June 6, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob Manfred wants to bring the ball/strike challenge system to MLB next season. Josh Furhman talks about his cool aeriel videos over iconic venues in LA. Could the NBA expand?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy LA Sports are thanks to the big Man
Benoit Benjamin Rodney for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
No, absolutely, he was gracious enough to hang out Beanoit
is one Fred and you've known it for a long
long time. But he is he is real. There's no
pulling punches and he's he's absolutely hilarious. But there you know,
there's no filter when it comes to Benoit. He is
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going to say what's on the top of his head
and mind and let you know about it. And it
may be right wrong or whatever, but but you got
you gotta love the fact that he just says it
like it is for him and it may not be
the way it is, but he says it like the
way it is in Benoit's world.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Uh, if you want information on the movie at Panoit
Movie on your socials at Banoit Movie on your Socials.
We are giving away Dodger tickets, not right now, but
coming soon because we're only on for two hours today
and a couple of minutes. Josh Furman, who does a
site called above La. He takes the most spectacular videos.
But as a matter of fact, when I was doing
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the challenge. I saw his stuff on Instagram and I
called them because Channel four never could take the kind
of videos he could from the sky, and I asked
hif we could use his videos and give him credit,
and he said sure. So that's how we built the
challenge open when it was flying over then Staples Center,
all these nighttime shots and stuff, that was all his video.
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And the other day, Rodney, you sent something, right, it
was his video and it was Vin scully narration underneath it.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It was incredib believable. It was incredible. It was just
the love of Dodger Stadium and the shots were of
Dodger Stadium from different viewpoints with narrations from Vin Scully
over the years of all the major moments in Dodger
history and just I mean from daytime to night time.
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But the scenery and the view when you really look
at it and look at it from above, meaning Dodger
Stadium from above, it is one of the most iconic
beautiful settings in all of sports and sports arenas. So
it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I had to share that with you guys because I
got emotional when I was looking at it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was great. I think Kevin's got some of it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
We'll run it when Josh comes on, but he's going
to be here at about one fifteen so we can
talk about it, all right. So the Dodgers are in
Saint Louis tonight. We know that, we talked about it
last hour. Michael Confordo got a hit finally, knock going
to run and it was a big one. Tanner Scott
got a save and the world is right once again
for the Dodgers. But as you have watched games this year,
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and it's something we talk about every season, and every season,
you say, oh, no, it couldn't get any worse. Balls
and strikes, Balls and strikes, Angel Hernandez. They just retired him.
Were remember correctly one day, I'm retiring. No, that means
you've been retired. Yeah, and you have the choice in
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the middle of the season, wasn't it right, Yeah? Yeah,
nobody says in the middle of the well, that's it
for me. I'm retiring now. God forbid. He's not sick,
and no one ever said that. But he was gone.
So you think, wow, that'll clean things up.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not so much. Not so much. Calling balls and strikes
is difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
There are games this year that I have seen where
it has been so bad it defies logic. It just
defies logic. You can't believe the guy missed a call
like that. So Rob Manfred says baseball is going to
propose automated ball strike challenge system for use at the
big league level, And there we go, and he's going
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to submit it during the off season. That's another step
closer to you know what's coming, and that would be
the automated strike zone. So I think after next season,
and Rodney Kevin correct me if I'm wrong, that is
when the player's contract is up.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It is correct, all right, I'm right, ye, all.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Right, So after the twenty sixth season, yes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, in that negotiation, I will bet you any amount
of money they try to put the automatic strike zone
in permanently. I think that'll be one of the bargaining
points in the negotiation with the players. The automatic stakes,
no doubt, no doubt. I mean it's headed that way.
They tested it in spring training this past year. You know,
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despite my.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Traditional point of view and not liking it so much,
technology has gotten to the point where we've got to
utilize it and utilize it to the best. And if
they do it and incorporate it the right way. I
think it works. They did it where the with the
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hitter and the catcher and the pitcher were the only
ones that could dispute a call in spring training. I
don't know how it goes forward, but it's coming because
we saw even in the Dodger Mets game this past weekend,
there were some calls Freddy that were and against the Dodgers.
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I mean yeah, I was like, thank god I was
a Dodger fan because it was bad. Edwin Diaz through
like I think three pitches that were basically almost right
down the middle and they called they were called balls,
and You're like, ooh ooh, this is not good. This
is not good. So if we have the capabilities, then
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you got to start to utilize it. So I'm coming
around to your side a little bit, fred on this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Don't you remember when we first talked about the challenge system. Yeah,
they were talking about using it, and I remember we
were trying to figure out, you know, how were they
going to challenge it. And you sat there and here's
the pitch and go challenge. You would just yell out
the challenge if you had a challenge challenge.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, challenge.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think about that sometimes and I laugh when you
did that challenge. Just people yell and challenge challenge it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh no, no, but you know it's been how they
regulated because it's obviously going to be regulated a certain way.
But it's going to eliminate all of that, right, so
it's going to be called and in the umpire. I mean,
the mechanics of it is something that we're going to
figure out as we go along, whether it's just automatically
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and real time they'll say it's a strike and the
umpire will signal, because there's any think a lot of
people still believe that would Is that eliminate the umpire
behind the plate? No, it doesn't. There's always going to
be an umpire behind behind the plate. He's going to
also be able because he's got to be there to
call somebody out at home plate if there's a play.
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It's not going to eliminate him. And then how quickly
are you going to get the call if it's a
ball or strike? And is there going to be a delay?
And I think with the way it is now with technology,
it'll be instantaneously so you can you can see it.
The pitch comes it's a striker ball, you'll know as
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soon as if the umpire was calling it a ball
or strike. So are you saying that's what the automated
strike zone or the challenge the automatic strike zone, That's
what I'm saying with okay, but with the challenge part
of it right now, the challenge part of it is
going to be the crazy part. That's going to be
the interesting part.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
In spring training, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You tap your helmet, Yeah, you tap your helmet. And
you see there were recently, like I think a week
ago or somewhere, somebody got tossed. Somebody got tossed for
tapping their helmet and mocking the umpire. He tapped his
helmet the hit or tapped his helmet and the umpires
what what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You're going? I mean he tapped his helmet. Boom, go out,
You're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, because I think he complained earlier in that count
or in that bat about a call that he had made.
It's like, what are you doing. It's a terrible call.
That balls out or that ball's low. And then when
he got wrung up, he tapped his helmet as if
they could go to replay, which is not a you know,
it's not happening today. He tapped his helmet and the
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umpire was like, okay, you're out, get out of here.
They just ran them immediately. But I love it though.
