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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And here we go on a Tuesday, June third, Rodney
Pete and and for Fred Today. He is the host
of two pros at a couple of Joe weekdays three
am to six am, and the Jonas Knocks Show on
Saturday's eleven am to one pm. My Man Jonas Knocks.
Jonas what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good to be in with a gold glover, you know,
it's good to be in with the gold glover himself,
Rodney Pete hang it out here on a Tuesday plenty
to talk about some good a little bit worrisome, but
nonetheless all fun.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Here, all fun, all fun. Yeah, you know, I gotta
I gotta always keep it tight. Jonah. I think that
people get nervous when I get close to the close
to the field if I have my glove with me,
because I might I might come into the field of play.
You know, my wife that Hill thinks that I interfered
with Max Bunsey on that place.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, by the way, I mean, if everybody's getting a
bibblehead nowadays, hey, hey where Rodney saying if we're doing this,
can we please do it the right way?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's that's that's what needs to be celebrated. If we're
doing you know, fifteen different Otani bobbleheads, can Rodney peakins?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Please come on, you got fifteen, you got Otani's dog,
got to babblehead. I mean, come on, we got guys
that have not even played this year getting bobblehead. Yeah,
coming out, man, I need I need my own babblehead. Hey,
before we get going off the top, don't forget on Friday.
On Friday, Fred and I will be at the all
new Sketchers store celebrating its grand opening on June sixth.
(01:26):
It's at p ch and Crenshaw and Torrance. We'll be
there from twelve to two, joined by Clipper star Norman Powell.
And we'll also be giving away ten, yeah, ten pairs
of Dodger tickets to an upcoming game and be one
of the first one thousand customers to score a free
Sketchers tote and hat. So come on out Friday, June
(01:48):
sixth to see us at Sketchers twelve to two giving
away a bunch of Dodgers tickets. Also today on the show,
I think we'll do it in the one o'clock hour,
We're gonna give away two tickets to the Dodgers Mets
game tomorrow night. So just givers Jonas. That's what we do, you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Know what I mean, That's the way you gotta be.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's way you gotta be. I So we celebrate Dodgers
thirty six and twenty four leading the National League West.
They've had some highs and lows, still winning, but Jonas
and take two out of three from the Yankees. They
lose a tough one last night to the Mets. Why
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does it feel like weird about the Dodgers even though
they're in first place? Is it because the expectation going
into the season was so high that everybody expects them
to continue the way they started off eight to zero
and just be dominating people. That's just not the way
it works in sports, though.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, I mean, especially with the injuries, and I don't
know what the hell's in the water or what it
means for the organization and what it means for how
they're getting players like who.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It could just be bad luck.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It could just be a situation where you know, sometimes
your snake bit but now this is multiple years in
a row. But I'm with you, it does feel a
little different, and I don't know if it's because you're
not really sure what to be worked up over, considering
we've got a hundred games left in the regular season,
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like there's one hundred games left before Ultimately the Dodgers
are going to be judged because as long as they
get to the postseason, first of all, nobody's gonna want
to play them, And if they don't win the division
or they're not the team that's you know, got home
field advantage in a particular series, you still don't want
any part of seeing that team.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So it's almost like Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Roberts, I think made the point recently where he said,
we're just trying to hold serve. We're just trying to
hold serve and just trying to basically tread water until
you get to the postseason and there's one hundred plus
more these to go, where you're just like, all.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Right, can we we'll.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Fend off this injury concern, We'll fend off that one,
and we're just looking to get to the postseason and
ultimately have a roster in place and healthy bodies in
place that we can go chase this thing again.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, that's right. I mean, you think they've got fifteen
pitchers on the il and you got to imagine even
if they don't get them all back, which I you know,
it's hard to say they'll have them all back, you know,
as they get ready for the postseason. But if they
get half of them back, say they get ten of
them back. Yeah, you're right. Nobody wants to play them.
(04:30):
And our good finn Ned Coletti always says, yeah, you
may get the Dodgers once, you may get them twice,
but in a seven game series, the team has too
much depth and is too loaded or someone to beat
them when they're healthy. And that is the only thing
is when they're healthy, and you got to believe, like
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you said, there's one hundred games left. There's no sense
in rushing guys back. They're still in first place. They
need to be healthy, healthy and set timber in October,
not necessarily in June. You just wonder though, as guys
come back or other guys gonna get hurt. Yeah, because
that's been a pattern, has been a pattern with the team.
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And if there's something in the water or not.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
By the way, just listen to what you just said.
You're like, hey, there's fifteen guys on the IL. I'd
say only ten come back. You know what I mean
that the fact that this is even a conversation, it's wild.
And then even last night, look, let's be honest, here,
we're what seven eight feet away from Otani hitting a
walk off like that that ball, you know, it looked
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like it was out, like you just assume based on
the previous homer that was out. So you're just not
sure what you should be concerned about and what you
shouldn't because yeah, to Ned's point, you're not getting them
four times in a series, like maybe you could get
them three times early on, like maybe, but even then
feels like a long shot. And that's why you look
at the World Series odds and they're by far and
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away have the shortest odds of any buddy, and there's
nobody really close. So I just I think people are
looking at this, monitoring it, considering what's happening, wondering why
this keeps happening, to the Dodgers, to their pitching staff,
and really just again treading water and saying, okay, okay, fine.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You can get us here. We'll lose this game here.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We've lost two in a row, even though we took
two of three from the Yankees. But once we get
to the postseason, then ultimately you're going to be judged.
And now it's just the one hundred different times they've
got to just try and field a roster and a
lineup that they can get out there healthy enough to
win games, get into the postseason and then make their run.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean you look at last year they
had going into that postseason. They had an abundance of pitchers. Look,
they threw Walker Buehler out there in the ninth inning
last year to win it and close it out when
they still had quality pitchers in the pin. So we'll see.
But are you concerned at all with Tanner Scott right now?
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He's this, he's blown his fifth day. He's there, big
signing in the bullpen, seventy two million dollar guy, and
he is getting knocked around like Dwayne Bobbit back in
the day. I mean, what's that he is getting knocked around?
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I mean, I don't know if it's just a confidence thing,
you know, and it and thank god Jonas because I
know you know you remember this. But the other night
when he got knocked around, he refused to talk to
the media and left and didn't say anything. And last
night he actually did talk to the media. But you
can't do that as a professional athlete. You gotta you
gotta take your lump. But I don't know, do you
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keep trotting him out there or do you just you know,
put you know, put him in a different situation. Maybe
put him in the seventh eighth inning it's instead of
the night that got to close, and let him work
himself back out out into uh whatever funk he's in
right now.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean, listen, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
About that Dwayne bobbing. That's for a certain age.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, well, look, I mean, I mean I'm assuming
you know, is it Juwan John Wayne Bobbin, the guy
who got his stuff thrown?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well look, I mean, hey, if you know you're walking
your dog out in the middle of the night, who
knows what you find in a seven eleven parking. You
know that just it happens from time to time. But
I would say this about Tanner Scott, whatever's happening to
him on the field is nothing compared to the pipe
job that David Vass has given him postgame on Dodger
Top Home.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I was my last week. I was on my way
last week to get my hair.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Cut, and I turn on five seventy, I turn on
the blow torch and I heard David Fast say go
in on Tanner Scott after giving up the lead and
losing that game against the Guardians, and I was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Like, Jesus, Dave.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I don't blame him for not wanting to talk
to the media because he probably caught wind to what
vass Aid did to him. But you know, maybe there
is the thought that is he trying to overcompensate because
that was a big addition of big signing, and you
do wonder about that for the guys that are left,
the guys that are remaining. All of a sudden, you
went into this year and I heard Matt vaskerzhen talk
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about this with Petro's money, and he was like, man,
you went into this year. If you remember the conversations
we were having, Oh, it's a ten deep rotation. They've
got ten deep, like you know, they've got multiples that
could start getting do they do a six man rotation?
And that's before Otani comes back, And now we're talking about, Uh,
you're just hoping you get enough innings out of guys
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and then you turn it over to the bullpen and
then the bullpen's got their issues. And now Tanner Scott
who was brought in, who nearly signed with the Cubs
but deferred money got him to the Dodger, Like, it's
just not gone well. And so you do wonder if
all of a sudden there is aspects of the bullpen
and other guys trying to overcome compensate, and does that
lead to either a struggles like Tanner Scott or b
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injuries that we've seen other players have, which is a
real which I think is a real conversation to have.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, it really is, and it's scary because you know
Otani is coming back, and yes, it would be fantastic
to you know, one of the reasons obviously he got
the seven hundred million dollars, it's because not only does
he hit, but he pitches and he's a phenomenal pitcher
and ace when he's on the hill. But I and
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I asked Ned this as well. It's like, you can't
rush him back, you can't overuse him because there is
that fear that you might lose his bat if he
gets injured while you're trying to get him on the
hill and be effective for you. But your pitching staff
is so depleted you might need him to pitch more
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than you originally thought. Like you said, they go into
the ten deep. You know, Otani's a luxury, and I
think you still have to think that way. It's him
being a luxury. But still there's going to be that
thought process. Especially you know, if he goes out there
in those first two games he lights it up and
he's hitting ninety eight, ninety nine and unhittable for three
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to four innings, that they let him go, there's going
to be a wow factor and a thing that in
Dave Roberts and everybody's minds like, oh wow, oh let's
try him out there again, or we got to save
him for the playoffs and then he's going to go
and be our number one as we go into the playoffs.
