July 10, 2025 • 42 mins
Its Lit! makes its return for one day only. The NFL and the players association are in cahoots - and the players reall can't do anything about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rogan Rodney and five seventy La Sports, No Fred, no Rodney,
it's Jonas knocks and it's mister class act himself, the
one and only Ben Mallor keeping classy Jonas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So I just want to he know, Ronnie's here and
Kevin's obviously. I mean, they're the meat and potatoes of
the show. Yeah, these put together, they're the backbone of
the Rogan and Rodney show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Without them, we would sound awful. Not that we sound great,
but without them, we would sound especially awful without this
Thursday afternoon, well.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Without Ronnie filtering our voices, because we actually have very
high pitched voices, but we have filters, so we sound
somewhat normal.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think, Yeah, he makes us. He makes us sound good.
That's what's most important.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
By the way, you can look good with a pair
of Dodger tickets that we will be giving away coming
up later on Dodgers Cardinals on August firth or August fourth.
We're gonna be giving that away here at some point
throughout the course of the show. So if you want
to go see the and if you want to see
and be sort of the spark that ignites the turnaround
(01:06):
and the ending of the losing streak for the La Dodgers.
You can do that just by listening here and we'll
give out the caller number later on on the show.
And you can also, by the way, listen to this
show as always on the iHeartRadio app as well too.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Always streaming. You never missed the show. I love the
iHeart actually have it on a phone. I'm not I
do that promo every night, but I actually have the
iHeartRadio app on my phone. Actually, great assumer of it.
It is really good. Like they nailed it. They got
it right on that. Now, as far as those Dodger tickets,
if the team continues to lose before August fourth, will
the listener that wins the tickets be able to play
for the Dodgers? Will they be got to the outfield
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and replace kenfordo? If they will put them in the
batting cage? See how they do. Possibly, I don't know,
might have to check with legal on that. Possibly that
is a fair point if you sign a waiver. If
you sign a waiver, we'll put you in the batter's box.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And so we do a wait to see how they
get out of this mess with the three game series
against the Giants coming up later on?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do you remember Jonas, I don't know, you're not that
far from my age. I'm old, I guess. But years ago,
the Dodgers were at Candlestick Park right before the trade deadline.
I think it was the day of the deadline, of right,
and they were not playing well and lesworda traded who
I believe became a Hall of Famer for Jeff Shaw
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of the Cincinnati res He was a closer, and it
was Paul Konerko. I remember, and maybe I'm misremembering this.
It's been a long time, but like at Candlestick, you
had to walk all the way across the field. It
was like the walk of shame because he was traded,
like during the game and had to walk all the
way across the field to the visitors clubhouse at Candlestick.
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And that was back in the days that you make
those kind of moves, right, That's what they would do.
So he can't you can't get beat up by the
Giants this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I never saw I never saw a game of Candlestick,
but I want.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
An s whole My god, this I drove by it,
you know, I'm like, what is this like. They played
games there. There were NFC title games. I only went
to a few games there. They actually sent me up there.
The Dodgers in the in the late nineties. They were
playing the Giants a two game series, right, they were
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gonna it was like the National League West, And of
course the Dodgers lost both games, but it was it
was such an asshole, like the clubhouses were all. It
was just dump and uh. At night, you felt like
you were in Alaska. It was like, it was unbelievable,
the night game stuff. I love the story about Candlestick though,
that Vin Scully used to tell this story. I believe
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it was Vin that told the story that when the
Giants were moving out from New York, they were looking
where to build the ballpark, and they took the executives,
the little local political hacks in San Francisco took the
Giants executives out to Candlestick Point at like one o'clock
in the afternoon. It was It's amazing they didn't take
them out at seven o'clock at night, because you would
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have needed a park, correct. I swear to god, I
drove by it. I thought we were in Chernobyl. It's
just such a dump and I'm like, wait a second.
They played actual championship games here for years and it's
just okay with it is ironic because it's funny. The
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Giants ballpark now is amazing. They absolutely nailed yet around
the ballpark's the streets of San Francisco kind of like
Chernobyl a little bit right. I mean, it's a little tough.
Don't leave it in your car, it won't be there
when you get back. It's a tough. The ballpark's amazing,
but my area.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
My One of my favorite David Vasse moments on AM
five seventy l A Sports is so last year. I
think it was last year. The year before I was
filling in for Matt money Smith. I was working with
Petros and we're interviewing Dave because he he's there for
a Dodgers Giant series and we're talking to Dave and
(05:04):
it was he gets on the air with us literally
sixty seconds after a guy walked in and stole the
tip jar from a pizza parlor in San Francisco. Like
Dave's sitting there having a slice of pizza and some
scumbag derelict wearing two different shoes, a pair of dickies
that looked like he pulled it out of a fire,
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walks in, just grabs the tip jar off and didn't
even run out.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It was just like, no, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Like they got they got enough things to worry about
in this town and just grab the money and walked out.
And Dave's like, oh yeah, I just saw somebody steal
the tip jar just walked right in and took it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sweet. There's a if you want next time you're San Francisco.
And I don't know that I recommend this, but if
you if you like people watching, you know that famous
peer forty nine. I think it's called I think here
thirty nine. I think thirty nine, Yeah, thirty nine, that's right.
Whatever is. Uh. So, there's a parking lot right across
the street from there, Yeah, the big tourist strap at
San Francisco. And if you want, just stand off to
the side and watch, and if you stay there for
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about an hour, you'll see at least one car get
broken into, uh about one an hour, they average, because
that's where all the tourists park their cars. And it's uh,
it's like going shopping right in that parking lot right
near the famous pier.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know, and uh, you know, in some places where
you know it's it's peaceful, they try and look for
shooting stars.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
In San France, it's like which crime will be committed?
You know, you got a Bengo car.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
What do we get to get it? Well, burglary?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Do we have burglar?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wet? H Yeah, it is a little dice. What do
we have there?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, but we do have the return of something great
here on this show. It's been a long time since
we have.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Heard this is lift.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Stories lighting up their sports headbox.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I remember, see if I can remember how to do this, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But how long has it been, by the way, keVs?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Two years now or so something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Man Fred's such a hater or like one of the
great segments, one of the great segments in the history
of Rogan and Rodney.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And for some reason, now, why was it retired? Do
we know why I was retired?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Was a reason that it was not?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Really?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I don't really know what us back, you know what?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And just for that, Fred is going to be so
pissed off that he's not here for this particular story,
because no.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
One loves Robo Umpires more than him.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
And I don't know if you guys saw this, but
it was announced last night that Major League Baseball is
actually going to use the ABS Challenge system for the
All Star Game coming up next week. And Jonas, you
are shaking your head. You're not a big fan of
the ABS Challenge system that is going to be used
for the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You need the umpires, you need the flaw potential of
the game. That's what keeps the essence of baseball. I want,
I want arguing, I want disagreements. I want the chance
for an umpire to throw somebody out and then get
spit on afterwards by a manager like I. Just the
way they're trying to change all this stuff. You gotta
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have the human element, all right, And you cannot just
eliminate umpires altogether, which is what I hope doesn't end
up happening if they.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Go down this rag. Yeah. And and the other thing too, Jonas,
is these are the strike zones programmed by a human
at some point. It's not just an algorithm. Somebody has
to put it in there. But I'm right there, I'm
piggybacking off that. I agree. I missed the days where
pitchers actually had to scout the umpire like you had
to scout just the Empire called the low strike or
the high strike, or they have a wide strike zone.
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And that was that was a degree of difficulty in
baseball where guys like Greg Maddox and you know, the
old school old hersche eis of that era even before that,
would study the umpire. Now you have to study it
with robots. This is rob Manford's got to bug up
his focus to put this in. You know, this is
his is his crap. I hate it. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And but by the way, we weren't players at like
I think there was like a high percentage of players
in Major League Baseball said they didn't support it, that
they wanted to have actual human beings called.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes, you're right, I believe it was.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Evandralic of the Athletic did an entire interview along with
Jason Stark, and they pulled a bunch of players around baseball.
None of them like the fully automated zone. And the
handful of them are okay with the ABS, but the
great majority of the players surveyed say that they just
want to keep things as is.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why is Fred so horny for this? What gives.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
His argument is that he says, like the people at
home shouldn't know more than people at the game. If
you know what the strike zone is, you see the
little box on TV. If it's a strike, it's a strike.
If it's a ball, it's a ball. The human element
means that there are calls that are going to be
called wrong. If a strike is a strike, then it's
a strike. If it's in the zone, this idea of
pitch framing and holding it out of the zone or
an inch off the corner, is it a strike or
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is it not a strike? He thinks it's objective at
this point. It should not be left to the subjectivity
of a numpire.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's subjective a lot of officiating. We're gonna do that
in all sports, like in basketball. How many calls in
basketball are subjective? Is it a foul?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There is a challenge system in basketball, I'll say, and
in the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But it's even something but it isn't. I mean, it can
challenge it, but it's subjective to whoever's making the ultimate decision.
