go listen.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I just pointed out the keyky Hernandez's helmet that he
used in relief the other night, was the Crocs version
of a batting helmet, not quite a shoe, not quite
a sandal, sort of halfway there. And you instead work
this into working off a Google doc and updated the
rundown in real time to say, hey, make sure we
air out Crocs, just to piss Petros off. I don't
(19:30):
get it. I don't know what goes through your sick
and twisted mind that you think that's appropriate sports talk
radio here in the middle of a Thursday What.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You just do what you wanted to do, because now
we'll just cut to the chase.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Why didn't you just say I think Petros should wear
a Kiky Hernandez crock helmet on his foot, because that's
what you were really trying to set up. And it
kind of went AWRYE.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I've never heard somebody. I've never heard somebody so invested
in foot talk. Who are you? Rex? Ryan? What's the
matter with you?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Like it's like you're you're all about this stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, No, I don't have the foot fetish. I really don't.
What are you Rex? Ryan?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hey? By the way, can I ask you this? Where
do the would you consider the Diamondbacks arrival to the Dodgers? No, okay,
not even since the you know they they like to
jump in their pool and piss them off. Do you
think the Diamondbacks would like for the Dodgers to be
a rival and are sort of envious of the the
actual rivalry that the Dodgers have with the Padres and
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or the Giants, because the Diamondbacks feel like they're kind
of in no man's land.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And they are. I mean, when carbon Burns went on
the IL, they signed a guy for like five years
and a ton of doll they're what they're pitching. Their
pitching hasn't really been there this year. They haven't hit
as well as they should. Here's the thing. I think
the fans would like to create that that rivalry. I
don't think that exists. I think everything in the division,
because the West is so tight, those games mean so much.
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I think everybody gets excited for them. But I don't
think the Dodger players get up to play the Diamondbacks
like they do the Podres. Quite frankly, I'm not sure
they get up to play the Giants like they do
against the Padres. The Padres are the team now.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh yeah, well listen, I would agree. I think historically
it just means more to people who are longtime Dodger fans.
They remember and they sort of quote unquote harken back
to the good old days that maybe the Giants Dodgers
rivalry it sort of fits that mold. But I'm with you.
I think it's the Padres all the way. Another question
for you, since you are the Desert Dean and you
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are very loyal to the state of Arizona, how many
people have they kept track of? How many people have
urinated in that pool at the Diamondbacks games? Where is
it Chase Park or whatever it's called, cha Chase Field?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
How many people have have been pre partying at Dan
Marley's bar across the street and stumbled over to that
swimming pool and just let it fly while the game's
going on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So okay, this does not count. When the Dodgers did it? Correct?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh did they urinate inside the pool?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Really.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is that a real story?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
No kidding?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But are we going to remove them?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, all right, So, so separating the Dodgers,
and do we have any names of Dodgers players that
you'd like to air out? Since you air out your
your your radio partner, Petros, your your brother in the
AM five seventy world, would you like to air out
anybody else on the Dodgers who urinated in the Diamondbacks pool.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And the end?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, I'm just saying. Jerry Harriston Junior was on
the show and he confirmed it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Okay, alright, well, I mean, if you're gonna do it,
why not go all the way?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right? I mean, well, did he confirm it? Let's put
it like this, He didn't deny it, so we took
that as confirmation. Yeah, but aside from the Dodgers and
one situation, let me think I would say one hundred
and forty seven.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it has to I was gonna say, I was
going to about to set the over under it one
forty six and a half. So, yeah, you narrowly hit
the over, But I was gonna say that that feels
like a move that you know, some of your drunk
friends in Arizona would pull off.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Have I drunk friends in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, just crawl into the pool and let it fly
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know what, I'll tell you what's truly said. I'll
tell you what's said. You know. So I went to
West High School in Phoenix, right, and then it became
a vocational school, so it really doesn't even exist in
its current form. But you get to a certain point
in life where you start hearing from people you went
to school with. You're not there yet, you're like two
years away from this, thank you, my pleasure. And when
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you hit this point in life, everybody, if you're there,
you know, and if not, you should get ready. You
start hearing from all these people from your past that
you haven't heard from, like in thirty years. True, But
everyone that calls you tells you about something that's bad. Well,
you heard about old Dan, didn't you. No, I haven't
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talked to Dan in forty six years. It's not good.
He got run over by a tractor. Oh my god.
Well you know the story of Mike Carns, don't you.
Actually I don't. I haven't even talked to you in
thirty five years. Well, not good, not good, put on weight,
basically exploded and died. Oh my god, I'm starting to
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get these calls from people, but every call is bad
and more bizarre than another one. I am telling you
somebody called me and said, yeah, tractor ran him over
and killed him. Oh God, this is awful. And I said,
why are you calling me? Why are you telling me this?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Because you're the desert dean.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, there's that. There's that. But I think at a
certain point in time and you, I think everybody will
find this out as you progress through life. People you
went to school with that you haven't heard from forever
somehow find your number in the depth of tragedy and
then they have to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Now. Could it be them sort of passive aggressively asking you.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
If I'm alive.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, not if you're alive, but hey, you've got some stroke.
Could you start a GoFundMe page?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Could it be something like that? Maybe no one has.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Ever asked me the bottom of this. Oh that's fair,
But I just think it's normal human emotion. No one
has ever asked me, you know, you know what happened
to her? I really don't. Yeah, she fell off a
mountain and died. Can you start a gofund me? No,
no one's ever done.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That, And knowing you had you gotten news that she
had fallen off a mountain and died, you would have,
instead of setting up a GoFundMe page, would have just
sent them a parachute, which which again disgusting behavior, but
that's par for the course. As we opened up this
show here on this Thursday, all.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Right, Kevin Durant is searching for a home. What home
will he end up in? Jonas Knox in today for
Rodney on a five to seventy LA Sports. Yeah, do
you think the Clipper should be a place for Kevin Durant?
Let's figure that out.
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Speaker 1 (26:50):
All right, a throwback Thursday. Jonas Knox is in today
for Rodney. So here's the deal. Kevin Durant, Jonas and
his representative are starting to consider possible destinations if the
Sons want to trade him. You know, he almost went.
He almost went during the trade deadline of the Warriors,
but now they're really considering it, and the Clippers could
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be a destination. So let's start with that. Then I'll
have some thoughts on Kevin Durant. I think if the
Clippers got Kevin Durant, would they be better one hundred percent?
Would they win? Absolutely not. They would not win the
title because again, they'd have no depth. Because the pain
for Kevin Durant Jonas, You've got to just basically gut
your team. And I don't think that's a wise move.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What do you think, I mean, how would they learn
their lesson? You know, I haven't haven't made They've been
down this road where they you know, they're trying to
bring in the veteran and and you know, deplete their
depth to go ahead and chase that veteran, and then
I don't know, I just wonder if maybe there might
be a little bit gun shy considering who the MVP
(27:55):
is this year, where he came from previously, and what
he's done for that team, It seems like that would
not make the most sense in the world. I love
Kevin Durant. I'm a big Kevin Durant fan. He's on
one of the great players of this generation, obviously a
first bout Hall of Famer, But it just feels like
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the idea of like, you're not trading for Kevin Durant
in his mid twenties, you're now trading for Kevin Durant
in his mid to late thirties. And I just don't
know that adding Kevin Durant gets you closer to a title.