But there is It's that luxury you have, but you
don't want to use it if you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, Dave Roberts is in a kind of a tough
spot because you can say, well, he's got the most
talent in baseball, yeah, but he's also had to That's
why we talked about last year it was maybe his
best managerial job, dealing with the injuries, navigating all that
and trying to work this team into form as the
postseason got here. But then there's also the Otani aspect
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which you bring up, which is, now you've got, you know,
one of the best hitters in baseball, a guy who's
a threat every single time, and you're gonna trot him
out there to go pitch. Now, does that takeaway from
his bat which you've needed?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Last night?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He was their bat like he was like he was
the one who kept them in that game. He cut
the lead and half tied the game on the sackfly
that nearly was a home run in the ninth inning.
And so you do wonder, well, if if that you
take away from that, then what do you get. So
it's kind of a precarious spot that Dave Roberts is
in and I would just say this, Otani's unbelievable. I like,
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you know, like one of the I thought I was
thinking about this over the weekend. One of the lame
conversations that people have when it comes to the NBA,
because they're just trying to whatever storyline or top but
they can put out there, they try and put out
there to try and facilitate offseason NBA talk, which is
for the most part, isn't all that interesting? Is well,
who's the face of the NBA. It's like, you know
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who doesn't have that question major League Baseball because it's
either Tawi and you saw it this weekend and last
night he does it again. I mean, he annihilated that
ball in the seventh like he And so you're watching
that and you're going, Man, if you're Dave Roberts, how
much of that do you want to take away from
the bat by rolling him out there to go pitch?
(13:18):
I know, selfishly, we all want to see it, like
I want to see because you're hearing rave reviews. Now,
how do they go about? You know, do they is
just going to run him out there every five days?
Did they start him in the bullpen? That's why I'm
curious to see what they use in such cycle.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, absolutely, I want to see him go seven or
eight no hit innings and give up one or two
hits and get two home runs in the same game.
I mean, I want to see that, you know. But
at the same time, you're right, is it going to
take away from his bat? You know a lot of
people believe that, you know, Mookie playing shortstop this year
is taken away from him at the plate because there's
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more action at shortstop there, it's more cerebral than playing
right field, and some of the focus is taken away
from from him at the plate. I don't know if
that's true or not. He says it's not true. Obviously,
he dealt with the law, the food and the and
the sickness early on and and losing all that weight.
Now he's got the toe, and hopefully he comes back soon.
But I just don't know, because it would be a
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shame to take away from the bat, is he? And
you mentioned Aaron Judge, and and I know, Look, we
live in LA and Otani is just a phenomenon, and
I'm sure in New York it is a lot all Judge, probably,
But with all the Otani talk, are we not given
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Judge enough enough credit? I mean, Judge lead leads in
about six categories offensive categories god in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
And I think he's got close to four hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, he's hitting three ninety one, yeah, three ninety one,
twenty one home runs. He leads in ops, he leads
in OPB, I mean he leads in and hits. He
leads in so many categories. Yet O'tani, you know, because
he looked bad the first two first two played appearances.
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He struck out, looked bad. But he hits the bomb
to cut the lead in half, and then he hits
another one that is, like you said, five seven feet
away from from a game winner, but it ties the
game up in the ninth and and that's what we see.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
One of the points that was being made because on Sunday,
I was after I got back home, I threw the
game on TV, and you know, it's Sunday Night Baseball,
so you're getting the national broadcast. And one of the
points that they were making they were talking about the
first baseman and for the Yankees it's Paul Goldschmidt. For
the Dodgers, it's Freddy Freeman. And their question was, hey,
these guys are both Hall of famers, right, like, oh yeah,
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Like Freddy Freeman's all for Freddy Freeman's been fantastic, Goldschmith's
going to be a Hall of Famer. Those guys are
Hall of famers, and they're like secondary to Otani and Judge,
who are all who are Hall of Fame. Plus it's
almost as if they're so good that they drowned out
great and you don't hear enough about some of the
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other guys. And for Otani specifically, on a team full
of Hall of famers, Mookie Betts is going to be
a Hall of Famer, Kershaw's a Hall of Famer, Freddy
Freeman's a Hall of Famer, and probably one or two
others on a team full of Hall of famers, he's
the best of the bunch. And I think that we
sort of run out of superlatives for how great he
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is and how great he's been, because every time Otani
comes up, you're just kind of watching. There's something about it.
There's this mystery, there's this aura to him. Oh and
by the way, he can also pitch too.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Just the.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Entire Otani experience is crazy, and I often wonder if
we all truly appreciate it in real time while it's happening,
or if it's gonna be one of those things where
after his career is done, we're gonna be looking around going.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That was something like we've never seen before, and he
was here the entire time, But because it was the Angels,
nobody really it didn't get the coverage that it should.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Have been amazing, amazing. He was down the road and
you know, the coverage was, oh, yeah, he's a great player.
He pitches and hits and yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mbtwo down there, two different worlds off the five.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can you remember, because I can think of maybe only
really a handful of guys that you didn't leave your seat,
You got out of the concession line, You waited to
go to the bathroom when they're up or coming up.
And Otani is definitely that guy. Judges that guy, I
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believe as well that you wait to see. Even even
that first home run he hit at Dodger Stadium was
it on Friday, which I thought was a great moment
being on a national broadcast game the Yankees Dodger to
build up to it, Judge comes up first inn he
hits the home run and Anani says, let me answer
that bell. Yeah, and he hits the home run and fantastic.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
First time in history that two m vps hit home
runs in the in the first inning of.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
The same game. Yeah, it was. It was absolutely amazing.
The only other other guy maybe his bond. Yeah, but
you didn't you didn't want to move because you knew
he was coming up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And like so some maguire was was kind of like that,
but but it wasn't this, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was almost like the what did he do? What
did hit that guy do?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They were in the same division, so you got to
see the back and forth where Judge and Otani's rare
they play each other. They got them in the World
Series last year. We got them in this series, you know,
over the weekend. But yeah, there's not a lot of
examples I can think of where you turned on a
game because you had to watch the guy play, like
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you had to see the bat, you had to see
how it was going to go. And I've wondered, did
you play with anybody? Because my whole point on professional athletes,
guys that played the professional level, like you playing professionally,
you're the tip of the spear as far as athletes go.
Like we all threw the football around, we all played
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catch with a baseball, we all played wiffle ball. You
guys were the elite of the leaite. You guys were
the ones that could actually do it good one level
after the next level, after the next level, after the
next level. Did you play with a guy to where
even as the elite, you all looked at each other
and we're like, I mean, this guy's unbelievable, Like like
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we're good, this guy's great. Like there had to been
somebody that you played with. And I wonder how many
guys in the Dodger clubhouse were watching Otani going, I mean,
we know we're good, that's why we're here. But he's
on a level and at a place that we'll never
get to.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah. The Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders was on a
different level too, to the point where you had other
guys on other teams that didn't want to sit down.
I can remember. I remember we played we played Miami,
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and I talked to Dan Marino after the game and
he said, you know, normally I'm sitting down when the
defense is on the field, and just you know, going
over my notes, I found myself standing up watching your
offense play because Barry Sanders and seeing trying to figure
out what he was going to do. It is Dan
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Marino saying this, you know, And but yeah, Barry was
on a different level. Look. I played with the Cowboys
in the early nineties, and there were a bunch of
superstars on that team. But there were a bunch of
them right, you know, Troy and and Emmett and Michael
Irvin and and then the whole defense. Basically they're all
that superstar level. But of those guys, there wasn't one
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guy that you just went, oh, he's on a whole
different level right him. It was great. Michael was great
at what he did. Troy was great, you know, you know,
Charles Haley was was great. But it wasn't like the
Barry Sanders thing where it was, oh my god, oh
my god. This guy is absolutely on a different level
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that you can't take your eyes off of him. I
mean I would. I would literally hand the ball off
and not carry out a fake because I wanted to
watch and see what he did. I would get yelled
at in the film sessions the next day because I
didn't care because the backside guy almost made a tackle
because I didn't carry out my fake to continue. And
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but it was, it was. It was pretty amazing of him.
But you're right about but that Otani is one of
those guys that you look up and go, man, and
he's got And the thing about it, John's he's got
a lot left. Yeah, he's got a lot of years left.
And that's the thing about what you love about Judge too,
is that Judge has been doing this now for a
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few years. Yeah, he's been doing it for a few years.