It's they're they're the ones deciding it. They're deciding whether
it's a penalty. So how would how would this challenge
system work in baseball? Would they?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Are you allowed to challenge it once an inning? Or
are they looking to get rid of umpires all together.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think it's gonna be like Spring training where they
did the exactly they do it real quick. The other
thing too, And I want to know this, Kevin, do
we know? And Jonas you know how in baseball when
the games will blow out, the strike zone gets the
size of riverside count. Do you think you think possibly
they'll have a larger strike zone if it's a blowout
and in the regular one of his close game, because
that's what that's what the real umpires will do. They'll
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make get out of here. The games will blowout. Let's
get this thing over with.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I mean, if Key k Hernandez is on the mound,
are they keeping the same strikes that they were keeping
in the first you.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like at some point we got to go home, man,
Like if you can't if you can't help your average
through the first eight innings, I can't help you in
the ninth.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I don't know if to tell you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'll spare your guys a discussion about MLB's salary cap
because that's a big story that came out last night.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I will jump onto this.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
When it comes to college football, media days are now
abound ecc hat there's the Big twelve SEC media days
for college football or next week, and Dion Sanders made
some headlines when he said he has the reason or
he has the solution of how to fix college football
in particularly when it comes to paying players. Here's what
Dion had to say on the stage at Big twelve
media Days yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I wish it was a cap, you know, like the
top of the line player makes this, and if you're
not that type of guy, you know you're not gonna
make that. That's what the NFL does. So the probably
mean is you got a guy that's not that durn good,
but he could go to another school and they give
him a half a million dollars and you can't compete
with that. That don't make sense. And you're talking about equality,
not equality like equal I thinks to equality. And then
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all you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand during
your why the end playoffs, it's kind of hard to
compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars
so during freshman.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Class, right, It's.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It's crazy. We're not complaining because all these coaches are here,
and a coach at bts off and given the right
opportunity with the right players and play here and there,
you'll be there. But it's what's going on right now
don't make sense, and we want to say stuff, but
we're trying to be professional. But you're going to see
the same teams during at the end and with somebody
who sneaks up in there, but the team that pays
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the more, pays the most is gonna be then it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm so tired of this crap. So I was talking
to Petrouss about this.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
The college football offseason is miserable, Like can we just
can somebody figure it out, like set the parameters and
let's just go play, Like I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So tired of this wall. There's going to be this
playoff and this nil and this impacted here and this
team gets this, this team, dude, can we just set
set the rules, set the parameters and then afterwards go
back to the good old days where people who just
draw duffle bags of cash off at somebody's doorstep and
nobody said anything. Just go back to the good old days.
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And that's what that's what Dion wants. How about Dion like,
I'm not complaining while complaining, I love that. I'm not.
I'm not complaining about it. I'm just you know, no,
And didn't Deon say he didn't want to coach in
the NFL because of all the nonsense in the NFL.
This is that the NFL like the salary cap and
and Dion of all like the coolest guy in the
in the world, Deon Sanders. Everyone loves Deon. Everyone wants
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to play for Dion and all that stuff, I think,
And yet he's out there like, you know, I want
to keep the artificially, keep the salaries down. We're gonna
have a cap on how much you can pay the
star players in college football. It's Deon admitting I can't.
I have no chance in com beating. And you're right,
it's gonna be like the that old HBO show The Sopranos,
with Manila envelopes with cash being handed out uh to
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the top players. And so you can't unring the bell.
How are you gonna uner ring the bell in college football?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And has anybody seen blue Chips, give Ricky row a
tractor and just shut the hell up. Nobody says anything
but this is This is why you see all these
coaches that move away from college football because like, man,
f this, I don't even want.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
To deal with this crap.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like Jeff Hafley left Boston College took the Packers decordinating
a decordinator job. Chip Kelly left UCLA.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Nick Saban was like, look, man, if I can't use
the old school bag man, I'm out of here. Like
I don't I want to deal with this crap any boy?
Nick Nick was always like the closer. He just dropped
in a helicopter and get the deal done. But he
we couldn't do that. He had to bring a Brinks
truck with him to get the deal done at Alabama.
That was it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
One other thing Dion said too. I don't have audio
of it.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I just found it very interesting when he says like
guys are able to transfer out because they get more
nil money somewhere else, and that's unfair. I guess Dean
doesn't remember when he stood in front of the Colorado
team and say like, I'm bringing all my baggage with
me in his Louis and he brought twenty five percent
of the Jackson state roster with him and gave him
all money bumps to transfer into Colorado.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's right, right that he didn't tell anyone in Jackson.
He said, no, I can't go get more money. No
he didn't. That argument went out the window, obviously.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, conveniently.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You remember you remember Barry Switzer. Remember that old story
about Barry Switzer. He showed up to a recruits house
and he looked through the trash cans on the side
of the house before he walked in the house to
see what kind of beer the dad drank.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And someone the dad.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Asked him, like, hey, can I get you anything. He's like,
you know what, I normally don't do this, but you
know I'll take I'll take a PBR or whatever it
was in the can. And the guy's like, you know
me too, that's what I drink. You don't say like
those are the good old days. Now it's all this mess.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Dumpster diving, just a little dumpster dive.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, that's what's lighting up the headlines.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There is the great Kevin Figures with the return of
its lips, should be a show staple, should be a
show staple. It is Ben Mallard Jonas Knox in for
Rogan and Rodney here on AM five seventy l A Sports.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You can also hear this show.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. Again, we are giving
away one pair of tickets to the Dodgers Cardinal on
August fourth, So make sure you're listening throughout the course
of the show and we will hand out any moment.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You never know. You gotta listen, you gotta keep listening.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Coming up next here though, Ben, somebody in the NFL
is having a really really bad week, really bad week,
could get away moving forward.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That'll be yours here next on AM five to seventy
LA Sports.
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He's Ben Mallar, I'm Jonas Knox, in for the guys
coming up here in about we'll call it fifteen minutes
from now. We're going to get back into the struggles
of the La Dodgers and executactly how this whole thing
gets fixed in the midst of the worst losing streak
they've had since twenty nineteen. That'll be yours here again
a little over fifteen minutes from now, and again a reminder,
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we are giving away a pair of tickets to the
Dodgers Cardinals on August fourth, So keep listening, keep listening throughout,
and those tickets could be yours at some point before
the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
At any moment, you could just all of a sudden,
we hit a button and and then like bells start
going off in buzzers, and then somebody wins tickets, just
like an Astro game back in twenty seventy.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know, you know, I will say this. I always
am a firm believer, and I'm not trying to be negative. Okay,
this is not you know, somebody who's spent way too
much time working, you know, working before the sun comes
out in radio to be overly negative.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So I don't want to be overly negative. But I've
always felt this way.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, that everybody's got a little bit of scumbag in them, everybody.
It just depends on when it comes out, But ultimately
everybody's got a little bit a dirtbag in him. You
listening right now on the blowtorch, You've got a little
dirt bag in you. Everybody does. And this NFL collusion stuff,
I think is hilarious because for so long the owners
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have been painted out is the evil villains, and they're
the ones that are trying to, you know, just hoard
all the money, and it's the owners who don't care
about the well being of the players and there and
then you come to find out based on this evidence
that came out that Pablo Tory uncovered, where basically you've
got owners communicating back and forth, whether it was Spano's
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and Bidwell, talking about Justin Herbert's deal and how how
it you know, how that impacted you know, Kyler Murray's deal,
impacting Justin Herbert down the road, like all of that stuff.
And then you find out that you've got infighting. They
want the NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howe removed because they
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covered up that evidence and didn't tell players and that
was before Lloyd All got there, and now you come
to find out that he's you know, he's a consultant
for a private investing firm that invests in NFL. Like
the whole thing. You just come to discover, Oh, they're
all in this together. There is no NFLPA, there is
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no owners. It's all one big grouping. It's like politics.
Everybody's in on it, and the players are looking around
going wait what yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Exactly exactly this it's I don't know that it's great
talk radio because it's it's involving like lawyers and politics
and all that. But the NFL to sum it up,
like to boil it down, if you will. Here, like
the they were in bed with each other. They have
the evidence, and instead of outrage, instead of transparency and
(19:47):
all that, they're like, well, let's just push this aside
for we'll have a vow of silence. You know, we
don't want to upset anyone, you know, so just keep
it quiet. It reminds me of the great Jesse Ventura
who came by the Premier Networks building years ago, and
it was, of course a big politician I think it
was in Mexico now, and he told the story about
when he the most amazing thing when he's dealt with
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Washington politics was that all of the Democrats and the
Republicans would fight with each other and it's much worse
now than it was then. And then they'd all go
to the same cocktail parties. The same thing here that
like all these lawyers in Manhattan, they all go out
to Long Island on the weekends, they all go to
the same you know, they're in the same social circles.
So they're all friends with each other. It's all a show.
