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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Here we go on a
hump day. Rodney Pete, my man, Jonas not Jonas. I
don't even have to introduce you anymore. Everybody knows your
household name now. Man, you're on the show more than me.
(00:22):
It's we're clones, man, you and me, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I mean, look, it's uh just you know whatever. Kevin
reaches out and so yeah, come in, let's do it.
Let's have some fun. That's always fun. You guys make
it easy here.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I love it. I love your availability. Man, you are
so I'll give it anyway, you know. Co host of
The Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on weekdays
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and also the host of The Jonahs Knox Show on
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Fox Sports Radio. All Right, Jonas, man, listen, Uh let's
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get into it. Because I the All Star Game the
two days I thought were great. And look, I know
we do on this show, Fred and I bash all
the other All Star games. I mean, the NFL has
just did away with it all together. Right, there's no
Pro Bowl anymore. It's just fun and games at the
Carnival basically, and and the NBA All Star Game is
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a waste of time. And they've tried to figure out
different ways to make it work and trying to do
different formats. It still is something that you it's not
really watchable. But I thought last night I thought both
days really home run derby. I know people wanted the
big names in it. We'll talk about that in a minute.
But I thought last night was a huge win for
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Major League Baseball. Yeah, I just thought the way the
game was played, it became close, it looked like it
was going to be a runaway for the National League.
American League ties it up, and then they go to
the swing off, which I don't know about you. I
had no idea they were going to do this, you know,
during the course of the game, because I hadn't heard.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm not entirely sure that everybody there had any idea they.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Were doing it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It seemed like, okay, what do we do now? Some
people got filled in last week because Joe Davis even
made the point to where he said, you know, all
Star games can't go to extra innings. Will fill you
in as to what happens when we get there. It's
almost like the producers like, hey, Joe, reminder because we
didn't actually think the now was going to blow this
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lead a reminder that you know, we've got some changes there.
They're not going to actually put a ghost runner on
second and try and do this like the regular season.
So yeah, yeah, it was Look. I think that the
advantage Major League Baseball has over football basketball is that
you can play this pretty realistically close to what the
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regular actual product looks like and you're not really putting
anybody at the risk of injury. I mean, Suarez got
hit by that pitch late, which was you know, I
apparently X rays or negative on his on his panky,
So there's there is that risk, and you can always
have an injury a guy running and he blows out
his knee or something crazy or fluky like that. But
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it's the most closely I guess, it represents the sport
more closely than any other sport can in an exhibition.
And so because of that, that's the big difference between
that and the NFL and the NBA. It's like when
you see a band live and they're nowhere close to
what they sound like on the album, and you go, oh,
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it's kind of like, what was that, and then you realize, oh,
that was like a studio performer, and then you and
then you have more respect when you see a band
live and you go, hey, they sound pretty similar to
what they sound like in the studio, right, And baseball
sounds pretty similar to what they look like in the
studio because it looks almost exactly like a regular season
game would. So from that standpoint, they always have the advantage.
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They just doubled down on that swing off last night
because that was awesome. That was because it's easy for
everybody to understand. You're not confusing anybody like you are
with the NBA, who's got four teams here, and if
you score one hundred before like whatever that rule was
that came up with, it's probably been ousted now. Or
the Pro Bowl, which has got like a bunch of like, uh,
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you know, Pro Bowl caliber, all pro players playing ski
ball and like corn hole and all these other goofy
events because they don't want to risk injury. Baseball's like,
all right, let's just make it easy. Pick three guys.
You pick three guys, just hit bombs, and whoever it
hits the most, we're out of here. And everybody goes,
I'm happy. I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah. And the reaction of the players, which is why
you know that it was such a hit, because the
players were going nuts. Oh yeah, they were going nuts.
And I'd love to see that rooting for each other
and yeah, I just it just And you're right about that.
When I was listening to you talk about you know,
baseball has the advantage of making it real. You're absolutely right,
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because football, certainly with the contact, you don't want your
quarterback getting hit. You don't want you don't want anybody
getting hit, uh, in a in a meaningless game like that,
and which is why they kind of did away with it.
And it's used because it turned into brother in law
rules and in the in the Pro Bowl, where nobody
was really getting tackled. It was just wrapping up and guys,
would you just go down and say okay, I'm going
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down and hey, hey, don't hit me.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Brother in law rules for people that never played far.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh yes, the brother in law. The brother in law
rule is when you have live is it started in practice,
So when you have live drills in practice and they
say okay, we're gonna go ones versus ones, or one's
versus twos, and we're gonna go hard, so you talk.