I'm sorry, I don't think. I don't think it helps
close the gap to what OKC is and Denver and
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whoever else you're going to be competing with over the
next X amount of years to try and win a title. Sorry,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I agree with you. It doesn't close the gap. And
then that brings you to this. Because Kevin Durant can play,
Nobody will say he won't make you better, But wherever
you were to send him, given the amount of money
he makes, it's a very tough situation to try and
create any depth. And then you're stuck. You're stuck. You
(29:09):
find yourself exactly where the Lakers were when they had
Russell Wesbrooke. You're stuck and I just don't think it
makes any sense. He makes too much money at the
right price point, Yeah, a million percent. You want him,
but if you get him, it's basically his team, and
then you have to surround him with guys. I don't
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think that's a recipe for success, he said.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Just on the Durant front, He's had a really bizarre
career if you think about it, because it's his whole
ability or openness to I want to go elsewhere, whether
it was I'm leaving OKC and I'm gonna, you know,
go to Golden Like people forget Kevin Durant's been in
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the league so long now to this point that he
was drafted by the Sonnings and so to see him
go from I want to leave OKAC and I want
to go to Golden State. He wins a couple of
titles there. He's the best player on the Warriors. People
can sell Steph Curry all they want, Like who is
the finals MVP? It was it was Kevin Durant, like
he you know, and they may have won another one
(30:17):
had he not gotten hurt and Klay Thompson gotten hurt
in their matchup against Toronto. So he leaves all that
him and Kyrie Irving want to pair up because you
know he had a fall out with Draymond Green or
whatever happened there. He goes to Brooklyn, then he goes
to Phene. He's he is your typical modern day NBA
player where he didn't stay in one spot, was open
(30:40):
to moving around. And now I look at it and
I go It's just happened so many times throughout the
course of his career. Like if he does go to
when he goes to the Hall of Fame, you know
in Major League Baseball, you say, well, which which cap
is he going to wear in his Hall of Fame? Bust?
What would you consider Kevin Durant like who do Like
He's played three years at every stop not named OKAC.
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Majority of his time in the NBA was in Oklahoma City.
Since then, he's just moved around and just kind of
had this traveling road show. It's just a really weird
career for a an all time great player.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, where what is he going to the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
As I don't I mean, you know what majority would say,
would say, okay, see, but his most success as a
team was Golden State.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That that's what it would be it'd be the Warriors. Yeah,
that's where he would go in.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And you're not getting that guy with the Clippers trade
for him. You're not getting that guy that the Clippers
would be trading for. Oh it's just like you're not
You're not. You're not getting anything close to that. So
why would they make the move? Okay, no they will.
I agree they should not, but I look at it
in a bigger picture. Really, at his price point is
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he is he valuable to anybody. I'm not saying he's
not valuable, don't misunderstand. But if you bring him in,
it's a whole new ball game. It's a whole new situation, and.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You have to basically, unless you've got a lot of
cap room, And if you have a lot of cap room,
you're probably not going to bring him in because you
have to rebuild. You've got to change what you're doing.
I don't he makes too much money, period, And it's
great for the NBA. If you remember Tim Duncan when
he played for San Antonio, took less money, took less
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money so they could continue to win. I don't know
if the Players Association would be a fan of that,
but I don't know where he goes, and despite his
incredible skill, makes that much of a difference because you
have to blow everything up. It's an interesting dilemma.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I mean, who's the if they were to land Kevin Durant,
Let's just say they pull this off Slippers trade for
Kevin Durant, Who's the more interesting team to watch next year?
Lakers are Clippers. If they add Kevin Durant, It's to
me it would still be the Lakers because of the
Luca Lebron dynamic. So even if even the Clippers going
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out and adding this future Hall of Fame or even
in his age, I don't know that that necessarily closes
the gap from an interest level from the Clippers to
the Lakers. But the Lakers are going to have Lebron
and apparently in all of a sudden in shape Luka Doncic,
which I don't I don't know if you've seen any
of that stuff going around. I don't know if it's Ai.
I don't know what we got working on with. But
(33:39):
Lucas looks like he's lost a considerable amount of weight,
which he had to and was forced to because you
fat shamed him on the air for months when he
first got here.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Now, what is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
What do you mean? Like you fat shamed the guy?
So now he's now he's out there. The guy hasn't
eaten a single thing since the season ended. He's basically
Tom Hanks on an island having an affair with a
volleyball in a movie because you aired him out and
called him fat on the air multiple times over when
Luca first got here.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Look, I never called him fat. You're aware of that.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I don't know why you have to start that kind
of thing. I don't know why you have to go there.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I mean maybe that's why Kevin Durant would be hestant
to coming here as well too. He doesn't want to
have to deal with the blowback of the Desert Dean,
especially especially if he's leaving Phoenix your team to come
to the Clippers. Does he want to deal with that rath?
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know, Well, there won't be any wrath, but
you know, it's just it. I think he's become this guy. Now,
Oh my god, let's get him. There are those guys.
Oh my god, let's get him. Kevin Durant. We gotta
get him. I just he makes too much money, and
(34:55):
he should make all the money he can. But he's
actually hurting the he's actually hurting the team, not helping it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That he by the way, he could still score the basketball,
no question, guy average twenty sixty game last year, Like
he can still score.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Like that's not questioning that. Yeah, that's not even an argument. Yes,
he can still score, but at his price point, it
really alters everything you're trying to do. I'd stay away
from him. I would. Yeah, it's the kind of thing
if the Lakers could they go get them, then they'd
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have Luca, Lebron, Durant and nobody else. That'd be the
whole team. Three guys would play five every night and Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
James and then now would Lebron Now would Durant play
center because he is a debatable seven foot Yeah, yeah,
if you didn't like you know, Jackson Hayes or anybody
else that tried to step in there, Maxi Klieba, who
basically added, you know, I don't know if anything was
working below the waist, but when JJ Riddick decided to
throw him in there, like would you would you just
(35:59):
play Durant at the five and let him be a
center to close out his career. That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It would be fun. But again, they'd only have three players,
so you have to play center. What you would do
is you'd have Kevin Durant play center, Lebron would play forward,
and look it would play guard, and that would be
your whole team. You played three on five every night
because you couldn't afford anybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
All nice like the Big Three tournament. They'd be their
own Big Three tournament like you four in the five
exactly then, and by the way, for those of you
dismissing that idea from Fred, I can understand why. But
also it is it is an Olympic sport. Now you
know three on three basketball is an Olympic sport. I
think Jim or Ferdett, who once competed against guys in
(36:40):
a prison somewhere. He was part of the three on
three USA team who didn't even meddle last time around.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I understand Jonas, but being in the Big Three, they
would lose to a team of five players. You're aware
of that, right.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, I mean I'm understanding of that, But I just
think that you know, it is a hell of an idea.
Would you not be entertained by the idea of the
Lakers saying, Hey, listen, we're going to try a whole
new approach here. Sure, we're going to go lebron Kevin, Durant, Luca.
You put whatever five you want out there.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this. Yeah,
do the Lakers have any reserves for their three guys?