(20:32):
It's all it's all a show. Jonas.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
You work with with Brady Quinn and LeVar Arrington in
the morning. So I'm interested if they had any perspective
on this, because I know Rodney Pete and Eric Dickerson
have talked on this show multiple times about how screwed
up the nflp A excuse me, pa is, and how
they've been in bed with the league for years and
the players have always been screwed over by them.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, LaVar just said this morning, He's like, yeah,
I never trusted him, Yeah, I never like he just
did it. It feels like one big con and then
the best So when this was Demores Smith, the former
executive director of the NFLPA. He's got this book that's
out and I guess it's coming out in August. And
Demores Smith said something along the line like he ripped
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into Aaron Rodgers and said Aaron Rodgers stood up at
a meeting and made a very loud exit and sort of,
you know, villainized Rogers and then went on to say,
I got a text from Aaron Rodgers one time saying
can we talk? And he and he pointed out that
he would rather walk into traffic than talk to Aaron Rodgers.
Hold on a second, dude, you you are running the
(21:35):
show at the PA. One of the stars of your
league wants to have a conversation and you'd rather walk
into traffic, Like, yes, well, because the union would rather
hang out with Goodell and Jeff Pash, you know, the
League council, that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Guy, Jeff Passi and all that, so the other one
to hang out together.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Is this gonna help or hurt sales of that book?
I'm I don't know. It's like it's still out there
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The whole thing it like it just but look, you
made mention of the astros and the and the cheating
scandal and all that and Rob Manfred and it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
The same thing. It's well baseball. My favorite part of
that whole episode is that baseball was tipped off while
the Astros were cheating Jonas remember this. They were I
think it was the Athletics of the Mariner's somebody in
the divisions like, they're cheating. We don't know what they're doing.
They're not doing it legally, so they contacted League Office,
Major League Baseball opened the Keystone cops at Baseball open
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an investigation. While the Astros are cheating. They investigated, said
nothing wrong, everything's good. It was only after a pitcher
on the team you mentioned, Evan Drelik's name came up.
Evan Drelik is the guy that broke that story, the
writer for the Athletic that had that story because he
knew one of the guys on the the Astros who
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had to he had pitched like the Red Sox in
the past. I think it was but he knew the
guy from their past work in baseball, and without that
they would have completely got gotten away with it. And
the only reason face and even my theory is my opinion,
you can't ssue me is that they only gave a
half ass investigation in that because there's other stuff. I mean,
the the Alto buzzer. They claimed, oh, there's no evidence
(23:14):
of that. Like I think they just tipped the surface,
just like the NFL and the Players Association, so that
the union their decision is we're gonna play hide the ball.
That was we're gonna hide. We're gonna play to hide
the ball, said you know, with from the from the players,
it's it's wild and without this story coming out. The
other issue Jonas is the NFL is in bed with
(23:36):
all the big media companies, right, so nobody really wants
to step on those toes. And that's why it took
Pablo Torre, who's just got some podcast somewhere to see
the light in the darkness. Put the light on there
in the darkness and all that.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
In the back rooms.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, it's like the Tim Donahey cheating scandal when that
came out, or the gambling scandal with Tim Donnay the
ESPN and and the end. I guess the NBA knew
about it but didn't say anything because they were on
the verge of doing that big time TV deal with
the ESPN and then it was only after they signed
(24:10):
the deal and the ink was drive.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They're like, huh, would you look at this?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We got to get this scoundrel out of the league.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And then even that, you know, I mentioned the Astros.
It was like a half half assed investigation. But David Stern,
who I liked. You know, they did commission the old
Commissioner of Basketball. They said they swore it was a
lone wolf. Remember it was he was the only one
doing it. There were like five thousand phone calls between
Scott Foster and Tim Donnie, but he was the only
(24:40):
one that did it. Yeah, that was it and nothing else.
Nothing to see here, move on, you know, and all
that and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So and by the way, Tim Donnie has been pretty
consistent about Scott Foster having some uh that they're being like,
having some involvement in some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Have you ever interviewed Tim Donnie? Have you ever talked
to him? I I'm the only person on planet Earth
who's never interviewed Tim Donnie. I don't do any interview.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
He will.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He even interviewed me from my podcast I had him on.
It was like talking to a robot. I think I
was talking to an algorithm like it was just he
he had all these canned answers, he done so many interviews,
he had all these there was no emotion. It's a
lifeless interview.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I can speak to that because it came on Adam
and I's podcast too, when he was making his rounds.
And I will listen to an interview with him two
weeks later with somebody else might as well have just
been cutting paste, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's what you know, what you Kevin, when you're doing
your pass and when I'm doing an interview and I
feel like I'm not this is just I could have
just played some old interview like what are you doing here?
Like why are you wasting my time? Hey?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That used to be the old school trick doing updates
in a small market radio market eighty three in Charleston,
South Carolina. You know, we had this edict that was
handed out by our program director that said, hey, anytime
you do an update, you've got to have some sound. Well,
it's a little different when you don't have an editing
department and literally nobody is pulling sound and you don't
(26:02):
have the capability of pulling sound in real time. Remember,
I remember going back because I was doing a preview
of the Saints Colt Super Bowl, and I remember going
back to like a Week three game where Reggie Bush
made some generic comment about playing like the panther, something
along the lines of, listen, if we can hold onto
the ball, then special things can happen here with this team.
(26:23):
And I inserted that in. It's like it was a
real time quote that was happening before the Super Bowl. Look, man,
Tim donnhe's just helping everybody out here. All right, Just
see here's one. I'll just play unless there's video. You
may not have even known Kevin, whether or not Tim
Donahey was actually doing the interview live, he might have
hit play.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He might have just hit it and had everything already
lined up for you. Oh yeah, no, you could totally
totally do that. In fact, when I was doing the
locker room stuff when I was covering as a stringer,
when I started, and it got to the point where
I when you would do stuff for AP, you had
to get a sound bite, two sound bites from the
(27:02):
winning team, one sound bite from the losing team. And
it got to the point where I would go up
the guys and I'd be like dude, just give me
fifteen seconds of the cliches and they would do it.
They would just they would just give me cliches because
they knew they did. They didn't want to talk to me,
and I didn't really want to talk to them, but
I just wanted to get it over with them, like all,
I'll give you some cliche, you know, take it one
game at a time. We got to play better, you know,
(27:22):
and then just few cliches and get I get my
sound and that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's great and all you need. And there are some
people that all they care about is do you have sound?
And who's the sound from? Like used to like I remember,
like I always toyed with the idea because it's not
like this anymore. But it used to be where it
didn't matter how good the show was if you didn't
have two or three well known guests on the show.
(27:47):
Oh yes, all certain people cared about was who was
your guest list? And I swear to god, I toyed
with the idea of just making up guests like Tiger
Wood's an hour one, Abe Lincoln an hour two, and
then Michael Jordan if finish sh up to show an
hour three, just to see if anybody was actually gonna
go back and listen to the show, because some people
they just care about the SoundBite, not actually what the
(28:09):
sound is.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I've heard, Yeah, the program directors that were like, you
gotta get guests on. I think that's ended. Finally, Fortunately
it's been a few years since that's been the case.
They said, it's amazing people actually tune in, like you
listening right now. You probably upsex with me and Jonas
are here, Ben and Jonas, but you tune in here
with Rodney and and Fred had to say, not what
some guest has to say, particularly, and I think it
(28:30):
adds something great. But the cliche thing, Jonas, I I
have heard so many clichs. I could literally do after
a game. I could be a coach for any team.
But I'm really proud of our guys, right, you know,
or if we lost, we didn't we didn't make enough plays,
you know, and you know these are good team. We
just didn't execute today. Just didn't execute today. That was
the problem, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And and then and then when you are honest about
stuff like the great Lee Elia, like the world's working.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The other fifty percent come out here. It's a playground
for the blank blanks.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know if we can pull that at some
point on the show, but that is the all time.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That is the gold standard.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Is the the former Cubs manager who basically just wore out.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And that was after a that was after a Dodger
Cub game. That was after in the early eighties. I
think it was like nineteen eighty three, and that was
back when the clubhouses were in center field. Of year,
You're a Cub guy in Brigley Field, So the players
were walking out to the clubhouse and the fans at
Rigley Field were throwing trash at him. The Nichol and
(29:37):
Dime people. No, I actually met. I met the guy
that recorded that he passed away a couple years ago,
was doing the Overnights in Chicago, less Less Grobston, Yes
and Less. I think it was like but he told
me like much like Lesorta, you know, it was great
Kingman's performance and Bovaca could hit water if he fell
out of a boat, like uh uh the uh those
(29:59):
were that was even the worst, Like had more rants
than that. He actually kept his job. He didn't lose
his job after that. He kept it for a little bit.
He kept his job it was like a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And then you've got a Scott Pasednik who just was
that that. Yes, that was on the King of Cliches.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't we have that here on five sever That
was actually as a Dodger on the Dodger radio broadcast.
He he gave the most generic response. And there was
also one this guy John McClaren of All Peoples, the
Mariners manager. He gave a generic response. I used to
play that all the time back when we used to
play sound on my overnight show. We was pretty much
stup doing that. But uh, I can't. I don't know,
(30:38):
but uh, but yeah, I mean that was I love
those Those are so good. Classic coaching meltdowns are old.