So to watch these two guys and hopefully the Yankees
can stay good and this this kind of goes back
and forth and they play in multiple World Series because
I think it'll be great, great for baseball.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, it's uh, and I wonder, yeah, I'm not sure
what they could do to try and groove it to
where we could we could see that matchup every year,
if that's even a possible group it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You know, just you know, like, hey, listen, we're gonna
like do some some different rules here as far as
interleague play goes, and maybe we'll try and you know,
facilitate a Judge you know o Tani matchup every single year.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I just.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's it's it was fun to watch over the weekend
and you're thinking, okay, everybody, just you know, we can
calm down, all right, series is over, And then you
get to last night and he does it again and
nearly wins the game for him in the ninth inning,
and and you watch it and go, oh and by
the way, yeah, he's gonna pitch eventually. Like there's also
that so as great as he is, it could only
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get greater. But Dave Roberts is going to be the
one that has to navigate it, and he's gonna have
to do it with all the other injuries in mind,
And just hope you can get to the postseason. Like
just think about what a postseason game would look like
with Otani starting at Dodger Stadium like that. That is
a crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Atmosphere that it would be great to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
All Right, we got the NBA Finals coming up this week,
Indiana versus okayc are you excited about it? You know,
we'll check in and talk about it a little bit. Also,
what what do the Lakers need? You know, is it
another big, big fella to make them a big three?
Or they need more depth, or they need a big
man in the middle. Let's get into that as well.
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Jonas knocks in for Fred Rogan AM five seventy LA Sports.
Oh Yes, welcome back Jonas Knox in for Fred Rogan
today chopping it up. Jonah, Let's go some NBA because
we do have the finals coming up this week. It
certainly feels different than previous years when we're talking about
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the NBA finals, How are you feeling about this now
that we have you know, OKAC and Indiana in the finals,
and two teams that obviously not on the coast, and
two teams that don't have well, you know, they've got
up and coming superstars and SDA and Halliburton, but we're
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not seeing the Steph Curry caliber or Lebron James or
the Joker or Jannis uh in these finals. How are
you feeling? Are you interested in it or are you
not interested in it? Or is it a big deal
that these two teams and the way they play are
in the finals. Does this helped the NBA?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, I think it helps the NBA if you're
trying to gain attention for markets that don't get the
attention they deserve. The one guy has been on Indiana
for a couple of years now, as Tim Legler, Tim
Legler has been talking about Indiana. Hey, man, I think
they should get more attention. If you go back to
Indiana's run last year. Yeah, Boston swept them in the
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Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, but those games were tight, like
it wasn't like it was a complete wipeout. The Celtics
just made one or two more plays. Jalen Brown hit
a miracle three to push it to overtime in Game
one of that series, and that sort of changed that.
It was very similar to what happened when Tyree Halliburton
hit that shot against the Knicks that went into overtime
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in their series. It was almost like roles were reversed
one year to the next for Indiana. So Indiana's always
been dangerous. There's always been talent there with Indiana and
Oklahoma City has been the best team in the NBA
wire to wire, and you sort of overlook the fact that, man,
they won sixty eight games. There's four or five teams
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in the history of the league that have done better
than that. So this is a real team, a really
good team in my mind, the two best teams representing
their conferences in the playoffs, and I think because of that,
we're gonna get a great matchup. But unfortunately, it doesn't
have your big time market feel. It doesn't have the Lakers,
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it doesn't have the Celtics, or it doesn't have the Warriors,
which is a big time, well known team. Lebron's not involved,
and so because of that, I think The ratings are
probably gonna take a dip, as would be expected, but
I think it's got the potential to be a really,
really fun series with great players getting some attention. How
about Alex Caruso, All right, old friend, Alex Caruso might
(26:37):
actually get a ring, you know, shake Gilgess Alexander. You
just wonder how many times are going to bring up
the fact that, you know, he was traded from the
Clippers to make the Paul George trade work.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So yeah, I think it's gonna be a fun game
on the floor.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Are we seeing, you know, with the new guys?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean, I know it was it made a big
deal about aunt Edward's not wanting to be the face
of the league and he just wants to be him.
But is this becoming now a true changing of the
guard with you know, Stephen Lebron getting older, You've got
the two young guys uh in this game, and and
(27:14):
SGA and Halliburton? Are we seeing the new faces of
the NBA going forward? And and then is this the
is this the the formula? Because both these teams go
about nine to ten deep when they play in terms
of depth, and as we know, as we talk about
the Lakers in the minute. But that was the big
(27:37):
flaw of the Lakers, is that they had no depth.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, and and it was also you know, they thought
they had a big man. They didn't have a big man.
They got it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Look, it also goes to show you that had the
Lakers somehow, some way cross paths with Oka, see, it
wouldn't have gone well, you wouldn't like this is Ultimately,
this was gonna be the result for anybody that played Okay,
see outside of Denver, and you go back to that
game five and go, man, if Denver gets that one,
maybe that's a different series. But you see that in
every playoff run, there's a game or two that could
(28:05):
go either direction. It goes to favor of one team
and they ultimately either win a title or you look
back on it and go, that was a key moment
where everything turned around. And yeah, I think depth wise,
the way that they've built it. Sam Presty, who's the
GM in Oklahoma City, the job that he's done, and
I don't and I remember talking to Fred about this
(28:27):
where you can look after the fact and you know,
condemn the Clippers for trading away SGA and the guy's
the MVP of the league, and you know, the best
player in the league, and regardless of how he plays
and he tries to draw fouls and everything that the
criticism that comes.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Along with it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I understood the move that the Clippers made at
the time because they were in a race to try
and prove themselves against the Lakers. The Lakers were also
in the mix potentially for either a Kawhi Leonard or
a Paul George, and an order to get one, you
had to land the other. And so they gave up
(29:04):
went for it. Yeah, a future MVP, and unfortunately, like
most things in this country, COVID got in the way,
then Kawhi's health got in the way, then Paul George's
health gotten away, and it just never amounted to what
everybody thought it was going to be. But it is
interesting to see all these years later. If you would
have told somebody in real time you realize Oklahoma City's
(29:27):
going to win a title before the Clippers do, they
would have said no, no, no, no no, And it's
not to piss off Adam Auslin. But now we're here
and it looks like, if you believe the betting odds,
the thunder are going to win a title, and they're
going to do it with a former Clippers, the MVP
and Alex Caruso, a former Laker.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right, they did it, you know with arguably like one
superstar and the the rest are really good players, really
good players. You know, Homegren may develop into a superstar.
They got some really good players on the around them.
But they got draft picks on that Paul George deal.
(30:04):
You know, it's helped them build through the drafts. You
mentioned Sam Presti there did a fantastic job. But this
is a copycat league. Remember there was a moment where
everybody's looking for the big three. You gotta have big
three to win it, all right, you got big three,
and let's go get that third guy. But when you
got that, you know, as the Phoenix Suns found out,
you have nobody else around them, you know, and so
(30:26):
where do you go from here? And for the Lakers,
you mentioned it, they got to get a big man,
and that was very evident that Jackson Hayes was not
the guy that could fill those shoes. They lost confidence
in him down to stretch. He didn't play in the postseason,
and it was glaring that they didn't have rim protection
(30:46):
I know you can go back and say, well, you know,
they traded away their rim protection in Anthony Davis, but
they also got Lucas so that was that was a
wash on that one. But is that all the Lakers need?
I mean, the name that keeps coming up now is
Jared at from Cleveland, who helped them obviously do well
in East Now they got bounced as well. But as
(31:08):
a formidable center out there, probably the best name center
out there. Does he make the Lakers more of a
contender or the contender if he comes there as is,
without the Lakers having to give up say Austin Reeves
or too much in this trade.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I mean, if you can get him, yeah, that's
definitely a help because he is a rim protector.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's going to play defense.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Calves fans, you know, maybe weren't happy with his effort
to close out their series with Indiana, but the Calves
were a mess at that point.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
They were dealing with injuries and and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You had Max Strus sending a text to everybody, if
you're not ready to play and if you don't believe,
don't show up, and then he goes zero for ten from.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
From the field.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So the Calves had their own issues going on there,
but yeah, Jared Allen would help.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, really, anybody would help.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And is it going to be you need somebody that
JJ Reddick's gonna trust in that spot because he just
wasn't playing guys in the final couple of games in
the playoffs. He just decided, hey man, I'm not playing
like he put in Maxi Kleeber who hadn't practiced, like
he hadn't even been on the floor with the team,
because he trusted him over guys that had played, been
(32:18):
a part of the rotation and had gotten minutes in
the postseason. So all of those like Jared Allen would help.
I just think if you can take anything from what
you're watching with Oklahoma City, as you pointed out, you
got to have depth because we can marvel at Lebron
James conditioning and what he's able to do at his age.
