June 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Jose Mota, who had a front row seat to Shohei Ohtani's 2-way pralice in Anaheim, joins us to talk about Ohtani's pitching debut with the Dodgers. Despite the bad blood from Mark Williams and the Hornets, could the Lakers re-visit a trade for the big man? If you RSVP for a wedding and don't show up, should you have to pay the bride and groom for the food you didnt eat?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peete on AM five
seventy LA Sports. It's the day after the day after show.
Hao Tany threw exactly one inning, but still it was
the biggest event in town. One inning. And joining us,
someone who was there part of the Spanish radio broadcast
for the Dodgers sometimes sits in on our radio broadcast
(00:24):
here on AM five seventy. He is everywhere. He is
our friend, Jose Mota. Jose, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am everywhere about show.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, come on now, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But before we get started, Before we get started, how's
your dad doing?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
My dad is doing quite well. Thank god, he's well
into his recovery rehabilitation. Get a chance to spend time
with him, and as rehabit watching work hard and certainty
now that he's been to the ballfark and seeing a
couple of games, I'm telling you, his spirits are lifted
way higher. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh that's amazing. We're so happy to hear that, and
that and that's crazy right about just sometimes being in
an environment that makes you happy will lift your spirits
and also sometimes give you that rejuvenation that you need
to help with your your rehabilitation as well. Man. So
that's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It is you know, I'm going to share something with
you guys, very personal about this whole process. And I
hope I have time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I won't take long, but take your time, take your time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was talking. I was talking to Tony Gwyn Jr.
Who obviously I played with Tony Gwyn and Junior was
a young kid when I was a Potters in ninety one.
I was talking to Aaron Boone and they were asking
about my dad, right, and I'm like, isn't it interesting
that all three of us could just look at our
superheroes that person that we see is like invincible, untouchable, indestructible,
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and all of a sudden, there's the age is like,
you know, the ballplayer image is not there anymore? Right,
my dad? Hey me, fun goals?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Throw me BP Dad, Take me here, Dad. And it's
like wow, and it's all like, you know, life at you,
hob where you go. You know what in perspective that
our parents gave us, that's been the best help because
now you see yourself as somebody in the entire family
helping them out. By the same time, it's like, wow,
they got to stood there and saw Nola ran in
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the Battis box, right, the Tony Gwynn that just bombarded everybody,
and in the you know, Bob Boone that caught so
many you know, palbows to the mask and things like that,
and you know, obviously they're all going through their own thing.
But it's quite interesting. I just want to give you
that perspective because it relates to the fans, it relates
to everybody out there and non fans also, but without
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the fact that we face things like that and when
it hits us, we just trust that they've done the
right thing to make sure that them iso care of us,
we take care of them.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, no, no doubt, no doubt. Man, I certainly can
relate to that. My dad was a coach and I
just was thankful that I got to got a chance
to be in that environment and he brought me along
and gave me access to places that I think the
kids that I knew, friends that I had didn't have
access to. So it benefited me, you know, my whole life.
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And still to this day, I still appreciate what he
was able to do for me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's a good thing. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, it is absolutely it is and always Our love
for for your family is always there, man, you know that.
So you have a unique perspective on show. Hey o
Tani because you you're really you covered him, you saw
him on a regular basis down in Anaheim, and now
he's with the Dodgers, and the Dodger fans got the
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first really real glimpse of him being a pitcher and
a hitter. And we've seen it from afar, but to
get it up close and personal for for Dodger fans.
Can you explain, you know what that was like for
for the Angels down there to have this guy be,
you know, at the top of his game on the
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mound and then on the top of his game at
the plate and seeing that happen in real time on
the same day.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh, to me is what a privilege to see this
dominant figure who's become an iconic around the world of
baseball globally, not just locally, but to see him when
he first came and do the first interview with him,
and then through the years, you know, dozens of interviews
with him, but also get to know him personally and
to see the development of showing from the tombody struggled,
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and he was getting his bat knocked out of his
hands a spring training in twenty eighteen, to the doubts
that people had about is this guy for real or not?
He couldn't get anybody out, he couldn't throw strights, and
he just couldn't hit. All of a sudden, there he
is show hill Tony, but just keeping a show on
the angel side. I just see the development. And also
I've seen the dark side of you know, the things
that he has to face with the injuries and the
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surgeries and all those things and many distractions, and his focus,
my people, has always been on his baseball, trying to
be the best player, best version, best athlete, best teammate,
and best citizen. He could be, I mean in two
different continents, right. But to see this as a Dodger,
let me tell you there's no comparison. There's no explanation
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I can give to tell you the impact this hat
all around the world. And one thing that I was
sharing with David vest Say the night before was You'll
see a more intense Shohil Tani on the mount He's
a different monster on the mountain. I mean, he is
showing the emotions he is going to show you if
he doesn't like a call. And it's just so different
from the guy that we see when he hits, even
though he is actually more expressive now as a Dodger
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than he was ever as an angel. And the other
thing is, I was, you know, telling the found to
get there early because you're going to watch this guy
come out before anybody else, any of us teammates, because
of the routines he has to go through. And there
was people with their cameras ready to show it comes
out at six twenty seven, six twenty eight, and just
to watch this phenomenon going. Oh, by the way, he's
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so pitching. Oh wait, he's batting today too. It is
just amazing. But to do it under the big life
of LA with this organization in Dodger Whites at home
is absolutely remarkable. The results. I know he wanted them
to be there. I talked to show half of the
game yesterday. He was not happy about the novel strikeyout
call and not happy about allowing to run, but quite happened.
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Please about what he saw coming out of his arm
because it was pretty much electric.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Ose here's what's funny, because you saw him in Anaheim
and I said this earlier. I saw him pitch in
Anaheim and hitting Anaheim in the same game. I saw
him in a doubleheader with the Tigers. I think he
pitched the first game and won at two home runs
in the second game or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, but the guy's pitched.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Everybody knows he can pitch. He has performed on the
mound well for whatever reason. One ending with the Dodgers.
Trump's anything he's ever done. Pitching for the Angels, didn't it?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
See it seemed though. I mean, I think we all
forgot that he gave up a run, you know what
I mean. It's like, no, no, he was just the
shoal Tony was on and it's like, so what, he
gave up a run, So what we knew? One thing?
How about you as a as a pitcher giving up
a run and k you yourself as a batter, not
not soon after going out there and just taking care
of that run yourself. It's it's crazy. Who would have
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ever thought this was gonna happen to this the mission
Because it's not just the fact that he can do
both things. He can do both things at an elite level.
Choil Tani in case many don't know he was fourth
and saw young in twenty twenty two when he won
fifty to nine, you know, in a year that was
Roland of the winner and he threw one hundred and
sixty sixth innings. So it's not just like, oh, you know,
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just give us an outing like a number five starter
and just get through because there's a great story. No,
he is a premier guy that wants to be at
the top of his game at every single level, every
single phase. And to me, it's almost like, how do
you go out there and compare with anybody? You can't
compare with anybody. I mean eleven strikes us for nine
innings in his career and allowing under seven hiss per
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nine innings in his career. How do you find that?