Or but Jim Moore, who used to work at Fox's
radio back in the day, right, playoff, but the greatest
ones we couldn't do Diddley Pooh I is still Yeah,
an NFL coach saying Diddley Pooh is still just amazing,
you know. Uh, former Fox Sports radio alum Jim you know, yes,
(31:02):
didn't you do shows with him? I did? I love
I did shows with Jim Mora during Katrina, remember that?
And yeah, and Jim was like, yeah, I used to
drive on that. I used to go eat dinner at
that restaurant underwater. You know it was.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
It was wildzins Man, What is it with you not
wanting to play sound in the overnights? I don't get that.
What's what's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I learned a lesson somewhere along. I don't know what
happened Joana's seventeen times in a row before I learned
my lesson. Something might have happened. I don't know what
it is. I don't know. Hey, love it two. There
is well, you know, I don't want to name anymore,
(31:49):
but you know, there's are There are good movies to
watch while you're other people are preparing for the show.
You know. I'm just saying, you know, just the things happen,
you know, I don't want to get No, there's nice
restaurants in Los Angeles, Jones, I have somebody us nice
dinner plans. All the people are getting ready for radios.
I mean, that's fun. It's okay, you know, it happens.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
You know, Look, man, some people are all in, yeah,
but people are not in at all. Yes, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1 (32:21):
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Speaker 1 (33:13):
Coming up top of next hour, we'll call it, actually
we'll call it about ten minutes from now. We are
going to get the very latest, the very latest from
around the National Football League. Believe it or not. The
Chargers the Bolts are going to be action in action
very very soon, sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think three days away or something like that. Joe
rookies begin, they start to training camp, and it's here, Yeah,
it's almost here. The first they play, aren't the Chargers
in the Hall of Fame game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it's them and the Lions and the Meathead Bowl
I believe, which will be.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yea four string guys for the Charges versus the fifth
string guys for the Lions.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And you know it's great though. Somebody somewhere is betting
on that game. That's what's great, you know what I mean?
Oh my god, everything. And by the way, that's somebody
is me. I will partake in that as well too,
if I can, I will. I will absolutely partake. There's
nothing better than betting on a game that the people
involved in the game do not care about.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I have no idea, no idea. And all the point
spreads in those exhibition games are like three points, right,
it's always usually three points or less. Yeah, just throwing
out there. Somebody will bet on it. Just rolling out there.
Everything's gonna be fine, and somebody has to win, right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I think they maybe not unless the turf is melting
like that, like the Hall of Fame game that one
day where they just canceled the game and said, screw it,
there's no there.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
At some point, I do enjoy the Hall of Fame
game because usually by the end of the first quarter
they're already bringing in guests into into the booth to interview.
Because the games they don't even bother watching the game.
Here's the Hall of Famers. Let's say, uh, the guy
with the gold jacket, let's bring him in, you know,
one after another.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Now you did mention, we are going to get back
into the conversation about the Dodgers. Blake Snell has got
his rehab assignment.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Who knows how he's gonna be in cho Kukamonga, right,
he's pitch isn't today? I think he's pitching in Ranchell.
So Massa is probably out there right now. I mean,
have lunch. It is a day off, you know, it's
a day off.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You could still make that flight to UH to San
fran be up there in what forty five to fifty
minutes at a burbank.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's easy. That's an easy trip. Yeah, that's light.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, so we'll have the the very latest on the
Blake Snell Blake Trining. We'll see whether or not they're
going to be impact players for the Dodgers down the stretch.
But we did mention the gold standard of meltdowns in
the world of sports. For those that haven't heard this,
and kudos to Kevin Figures who spent a lot of
(35:37):
time trying to come up with a clean version of this.
The great Lee Elia, former manager of the Cubs, and
this was after a loss to the Dodgers been Yes,
it was.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Early in the season. Dodgers were playing the Cubs at
Wrigley Field. It was April twenty ninth. I think it
was like eighty. It's my birthday. My birthday is able
to rain it, So that's how I know that. But
Lee Ilia, the team was losing. They were they were
supposed to good that year. They got off to a
slow start. The fans are throwing trash at the coach
players as they're walking off the field, and Lee Ilia
lost it.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
I'll tell you one thing, I hope we get hotter
and shit. Get to stuff them three thousand people that
show up every day, because if they're the real Chicago fans.
They can kiss my pants right downtown and print it.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Go out there and let my players get destroyed.
Speaker 10 (36:27):
Every day and be quiet about it. For the pickl
nine people to show up. The mother don't even work.
That's why they're out at the game. They're only goead
and get a job and find out what it's like.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
To go out.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
They're in a liven any fight.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
Percent of the world's working, the other fifteen come out here.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, I mean it was just a take. I mean
he got even. It kept going. I mean I mean even,
I mean got even.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
There wasn't enough time left in the show for me
to edit it so I can turn it around and
put it back on the air.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Can you imagine that nowadays? Like everyone for showing up
during day games and go get away job. And that
was back before they didn't even have lights at Wrigley
that all the games were during the day. They they
didn't lights it until the late eighties. This was in
nineteen eighty three. You know, Lee Eliot worked for the
(37:33):
Dodgers as an advisor. I think when I believe when
Ned Colletti was the GM, I saw Lee Elia in
the press box and I thought I was in the
presence of God. I mean I Jonas. I was like, oh,
this is this is the legend of legends. I think
we's still around too. He's obviously old now.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But five percent of the world's work on the other
fifteen coming here.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Then he said it's the playground for the blank blanks.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Ah that oh that is so good now since we're
talking about rants, Ironnie, if you could turn me up here.
So we played this on the show before. It's one
of Fred's favorites. So the old manager of the Orioles,
ear A Weaver, got into it with an umpire at
one point in time. And see, Jonas, I'm guessing this
is the reason why you don't want there to be
an automated strike zone, because it'll it'll take us away, Yeah,
(38:20):
from magic moments like this between managers and umpires.
Speaker 11 (38:26):
On your shouf, Earl, you your mean yeah, got you go,
you're glad.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Jump You're going.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, yes, And don't you ever put your finger on
me and you hit me?
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Earl.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
You know what's your thing?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
You knock nobody on his eysk.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
You're doing it again, and I'll lock you're right here.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
No, got you Jack, Hi did not No, you're mine?
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Damn how I are you? No? You you aren't lying.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
You're a big liar.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You're a liar.
Speaker 11 (39:07):
You now you have the one reason to be this
stup wrong and you'll have your chance tomorrow. Oh God,
this quick is.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You ain't no good. No, you aren't either.
Speaker 11 (39:21):
You aren't no good, You're no Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I'll never have our games.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I hope you.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I want to rot care what what are you doing here?
Speaker 11 (39:30):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Why don't you call the league office and ask me?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I will bro good?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Don't think I will good? And that's quicker you get
on it'll be better too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, that's right. You ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
You aren't either.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
Tim to know who's in the Hall of Fame boor
you're gonna be in the oone No right.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You girl?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Series you know it's I don't want more than i've
roust kid.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I know you haven't a gage job.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh so like like you throw in some robots, you
don't get any of that. And you know what the
best part is, those guys probably wouldn't have a drink later.
Oh good deal, disagree, but have a heated disagree.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
But everything's going to be fine. Yeah, the part whatsoever.
I love the way the umpire handled that. And then
the the other Earl Weaver audio, which is amazing. Is
it never got broadcast because it couldn't. But the Manager's Corner.
Have you have you heard that? Jonas?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Oh you've not heard?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Oh my god. We definitely can't play that on the air.
But it's uh oh we I mean we could edit it.
That'll take Kevin about two hours. It will be done
for the Petros and Money Show. But yeah, they did
this mock, you know, like like the back in the
I don't think they really do this many anymore, but
they the manager would go on the pregame radio show
and it was in Baltimore. Was it was Manager's Corner
(40:46):
and it was the funniest thing. Uh, we should try
to find it. It's on the it's on the internet.
We'll see if you can find it. But it's hilarious.
He talks about a rose garden. He answers listener question
or you know, fans questions, idea. Oh my god, it
was so good. Uh manage those corner with Earl Lever
and before every Orioles game and then he just goes
(41:07):
on this it's just the most ridiculous answer. And he
uh he talked about the ool is a choieter guy
because we thought he'd look good on the bench. He
can't hit, you know, I just go on. I mean
it was hilarious. It was the funniest thing.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Uh, it's just uh, there's there's nothing better. And you
know Fred, Fred wants to get rid of all that.
He wants the personality taken out of baseball. Let's bring
the robot umps in, you know. Let's it's like the
person who has more than ten items in the cart
and still they go self check out.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Just wait in line. Let the human being bring you
up and go back to the old days. So no
it you've got to get it right all the time.
