June 3, 2025 • 30 mins
David Vassegh joins us ahead of the Dodgers-Mets game tonight with Clayton Kershaw searching for his first win of the season. Was there a bigfoot sighting in Colorado? With Thibs being fired by the Knicks after getting them to the Conference Finals for the first time in 25 years, why would anyone want to be a head coach in the NBA?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, we weld keep it moving on a Tuesday afternoon.
Thanks for hanging out with us, Rodney Pete, Jonas Knox,
and for Fred Rogan. And let's do it right now.
Jon Let's get out to the stadium and talk to
our man, David Basse. Hell, yeah, yes, my barbecue brother,
David Basse. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm doing great, Rodney, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Absolutely, man, Absolutely, let's get into it, Dave. Last night,
Tanner Scott another another blown, blown save and struggling balls
are jumping off the bat in his last few outings.
Is is it just a matter of location, Dave with
him as he said before, or is there something else
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going on?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, at this point, it's got to be confidence.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It doesn't seem like he's saw in pitches with a
lot of conviction. He isn't walking as many hitters as
he did last year. But what Tanner Scott is not
a guy like Edwin Diaz right or Emmanuel Classe where
they just burst on to the scene and were dominant closers.
It's been a slow build to get to where he
was starting two years ago with the Marlins. So it's
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not like this guy is automatic. But he has been
one of the best for the last year and a
half and we haven't seen the guy that we saw
last year. And that's concerning pitching for the Dodgers. I
know everybody loves to talk about New York, and yeah,
New York's a pressure cooker with the fans, but Dodger
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Stadium players have told me this over the course of
the last eight years. Dodger Stadium people know that, the
players know there's a lot of expectations and the fans
are going to be on you, and sometimes it's not
made for everybody. I'm not saying that's the case with
Tanner Scott, but you have to wonder if his confidence
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is as big of an issue as his pitching mechanics.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Dave, have you heard because I was reading Jeff Pass
and had an article about potential fit it's if there's
a trade to be made at the deadline for teams
around Major League Baseball, and one of the names that
he pointed out or brought up that could potentially be
a possibility would be Walker Bueller back to the Dodgers
at the deadline if the Red Sox fall apart. Have
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you heard anything along those lines as well too?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well? J just pass them. Must be a podcasting Dodger talk,
because I brought that up last Wednesday. There you go,
thanks for listening, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And you know what, David, I was actually gonna be
Fred because I was listening to you postgame after Tanner
Scott blew that game against the Guardians, and I was
wondering how your interactions have been with him since that time,
because you went in on Tanner Scott then, and that
was before what happened last night.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, when they got back from the road trip, I
was there in the clubhouse. You had to be seen
and take the heat, and we talked it out. He
understood that my intentions are never to demean anybody, but
obviously the fans are seeing what you guys have seen
and it's hard to justify, you know, a guy that
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the Dodgers signed to a big contract not performing. But
last night, you got to give Tanner Scott a lot
of credit. He was at his locker and last Wednesday
in Cleveland, he was there. He was there in his chair,
but the media didn't go to him. They made the
poor judgment of going to talk to Alex Vesia. But yeah,
that's the difference between guys like me and no offense Jonas,
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guys like you that just stay in the studio and
just rip guys and never see them. I mean, that's
that's the difference. You and Ben Mallard never show up
with Aaron Rodgers. You never go to a Jets practice.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Listen, Dave, Ben and I are kind of like when
they're doing the home run derby. There's a net in
front of us when we pitch. You've got no net.
You're willing to take. You're willing to take a shot
straight to the chest.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm not. I'm not like trying to put you down.
But that's the difference between the job that I do
and most everybody else. Now in sports media, you don't
see guys show up after they they criticize a player.
You know, that's why everybody just has these hot takes
because they never have to see these people. I have
to see them every day.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I can't tell you how many how many guys in
Philadelphia were afraid to come in, afraid to come into
the locker room. But that's all he wanted to do
is rip guys from afar and then would never show
up on during the week, on media days or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Rodney. Do you remember the Rams quarterback back in the day,
James Harrison. Yeah, yeah, I heard that a former l
l A columnist, Duck recording with The Herald Examiner just
rip the you know what out of James Harrison. And
when he showed up at the next Rams practice, James
Harrison chased him around the entire practice. Would you like
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to see Aaron Rodgers Mallard down?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That would be a site that we wouldn't never get
that image out of our heads. Dave, what can you
tell about some of the guys coming back? Understand Kirby,
Yates and Kopeck might have some action here in the
next few days.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, Copek is here. He made his ninth rehab appearance
two days ago, so it makes sense that he wasn't
available yesterday. But Coopec's coming back, and you keep your
fingers crossed that he can stay healthy. Obviously, he was
pitching through arm pain last year in the postseason. But
another guy you got to give a lot of credit
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to that he never tapped out. He kept going despite
his arm hanging by a string, and he felt the
residual effects of that in spring training. That's why he
hasn't thrown one pitch yet this season. But Kirby Yates's
injury is not an arm injury. It's a right hamstring injury,
as you know, and I would expect him to be
back when the Dodgers hit the road this weekend. In
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Saint Louis, he threw a bullpen session yesterday. I believe
he's going to throw another one tomorrow, so things are
looking good. And really, guys, when the Dodgers return home
after this road trip from Saint Louis and San Diego,
their bullpen is going to look a lot better because
Kopek will be back, Kirby Yates will be back, and
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the Dodgers are working on Alexis Diaz, the former All
Star with the Reds, and I talked to his brother, Edwin,
and he said that he is over the moon, overjoyed
that the Dodgers traded for him because he believes that
they can help him get back to where he was
and maybe even better. So by the time we're talking
the next time in Los Angeles, the Dodger bullpen's going
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to look a lot better, hopefully day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know, Dave, we know you got a run, But quickly,
Tyler Glass, now what can you tell us.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Not much, Jonas he's not bitching. It's a great mystery.
What is really ailing glass now? But it's unfortunate that
he shut down pitching off the mound and he's throwing
off flat ground. I can tell you Blake Snell is
going to throw a bullpen session next Tuesday in San Diego.