Because he's not a financica guy, he's a power guy
that actually pitches a little lot of finesse.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's really incredible. And you know,
there's Jose. There's a lot of a lot of kids
grow up when you start literally it's you know, guys
play shortstop in their pitcher. You know, you see the
you know, the best guys on the team. They do
multiple things. But they also they really they pitch and
they play a specific position and they hit the ball well.
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And that happens and maybe through high school and if
some guys are lucky up, it happens in college a
little bit, but rarely do you see it happen, you know,
at the major league level. I'm thinking, you know, in
my mind as I'm watching o' taani do this, I
had a chance to really watch Hunter Green play here
locally at Notre Dame High School, and he was a
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tremendous shortstop and and it really had a tremendous bat
and chose to go the pitching route. And I don't
know if he could certainly, uh, you know the guy
you think about, you know, throwing over one hundred miles
an hour and also having a tremendous bat thing. Oh,
he's the guy could probably do the same thing. But no,
it's a uniqueness that Otani has to be able to
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do that and compartmentalize both positions. Arm are we seeing something,
Jose that you think younger and more kids will try
to attempt or try to force on their high school
coach or college coach to try to do both. Or
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is this something that you think clubs might be looking
for or is this a trend or is this just
a unicorn that we're seeing with him? And this is
not something that's going to be any kind of trend.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I'm gonna go in two ways here. Just after Otani
came to the big leagues, you started hearing more and
more teams, Oh, we're gonna draft this guy because perhaps
he could become a two way player. Some players that
were failing in one or the other were actually asked
to hit or to become pictures during that time when
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it was hot, and like, oh my god, this guy
can do it to this level. But it's not that easy, man.
I mean, and I am one to tell you that
I want young players to challenge themselves mentally and physically
to not be limited to one position. And it's going
to get up to a point where your size, how
you grow, your development, your arm, your your strength and
the hitting and all that stuff. Hand eye coordination's gonna
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where you're going to go. But just take it to
the limit and to the extreme, knowing that to develop
to be a big league player and contribute, you're going
to have to choose one side because you want to
do something good. It's going to keep you in the
big leagues. I'm not saying that nobody else can do it,
but at this level, it's going to be hard to
find again in many, many years, and who knows, decades
or generations somebody who can do it at this level
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or so long and be an attraction globally and not
get distracted but show Hey in fact challenged the teams
in Japan when he was in high school throw one
hundred and one miles an hour, and he said, I want
to continue to be a two white player. And he
told me the story he goes and he was actually
readier to come to the US if that hadn't happened
until the team at Hokkaido, which is a comparable team
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to say the way Tampa Bay team thinks, for example, right,
they're like, we're going to promise you if we draft you,
that you're going to be a two way player. And
that was the end of it. Was like, thank you
very much. This is all I know, is what I
want to know. So it took the group of people
support system himself to set some high, lofty goals, but
also took somebody to say I'm going to take a
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chance so if somebody took a chance, and here we
are Jose.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So he went an inning last night, gave up a run,
got the run back. You know, he probably I think
he did twenty five pitches. He probably wants to go
pitch again tonight. If everybody knows him the way they
think they do next outing, how much longer do you
think they let him go? Is it innings, is it pitches?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What do you think it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Kinds are going to be like the first thing, he's
going to take the second on it. But at some
point you're going to go out and know that he's
got to get to forty forty five pitches. And I
always say that Lee the way you see the way,
today's a big day obviously because he had to pitch
a long time. We'll see how it reacts for everything
that he act. You know, had to go through twenty
eight pitches in a big league game against the powder
Is at Doller Stadium. I guarantee I felt like sixty
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pitches in the same game. That's how your body responds
to that. So I think that overall you have to
continue to just prolong leiche, give him a longer leash,
know that he's coming back in the second inning, and
beyond that, you know that the season progresses, you're no
rush to get him the seven innings or six innings
because you know that you need him as a pitcher.
And I don't think I'm gonna throw in here is this,
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Shohil Tony sometimes has to be protected from Showhill Tony,
And I mean this in the best respectful way. He
needs to be told sometimes just take a day and
just watch the game, which Dave Roberts did quite well
last year when he thought he did, and Show he
obviously accepted it very well. But you got to communicate
that with him and know that he's not twenty five
anymore and thirty things changed and you want to make
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sure he's in one piece going into the endless season,
hopefully into October. But I to expect him go a
little bit longer, for no doubt. That's that's what he
wants to do. He wants to be a contributing starting pitcher.
Knowing that, and part of the decision to come back
this early was he knew exactly how depleted the rotation is.
He knew the need for guys out of the bullpen.
So this is not a decision about let's make this
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happen because it's a great spectacle. Knows about what the
team needs, as he did with his salary. This makes
sense right now. So why throw those bullets as managers
like to say, in a SIM game, when you're throwing
with command and you're responding, well, use them in a game,
thank you, bullpening games. This happens, But he wants to
be a full contributor on the mound the way that
he was with the Angels.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, and that's that's easier said than done, right because
from all accounts, it was show hay after throwing you know,
those SIM games and then going back and cooling off
and then coming back to DH. It was more him
going to the Dodgers saying, hey, I'm ready to go. Oh,
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I'm ready to go in a game because all of
you know, we reported and that everybody did you know
prior to this that he's not coming back into the
after the All Star break, after the All Star break.
That was the timetable, and then it got pushed up
and and it was I guess more than and you
can confirm this or or whatever that it was him
going to the Dodger saying I want to pitch now.
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I'm ready to go. So as this goes forward, as
Fred said, you know what do they what's the least
on the next game? Is it forty pitches? Forty five pitches?
And he comes to them and says, I need to
stretch out a little bit more. It's going to take
a lot for the Dodgers to say no push back
on that, because, like you said, they're going to have
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to protect him from himself.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Right. But you know the purpose of the rehab which
actually remembered this. He was actually on schedule or projected
to pitch at May and spring training because of the
shoulder surgery that he had last off season and his
non throwing shoulder. It was like, we have all these guys,
we have more depth. Let's just not push this. But
if he saw on throwing the spring training, it was
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not like holding back. He was throwing the ball and
working on pitches and watching everything that came back on
the research and feedback. But because we have had a
little prolonged area now and the buffers a little bit
longer now, it's a matter of no, if we're going
to do this, I'm going to be this who I
need to be for your team to be a better
ball clan, to help out the rotation in the bullpen.