They have Bronny, but they're only going to play three
at a time.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Do you need anybody else?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, So what you're suggesting is the Lakers have four
players on their roster, yeah, okay, and the other teams
have twelve full bench, right, So to start the game,
to start the game, are you going to play Bronni
full time or is he going to be the reserve?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You got to have a reserve, yeah, I mean, and
I don't know. Obviously there would be some load management
issues as well too, So Bronni, you could bring him
in and look, JJ Reddick can probably still shoot. It's
you know, it's boxing, they say. The last thing they
go on a fighter is his power. The last thing
to go on on a basketball player is a shot.
So if you really were in a jam, like if
you know, for whatever reason, Lebron could make it one
(38:10):
night because there was traffic or something like that. You
could throw in JJ Reddick to as part of the rotation.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So that's fair. You can have a player coach too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, so now they have five players, but only three
will play at a time.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
So the question becomes, if that in fact was the case,
would they win one game?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh, there's some bad teams. There are some bad teams
out there, and and there's also some teams that are
that are very open to tanking it. And I could
I could see a couple of teams and look, it
is the NBA. You're never quite sure who's got money
on what. So there there is the possibility that, look,
(38:55):
I'll say this, if you were to if you were
to tell me right now, you've got Lebron James Kevin Durant,
and you've got Luka Doncic versus whatever, starting five the
Wizards throwout. I'll take the Lakers, okay, and especially if
I'm getting points.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, Fred Rogan Jonas Knox on a five to seventy
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Speaker 2 (39:23):
By the way, we got a lot down there, Fred,
I know we did.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You got Venmo. Well, if you do, I know one
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poker Face by Lady Gotgat.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Hell, yeah, Tomato, it's been two thousand and nine. Yeah, damn?
Time flies?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, two thousand and nine. Time fly in that weird?
Does it seem like time is moving faster now? Or no?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Were you at the beast back then?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I can't remember two thousand and nine. Well, let's see
next year it will be my return here ten years,
so that's twenty fifteen. I could have been there, but
I still I could have been here, actually, Jonas, because
I was here, then I jumped over and then I
came right back.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You were poached.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't know if I was poached. Well, I was
poached the first time. I was poached by the beast
because we feed on La sports.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, you know what, Apparently we didn't have that voracious
of an appetite. But uh, yeah, I was poached and
then that I left, and then I came right back here.
I was done there Monday, and I was back here Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Wow. Yeah, you don't wait long?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Why? Yeah, like I never left. I came in. I
think I filled it into the afternoon show. I sat
down with Petros and then he gave me crap for
three hours. Welcome back. Oh you're back, Okay, Like I
never left. Uh, Scottie Scheffler's got a problem. See this
(41:43):
gambling and you're you're all into gambling, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Everything with you is geez okay, everything with you that guy, Okay,
I'm Tim Donahey, all of a sudden, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, you're Tim donahey right, everything everything, your money, well,
you see being able to play prize picks and fan
duel and underdog. By the way, have you done any
one of those three?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, they're great, I've done them.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah. I got to streak up to eight one time.
If I had got to nine, I would have won.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I mean it's look, here's my philosophy on sports betting,
all right, because some people will look down on it
still to this day, and I call it the ultimate condiment.
It's like you sit down at a restaurant, the chicken's
a little bland, you add a little hot sauce to it.
All of a sudden you can tolerate it. Do you
(42:34):
know how many bad sporting events I've been watching and said,
you know what, I could use a little hot sauce,
throw some money on it. Next thing, you know, all
of a sudden, it tastes that much better. It's the
ultimate sports condiment, and people should be more open to
the idea of using it more.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And that being said, if you don't win, are you
choking on your food?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I just have to take money out of my son's
piggy bank.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Oh that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah. And by the way, by the way, I've blown
through at least thirty percent, at least thirty percent of
whatever he's gotten from the in laws.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, and here's the deal. And I think it's a
valid point. And maybe it's just a tip for everybody
listening today. If you are involved in any type of betting,
you know, be it prize picks, fan, dual underdog, or
if you go to Vegas and you can actually bet
on the games, make sure you take that money from
your kids. Just do it like that. Yeah, it's a look,
(43:33):
they're not going to miss it. And if you win,
you replace it and you take the winnings and you
can say, and I've bought your new shoes. I've only
done it for you. That's the way to handle this.
If you're going to bet, just take the money from
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah. My wife was like, you know, hey, our son
still walking around and you know, he's four years old now,
but he's still walking around and you know clothes that say,
you know, for twelve to eighteen months, and we do
something about this. I was like, can we do something
about this? Why don't you tell the Edmonton Oilers to
do something about it exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
We wanted to tell that no good, you know what,
Connor McDavid.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, Like, listen, I've got to sacrifice potentially my relationship
with Fred and how he feels about the Oilers to
try and win a bet. So if you don't like
the fact that our kids walking around and some shirt
he had when he was eleven months old with mustard
stains on it, I don't know what to tell you.
He smells like Gerber and Hines for the rest of
his life unless the Oilers can figure this out and
score a goal.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And what's the old line? I don't know why your
wife's upset. I mean, Jim Hill, does it wear it
long enough? It always comes back into style.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Oh geez, why's Jim Hill got to catch a stray?
I'm just saying, what did he just mine in his
own business? And you got to take a shot at
Jim Hill.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I didn't take a shot at him. It's a statement
of fact.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
If Jim Hill can wear the same stuff since nineteen
ninety two, why can't your sign wear the same stuff
that's when he was two years old?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
This is I mean, this is really problematic. So you
took a shot at Petros to start. You took a
shot at Jim Hill to close up the hour. Who's
getting the next hour? Rob Fukuzaki, Come on, Fred, have
a heart. These are these are your contemporaries.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I didn't take it as a matter of fact. Now
since you bring it up. Petros texted me, why did
you have to do this?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I couldn't read. I couldn't read what what he sent
to me on the air, so I kind of had
to dress it up a little bit. Yeah, right, what
did he send you? Was it something along?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Just he wanted to make sure I knew why he
wore crops, And I said, but I didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I got the same thing. I got the same thing.
I didn't know. I did not know that there was
there was a reason behind him wearing crocs, and you
had to call him out for that.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
And I never dispute I said, I didn't dispute it.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And now, Jim Hill, nobody's safe.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Anyway. Let's deal with your gambling obsession. Okay, oh great,
you know we can't even deal with your gambling obsession.
Now we're out of time. We'll do it next hour,
Fred Rogan, Jonas Knox at five to seventy LA Sports.
You know what, Let's give a pair of tickets away
for the Dodgers and Padres next week. Should we do that?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
You go with that, Joe, Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It's six six, nine eighty seven two five seventy. That
is the number to call who wants to see the
Dodgers and Padres next week. We're gonna do it all afternoon.
We'll start it right now. Call her for good luck.