(32:42):
At a certain point in time, he's not going to
be able to do it. And if you've already started
to see it slow down a bit, and injuries have
already started to crep up or creep up, and you've
seen it happen multiple times since he's been with the Lakers,
You've got to have somebody you can depend on, which
is why I think it's imperative that Luca comes back
in great shape. He appears to have got lost some
(33:03):
weight according to the body experts out there that are
watching him. Everybody's got a scale now, everybody can identify
the guy. Okay, yeah, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The guy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
The guy's for like wearing a baggy white T shirt,
sitting on it on a bench somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It's like, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Guess he's ready to go. But that's why I think
people look at it and go. If he's going to
be the guy, he's got to come in in shape.
As JJ Reddick pointed out after the after the series
was over, after the season was over, you're gonna if
you want to deal with an OKAC, you got to
have bodies, and right now, it just doesn't feel like
they have the bodies to match up with them.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
All right, Little NFL news, A particular receiver comes back
after a little boat trip and says, nothing to see here,
nothing to see here. We'll get into that. On the
other side. Jonas Knox in for Fred Rogan and five
seventy LA Sports. Oh yeah, Today's afternoon delight, is Ace
(34:16):
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(34:39):
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Speaker 3 (34:56):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob and Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
All right, let's bring him on. Our favorite, our favorite attorney,
our man, Jacob and Ronnie. Jacob, are you.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Hello, Rodney, Hello Jordan. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
We're good, good, We are good. Hey, Jacob, I don't
just ask you. I know you are a commendous sports fan.
You coach your kids, you're into it, your partners with
the Lakers. Uh NBA Finals coming up? Okay, see Indiana.
You know they're they're not the biggest brands in sports.
(35:35):
But are you are you gonna watch or are you
gonna be out at dinner and don't really care about
the finals.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I'm gonna be out to dinner, but you know I'll
be watching. I'll be watching the score. I mean, it
would have been you know, a bit more exciting if
you would have, you know, had the Knicks in there,
and everyone thought that the NBA was gonna rig this
whole thing so that the Knicks can get in there.
And obviously that happen. But listen, I think, okay, see
(36:04):
versus Indiana, it's going to be very exciting. You know,
two young teams up and coming stars and you know,
you don't have except for you know, Shay, you don't
really have a superstar superstar being in the finals. And
I don't think Oklahoma City, because they're in a small market,
(36:27):
really get the attention you know, they deserve. I think
they want like sixty eight games this year and got
no love. What's you know whatsoever. They weren't even in
the conversation during the playoffs. But I think it's going
to be exciting. You know, as you can tell, I
lost my boys because, as you said, I coached and
(36:48):
this weekend was our own you know, basketball championship games.
So you know, I'm a watch basketball no matter where
it is, I'm gonna watch it. If I'm coaching, I'm
gonna watch it. If it's the NBA Finals, I'm gonna
watch it in the summer.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wait, how do we do? How do we do?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Come on, Jack, You know you could see I don't
have a voice. So I coach. I coached three teams,
one for my two older boys, Sasha and Tyler. Uh
you know, we were down by fourteen. We came back
to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
For my ten year old, I coached my son Dylan
and my nephew Connor, and on that one it was
a little bit more of a cakewalk. We won that championship.
But then it gets interesting because for my twelve year old,
we had to win. It was a double elimination. We
had to win multiple games to get into the championship game.
(37:46):
We get into the championship game, you got to beat
the people coming in from the winner's bracket twice. So
first game, six o'clock Sunday night. These kids are playing
their hearts out. We're down by fourteen going into the
fourth court. We come back, We win, gives us a
chance to play the second game, which is for the
real championship. Again. Going to the fourth quarter at eight
(38:09):
o'clock at night. We're down by sixteen. We come back,
seven seconds left, we hit a you know, we hit
a two. We're up by one. They come down, they
take a couple of shots. Doesn't happen. Somehow the referee
you know, gave they called the timeout. The referee gives
them a timeout with one second left, and unfortunately, with
(38:31):
one second left they got to lay up.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
And we lost.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, And I gotta be honest, Rodney, you and I
have talked about this before. I have had two nights,
a sleepless nights thinking as a coach, what else I
could have done to keep these kids from being so disappointed.
Lots of tiers, lots of tiers for these twelve year olds.
But I told them, you win with grace and you
lose with grace, and you're going to learn from this.
(38:56):
So yeah, it was a great weekend, as you can tell.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I got to ask you, who would you compare yourself
to previous Lakers coaches?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Are you a JJ Reddick? Are you are you?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Were you going to air out in the postgame press
conference or after the season's over, are you going.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
To tell you? I think I'm what I think, I'm
a lot more of a pat Riley type of coach.
All right, I'm very vocal. Often people think I'm about
to have a heart attack on the sideline and they
think I take it too seriously.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So twenty suit on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
You know, I got to tell you. It's just it's
so important to be able to teach this kids. And
what's interesting is on this twelve year old, you know,
this age category. Last season, which was the fall season,
we were in the finals again and we ended up
actually coming back and winning and unfortunately, as you know
youth sports, we won last second. And what ended up
(39:54):
happening is all the parents from the other side started
complaining and saying we cheated, and they did didn't really
allow our kids. Yeah, they didn't really allow our kids
to celebrate. And when this occurred, the point I wanted
to make to all of our kids is, remember, guys,
we won the championship last year. The conduct of the
other parents and the kids was not correct because they
(40:18):
took your you know, your joy away from you. But
we're not going to do that to the other team.
We're going to clap for them, We're going to celebrate
them and we're going to lose with grace and a
lot of the parents on our team were very very thankful,
you know, for that approach, and we got to teach kids.
You know, youth sports these days are so difficult to
deal with to begin with, and you don't want to,
(40:39):
you know, you don't want to give, you know, excuses
for kids when they lose. You want to tell them
that they can lose and win. That's just life. And
you got to start learning to get at a young age.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah you do, Yeah you do. And you know that
that age, I'm with you, though, that age is such
a fun age to uh to coach because they're they're
right on that that verge of getting it and understanding it,
and that competitive spirit is really coming out at that age.
And I'm with you. I felt it. I coached my
boys when they were twelve and in in baseball, and
(41:11):
I felt it probably much worse than they did when
we lost, and it was just just killing me because
you can't you can't physically do anything other than coach,
but you can't play for him. You can't swing the
bat form or shoot the shot form. You just got
to let it happen. But but such a such a
fun age to coach Jacob. Jacob Jacob. Our listeners always
(41:34):
love when you when you give us real life situations,
and you got one for us. Man, I think is
so incredible. You had a recent settlement that you got
forty times the amount of what the insurance company was offering.
Tell us about that one man, because that is incredible.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
You know, I am so proud of this settlement, and
it occurred for an amazing gentleman. It's a confidential settlement
I can really get into, you know the name and
all that. But this gentleman was rear ended and the
damage to the vehicle was not a lot, but he
had ended up hitting his knee. And you know the
(42:14):
other side. Insurance companies always like to say the property
damage is not very high. Your client couldn't have been
this badly injured. He has pre existing injuries. And our
client was a very active individual, and initially they offered
us something below one hundred thousand dollars, so we were
(42:35):
forced to file a lawsuit. And this should be a
great lesson for our listeners, even if they're going through
cases right now. Sometimes some of our clients are in
such a hurry to settle their cases, put a lot
of pressure on us or other attorneys, get my caps done.
Why is it taking so long? But this particular client
and his wife were so amazing they wanted us to
(42:56):
take our time fight this and he ended up being
recommended a total knee replacement based on how he banged
his knee. And the defense is always testing clients to
see if they're just bluffing or if they're really going
to go through with it, and we ended up going
(43:17):
to a mediation where again they were bluffing and they
didn't want to pay him. So he ended up going
through and got his total knee replacement, and we went
back to mediation. And the great thing about it is
juries want to pay people they like. Defense attorneys are
afraid of people that make good witnesses. And we were
(43:40):
lucky enough to have a client that was just an
amazing guy with a family guy, and after multiple mediations,
we were able to settle that same case in the
millions for him and his family. And you know what's great, guys,
is that after all this happened and he has now
(44:01):
been able to get back on his feet. He has
even purchased a business. He's no longer an employee. He
now has his own business, and I think this really
changed his life and is going to change the rest
of his family's life as well. And he's still a
dear friend and we're just very proud of that. Obviously,
(44:23):
every case is not going to settle forty times or
even ten times, but when you have the right client
who's honest and is willing to go through the treatment
and allow the attorney to do their work, they can
get some great results.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
That is that is unbelievable and awesome. Jacob, Congratulations to
you and to you and to your client. Man, that's
that's why you're the best in the business. Brother, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I appreciate you. Guys. Thank you for allowing us to
share this information and hopefully the listeners can learn everything
something new every single week.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
There he is, Jacob and Ronnie Jacob, thanks for joining
us man always always, it's a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
All right, let's get into some NFL. What's happening, Some
ota is happening, some news happening. Our man Vinnie Bontignor
is gonna join us. On the other side. Rodney Pete,
Jonas Knox a M five seventy LA Sports
And here we go on a Tuesday, June third, Rodney
Pete and and for Fred Today. He is the host
of two pros at a couple of Joe weekdays three
am to six am, and the Jonas Knocks Show on
Saturday's eleven am to one pm. My Man Jonas Knocks.