I loved that he tapped his helmet because it was
it was not a strike. It was not a strike.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
If you can use that challenge system, and you know,
they have to figure out and I'm trying to remember
what they were talking about in the past, you get
like one a game or two a game or something.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I think it was three. I think three, okay, But
you know, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Use them all up, and once you use them, do
you lose them? Or if you use them in your right.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Do you keep them. That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know
the protocol of that. But the question was, if you're
a hitter and it's in the second inning and it's
two outs and nobody on and there's a questionable call,
and you start using that tap tap and a helmet,
you know your team is gonna go, what.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Are you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's the second innie and there's nobody on base and
it's two outs, Why are we using it now? And
then you lose one of those challenges that you could
possibly use in the ninth or eighth inny.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
See, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
If you're gonna go to the challenge system, I get it,
and it's it's crawl before you walk, walk before you run. God,
I think they do that before they do the full
automated I think, well, that's yeah. I think that's what
they're gonna do. I think they're gonna try this next year.
But if you're gonna do it like that, then why
don't you just go all in?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Right? Why don't you go all in? If you're gonna
do that, I have to tell you, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Out or safe on the kind of challenge system though,
because you gotta be strategic.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
They don't, by the way, because the players are not
a fan of the full on automated zone, and there's
it's at least split at this point for the ABS system.
It sounds as if pretty close to consensus that a
lot of the players and managers are not fans of
a fully automated zone. So this is the way of
the commissioner kind of meeting them in between.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but but here's not kind of like that, like
I said, because I think it's it's it brings some
some strategy into it because and you really, as if
you're a manager, you have to have that real conversation
with your players. Nobody can challenge before the fourth or
fifth inning or sixth inning, because you will get some
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guys that up there going, oh, that's a horrible call
and start tabbing their helmet in the first, second inning,
like we gotta save these we gotta save these two.
When it's it's tight in the seventh, eighth, ninth inning.
Nobody can use it. But you know there are always
gonna be those guys that go, oh, may I gotta
keep my average up. Let's challenge that I don't want
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to strike out. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
First of all, if you're gonna do that, and I
know all the players aren't in favor, but you ought
to go to the automated strike zone.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So when they brought replay into baseball, I know, initially,
because it's human nature, the umpires are probably you know,
they didn't want their call challenged, right, and they certainly
didn't want it overturned. I'm talking initially. Yeah, Now it's
part of the game. Everybody knows a guy calls you
out in the close play, he just looks at the dugout.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You want to challenge that? Not now, it's just that's
the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And to be fair, to be fair, these calls that
are being challenged are very close. There's rarely one that
is just so ridiculous. They are close. They could go
either way. Yeah, I would say ninety nine percent of
them are very close and could and you could understand
why the UMP called it a certain way.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Right, so it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But I'm thinking, now a guy behind the plate, if
somebody keeps challenge and they're right, that's not gonna go. Well,
it's one thing on the basis, it's another behind the plate. Yeah,
and we should talk more about that coming up. But
that's the thing though, Fred, real quick, that's the thing
that where they're gonna limit it. You can't just keep challenging, challenging, challenging.
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They're gonna limit you to three challenges. So you can't
be a team or and it's not the you can't
come from the dugout. It's got to be the battered
catcher of the picture. So you can't just keep going
it over and over and again. You only get so
many of them. All right, let's bring on now the
man that provided this incredible video that Rodney sent us
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above LA is his site. His name is Josh Furman,
and Josh, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Thank you. Fred.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So I told the story Josh about how when I
was doing the challenge, we got in touch Caledure basically
reached out to you and asked if I could use
your videos for the open. You gave us permission, we
gave you visual credit. Your stuff is as good as
any Hollywood movies shot and you're you're on the East
coast now, But why did you start doing that?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
I mean, I always loved photography, and I'm in the
real estate industry, so I used to get up in
a plane in helicopters and take pictures. And you know,
a couple of years back, when drone prices came down
and they got good enough to take some good pictures,
I tried it out and I just fell in love
with the droning.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And and Josh, it's I. I saw the and I
sent this to Fred and Kevin, our producer of the
latest one of Dodger Stadium and voiced over by Vincecully.
How did that come about? And why why Dodger Stadium?
Are you just ourshol Are you also a big sports
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fan that you wanted to do these iconic ballparks and
and then uh and has the have these incredible shots?
Because I got emotional, man watching your video of all
the different shots day and night of Dodger Stadium with
the voiceovers.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I mean I'm a huge Dodger fan.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I grew up a Dodger fan.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
My family goes back to Brooklyn, so you know, Dodger
Stadium is such a special place to me. And getting
to grow up in Los Angeles with Vin Scully is
just natural. And you know, when I ran across him
doing the Field of Dreams dialogue, I knew that would
be a perfect thing to put along with it. And
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you know it, it make me emotional getting to put
it together myself.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So we've got that video that was posted, Josh, you
put that together, right?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah, I put that all together all right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So talk about the video. We're gonna play Vin's voice.
Obviously people can't see the pictures, So talk about the video.
Why you picked it, what it shows and the play
Ben's voice.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
No, I actually got up probably about five in the
morning one day and I was going to shoot Dodger
Stadium and I was just really lucky. The lights were
on and it was just one of those beautiful southern
California days. So it's just me panning across. If you
notice at the beginning there's a full moon, and as
I pan across and get towards left field, over there
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you can see the sun rising. And I didn't really
have an opportunity to post that one before because it's
such a long shot, but with Finn's dialogue, it just
went along perfectly with it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Okay, So that's the visual in your mind, and this
was the narration under it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
April will come right. The one constant through all the
years Ray has been Baseball America rolled by like an
army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard,
rebuilt and erased again. But Baseball has marked the time,
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this field, this game, it's a part of our past.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Gray.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It reminds us of all that once was good and
could be good again. People will come, Ray, People will
most definitely come.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You can imagine the visual over that, Rodney, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, the visuals, it's unbelievable, unbelievable, Josh, did you you
know you mentioned, you know, the the capabilities of usage
and you use them.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Was this something that you you captured that was already
out there or was it something that you were able
to use your own drone footage? And what's the rules
and laws you know, in terms of how you shoot
that and how or if you can you know, put
drones up above Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
So yeah, I saw that myself. And as far as
the drone rules, it's really kind of spotty. It's from
one place to another what you can do. You're as
far as Dodger Stadium, you're not allowed to fly over
the stadium. So I'm actually pretty far back there and
using my zoom to capture all that. But you know it,
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you just kind of have to look up the rules
every place you're going, because one city to the next
might have different rules or one place of.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The next are you allowed to real quick, are you
allowed to to do drone footage during an actual game
or does it have to be in a non game event.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah, you're not allowed to ever do it in a
game or within a couple hours or after or before
the game, unless you know you're hired. Sometimes you'll see
on Fox or TBS or something they have some great
drone footage where they're going all over it, and you know,
I would love to be able to do something like
that one day, but for someone that's not hired for
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that specific event and you can't get to hear the
stadium when there's a game on.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
His name is Josh Furman. His on Instagram and is
above Los Angeles. You can follow him there. The thing
we're talking about is there and so many, so many
other great shots from around southern California. What do you
think the best one you have on there is, Josh.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Wow, that's a tough one. I mean, I I have
to go with the Dodger Stadium stuff. I mean, it's
just so close to my heart that it's my favorite
place to capture. And the way Dodger Stadium is with
Downtown in the background, it's just the perfect setut.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
All right, Well, he's got multiple shots of Dodger Stadium.