You kill you. Oh my god. If let's you get
it right, it's so is baseball.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, come on, it is rogan E Roddy here on
a five seventy l A Sports. He's Ben Malor. I'm
Jonas Knox. Again a reminder, we are giving away one
pair of tickets to the Dodgers Cardinals coming up on
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to have your opportunity to have those and up next
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could get in the NFL moving forward in the very
(42:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
So I just want to he know, Ronnie's here and
Kevin's obviously. I mean, they're the meat and potatoes of
the show. Yeah, these put together, they're the backbone of
the Rogan and Rodney show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Without them, we would sound awful. Not that we sound great,
but without them, we would sound especially awful without this
Thursday afternoon, well.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Without Ronnie filtering our voices, because we actually have very
high pitched voices, but we have filters, so we sound
somewhat normal.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think, Yeah, he makes us. He makes us sound good.
That's what's most important.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
By the way, you can look good with a pair
of Dodger tickets that we will be giving away coming
up later on Dodgers Cardinals on August firth or August fourth.
We're gonna be giving that away here at some point
throughout the course of the show. So if you want
to go see the and if you want to see
and be sort of the spark that ignites the turnaround
(01:06):
and the ending of the losing streak for the La Dodgers.
You can do that just by listening here and we'll
give out the caller number later on on the show.
And you can also, by the way, listen to this
show as always on the iHeartRadio app as well too.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Always streaming. You never missed the show. I love the
iHeart actually have it on a phone. I'm not I
do that promo every night, but I actually have the
iHeartRadio app on my phone. Actually, great assumer of it.
It is really good. Like they nailed it. They got
it right on that. Now, as far as those Dodger tickets,
if the team continues to lose before August fourth, will
the listener that wins the tickets be able to play
for the Dodgers? Will they be got to the outfield
(01:42):
and replace kenfordo? If they will put them in the
batting cage? See how they do. Possibly, I don't know,
might have to check with legal on that. Possibly that
is a fair point if you sign a waiver. If
you sign a waiver, we'll put you in the batter's box.
How about that?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And so we do a wait to see how they
get out of this mess with the three game series
against the Giants coming up later on?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do you remember Jonas, I don't know, you're not that
far from my age. I'm old, I guess. But years ago,
the Dodgers were at Candlestick Park right before the trade deadline.
I think it was the day of the deadline, of right,
and they were not playing well and lesworda traded who
I believe became a Hall of Famer for Jeff Shaw
(02:25):
of the Cincinnati res He was a closer, and it
was Paul Konerko. I remember, and maybe I'm misremembering this.
It's been a long time, but like at Candlestick, you
had to walk all the way across the field. It
was like the walk of shame because he was traded,
like during the game and had to walk all the
way across the field to the visitors clubhouse at Candlestick.
(02:46):
And that was back in the days that you make
those kind of moves, right, That's what they would do.
So he can't you can't get beat up by the
Giants this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I never saw I never saw a game of Candlestick,
but I want.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
An s whole My god, this I drove by it,
you know, I'm like, what is this like. They played
games there. There were NFC title games. I only went
to a few games there. They actually sent me up there.
The Dodgers in the in the late nineties. They were
playing the Giants a two game series, right, they were
(03:20):
gonna it was like the National League West, And of
course the Dodgers lost both games, but it was it
was such an asshole, like the clubhouses were all. It
was just dump and uh. At night, you felt like
you were in Alaska. It was like, it was unbelievable,
the night game stuff. I love the story about Candlestick though,
that Vin Scully used to tell this story. I believe
(03:43):
it was Vin that told the story that when the
Giants were moving out from New York, they were looking
where to build the ballpark, and they took the executives,
the little local political hacks in San Francisco took the
Giants executives out to Candlestick Point at like one o'clock
in the afternoon. It was It's amazing they didn't take
them out at seven o'clock at night, because you would
(04:06):
have needed a park, correct. I swear to god, I
drove by it. I thought we were in Chernobyl. It's
just such a dump and I'm like, wait a second.
They played actual championship games here for years and it's
just okay with it is ironic because it's funny. The
(04:27):
Giants ballpark now is amazing. They absolutely nailed yet around
the ballpark's the streets of San Francisco kind of like
Chernobyl a little bit right. I mean, it's a little tough.
Don't leave it in your car, it won't be there
when you get back. It's a tough. The ballpark's amazing,
but my area.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
My One of my favorite David Vasse moments on AM
five seventy l A Sports is so last year. I
think it was last year. The year before I was
filling in for Matt money Smith. I was working with
Petros and we're interviewing Dave because he he's there for
a Dodgers Giant series and we're talking to Dave and
(05:04):
it was he gets on the air with us literally
sixty seconds after a guy walked in and stole the
tip jar from a pizza parlor in San Francisco. Like
Dave's sitting there having a slice of pizza and some
scumbag derelict wearing two different shoes, a pair of dickies
that looked like he pulled it out of a fire,
(05:25):
walks in, just grabs the tip jar off and didn't
even run out.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It was just like, no, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Like they got they got enough things to worry about
in this town and just grab the money and walked out.
And Dave's like, oh yeah, I just saw somebody steal
the tip jar just walked right in and took it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sweet. There's a if you want next time you're San Francisco.
And I don't know that I recommend this, but if
you if you like people watching, you know that famous
peer forty nine. I think it's called I think here
thirty nine. I think thirty nine, Yeah, thirty nine, that's right.
Whatever is. Uh. So, there's a parking lot right across
the street from there, Yeah, the big tourist strap at
San Francisco. And if you want, just stand off to
the side and watch, and if you stay there for
(06:02):
about an hour, you'll see at least one car get
broken into, uh about one an hour, they average, because
that's where all the tourists park their cars. And it's uh,
it's like going shopping right in that parking lot right
near the famous pier.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know, and uh, you know, in some places where
you know it's it's peaceful, they try and look for
shooting stars.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
In San France, it's like which crime will be committed?
You know, you got a Bengo car.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
What do we get to get it? Well, burglary?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Do we have burglar?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wet? H Yeah, it is a little dice. What do
we have there?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, but we do have the return of something great
here on this show. It's been a long time since
we have.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Heard this is lift.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Stories lighting up their sports headbox.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I remember, see if I can remember how to do this, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But how long has it been, by the way, keVs?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Two years now or so something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Man Fred's such a hater or like one of the
great segments, one of the great segments in the history
of Rogan and Rodney.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And for some reason, now, why was it retired? Do
we know why I was retired?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Was a reason that it was not?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Really?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I don't really know what us back, you know what?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And just for that, Fred is going to be so
pissed off that he's not here for this particular story,
because no.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
One loves Robo Umpires more than him.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
And I don't know if you guys saw this, but
it was announced last night that Major League Baseball is
actually going to use the ABS Challenge system for the
All Star Game coming up next week. And Jonas, you
are shaking your head. You're not a big fan of
the ABS Challenge system that is going to be used
for the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You need the umpires, you need the flaw potential of
the game. That's what keeps the essence of baseball. I want,
I want arguing, I want disagreements. I want the chance
for an umpire to throw somebody out and then get
spit on afterwards by a manager like I. Just the
way they're trying to change all this stuff. You gotta
(08:03):
have the human element, all right, And you cannot just
eliminate umpires altogether, which is what I hope doesn't end
up happening if they.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Go down this rag. Yeah. And and the other thing too, Jonas,
is these are the strike zones programmed by a human
at some point. It's not just an algorithm. Somebody has
to put it in there. But I'm right there, I'm
piggybacking off that. I agree. I missed the days where
pitchers actually had to scout the umpire like you had
to scout just the Empire called the low strike or
the high strike, or they have a wide strike zone.
(08:32):
And that was that was a degree of difficulty in
baseball where guys like Greg Maddox and you know, the
old school old hersche eis of that era even before that,
would study the umpire. Now you have to study it
with robots. This is rob Manford's got to bug up
his focus to put this in. You know, this is
his is his crap. I hate it. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And but by the way, we weren't players at like
I think there was like a high percentage of players
in Major League Baseball said they didn't support it, that
they wanted to have actual human beings called.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes, you're right, I believe it was.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Evandralic of the Athletic did an entire interview along with
Jason Stark, and they pulled a bunch of players around baseball.
None of them like the fully automated zone. And the
handful of them are okay with the ABS, but the
great majority of the players surveyed say that they just
want to keep things as is.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why is Fred so horny for this? What gives.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
His argument is that he says, like the people at
home shouldn't know more than people at the game. If
you know what the strike zone is, you see the
little box on TV. If it's a strike, it's a strike.
If it's a ball, it's a ball. The human element
means that there are calls that are going to be
called wrong. If a strike is a strike, then it's
a strike. If it's in the zone, this idea of
pitch framing and holding it out of the zone or
an inch off the corner, is it a strike or
(09:45):
is it not a strike? He thinks it's objective at
this point. It should not be left to the subjectivity
of a numpire.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's subjective a lot of officiating. We're gonna do that
in all sports, like in basketball. How many calls in
basketball are subjective? Is it a foul?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There is a challenge system in basketball, I'll say, and
in the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But it's even something but it isn't. I mean, it can
challenge it, but it's subjective to whoever's making the ultimate decision.