So he's pushing to come back. He's working hard to
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get back. He wants, he wants to be there.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I always wonder when guys, is my body hurts,
my full body hurts, and it's nothing specific. It always
concerns me. Dave, Hey, Dave, who do you got on
the pregame tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I got thirty year Major League gumpire Brian Gorman on
the show. He's the Mike Pereira for Major League Baseball
on their Apple broadcast and he's out here on Los
Angeles a lot. So he's going to join us and
talk about just the dynamics of the strike zone these days,
and also the two challenges that were and umpiring calls
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that were made last weekend in New York. So Brian
Gorman is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Very cool, very cool. Well, always a pleasure, Dave, Thanks
for joining us. I know you're running out there at
the ballpark doing your thing, man, so we really really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Thanks Dave, Hey, all good guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There he goes our man David Bathsey, always doing his thing.
Oh wait a minute, Jonas, we still have one more
pair of tickets to give away for tomorrow Knights game,
so we do it. Now, give me a number, Jonas,
(08:22):
give me a number.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Let's go, number four, number four, four, number four, call
it in A sixty six ninety seven two five seventy
is the number two pair two tickets?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Scuse not two pair two tickets to tomorrow Knights game
against the Mets. Let's go. And are you big on sightings? Jonahs?
I want to know if you're big on mysterious sightings?
Are you? Are you that kind of guy? Yeah? Yeah,
we got to get into that. A and five seventy
la sports Roddy p. Jonas knots on a Tuesday. And
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congratulations to Joseph and long beat. Joseph and long beach man,
you are going to the Dodger game tomorrow night. Congratulations. Uh,
you're doing it man, absolutely, Jonas. At you a big
guy and like believing in sightings UFOs things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh man, most conspiracy I don't want to say most,
they're like conspiracy theories. There's some that are just preposterous,
but I entertain all of them. I think it's fascinating.
I love to read about them. I love to hear
somebody like, even though I don't agree with it, Like
tell me why you believe the Earth is flat? I
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just want to know why. And sometimes people will make
compelling arguments.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, you could sit there and listen to Kyrie for
like an hour, tell you why he thinks the Earth
is flat.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, it's like like really like, oh yeah, look it
up on you and you know, you go to YouTube
and there's all these, you know, different videos like you know,
the moon landing, you know, being fake. I mean, hey, listen,
there's some stuff out there that's kind of curious about
all that. So there there are there are elements of
conspirac And when I was in elementary school, I found
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the section I remember at Glenwood Elementary School, I found
this section that was all about UFO's bigfoot Lockness Monster,
the Abominable Snowman, and I just started renting because they
were like, you need to pick a book to read.
We had already blown through all the other books, and
all the other books sucked. So I was like, all right,
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well let me look at this. And so I read
about all that stuff as a kid, so I've always
been fascinating.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, apparently there's a new viral video that's going around
right now of a sighting of Bigfoot in Colorado near
the Upper Colorado River that was captured by some hikers
and they claimed that it is bookfoot Bigfoot. Now there
are signs of it. Looks like a hairy creature that
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is in the pines and kind of peeks his head
out and looks around the corner and eating something and
and then goes about his business.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I mean, how did they know they weren't filming a
Jacklinks commercial?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Like like they could have been filming a beef beef
jerky commercial. And you know, the guy was there trying
to h trying to show off, and you know, get
get some get some reps in and and some different
looks for the camera crew this video. Because here's the
other issue. AI has changed everything. Oh yeah, you don't
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know what to believe? Yeah, like we're getting we're getting
catfished with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Now, well yeah, like yeah, like twenty years ago you
could say, okay, you can't manipulate it or anything like that,
you know, but technology has grown so much that you
don't know what is real. Have you seen you've seen
these you know, these interviews of guys after the games
where they manipulate, like Shani all Right to have him
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doing the interview after they beat the Yankees. Yeah, have
you seen the one of Have you.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Seen the one where Jok talked about winning the MVP
and he said he lets his horses play with his trophies.
He los his horses And if you just heard the clip,
if you're just listening on the radio, you go, oh
my god, he really lets his horses play with this trophy.
But then you actually watch the video of it, and
you can see the mouth doesn't quite line up, you know,
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with with what they're with what they're trying to say. So, yeah,
AI has completely changed everything. Like the good old days
it used to be where lockness, you know, the Locknest monster.
Everyone thought the Locknest Monster might have been a real thing.
And you know the one big picture that was out
there with Rainy, Yeah, the picture of the of the
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you know, the the lock ness coming out of the
water that in Scotland, and then you know, you come
to find out it was some alcoholic in scuba gear.
He put a sock on his hand and he raised
it up out of the water and they took a picture.
Bigfoot just feels, like I've said this before, of all
the ones that I'm willing to entertain, this one, just
this one feels ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, it feels feels ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like I wonder if the initial Bigfoot was some people
out camping one night and you know, somebody's drunk uncle
got after it a little bit too hard, started blowing
through the wild turkey and next thing you know, he
tars and feathers himself and runs around the woods and everyone's, oh,
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it's a big, giant, hairy creature. And the guy just
happened to be like six three six four, and they
just ran with that story. Like I wonder if that's
where this all started. This video of this bigfoot running
around in the woods seem seems kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Does seem ridiculous. And my question is how old is Bigfoot? Right?
Is it the same Bigfoot or Bigfoot had kids because
we've been hearing by Bigfoot, I think, or I think
people have been hearing about Bigfoot for over one hundred
years now. Yeah, and so I'm under it if it's
are these the offspring of Bigfoot that people are seeing?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, you remember Harry and the Henderson's, Oh yeah, like
like I think Harry and the Henderson's, uh, you know,
he had offspring, Like they were like a little Bigfoot
that we're running around, which is interesting because you know,
you've got a little Bigfoot, then you've got you know,
the monster truck Bigfoot. Like it just feels like this,
this whole thing's kind of taken on a life of
its own. But apparently we're dusting off bigfooting it. The
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one that is fascinating that there's got to be something
too is UFOs that they're now with the UAPs and
the stuff underwater.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now that I tend, I tend to have a little
belief that there there are some UFOs out there now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like you've got naval like people that work in the
navy pilots that are swearing under oath. Listen, I've got
the video of it. You can and you see the
video off the coast of San Diego, and it was
this guy, David Fraver, who's a pilot. And you see
these UFOs darting in and out of the water, right
like in and out of the water. And now there's
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some speculation that there's you know, a base underwater where
some of these so they're calling them UAPs where they're
unidentified aerial phenomena like that stuff. And we've seen enough
videos that have come out, you know, that whole the
whole drone thing that was going on in New Jersey,
whatever the hell that was. I don't know if you've
seen a UFO. I'd love to see UFO. And I'm
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letting this be known right now. If they want to
bring me on the ship, show me around, you're okay
with that. I'll keep it a secret, like don't touch me, right,
I don't want it to turn into fire in the
sky where I'm having assaulted.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Donut dug me. But yeah, yeah, show me around, tell
me about your secrets, tell me about your place, you know,
your planet. But it is that went to me like
the bigfoot locked nest, abominal snowman whatever. But yeah, to
suggest that the where we are with technology and then
how big and vast spaces that we're the only ones
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that Yeah, it's just we're the only ones. No one
else is visited here. Like, let's let's do an autopsy
on area fifty one. Let's let it, let everybody in,
Let's let the cameras in, let's see what we really
got there, you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, you know they're they're talking about you've got
these experts that are saying, well, they've discovered crafts that
move in a way that nothing we have moves like
like there's nothing, you know, we can't even replicate it.