Crypto dot Com Arena is on there. I know that
Couk we stole it for our Open for the Challenge. Well,
thank you for that, Josh.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Uh, I think you have the Colosseum. You have everything.
So if you love LA and you love the great
venues and just magnificent shots, follow Josh Furman at above
Los Angeles. That's the guy. Hey man, our best of
your family. Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, thank you guys. You guys take care.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You want to give those Dodger tickets away. Let's do
it man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right as like six nine eighty seven, two five seventy.
We've got tickets to a Dodger game, Rodney. What numbers winning?
I like number four?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Fred.
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Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh yes, come on, come on, come on, come on,
come home. Hey, only a two hour show today, but
uh it's been good. Many thanks to our guy. But
NOOI it Benjamin who came on and always delivers. You
never know what's going to come out of his mouth,
and we didn't know it today, but always delivered. So
thanks you annoyed Rodney p Fred Rogan on a Friday.
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Come on, we don't.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Care, nah, but I'll tell you who does Victor in
La you did it. You called, You were the right caller.
You're going to see the Dodgers. Congratulations Victor, happy that
you have won the tickets. And by the way, if
you went down to Sketchers, our street team is there.
They gave away the ten pairs of Dodger tickets as
we promised, and if.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You did, we appreciate it. Right, and they're still there. Okay,
well that's even better.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I believe Norm Powell is still there. I believe you're
signing autographs.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Norm Powell's still there signing autographs. Great, great, great, We
love that. Thank you Norm Powell for showing up at
Sketchers and the new grand opening of that store and Torrents.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Hey, Rodney, you think Tyre's Halliburton has vaulted onto the
national stage now?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh, if he hadn't already, he certainly he certainly certainly
solidified that last night. Once again, once again he came
from behind, I mean Oklahoma City. For all intents and purposes,
that game was over, Fred, ninety seven percent of the game. Yeah,
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that game was over. I mean, it's what Indiana has
done all all season long, all postseason is you know,
the moment you think they're out of it, you count
them out, they're down fourteen to fifteen in the fourth quarter,
it's like, Okay, write it off, let's get ready for
the next game. They find a way to hang around.
And I was saying that last night during that watching
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that game, it's like, you're letting Indiana hang around. They're
hanging around. You know, it was always hovering around eight points,
nine points, ten points that Okase was leading by. But
they can never really kind of put it out of reach, right,
And the way Indiana has played all year long, with
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all of those guys and with Halliburton being the leader
of it, you got to put him away and they didn't,
and they let him hang around to get to a
point where all they needed was a few big shots.
And Indiana has shown that all throughout the playoffs, is
that they make big shots at big moments and Halliburton
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is the focal point of that. And we are we
are seeing, Look, this is a guy that a lot
of people don't know about. He is a superstar and
all star. He was on the you know the Olympic team,
and I think the big story of that is that
he didn't even play. He didn't even play in the Olympics.
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You know, he and Jason Tatum were the two guys
that didn't play but still got his gold medal. But
he is a superstar. And maybe it's because they live
in and play in Middle America and Indiana and okay,
see that not a whole lot of people notice him,
but he is a superstar. In clutch moment he comes
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through Fred, Yeah, that was if anybody has made the
most of their opportunity this postseason. Oh it's Cyre's Halliburton.
You know, it's the old line. The bell rings, when
you answer the bell? Can you answer the bell? And
he's answered the bell and Rodney, you're right. I mean,
he can play.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's terrifically talented, but he was sort of under the
radar because of where he played. And now when you
have a chance to see him, and I think the
thing that has been so dramatic is that he's doing
it when it counts. It's this is it, do or die,
and he does it for him he has reached a
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whole new stratosphere. I think as far as the NBA
and the way the nation views the Pacers and view
him and what will be interesting to see and we
don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I wonder what his jersey sales will be like next year.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know, here's the thing, as as we think in
sitting here and we're prisoners of the moment, I think
they will be fantastic in Indiana and maybe the surrounding states.
But nationally, I don't think it's going to move the
needle at all, not enough. No, I really don't. I
don't think it will. And maybe for a variety of
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different reasons. I know he's his his dad is more
famous than him, because his dad is so controversial and
gets in people's faces, and his dad has been kicked
out of arenas and told that he can only sit
in certain places.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
His dad is more vocal than he is.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And if you were telling me, you know, what are
the jersey sales of his dad, then I would say, oh, yeah,
it's going to go through the roof. But for Tyreees,
I don't know if it moves the needle in terms
of his jersey sales because number one, he plays in Indiana,
and number two he is not necessarily that big time
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flamboyant personality that we often gravitate to to make them
a superstar off the charts.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Also, NBA wise, did you see the Commissioner Adam Silver
at his news conference said Yeo, now now we're really
starting to explore expansion, the possibility of expansion. Here's the
dirty little secret. This is when they were going to
start to explore it.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
They knew it. They knew exactly what they're doing. Yeah,
and I'll bet you this. I'll bet you they know
the cities and I'll bet you they know at least
one of the ownership groups at least Will you take that?
Will you take that? Bet? Oh? Oh oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
When when we figure it out, they've they've they've known
it for six eight months. They've already know. Yeah, they
already know they already they already know who's who's going
to be the ownership group in Vegas. They already know
what the next city is going to be. They already
know all of those things. It's already in motion.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So when Adam Silver said, look, we haven't taken anything
very seriously, and to be honest, we didn't want to
start talking to people. We've had a lot of interest,
but we're not gonna talk to anybody because we don't
want anyone to have an unfair advantage in this process. Yeah,
that's what he said. They already know, they already know
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the cities. I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess the city.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yes, guess it from me. I'm gonna say Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's a gibbet, yep. I'm gonna say Seattle. Gotta go
back to Seattle. Oh yeah, right, gotta go back to Seattle.
Right if they do too. I think those are the
two we're anywhere else, right, because those are two obvious
cities that they would well, let's start thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where would they go? What would be other good markets
for them? There's always the standard.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Nashville, Yeah, Nashville, but it's Memphis too close in Tennessee
already that do they need another another team in Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's a fair question. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know where else would you put one an
NBA team? Well, they already have one there, they got
one there. Can Chicago take two teams? You know they
got the Cubs and the White Sox. Can Can they
take two NBA teams in Chicago? You know, big cities
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do that. I mean, look at New York.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The next the NETS is San Diego an option. I
don't know. I don't know if the draw is going
to be there in San Diego. I think that's the problem,
you know, I don't think. I don't know if they'll
draw enough. Tampa Bay. Can Tampa Bay hold a city
a team. You know, they expanded with hockey in Tampa
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Bay and it seems to have worked out. But can
it handle an NBA franchise when they've got Orlando there
and they've got Miami.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I don't know if three teams in Florida really works.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
John.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
When you break it down, then you have to think, okay, internationally,
would Vancouver be a sight again?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Doubt it? Montreal, doubt it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Vancouver didn't really work even though you thought Vancouver would
be a great city or NBA franchise, but it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Didn't work.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't think they're putting a team in Mexico City
Montreal work, you know, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Because you got to look at Toronto.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is Toronto really working to the level that we need
to add another one in Canada?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Toronto's fine, Montrealo's French Canadian, So I think it'd be
I don't know if it would work as well there.