It's they're they're the ones deciding it. They're deciding whether
it's a penalty. So how would how would this challenge
system work in baseball? Would they?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Are you allowed to challenge it once an inning? Or
are they looking to get rid of umpires all together.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think it's gonna be like Spring training where they
did the exactly they do it real quick. The other
thing too, And I want to know this, Kevin, do
we know? And Jonas you know how in baseball when
the games will blow out, the strike zone gets the
size of riverside count. Do you think you think possibly
they'll have a larger strike zone if it's a blowout
and in the regular one of his close game, because
that's what that's what the real umpires will do. They'll
(10:42):
make get out of here. The games will blowout. Let's
get this thing over with.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I mean, if Key k Hernandez is on the mound,
are they keeping the same strikes that they were keeping
in the first you.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like at some point we got to go home, man,
Like if you can't if you can't help your average
through the first eight innings, I can't help you in
the ninth.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I don't know if to tell you.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'll spare your guys a discussion about MLB's salary cap
because that's a big story that came out last night.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I will jump onto this.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
When it comes to college football, media days are now
abound ecc hat there's the Big twelve SEC media days
for college football or next week, and Dion Sanders made
some headlines when he said he has the reason or
he has the solution of how to fix college football
in particularly when it comes to paying players. Here's what
Dion had to say on the stage at Big twelve
media Days yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I wish it was a cap, you know, like the
top of the line player makes this, and if you're
not that type of guy, you know you're not gonna
make that. That's what the NFL does. So the probably
mean is you got a guy that's not that durn good,
but he could go to another school and they give
him a half a million dollars and you can't compete
with that. That don't make sense. And you're talking about equality,
not equality like equal I thinks to equality. And then
(11:50):
all you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand during
your why the end playoffs, it's kind of hard to
compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars
so during freshman.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Class, right, It's.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It's crazy. We're not complaining because all these coaches are here,
and a coach at bts off and given the right
opportunity with the right players and play here and there,
you'll be there. But it's what's going on right now
don't make sense, and we want to say stuff, but
we're trying to be professional. But you're going to see
the same teams during at the end and with somebody
who sneaks up in there, but the team that pays
(12:26):
the more, pays the most is gonna be then it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm so tired of this crap. So I was talking
to Petrouss about this.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
The college football offseason is miserable, Like can we just
can somebody figure it out, like set the parameters and
let's just go play, Like I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So tired of this wall. There's going to be this
playoff and this nil and this impacted here and this
team gets this, this team, dude, can we just set
set the rules, set the parameters and then afterwards go
back to the good old days where people who just
draw duffle bags of cash off at somebody's doorstep and
nobody said anything. Just go back to the good old days.
(13:05):
And that's what that's what Dion wants. How about Dion like,
I'm not complaining while complaining, I love that. I'm not.
I'm not complaining about it. I'm just you know, no,
And didn't Deon say he didn't want to coach in
the NFL because of all the nonsense in the NFL.
This is that the NFL like the salary cap and
and Dion of all like the coolest guy in the
in the world, Deon Sanders. Everyone loves Deon. Everyone wants
(13:26):
to play for Dion and all that stuff, I think,
And yet he's out there like, you know, I want
to keep the artificially, keep the salaries down. We're gonna
have a cap on how much you can pay the
star players in college football. It's Deon admitting I can't.
I have no chance in com beating. And you're right,
it's gonna be like the that old HBO show The Sopranos,
with Manila envelopes with cash being handed out uh to
(13:47):
the top players. And so you can't unring the bell.
How are you gonna uner ring the bell in college football?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And has anybody seen blue Chips, give Ricky row a
tractor and just shut the hell up. Nobody says anything
but this is This is why you see all these
coaches that move away from college football because like, man,
f this, I don't even want.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
To deal with this crap.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like Jeff Hafley left Boston College took the Packers decordinating
a decordinator job. Chip Kelly left UCLA.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Nick Saban was like, look, man, if I can't use
the old school bag man, I'm out of here. Like
I don't I want to deal with this crap any boy?
Nick Nick was always like the closer. He just dropped
in a helicopter and get the deal done. But he
we couldn't do that. He had to bring a Brinks
truck with him to get the deal done at Alabama.
That was it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
One other thing Dion said too. I don't have audio
of it.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I just found it very interesting when he says like
guys are able to transfer out because they get more
nil money somewhere else, and that's unfair. I guess Dean
doesn't remember when he stood in front of the Colorado
team and say like, I'm bringing all my baggage with
me in his Louis and he brought twenty five percent
of the Jackson state roster with him and gave him
all money bumps to transfer into Colorado.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's right, right that he didn't tell anyone in Jackson.
He said, no, I can't go get more money. No
he didn't. That argument went out the window, obviously.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, conveniently.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You remember you remember Barry Switzer. Remember that old story
about Barry Switzer. He showed up to a recruits house
and he looked through the trash cans on the side
of the house before he walked in the house to
see what kind of beer the dad drank.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And someone the dad.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Asked him, like, hey, can I get you anything. He's like,
you know what, I normally don't do this, but you
know I'll take I'll take a PBR or whatever it
was in the can. And the guy's like, you know
me too, that's what I drink. You don't say like
those are the good old days. Now it's all this mess.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Dumpster diving, just a little dumpster dive.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, that's what's lighting up the headlines.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There is the great Kevin Figures with the return of
its lips, should be a show staple, should be a
show staple. It is Ben Mallard Jonas Knox in for
Rogan and Rodney here on AM five seventy l A Sports.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
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Everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. Again, we are giving
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August fourth, So make sure you're listening throughout the course
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Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
Coming up next here though, Ben, somebody in the NFL
is having a really really bad week, really bad week,
could get away moving forward.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
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Speaker 1 (16:49):
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gets fixed in the midst of the worst losing streak
they've had since twenty nineteen. That'll be yours here again
a little over fifteen minutes from now, and again a reminder,
(17:09):
we are giving away a pair of tickets to the
Dodgers Cardinals on August fourth, So keep listening, keep listening throughout,
and those tickets could be yours at some point before
the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
At any moment, you could just all of a sudden,
we hit a button and and then like bells start
going off in buzzers, and then somebody wins tickets, just
like an Astro game back in twenty seventy.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know, you know, I will say this. I always
am a firm believer, and I'm not trying to be negative. Okay,
this is not you know, somebody who's spent way too
much time working, you know, working before the sun comes
out in radio to be overly negative.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So I don't want to be overly negative. But I've
always felt this way.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, that everybody's got a little bit of scumbag in them, everybody.
It just depends on when it comes out, But ultimately
everybody's got a little bit a dirtbag in him. You
listening right now on the blowtorch, You've got a little
dirt bag in you. Everybody does. And this NFL collusion stuff,
I think is hilarious because for so long the owners
(18:12):
have been painted out is the evil villains, and they're
the ones that are trying to, you know, just hoard
all the money, and it's the owners who don't care
about the well being of the players and there and
then you come to find out based on this evidence
that came out that Pablo Tory uncovered, where basically you've
got owners communicating back and forth, whether it was Spano's
(18:35):
and Bidwell, talking about Justin Herbert's deal and how how
it you know, how that impacted you know, Kyler Murray's deal,
impacting Justin Herbert down the road, like all of that stuff.
And then you find out that you've got infighting. They
want the NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howe removed because they
(18:55):
covered up that evidence and didn't tell players and that
was before Lloyd All got there, and now you come
to find out that he's you know, he's a consultant
for a private investing firm that invests in NFL. Like
the whole thing. You just come to discover, Oh, they're
all in this together. There is no NFLPA, there is
(19:15):
no owners. It's all one big grouping. It's like politics.
Everybody's in on it, and the players are looking around
going wait what yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Exactly exactly this it's I don't know that it's great
talk radio because it's it's involving like lawyers and politics
and all that. But the NFL to sum it up,
like to boil it down, if you will. Here, like
the they were in bed with each other. They have
the evidence, and instead of outrage, instead of transparency and
(19:47):
all that, they're like, well, let's just push this aside
for we'll have a vow of silence. You know, we
don't want to upset anyone, you know, so just keep
it quiet. It reminds me of the great Jesse Ventura
who came by the Premier Networks building years ago, and
it was, of course a big politician I think it
was in Mexico now, and he told the story about
when he the most amazing thing when he's dealt with
(20:10):
Washington politics was that all of the Democrats and the
Republicans would fight with each other and it's much worse
now than it was then. And then they'd all go
to the same cocktail parties. The same thing here that
like all these lawyers in Manhattan, they all go out
to Long Island on the weekends, they all go to
the same you know, they're in the same social circles.
So they're all friends with each other. It's all a show.
(20:32):
It's all it's all a show. Jonas.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
You work with with Brady Quinn and LeVar Arrington in
the morning. So I'm interested if they had any perspective
on this, because I know Rodney Pete and Eric Dickerson
have talked on this show multiple times about how screwed
up the nflp A excuse me, pa is, and how
they've been in bed with the league for years and
the players have always been screwed over by them.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, LaVar just said this morning, He's like, yeah,
I never trusted him, Yeah, I never like he just
did it. It feels like one big con and then
the best So when this was Demores Smith, the former
executive director of the NFLPA. He's got this book that's
out and I guess it's coming out in August. And
Demores Smith said something along the line like he ripped
(21:14):
into Aaron Rodgers and said Aaron Rodgers stood up at
a meeting and made a very loud exit and sort of,
you know, villainized Rogers and then went on to say,
I got a text from Aaron Rodgers one time saying
can we talk? And he and he pointed out that
he would rather walk into traffic than talk to Aaron Rodgers.