Jonas what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good to be in with a gold glover, you know,
it's good to be in with the gold glover himself,
Rodney Pete hang it out here on a Tuesday plenty
to talk about some good a little bit worrisome, but
nonetheless all fun.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Here, all fun, all fun. Yeah, you know, I gotta
I gotta always keep it tight. Jonah. I think that
people get nervous when I get close to the close
to the field if I have my glove with me,
because I might I might come into the field of play.
You know, my wife that Hill thinks that I interfered
with Max Bunsey on that place.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, by the way, I mean, if everybody's getting a
bibblehead nowadays, hey, hey where Rodney saying if we're doing this,
can we please do it the right way?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's that's that's what needs to be celebrated. If we're
doing you know, fifteen different Otani bobbleheads, can Rodney peakins?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Please come on, you got fifteen, you got Otani's dog,
got to babblehead. I mean, come on, we got guys
that have not even played this year getting bobblehead. Yeah,
coming out, man, I need I need my own babblehead. Hey,
before we get going off the top, don't forget on Friday.
On Friday, Fred and I will be at the all
new Sketchers store celebrating its grand opening on June sixth.
(01:26):
It's at p ch and Crenshaw and Torrance. We'll be
there from twelve to two, joined by Clipper star Norman Powell.
And we'll also be giving away ten, yeah, ten pairs
of Dodger tickets to an upcoming game and be one
of the first one thousand customers to score a free
Sketchers tote and hat. So come on out Friday, June
(01:48):
sixth to see us at Sketchers twelve to two giving
away a bunch of Dodgers tickets. Also today on the show,
I think we'll do it in the one o'clock hour,
We're gonna give away two tickets to the Dodgers Mets
game tomorrow night. So just givers Jonas. That's what we do, you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Know what I mean, That's the way you gotta be.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's way you gotta be. I So we celebrate Dodgers
thirty six and twenty four leading the National League West.
They've had some highs and lows, still winning, but Jonas
and take two out of three from the Yankees. They
lose a tough one last night to the Mets. Why
(02:27):
does it feel like weird about the Dodgers even though
they're in first place? Is it because the expectation going
into the season was so high that everybody expects them
to continue the way they started off eight to zero
and just be dominating people. That's just not the way
it works in sports, though.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, I mean, especially with the injuries, and I don't
know what the hell's in the water or what it
means for the organization and what it means for how
they're getting players like who.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It could just be bad luck.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It could just be a situation where you know, sometimes
your snake bit but now this is multiple years in
a row. But I'm with you, it does feel a
little different, and I don't know if it's because you're
not really sure what to be worked up over, considering
we've got a hundred games left in the regular season,
(03:17):
like there's one hundred games left before Ultimately the Dodgers
are going to be judged because as long as they
get to the postseason, first of all, nobody's gonna want
to play them, And if they don't win the division
or they're not the team that's you know, got home
field advantage in a particular series, you still don't want
any part of seeing that team.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So it's almost like Dave.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Roberts, I think made the point recently where he said,
we're just trying to hold serve. We're just trying to
hold serve and just trying to basically tread water until
you get to the postseason and there's one hundred plus
more these to go, where you're just like, all.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Right, can we we'll.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Fend off this injury concern, We'll fend off that one,
and we're just looking to get to the postseason and
ultimately have a roster in place and healthy bodies in
place that we can go chase this thing again.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, that's right. I mean, you think they've got fifteen
pitchers on the il and you got to imagine even
if they don't get them all back, which I you know,
it's hard to say they'll have them all back, you know,
as they get ready for the postseason. But if they
get half of them back, say they get ten of
them back. Yeah, you're right. Nobody wants to play them.
(04:30):
And our good finn Ned Coletti always says, yeah, you
may get the Dodgers once, you may get them twice,
but in a seven game series, the team has too
much depth and is too loaded or someone to beat
them when they're healthy. And that is the only thing
is when they're healthy, and you got to believe, like
(04:51):
you said, there's one hundred games left. There's no sense
in rushing guys back. They're still in first place. They
need to be healthy, healthy and set timber in October,
not necessarily in June. You just wonder though, as guys
come back or other guys gonna get hurt. Yeah, because
that's been a pattern, has been a pattern with the team.
(05:12):
And if there's something in the water or not.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
By the way, just listen to what you just said.
You're like, hey, there's fifteen guys on the IL. I'd
say only ten come back. You know what I mean
that the fact that this is even a conversation, it's wild.
And then even last night, look, let's be honest, here,
we're what seven eight feet away from Otani hitting a
walk off like that that ball, you know, it looked
(05:35):
like it was out, like you just assume based on
the previous homer that was out. So you're just not
sure what you should be concerned about and what you
shouldn't because yeah, to Ned's point, you're not getting them
four times in a series, like maybe you could get
them three times early on, like maybe, but even then
feels like a long shot. And that's why you look
at the World Series odds and they're by far and
(05:57):
away have the shortest odds of any buddy, and there's
nobody really close. So I just I think people are
looking at this, monitoring it, considering what's happening, wondering why
this keeps happening, to the Dodgers, to their pitching staff,
and really just again treading water and saying, okay, okay, fine.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You can get us here. We'll lose this game here.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
We've lost two in a row, even though we took
two of three from the Yankees. But once we get
to the postseason, then ultimately you're going to be judged.
And now it's just the one hundred different times they've
got to just try and field a roster and a
lineup that they can get out there healthy enough to
win games, get into the postseason and then make their run.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean you look at last year they
had going into that postseason. They had an abundance of pitchers. Look,
they threw Walker Buehler out there in the ninth inning
last year to win it and close it out when
they still had quality pitchers in the pin. So we'll see.
But are you concerned at all with Tanner Scott right now?
(07:05):
He's this, he's blown his fifth day. He's there, big
signing in the bullpen, seventy two million dollar guy, and
he is getting knocked around like Dwayne Bobbit back in
the day. I mean, what's that he is getting knocked around?
(07:28):
I mean, I don't know if it's just a confidence thing,
you know, and it and thank god Jonas because I
know you know you remember this. But the other night
when he got knocked around, he refused to talk to
the media and left and didn't say anything. And last
night he actually did talk to the media. But you
can't do that as a professional athlete. You gotta you
gotta take your lump. But I don't know, do you
(07:51):
keep trotting him out there or do you just you know,
put you know, put him in a different situation. Maybe
put him in the seventh eighth inning it's instead of
the night that got to close, and let him work
himself back out out into uh whatever funk he's in
right now.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean, listen, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
About that Dwayne bobbing. That's for a certain age.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, well, look, I mean, I mean I'm assuming
you know, is it Juwan John Wayne Bobbin, the guy
who got his stuff thrown?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well look, I mean, hey, if you know you're walking
your dog out in the middle of the night, who
knows what you find in a seven eleven parking. You
know that just it happens from time to time. But
I would say this about Tanner Scott, whatever's happening to
him on the field is nothing compared to the pipe
job that David Vass has given him postgame on Dodger
Top Home.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I was my last week. I was on my way
last week to get my hair.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Cut, and I turn on five seventy, I turn on
the blow torch and I heard David Fast say go
in on Tanner Scott after giving up the lead and
losing that game against the Guardians, and I was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Like, Jesus, Dave.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I don't blame him for not wanting to talk
to the media because he probably caught wind to what
vass Aid did to him. But you know, maybe there
is the thought that is he trying to overcompensate because
that was a big addition of big signing, and you
do wonder about that for the guys that are left,
the guys that are remaining. All of a sudden, you
went into this year and I heard Matt vaskerzhen talk
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about this with Petro's money, and he was like, man,
you went into this year. If you remember the conversations
we were having, Oh, it's a ten deep rotation. They've
got ten deep, like you know, they've got multiples that
could start getting do they do a six man rotation?
And that's before Otani comes back, And now we're talking about, Uh,
you're just hoping you get enough innings out of guys
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and then you turn it over to the bullpen and
then the bullpen's got their issues. And now Tanner Scott
who was brought in, who nearly signed with the Cubs
but deferred money got him to the Dodger, Like, it's
just not gone well. And so you do wonder if
all of a sudden there is aspects of the bullpen
and other guys trying to overcome compensate, and does that
lead to either a struggles like Tanner Scott or b
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injuries that we've seen other players have, which is a
real which I think is a real conversation to have.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, it really is, and it's scary because you know
Otani is coming back, and yes, it would be fantastic
to you know, one of the reasons obviously he got
the seven hundred million dollars, it's because not only does
he hit, but he pitches and he's a phenomenal pitcher
and ace when he's on the hill. But I and
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I asked Ned this as well. It's like, you can't
rush him back, you can't overuse him because there is
that fear that you might lose his bat if he
gets injured while you're trying to get him on the
hill and be effective for you. But your pitching staff
is so depleted you might need him to pitch more
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than you originally thought. Like you said, they go into
the ten deep. You know, Otani's a luxury, and I
think you still have to think that way. It's him
being a luxury. But still there's going to be that
thought process. Especially you know, if he goes out there
in those first two games he lights it up and
he's hitting ninety eight, ninety nine and unhittable for three
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to four innings, that they let him go, there's going
to be a wow factor and a thing that in
Dave Roberts and everybody's minds like, oh wow, oh let's
try him out there again, or we got to save
him for the playoffs and then he's going to go
and be our number one as we go into the playoffs.