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And his stuff was marvelous and he's been working on
one thing, that movement. He wanted movement. So yesterday we
saw a lot of the two seamed fastball that he
he's thrown before, but we saw that he wanted to
really put that into action with a nice sinker all
in ninety seven ninety eight in the zone, out of
the zone. At times, as we say, he was pulling
some pitches because he was amped up. But moy, the
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ball coming out of his hand was so hot and
that's pretty exciting. Obviously, you can project quite well with that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right, old thanks for coming on, great stuff and
really good talking to you. Happy to hear about your.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Dad, Yes, sir, thank you so much. Guys, keep it
up all.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Right, our good buddy, Jose Motive Uh, David Vasse. We'll
have more on o'tany's performance last night and he'll join
the show at two. So we didn't think he was
healthy the first time. Do you think he got healthy?
Let's figure it out.
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Speaker 3 (16:32):
Talk Fluid Glow and the Stallion. Come on, Rodney, Pete,
fred Rogain on a Tuesday, Come on Freddy.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, Rodney, David Vassil joined the program and he'll
be along right at the top of the two o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Mm hmm. You know that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Tonight Florida. I just want to toss this in real quick.
Florida can win the Stanley Cup. Yes, tonight, Florida, they
can win the Stanley Cup. They can beat Edmonton as
well they should, but you are on your knees praying
that Florida.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Does beat Edmonton because Edmonton, of all of the teams
in any sports league, you hate the most.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, I do. I absolutely hate them, and I think
it would be such sweet, sweet, poetic justice for Florida
to do it again to them and crush the hopes
and dreams of the Oilers. And when you really think
about great legendary and hl franchises, those that will live
in the annals of history, you just don't think the
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Florida Panthers. And they've done it. I mean they're really good.
They proved that last year.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah. Yeah, they've won multiple multiple uh NHL Cups, man
and and and yeah, but you don't think of them
as like, what a big time NHL championship organization you
You just don't. It doesn't roll off the tongue like
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the Edmonton Oilers or the New York Rangers or the
Chicago Blackhawks, you know, I mean, it just doesn't roll
off the tongue like that. But they've had a tremendous
amount of success and not a long time for it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, look at it like this. Tampa Bay is a
very good hockey club. Florida is a very good hockey club.
Carolina is a very good hockey club. But when you
think of hockey teams, what do you think? Montreal, Toronto, Detroit,
Boston Rangers, stuff like that. The other markets that are
not in the original six are pretty good. And I'll
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tell you something else. And this has got to be
calling to the people in Canada even more so if
the Oilers come up short again. It's hard for Canada
to win a Stanley Cup. It has been, hasn't it.
Oh yeah, it used to be. Tell you what Montreal
is in there? Why even play they.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Got, give them play. The Canadians are gonna win it
again and the Oilers are gonna win it again up
and they had Gretzky and Messier is like nobody has
a chance. Nobody has a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Different now, different U, Sun Belt States, Florida very well.
King's obviously hope to get over the hump next year,
but they've made the playoffs. Dallas Stars, Yeah, Dallas Star's tough.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They are they are. Are they better organization now that
they're in Dallas as opposed to Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Probably probably they're a better team than they were
in Minnesota. Minnesota got another team, the Wild. Yeah, that's
a good hockey market Minneapolis St. Paul Absolutely good hockey
market at Big ten at Big ten hockey is I
don't know if people out here realize how big hockey
is in the in the Big Ten conference. USC is
gonna have to get a team and get a real
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good team and put that together.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That would be interesting. You know, teams like USC and
UCLA that hockey not you know, one of their sports,
but the fact that they're in the Big Ten, now,
do you think it becomes one? I think it should.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You don't have got a very good college hockey team.
You're gonna laugh. Arizona State. Really, Arizona State's got a
hell of a hockey team. That's where the Phoenix Coyotes
played in the Arizona State Arena when they got kicked
out of Glendale before they were deported from the state
to Utahe wow, I did not know that. I did
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not know Arizona State had a really good hockey program.
Got a hell of a hockey team. H hell of
a hockey team.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So as Florida can wrap things up against Edmonton, okaysee
next outing can wrap things up against the Pacers, that
would conclude the NBA season, and that would mean we
would start looking toward the future. Although if you're a
team not in the finals, you are already looking toward
the future.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Would the Lakers try to make another deal for Mark
Williams of a Hornets? They need a cent. We know
they thought they had a deal in place, which actually
I think would have made a huge difference. But then
for some mysterious reason, they said he didn't pass the physical.
I've never heard why he didn't pass the physical, because
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he went back and played. And Kevin correct me if
I'm wrong. He did play. It's not like he went
out there for one game and broke his leg.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Played pretty damn well too, played pretty much, not all,
but the great majority of.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The stretch of the season. Right, Yeah, he did so.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And did anybody ever hear why what the physical problem was,
because I'd never heard that.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Whatever it was, they were concerned about his long term
future and if they were going to trade for him,
it was going to be with the idea that they're
going to sign him to an extension to be the
center that Luca plays next to for the next however
many years. So it wasn't about right now. It was
like a ticking time bomb situation and whatever they found
all right, So how that would have potentially changed now
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in the offseason because they're more desperate than still need
a center.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You would think those same concerns, whether you finish the
season healthy or not, would still be there.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, if that's what it was, you know, weren't forecasting
down the road. We just took an MRI a your knee,
and it looks like in a year it's going to
fall off. You'll be fine now, but we can tell
this is not good. Then you wouldn't go out and
trade and be laughing about what are you laughing about?
Would fall off what I'm just saying. And okay, so
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now you can't find a center. Let's go with this now.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I will say before we move on for it, that
there was a thought and remember they made this trade
literally at the deadline, so there's a thought that maybe
the Lakers they saw this, they would have been able
to go back if they had more time and revise
the trade and not given up as much. So they
still would have taken them, but they would not have
given up I believe it was connect a first round
pick and a pick swap is what they initially offered.
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Maybe they would have offered something else, so they still
would have potentially acquired them, They just wouldn't want to
acquire them for the amount of assets they sent out.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, so that mean when called up, they they dodge
a bullet, they wouldn't have to give up as much,
knowing what they know now.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Correct if they if they could have gone back to
the drawing board and say, hey, this is what we found.
We still want them, but not at that price point.
We want to give you guys less than what we
were gonna give you before. Now Charlotte would have signed
up for that, who knows?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But ye that I think that'll work real well now, listen.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, considering what Charlotte said in their statement afterwards. Yeah,
and the fact that Mark Williams tweeted out a smiling
emoji after the Lakers got eliminated by Minnesota, there's lots
of men there.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it's it's kind of like, okay, guys, Hey, so
we didn't have enough time to really pull it off
last time, but now we're back, by guns, be bygones.
We're gonna give you a third of what we offered
the first time. You in, you're with us. Now, we're
just gonna give you a third of what we offered.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Who's in?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Send them over right now? How's that that's not gonna work?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Who's gonna do that? Hey?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Listen, guys, Sorry, we know we made you look like fools,
so you know they'll hold us against this. We got
a new plan. We'll take them, but we're not going
to give you as much as we did the first
time when we made you look like fools. Are you
in you want to pull the trigger on that one?
Let's shake shake, when we made you look like fools.