It starts with the offensive defensive linement. It's like, all right, listen, listen,
all right, I'm not gonna go too hard. You don't,
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you don't go too hard. We just make it look good.
We're gonna make it look good. So we just gonna
changle with each other and call it a day.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Wait, is a real thing?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Made me talk? Wait?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Really?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Really?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes, yes, it's a real thing, a real thing. It's
called the brother in law. And and it got so
bad to the point where guys brother law, like during
the right before the plate and so yeah, you got
the offensive tackle and the defensive mand going hey brother
in law, brother and they will just act like they're
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really going hard, but they're really not. And it turns
into a stalemate. I heard that before doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So it's like it's like a pull apart exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Look as good as possible, exactly right, w W E
exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
The coaches know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They do, they do, they what they certainly do and
never heard that. Yeah, yeah, the brother in law, that's great.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But but yeah, you know, you get schemes out there
and He's like, Hey, I'm I'm gonna throw a hundred.
I'm trying to strike somebody. I'm not gonna look bad.
I'm likeing, let somebody take me deep in all national
television with millions of people watching. I'm not going to
do that. So it was it was competitive. What did
you think of I thought it was a great moment
with Kershaw as well? Yeah, yeah, you know, him being
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in him being included and Manfred putting him on the
team and then him going going out there and getting
the two outs and then being taken out by Dave
after the second strike or after the strikeout and the
second out. I thought it was class. He gave him
his moment, gave him his flowers, all the guys came in,
gave him hugs, and he got the ovation. So I
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thought it was great. What do you think about Kershaw?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I thought it was great as well too, just to
send off the respect and appreciation, and you could tell
he he thought it was cool. Also, they showed him
before the game and he was warming up and he
was taking it. There was no other in law Hershaw.
He took that very seriously because it's probably most likely
his last All Star Game appearance, and you know, he
went out there, he pitched two thirds of an inning,
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and they wanted to make sure he got the shine
as he came off the field alone. Freddie Freeman got celebrated, obviously,
being back in Atlanta where he did so many amazing
things there, won a World Series there, he got celebrated.
I thought they celebrated their legends in a great way
and put on a great show man and all you
can ask for from an exhibition standpoint, Because there were
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some people talking about, you know, miss Rowski from the Brewers,
and you know, players getting snubbed and player, Look, when
Major League Baseball came up with the idea that every
team should have a representative in the All Star Game,
right there, should have given you your answers. Yeah, it's
next Yeah, and every year somebody's gonna get snubbed, So yeah,
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you're right, there's other players who probably deserved it over him,
But he was there and it was cool. And you
bring up the point of how excited the players were
at the end when it came to the swing off.
These are the best players in the world, or the
best players in Major League Baseball. I mean, whoever the
other best players in the world. Are will be a
Dodger in the next couple of years anyway, Yes, we
now that works. You were there up close and stealing
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foul balls from people to know that that's all few
of us. But these are the best players in Major
League Baseball. And to see the best players who are
around the best constantly be as excited as they were
in the moment. Yeah, to your point, that tells you
everything you need to know about it. It's they It
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was an opportunity for Major League Baseball. They stumbled upon
something really cool. And now I wonder are they going
to try and implement this more? Are they going to
try and hey, you know this the swing off we
did last time was awesome. Some people were wondering why
some of those players were chosen according to.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Major League Baseball up guys.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, according to uh, you know a Major League Baseball
those were predetermined before the game. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah,
because tours before Otani makes a ton of sense for
everybody involved, right, Yeah, No, that was chosen because those
guys were probably not there anymore. They they had probably
bailed and we're on a flight.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Otani, Will Smith and Freddy and Kershaw were hovering over
Dallas at that point.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Because I thought the same thing. I thought, Man, what
is Dave Roberts doing talking about read the room like
you're in Atlanta. You wouldn't choose Freddy to be one
of the one of the players, or a Kunya to
be one of the players to represent them, Like what's
wrong with you? And then you start hearing, yeah, those
guys aren't there anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Man gone an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
They are gone. And I remember hearing this story about
the Pro Bowl that Troy Aikman left the Pro Bowl
one year he left. Yeah, just was like, I don't
even know if he can if he took his shoulder
pads off, he just failed and walked out. He was like, listen, man,
I'm on vacation. I got to get out of town.