But there is It's that luxury you have, but you
don't want to use it if you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, Dave Roberts is in a kind of a tough
spot because you can say, well, he's got the most
talent in baseball, yeah, but he's also had to That's
why we talked about last year it was maybe his
best managerial job, dealing with the injuries, navigating all that
and trying to work this team into form as the
postseason got here. But then there's also the Otani aspect
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which you bring up, which is, now you've got, you know,
one of the best hitters in baseball, a guy who's
a threat every single time, and you're gonna trot him
out there to go pitch. Now, does that takeaway from
his bat which you've needed?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Last night?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He was their bat like he was like he was
the one who kept them in that game. He cut
the lead and half tied the game on the sackfly
that nearly was a home run in the ninth inning.
And so you do wonder, well, if if that you
take away from that, then what do you get. So
it's kind of a precarious spot that Dave Roberts is
in and I would just say this, Otani's unbelievable. I like,
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you know, like one of the I thought I was
thinking about this over the weekend. One of the lame
conversations that people have when it comes to the NBA,
because they're just trying to whatever storyline or top but
they can put out there, they try and put out
there to try and facilitate offseason NBA talk, which is
for the most part, isn't all that interesting? Is well,
who's the face of the NBA. It's like, you know
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who doesn't have that question major League Baseball because it's
either Tawi and you saw it this weekend and last
night he does it again. I mean, he annihilated that
ball in the seventh like he And so you're watching
that and you're going, Man, if you're Dave Roberts, how
much of that do you want to take away from
the bat by rolling him out there to go pitch?
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I know, selfishly, we all want to see it, like
I want to see because you're hearing rave reviews. Now,
how do they go about? You know, do they is
just going to run him out there every five days?
Did they start him in the bullpen? That's why I'm
curious to see what they use in such cycle.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, absolutely, I want to see him go seven or
eight no hit innings and give up one or two
hits and get two home runs in the same game.
I mean, I want to see that, you know. But
at the same time, you're right, is it going to
take away from his bat? You know a lot of
people believe that, you know, Mookie playing shortstop this year
is taken away from him at the plate because there's
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more action at shortstop there, it's more cerebral than playing
right field, and some of the focus is taken away
from from him at the plate. I don't know if
that's true or not. He says it's not true. Obviously,
he dealt with the law, the food and the and
the sickness early on and and losing all that weight.
Now he's got the toe, and hopefully he comes back soon.
But I just don't know, because it would be a
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shame to take away from the bat, is he? And
you mentioned Aaron Judge, and and I know, Look, we
live in LA and Otani is just a phenomenon, and
I'm sure in New York it is a lot all Judge, probably,
But with all the Otani talk, are we not given
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Judge enough enough credit? I mean, Judge lead leads in
about six categories offensive categories god in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
And I think he's got close to four hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, he's hitting three ninety one, yeah, three ninety one,
twenty one home runs. He leads in ops, he leads
in OPB, I mean he leads in and hits. He
leads in so many categories. Yet O'tani, you know, because
he looked bad the first two first two played appearances.
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He struck out, looked bad. But he hits the bomb
to cut the lead in half, and then he hits
another one that is, like you said, five seven feet
away from from a game winner, but it ties the
game up in the ninth and and that's what we see.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
One of the points that was being made because on Sunday,
I was after I got back home, I threw the
game on TV, and you know, it's Sunday Night Baseball,
so you're getting the national broadcast. And one of the
points that they were making they were talking about the
first baseman and for the Yankees it's Paul Goldschmidt. For
the Dodgers, it's Freddy Freeman. And their question was, hey,
these guys are both Hall of famers, right, like, oh yeah,
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Like Freddy Freeman's all for Freddy Freeman's been fantastic, Goldschmith's
going to be a Hall of Famer. Those guys are
Hall of famers, and they're like secondary to Otani and Judge,
who are all who are Hall of Fame. Plus it's
almost as if they're so good that they drowned out
great and you don't hear enough about some of the
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other guys. And for Otani specifically, on a team full
of Hall of famers, Mookie Betts is going to be
a Hall of Famer, Kershaw's a Hall of Famer, Freddy
Freeman's a Hall of Famer, and probably one or two
others on a team full of Hall of famers, he's
the best of the bunch. And I think that we
sort of run out of superlatives for how great he
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is and how great he's been, because every time Otani
comes up, you're just kind of watching. There's something about it.
There's this mystery, there's this aura to him. Oh and
by the way, he can also pitch too.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Just the.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Entire Otani experience is crazy, and I often wonder if
we all truly appreciate it in real time while it's happening,
or if it's gonna be one of those things where
after his career is done, we're gonna be looking around going.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That was something like we've never seen before, and he
was here the entire time, But because it was the Angels,
nobody really it didn't get the coverage that it should.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Have been amazing, amazing. He was down the road and
you know, the coverage was, oh, yeah, he's a great player.
He pitches and hits and yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mbtwo down there, two different worlds off the five.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can you remember, because I can think of maybe only
really a handful of guys that you didn't leave your seat,
You got out of the concession line, You waited to
go to the bathroom when they're up or coming up.
And Otani is definitely that guy. Judges that guy, I
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believe as well that you wait to see. Even even
that first home run he hit at Dodger Stadium was
it on Friday, which I thought was a great moment
being on a national broadcast game the Yankees Dodger to
build up to it, Judge comes up first inn he
hits the home run and Anani says, let me answer
that bell. Yeah, and he hits the home run and fantastic.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
First time in history that two m vps hit home
runs in the in the first inning of.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
The same game. Yeah, it was. It was absolutely amazing.
The only other other guy maybe his bond. Yeah, but
you didn't you didn't want to move because you knew
he was coming up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And like so some maguire was was kind of like that,
but but it wasn't this, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was almost like the what did he do? What
did hit that guy do?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
They were in the same division, so you got to
see the back and forth where Judge and Otani's rare
they play each other. They got them in the World
Series last year. We got them in this series, you know,
over the weekend. But yeah, there's not a lot of
examples I can think of where you turned on a
game because you had to watch the guy play, like
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you had to see the bat, you had to see
how it was going to go. And I've wondered, did
you play with anybody? Because my whole point on professional athletes,
guys that played the professional level, like you playing professionally,
you're the tip of the spear as far as athletes go.
Like we all threw the football around, we all played
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catch with a baseball, we all played wiffle ball. You
guys were the elite of the leaite. You guys were
the ones that could actually do it good one level
after the next level, after the next level, after the
next level. Did you play with a guy to where
even as the elite, you all looked at each other
and we're like, I mean, this guy's unbelievable, Like like
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we're good, this guy's great. Like there had to been
somebody that you played with. And I wonder how many
guys in the Dodger clubhouse were watching Otani going, I mean,
we know we're good, that's why we're here. But he's
on a level and at a place that we'll never
get to.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah. The Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders was on a
different level too, to the point where you had other
guys on other teams that didn't want to sit down.
I can remember. I remember we played we played Miami,
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and I talked to Dan Marino after the game and
he said, you know, normally I'm sitting down when the
defense is on the field, and just you know, going
over my notes, I found myself standing up watching your
offense play because Barry Sanders and seeing trying to figure
out what he was going to do. It is Dan
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Marino saying this, you know, And but yeah, Barry was
on a different level. Look. I played with the Cowboys
in the early nineties, and there were a bunch of
superstars on that team. But there were a bunch of
them right, you know, Troy and and Emmett and Michael
Irvin and and then the whole defense. Basically they're all
that superstar level. But of those guys, there wasn't one
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guy that you just went, oh, he's on a whole
different level right him. It was great. Michael was great
at what he did. Troy was great, you know, you know,
Charles Haley was was great. But it wasn't like the
Barry Sanders thing where it was, oh my god, oh
my god. This guy is absolutely on a different level
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that you can't take your eyes off of him. I
mean I would. I would literally hand the ball off
and not carry out a fake because I wanted to
watch and see what he did. I would get yelled
at in the film sessions the next day because I
didn't care because the backside guy almost made a tackle
because I didn't carry out my fake to continue. And
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but it was, it was. It was pretty amazing of him.
But you're right about but that Otani is one of
those guys that you look up and go, man, and
he's got And the thing about it, John's he's got
a lot left. Yeah, he's got a lot of years left.