(24:20):
You think that's in the language of the deal. Well,
I think that Charlotte will included, okay, deal points. Let's
see you made us look like fools. Okay, yeah, Well
Kevin's saying that, I think it's a not a great
possibility of that happening. Probably not all right, So that
leads to this, what if it is what it is?
(24:44):
You can't really find the big guy you want? Brook
Lopez being mentioned, Uh, stopgap, you can't find the guy
you want. So basically a little bit here, a little
bit there, but it is what it is. It's status quo.
The same group comes back. If the same exact group
(25:05):
comes back, just you know, tweak it a little bit, Rodney,
you think they're good enough to win the title?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The same group? I actually do, be honest with you,
I think given as a complete off season, and yes,
there was some glaring holes. The rem protector was an issue.
And can can Jackson Hayes progress or is we or
(25:34):
have we seen the best of what he's got? Or
can he get better that? That obviously is a big question.
But everything else, I think they do have the makings
and the the actual talent if used correctly, because I
think they you know, and JJ's first year and then
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you know them kind of figuring it out, certain guys
didn't and injuries, you know, playing a big part of that.
Remember they traded for gay Vincent being thinking he was
going to be a very big part of this run.
So I just I think they I think they they
do to make a deep end. I'm gonna say win,
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maybe not win a title, like off the top of
my top of my head, but I think they got
a chance to to go deep if they have a
full offseason of all those guys working together.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I do, yeah, I think they can make a run.
I think they'll come up short. I think they do.
Need they got to get a room portray.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
There would be some glaring details when they get deep
into the playoffs if they get to the Western Conference finals.
Obviously you know the rim protection. But again it goes
back to can one or two of these young guys
take to the next level? Can they can't? I don't know.
Can can Dalton Connect figure out a way to be
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serviceable on defense or grow.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Five inches and play center? That's another possibility.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's not going to happen. But but maybe you can
grow five inches, fred That is my dreams. I've been
telling you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Listen, I'm giving you my dream, and I've shared it
with others. My goal, my goal is to grow another
foot and back up and be twenty five years old
and play in the NBA. I don't know if I'll
accomplish that. I want to grow up you like you'd
be like Fletch. I want to be like Fletch. I
(27:38):
want to play in the NBA. Is it appropriate to
ask for money back in a certain situation?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We will discuss that next.
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Is it something like that, Roddy fred Roch, Let's go
(28:24):
come on, Freddy?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
All right, come on, Uh, here's a dileuma.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Just answer. You're throwing a.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wedding, all right, okay, everybody throwing it I'm throwing it. Yeah,
one of us is throwing a wedding. Everybody RSVPs. Right,
what is that for? What gives you a count? What's
the count for how many meals you're ordering? I mean, really,
that's what it is. And it's based on number of
people times the cost of the meal. That's what the
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thing costs, plus the venue rental. But let's just talk
about meals. So everybody, uh, one hundred people, one hundred people,
RSVP What do you want?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Chicken or fish?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They tell us what you want? We order a hundred meals. Yeah,
for whatever reason, ten people don't show up, right, and
you can imagine out of town, personal issue, forgot whatever.
Ten people don't show up. That means you say, forgot,
(29:22):
forgot all right, Well, we don't know. I mean maybe
they've been drinking.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
We don't know. Oh, we don't know. I don't know
what they're got, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That means you just bought ten meals, right, yes, okay,
well that costs real money.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So what happened was in this situation, people that did
not show up for the wedding, the bride demanded that
they pay her fifty dollars because each meal.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Was fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So if you rsvped but you didn't show up, now
you have to pay us fifty dollars for not coming,
because that's how much food was. We're going to charge
you because we paid for you and you didn't show up.
What do you think of that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Were Listen, I've been on both sides of this, And
when I was really young, in college or fresh out
of college, I didn't really understand the whole etiquette world
of events and rsvping and what that meant. And then
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I didn't understand the lengths and what all went into
planning a particular event because most of them I showed
up and had a good time and call it a day.
And as time I started to have events on my
own and knew what knew what was involved, and knew,
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you know, how difficult it was and how taxing it
was to put on on an event and the cost
of the event, and I had a whole different and
new perspective on that whole world from that side, And
I will tell you the latter is obviously more stressful,
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and you do take things personally when somebody does not
show up, especially if it's one thing to not show
up at all. But it's another thing to RSBP and
then not show up, because, especially at a wedding where
things are marked up and you're planning this and you
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have a select number of people that you can invite
and it's a very very special day, you just want
the common courtesy of someone saying, hey, listen, I cannot
make it something came up if you just don't show
up after you've rsvped. I don't know if I asked
(32:07):
for the money or anything like that, but I have
a problem with you, and I have a problem if
you're not coming to me. Say how do I make
it up to you or how I can you know,
rectify the situation. I' you know, I don't know what
it costs per plate, but let me chip in for
something or I'll get you a nice gift or whatever
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it may be. Yeah, I have a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
No, I get it, And everything you said makes sense,
except you're not going to turn around and tell the guy, Okay,
each plate was one hundred and twenty five bucks, give
me two fifty. You're not gonna do that. You want
to double They want to double, well, two plates. I'm
just saying, let's say it was one hundred and twenty five. Yeah,
give me two, write me a check for two fifty,
call it even.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, you won't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You're not gonna send something out to people and go, Okay,
you didn't show up, transfer this amount of money into
my account. It's awful that they would do it. It's
rude and yeah, sure maybe they should try to do
something to make.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Up for it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But you can't do that. You can't say pay me.
I mean, well, remember it. It might even end our friendship.
But I don't think you can turn around and go
give me a check you didn't show I mean, if
you convinced twenty five people not to show up, then
it's going to be a different conversation. Then I'm going
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to try to hold you financially responsible. But I don't
think you can go and say pay me.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
No. No, if it's you know, like you said, if
it's uh, you know, one to three or four couples
that just didn't show up and didn't call you and
didn't let you know they weren't coming, and there was
an empty place setting for two people at a table,
and a lot of times it depends on the wedding,
especially if there's you know there is planned out seating
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right for making sure, especially from the bride's PERSPECTI of
making sure the people at this particular table gets along
with the other people at the table, because you don't
want any kind of controversy at your wedding, and you
certainly don't want it at the reception, and you want
to make sure everybody is peaceful and gets along. So
there's a lot of effort that goes into it, and
(34:18):
I am very, very sympathetic to all of what goes
into planning a wedding or a major event. But yeah,
it would be difficult to go back to someone and say, Okay,
you didn't show up, give me two fifty. I would
hope that the people that were on that list, or
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people that I even attempted to ask to come to
my wedding would have the courtesy to say, I'm sorry
I didn't show up. Here, here is the check for
whatever that it may have cost you for this plate.
I would hope that the people that had that kind
of integrity that I invited to my wedding would do that.
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But not everybody does. Fred.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Unfortunately, all right, when we come back out to Dodger
State and we go David Vase is standing by we'll
get his take on Sho hal Toni's performance last night
We continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Peete on AM five
seventy LA Sports. It's the day after the day after show.