So I didn't I didn't have as much of an
issue with that, And it was an opportunity for them
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to showcase some other players that maybe don't get the
love that they probably deserve. Overall, really fun event, really
really good, fun summertime event at Major.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
League base And even if those guys were there, you know,
I don't think I don't think they because you know,
everybody talks about the injury factor, right, that's just the
big elephant, and not even an elephant in the room.
It's the it's it is the room. But you know,
they come out of the game in the second or
third inning and they're sitting for an hour and a half.
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So to ask them to go back and and and
give three swings after you've been sitting for an hour
and a half, I don't care. If you go in
the cage and down in the in the clubhouse, you're
still cold and you're not thinking about that moment. And
so they have guys that are that are still active
and still running around. Made sense. So I don't even
I don't even think if the guys were there, would
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they call up on him. But you make a good
point though, you know, being in Atlanta, it was cool
to see Freddy and Acuna go at it and make
that happen. But for Kyle Schwarber, Man, what a moment
for you? Oh yeah, what a moment man? Three bombs man?
It was It was great. I know.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I love watching Schwarber hit just because he remember Matt Stairs.
Dodger fans, remember Matt says he hit this big home
run in the playoffs against him, but he's just this.
If you literally, if you leave it anywhere in the
zone near the plate, it's going four to twenty five
minimum minimum in any ballpark. And so to see him
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get his moment and to get to get all that,
I thought was great. And then yeah, look those guys
were were out and they bailed early. Some people were questioning,
why don't you stick around with your teammates. It's one
hundred and sixty two game season. It is a grind, man,
I get it. Like, look, if I can if I
can sneak out a year early and avoid the chaos
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and avoid the postgame obligations or whatever else is going on,
and I can go spend time with my family or
just decompress for an extra day or an extra night,
I totally get it. Man, it's a grind, especially you
know some of those guys.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Even when you get there's a grind. Think about what
they had to do. There's press conferences, there's all kinds
of meetings. They had to you know, accommodate their sponsors,
the people that they represent as well, and then you
know the red carpet stuff, all those things that happened
during the course of two days. It's it's it's taxing
on you. And you're right, and I got a chance.
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My obligations over. Now, let me get on that jet
and get on home and get back, you know, to
to relax and before we tee it up again on Friday.
So it was I just thought it was I thought
it was really good and it really did baseball a
good service man, because and I think baseball has turned
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a corner jonas it used to be the old man
and get off my lawn kind of league. And you know,
miles behind the NFL and NBA in terms of promoting
its players, and you know, behind on social media, behind
on all of those things. And it is it is
catching up really really fast. I got a question for you,
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what what did you think about the A B S
the use.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Of the Okay, So I like it because at least
we're still having the human element, like people want robot OMPs.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think I think Fred's a big fan of robot Like. Yeah,
like I don't know why Fred so horny over robots.
I don't know, major It's very strange. He's odd anyway,
but yeah, I don't understand, Like, like I don't know
what got him in the was it. Did the movie
Short Circuit get him in the mood back in the day,
and he's like, I'd love to see robots called balls
and Strike, but no, the A B S I like
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because it's pretty quick and there are times where close
calls and close pitches are missed, and so if you
give them an opportunity to challenge it in the moment
and it doesn't eat up too much time, I have
no issue with it. I actually thought it was kind
of cool. They go to the they go to the
review and some of those are close. I think it
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might have been even Stours in the ninth who who
questioned or went to the abs and then it turned
out no, like that did hit the zone. That was
a strikeout, So I thought that was cool. The person
who I thought had the most difficult job of anybody
was Dino Evil, who is pitching because all the pressures
on you. You know, Schuber can hit a home run, but
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if it's not right where he wants it, that's maybe
going to the warning track and that's an out. So
I thought I thought Dino getting getting the love, and
I know Vassa pointed out on social media afterwards, I
thought that was pretty That was pretty cool because that's it.