You know what, Well, then we've solved it. It's got
to be Seattle in Vegas. Where else they gonna put it?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Nothing for Nashville. You don't think Albert, Well, Nashville. Nashville
was the one, didn't I say Nashville? No, Yeah, you
said Nashville. Okay, I missed it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah you said Nashville. But we talked about Memphis is
already there, and can Tennessee hold to two NBA franchises?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, I you know what, See, here's something they're gonna
look at too. They're gonna look at market size and
potential growth in those markets. Louisville, I don't know if
Louisville can do it. Cincinnati Louisville.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's the same metropolitan kind of area, and Cincinnati's on
the other side of the border of Louisville.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's you know, it's kind of a you know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Okay, three cities, which two will grow more? Seattle, Vegas, Nashville.
There are three, which ones will grow most? Give me
two Seattle and Vegas and that's where they'll go.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That was my thought.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Those are the only three that I think are probably
in consideration at this point. And Seattle makes the most
sense of any of them because you know, there's a
built in fan base that's been hungry for a franchise
for twenty years, however long it's been since Oklahoma City left.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they're not gonna put one in Cincinnati.
Does Buffalo work? No? Hell?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Even the bills we're talking about leaving for Toronto, you
know a few years ago, I don't know starting a
franchise in a smaller media market these days.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
To correct me if I'm wrong for it.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
If that's the move it, you know, it's not gonna
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, they've been there before and not done that. You know.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And when you say that, because the Nationals moved from
Montreal and baseball, you don't ever see sports going back
to Montreal, least American sports going back to Montreal.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Do you okay?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Two hour show for us today, So we'll come back
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh yes, back to wrap it up on a Friday
two hour show today and uh, we're hoping that you
have a fantastic weekend. Make sure you're being safe out there.
And we have any more tickets for it any more tickets.
(32:11):
Tickets are being given away every everywhere on our show.
You know what, we gave way tickets today on our show.
Their tickets get being given away at Sketchers.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Everywhere. We're just given today.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Should we give more tickets away when we have them,
we will exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I know, I did, I did.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
We just gave us away today already. But thanks everybody
that hung out at Sketchers too. That's very cool. A
lot of winners down there absolutely. Justin Robleski and Sunny
Gray to night in Saint Louis. I love that ballpark
village which is right around the stadium.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Saint Louis is a baseball town and people that I
don't know because it's Middle America, but Saint Louis and
it's passion fan base is as good as any baseball
town in the country. You know, you think about the Dodgers, obviously,
you think about the Red Sox, the Cubs, the Yankees.
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Saint Louis is right there in the top five of
baseball towns that people that and fan bases that absolutely
loved their baseball and loved their team.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Saint Louis is one of those.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'll tell you what's interesting about this year is our
Cardinals team. Nolan Aernato is still there. They're coming back.
They're rolling right now, and they're making a run.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Obviously the Cubs are on fire, but Saint Louis is
right there with him. But yeah, Nolan Ornado, he ain't done.
He ain't done for itt.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And for a guy that they openly said during spring training, openly,
it wasn't even camouflaged. You know, I think we're going
in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
They did well. I think, you know, hey, we have.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Entertained offers what they said. Everything he's done for us,
we don't have the words for. But sometimes it's time
to go to a different direction. Yeah, and he's still
standing there.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, I will say in their defense, they did trade
him to Houston and he vetoed it, which he had.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A lot of power to do, so I were willing
to trade him, that's the thing, correct, And he's killing
it for him now.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well, I think it's hitting like two twenty eight. He's
playing okay, but the.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Last the last month, he is he's been bast three weeks.
He's been really good for them.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
And now and look, the team itself has been playing great.
Like you guys mentioned, everybody thought that they were going
to full on rebuilt this year.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, well that would have done it for their manager,
Carlos Marmal I think his name is. Yeah, he would
have been gone if they had struggled this year because
they don't put up with that in Saint Louis.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Nobody does nowadays. Well that's fair. You know, they fire
people left and right, especially in the NBA. I just
read that the Necks are trying to get permission to
talk to Jason Kidd.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, he's which means you've got to believe that
that's this whole Thibotu thing was in the works before this.
The playoffs even started. They had their mind made up
that they were going to get rid of him. They
wanted to get rid of him, and they were just
going to ride it out. They didn't want to go
through a they didn't want to do a Mike Malone
situation where we fire him right before the playoffs and
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let's let him ride out the playoffs. But I think
this was a decision that was made before before the
playoffs even started, before the end of the season, and
which is a shame. Which is a shame because what
happens if they would have made it to the finals
they've been playing right now, do you still fire him?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Because you know what if they go to the if
they had gone to the finals and won, he survived.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
If they don't win, though they did go to the
finals and they don't win, got rid of him, still
still got rid of him? Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
The only thing that would have saved him was winning
the NBA title, right.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Right, which is crazy. This is crazy, which is you know,
you look at that and look, we don't always know
the backstories or the internal workings of an organization. But
the Mike Malone situation in Denver that was brewing nobody
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knew it was brewing unless you were inside those doors
and those walls. But they were gonna get rid of
him regardless, and the GM and same thing with Thibodeau barring,
like you said, Fred barring them winning a title.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
He was gone. He was gone.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But you think that if he's gone, they would have
had some pert, some guy in place ready to take
his spot. And here we finding out that they're they're
trying to get permission to talk to Jason Kidd, and
you gotta believe Mike Malone is in that mix too,
But they didn't have a guarantee to take over for tips,
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which is as Ned Colletti always said, you better have
somebody walking in the door right afterwards, but they didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
They did. Yeah, or you want this guy out of
here so badly, you'll figure it out later. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Like how someone asked Rick Patino last night, who of
course is just up the hall at Saint John's in
the same building, if he will come back to the
NBA coach of the next and he basically said, hell no,
I ain't going there said the expectation is to win
a championship, but if not, you're out a little unrealistic,
I think considering where they are right now.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And by the way, frand before they people give you
too much crap on social media. Ali Marmal is the
manager of the Cardinal What I call him Carlos Marmo
who was a former player.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh okay, Olli Marmle, Ollie Marmo, all right, I called
him Carlos.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You did. That's his brother.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh gotcha, Yeah, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
And uh, Rodney, you have a great weekend. We do it.