Hold on a second, dude, you you are running the
(21:35):
show at the PA. One of the stars of your
league wants to have a conversation and you'd rather walk
into traffic, Like, yes, well, because the union would rather
hang out with Goodell and Jeff Pash, you know, the
League council, that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Guy, Jeff Passi and all that, so the other one
to hang out together.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Is this gonna help or hurt sales of that book?
I'm I don't know. It's like it's still out there
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The whole thing it like it just but look, you
made mention of the astros and the and the cheating
scandal and all that and Rob Manfred and it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
The same thing. It's well baseball. My favorite part of
that whole episode is that baseball was tipped off while
the Astros were cheating Jonas remember this. They were I
think it was the Athletics of the Mariner's somebody in
the divisions like, they're cheating. We don't know what they're doing.
They're not doing it legally, so they contacted League Office,
Major League Baseball opened the Keystone cops at Baseball open
(22:31):
an investigation. While the Astros are cheating. They investigated, said
nothing wrong, everything's good. It was only after a pitcher
on the team you mentioned, Evan Drelik's name came up.
Evan Drelik is the guy that broke that story, the
writer for the Athletic that had that story because he
knew one of the guys on the the Astros who
(22:52):
had to he had pitched like the Red Sox in
the past. I think it was but he knew the
guy from their past work in baseball, and without that
they would have completely got gotten away with it. And
the only reason face and even my theory is my opinion,
you can't ssue me is that they only gave a
half ass investigation in that because there's other stuff. I mean,
the the Alto buzzer. They claimed, oh, there's no evidence
(23:14):
of that. Like I think they just tipped the surface,
just like the NFL and the Players Association, so that
the union their decision is we're gonna play hide the ball.
That was we're gonna hide. We're gonna play to hide
the ball, said you know, with from the from the players,
it's it's wild and without this story coming out. The
other issue Jonas is the NFL is in bed with
(23:36):
all the big media companies, right, so nobody really wants
to step on those toes. And that's why it took
Pablo Torre, who's just got some podcast somewhere to see
the light in the darkness. Put the light on there
in the darkness and all that.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
In the back rooms.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, it's like the Tim Donahey cheating scandal when that
came out, or the gambling scandal with Tim Donnay the
ESPN and and the end. I guess the NBA knew
about it but didn't say anything because they were on
the verge of doing that big time TV deal with
the ESPN and then it was only after they signed
(24:10):
the deal and the ink was drive.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They're like, huh, would you look at this?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We got to get this scoundrel out of the league.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And then even that, you know, I mentioned the Astros.
It was like a half half assed investigation. But David Stern,
who I liked. You know, they did commission the old
Commissioner of Basketball. They said they swore it was a
lone wolf. Remember it was he was the only one
doing it. There were like five thousand phone calls between
Scott Foster and Tim Donnie, but he was the only
(24:40):
one that did it. Yeah, that was it and nothing else.
Nothing to see here, move on, you know, and all
that and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So and by the way, Tim Donnie has been pretty
consistent about Scott Foster having some uh that they're being like,
having some involvement in some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Have you ever interviewed Tim Donnie? Have you ever talked
to him? I I'm the only person on planet Earth
who's never interviewed Tim Donnie. I don't do any interview.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
He will.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
He even interviewed me from my podcast I had him on.
It was like talking to a robot. I think I
was talking to an algorithm like it was just he
he had all these canned answers, he done so many interviews,
he had all these there was no emotion. It's a
lifeless interview.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I can speak to that because it came on Adam
and I's podcast too, when he was making his rounds.
And I will listen to an interview with him two
weeks later with somebody else might as well have just
been cutting paste, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's what you know, what you Kevin, when you're doing
your pass and when I'm doing an interview and I
feel like I'm not this is just I could have
just played some old interview like what are you doing here?
Like why are you wasting my time? Hey?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That used to be the old school trick doing updates
in a small market radio market eighty three in Charleston,
South Carolina. You know, we had this edict that was
handed out by our program director that said, hey, anytime
you do an update, you've got to have some sound. Well,
it's a little different when you don't have an editing
department and literally nobody is pulling sound and you don't
(26:02):
have the capability of pulling sound in real time. Remember,
I remember going back because I was doing a preview
of the Saints Colt Super Bowl, and I remember going
back to like a Week three game where Reggie Bush
made some generic comment about playing like the panther, something
along the lines of, listen, if we can hold onto
the ball, then special things can happen here with this team.
(26:23):
And I inserted that in. It's like it was a
real time quote that was happening before the Super Bowl. Look, man,
Tim donnhe's just helping everybody out here. All right, Just
see here's one. I'll just play unless there's video. You
may not have even known Kevin, whether or not Tim
Donahey was actually doing the interview live, he might have
hit play.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He might have just hit it and had everything already
lined up for you. Oh yeah, no, you could totally
totally do that. In fact, when I was doing the
locker room stuff when I was covering as a stringer,
when I started, and it got to the point where
I when you would do stuff for AP, you had
to get a sound bite, two sound bites from the
(27:02):
winning team, one sound bite from the losing team. And
it got to the point where I would go up
the guys and I'd be like dude, just give me
fifteen seconds of the cliches and they would do it.
They would just they would just give me cliches because
they knew they did. They didn't want to talk to me,
and I didn't really want to talk to them, but
I just wanted to get it over with them, like all,
I'll give you some cliche, you know, take it one
game at a time. We got to play better, you know,
(27:22):
and then just few cliches and get I get my
sound and that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's great and all you need. And there are some
people that all they care about is do you have sound?
And who's the sound from? Like used to like I remember,
like I always toyed with the idea because it's not
like this anymore. But it used to be where it
didn't matter how good the show was if you didn't
have two or three well known guests on the show.
(27:47):
Oh yes, all certain people cared about was who was
your guest list? And I swear to god, I toyed
with the idea of just making up guests like Tiger
Wood's an hour one, Abe Lincoln an hour two, and
then Michael Jordan if finish sh up to show an
hour three, just to see if anybody was actually gonna
go back and listen to the show, because some people
they just care about the SoundBite, not actually what the
(28:09):
sound is.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I've heard, Yeah, the program directors that were like, you
gotta get guests on. I think that's ended. Finally, Fortunately
it's been a few years since that's been the case.
They said, it's amazing people actually tune in, like you
listening right now. You probably upsex with me and Jonas
are here, Ben and Jonas, but you tune in here
with Rodney and and Fred had to say, not what
some guest has to say, particularly, and I think it
(28:30):
adds something great. But the cliche thing, Jonas, I I
have heard so many clichs. I could literally do after
a game. I could be a coach for any team.
But I'm really proud of our guys, right, you know,
or if we lost, we didn't we didn't make enough plays,
you know, and you know these are good team. We
just didn't execute today. Just didn't execute today. That was
the problem, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And and then and then when you are honest about
stuff like the great Lee Elia, like the world's working.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The other fifty percent come out here. It's a playground
for the blank blanks.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know if we can pull that at some
point on the show, but that is the all time.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That is the gold standard.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Is the the former Cubs manager who basically just wore out.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And that was after a that was after a Dodger
Cub game. That was after in the early eighties. I
think it was like nineteen eighty three, and that was
back when the clubhouses were in center field. Of year,
You're a Cub guy in Brigley Field, So the players
were walking out to the clubhouse and the fans at
Rigley Field were throwing trash at him. The Nichol and
(29:37):
Dime people. No, I actually met. I met the guy
that recorded that he passed away a couple years ago,
was doing the Overnights in Chicago, less Less Grobston, Yes
and Less. I think it was like but he told
me like much like Lesorta, you know, it was great
Kingman's performance and Bovaca could hit water if he fell
out of a boat, like uh uh the uh those
(29:59):
were that was even the worst, Like had more rants
than that. He actually kept his job. He didn't lose
his job after that. He kept it for a little bit.
He kept his job it was like a couple of months.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And then you've got a Scott Pasednik who just was
that that. Yes, that was on the King of Cliches.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't we have that here on five sever That
was actually as a Dodger on the Dodger radio broadcast.
He he gave the most generic response. And there was
also one this guy John McClaren of All Peoples, the
Mariners manager. He gave a generic response. I used to
play that all the time back when we used to
play sound on my overnight show. We was pretty much
stup doing that. But uh, I can't. I don't know,
(30:38):
but uh, but yeah, I mean that was I love
those Those are so good. Classic coaching meltdowns are old.
Or but Jim Moore, who used to work at Fox's
radio back in the day, right, playoff, but the greatest
ones we couldn't do Diddley Pooh I is still Yeah,
an NFL coach saying Diddley Pooh is still just amazing,
you know. Uh, former Fox Sports radio alum Jim you know, yes,
(31:02):
didn't you do shows with him? I did? I love
I did shows with Jim Mora during Katrina, remember that?