Hao Tany threw exactly one inning, but still it was
the biggest event in town. One inning. And joining us,
someone who was there part of the Spanish radio broadcast
for the Dodgers sometimes sits in on our radio broadcast
(00:24):
here on AM five seventy. He is everywhere. He is
our friend, Jose Mota. Jose, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am everywhere about show.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, come on now, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But before we get started, Before we get started, how's
your dad doing?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
My dad is doing quite well. Thank god, he's well
into his recovery rehabilitation. Get a chance to spend time
with him, and as rehabit watching work hard and certainty
now that he's been to the ballfark and seeing a
couple of games, I'm telling you, his spirits are lifted
way higher. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh that's amazing. We're so happy to hear that, and
that and that's crazy right about just sometimes being in
an environment that makes you happy will lift your spirits
and also sometimes give you that rejuvenation that you need
to help with your your rehabilitation as well. Man. So
that's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It is you know, I'm going to share something with
you guys, very personal about this whole process. And I
hope I have time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I won't take long, but take your time, take your time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was talking. I was talking to Tony Gwyn Jr.
Who obviously I played with Tony Gwyn and Junior was
a young kid when I was a Potters in ninety one.
I was talking to Aaron Boone and they were asking
about my dad, right, and I'm like, isn't it interesting
that all three of us could just look at our
superheroes that person that we see is like invincible, untouchable, indestructible,
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and all of a sudden, there's the age is like,
you know, the ballplayer image is not there anymore? Right,
my dad? Hey me, fun goals?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Throw me BP Dad, Take me here, Dad. And it's
like wow, and it's all like, you know, life at you,
hob where you go. You know what in perspective that
our parents gave us, that's been the best help because
now you see yourself as somebody in the entire family
helping them out. By the same time, it's like, wow,
they got to stood there and saw Nola ran in
(02:15):
the Battis box, right, the Tony Gwynn that just bombarded everybody,
and in the you know, Bob Boone that caught so
many you know, palbows to the mask and things like that,
and you know, obviously they're all going through their own thing.
But it's quite interesting. I just want to give you
that perspective because it relates to the fans, it relates
to everybody out there and non fans also, but without
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the fact that we face things like that and when
it hits us, we just trust that they've done the
right thing to make sure that them iso care of us,
we take care of them.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, no, no doubt, no doubt. Man, I certainly can
relate to that. My dad was a coach and I
just was thankful that I got to got a chance
to be in that environment and he brought me along
and gave me access to places that I think the
kids that I knew, friends that I had didn't have
access to. So it benefited me, you know, my whole life.
(03:09):
And still to this day, I still appreciate what he
was able to do for me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's a good thing. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, it is absolutely it is and always Our love
for for your family is always there, man, you know that.
So you have a unique perspective on show. Hey o
Tani because you you're really you covered him, you saw
him on a regular basis down in Anaheim, and now
he's with the Dodgers, and the Dodger fans got the
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first really real glimpse of him being a pitcher and
a hitter. And we've seen it from afar, but to
get it up close and personal for for Dodger fans.
Can you explain, you know what that was like for
for the Angels down there to have this guy be,
you know, at the top of his game on the
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mound and then on the top of his game at
the plate and seeing that happen in real time on
the same day.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh, to me is what a privilege to see this
dominant figure who's become an iconic around the world of
baseball globally, not just locally, but to see him when
he first came and do the first interview with him,
and then through the years, you know, dozens of interviews
with him, but also get to know him personally and
to see the development of showing from the tombody struggled,
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and he was getting his bat knocked out of his
hands a spring training in twenty eighteen, to the doubts
that people had about is this guy for real or not?
He couldn't get anybody out, he couldn't throw strights, and
he just couldn't hit. All of a sudden, there he
is show hill Tony, but just keeping a show on
the angel side. I just see the development. And also
I've seen the dark side of you know, the things
that he has to face with the injuries and the
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surgeries and all those things and many distractions, and his focus,
my people, has always been on his baseball, trying to
be the best player, best version, best athlete, best teammate,
and best citizen. He could be, I mean in two
different continents, right. But to see this as a Dodger,
let me tell you there's no comparison. There's no explanation
(05:15):
I can give to tell you the impact this hat
all around the world. And one thing that I was
sharing with David vest Say the night before was You'll
see a more intense Shohil Tani on the mount He's
a different monster on the mountain. I mean, he is
showing the emotions he is going to show you if
he doesn't like a call. And it's just so different
from the guy that we see when he hits, even
though he is actually more expressive now as a Dodger
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than he was ever as an angel. And the other
thing is, I was, you know, telling the found to
get there early because you're going to watch this guy
come out before anybody else, any of us teammates, because
of the routines he has to go through. And there
was people with their cameras ready to show it comes
out at six twenty seven, six twenty eight, and just
to watch this phenomenon going. Oh, by the way, he's
(06:00):
so pitching. Oh wait, he's batting today too. It is
just amazing. But to do it under the big life
of LA with this organization in Dodger Whites at home
is absolutely remarkable. The results. I know he wanted them
to be there. I talked to show half of the
game yesterday. He was not happy about the novel strikeyout
call and not happy about allowing to run, but quite happened.
(06:21):
Please about what he saw coming out of his arm
because it was pretty much electric.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Ose here's what's funny, because you saw him in Anaheim
and I said this earlier. I saw him pitch in
Anaheim and hitting Anaheim in the same game. I saw
him in a doubleheader with the Tigers. I think he
pitched the first game and won at two home runs
in the second game or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, but the guy's pitched.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Everybody knows he can pitch. He has performed on the
mound well for whatever reason. One ending with the Dodgers.
Trump's anything he's ever done. Pitching for the Angels, didn't it?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
See it seemed though. I mean, I think we all
forgot that he gave up a run, you know what
I mean. It's like, no, no, he was just the
shoal Tony was on and it's like, so what, he
gave up a run, So what we knew? One thing?
How about you as a as a pitcher giving up
a run and k you yourself as a batter, not
not soon after going out there and just taking care
of that run yourself. It's it's crazy. Who would have
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ever thought this was gonna happen to this the mission
Because it's not just the fact that he can do
both things. He can do both things at an elite level.
Choil Tani in case many don't know he was fourth
and saw young in twenty twenty two when he won
fifty to nine, you know, in a year that was
Roland of the winner and he threw one hundred and
sixty sixth innings. So it's not just like, oh, you know,
(07:35):
just give us an outing like a number five starter
and just get through because there's a great story. No,
he is a premier guy that wants to be at
the top of his game at every single level, every
single phase. And to me, it's almost like, how do
you go out there and compare with anybody? You can't
compare with anybody. I mean eleven strikes us for nine
innings in his career and allowing under seven hiss per
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nine innings in his career. How do you find that?
Because he's not a financica guy, he's a power guy
that actually pitches a little lot of finesse.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's really incredible. And you know,
there's Jose. There's a lot of a lot of kids
grow up when you start literally it's you know, guys
play shortstop in their pitcher. You know, you see the
you know, the best guys on the team. They do
multiple things. But they also they really they pitch and
they play a specific position and they hit the ball well.