And that's the thing about what you love about Judge too,
is that Judge has been doing this now for a
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few years. Yeah, he's been doing it for a few years.
So to watch these two guys and hopefully the Yankees
can stay good and this this kind of goes back
and forth and they play in multiple World Series because
I think it'll be great, great for baseball.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, it's uh, and I wonder, yeah, I'm not sure
what they could do to try and groove it to
where we could we could see that matchup every year,
if that's even a possible group it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You know, just you know, like, hey, listen, we're gonna
like do some some different rules here as far as
interleague play goes, and maybe we'll try and you know,
facilitate a Judge you know o Tani matchup every single year.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I just.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's it's it was fun to watch over the weekend
and you're thinking, okay, everybody, just you know, we can
calm down, all right, series is over, And then you
get to last night and he does it again and
nearly wins the game for him in the ninth inning,
and and you watch it and go, oh and by
the way, yeah, he's gonna pitch eventually. Like there's also
that so as great as he is, it could only
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get greater. But Dave Roberts is going to be the
one that has to navigate it, and he's gonna have
to do it with all the other injuries in mind,
And just hope you can get to the postseason. Like
just think about what a postseason game would look like
with Otani starting at Dodger Stadium like that. That is
a crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Atmosphere that it would be great to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
All Right, we got the NBA Finals coming up this week,
Indiana versus okayc are you excited about it? You know,
we'll check in and talk about it a little bit. Also,
what what do the Lakers need? You know, is it
another big, big fella to make them a big three?
Or they need more depth, or they need a big
man in the middle. Let's get into that as well.
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Jonas knocks in for Fred Rogan AM five seventy LA Sports.
Oh Yes, welcome back Jonas Knox in for Fred Rogan
today chopping it up. Jonah, Let's go some NBA because
we do have the finals coming up this week. It
certainly feels different than previous years when we're talking about
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the NBA finals, How are you feeling about this now
that we have you know, OKAC and Indiana in the finals,
and two teams that obviously not on the coast, and
two teams that don't have well, you know, they've got
up and coming superstars and SDA and Halliburton, but we're
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not seeing the Steph Curry caliber or Lebron James or
the Joker or Jannis uh in these finals. How are
you feeling? Are you interested in it or are you
not interested in it? Or is it a big deal
that these two teams and the way they play are
in the finals. Does this helped the NBA?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, I think it helps the NBA if you're
trying to gain attention for markets that don't get the
attention they deserve. The one guy has been on Indiana
for a couple of years now, as Tim Legler, Tim
Legler has been talking about Indiana. Hey, man, I think
they should get more attention. If you go back to
Indiana's run last year. Yeah, Boston swept them in the
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Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, but those games were tight, like
it wasn't like it was a complete wipeout. The Celtics
just made one or two more plays. Jalen Brown hit
a miracle three to push it to overtime in Game
one of that series, and that sort of changed that.
It was very similar to what happened when Tyree Halliburton
hit that shot against the Knicks that went into overtime
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in their series. It was almost like roles were reversed
one year to the next for Indiana. So Indiana's always
been dangerous. There's always been talent there with Indiana and
Oklahoma City has been the best team in the NBA
wire to wire, and you sort of overlook the fact that, man,
they won sixty eight games. There's four or five teams
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in the history of the league that have done better
than that. So this is a real team, a really
good team in my mind, the two best teams representing
their conferences in the playoffs, and I think because of that,
we're gonna get a great matchup. But unfortunately, it doesn't
have your big time market feel. It doesn't have the Lakers,
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it doesn't have the Celtics, or it doesn't have the Warriors,
which is a big time, well known team. Lebron's not involved,
and so because of that, I think The ratings are
probably gonna take a dip, as would be expected, but
I think it's got the potential to be a really,
really fun series with great players getting some attention. How
about Alex Caruso, All right, old friend, Alex Caruso might
(26:37):
actually get a ring, you know, shake Gilgess Alexander. You
just wonder how many times are going to bring up
the fact that, you know, he was traded from the
Clippers to make the Paul George trade work.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So yeah, I think it's gonna be a fun game
on the floor.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Are we seeing, you know, with the new guys?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean, I know it was it made a big
deal about aunt Edward's not wanting to be the face
of the league and he just wants to be him.
But is this becoming now a true changing of the
guard with you know, Stephen Lebron getting older, You've got
the two young guys uh in this game, and and
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SGA and Halliburton? Are we seeing the new faces of
the NBA going forward? And and then is this the
is this the the formula? Because both these teams go
about nine to ten deep when they play in terms
of depth, and as we know, as we talk about
the Lakers in the minute. But that was the big
(27:37):
flaw of the Lakers, is that they had no depth.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, and and it was also you know, they thought
they had a big man. They didn't have a big man.
They got it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Look, it also goes to show you that had the
Lakers somehow, some way cross paths with Oka, see, it
wouldn't have gone well, you wouldn't like this is Ultimately,
this was gonna be the result for anybody that played Okay,
see outside of Denver, and you go back to that
game five and go, man, if Denver gets that one,
maybe that's a different series. But you see that in
every playoff run, there's a game or two that could
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go either direction. It goes to favor of one team
and they ultimately either win a title or you look
back on it and go, that was a key moment
where everything turned around. And yeah, I think depth wise,
the way that they've built it. Sam Presty, who's the
GM in Oklahoma City, the job that he's done, and
I don't and I remember talking to Fred about this
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where you can look after the fact and you know,
condemn the Clippers for trading away SGA and the guy's
the MVP of the league, and you know, the best
player in the league, and regardless of how he plays
and he tries to draw fouls and everything that the
criticism that comes.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Along with it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I understood the move that the Clippers made at
the time because they were in a race to try
and prove themselves against the Lakers. The Lakers were also
in the mix potentially for either a Kawhi Leonard or
a Paul George, and an order to get one, you
had to land the other. And so they gave up
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went for it. Yeah, a future MVP, and unfortunately, like
most things in this country, COVID got in the way,
then Kawhi's health got in the way, then Paul George's
health gotten away, and it just never amounted to what
everybody thought it was going to be. But it is
interesting to see all these years later. If you would
have told somebody in real time you realize Oklahoma City's
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going to win a title before the Clippers do, they
would have said no, no, no, no no, And it's
not to piss off Adam Auslin. But now we're here
and it looks like, if you believe the betting odds,
the thunder are going to win a title, and they're
going to do it with a former Clippers, the MVP
and Alex Caruso, a former Laker.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right, they did it, you know with arguably like one
superstar and the the rest are really good players, really
good players. You know, Homegren may develop into a superstar.
They got some really good players on the around them.
But they got draft picks on that Paul George deal.
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You know, it's helped them build through the drafts. You
mentioned Sam Presti there did a fantastic job. But this
is a copycat league. Remember there was a moment where
everybody's looking for the big three. You gotta have big
three to win it, all right, you got big three,
and let's go get that third guy. But when you
got that, you know, as the Phoenix Suns found out,
you have nobody else around them, you know, and so
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where do you go from here? And for the Lakers,
you mentioned it, they got to get a big man,
and that was very evident that Jackson Hayes was not
the guy that could fill those shoes. They lost confidence
in him down to stretch. He didn't play in the postseason,
and it was glaring that they didn't have rim protection
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I know you can go back and say, well, you know,
they traded away their rim protection in Anthony Davis, but
they also got Lucas so that was that was a
wash on that one. But is that all the Lakers need?
I mean, the name that keeps coming up now is
Jared at from Cleveland, who helped them obviously do well
in East Now they got bounced as well. But as
(31:08):
a formidable center out there, probably the best name center
out there. Does he make the Lakers more of a
contender or the contender if he comes there as is,
without the Lakers having to give up say Austin Reeves
or too much in this trade.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I mean, if you can get him, yeah, that's
definitely a help because he is a rim protector.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's going to play defense.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Calves fans, you know, maybe weren't happy with his effort
to close out their series with Indiana, but the Calves
were a mess at that point.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
They were dealing with injuries and and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You had Max Strus sending a text to everybody, if
you're not ready to play and if you don't believe,
don't show up, and then he goes zero for ten from.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
From the field.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So the Calves had their own issues going on there,
but yeah, Jared Allen would help.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, really, anybody would help.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And is it going to be you need somebody that
JJ Reddick's gonna trust in that spot because he just
wasn't playing guys in the final couple of games in
the playoffs. He just decided, hey man, I'm not playing
like he put in Maxi Kleeber who hadn't practiced, like
he hadn't even been on the floor with the team,
because he trusted him over guys that had played, been
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a part of the rotation and had gotten minutes in
the postseason. So all of those like Jared Allen would help.
I just think if you can take anything from what
you're watching with Oklahoma City, as you pointed out, you
got to have depth because we can marvel at Lebron
James conditioning and what he's able to do at his age.