That's a nerve wreck gig.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
To make this job because you're you're expected, yes, to
put it in the right spot. But like you said,
it's not just pitching, it's not just throwing a ball
to a hitter. You got to throw it to the
right spot. And those guys will tell you I like
it low and end, I like it, you know, a
little out over the plate, a little bit uh down
in a way maybe. I mean, they tell you exactly
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where their sweet spot is and it's up to Dino
Evil to put it there. And you're right, both those
guys had all the pressure on him. But on going
back to the ABS, I also thought it was cool
to have those pictures miked up man and all the
guys miked up because Scoble said it saying, I knew
that was a strike. I knew that was a strike
when when they overturned one of the calls early in
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the game, he threw it and was like what And
immediately I forgetting started to catch it for for the
for the American League, but he had immediately tapped his helmet.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a strike. And it
turned out to be a strike, and so yeah, I
knew it. I knew that was a strike.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, it's the I'm not crazy about the guys on
Sunday Night Baseball wearing mics when they're out there, Like
we've seen a couple of times where you wonder how
much that impacted it. But for an All Star game, yeah, perfect,
awesome because you get to hear the communication, You get
to hear them talking back and forth to each other,
you get to hear sort of what's in the mindset,
and and it just takes you behind the scenes a
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little bit. So yeah, I was a big fan of
that as well too.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, I loved it. And then Kershaw Mike, did you
hear him? He was he was talking telling, telling the
audience what he was getting ready to throw before he
threw it, and he asked, yes, Smoltzi, what do you
want here, Smoltz, what do you want? He said, cut
her in, I don't have a cutter, molt slider. I'm
going slider. I don't throw a cutter. What is wrong
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with you? But yeah, overall, man, I think it was
I think it was a huge, huge success and and
and great for baseball gain. I just I'm glad they
did it. I'm glad it was a surprise at the
end with the swing off. It works. Some people were
suggesting maybe instead of playing a whole game, just do
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the swing offs.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean, isn't that with the home run DERBYUS just
got that the night before? Like you know, that would
be like basketball being like, you know what, this is great,
but the season's long, We're gonna do a dunk contest.
It's like, Okay, all of a sudden, Mac McClung is
a max player, you know, like that. That's that's where
we'll be at with that. I look, they did a
hell of a job under the circumstances, and now I
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just wonder how they parlay that into maybe changing some
things in the game.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Moving Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Hopefully it doesn't go
to Fred angle where it's all robot. Oh god, all
robot umps. All right, Jonas knocks in for Fred Rogan.
We want to hear what you think. What do you
think about the All Star Game? Did you watch it?
Did you enjoy it? What would you change if you could?
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
Oh Yes, back on a hump day Wednesday, Rodney, Pete,
Jonas Knox and coming off the All Star Game last night,
we want to hear what you think. We thought it was, Uh,
it was a home run for Major League Baseball. Part
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in the pun, but it was. It was well done.
The swing off was fantastic. We want to hear what
you think eight six six nine, eight seven two five
seventy Did you like the All Star Game? Do you
like the swing off at the end more importantly and
would you change anything? All right, let's take some calls. Jonas,
what do you think? Let's do it all right, man,
let's go, let's Chris in LA talk to me man?
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Did you like it? You know what?
Speaker 7 (20:05):
You know, I'm not a purist, but I'd like this
history of baseball. But I loved it. Man, having the
team uniforms back the way they did, and the mixture
of the entertainment and competition, micing up the players. Now, yeah,
there needs to be some adjustments like not talking to
them during the pitch, but Kershaw made up for that
by being really cool with his personality, so that was dope.
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And then the Hank Aaron tribute, you know, and then
the exciting finish, and to me, it set the bar
for the other sports. I mean, and the irony is
baseball has usually been the one with low viewership and
always dragging behind football and basketball. But as far as
an All Star game, that was like, oh my goodness,
so you know, the to me again, it set the
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tone for the other sports.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So it was.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
It was wonderful to see and I hope they continue
that because it was fun.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, thanks Chris for the call. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
He brought up something that that I totally agree with,
going back to the home and away uniform oh players.
It was such a subtle touch. But even Aaron Boone
when they were asking him later, he's like, yeah, kudos
to whoever came up with that. It was the right
they righted the wrongs of Major League Baseball in the past,
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and what's interesting. Did you think about that? And you go, oh,
it's just a jersey, big deal, Okay, But when you're
presenting something visually, you want it to be as esthetically
pleasing as possible. It's why when you do radio you
want to sound the best. In TV, you wanted to
look the best. And you've seen this over the past
few years to where even teams in the NFL, whether
it's the Bucks, the Giants, your Eagles bringing back the
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Kelly Green unis Seattle bringing back the old you're seeing
people look at that and go, oh, that's awesome, because
it's just it's a throwback to what we either grew
up with or what we remember when the game was
quote unquote great before. And that subtle touch that they
presented last night, I also thought was a really really
smart moment.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I can remember as a kid growing up, and you know,
I love the Dodgers growing up, but I would watch
the All Star Game and it was always cool to see, oh,
the Dodgers got like five players in the All Stars
and see those jerseys and see that uniform and you
can identify with those teams, and there's a lot of
pride with people from their city going, oh, we got
three guys in it. Look at those guys in that
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pirate uniform. Oh that's pretty cool, man. I love it.