(08:26):
And that happens and maybe through high school and if
some guys are lucky up, it happens in college a
little bit, but rarely do you see it happen, you know,
at the major league level. I'm thinking, you know, in
my mind as I'm watching o' taani do this, I
had a chance to really watch Hunter Green play here
locally at Notre Dame High School, and he was a
(08:48):
tremendous shortstop and and it really had a tremendous bat
and chose to go the pitching route. And I don't
know if he could certainly, uh, you know the guy
you think about, you know, throwing over one hundred miles
an hour and also having a tremendous bat thing. Oh,
he's the guy could probably do the same thing. But no,
it's a uniqueness that Otani has to be able to
(09:09):
do that and compartmentalize both positions. Arm are we seeing something,
Jose that you think younger and more kids will try
to attempt or try to force on their high school
coach or college coach to try to do both. Or
(09:29):
is this something that you think clubs might be looking
for or is this a trend or is this just
a unicorn that we're seeing with him? And this is
not something that's going to be any kind of trend.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I'm gonna go in two ways here. Just after Otani
came to the big leagues, you started hearing more and
more teams, Oh, we're gonna draft this guy because perhaps
he could become a two way player. Some players that
were failing in one or the other were actually asked
to hit or to become pictures during that time when
(10:02):
it was hot, and like, oh my god, this guy
can do it to this level. But it's not that easy, man.
I mean, and I am one to tell you that
I want young players to challenge themselves mentally and physically
to not be limited to one position. And it's going
to get up to a point where your size, how
you grow, your development, your arm, your your strength and
the hitting and all that stuff. Hand eye coordination's gonna
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where you're going to go. But just take it to
the limit and to the extreme, knowing that to develop
to be a big league player and contribute, you're going
to have to choose one side because you want to
do something good. It's going to keep you in the
big leagues. I'm not saying that nobody else can do it,
but at this level, it's going to be hard to
find again in many, many years, and who knows, decades
or generations somebody who can do it at this level
(10:45):
or so long and be an attraction globally and not
get distracted but show Hey in fact challenged the teams
in Japan when he was in high school throw one
hundred and one miles an hour, and he said, I want
to continue to be a two white player. And he
told me the story he goes and he was actually
readier to come to the US if that hadn't happened
until the team at Hokkaido, which is a comparable team
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to say the way Tampa Bay team thinks, for example, right,
they're like, we're going to promise you if we draft you,
that you're going to be a two way player. And
that was the end of it. Was like, thank you
very much. This is all I know, is what I
want to know. So it took the group of people
support system himself to set some high, lofty goals, but
also took somebody to say I'm going to take a
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chance so if somebody took a chance, and here we
are Jose.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So he went an inning last night, gave up a run,
got the run back. You know, he probably I think
he did twenty five pitches. He probably wants to go
pitch again tonight. If everybody knows him the way they
think they do next outing, how much longer do you
think they let him go? Is it innings, is it pitches?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What do you think it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Kinds are going to be like the first thing, he's
going to take the second on it. But at some
point you're going to go out and know that he's
got to get to forty forty five pitches. And I
always say that Lee the way you see the way,
today's a big day obviously because he had to pitch
a long time. We'll see how it reacts for everything
that he act. You know, had to go through twenty
eight pitches in a big league game against the powder
Is at Doller Stadium. I guarantee I felt like sixty
(12:12):
pitches in the same game. That's how your body responds
to that. So I think that overall you have to
continue to just prolong leiche, give him a longer leash,
know that he's coming back in the second inning, and
beyond that, you know that the season progresses, you're no
rush to get him the seven innings or six innings
because you know that you need him as a pitcher.
And I don't think I'm gonna throw in here is this,
(12:34):
Shohil Tony sometimes has to be protected from Showhill Tony,
And I mean this in the best respectful way. He
needs to be told sometimes just take a day and
just watch the game, which Dave Roberts did quite well
last year when he thought he did, and Show he
obviously accepted it very well. But you got to communicate
that with him and know that he's not twenty five
anymore and thirty things changed and you want to make
(12:55):
sure he's in one piece going into the endless season,
hopefully into October. But I to expect him go a
little bit longer, for no doubt. That's that's what he
wants to do. He wants to be a contributing starting pitcher.
Knowing that, and part of the decision to come back
this early was he knew exactly how depleted the rotation is.
He knew the need for guys out of the bullpen.
So this is not a decision about let's make this
(13:17):
happen because it's a great spectacle. Knows about what the
team needs, as he did with his salary. This makes
sense right now. So why throw those bullets as managers
like to say, in a SIM game, when you're throwing
with command and you're responding, well, use them in a game,
thank you, bullpening games. This happens, But he wants to
be a full contributor on the mound the way that
he was with the Angels.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, and that's that's easier said than done, right because
from all accounts, it was show hay after throwing you know,
those SIM games and then going back and cooling off
and then coming back to DH. It was more him
going to the Dodgers saying, hey, I'm ready to go. Oh,
(14:00):
I'm ready to go in a game because all of
you know, we reported and that everybody did you know
prior to this that he's not coming back into the
after the All Star break, after the All Star break.
That was the timetable, and then it got pushed up
and and it was I guess more than and you
can confirm this or or whatever that it was him
going to the Dodger saying I want to pitch now.
(14:21):
I'm ready to go. So as this goes forward, as
Fred said, you know what do they what's the least
on the next game? Is it forty pitches? Forty five pitches?
And he comes to them and says, I need to
stretch out a little bit more. It's going to take
a lot for the Dodgers to say no push back
on that, because, like you said, they're going to have
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to protect him from himself.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Right. But you know the purpose of the rehab which
actually remembered this. He was actually on schedule or projected
to pitch at May and spring training because of the
shoulder surgery that he had last off season and his
non throwing shoulder. It was like, we have all these guys,
we have more depth. Let's just not push this. But
if he saw on throwing the spring training, it was
(15:07):
not like holding back. He was throwing the ball and
working on pitches and watching everything that came back on
the research and feedback. But because we have had a
little prolonged area now and the buffers a little bit
longer now, it's a matter of no, if we're going
to do this, I'm going to be this who I
need to be for your team to be a better
ball clan, to help out the rotation in the bullpen.
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And his stuff was marvelous and he's been working on
one thing, that movement. He wanted movement. So yesterday we
saw a lot of the two seamed fastball that he
he's thrown before, but we saw that he wanted to
really put that into action with a nice sinker all
in ninety seven ninety eight in the zone, out of
the zone. At times, as we say, he was pulling
some pitches because he was amped up. But moy, the
(15:51):
ball coming out of his hand was so hot and
that's pretty exciting. Obviously, you can project quite well with that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right, old thanks for coming on, great stuff and
really good talking to you. Happy to hear about your.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Dad, Yes, sir, thank you so much. Guys, keep it
up all.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Right, our good buddy, Jose Motive Uh, David Vasse. We'll
have more on o'tany's performance last night and he'll join
the show at two. So we didn't think he was
healthy the first time. Do you think he got healthy?