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At a certain point in time, he's not going to
be able to do it. And if you've already started
to see it slow down a bit, and injuries have
already started to crep up or creep up, and you've
seen it happen multiple times since he's been with the Lakers,
You've got to have somebody you can depend on, which
is why I think it's imperative that Luca comes back
in great shape. He appears to have got lost some
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weight according to the body experts out there that are
watching him. Everybody's got a scale now, everybody can identify
the guy. Okay, yeah, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The guy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
The guy's for like wearing a baggy white T shirt,
sitting on it on a bench somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It's like, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Guess he's ready to go. But that's why I think
people look at it and go. If he's going to
be the guy, he's got to come in in shape.
As JJ Reddick pointed out after the after the series
was over, after the season was over, you're gonna if
you want to deal with an OKAC, you got to
have bodies, and right now, it just doesn't feel like
they have the bodies to match up with them.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
All right, Little NFL news, A particular receiver comes back
after a little boat trip and says, nothing to see here,
nothing to see here. We'll get into that. On the
other side. Jonas Knox in for Fred Rogan and five
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Speaker 3 (34:56):
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All right, let's bring him on. Our favorite, our favorite attorney,
our man, Jacob and Ronnie. Jacob, are you.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Hello, Rodney, Hello Jordan. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
We're good, good, We are good. Hey, Jacob, I don't
just ask you. I know you are a commendous sports fan.
You coach your kids, you're into it, your partners with
the Lakers. Uh NBA Finals coming up? Okay, see Indiana.
You know they're they're not the biggest brands in sports.
(35:35):
But are you are you gonna watch or are you
gonna be out at dinner and don't really care about
the finals.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I'm gonna be out to dinner, but you know I'll
be watching. I'll be watching the score. I mean, it
would have been you know, a bit more exciting if
you would have, you know, had the Knicks in there,
and everyone thought that the NBA was gonna rig this
whole thing so that the Knicks can get in there.
And obviously that happen. But listen, I think, okay, see
(36:04):
versus Indiana, it's going to be very exciting. You know,
two young teams up and coming stars and you know,
you don't have except for you know, Shay, you don't
really have a superstar superstar being in the finals. And
I don't think Oklahoma City, because they're in a small market,
(36:27):
really get the attention you know, they deserve. I think
they want like sixty eight games this year and got
no love. What's you know whatsoever. They weren't even in
the conversation during the playoffs. But I think it's going
to be exciting. You know, as you can tell, I
lost my boys because, as you said, I coached and
(36:48):
this weekend was our own you know, basketball championship games.
So you know, I'm a watch basketball no matter where
it is, I'm gonna watch it. If I'm coaching, I'm
gonna watch it. If it's the NBA Finals, I'm gonna
watch it in the summer.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wait, how do we do? How do we do?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Come on, Jack, You know you could see I don't
have a voice. So I coach. I coached three teams,
one for my two older boys, Sasha and Tyler. Uh
you know, we were down by fourteen. We came back
to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
For my ten year old, I coached my son Dylan
and my nephew Connor, and on that one it was
a little bit more of a cakewalk. We won that championship.
But then it gets interesting because for my twelve year old,
we had to win. It was a double elimination. We
had to win multiple games to get into the championship game.
(37:46):
We get into the championship game, you got to beat
the people coming in from the winner's bracket twice. So
first game, six o'clock Sunday night. These kids are playing
their hearts out. We're down by fourteen going into the
fourth court. We come back, We win, gives us a
chance to play the second game, which is for the
real championship. Again. Going to the fourth quarter at eight
(38:09):
o'clock at night. We're down by sixteen. We come back,
seven seconds left, we hit a you know, we hit
a two. We're up by one. They come down, they
take a couple of shots. Doesn't happen. Somehow the referee
you know, gave they called the timeout. The referee gives
them a timeout with one second left, and unfortunately, with
(38:31):
one second left they got to lay up.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
And we lost.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, And I gotta be honest, Rodney, you and I
have talked about this before. I have had two nights,
a sleepless nights thinking as a coach, what else I
could have done to keep these kids from being so disappointed.
Lots of tiers, lots of tiers for these twelve year olds.
But I told them, you win with grace and you
lose with grace, and you're going to learn from this.
(38:56):
So yeah, it was a great weekend, as you can tell.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I got to ask you, who would you compare yourself
to previous Lakers coaches?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Are you a JJ Reddick? Are you are you?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Were you going to air out in the postgame press
conference or after the season's over, are you going.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
To tell you? I think I'm what I think, I'm
a lot more of a pat Riley type of coach.
All right, I'm very vocal. Often people think I'm about
to have a heart attack on the sideline and they
think I take it too seriously.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So twenty suit on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
You know, I got to tell you. It's just it's
so important to be able to teach this kids. And
what's interesting is on this twelve year old, you know,
this age category. Last season, which was the fall season,
we were in the finals again and we ended up
actually coming back and winning and unfortunately, as you know
youth sports, we won last second. And what ended up
(39:54):
happening is all the parents from the other side started
complaining and saying we cheated, and they did didn't really
allow our kids. Yeah, they didn't really allow our kids
to celebrate. And when this occurred, the point I wanted
to make to all of our kids is, remember, guys,
we won the championship last year. The conduct of the
other parents and the kids was not correct because they
(40:18):
took your you know, your joy away from you. But
we're not going to do that to the other team.
We're going to clap for them, We're going to celebrate
them and we're going to lose with grace and a
lot of the parents on our team were very very thankful,
you know, for that approach, and we got to teach kids.
You know, youth sports these days are so difficult to
deal with to begin with, and you don't want to,
(40:39):
you know, you don't want to give, you know, excuses
for kids when they lose. You want to tell them
that they can lose and win. That's just life. And
you got to start learning to get at a young age.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah you do, Yeah you do. And you know that
that age, I'm with you, though, that age is such
a fun age to uh to coach because they're they're
right on that that verge of getting it and understanding it,
and that competitive spirit is really coming out at that age.
And I'm with you. I felt it. I coached my
boys when they were twelve and in in baseball, and
(41:11):
I felt it probably much worse than they did when
we lost, and it was just just killing me because
you can't you can't physically do anything other than coach,
but you can't play for him. You can't swing the
bat form or shoot the shot form. You just got
to let it happen. But but such a such a
fun age to coach Jacob. Jacob Jacob. Our listeners always
(41:34):
love when you when you give us real life situations,
and you got one for us. Man, I think is
so incredible. You had a recent settlement that you got
forty times the amount of what the insurance company was offering.
Tell us about that one man, because that is incredible.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
You know, I am so proud of this settlement, and
it occurred for an amazing gentleman. It's a confidential settlement
I can really get into, you know the name and
all that. But this gentleman was rear ended and the
damage to the vehicle was not a lot, but he
had ended up hitting his knee. And you know the
(42:14):
other side. Insurance companies always like to say the property
damage is not very high. Your client couldn't have been
this badly injured. He has pre existing injuries. And our
client was a very active individual, and initially they offered
us something below one hundred thousand dollars, so we were
(42:35):
forced to file a lawsuit. And this should be a
great lesson for our listeners, even if they're going through
cases right now. Sometimes some of our clients are in
such a hurry to settle their cases, put a lot
of pressure on us or other attorneys, get my caps done.
Why is it taking so long? But this particular client
and his wife were so amazing they wanted us to
(42:56):
take our time fight this and he ended up being
recommended a total knee replacement based on how he banged
his knee. And the defense is always testing clients to
see if they're just bluffing or if they're really going
to go through with it, and we ended up going
(43:17):
to a mediation where again they were bluffing and they
didn't want to pay him. So he ended up going
through and got his total knee replacement, and we went
back to mediation. And the great thing about it is
juries want to pay people they like. Defense attorneys are
afraid of people that make good witnesses. And we were
(43:40):
lucky enough to have a client that was just an
amazing guy with a family guy, and after multiple mediations,
we were able to settle that same case in the
millions for him and his family. And you know what's great, guys,
is that after all this happened and he has now
(44:01):
been able to get back on his feet. He has
even purchased a business. He's no longer an employee. He
now has his own business, and I think this really
changed his life and is going to change the rest
of his family's life as well. And he's still a
dear friend and we're just very proud of that. Obviously,
(44:23):
every case is not going to settle forty times or
even ten times, but when you have the right client
who's honest and is willing to go through the treatment
and allow the attorney to do their work, they can
get some great results.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
That is that is unbelievable and awesome. Jacob, Congratulations to
you and to you and to your client. Man, that's
that's why you're the best in the business. Brother, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I appreciate you. Guys. Thank you for allowing us to
share this information and hopefully the listeners can learn everything
something new every single week.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
There he is, Jacob and Ronnie Jacob, thanks for joining
us man always always, it's a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
All right, let's get into some NFL. What's happening, Some
ota is happening, some news happening. Our man Vinnie Bontignor
is gonna join us. On the other side. Rodney Pete,
Jonas Knox a M five seventy LA Sports
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