And so that's why they're so hush hush about it.
And then you've got all these other theories that have
come in about you know, does this You know, there's
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scripture in the Bible potentially that alludes to this. There's
pictures that are drawn, you know, in certain like on
the pyramids and whatnot. What do they have to do?
So there's all these different but the but the issue
is you get a couple of weirdos and a couple
of junkies who are doing whatever they're doing and with
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their space time, and they start reporting, oh I saw
uf phone. It's what you sure you did, Yeah, just right.
And then you it's like these AI videos of Bigfoot.
Then you start to go down this hole and you're like, okay, dude,
like you, you're muddying the waters for the rest of
us who are coming at this from an honest standpoint,
because you want to be a weirdo and try and
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light everybody and make believe that you're actually seeing some
of this stuff in real time.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah so, but but but you're right about the where
we are now because of AI and because of technology,
because of all the drones. It it's becoming increasingly difficult
to believe certain things because of what we can do
and the capabilities that we have. Like who's to say
they can't build a drone that can dip in and
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out of water now or hover, you know, as high
as a plane as it starts to take off or
doesn't doesn't get to the altitude you know, at at
a certain certain pace. A drone can can mimic that
or can get to the same height as a plane
and you can see it out the window going, oh
my god, that's a that's a UFO when it's actually
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could be a drone.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Like if they get crazy, you get in a Tesla
that doesn't look like anything that we grew up driving.
It doesn't look like anything anybody grew up driving. You
get in a test. I remember the first time I
ever heard a tesla. I was like putting something into
my truck, or I was like loading something in the back,
and I heard this noise behind me, Like what the
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hell is that? I thought it sounded like something a
UFO would sound like, and it was somebody backing out
in their Tesla, because it makes that weird noise that
when it backs out. Wait, wait what? And the first
time I ever gotten one was I got an uber
and the guy got on the freeway and merged into
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traffic so fast that I couldn't even believe it. And
it wasn't even like he had the newest model Tesla.
It just goes to show you there's technology that's out
there that we don't even have yet that who knows,
maybe the you know, the UFOs, whatever you want to
there's stuff out there that we have that's unbelievable. Imagine
the stuff that they don't want us to know about
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yet because they're in some sort of a race with
other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Said what they got in the campuses of Google and
Apple and all those places, or or even you know,
bigger places like that. Fred and I were talking about these, uh,
these driverless cars. Now you know that's got all the
sensors that are out there. He was talking about. His
son got in one of those cars and drove it
and it got a signal or it got a transmission
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in the car just stopped in the middle of the
road and wouldn't move anymore, and they had to get
out in the middle of the road.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So Fred Fred's son calls Fred to come change change
the transmission in the middle of the road.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I don't know if I'm ready to get in a
driverless car just yet, don'ts They're all over in Arizona though,
by the way, all over Phoenix, and and you know,
you see them everywhere, and it's it's you know, I
think a lot of them are obviously solar powered, but
they're all over and it's just incredible. But again, I
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just can't wrap my head around the instincts that you
have to have if you're driving a car, and just
the awareness that you have to have. And it's probably
better than obviously it's better than humans, I'm sure, and
probably safer at some point, but I just can't get
my head around.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, man, I don't even trust myself with cruise control,
you know what I mean, Like, I want to be
in control. Let me handle this. I trust myself in
this spot. I'm the one that went to driving school.
I'm the one that's you know, been in fender benders before.
All right, I've got a wealth of experience. Okay, I
don't need a driverless car to get me to where
I want to go, especially one that's just going to
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stop in the middle of the road if the transmission blows,
you know what I mean, Like, do what the rest
of us have done. If your car has some sort
of an issue, you probably push it a little bit
too long, but you get over to the side of
the road.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, Like, I don't don't stop in the middle of
the road. Now, it's a problem for everybody behind you,
and then you could cause a pile up like that.
That feels problem, man.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Then you feel like you're getting punked right stop in
the middle of the road. Then you try to get
out and starts to go. You're like, Okay, what am
I doing here? I gotta get out of this damn thing.
It ain't got no driver. I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, and they're they're looking at like, you know, the
UFOs and all these things in the sky, and I
just remember back to I don't know how many treacherous
team flights you've been on, but I just think about,
you know, in the movie Major League, when they were
trying to cut costs and they put them up in
that plane that looked.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's like, so we've now gone from that too. Things
that can dart in and out of the water up
in the skies. Game has completely changed, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, it really has. Hey, Jonas, there's some things happening
around the NBA. Man, let's get into that. On the
other side, Hey, welcome back down to home Stretch, Rodney Peak.
Jonas knocks on a five to seventy LA sports Breaking
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news today, Jonas. The New York Knicks. The New York
Knicks fire Tom Thibodeaux after getting to the Eastern Conference
Finals losing to Indianapolis or indian excuse me. They fired
Tom Thibodeau kind of a weird, weird firing because they
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had He's gotten the Knicks rocking and listening to the
players as they were doing their exit interviews and after
the season, most all of them were in support of
Tom Thibodau. And now we hear that he's gone.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Your thoughts, what a miserable job to have NBA coach
because even if you do well, eventually you're gonna get clipped.
Mike Malone just got fired with four games left in
the season or whatever it was, and he just won
a title in Denver, and so the speculation is maybe
that could be a guy that the Knicks would target,
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you know, Mike Malone could be a potential candidate there.