Let's figure it out.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
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Speaker 3 (16:32):
Talk Fluid Glow and the Stallion. Come on, Rodney, Pete,
fred Rogain on a Tuesday, Come on Freddy.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, Rodney, David Vassil joined the program and he'll
be along right at the top of the two o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Mm hmm. You know that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Tonight Florida. I just want to toss this in real quick.
Florida can win the Stanley Cup. Yes, tonight, Florida, they
can win the Stanley Cup. They can beat Edmonton as
well they should, but you are on your knees praying
that Florida.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Does beat Edmonton because Edmonton, of all of the teams
in any sports league, you hate the most.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, I do. I absolutely hate them, and I think
it would be such sweet, sweet, poetic justice for Florida
to do it again to them and crush the hopes
and dreams of the Oilers. And when you really think
about great legendary and hl franchises, those that will live
in the annals of history, you just don't think the
(17:34):
Florida Panthers. And they've done it. I mean they're really good.
They proved that last year.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah. Yeah, they've won multiple multiple uh NHL Cups, man
and and and yeah, but you don't think of them
as like, what a big time NHL championship organization you
You just don't. It doesn't roll off the tongue like
(18:00):
the Edmonton Oilers or the New York Rangers or the
Chicago Blackhawks, you know, I mean, it just doesn't roll
off the tongue like that. But they've had a tremendous
amount of success and not a long time for it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, look at it like this. Tampa Bay is a
very good hockey club. Florida is a very good hockey club.
Carolina is a very good hockey club. But when you
think of hockey teams, what do you think? Montreal, Toronto, Detroit,
Boston Rangers, stuff like that. The other markets that are
not in the original six are pretty good. And I'll
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tell you something else. And this has got to be
calling to the people in Canada even more so if
the Oilers come up short again. It's hard for Canada
to win a Stanley Cup. It has been, hasn't it.
Oh yeah, it used to be. Tell you what Montreal
is in there? Why even play they.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Got, give them play. The Canadians are gonna win it
again and the Oilers are gonna win it again up
and they had Gretzky and Messier is like nobody has
a chance. Nobody has a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Different now, different U, Sun Belt States, Florida very well.
King's obviously hope to get over the hump next year,
but they've made the playoffs. Dallas Stars, Yeah, Dallas Star's tough.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They are they are. Are they better organization now that
they're in Dallas as opposed to Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Probably probably they're a better team than they were
in Minnesota. Minnesota got another team, the Wild. Yeah, that's
a good hockey market Minneapolis St. Paul Absolutely good hockey
market at Big ten at Big ten hockey is I
don't know if people out here realize how big hockey
is in the in the Big Ten conference. USC is
gonna have to get a team and get a real
(19:53):
good team and put that together.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That would be interesting. You know, teams like USC and
UCLA that hockey not you know, one of their sports,
but the fact that they're in the Big Ten, now,
do you think it becomes one? I think it should.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You don't have got a very good college hockey team.
You're gonna laugh. Arizona State. Really, Arizona State's got a
hell of a hockey team. That's where the Phoenix Coyotes
played in the Arizona State Arena when they got kicked
out of Glendale before they were deported from the state
to Utahe wow, I did not know that. I did
(20:29):
not know Arizona State had a really good hockey program.
Got a hell of a hockey team. H hell of
a hockey team.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So as Florida can wrap things up against Edmonton, okaysee
next outing can wrap things up against the Pacers, that
would conclude the NBA season, and that would mean we
would start looking toward the future. Although if you're a
team not in the finals, you are already looking toward
the future.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Would the Lakers try to make another deal for Mark
Williams of a Hornets? They need a cent. We know
they thought they had a deal in place, which actually
I think would have made a huge difference. But then
for some mysterious reason, they said he didn't pass the physical.
I've never heard why he didn't pass the physical, because
(21:15):
he went back and played. And Kevin correct me if
I'm wrong. He did play. It's not like he went
out there for one game and broke his leg.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Played pretty damn well too, played pretty much, not all,
but the great majority of.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The stretch of the season. Right, Yeah, he did so.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And did anybody ever hear why what the physical problem was,
because I'd never heard that.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Whatever it was, they were concerned about his long term
future and if they were going to trade for him,
it was going to be with the idea that they're
going to sign him to an extension to be the
center that Luca plays next to for the next however
many years. So it wasn't about right now. It was
like a ticking time bomb situation and whatever they found
all right, So how that would have potentially changed now
(21:56):
in the offseason because they're more desperate than still need
a center.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You would think those same concerns, whether you finish the
season healthy or not, would still be there.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, if that's what it was, you know, weren't forecasting
down the road. We just took an MRI a your knee,
and it looks like in a year it's going to
fall off. You'll be fine now, but we can tell
this is not good. Then you wouldn't go out and
trade and be laughing about what are you laughing about?
Would fall off what I'm just saying. And okay, so
(22:28):
now you can't find a center. Let's go with this now.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I will say before we move on for it, that
there was a thought and remember they made this trade
literally at the deadline, so there's a thought that maybe
the Lakers they saw this, they would have been able
to go back if they had more time and revise
the trade and not given up as much. So they
still would have taken them, but they would not have
given up I believe it was connect a first round
pick and a pick swap is what they initially offered.
(22:51):
Maybe they would have offered something else, so they still
would have potentially acquired them, They just wouldn't want to
acquire them for the amount of assets they sent out.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, so that mean when called up, they they dodge
a bullet, they wouldn't have to give up as much,
knowing what they know now.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Correct if they if they could have gone back to
the drawing board and say, hey, this is what we found.
We still want them, but not at that price point.
We want to give you guys less than what we
were gonna give you before. Now Charlotte would have signed
up for that, who knows?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But ye that I think that'll work real well now, listen.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, considering what Charlotte said in their statement afterwards. Yeah,
and the fact that Mark Williams tweeted out a smiling
emoji after the Lakers got eliminated by Minnesota, there's lots
of men there.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, it's it's kind of like, okay, guys, Hey, so
we didn't have enough time to really pull it off
last time, but now we're back, by guns, be bygones.
We're gonna give you a third of what we offered
the first time. You in, you're with us. Now, we're
just gonna give you a third of what we offered.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Who's in?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Send them over right now? How's that that's not gonna work?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Who's gonna do that? Hey?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Listen, guys, Sorry, we know we made you look like fools,
so you know they'll hold us against this. We got
a new plan. We'll take them, but we're not going
to give you as much as we did the first
time when we made you look like fools. Are you
in you want to pull the trigger on that one?
Let's shake shake, when we made you look like fools.
(24:20):
You think that's in the language of the deal. Well,
I think that Charlotte will included, okay, deal points. Let's
see you made us look like fools. Okay, yeah, Well
Kevin's saying that, I think it's a not a great
possibility of that happening. Probably not all right, So that
leads to this, what if it is what it is?