All right, let's get to it, Fred Rogan, and today
Jonas Knox is in for Rodney. Jonas, how are you
hello there?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fred? You look great. Just want to start off the
show by painting the picture for the people listing here
that you look phenomenal per usual.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's very kind of you. How do you like my
shirt today?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I looks great. I mean I personally wouldn't have gone
with that color, but hey, to each their own. I'm
not exactly a fashion guru.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, but what shade would you say? It is?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oo? I mean to me, it's beyond a shade. It's
more of a statement, and the statement is loud and
the statement is in charge.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh I appreciate that. So you think this shirt is
a statement of being loud and in charge, I would yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I mean, listen to me, that makes all the sense
in the world. Like, it's beyond a color scheme, It's
beyond anything like that. There isn't a single piece of
lighting on the planet that could do anything to disrupt
the fact that you own that style. You are that style,
and in fact, because of that, we all should be
in debt to you and your performance coming up throughout
(01:11):
the show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Today, see That's what I'm talking about. Thank you for
being so kind. By the way, you look terrific. Thank you, Fred,
you really do I love your hat today? I'd you know,
oh please, not even a question, not even a question.
Did you know? How's two pros and a cup.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of Joel doing It's great. We obviously had the show
earlier today and a lot of conversation about NBA finals,
a lot of conversation about the NFL, and we just
keep trucking along. There is no slow time in sports radio.
Just people that maybe adapt to a changing sports landscape
(01:49):
a little bit slow, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, I hear you, I hear you. That makes sense. Yeah,
all right, let's get to the show. How about those
Dodgers yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hey two or three?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Come on, Joan, let's get serious here.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, look, it's hard to get serious because it's,
you know, not a rival. According to some people, that's
not a you know, the the Padres aren't around. I mean,
never mind the fact that Alex Vessi has celebrated like
they had just you know, won a game to save
planet Earth from destruction like they were in the movie
War the World. But no, definitely not a rival and
didn't mean anything to anybody because they're so beneath them.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So okay, yeah, you know what I thought, Alex Vessio. See,
I like when guys are organically excited. I don't like
things that are orchestrated. But when he got the final out,
I thought, that's what I'm talking about. That's the genuine
excitement I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, Like, can I ask you a question, how many
years have you been covering Alex Vessia since he's been here? Okay,
have you ever seen him do that before to that extent?
Because I have not. I've never seen that before. And
this is a daytime, this a matinee game in June,
(03:02):
and he celebrated that way. I've never seen it before
with him.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Really, I have seen him get excited to that extent.
I've seen him get excited. Yeah, I don't know if
I've ever seen him get that excited in June, but
I've seen him get excited. But he let it go.
I mean, that was like the most exciting moment. He
loved it, he wanted it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh my god, it showed it meant.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Something to them. You know something I'd like to see
a little more of that I'd like to see a
little more of that from those guys.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I could understand why this is sort of monotonous
at this point, Like I could get that to a
certain extent, because the seasons are long, you're judged on
the postseason. As you laid out before the year started,
you said, and I quote, the regular season doesn't matter.
And so they've got all of that that they're dealing with.
(04:00):
They know that they're going to be the expectations are
at a level that maybe nobody else in Major League
Baseball has because they're trying to repeat. I can understand
the quote unquote dog days of summer mentality with certain things,
but with the Podres. That's why when I hear any
debate about whether or not it's a rivalry or not,
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I'm like, dude, it's okay to acknowledge that it is
a rivalry. It's okay. In fact, it's the best rivalry
in Major League Baseball. Max months, he can try and
sell us on the Giants, and historically there's a lot there,
but over the past couple of years, there's nothing close
than Dodgers Padres, not just in the NL, not just
in the NL West. But I would say in all baseball,
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to be honest, oh by far.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Look these two teams, it really matters. Now You've got
the Giants coming up next, and everybody says, well, the
Giants are really the Dodgers' rival. Well, and maybe they are,
maybe they were, But at this point in time, these
two teams are so evenly matched and there is so
much aggression between the two of them that I think
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it is the most exciting series to watch in all
of baseball. Till they get together. There is no better
series to watch, There's no better game to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And ESPN can try and continue to push down our
throats Yankees Red Sox, Yankees Red Sox. It's not even close.
This is the best one. And I don't know if
that's an East Coast bias towards the West coast. And
I've said it before, whatever you need to do to
try and move the schedule around or groove things, this
game needs to have at least one every time these
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teams meet, one of those games should be featured on
national television like figures, like somehow, some way, you need
to show that to the national audience so they can
maybe get some sort of an understanding as to how
heated this quote unquote rivalry is and how competitive these
matchups are. It's a great game every time. It feels
like a playoff atmosphere every time they play.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And a big part of it is just the atmosphere
in the stadium. I mean, you really thought you were
watching playoff baseball with those Padre fans.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, it was all and I did. I was wondering
because what I have not been to San Diego for
a Padres Dodgers game, but I wonder what the split is.
I want it because we can be dismissive of the Padres.
All we want that is a great venue. I was
there a couple of months ago. That's a great ballpark,
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a great venue, and that fan base is loyal. They
don't have and you would know this, They don't have
the same issues that say, maybe the Chargers had. You
know that that maybe well there's there's any concern that
they could move, Like, I don't get that sense from them.
They love that team, they love that fan base. Obviously
they've got to or they love the they love that team,
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they love that ballpark. Obviously they've got a better setup
than what the Chargers had. But you get down there
and I would look, I hear it and I'm like, man,
I don't know if it's fifty to fifty, but sixty
forty with Dodger fans showing up to a day game
on a on a Wednesday in June, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, it was great. Everybody. Everybody got so psyched and
so fired up. And it makes it even better because
the Dodgers won. That's the key, you know. I gotta
tell you, if the Dodgers had lost the series, it's
like the show with right, what are we gonna do?
They won the mock draft. Yeah, I mean, this is great.
(07:31):
And you know every one of those counts two in
the division, so that makes it even better. And they
delivered a message. And quite frankly, you know, by Sunday
will have forgotten about this because we'll be on to
the next thing. But in the moment, that was huge.
That was huge. They took two of three. That was
(07:54):
good for them going forward. Now, of course they'll meet
again and then that series will be the next biggest
series they play. But it was a good start. Tail
looked good, got a little pitching yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We'll take it, you know what. I mean, Jonas, We're just.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Had a great bullpen performance in Game two by Key
k Hernandez. You had, you had a little.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Bit it, So you want to talk about that for
a second. Let's a little bit of something, you know,
let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, what's here to talk about if.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're a Dodger fan and Dave Roberts talked about it
after the game. But if you are a Dodger fan,
that annoyed you to no end and carried a step further.
Let's say you drove down to San Diego for that game.
Let's say you bought tickets you could go to one.
That's the one you went to. You had drive down there,
and Key k Hernandez is pitching in the sixth inning.
(08:46):
That's a problem. You're not pleased, but that's kind of
the roll of the dice because it's a long season.
And afterwards, Dave Roberts said, you know, we got to
live to fight tomorrow. We just can't blow through guys,
so we got to eat this one. And god, did
they ever eat that one?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I will? I mean, I don't know. If you happen
to hear David Vassy's postgame talk postgame Dodger Talk yesterday,
but he went in on the Padres handling of their
bullpen in a game they were trailing in using high
leverage relievers and being critical of how they were going
to be able to perform down the stretch. If that's
their mentality, that they're going to burn these guys out,
(09:25):
maybe yeah, I mean it probably annoyed you if you
drove down there, if you were a Dodger fan and
he wanted to see the team, you know, play their best.
But you know, later on, you know, later in this
year in the playoffs, maybe we're going to look back
on games like that and go, hey, you know, so
and so had a little bit more left in the
tank for some reason. Maybe it's because Key A Hernandez
(09:45):
was out there with half a batting helmet throwing multiple
multiple relief innings for the Dodgers at San Diego. I
mean makes sense to me. I don't know what that was.