Mon
All we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy LA Sports are thanks to the big Man
Benoit Benjamin Rodney for hanging out.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
No, absolutely, he was gracious enough to hang out Beanoit
is one Fred and you've known it for a long
long time. But he is he is real. There's no
pulling punches and he's he's absolutely hilarious. But there you know,
there's no filter when it comes to Benoit. He is
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going to say what's on the top of his head
and mind and let you know about it. And it
may be right wrong or whatever, but but you got
you gotta love the fact that he just says it
like it is for him and it may not be
the way it is, but he says it like the
way it is in Benoit's world.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Uh, if you want information on the movie at Panoit
Movie on your socials at Banoit Movie on your Socials.
We are giving away Dodger tickets, not right now, but
coming soon because we're only on for two hours today
and a couple of minutes. Josh Furman, who does a
site called above La. He takes the most spectacular videos.
But as a matter of fact, when I was doing
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the challenge. I saw his stuff on Instagram and I
called them because Channel four never could take the kind
of videos he could from the sky, and I asked
hif we could use his videos and give him credit,
and he said sure. So that's how we built the
challenge open when it was flying over then Staples Center,
all these nighttime shots and stuff, that was all his video.
(01:32):
And the other day, Rodney, you sent something, right, it
was his video and it was Vin scully narration underneath it.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It was incredib believable. It was incredible. It was just
the love of Dodger Stadium and the shots were of
Dodger Stadium from different viewpoints with narrations from Vin Scully
over the years of all the major moments in Dodger
history and just I mean from daytime to night time.
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But the scenery and the view when you really look
at it and look at it from above, meaning Dodger
Stadium from above, it is one of the most iconic
beautiful settings in all of sports and sports arenas. So
it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I had to share that with you guys because I
got emotional when I was looking at it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was great. I think Kevin's got some of it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
We'll run it when Josh comes on, but he's going
to be here at about one fifteen so we can
talk about it, all right. So the Dodgers are in
Saint Louis tonight. We know that, we talked about it
last hour. Michael Confordo got a hit finally, knock going
to run and it was a big one. Tanner Scott
got a save and the world is right once again
for the Dodgers. But as you have watched games this year,
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and it's something we talk about every season, and every season,
you say, oh, no, it couldn't get any worse. Balls
and strikes, Balls and strikes, Angel Hernandez. They just retired him.
Were remember correctly one day, I'm retiring. No, that means
you've been retired. Yeah, and you have the choice in
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the middle of the season, wasn't it right, Yeah? Yeah,
nobody says in the middle of the well, that's it
for me. I'm retiring now. God forbid. He's not sick,
and no one ever said that. But he was gone.
So you think, wow, that'll clean things up.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not so much. Not so much. Calling balls and strikes
is difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
There are games this year that I have seen where
it has been so bad it defies logic. It just
defies logic. You can't believe the guy missed a call
like that. So Rob Manfred says baseball is going to
propose automated ball strike challenge system for use at the
big league level, And there we go, and he's going
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to submit it during the off season. That's another step
closer to you know what's coming, and that would be
the automated strike zone. So I think after next season,
and Rodney Kevin correct me if I'm wrong, that is
when the player's contract is up.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It is correct, all right, I'm right, ye, all.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Right, So after the twenty sixth season, yes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, in that negotiation, I will bet you any amount
of money they try to put the automatic strike zone
in permanently. I think that'll be one of the bargaining
points in the negotiation with the players. The automatic stakes,
no doubt, no doubt. I mean it's headed that way.
They tested it in spring training this past year. You know,
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despite my.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Traditional point of view and not liking it so much,
technology has gotten to the point where we've got to
utilize it and utilize it to the best. And if
they do it and incorporate it the right way. I
think it works. They did it where the with the
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hitter and the catcher and the pitcher were the only
ones that could dispute a call in spring training. I
don't know how it goes forward, but it's coming because
we saw even in the Dodger Mets game this past weekend,
there were some calls Freddy that were and against the Dodgers.
(05:18):
I mean yeah, I was like, thank god I was
a Dodger fan because it was bad. Edwin Diaz through
like I think three pitches that were basically almost right
down the middle and they called they were called balls,
and You're like, ooh ooh, this is not good. This
is not good. So if we have the capabilities, then
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you got to start to utilize it. So I'm coming
around to your side a little bit, fred on this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Don't you remember when we first talked about the challenge system. Yeah,
they were talking about using it, and I remember we
were trying to figure out, you know, how were they
going to challenge it. And you sat there and here's
the pitch and go challenge. You would just yell out
the challenge if you had a challenge challenge.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, challenge.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think about that sometimes and I laugh when you
did that challenge. Just people yell and challenge challenge it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh no, no, but you know it's been how they
regulated because it's obviously going to be regulated a certain way.
But it's going to eliminate all of that, right, so
it's going to be called and in the umpire. I mean,
the mechanics of it is something that we're going to
figure out as we go along, whether it's just automatically
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and real time they'll say it's a strike and the
umpire will signal, because there's any think a lot of
people still believe that would Is that eliminate the umpire
behind the plate? No, it doesn't. There's always going to
be an umpire behind behind the plate. He's going to
also be able because he's got to be there to
call somebody out at home plate if there's a play.
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It's not going to eliminate him. And then how quickly
are you going to get the call if it's a
ball or strike? And is there going to be a delay?
And I think with the way it is now with technology,
it'll be instantaneously so you can you can see it.
The pitch comes it's a striker ball, you'll know as
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soon as if the umpire was calling it a ball
or strike. So are you saying that's what the automated
strike zone or the challenge the automatic strike zone, That's
what I'm saying with okay, but with the challenge part
of it right now, the challenge part of it is
going to be the crazy part. That's going to be
the interesting part.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
In spring training, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You tap your helmet, Yeah, you tap your helmet. And
you see there were recently, like I think a week
ago or somewhere, somebody got tossed. Somebody got tossed for
tapping their helmet and mocking the umpire. He tapped his
helmet the hit or tapped his helmet and the umpires
what what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You're going? I mean he tapped his helmet. Boom, go out,
You're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, because I think he complained earlier in that count
or in that bat about a call that he had made.
It's like, what are you doing. It's a terrible call.
That balls out or that ball's low. And then when
he got wrung up, he tapped his helmet as if
they could go to replay, which is not a you know,
it's not happening today. He tapped his helmet and the
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umpire was like, okay, you're out, get out of here.
They just ran them immediately. But I love it though.
I loved that he tapped his helmet because it was
it was not a strike. It was not a strike.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
If you can use that challenge system, and you know,
they have to figure out and I'm trying to remember
what they were talking about in the past, you get
like one a game or two a game or something.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I think it was three. I think three, okay, But
you know, if you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Use them all up, and once you use them, do
you lose them? Or if you use them in your right.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Do you keep them. That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know
the protocol of that. But the question was, if you're
a hitter and it's in the second inning and it's
two outs and nobody on and there's a questionable call,
and you start using that tap tap and a helmet,
you know your team is gonna go, what.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Are you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's the second innie and there's nobody on base and
it's two outs, Why are we using it now? And
then you lose one of those challenges that you could
possibly use in the ninth or eighth inny.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
See, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
If you're gonna go to the challenge system, I get it,
and it's it's crawl before you walk, walk before you run. God,
I think they do that before they do the full
automated I think, well, that's yeah. I think that's what
they're gonna do. I think they're gonna try this next year.