And you know, so many people that watch it don't
necessarily know what teams these guys are are playing for
sometimes and and then you put the uniforms Oh yeah,
that's so and so from Toronto. Oh yeah, okay, I
got it, you know what I mean. Instead of being
that wacky whatever they come up with jersey.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
When the Pro Bowl was in Honolulu all those years,
that was one of the cool things. As you would
see the AFC was the red, the blue, the blue
one to the NFC, but every player wore the helm
helmet yeah, of whoever he played for, And so that
was the cool identifier of oh there's my favorite team.
They're represented. That guy's got the helmet on.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's one of the things that I thought was so
special and so cool about the World Series last year.
Not only did you have the two most historic franchises
in the sport in the Dodgers and the Yankees, but
you also had the classic look to where man, they're
not changing those unis like this, like there is no Hey,
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we've got to come up with an alternate because we're
slow on sales. No, no, no, this is what we do.
You either like it or you can kiss our ass, right,
And it was Dodgers Yankees, and it was presented in
a way to where it could have eight oh yeah,
like literally like go back and watch the World Series
from the eighties and you just place those in today's
and it's the same look. And I thought major League
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Baseball was smart without.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
All Right, let's go, uh, Miguel in Sun Valley, Miguel,
what'd you think of the All Star Game?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Hey, you guys doing happy Wednesday. I absolutely loved it.
Come from a big baseball family, and we enjoyed the
whole game last night, especially when it came down to
the to the swing off just seems to over take
three swing three bombs. It was amazing to see. Now,
there was one situation that sparked the big debate in
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our family when the abs movement of the absol was used.
And I think it was the ninth inning with the
Randy of Rose Arena. Yeah, the pitch that was mostly outside,
I want to say it barely plited the inside of
the zone and it sparked a big debate in my family.
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I was saying, I think the Blue had that one right.
The majority of the ball was a was a ball,
and the a BS system caught it as a strike
and it turned his well, I think it was a
one one count to a one two count and changed
the whole at bat. So I don't know what you
guys think of that.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, it's a I think I think to the larger
point to what you're saying is that if we're being honest,
and I know, it's really fun to complain because that's
just fun to do sometimes, like it just is. I
don't know why it is, Like Fred, it's it's it's fine.
Just sometimes there's nothing better than just complaining for the
sake of complaining. Okay, And I'm not speaking about any
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you know, personal relationships I have or anything like that.
I'm just talking in general as a sports fan. If
we're being fair, major League Baseball umpires get calls right,
probably at least ninety five percent, yes, and so we
get fixated on the five percent because of some of
them are brutal, and you can understand the argument. So
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having this tool brought in to where, hey, we're going
to find out and we don't need for it to
take so long. And I think what we're also going
to find out is people aren't going to be using
it as much as you think that they're going to
be using it, and if they do, they're probably not.
It's just going to be like, well, what do I
got to lose? At this point it's probably the right call,
But what do I got to lose? And you're gonna
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come to find out. Man, For as difficult as a
job as these guys have, they're pretty accurate for the
most part. And I think we see that a lot
in sports. But it's just more fun to complain.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, no, it is. It is fun to complain because
if you say, oh, that was a strike, that was
a strike, Oh no, that was and then you go
back and see the replay and it's a millimeter off
right and the guy's throwing one or two. Yeah, it's
a millimeter of Yeah, I told you. Blind as a
bat mumpire, I can't call him strike to save his life.
(26:22):
But you're right about that. They get it right most
of the time, and it's amazing how often they get
it right. And even if they're wrong, they're not wrong
by much.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No, you know, I mean like there are a grit. Look,
there's some that looks similar to it was the Naked
Gun when Leslie Nielsen's the ump and he's calling ball
center just completely out to because he's got other things
going on. Like there there are times where you look
at something and go, how that would be really really
helpful in that moment to have the ABS. But for
the most part of they could do a.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Solo Joe, Yeah they do, Yeah, they do. All right,
let's go uh a joy an Alpine, A joy? What'd
you think an All Star Game last night?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Say?