There's some people that thought because of the Villanova connections
and maybe Jay Wright could could be of interest there.
But the Knicks fans were climbing stuff in the streets.
They were celebrating they hadn't gotten this far in the
postseason in twenty five years, and the guy gets fired.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't haven't. Like you said, the
streets were crazy, even in away games. They had block
parties going and people were going nuts over this team.
And now I know they didn't make it to the finals,
but like you said, they haven't been there in a
long time, and it felt like there it feels like
they're on the right track. You know, with New York,
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They've got the young players, they got the star in Brunson,
you know. I know there's some concerns over over Karl
Anthony Towns and his lack of defense, but he came
up big for them in several moments. But they're not
far off. I think they are a team that if
they have any kind of continuity, can keep it going.
But I think you're right. I think they have and
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maybe Malone or maybe Jay Wright, but I think there's
someone waiting in the wings that they couldn't wait anymore
that they wanted to have this job.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, and it also tells you that he was
probably gonna get clipped anyways, because look, they get past
the Celtics, Jason Tatum gets hurt late in that series.
He's done. Jalen Brown reportedly came in with a partially
torn mcl or whatever it was. Clearly he wasn't one
hundred percent. Christaps Porzingis was a mess the entire time
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because he has some illness that he has not been
able to recover from, and just he didn't have the
gas and he looked like a shell of himself compared
to what he was a year before. So you get
past the Celtics, you get to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Had the Celtics been healthy and they'd beaten the Knicks
like everybody projected them to, Tom Thibodeau's probably fired. The
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fact that he was still fired even after getting past
Boston getting to the Eastern Conference Finals tells me that
sans them going to the NBA Finals, he was probably
gonna get fired anyways, Like this was probably already on
the table and already in the works, because to do
it now feels odd like it just like it feels strange.
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But it's the NBA and we see this so often
where whether it's you know, Mike Budenholzer, whether you're like
like like Frank Vogel, like all these guys who have
had success. Like if you're Joe Mazzula, you're looking around
going all right, I mean one more bad year and
I'm going to be out of here. I just yeah.
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It's but that's say, you know, if Mike Malone's their target,
and he's the one that they think could take him
over the over the net, over the edge, and over
the next step and beyond, go for it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I just outside. It used to be a time where
you know, continuity mattered, you know it mattered, and you
know you you wanted to keep things together, players together,
coaches together, especially if you haven't a certain level of success.
But you're right, we're seeing so many guys get fired
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and this is all cross sports. Get fired after one year,
two years, and it's not just a bad year we
get you know, guys get fired after having a good year.
You know you mentioned, you know, Frank Vogel, he got
fired here at the Lakers two years, removed from a title.
You know, Malone two years, a year and a half
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removed from a title, and in four games towards the
end of the season, he and the GM get clipped.
And I don't know what part of ownership or management
believes that if we change coaches every two years, that's
going to get us a championship.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's why whenever Doc Rivers, you know, goes back like, man,
you're a great broadcaster, let's just do that. What Why
would anybody want that job? Because ultimately it's a players league.
The players have all the control. It's been set up
that way, and if you've got a disgruntled player, if
you've got somebody who either doesn't see eye to eye
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with the coach, it's going to cost you your job.
That's just going to be that to where Man Belichick
and Brady were, you know, apparently at odds, you know,
for for quite a while there, and they realize, yeah,
but they're better together. Let's keep this thing going for
as long as we can. And arguably they probably should
have kept it going longer based on how Brady played
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in Tampa. But in the NBA, one down year, even
after a bunch of good years and you're out. And
now it's to the point to where one good year
after a bunch of down years, you're out. Then they
said done this. They haven't done it in twenty five years.
This is the best team and the best run they've
had in a quarter century, and he's gone. It's just
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a it's a wild league, man, And that's that's a
terrible job to have it any coach that's coaching in
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you're right about Doc Rivers. Why why he could
he could go the next twenty years, you know on
the mic and and wants to get back to it.
But certain guys just want to do that and you know.
It's why I always go nuts when people would would say, oh,
we got to get rid of Dave Roberts, You got
to get rid of Dave Robins, you know, because they've
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they're falling into that same trap of let's get the
next guy in here, because the next guy is going
to be better after you've had success, right, because you know,
once you get it's just like anything. You know, Boston
Tatum goes down, Jalen Brown is hobbled, going on one leg.
That doesn't happen every single year. Yeah, you don't know
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what's going to happen once you get to the playoffs.
Things have to go right. People make the playoffs for
a reason, and things have to go right for you. You
have to be healthy, the ball has to bounce your way.
But all that talk of Dave Roberts, after he's gone
to multiple World Series and multiple Division titles, it's like,
let's get rid of them, let's get rid of him. No, No,
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you want the guy that's gonna constantly get you to
the playoffs and gets you in a position to win
it all every single year.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And it's like, Okay, get rid of him. Who do
you want?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
YEA? Who you bringing in, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Who's the what's so, what's the answer. If he's not
the answer, what's the answer? And that's why I'm glad that,
you know, he was rewarded with the contract he got.
That's why I'm glad that they've they've stuck it out
with him. And you can argue, well, you know, it's
not like managing it like it was back in the
day to where you know, the analytics dictate what you do, okay,
but you still have to keep a clubhouse together. Like
people want to discredit what Phil Jackson did, But based
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on what we know now from the Last Dance documentary
and all the drama there behind the scenes, and also
the relationship between Shaq and Kobe and having to manage
that while he was here, Phil Jackson deserves a ton.
He probably doesn't get enough credit because everyone looks at
it and says, well, he's just got a bunch of talent. No,
there's still a job to be done when it comes
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to managing personalities. Dave Roberts has done a phenomenal job
of that. Phil Jackson did a great job. Apparently Tom
Thibodeau didn't and now he's gone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's it. That's it Jonas always man, Always a pleasure
having you on. Man, It's always a good time to
chop it up with you for three hours on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Brother Rodney, Love you guys, Thank you to you, Thanks Kevin,
thanks Ronnie. Appreciate you guys. Let me hang out.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Always fun, all right. We stay tuned for Petros and
Money Dodgers tonight against the Mets. David Basset on the pregame,
and we will see you tomorrow. Peace,
Oh, we weld keep it moving on a Tuesday afternoon.