But if you're gonna do it like that, then why
don't you just go all in?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Right? Why don't you go all in? If you're gonna
do that, I have to tell you, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Out or safe on the kind of challenge system though,
because you gotta be strategic.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
They don't, by the way, because the players are not
a fan of the full on automated zone, and there's
it's at least split at this point for the ABS system.
It sounds as if pretty close to consensus that a
lot of the players and managers are not fans of
a fully automated zone. So this is the way of
the commissioner kind of meeting them in between.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but but here's not kind of like that, like
I said, because I think it's it's it brings some
some strategy into it because and you really, as if
you're a manager, you have to have that real conversation
with your players. Nobody can challenge before the fourth or
fifth inning or sixth inning, because you will get some
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guys that up there going, oh, that's a horrible call
and start tabbing their helmet in the first, second inning,
like we gotta save these we gotta save these two.
When it's it's tight in the seventh, eighth, ninth inning.
Nobody can use it. But you know there are always
gonna be those guys that go, oh, may I gotta
keep my average up. Let's challenge that I don't want
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to strike out. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
First of all, if you're gonna do that, and I
know all the players aren't in favor, but you ought
to go to the automated strike zone.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So when they brought replay into baseball, I know, initially,
because it's human nature, the umpires are probably you know,
they didn't want their call challenged, right, and they certainly
didn't want it overturned. I'm talking initially. Yeah, Now it's
part of the game. Everybody knows a guy calls you
out in the close play, he just looks at the dugout.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You want to challenge that? Not now, it's just that's
the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And to be fair, to be fair, these calls that
are being challenged are very close. There's rarely one that
is just so ridiculous. They are close. They could go
either way. Yeah, I would say ninety nine percent of
them are very close and could and you could understand
why the UMP called it a certain way.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Right, so it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But I'm thinking, now a guy behind the plate, if
somebody keeps challenge and they're right, that's not gonna go. Well,
it's one thing on the basis, it's another behind the plate. Yeah,
and we should talk more about that coming up. But
that's the thing though, Fred, real quick, that's the thing
that where they're gonna limit it. You can't just keep challenging, challenging, challenging.
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They're gonna limit you to three challenges. So you can't
be a team or and it's not the you can't
come from the dugout. It's got to be the battered
catcher of the picture. So you can't just keep going
it over and over and again. You only get so
many of them. All right, let's bring on now the
man that provided this incredible video that Rodney sent us
(12:38):
above LA is his site. His name is Josh Furman,
and Josh, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Thank you. Fred.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So I told the story Josh about how when I
was doing the challenge, we got in touch Caledure basically
reached out to you and asked if I could use
your videos for the open. You gave us permission, we
gave you visual credit. Your stuff is as good as
any Hollywood movies shot and you're you're on the East
coast now, But why did you start doing that?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
I mean, I always loved photography, and I'm in the
real estate industry, so I used to get up in
a plane in helicopters and take pictures. And you know,
a couple of years back, when drone prices came down
and they got good enough to take some good pictures,
I tried it out and I just fell in love
with the droning.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And and Josh, it's I. I saw the and I
sent this to Fred and Kevin, our producer of the
latest one of Dodger Stadium and voiced over by Vincecully.
How did that come about? And why why Dodger Stadium?
Are you just ourshol Are you also a big sports
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fan that you wanted to do these iconic ballparks and
and then uh and has the have these incredible shots?
Because I got emotional, man watching your video of all
the different shots day and night of Dodger Stadium with
the voiceovers.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I mean I'm a huge Dodger fan.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I grew up a Dodger fan.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
My family goes back to Brooklyn, so you know, Dodger
Stadium is such a special place to me. And getting
to grow up in Los Angeles with Vin Scully is
just natural. And you know, when I ran across him
doing the Field of Dreams dialogue, I knew that would
be a perfect thing to put along with it. And
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you know it, it make me emotional getting to put
it together myself.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So we've got that video that was posted, Josh, you
put that together, right?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah, I put that all together all right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So talk about the video. We're gonna play Vin's voice.
Obviously people can't see the pictures, So talk about the video.
Why you picked it, what it shows and the play
Ben's voice.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
No, I actually got up probably about five in the
morning one day and I was going to shoot Dodger
Stadium and I was just really lucky. The lights were
on and it was just one of those beautiful southern
California days. So it's just me panning across. If you
notice at the beginning there's a full moon, and as
I pan across and get towards left field, over there
(15:28):
you can see the sun rising. And I didn't really
have an opportunity to post that one before because it's
such a long shot, but with Finn's dialogue, it just
went along perfectly with it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Okay, So that's the visual in your mind, and this
was the narration under it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
April will come right. The one constant through all the
years Ray has been Baseball America rolled by like an
army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard,
rebuilt and erased again. But Baseball has marked the time,
(16:15):
this field, this game, it's a part of our past.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Gray.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It reminds us of all that once was good and
could be good again. People will come, Ray, People will
most definitely come.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You can imagine the visual over that, Rodney, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, the visuals, it's unbelievable, unbelievable, Josh, did you you
know you mentioned, you know, the the capabilities of usage
and you use them.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Was this something that you you captured that was already
out there or was it something that you were able
to use your own drone footage? And what's the rules
and laws you know, in terms of how you shoot
that and how or if you can you know, put
drones up above Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
So yeah, I saw that myself. And as far as
the drone rules, it's really kind of spotty. It's from
one place to another what you can do. You're as
far as Dodger Stadium, you're not allowed to fly over
the stadium. So I'm actually pretty far back there and
using my zoom to capture all that. But you know it,
(17:46):
you just kind of have to look up the rules
every place you're going, because one city to the next
might have different rules or one place of.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The next are you allowed to real quick, are you
allowed to to do drone footage during an actual game
or does it have to be in a non game event.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah, you're not allowed to ever do it in a
game or within a couple hours or after or before
the game, unless you know you're hired. Sometimes you'll see
on Fox or TBS or something they have some great
drone footage where they're going all over it, and you know,
I would love to be able to do something like
that one day, but for someone that's not hired for
(18:27):
that specific event and you can't get to hear the
stadium when there's a game on.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
His name is Josh Furman. His on Instagram and is
above Los Angeles. You can follow him there. The thing
we're talking about is there and so many, so many
other great shots from around southern California. What do you
think the best one you have on there is, Josh.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Wow, that's a tough one. I mean, I I have
to go with the Dodger Stadium stuff. I mean, it's
just so close to my heart that it's my favorite
place to capture. And the way Dodger Stadium is with
Downtown in the background, it's just the perfect setut.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
All right, Well, he's got multiple shots of Dodger Stadium.