And yeah, and Jim was like, yeah, I used to
drive on that. I used to go eat dinner at
that restaurant underwater. You know it was.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
It was wildzins Man, What is it with you not
wanting to play sound in the overnights? I don't get that.
What's what's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I learned a lesson somewhere along. I don't know what
happened Joana's seventeen times in a row before I learned
my lesson. Something might have happened. I don't know what
it is. I don't know. Hey, love it two. There
is well, you know, I don't want to name anymore,
(31:49):
but you know, there's are There are good movies to
watch while you're other people are preparing for the show.
You know. I'm just saying, you know, just the things happen,
you know, I don't want to get No, there's nice
restaurants in Los Angeles, Jones, I have somebody us nice
dinner plans. All the people are getting ready for radios.
I mean, that's fun. It's okay, you know, it happens.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
You know, Look, man, some people are all in, yeah,
but people are not in at all. Yes, Oh my god,
it is Rogan Rodney here on AM five seventy Sports.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
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You can listen to this show and hear it everywhere
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On the I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Coming up top of next hour, we'll call it, actually
we'll call it about ten minutes from now. We are
going to get the very latest, the very latest from
around the National Football League. Believe it or not. The
Chargers the Bolts are going to be action in action
very very soon, sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think three days away or something like that. Joe
rookies begin, they start to training camp, and it's here, Yeah,
it's almost here. The first they play, aren't the Chargers
in the Hall of Fame game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it's them and the Lions and the Meathead Bowl
I believe, which will be.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yea four string guys for the Charges versus the fifth
string guys for the Lions.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And you know it's great though. Somebody somewhere is betting
on that game. That's what's great, you know what I mean?
Oh my god, everything. And by the way, that's somebody
is me. I will partake in that as well too,
if I can, I will. I will absolutely partake. There's
nothing better than betting on a game that the people
involved in the game do not care about.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I have no idea, no idea. And all the point
spreads in those exhibition games are like three points, right,
it's always usually three points or less. Yeah, just throwing
out there. Somebody will bet on it. Just rolling out there.
Everything's gonna be fine, and somebody has to win, right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I think they maybe not unless the turf is melting
like that, like the Hall of Fame game that one
day where they just canceled the game and said, screw it,
there's no there.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
At some point, I do enjoy the Hall of Fame
game because usually by the end of the first quarter
they're already bringing in guests into into the booth to interview.
Because the games they don't even bother watching the game.
Here's the Hall of Famers. Let's say, uh, the guy
with the gold jacket, let's bring him in, you know,
one after another.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Now you did mention, we are going to get back
into the conversation about the Dodgers. Blake Snell has got
his rehab assignment.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Who knows how he's gonna be in cho Kukamonga, right,
he's pitch isn't today? I think he's pitching in Ranchell.
So Massa is probably out there right now. I mean,
have lunch. It is a day off, you know, it's
a day off.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You could still make that flight to UH to San
fran be up there in what forty five to fifty
minutes at a burbank.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's easy. That's an easy trip. Yeah, that's light.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, so we'll have the the very latest on the
Blake Snell Blake Trining. We'll see whether or not they're
going to be impact players for the Dodgers down the stretch.
But we did mention the gold standard of meltdowns in
the world of sports. For those that haven't heard this,
and kudos to Kevin Figures who spent a lot of
(35:37):
time trying to come up with a clean version of this.
The great Lee Elia, former manager of the Cubs, and
this was after a loss to the Dodgers been Yes,
it was.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Early in the season. Dodgers were playing the Cubs at
Wrigley Field. It was April twenty ninth. I think it
was like eighty. It's my birthday. My birthday is able
to rain it, So that's how I know that. But
Lee Ilia, the team was losing. They were they were
supposed to good that year. They got off to a
slow start. The fans are throwing trash at the coach
players as they're walking off the field, and Lee Ilia
lost it.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
I'll tell you one thing, I hope we get hotter
and shit. Get to stuff them three thousand people that
show up every day, because if they're the real Chicago fans.
They can kiss my pants right downtown and print it.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Go out there and let my players get destroyed.
Speaker 10 (36:27):
Every day and be quiet about it. For the pickl
nine people to show up. The mother don't even work.
That's why they're out at the game. They're only goead
and get a job and find out what it's like.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
To go out.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
They're in a liven any fight.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
Percent of the world's working, the other fifteen come out here.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, I mean it was just a take. I mean
he got even. It kept going. I mean I mean even,
I mean got even.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
There wasn't enough time left in the show for me
to edit it so I can turn it around and
put it back on the air.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Can you imagine that nowadays? Like everyone for showing up
during day games and go get away job. And that
was back before they didn't even have lights at Wrigley
that all the games were during the day. They they
didn't lights it until the late eighties. This was in
nineteen eighty three. You know, Lee Eliot worked for the
(37:33):
Dodgers as an advisor. I think when I believe when
Ned Colletti was the GM, I saw Lee Elia in
the press box and I thought I was in the
presence of God. I mean I Jonas. I was like, oh,
this is this is the legend of legends. I think
we's still around too. He's obviously old now.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But five percent of the world's work on the other
fifteen coming here.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Then he said it's the playground for the blank blanks.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Ah that oh that is so good now since we're
talking about rants, Ironnie, if you could turn me up here.
So we played this on the show before. It's one
of Fred's favorites. So the old manager of the Orioles,
ear A Weaver, got into it with an umpire at
one point in time. And see, Jonas, I'm guessing this
is the reason why you don't want there to be
an automated strike zone, because it'll it'll take us away, Yeah,
(38:20):
from magic moments like this between managers and umpires.
Speaker 11 (38:26):
On your shouf, Earl, you your mean yeah, got you go,
you're glad.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Jump You're going.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, yes, And don't you ever put your finger on
me and you hit me?
Speaker 9 (38:47):
Earl.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
You know what's your thing?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
You knock nobody on his eysk.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
You're doing it again, and I'll lock you're right here.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
No, got you Jack, Hi did not No, you're mine?
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Damn how I are you? No? You you aren't lying.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
You're a big liar.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You're a liar.
Speaker 11 (39:07):
You now you have the one reason to be this
stup wrong and you'll have your chance tomorrow. Oh God,
this quick is.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You ain't no good. No, you aren't either.
Speaker 11 (39:21):
You aren't no good, You're no Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I'll never have our games.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I hope you.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I want to rot care what what are you doing here?
Speaker 11 (39:30):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Why don't you call the league office and ask me?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I will bro good?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Don't think I will good? And that's quicker you get
on it'll be better too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, that's right. You ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
You aren't either.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
Tim to know who's in the Hall of Fame boor
you're gonna be in the oone No right.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You girl?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Series you know it's I don't want more than i've
roust kid.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I know you haven't a gage job.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh so like like you throw in some robots, you
don't get any of that. And you know what the
best part is, those guys probably wouldn't have a drink later.
Oh good deal, disagree, but have a heated disagree.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
But everything's going to be fine. Yeah, the part whatsoever.
I love the way the umpire handled that. And then
the the other Earl Weaver audio, which is amazing. Is
it never got broadcast because it couldn't. But the Manager's Corner.
Have you have you heard that? Jonas?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Oh you've not heard?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Oh my god. We definitely can't play that on the air.
But it's uh oh we I mean we could edit it.
That'll take Kevin about two hours. It will be done
for the Petros and Money Show. But yeah, they did
this mock, you know, like like the back in the
I don't think they really do this many anymore, but
they the manager would go on the pregame radio show
and it was in Baltimore. Was it was Manager's Corner
(40:46):
and it was the funniest thing. Uh, we should try
to find it. It's on the it's on the internet.
We'll see if you can find it. But it's hilarious.
He talks about a rose garden. He answers listener question
or you know, fans questions, idea. Oh my god, it
was so good. Uh manage those corner with Earl Lever
and before every Orioles game and then he just goes
(41:07):
on this it's just the most ridiculous answer. And he
uh he talked about the ool is a choieter guy
because we thought he'd look good on the bench. He
can't hit, you know, I just go on. I mean
it was hilarious. It was the funniest thing.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Uh, it's just uh, there's there's nothing better. And you
know Fred, Fred wants to get rid of all that.
He wants the personality taken out of baseball. Let's bring
the robot umps in, you know. Let's it's like the
person who has more than ten items in the cart
and still they go self check out.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Just wait in line. Let the human being bring you
up and go back to the old days. So no
it you've got to get it right all the time.
You kill you. Oh my god. If let's you get
it right, it's so is baseball.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, come on, it is rogan E Roddy here on
a five seventy l A Sports. He's Ben Malor. I'm
Jonas Knox. Again a reminder, we are giving away one
pair of tickets to the Dodgers Cardinals coming up on
August fourth. You've got to keep it here, stay listening
to have your opportunity to have those and up next
we're going to tell you about how ugly things really
could get in the NFL moving forward in the very
(42:06):
near future, and that's yours here next on the Blowtorch
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