Thanks for hanging out with us, Rodney Pete, Jonas Knox,
and for Fred Rogan. And let's do it right now.
Jon Let's get out to the stadium and talk to
our man, David Basse. Hell, yeah, yes, my barbecue brother,
David Basse. How you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm doing great, Rodney, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Absolutely, man, Absolutely, let's get into it, Dave. Last night,
Tanner Scott another another blown, blown save and struggling balls
are jumping off the bat in his last few outings.
Is is it just a matter of location, Dave with
him as he said before, or is there something else
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going on?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, at this point, it's got to be confidence.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It doesn't seem like he's saw in pitches with a
lot of conviction. He isn't walking as many hitters as
he did last year. But what Tanner Scott is not
a guy like Edwin Diaz right or Emmanuel Classe where
they just burst on to the scene and were dominant closers.
It's been a slow build to get to where he
was starting two years ago with the Marlins. So it's
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not like this guy is automatic. But he has been
one of the best for the last year and a
half and we haven't seen the guy that we saw
last year. And that's concerning pitching for the Dodgers. I
know everybody loves to talk about New York, and yeah,
New York's a pressure cooker with the fans, but Dodger
(01:29):
Stadium players have told me this over the course of
the last eight years. Dodger Stadium people know that, the
players know there's a lot of expectations and the fans
are going to be on you, and sometimes it's not
made for everybody. I'm not saying that's the case with
Tanner Scott, but you have to wonder if his confidence
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is as big of an issue as his pitching mechanics.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Dave, have you heard because I was reading Jeff Pass
and had an article about potential fit it's if there's
a trade to be made at the deadline for teams
around Major League Baseball, and one of the names that
he pointed out or brought up that could potentially be
a possibility would be Walker Bueller back to the Dodgers
at the deadline if the Red Sox fall apart. Have
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you heard anything along those lines as well too?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well? J just pass them. Must be a podcasting Dodger talk,
because I brought that up last Wednesday. There you go,
thanks for listening, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And you know what, David, I was actually gonna be
Fred because I was listening to you postgame after Tanner
Scott blew that game against the Guardians, and I was
wondering how your interactions have been with him since that time,
because you went in on Tanner Scott then, and that
was before what happened last night.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, when they got back from the road trip, I
was there in the clubhouse. You had to be seen
and take the heat, and we talked it out. He
understood that my intentions are never to demean anybody, but
obviously the fans are seeing what you guys have seen
and it's hard to justify, you know, a guy that
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the Dodgers signed to a big contract not performing. But
last night, you got to give Tanner Scott a lot
of credit. He was at his locker and last Wednesday
in Cleveland, he was there. He was there in his chair,
but the media didn't go to him. They made the
poor judgment of going to talk to Alex Vesia. But yeah,
that's the difference between guys like me and no offense Jonas,
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guys like you that just stay in the studio and
just rip guys and never see them. I mean, that's
that's the difference. You and Ben Mallard never show up
with Aaron Rodgers. You never go to a Jets practice.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Listen, Dave, Ben and I are kind of like when
they're doing the home run derby. There's a net in
front of us when we pitch. You've got no net.
You're willing to take. You're willing to take a shot
straight to the chest.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm not. I'm not like trying to put you down.
But that's the difference between the job that I do
and most everybody else. Now in sports media, you don't
see guys show up after they they criticize a player.
You know, that's why everybody just has these hot takes
because they never have to see these people. I have
to see them every day.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I can't tell you how many how many guys in
Philadelphia were afraid to come in, afraid to come into
the locker room. But that's all he wanted to do
is rip guys from afar and then would never show
up on during the week, on media days or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Rodney. Do you remember the Rams quarterback back in the day,
James Harrison. Yeah, yeah, I heard that a former l
l A columnist, Duck recording with The Herald Examiner just
rip the you know what out of James Harrison. And
when he showed up at the next Rams practice, James
Harrison chased him around the entire practice. Would you like
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to see Aaron Rodgers Mallard down?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That would be a site that we wouldn't never get
that image out of our heads. Dave, what can you
tell about some of the guys coming back? Understand Kirby,
Yates and Kopeck might have some action here in the
next few days.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, Copek is here. He made his ninth rehab appearance
two days ago, so it makes sense that he wasn't
available yesterday. But Coopec's coming back, and you keep your
fingers crossed that he can stay healthy. Obviously, he was
pitching through arm pain last year in the postseason. But
another guy you got to give a lot of credit
(05:32):
to that he never tapped out. He kept going despite
his arm hanging by a string, and he felt the
residual effects of that in spring training. That's why he
hasn't thrown one pitch yet this season. But Kirby Yates's
injury is not an arm injury. It's a right hamstring injury,
as you know, and I would expect him to be
back when the Dodgers hit the road this weekend. In
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Saint Louis, he threw a bullpen session yesterday. I believe
he's going to throw another one tomorrow, so things are
looking good. And really, guys, when the Dodgers return home
after this road trip from Saint Louis and San Diego,
their bullpen is going to look a lot better because
Kopek will be back, Kirby Yates will be back, and
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the Dodgers are working on Alexis Diaz, the former All
Star with the Reds, and I talked to his brother, Edwin,
and he said that he is over the moon, overjoyed
that the Dodgers traded for him because he believes that
they can help him get back to where he was
and maybe even better. So by the time we're talking
the next time in Los Angeles, the Dodger bullpen's going
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to look a lot better, hopefully day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know, Dave, we know you got a run, But quickly,
Tyler Glass, now what can you tell us.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Not much, Jonas he's not bitching. It's a great mystery.
What is really ailing glass now? But it's unfortunate that
he shut down pitching off the mound and he's throwing
off flat ground. I can tell you Blake Snell is
going to throw a bullpen session next Tuesday in San Diego.
So he's pushing to come back. He's working hard to
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get back. He wants, he wants to be there.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I always wonder when guys, is my body hurts,
my full body hurts, and it's nothing specific. It always
concerns me. Dave, Hey, Dave, who do you got on
the pregame tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I got thirty year Major League gumpire Brian Gorman on
the show. He's the Mike Pereira for Major League Baseball
on their Apple broadcast and he's out here on Los
Angeles a lot. So he's going to join us and
talk about just the dynamics of the strike zone these days,
and also the two challenges that were and umpiring calls
(07:47):
that were made last weekend in New York. So Brian
Gorman is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Very cool, very cool. Well, always a pleasure, Dave, Thanks
for joining us. I know you're running out there at
the ballpark doing your thing, man, so we really really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Thanks Dave, Hey, all good guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There he goes our man David Bathsey, always doing his thing.