Speaker 8 (27:00):
I was going good? Ivy back Rodney. Thanks so a
couple of points. Number one, you guys touched on the
first one. I'm happy they brought the individual uniforms back.
I hated seeing the al NL stuff. It just like
you said, right, it's great to see all the people
being represented. Number two, the swing off was amazing. I
hadn't been that interested in the end of an All
Star game since it actually meant something when it was,
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you know, going for the World Series. The home field advantage,
and I thought an interesting point, even though I kind
of begudually agree with Freddy on the whole ABS system
going forward. I did think a future conversation that it's
going to be brought up is the managers and talking
to these guys in the future, who's going to get
the green light in the red light. I'm actually even
making a challenge, right, because not everybody has an eye
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like a Monthier or a Soto to really make those
judgment calls that quickly. But thanks for taking the call, guys, appreciate.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It, Appreciate it a joy. Yeah, that's interesting, you know
as they go forward, because I think it was but
the pitcher and the catcher were the only ones that
can make the call, or was it the manager involved?
How did they do it? And how did they do
in the spring training?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
You know the original rules where it was just the
players on the field. So the picture, catcher and the
batter are the only ones who can signal to the
umpire for a challenge. The dugout has no influence or
is not supposed to have influence on it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I saw an interview with both Schooble and Schemes before
before the game, and both of them were like, I
don't want to make that call. I'm gonna leave it
up to the catcher to make that call. So both
of them wanted to take themselves out of it. And
I guess the catcher probably has the better vantage point
of whether or not it's a striker or not. So
would you leave it up to your catcher? Would you say?
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Hell, no, that was right.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Look, man, there's been a lot of catchers who have
made pretty good managers. I'm gonna trust the catcher in
that spot. He knows the staff, he knows the zone,
he's working behind the plate, he's got a better view
than anybody would. He's got the view of the umpire
basically because he's he's behind home plate. I would just
leave it up to the catcher personally, like they seem
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to be the more in heligent guys on the field
from a from a baseball standpoint, strategies and what they're
looking at and have a better eye for it. Every
pitcher probably thinks, you know, that was a strike if
you ask them, all that caught the corner that caught
this snuts so that that would then that would be
a little bit of an issue. And I think what
Joe Davis had brought up and John Smoltz brought up
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when they were later in the game. Is John Smoltz
is like, hey, man, how many times is a guy
going to be adjusting his helmet and and the i'm's
gonna think he's challenging a pitch, because like you might
need to come up with a better signal than you know,
tapping the hat, because maybe a guy taps his hat
and all of a sudden they're challenging a pitch and
it throws the flow.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Of the whole routine or something.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Right, Yeah, it's so you know that that would be
that would be an interesting I could.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
See, Uh, I could see if you're leaving it up
to the catcher, right, you're the pitcher and you're leaving
it up to catcher to do the challenge. And the
catcher says, no, I'm not challenging that, and you're the
pitcher say that was a damn strike. That was all
they get after each other. Yeah, maybe you're not what
challenge that you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Have my back, Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, you get into some fights. Man, they have to
call a time out and come to the mount and
we have a visit with the manager.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I also wonder the limit on how many of those
you can, they'll come up with it you can use
in a game because you don't have to be a limit, right,
you can't. You can't just have unlimited ABS challenges like
I would think in a nine inning game two to
three times you.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Can because it goes to your point that you don't
take the human element totally out of it. There would
be strategy involved. Yeah, strategy and when you use it,
and do you you have to save one for that
ninth inning or later innings because you want to be
able to utilize that if the game is tight in
the eighth or ninth inning, and.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Whether you get it right or because we'll see it
in basketball or we'll see it in football, to where
if you get the if you get your challenge correct,
you save your time out or you save it like
I don't want any of this. Well, if you get
the challenge correct, you keep that challenge. No, like, if
you challenge it, whatever the result is, you you lose that.
Otherwise you're just gonna it's all the work they've done
to speed up the games, you're just dragging them on.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So you wouldn't give back the challenge. So you say
you got three a game, right, and you got and
you got. You you utilize two of them in the
first three innings and you got them both, right, you
wouldn't still have three, you would only have one left left.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You got one left because then, I mean, it just
adds on more time throughout the course of the game.