By the way, I'll be honest, I don't don't get
it to me, Like, if you're gonna go all the way,
go all the way, what's with the half batting helmet?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, because you're concerned that you're gonna get hit in
half your head of the line drive. Okay, well that's
why you wear half a batting helmet. I would personally,
I'm covering the whole thing. That would be my approach.
But okay, I get it. That's fine. And that's because
my friend you don't play in the majors. Okay, but
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he understands well.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, but is that like the batting helmet version of Crocs?
You know what I mean? Like Crocs haven't made up
their mind. Are we a sandal? Are we a shoe?
I don't know. Let's just blow some holes through it
and then people can figure it out on their own.
It's like, dude, you got to make a call here.
Either you're going flip flops or you're going full shoe.
And it's almost like Keyk's batting helmet was like, I
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don't know, man, those Crocs got a hell of an
idea going. Let me just go ahead and halfway this thing.
While he's out there throwing a few innings of relief.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Let me ask you this. Are you a fan of Crocs?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Are they a sponsor?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm not either. I'm not a big Crocs guy. I
think Petros wears them. Occasionally. I'm not a big crocs guy.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I just I guess my bigger Like I don't understand
the crocs with the shoe or with the crocs with
the sock on. I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, and a lot of people wear them that way.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I don't necessarily get that. And everyone tells me, hey,
they're really comfortable once you break them in, they're really comfortable.
It's like, all right, but like having to go through
all of that and all of that ridicule just to
get comfortable. Why don't I just get a pair of shoes.
(11:55):
Why don't I just go that I can just go.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Break them in? Is it like a glove? You know,
you put some oil on it, put the ball in it,
then you know, put some string around it, put it
on your mattress. You got to break them in like that.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh man, you remember that, the good old days. Yeah,
that was the did And by the way, did you
when you would have a baseball glove? Did you start
with a softball? You'd oil it up, you'd wrap the
belt around it with a softball in, and then you'd
gradually lower it down to a baseball, just to try
and give it different sizes to work it back in
like that. Would I remember doing that back in the
(12:30):
day as a kid, because a baseball that wasn't totally
broken in was a real problem. You couldn't field correctly.
You are a liability in the outfield or the infield,
depending on the position you picked. So I don't know
if a Croc is like that. Does anybody on this
show where Crocs?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To my knowledge, No, Kevin doesn't, Ronnie doesn't. No, nobody
wears him.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean hey, but it's just for whatever reason
they been successful, they have been successful, and so it's
hard to hard to be critical. And you got to
give key A Hernandez credit. At least he got it
done in his Crocs batting helmet in that game.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, give him credit. Well, we'll give him that credit.
Uh okay, So you move from one to the other.
You've got the Padres, you took two of three. You're
feeling good. Now. The question becomes is the next one
your real rival? If you questioned the alleged Padre.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Rivalry, are the Giants Dodgers' rivalry?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I mean his Yeah, like that's their rivals. I don't understand.
I just don't understand unless this is a ball busting method,
which I'm all for. If this is just a well,
they're beneath us, that team's beneath us. Historically, the Giants
have a longer rivalry with the Dodgers. That's a rivalry, fair,
(13:56):
But the Padres and the Dodgers are a rivalry. What's
wrong with this? We're not talking about the Rockies, which
at this point, why are they there? You know what
I mean? Like, at this point, if you're a Rockies fan,
are you just looking around? Going, man, when when does
a when does the Broncos season start?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What do we got here? There's no the Rockies. I
can understand people being dismissive of if this is just
a well, the Giants are no longer a rival because
they're not as good anymore. Okay, that's fine. But when
they were in the postseason and they were battling it
out and having these great, great games, it wasn't that
long ago. So the Giants historically rival, Padres are arrival
(14:39):
The Dodgers have multiple rivals. There's nothing wrong with that. Okay,
there's nothing wrong with being committed to two rival relationships
at the same time. A lot of people do it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Nowadays, Fred, Yeah, yeah, And I gotta be honest with you.
The Padres one right now means more, pretty simple. It
just means more. But when the Giants come to town now,
of course everybody will be fired up for that. And
these are division games, Jonas, you know, they mean more.
And currently the Giants are half a game behind the Dodgers.
(15:10):
Thanks to what the Dodgers did to the Padres, the
Dodgers are two up on them. So now everybody's going
to be really focused on this. I think, personally, and
Yamamoto goes tomorrow, I think against Logan Web, I think
the Dodgers are far superior to the Giants. I think
they'll spank them. I think I'll knock them back to
where they need to be.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All I've heard as far as the coverage of the
Giants goes is that fools gold Like I've heard fools
gold with the Giants the entire year, that nobody really
takes them seriously. That's one of those teams that as
the season goes on, they're going to get sorted out.
But yeah, I mean they're a half game out. I
mean we're close to seventy games into the season. I know,
We're not at the All Star break yet, but I
(15:52):
mean they are at least there. And if you're a
Giant fan, based on the past couple of years and
the fact that you still know you move on from
Bruce Bochie and still he goes and wins a World
Series elsewhere, if you're a Giants fan and you can
take this series, you're gonna be bragging about it. But
everything I've heard from anybody is that fool's gold. By
the time the season is starting to wrap up, the
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Giants are gonna be are gonna be in the back
of the pack in the NLST.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I agree, I think you're well, look the back of
the pack. The back of the pack is Colorado. So
they're not going to be at the bottom of the pack.
I'll tell you that because Colorado's won seventeen games on
I think you're right about the Giants, though, I think
the Dodgers get them pretty good this weekend. And that's
(16:38):
just a dose of reality. You know what those people
up north need. They need a dose of reality. They too,
they need to know what's good. They need to know
what's happening, and they're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You guys are gonna get a real dose. React now
when you meet when you meet the Dodgers, You're gonna
get it right.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Stop stop thinking you're all that. Stop it now. Don't
put us through that. Don't put yourself through that. Do
you want emotional heartbreak? You don't need it. Why would
you put yourself in that position?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
By the way, why would you? Why would you put
me in a difficult position? Can I ask you that?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So I received a text message that, uh, Petros has
a bad foot. So why would you on the rundown
have Kevin put rip crocs just to bust Petros's balls?
Why would you do that if he's got if he's
dealing with some sort of an issue with his foot,
from a from a a long grinding career, yeah, playing
(17:43):
high level football. Why would you see it fit on
this show with all the other things that we have
to talk about. Yeah, to simply bait me into discussing
crocs so that you could indirectly take a shot at Petros.
You ought to, In fact, you ought to be ashamed
of yourself.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Fred No, I appreciate that. I appreciate you you framing
it in that way. The truth is, I'm staring at
the rundown right now, and there's the addendum with an arrow.
Jonas wants to talk about Petro's crocs. I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, listen, I don't believe if that's the case. I mean,
if I didn't do that, did I do that? If
you're not going to own this, that's I'm not gonna
own it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, I'm not gonna own it. As a matter of fact,
you were the one that wrote it. And now you're
trying to turn around and blame me. That's what you
were gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Fred my son wears crocs, okay, and so now but
you have worked me into criticizing not only my son
but now Petros, and now he's pissed. And I got
to deal with that because.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Here's the thing, and what I thought you were gonna do. Okay,
and this is my bad, and we all make mistakes.