Oh wait a minute, Jonas, we still have one more
pair of tickets to give away for tomorrow Knights game,
so we do it. Now, give me a number, Jonas,
(08:22):
give me a number.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Let's go, number four, number four, four, number four, call
it in A sixty six ninety seven two five seventy
is the number two pair two tickets?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Scuse not two pair two tickets to tomorrow Knights game
against the Mets. Let's go. And are you big on sightings? Jonahs?
I want to know if you're big on mysterious sightings?
Are you? Are you that kind of guy? Yeah? Yeah,
we got to get into that. A and five seventy
la sports Roddy p. Jonas knots on a Tuesday. And
(08:55):
congratulations to Joseph and long beat. Joseph and long beach man,
you are going to the Dodger game tomorrow night. Congratulations. Uh,
you're doing it man, absolutely, Jonas. At you a big
guy and like believing in sightings UFOs things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh man, most conspiracy I don't want to say most,
they're like conspiracy theories. There's some that are just preposterous,
but I entertain all of them. I think it's fascinating.
I love to read about them. I love to hear
somebody like, even though I don't agree with it, Like
tell me why you believe the Earth is flat? I
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just want to know why. And sometimes people will make
compelling arguments.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, you could sit there and listen to Kyrie for
like an hour, tell you why he thinks the Earth
is flat.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, it's like like really like, oh yeah, look it
up on you and you know, you go to YouTube
and there's all these, you know, different videos like you know,
the moon landing, you know, being fake. I mean, hey, listen,
there's some stuff out there that's kind of curious about
all that. So there there are there are elements of
conspirac And when I was in elementary school, I found
(10:04):
the section I remember at Glenwood Elementary School, I found
this section that was all about UFO's bigfoot Lockness Monster,
the Abominable Snowman, and I just started renting because they
were like, you need to pick a book to read.
We had already blown through all the other books, and
all the other books sucked. So I was like, all right,
(10:24):
well let me look at this. And so I read
about all that stuff as a kid, so I've always
been fascinating.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, apparently there's a new viral video that's going around
right now of a sighting of Bigfoot in Colorado near
the Upper Colorado River that was captured by some hikers
and they claimed that it is bookfoot Bigfoot. Now there
are signs of it. Looks like a hairy creature that
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is in the pines and kind of peeks his head
out and looks around the corner and eating something and
and then goes about his business.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I mean, how did they know they weren't filming a
Jacklinks commercial?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Like like they could have been filming a beef beef
jerky commercial. And you know, the guy was there trying
to h trying to show off, and you know, get
get some get some reps in and and some different
looks for the camera crew this video. Because here's the
other issue. AI has changed everything. Oh yeah, you don't
(11:31):
know what to believe? Yeah, like we're getting we're getting
catfished with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Now, well yeah, like yeah, like twenty years ago you
could say, okay, you can't manipulate it or anything like that,
you know, but technology has grown so much that you
don't know what is real. Have you seen you've seen
these you know, these interviews of guys after the games
where they manipulate, like Shani all Right to have him
(11:57):
doing the interview after they beat the Yankees. Yeah, have
you seen the one of Have you.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Seen the one where Jok talked about winning the MVP
and he said he lets his horses play with his trophies.
He los his horses And if you just heard the clip,
if you're just listening on the radio, you go, oh
my god, he really lets his horses play with this trophy.
But then you actually watch the video of it, and
you can see the mouth doesn't quite line up, you know,
(12:26):
with with what they're with what they're trying to say. So, yeah,
AI has completely changed everything. Like the good old days
it used to be where lockness, you know, the Locknest monster.
Everyone thought the Locknest Monster might have been a real thing.
And you know the one big picture that was out
there with Rainy, Yeah, the picture of the of the
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you know, the the lock ness coming out of the
water that in Scotland, and then you know, you come
to find out it was some alcoholic in scuba gear.
He put a sock on his hand and he raised
it up out of the water and they took a picture.
Bigfoot just feels, like I've said this before, of all
the ones that I'm willing to entertain, this one, just
this one feels ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, it feels feels ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like I wonder if the initial Bigfoot was some people
out camping one night and you know, somebody's drunk uncle
got after it a little bit too hard, started blowing
through the wild turkey and next thing you know, he
tars and feathers himself and runs around the woods and everyone's, oh,
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it's a big, giant, hairy creature. And the guy just
happened to be like six three six four, and they
just ran with that story. Like I wonder if that's
where this all started. This video of this bigfoot running
around in the woods seem seems kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Does seem ridiculous. And my question is how old is Bigfoot? Right?
Is it the same Bigfoot or Bigfoot had kids because
we've been hearing by Bigfoot, I think, or I think
people have been hearing about Bigfoot for over one hundred
years now. Yeah, and so I'm under it if it's
are these the offspring of Bigfoot that people are seeing?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, you remember Harry and the Henderson's, Oh yeah, like
like I think Harry and the Henderson's, uh, you know,
he had offspring, Like they were like a little Bigfoot
that we're running around, which is interesting because you know,
you've got a little Bigfoot, then you've got you know,
the monster truck Bigfoot. Like it just feels like this,
this whole thing's kind of taken on a life of
its own. But apparently we're dusting off bigfooting it. The
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one that is fascinating that there's got to be something
too is UFOs that they're now with the UAPs and
the stuff underwater.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now that I tend, I tend to have a little
belief that there there are some UFOs out there now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like you've got naval like people that work in the
navy pilots that are swearing under oath. Listen, I've got
the video of it. You can and you see the
video off the coast of San Diego, and it was
this guy, David Fraver, who's a pilot. And you see
these UFOs darting in and out of the water, right
like in and out of the water. And now there's
(15:04):
some speculation that there's you know, a base underwater where
some of these so they're calling them UAPs where they're
unidentified aerial phenomena like that stuff. And we've seen enough
videos that have come out, you know, that whole the
whole drone thing that was going on in New Jersey,
whatever the hell that was. I don't know if you've
seen a UFO. I'd love to see UFO. And I'm
(15:24):
letting this be known right now. If they want to
bring me on the ship, show me around, you're okay
with that. I'll keep it a secret, like don't touch me, right,
I don't want it to turn into fire in the
sky where I'm having assaulted.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Donut dug me. But yeah, yeah, show me around, tell
me about your secrets, tell me about your place, you know,
your planet. But it is that went to me like
the bigfoot locked nest, abominal snowman whatever. But yeah, to
suggest that the where we are with technology and then
how big and vast spaces that we're the only ones
(16:04):
that Yeah, it's just we're the only ones. No one
else is visited here. Like, let's let's do an autopsy
on area fifty one. Let's let it, let everybody in,
Let's let the cameras in, let's see what we really
got there, you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, you know they're they're talking about you've got
these experts that are saying, well, they've discovered crafts that
move in a way that nothing we have moves like
like there's nothing, you know, we can't even replicate it.