Crypto dot Com Arena is on there. I know that
Couk we stole it for our Open for the Challenge. Well,
thank you for that, Josh.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Uh, I think you have the Colosseum. You have everything.
So if you love LA and you love the great
venues and just magnificent shots, follow Josh Furman at above
Los Angeles. That's the guy. Hey man, our best of
your family. Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, thank you guys. You guys take care.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You want to give those Dodger tickets away. Let's do
it man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right as like six nine eighty seven, two five seventy.
We've got tickets to a Dodger game, Rodney. What numbers winning?
I like number four?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Fred.
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Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh yes, come on, come on, come on, come on,
come home. Hey, only a two hour show today, but
uh it's been good. Many thanks to our guy. But
NOOI it Benjamin who came on and always delivers. You
never know what's going to come out of his mouth,
and we didn't know it today, but always delivered. So
thanks you annoyed Rodney p Fred Rogan on a Friday.
(20:28):
Come on, we don't.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Care, nah, but I'll tell you who does Victor in
La you did it. You called, You were the right caller.
You're going to see the Dodgers. Congratulations Victor, happy that
you have won the tickets. And by the way, if
you went down to Sketchers, our street team is there.
They gave away the ten pairs of Dodger tickets as
we promised, and if.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You did, we appreciate it. Right, and they're still there. Okay,
well that's even better.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I believe Norm Powell is still there. I believe you're
signing autographs.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Norm Powell's still there signing autographs. Great, great, great, We
love that. Thank you Norm Powell for showing up at
Sketchers and the new grand opening of that store and Torrents.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Hey, Rodney, you think Tyre's Halliburton has vaulted onto the
national stage now?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh, if he hadn't already, he certainly he certainly certainly
solidified that last night. Once again, once again he came
from behind, I mean Oklahoma City. For all intents and purposes,
that game was over, Fred, ninety seven percent of the game. Yeah,
(21:37):
that game was over. I mean, it's what Indiana has
done all all season long, all postseason is you know,
the moment you think they're out of it, you count
them out, they're down fourteen to fifteen in the fourth quarter,
it's like, Okay, write it off, let's get ready for
the next game. They find a way to hang around.
And I was saying that last night during that watching
(21:59):
that game, it's like, you're letting Indiana hang around. They're
hanging around. You know, it was always hovering around eight points,
nine points, ten points that Okase was leading by. But
they can never really kind of put it out of reach, right,
And the way Indiana has played all year long, with
(22:22):
all of those guys and with Halliburton being the leader
of it, you got to put him away and they didn't,
and they let him hang around to get to a
point where all they needed was a few big shots.
And Indiana has shown that all throughout the playoffs, is
that they make big shots at big moments and Halliburton
(22:42):
is the focal point of that. And we are we
are seeing, Look, this is a guy that a lot
of people don't know about. He is a superstar and
all star. He was on the you know the Olympic team,
and I think the big story of that is that
he didn't even play. He didn't even play in the Olympics.
(23:02):
You know, he and Jason Tatum were the two guys
that didn't play but still got his gold medal. But
he is a superstar. And maybe it's because they live
in and play in Middle America and Indiana and okay,
see that not a whole lot of people notice him,
but he is a superstar. In clutch moment he comes
(23:24):
through Fred, Yeah, that was if anybody has made the
most of their opportunity this postseason. Oh it's Cyre's Halliburton.
You know, it's the old line. The bell rings, when
you answer the bell? Can you answer the bell? And
he's answered the bell and Rodney, you're right. I mean,
he can play.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's terrifically talented, but he was sort of under the
radar because of where he played. And now when you
have a chance to see him, and I think the
thing that has been so dramatic is that he's doing
it when it counts. It's this is it, do or die,
and he does it for him he has reached a
(24:08):
whole new stratosphere. I think as far as the NBA
and the way the nation views the Pacers and view
him and what will be interesting to see and we
don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I wonder what his jersey sales will be like next year.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know, here's the thing, as as we think in
sitting here and we're prisoners of the moment, I think
they will be fantastic in Indiana and maybe the surrounding states.
But nationally, I don't think it's going to move the
needle at all, not enough. No, I really don't. I
don't think it will. And maybe for a variety of
(24:52):
different reasons. I know he's his his dad is more
famous than him, because his dad is so controversial and
gets in people's faces, and his dad has been kicked
out of arenas and told that he can only sit
in certain places.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
His dad is more vocal than he is.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And if you were telling me, you know, what are
the jersey sales of his dad, then I would say, oh, yeah,
it's going to go through the roof. But for Tyreees,
I don't know if it moves the needle in terms
of his jersey sales because number one, he plays in Indiana,
and number two he is not necessarily that big time
(25:32):
flamboyant personality that we often gravitate to to make them
a superstar off the charts.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Also, NBA wise, did you see the Commissioner Adam Silver
at his news conference said Yeo, now now we're really
starting to explore expansion, the possibility of expansion. Here's the
dirty little secret. This is when they were going to
start to explore it.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
They knew it. They knew exactly what they're doing. Yeah,
and I'll bet you this. I'll bet you they know
the cities and I'll bet you they know at least
one of the ownership groups at least Will you take that?
Will you take that? Bet? Oh? Oh oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
When when we figure it out, they've they've they've known
it for six eight months. They've already know. Yeah, they
already know they already they already know who's who's going
to be the ownership group in Vegas. They already know
what the next city is going to be. They already
know all of those things. It's already in motion.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So when Adam Silver said, look, we haven't taken anything
very seriously, and to be honest, we didn't want to
start talking to people. We've had a lot of interest,
but we're not gonna talk to anybody because we don't
want anyone to have an unfair advantage in this process. Yeah,
that's what he said. They already know, they already know
(26:54):
the cities. I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess the city.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yes, guess it from me. I'm gonna say Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's a gibbet, yep. I'm gonna say Seattle. Gotta go
back to Seattle. Oh yeah, right, gotta go back to Seattle.
Right if they do too. I think those are the
two we're anywhere else, right, because those are two obvious
cities that they would well, let's start thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where would they go? What would be other good markets
for them? There's always the standard.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Nashville, Yeah, Nashville, but it's Memphis too close in Tennessee
already that do they need another another team in Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's a fair question. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know where else would you put one an
NBA team? Well, they already have one there, they got
one there. Can Chicago take two teams? You know they
got the Cubs and the White Sox. Can Can they
take two NBA teams in Chicago? You know, big cities
(28:01):
do that. I mean, look at New York.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The next the NETS is San Diego an option. I
don't know. I don't know if the draw is going
to be there in San Diego. I think that's the problem,
you know, I don't think. I don't know if they'll
draw enough. Tampa Bay. Can Tampa Bay hold a city
a team. You know, they expanded with hockey in Tampa
(28:28):
Bay and it seems to have worked out. But can
it handle an NBA franchise when they've got Orlando there
and they've got Miami.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I don't know if three teams in Florida really works.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
John.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
When you break it down, then you have to think, okay, internationally,
would Vancouver be a sight again?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Doubt it? Montreal, doubt it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Vancouver didn't really work even though you thought Vancouver would
be a great city or NBA franchise, but it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Didn't work.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't think they're putting a team in Mexico City
Montreal work, you know, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Because you got to look at Toronto.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is Toronto really working to the level that we need
to add another one in Canada?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Toronto's fine, Montrealo's French Canadian, So I think it'd be
I don't know if it would work as well there.