I'll own this. I thought you were going to talk
about crocs and how therapeutic they were for Petros and
how much more comfortable they made his foot feel, and
how just from a therapy peutic standpoint, they were a
(19:02):
very good thing. It went in a different direction, Jonas,
And I'm sorry, but I thought that's where you were
going to go listen.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I just pointed out the keyky Hernandez's helmet that he
used in relief the other night, was the Crocs version
of a batting helmet, not quite a shoe, not quite
a sandal, sort of halfway there. And you instead work
this into working off a Google doc and updated the
rundown in real time to say, hey, make sure we
air out Crocs, just to piss Petros off. I don't
(19:30):
get it. I don't know what goes through your sick
and twisted mind that you think that's appropriate sports talk
radio here in the middle of a Thursday What.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You just do what you wanted to do, because now
we'll just cut to the chase.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Why didn't you just say I think Petros should wear
a Kiky Hernandez crock helmet on his foot, because that's
what you were really trying to set up. And it
kind of went AWRYE.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I've never heard somebody. I've never heard somebody so invested
in foot talk. Who are you? Rex? Ryan? What's the
matter with you?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Like it's like you're you're all about this stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, No, I don't have the foot fetish. I really don't.
What are you Rex? Ryan?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hey? By the way, can I ask you this? Where
do the would you consider the Diamondbacks arrival to the Dodgers? No, okay,
not even since the you know they they like to
jump in their pool and piss them off. Do you
think the Diamondbacks would like for the Dodgers to be
a rival and are sort of envious of the the
actual rivalry that the Dodgers have with the Padres and
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or the Giants, because the Diamondbacks feel like they're kind
of in no man's land.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And they are. I mean, when carbon Burns went on
the IL, they signed a guy for like five years
and a ton of doll they're what they're pitching. Their
pitching hasn't really been there this year. They haven't hit
as well as they should. Here's the thing. I think
the fans would like to create that that rivalry. I
don't think that exists. I think everything in the division,
because the West is so tight, those games mean so much.
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I think everybody gets excited for them. But I don't
think the Dodger players get up to play the Diamondbacks
like they do the Podres. Quite frankly, I'm not sure
they get up to play the Giants like they do
against the Padres. The Padres are the team now.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh yeah, well listen, I would agree. I think historically
it just means more to people who are longtime Dodger fans.
They remember and they sort of quote unquote harken back
to the good old days that maybe the Giants Dodgers
rivalry it sort of fits that mold. But I'm with you.
I think it's the Padres all the way. Another question
for you, since you are the Desert Dean and you
(21:41):
are very loyal to the state of Arizona, how many
people have they kept track of? How many people have
urinated in that pool at the Diamondbacks games? Where is
it Chase Park or whatever it's called, cha Chase Field?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
How many people have have been pre partying at Dan
Marley's bar across the street and stumbled over to that
swimming pool and just let it fly while the game's
going on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So okay, this does not count. When the Dodgers did it? Correct?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh did they urinate inside the pool?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Really.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is that a real story?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
No kidding?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But are we going to remove them?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, all right, So, so separating the Dodgers,
and do we have any names of Dodgers players that
you'd like to air out? Since you air out your
your your radio partner, Petros, your your brother in the
AM five seventy world, would you like to air out
anybody else on the Dodgers who urinated in the Diamondbacks pool.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And the end?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, I'm just saying. Jerry Harriston Junior was on
the show and he confirmed it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Okay, alright, well, I mean, if you're gonna do it,
why not go all the way?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right? I mean, well, did he confirm it? Let's put
it like this, He didn't deny it, so we took
that as confirmation. Yeah, but aside from the Dodgers and
one situation, let me think I would say one hundred
and forty seven.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it has to I was gonna say, I was
going to about to set the over under it one
forty six and a half. So, yeah, you narrowly hit
the over, But I was gonna say that that feels
like a move that you know, some of your drunk
friends in Arizona would pull off.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Have I drunk friends in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, just crawl into the pool and let it fly
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know what, I'll tell you what's truly said. I'll
tell you what's said. You know. So I went to
West High School in Phoenix, right, and then it became
a vocational school, so it really doesn't even exist in
its current form. But you get to a certain point
in life where you start hearing from people you went
to school with. You're not there yet, you're like two
years away from this, thank you, my pleasure. And when
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you hit this point in life, everybody, if you're there,
you know, and if not, you should get ready. You
start hearing from all these people from your past that
you haven't heard from, like in thirty years. True, But
everyone that calls you tells you about something that's bad. Well,
you heard about old Dan, didn't you. No, I haven't
(24:13):
talked to Dan in forty six years. It's not good.
He got run over by a tractor. Oh my god.
Well you know the story of Mike Carns, don't you.
Actually I don't. I haven't even talked to you in
thirty five years. Well, not good, not good, put on weight,
basically exploded and died. Oh my god, I'm starting to
(24:37):
get these calls from people, but every call is bad
and more bizarre than another one. I am telling you
somebody called me and said, yeah, tractor ran him over
and killed him. Oh God, this is awful. And I said,
why are you calling me? Why are you telling me this?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Because you're the desert dean.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, there's that. There's that. But I think at a
certain point in time and you, I think everybody will
find this out as you progress through life. People you
went to school with that you haven't heard from forever
somehow find your number in the depth of tragedy and
then they have to tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Now. Could it be them sort of passive aggressively asking you.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
If I'm alive.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, not if you're alive, but hey, you've got some stroke.
Could you start a GoFundMe page?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Could it be something like that? Maybe no one has.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Ever asked me the bottom of this. Oh that's fair,
But I just think it's normal human emotion. No one
has ever asked me, you know, you know what happened
to her? I really don't. Yeah, she fell off a
mountain and died. Can you start a gofund me? No,
no one's ever done.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
That, And knowing you had you gotten news that she
had fallen off a mountain and died, you would have,
instead of setting up a GoFundMe page, would have just
sent them a parachute, which which again disgusting behavior, but
that's par for the course. As we opened up this
show here on this Thursday, all.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Right, Kevin Durant is searching for a home. What home
will he end up in? Jonas Knox in today for
Rodney on a five to seventy LA Sports. Yeah, do
you think the Clipper should be a place for Kevin Durant?
Let's figure that out.
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Speaker 1 (26:50):
All right, a throwback Thursday. Jonas Knox is in today
for Rodney. So here's the deal. Kevin Durant, Jonas and
his representative are starting to consider possible destinations if the
Sons want to trade him. You know, he almost went.
He almost went during the trade deadline of the Warriors,
but now they're really considering it, and the Clippers could
(27:13):
be a destination. So let's start with that. Then I'll
have some thoughts on Kevin Durant. I think if the
Clippers got Kevin Durant, would they be better one hundred percent?