(24:44):
You can't really find the big guy you want? Brook
Lopez being mentioned, Uh, stopgap, you can't find the guy
you want. So basically a little bit here, a little
bit there, but it is what it is. It's status quo.
The same group comes back. If the same exact group
(25:05):
comes back, just you know, tweak it a little bit, Rodney,
you think they're good enough to win the title?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The same group? I actually do, be honest with you,
I think given as a complete off season, and yes,
there was some glaring holes. The rem protector was an issue.
And can can Jackson Hayes progress or is we or
(25:34):
have we seen the best of what he's got? Or
can he get better that? That obviously is a big question.
But everything else, I think they do have the makings
and the the actual talent if used correctly, because I
think they you know, and JJ's first year and then
(25:57):
you know them kind of figuring it out, certain guys
didn't and injuries, you know, playing a big part of that.
Remember they traded for gay Vincent being thinking he was
going to be a very big part of this run.
So I just I think they I think they they
do to make a deep end. I'm gonna say win,
(26:19):
maybe not win a title, like off the top of
my top of my head, but I think they got
a chance to to go deep if they have a
full offseason of all those guys working together.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I do, yeah, I think they can make a run.
I think they'll come up short. I think they do.
Need they got to get a room portray.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
There would be some glaring details when they get deep
into the playoffs if they get to the Western Conference finals.
Obviously you know the rim protection. But again it goes
back to can one or two of these young guys
take to the next level? Can they can't? I don't know.
Can can Dalton Connect figure out a way to be
(26:57):
serviceable on defense or grow.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Five inches and play center? That's another possibility.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's not going to happen. But but maybe you can
grow five inches, fred That is my dreams. I've been
telling you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Listen, I'm giving you my dream, and I've shared it
with others. My goal, my goal is to grow another
foot and back up and be twenty five years old
and play in the NBA. I don't know if I'll
accomplish that. I want to grow up you like you'd
be like Fletch. I want to be like Fletch. I
(27:38):
want to play in the NBA. Is it appropriate to
ask for money back in a certain situation?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We will discuss that next.
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Is it something like that, Roddy fred Roch, Let's go
(28:24):
come on, Freddy?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
All right, come on, Uh, here's a dileuma.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Just answer. You're throwing a.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Wedding, all right, okay, everybody throwing it I'm throwing it. Yeah,
one of us is throwing a wedding. Everybody RSVPs. Right,
what is that for? What gives you a count? What's
the count for how many meals you're ordering? I mean, really,
that's what it is. And it's based on number of
people times the cost of the meal. That's what the
(28:50):
thing costs, plus the venue rental. But let's just talk
about meals. So everybody, uh, one hundred people, one hundred people,
RSVP What do you want?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Chicken or fish?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They tell us what you want? We order a hundred meals. Yeah,
for whatever reason, ten people don't show up, right, and
you can imagine out of town, personal issue, forgot whatever.
Ten people don't show up. That means you say, forgot,
(29:22):
forgot all right, Well, we don't know. I mean maybe
they've been drinking.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
We don't know. Oh, we don't know. I don't know
what they're got, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That means you just bought ten meals, right, yes, okay,
well that costs real money.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So what happened was in this situation, people that did
not show up for the wedding, the bride demanded that
they pay her fifty dollars because each meal.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Was fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So if you rsvped but you didn't show up, now
you have to pay us fifty dollars for not coming,
because that's how much food was. We're going to charge
you because we paid for you and you didn't show up.
What do you think of that.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Were Listen, I've been on both sides of this, And
when I was really young, in college or fresh out
of college, I didn't really understand the whole etiquette world
of events and rsvping and what that meant. And then
(30:34):
I didn't understand the lengths and what all went into
planning a particular event because most of them I showed
up and had a good time and call it a day.
And as time I started to have events on my
own and knew what knew what was involved, and knew,
(30:56):
you know, how difficult it was and how taxing it
was to put on on an event and the cost
of the event, and I had a whole different and
new perspective on that whole world from that side, And
I will tell you the latter is obviously more stressful,
(31:22):
and you do take things personally when somebody does not
show up, especially if it's one thing to not show
up at all. But it's another thing to RSBP and
then not show up, because, especially at a wedding where
things are marked up and you're planning this and you
(31:45):
have a select number of people that you can invite
and it's a very very special day, you just want
the common courtesy of someone saying, hey, listen, I cannot
make it something came up if you just don't show
up after you've rsvped. I don't know if I asked
(32:07):
for the money or anything like that, but I have
a problem with you, and I have a problem if
you're not coming to me. Say how do I make
it up to you or how I can you know,
rectify the situation. I' you know, I don't know what
it costs per plate, but let me chip in for
something or I'll get you a nice gift or whatever
(32:29):
it may be. Yeah, I have a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
No, I get it, And everything you said makes sense,
except you're not going to turn around and tell the guy, Okay,
each plate was one hundred and twenty five bucks, give
me two fifty. You're not gonna do that. You want
to double They want to double, well, two plates. I'm
just saying, let's say it was one hundred and twenty five. Yeah,
give me two, write me a check for two fifty,
call it even.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, you won't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You're not gonna send something out to people and go, Okay,
you didn't show up, transfer this amount of money into
my account. It's awful that they would do it. It's
rude and yeah, sure maybe they should try to do
something to make.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Up for it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But you can't do that. You can't say pay me.
I mean, well, remember it. It might even end our friendship.
But I don't think you can turn around and go
give me a check you didn't show I mean, if
you convinced twenty five people not to show up, then
it's going to be a different conversation. Then I'm going
(33:25):
to try to hold you financially responsible. But I don't
think you can go and say pay me.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
No. No, if it's you know, like you said, if
it's uh, you know, one to three or four couples
that just didn't show up and didn't call you and
didn't let you know they weren't coming, and there was
an empty place setting for two people at a table,
and a lot of times it depends on the wedding,
especially if there's you know there is planned out seating
(33:56):
right for making sure, especially from the bride's PERSPECTI of
making sure the people at this particular table gets along
with the other people at the table, because you don't
want any kind of controversy at your wedding, and you
certainly don't want it at the reception, and you want
to make sure everybody is peaceful and gets along. So
there's a lot of effort that goes into it, and
(34:18):
I am very, very sympathetic to all of what goes
into planning a wedding or a major event. But yeah,
it would be difficult to go back to someone and say, Okay,
you didn't show up, give me two fifty. I would
hope that the people that were on that list, or
(34:40):
people that I even attempted to ask to come to
my wedding would have the courtesy to say, I'm sorry
I didn't show up. Here, here is the check for
whatever that it may have cost you for this plate.
I would hope that the people that had that kind
of integrity that I invited to my wedding would do that.
(35:03):
But not everybody does. Fred.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Unfortunately, all right, when we come back out to Dodger
State and we go David Vase is standing by we'll
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