You know what, Well, then we've solved it. It's got
to be Seattle in Vegas. Where else they gonna put it?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Nothing for Nashville. You don't think Albert, Well, Nashville. Nashville
was the one, didn't I say Nashville? No, Yeah, you
said Nashville. Okay, I missed it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah you said Nashville. But we talked about Memphis is
already there, and can Tennessee hold to two NBA franchises?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, I you know what, See, here's something they're gonna
look at too. They're gonna look at market size and
potential growth in those markets. Louisville, I don't know if
Louisville can do it. Cincinnati Louisville.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's the same metropolitan kind of area, and Cincinnati's on
the other side of the border of Louisville.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's you know, it's kind of a you know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Okay, three cities, which two will grow more? Seattle, Vegas, Nashville.
There are three, which ones will grow most? Give me
two Seattle and Vegas and that's where they'll go.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
That was my thought.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Those are the only three that I think are probably
in consideration at this point. And Seattle makes the most
sense of any of them because you know, there's a
built in fan base that's been hungry for a franchise
for twenty years, however long it's been since Oklahoma City left.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they're not gonna put one in Cincinnati.
Does Buffalo work? No? Hell?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Even the bills we're talking about leaving for Toronto, you
know a few years ago, I don't know starting a
franchise in a smaller media market these days.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
To correct me if I'm wrong for it.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
If that's the move it, you know, it's not gonna
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, they've been there before and not done that. You know.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And when you say that, because the Nationals moved from
Montreal and baseball, you don't ever see sports going back
to Montreal, least American sports going back to Montreal.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Do you okay?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Two hour show for us today, So we'll come back
and wrap it up and send it over to Petrosen money.
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh yes, back to wrap it up on a Friday
two hour show today and uh, we're hoping that you
have a fantastic weekend. Make sure you're being safe out there.
And we have any more tickets for it any more tickets.
(32:11):
Tickets are being given away every everywhere on our show.
You know what, we gave way tickets today on our show.
Their tickets get being given away at Sketchers.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Everywhere. We're just given today.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Should we give more tickets away when we have them,
we will exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I know, I did, I did.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
We just gave us away today already. But thanks everybody
that hung out at Sketchers too. That's very cool. A
lot of winners down there absolutely. Justin Robleski and Sunny
Gray to night in Saint Louis. I love that ballpark
village which is right around the stadium.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Saint Louis is a baseball town and people that I
don't know because it's Middle America, but Saint Louis and
it's passion fan base is as good as any baseball
town in the country. You know, you think about the Dodgers, obviously,
you think about the Red Sox, the Cubs, the Yankees.
(33:15):
Saint Louis is right there in the top five of
baseball towns that people that and fan bases that absolutely
loved their baseball and loved their team.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Saint Louis is one of those.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'll tell you what's interesting about this year is our
Cardinals team. Nolan Aernato is still there. They're coming back.
They're rolling right now, and they're making a run.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Obviously the Cubs are on fire, but Saint Louis is
right there with him. But yeah, Nolan Ornado, he ain't done.
He ain't done for itt.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And for a guy that they openly said during spring training, openly,
it wasn't even camouflaged. You know, I think we're going
in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
They did well. I think, you know, hey, we have.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Entertained offers what they said. Everything he's done for us,
we don't have the words for. But sometimes it's time
to go to a different direction. Yeah, and he's still
standing there.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, I will say in their defense, they did trade
him to Houston and he vetoed it, which he had.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
A lot of power to do, so I were willing
to trade him, that's the thing, correct, And he's killing
it for him now.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well, I think it's hitting like two twenty eight. He's
playing okay, but the.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Last the last month, he is he's been bast three weeks.
He's been really good for them.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
And now and look, the team itself has been playing great.
Like you guys mentioned, everybody thought that they were going
to full on rebuilt this year.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, well that would have done it for their manager,
Carlos Marmal I think his name is. Yeah, he would
have been gone if they had struggled this year because
they don't put up with that in Saint Louis.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Nobody does nowadays. Well that's fair. You know, they fire
people left and right, especially in the NBA. I just
read that the Necks are trying to get permission to
talk to Jason Kidd.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, he's which means you've got to believe that
that's this whole Thibotu thing was in the works before this.
The playoffs even started. They had their mind made up
that they were going to get rid of him. They
wanted to get rid of him, and they were just
going to ride it out. They didn't want to go
through a they didn't want to do a Mike Malone
situation where we fire him right before the playoffs and
(35:20):
let's let him ride out the playoffs. But I think
this was a decision that was made before before the
playoffs even started, before the end of the season, and
which is a shame. Which is a shame because what
happens if they would have made it to the finals
they've been playing right now, do you still fire him?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Because you know what if they go to the if
they had gone to the finals and won, he survived.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
If they don't win, though they did go to the
finals and they don't win, got rid of him, still
still got rid of him? Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
The only thing that would have saved him was winning
the NBA title, right.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Right, which is crazy. This is crazy, which is you know,
you look at that and look, we don't always know
the backstories or the internal workings of an organization. But
the Mike Malone situation in Denver that was brewing nobody
(36:19):
knew it was brewing unless you were inside those doors
and those walls. But they were gonna get rid of
him regardless, and the GM and same thing with Thibodeau barring,
like you said, Fred barring them winning a title.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
He was gone. He was gone.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But you think that if he's gone, they would have
had some pert, some guy in place ready to take
his spot. And here we finding out that they're they're
trying to get permission to talk to Jason Kidd, and
you gotta believe Mike Malone is in that mix too,
But they didn't have a guarantee to take over for tips,
(36:58):
which is as Ned Colletti always said, you better have
somebody walking in the door right afterwards, but they didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
They did. Yeah, or you want this guy out of
here so badly, you'll figure it out later. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Like how someone asked Rick Patino last night, who of
course is just up the hall at Saint John's in
the same building, if he will come back to the
NBA coach of the next and he basically said, hell no,
I ain't going there said the expectation is to win
a championship, but if not, you're out a little unrealistic,
I think considering where they are right now.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And by the way, frand before they people give you
too much crap on social media. Ali Marmal is the
manager of the Cardinal What I call him Carlos Marmo
who was a former player.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh okay, Olli Marmle, Ollie Marmo, all right, I called
him Carlos.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You did. That's his brother.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh gotcha, Yeah, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
And uh, Rodney, you have a great weekend. We do it.
Mon
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