And so that's why they're so hush hush about it.
And then you've got all these other theories that have
come in about you know, does this You know, there's
(16:38):
scripture in the Bible potentially that alludes to this. There's
pictures that are drawn, you know, in certain like on
the pyramids and whatnot. What do they have to do?
So there's all these different but the but the issue
is you get a couple of weirdos and a couple
of junkies who are doing whatever they're doing and with
(16:59):
their space time, and they start reporting, oh I saw
uf phone. It's what you sure you did, Yeah, just right.
And then you it's like these AI videos of Bigfoot.
Then you start to go down this hole and you're like, okay, dude,
like you, you're muddying the waters for the rest of
us who are coming at this from an honest standpoint,
because you want to be a weirdo and try and
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light everybody and make believe that you're actually seeing some
of this stuff in real time.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah so, but but but you're right about the where
we are now because of AI and because of technology,
because of all the drones. It it's becoming increasingly difficult
to believe certain things because of what we can do
and the capabilities that we have. Like who's to say
they can't build a drone that can dip in and
(17:48):
out of water now or hover, you know, as high
as a plane as it starts to take off or
doesn't doesn't get to the altitude you know, at at
a certain certain pace. A drone can can mimic that
or can get to the same height as a plane
and you can see it out the window going, oh
my god, that's a that's a UFO when it's actually
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could be a drone.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Like if they get crazy, you get in a Tesla
that doesn't look like anything that we grew up driving.
It doesn't look like anything anybody grew up driving. You
get in a test. I remember the first time I
ever heard a tesla. I was like putting something into
my truck, or I was like loading something in the back,
and I heard this noise behind me, Like what the
(18:31):
hell is that? I thought it sounded like something a
UFO would sound like, and it was somebody backing out
in their Tesla, because it makes that weird noise that
when it backs out. Wait, wait what? And the first
time I ever gotten one was I got an uber
and the guy got on the freeway and merged into
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traffic so fast that I couldn't even believe it. And
it wasn't even like he had the newest model Tesla.
It just goes to show you there's technology that's out
there that we don't even have yet that who knows,
maybe the you know, the UFOs, whatever you want to
there's stuff out there that we have that's unbelievable. Imagine
the stuff that they don't want us to know about
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yet because they're in some sort of a race with
other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Said what they got in the campuses of Google and
Apple and all those places, or or even you know,
bigger places like that. Fred and I were talking about these, uh,
these driverless cars. Now you know that's got all the
sensors that are out there. He was talking about. His
son got in one of those cars and drove it
and it got a signal or it got a transmission
(19:38):
in the car just stopped in the middle of the
road and wouldn't move anymore, and they had to get
out in the middle of the road.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So Fred Fred's son calls Fred to come change change
the transmission in the middle of the road.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I don't know if I'm ready to get in a
driverless car just yet, don'ts They're all over in Arizona though,
by the way, all over Phoenix, and and you know,
you see them everywhere, and it's it's you know, I
think a lot of them are obviously solar powered, but
they're all over and it's just incredible. But again, I
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just can't wrap my head around the instincts that you
have to have if you're driving a car, and just
the awareness that you have to have. And it's probably
better than obviously it's better than humans, I'm sure, and
probably safer at some point, but I just can't get
my head around.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean, man, I don't even trust myself with cruise control,
you know what I mean, Like, I want to be
in control. Let me handle this. I trust myself in
this spot. I'm the one that went to driving school.
I'm the one that's you know, been in fender benders before.
All right, I've got a wealth of experience. Okay, I
don't need a driverless car to get me to where
I want to go, especially one that's just going to
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stop in the middle of the road if the transmission blows,
you know what I mean, Like, do what the rest
of us have done. If your car has some sort
of an issue, you probably push it a little bit
too long, but you get over to the side of
the road.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, Like, I don't don't stop in the middle of
the road. Now, it's a problem for everybody behind you,
and then you could cause a pile up like that.
That feels problem, man.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Then you feel like you're getting punked right stop in
the middle of the road. Then you try to get
out and starts to go. You're like, Okay, what am
I doing here? I gotta get out of this damn thing.
It ain't got no driver. I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, and they're they're looking at like, you know, the
UFOs and all these things in the sky, and I
just remember back to I don't know how many treacherous
team flights you've been on, but I just think about,
you know, in the movie Major League, when they were
trying to cut costs and they put them up in
that plane that looked.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's like, so we've now gone from that too. Things
that can dart in and out of the water up
in the skies. Game has completely changed, Rodney.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, it really has. Hey, Jonas, there's some things happening
around the NBA. Man, let's get into that. On the
other side, Hey, welcome back down to home Stretch, Rodney Peak.
Jonas knocks on a five to seventy LA sports Breaking
(22:05):
news today, Jonas. The New York Knicks. The New York
Knicks fire Tom Thibodeaux after getting to the Eastern Conference
Finals losing to Indianapolis or indian excuse me. They fired
Tom Thibodeau kind of a weird, weird firing because they
(22:27):
had He's gotten the Knicks rocking and listening to the
players as they were doing their exit interviews and after
the season, most all of them were in support of
Tom Thibodau. And now we hear that he's gone.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Your thoughts, what a miserable job to have NBA coach
because even if you do well, eventually you're gonna get clipped.
Mike Malone just got fired with four games left in
the season or whatever it was, and he just won
a title in Denver, and so the speculation is maybe
that could be a guy that the Knicks would target,
(23:05):
you know, Mike Malone could be a potential candidate there.
There's some people that thought because of the Villanova connections
and maybe Jay Wright could could be of interest there.