Would they win? Absolutely not. They would not win the
title because again, they'd have no depth. Because the pain
for Kevin Durant Jonas, You've got to just basically gut
your team. And I don't think that's a wise move.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What do you think, I mean, how would they learn
their lesson? You know, I haven't haven't made They've been
down this road where they you know, they're trying to
bring in the veteran and and you know, deplete their
depth to go ahead and chase that veteran, and then
I don't know, I just wonder if maybe there might
be a little bit gun shy considering who the MVP
(27:55):
is this year, where he came from previously, and what
he's done for that team, It seems like that would
not make the most sense in the world. I love
Kevin Durant. I'm a big Kevin Durant fan. He's on
one of the great players of this generation, obviously a
first bout Hall of Famer, But it just feels like
(28:16):
the idea of like, you're not trading for Kevin Durant
in his mid twenties, you're now trading for Kevin Durant
in his mid to late thirties. And I just don't
know that adding Kevin Durant gets you closer to a title.
I'm sorry, I don't think. I don't think it helps
close the gap to what OKC is and Denver and
(28:38):
whoever else you're going to be competing with over the
next X amount of years to try and win a title. Sorry,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I agree with you. It doesn't close the gap. And
then that brings you to this. Because Kevin Durant can play,
Nobody will say he won't make you better, But wherever
you were to send him, given the amount of money
he makes, it's a very tough situation to try and
create any depth. And then you're stuck. You're stuck. You
(29:09):
find yourself exactly where the Lakers were when they had
Russell Wesbrooke. You're stuck and I just don't think it
makes any sense. He makes too much money at the
right price point, Yeah, a million percent. You want him,
but if you get him, it's basically his team, and
then you have to surround him with guys. I don't
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think that's a recipe for success, he said.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Just on the Durant front, He's had a really bizarre
career if you think about it, because it's his whole
ability or openness to I want to go elsewhere, whether
it was I'm leaving OKC and I'm gonna, you know,
go to Golden Like people forget Kevin Durant's been in
(29:54):
the league so long now to this point that he
was drafted by the Sonnings and so to see him
go from I want to leave OKAC and I want
to go to Golden State. He wins a couple of
titles there. He's the best player on the Warriors. People
can sell Steph Curry all they want, Like who is
the finals MVP? It was it was Kevin Durant, like
he you know, and they may have won another one
(30:17):
had he not gotten hurt and Klay Thompson gotten hurt
in their matchup against Toronto. So he leaves all that
him and Kyrie Irving want to pair up because you
know he had a fall out with Draymond Green or
whatever happened there. He goes to Brooklyn, then he goes
to Phene. He's he is your typical modern day NBA
player where he didn't stay in one spot, was open
(30:40):
to moving around. And now I look at it and
I go It's just happened so many times throughout the
course of his career. Like if he does go to
when he goes to the Hall of Fame, you know
in Major League Baseball, you say, well, which which cap
is he going to wear in his Hall of Fame? Bust?
What would you consider Kevin Durant like who do Like
He's played three years at every stop not named OKAC.
(31:03):
Majority of his time in the NBA was in Oklahoma City.
Since then, he's just moved around and just kind of
had this traveling road show. It's just a really weird
career for a an all time great player.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, where what is he going to the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
As I don't I mean, you know what majority would say,
would say, okay, see, but his most success as a
team was Golden State.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That that's what it would be it'd be the Warriors. Yeah,
that's where he would go in.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And you're not getting that guy with the Clippers trade
for him. You're not getting that guy that the Clippers
would be trading for. Oh it's just like you're not
You're not. You're not getting anything close to that. So
why would they make the move? Okay, no they will.
I agree they should not, but I look at it
in a bigger picture. Really, at his price point is
(31:58):
he is he valuable to anybody. I'm not saying he's
not valuable, don't misunderstand. But if you bring him in,
it's a whole new ball game. It's a whole new situation, and.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You have to basically, unless you've got a lot of
cap room, And if you have a lot of cap room,
you're probably not going to bring him in because you
have to rebuild. You've got to change what you're doing.
I don't he makes too much money, period, And it's
great for the NBA. If you remember Tim Duncan when
he played for San Antonio, took less money, took less
(32:37):
money so they could continue to win. I don't know
if the Players Association would be a fan of that,
but I don't know where he goes, and despite his
incredible skill, makes that much of a difference because you
have to blow everything up. It's an interesting dilemma.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I mean, who's the if they were to land Kevin Durant,
Let's just say they pull this off Slippers trade for
Kevin Durant, Who's the more interesting team to watch next year?
Lakers are Clippers. If they add Kevin Durant, It's to
me it would still be the Lakers because of the
Luca Lebron dynamic. So even if even the Clippers going
(33:18):
out and adding this future Hall of Fame or even
in his age, I don't know that that necessarily closes
the gap from an interest level from the Clippers to
the Lakers. But the Lakers are going to have Lebron
and apparently in all of a sudden in shape Luka Doncic,
which I don't I don't know if you've seen any
of that stuff going around. I don't know if it's Ai.
I don't know what we got working on with. But
(33:39):
Lucas looks like he's lost a considerable amount of weight,
which he had to and was forced to because you
fat shamed him on the air for months when he
first got here.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Now, what is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
What do you mean? Like you fat shamed the guy?
So now he's now he's out there. The guy hasn't
eaten a single thing since the season ended. He's basically
Tom Hanks on an island having an affair with a
volleyball in a movie because you aired him out and
called him fat on the air multiple times over when
Luca first got here.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Look, I never called him fat. You're aware of that.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I don't know why you have to start that kind
of thing. I don't know why you have to go there.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I mean maybe that's why Kevin Durant would be hestant
to coming here as well too. He doesn't want to
have to deal with the blowback of the Desert Dean,
especially especially if he's leaving Phoenix your team to come
to the Clippers. Does he want to deal with that rath?
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't know, Well, there won't be any wrath, but
you know, it's just it. I think he's become this guy. Now,
Oh my god, let's get him. There are those guys.
Oh my god, let's get him. Kevin Durant. We gotta
get him. I just he makes too much money, and
(34:55):
he should make all the money he can. But he's
actually hurting the he's actually hurting the team, not helping it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That he by the way, he could still score the basketball,
no question, guy average twenty sixty game last year, Like
he can still score.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Like that's not questioning that. Yeah, that's not even an argument. Yes,
he can still score, but at his price point, it
really alters everything you're trying to do. I'd stay away
from him. I would. Yeah, it's the kind of thing
if the Lakers could they go get them, then they'd
(35:31):
have Luca, Lebron, Durant and nobody else. That'd be the
whole team. Three guys would play five every night and Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
James and then now would Lebron Now would Durant play
center because he is a debatable seven foot Yeah, yeah,
if you didn't like you know, Jackson Hayes or anybody
else that tried to step in there, Maxi Klieba, who
basically added, you know, I don't know if anything was
working below the waist, but when JJ Riddick decided to
throw him in there, like would you would you just
(35:59):
play Durant at the five and let him be a
center to close out his career. That'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It would be fun. But again, they'd only have three players,
so you have to play center. What you would do
is you'd have Kevin Durant play center, Lebron would play forward,
and look it would play guard, and that would be
your whole team. You played three on five every night
because you couldn't afford anybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
All nice like the Big Three tournament. They'd be their
own Big Three tournament like you four in the five
exactly then, and by the way, for those of you
dismissing that idea from Fred, I can understand why. But
also it is it is an Olympic sport. Now you
know three on three basketball is an Olympic sport. I
think Jim or Ferdett, who once competed against guys in
(36:40):
a prison somewhere. He was part of the three on
three USA team who didn't even meddle last time around.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I understand Jonas, but being in the Big Three, they
would lose to a team of five players. You're aware
of that, right.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, I mean I'm understanding of that, But I just
think that you know, it is a hell of an idea.