But the Knicks fans were climbing stuff in the streets.
They were celebrating they hadn't gotten this far in the
postseason in twenty five years, and the guy gets fired.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't haven't. Like you said, the
streets were crazy, even in away games. They had block
parties going and people were going nuts over this team.
And now I know they didn't make it to the finals,
but like you said, they haven't been there in a
long time, and it felt like there it feels like
they're on the right track. You know, with New York,
(23:47):
They've got the young players, they got the star in Brunson,
you know. I know there's some concerns over over Karl
Anthony Towns and his lack of defense, but he came
up big for them in several moments. But they're not
far off. I think they are a team that if
they have any kind of continuity, can keep it going.
But I think you're right. I think they have and
(24:09):
maybe Malone or maybe Jay Wright, but I think there's
someone waiting in the wings that they couldn't wait anymore
that they wanted to have this job.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, and it also tells you that he was
probably gonna get clipped anyways, because look, they get past
the Celtics, Jason Tatum gets hurt late in that series.
He's done. Jalen Brown reportedly came in with a partially
torn mcl or whatever it was. Clearly he wasn't one
hundred percent. Christaps Porzingis was a mess the entire time
(24:40):
because he has some illness that he has not been
able to recover from, and just he didn't have the
gas and he looked like a shell of himself compared
to what he was a year before. So you get
past the Celtics, you get to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Had the Celtics been healthy and they'd beaten the Knicks
like everybody projected them to, Tom Thibodeau's probably fired. The
(25:02):
fact that he was still fired even after getting past
Boston getting to the Eastern Conference Finals tells me that
sans them going to the NBA Finals, he was probably
gonna get fired anyways, Like this was probably already on
the table and already in the works, because to do
it now feels odd like it just like it feels strange.
(25:24):
But it's the NBA and we see this so often
where whether it's you know, Mike Budenholzer, whether you're like
like like Frank Vogel, like all these guys who have
had success. Like if you're Joe Mazzula, you're looking around
going all right, I mean one more bad year and
I'm going to be out of here. I just yeah.
(25:44):
It's but that's say, you know, if Mike Malone's their target,
and he's the one that they think could take him
over the over the net, over the edge, and over
the next step and beyond, go for it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I just outside. It used to be a time where
you know, continuity mattered, you know it mattered, and you
know you you wanted to keep things together, players together,
coaches together, especially if you haven't a certain level of success.
But you're right, we're seeing so many guys get fired
(26:16):
and this is all cross sports. Get fired after one year,
two years, and it's not just a bad year we
get you know, guys get fired after having a good year.
You know you mentioned, you know, Frank Vogel, he got
fired here at the Lakers two years, removed from a title.
You know, Malone two years, a year and a half
(26:38):
removed from a title, and in four games towards the
end of the season, he and the GM get clipped.
And I don't know what part of ownership or management
believes that if we change coaches every two years, that's
going to get us a championship.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's why whenever Doc Rivers, you know, goes back like, man,
you're a great broadcaster, let's just do that. What Why
would anybody want that job? Because ultimately it's a players league.
The players have all the control. It's been set up
that way, and if you've got a disgruntled player, if
you've got somebody who either doesn't see eye to eye
(27:13):
with the coach, it's going to cost you your job.
That's just going to be that to where Man Belichick
and Brady were, you know, apparently at odds, you know,
for for quite a while there, and they realize, yeah,
but they're better together. Let's keep this thing going for
as long as we can. And arguably they probably should
have kept it going longer based on how Brady played
(27:35):
in Tampa. But in the NBA, one down year, even
after a bunch of good years and you're out. And
now it's to the point to where one good year
after a bunch of down years, you're out. Then they
said done this. They haven't done it in twenty five years.
This is the best team and the best run they've
had in a quarter century, and he's gone. It's just
(27:57):
a it's a wild league, man, And that's that's a
terrible job to have it any coach that's coaching in
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, you're right about Doc Rivers. Why why he could
he could go the next twenty years, you know on
the mic and and wants to get back to it.
But certain guys just want to do that and you know.
It's why I always go nuts when people would would say, oh,
we got to get rid of Dave Roberts, You got
to get rid of Dave Robins, you know, because they've
(28:25):
they're falling into that same trap of let's get the
next guy in here, because the next guy is going
to be better after you've had success, right, because you know,
once you get it's just like anything. You know, Boston
Tatum goes down, Jalen Brown is hobbled, going on one leg.
That doesn't happen every single year. Yeah, you don't know
(28:47):
what's going to happen once you get to the playoffs.
Things have to go right. People make the playoffs for
a reason, and things have to go right for you. You
have to be healthy, the ball has to bounce your way.
But all that talk of Dave Roberts, after he's gone
to multiple World Series and multiple Division titles, it's like,
let's get rid of them, let's get rid of him. No, No,
(29:10):
you want the guy that's gonna constantly get you to
the playoffs and gets you in a position to win
it all every single year.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And it's like, Okay, get rid of him. Who do
you want?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
YEA? Who you bringing in, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Who's the what's so, what's the answer. If he's not
the answer, what's the answer? And that's why I'm glad that,
you know, he was rewarded with the contract he got.
That's why I'm glad that they've they've stuck it out
with him. And you can argue, well, you know, it's
not like managing it like it was back in the
day to where you know, the analytics dictate what you do, okay,
but you still have to keep a clubhouse together. Like
people want to discredit what Phil Jackson did, But based
(29:43):
on what we know now from the Last Dance documentary
and all the drama there behind the scenes, and also
the relationship between Shaq and Kobe and having to manage
that while he was here, Phil Jackson deserves a ton.
He probably doesn't get enough credit because everyone looks at
it and says, well, he's just got a bunch of talent. No,
there's still a job to be done when it comes
(30:03):
to managing personalities. Dave Roberts has done a phenomenal job
of that. Phil Jackson did a great job. Apparently Tom
Thibodeau didn't and now he's gone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's it. That's it Jonas always man, Always a pleasure
having you on. Man, It's always a good time to
chop it up with you for three hours on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Brother Rodney, Love you guys, Thank you to you, Thanks Kevin,
thanks Ronnie. Appreciate you guys. Let me hang out.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Always fun, all right. We stay tuned for Petros and
Money Dodgers tonight against the Mets. David Basset on the pregame,
and we will see you tomorrow. Peace,
Roggin And Rodney News
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