Would you not be entertained by the idea of the
Lakers saying, Hey, listen, we're going to try a whole
new approach here. Sure, we're going to go lebron Kevin, Durant, Luca.
You put whatever five you want out there.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this. Yeah,
do the Lakers have any reserves for their three guys?
They have Bronny, but they're only going to play three
at a time.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Do you need anybody else?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, So what you're suggesting is the Lakers have four
players on their roster, yeah, okay, and the other teams
have twelve full bench, right, So to start the game,
to start the game, are you going to play Bronni
full time or is he going to be the reserve?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You got to have a reserve, yeah, I mean, and
I don't know. Obviously there would be some load management
issues as well too, So Bronni, you could bring him
in and look, JJ Reddick can probably still shoot. It's
you know, it's boxing, they say. The last thing they
go on a fighter is his power. The last thing
to go on on a basketball player is a shot.
So if you really were in a jam, like if
you know, for whatever reason, Lebron could make it one
(38:10):
night because there was traffic or something like that. You
could throw in JJ Reddick to as part of the rotation.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So that's fair. You can have a player coach too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, so now they have five players, but only three
will play at a time.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
So the question becomes, if that in fact was the case,
would they win one game?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh, there's some bad teams. There are some bad teams
out there, and and there's also some teams that are
that are very open to tanking it. And I could
I could see a couple of teams and look, it
is the NBA. You're never quite sure who's got money
on what. So there there is the possibility that, look,
(38:55):
I'll say this, if you were to if you were
to tell me right now, you've got Lebron James Kevin Durant,
and you've got Luka Doncic versus whatever, starting five the
Wizards throwout. I'll take the Lakers, okay, and especially if
I'm getting points.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
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By the way, we got a lot down there, Fred,
I know we did.
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You got Venmo. Well, if you do, I know one
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Speaker 2 (40:14):
Hell, yeah, Tomato, it's been two thousand and nine. Yeah, damn?
Time flies?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, two thousand and nine. Time fly in that weird?
Does it seem like time is moving faster now? Or no?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Were you at the beast back then?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I can't remember two thousand and nine. Well, let's see
next year it will be my return here ten years,
so that's twenty fifteen. I could have been there, but
I still I could have been here, actually, Jonas, because
I was here, then I jumped over and then I
came right back.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You were poached.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't know if I was poached. Well, I was
poached the first time. I was poached by the beast
because we feed on La sports.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, you know what, Apparently we didn't have that voracious
of an appetite. But uh, yeah, I was poached and
then that I left, and then I came right back here.
I was done there Monday, and I was back here Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Wow. Yeah, you don't wait long?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Why? Yeah, like I never left. I came in. I
think I filled it into the afternoon show. I sat
down with Petros and then he gave me crap for
three hours. Welcome back. Oh you're back, Okay, Like I
never left. Uh, Scottie Scheffler's got a problem. See this
(41:43):
gambling and you're you're all into gambling, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Everything with you is geez okay, everything with you that guy, Okay,
I'm Tim Donahey, all of a sudden, all right, okay.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, you're Tim donahey right, everything everything, your money, well,
you see being able to play prize picks and fan
duel and underdog. By the way, have you done any
one of those three?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, they're great, I've done them.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah. I got to streak up to eight one time.
If I had got to nine, I would have won.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I mean it's look, here's my philosophy on sports betting,
all right, because some people will look down on it
still to this day, and I call it the ultimate condiment.
It's like you sit down at a restaurant, the chicken's
a little bland, you add a little hot sauce to it.
All of a sudden you can tolerate it. Do you
(42:34):
know how many bad sporting events I've been watching and said,
you know what, I could use a little hot sauce,
throw some money on it. Next thing, you know, all
of a sudden, it tastes that much better. It's the
ultimate sports condiment, and people should be more open to
the idea of using it more.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
And that being said, if you don't win, are you
choking on your food?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I just have to take money out of my son's
piggy bank.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Oh that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah. And by the way, by the way, I've blown
through at least thirty percent, at least thirty percent of
whatever he's gotten from the in laws.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, and here's the deal. And I think it's a
valid point. And maybe it's just a tip for everybody
listening today. If you are involved in any type of betting,
you know, be it prize picks, fan, dual underdog, or
if you go to Vegas and you can actually bet
on the games, make sure you take that money from
your kids. Just do it like that. Yeah, it's a look,
(43:33):
they're not going to miss it. And if you win,
you replace it and you take the winnings and you
can say, and I've bought your new shoes. I've only
done it for you. That's the way to handle this.
If you're going to bet, just take the money from
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah. My wife was like, you know, hey, our son
still walking around and you know, he's four years old now,
but he's still walking around and you know clothes that say,
you know, for twelve to eighteen months, and we do
something about this. I was like, can we do something
about this? Why don't you tell the Edmonton Oilers to
do something about it exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
We wanted to tell that no good, you know what,
Connor McDavid.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, Like, listen, I've got to sacrifice potentially my relationship
with Fred and how he feels about the Oilers to
try and win a bet. So if you don't like
the fact that our kids walking around and some shirt
he had when he was eleven months old with mustard
stains on it, I don't know what to tell you.
He smells like Gerber and Hines for the rest of
his life unless the Oilers can figure this out and
score a goal.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And what's the old line? I don't know why your
wife's upset. I mean, Jim Hill, does it wear it
long enough? It always comes back into style.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Oh geez, why's Jim Hill got to catch a stray?
I'm just saying, what did he just mine in his
own business? And you got to take a shot at
Jim Hill.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I didn't take a shot at him. It's a statement
of fact.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
If Jim Hill can wear the same stuff since nineteen
ninety two, why can't your sign wear the same stuff
that's when he was two years old?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
This is I mean, this is really problematic. So you
took a shot at Petros to start. You took a
shot at Jim Hill to close up the hour. Who's
getting the next hour? Rob Fukuzaki, Come on, Fred, have
a heart. These are these are your contemporaries.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I didn't take it as a matter of fact. Now
since you bring it up. Petros texted me, why did
you have to do this?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I couldn't read. I couldn't read what what he sent
to me on the air, so I kind of had
to dress it up a little bit. Yeah, right, what
did he send you? Was it something along?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Just he wanted to make sure I knew why he
wore crops, And I said, but I didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I got the same thing. I got the same thing.
I didn't know. I did not know that there was
there was a reason behind him wearing crocs, and you
had to call him out for that.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
And I never dispute I said, I didn't dispute it.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And now, Jim Hill, nobody's safe.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Anyway. Let's deal with your gambling obsession. Okay, oh great,
you know we can't even deal with your gambling obsession.
Now we're out of time. We'll do it next hour,
Fred Rogan, Jonas Knox at five to seventy LA Sports.
You know what, Let's give a pair of tickets away
for the Dodgers and Padres next week. Should we do that?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
You go with that, Joe, Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
It's six six, nine eighty seven two five seventy. That
is the number to call who wants to see the
Dodgers and Padres next week. We're gonna do it all afternoon.
We'll start it right now. Call her for good luck.
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