To me, three is enough won every three innings. Theoretically
is the way I would look at it. But I
would also do what you said. I'd keep one in
my back pocket for the ninth. I would keep one there,
and then if you go to extra innings, you know,
maybe maybe you get an extra one, but I would
(31:47):
keep one of my back pocket.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
For the ninth. Yeah. No, I agree. I think it's
the uh it's it's coming though, right, it's coming. Yes,
it's coming, and hopefully it doesn't come the way Fred
wants it, where it's just automatic all the time. But
I think it's coming, and I thought it was. I
thought it was utilized, you know well, and to your point,
having having a cap on it is, uh is certainly
(32:11):
the way to go. All right, we'll come back eight Jonas.
There was some breaking news before we came on the air.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It involves one of our local teams. Man we have
to get we have to get into that when we
come back. Jonas Knox in for Fred Rogan, AM five
seventy LA.
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Speaker 1 (32:49):
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I do, I do uh real quickly because we had
we had some breaking news before the show started, and
I think we want to, you know, just just take
a two minutes to talk about it. Bradley Beal has
just signed with the Clippers. Yeah, now, let go by
(33:57):
the Phoenix Suns, and now the Clippers have him, I
think to a two year deal, two year, eleven something
million dollar deal, a far cry from the eight hundred
million he was making. A year of Phoenix Suns. Two
year deal, good deal, good deal for the Clips or
I think I like it.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I can understand the hesitation because whatever anybody thought Phoenix
was going to be when they had him and Durant
and Devin Booker, it just that didn't work. It didn't work,
just like Damian Lillard and Milwaukee just didn't work for
whatever reason, chemistry, injuries, and so the thought would be, well,
Bradley Beal's not the same player. He's thirty two. I
(34:34):
think when he plays he's effective, good shooter and could
help a team. But what we saw in Phoenix clearly
wasn't working any dealt with the injuries. But I don't know.
I struggle with all, Right, was it the furniture or
the foundation, because he's really nice furniture, but the foundation
in Phoenix was all troubled up, and you could go
(34:55):
to even stuff in the front office and rumors and
all that stuff about what's happening there. And so I
look at it, and I go, I like it for
the Clippers. It's not going to impact you in any
of your long term plans. Whatever you thought of James Harden,
especially last year before he got to LA, he was great,
and he was durable, and he was dependable and he
(35:16):
was had a really good year, really nice year at
the Clippers, and so it is intriguing. And the other
intrigue that comes with this is the fact that you know,
this is now the second time Brook Lopez was the
first that you've had a player who had options. One
of those was the Lakers, and he chose the Clippers.
So it is kind of interesting to see how that
(35:37):
dynamic plays out. But you know, if I'm Adam Auslin,
if I'm Clipper fans, Ben Mahler, you know, Manci Bolanos,
the Fox Sports Rady, I if I'm any of these people,
I like the move because I don't think it's going
to impact you and hurt you long term now and
it's worth.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
A shot and the numbers work out, right, That's what
I mean exactly. It's not going to impact you long term,
it's not going to hurt your franchise. The guys you know,
like you mentioned he's thirty two. I believe, in let's
face it, he can score. He just can't be your
number one, He can't be your go to. But certainly
with him and Harden and Kawhi, you know, and hopefully
(36:13):
Kawhi can you know, give you, give you as many
games as he possibly can and give you more Bradley Beal.
It can be a very good addition because he can
fill it up on any given night. He can give
you thirty five forty points.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And I just wonder how much of him looked at
the situation, was like, dude, this is a disaster. It's
like oh Phoenix, yeah, oh yes, and said this is
just never gonna work. And maybe a breath of fresh air,
you know, baby playing out here into a dome, you know,
Steve Boma, the excitement sort of building around the organization.
Maybe he gets here and he finds that fountain of you,
(36:50):
so to speak. But I like the move.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah I do too, I do too. I just think,
you know, with the Clippers, it's kind of an enigma,
right they at certain times you believe that they Okay,
they're the team. They they've got And we said this
when Paul George was there, that talent wise, they should
be the favorites in the West. They should they should
(37:13):
be able to go all the way, and they just
never got there because Paul, George and Kawhi could never
stay on the court at the same time. And that's
a shame because we never we didn't get to witness that,
We didn't get to witness them at their best, you know,
so to speak. I just and we were deprived of that.
And now Paul's gone and he's in Philly, and but
(37:34):
I still think the when you talk about the foundation,
the Clippers are a very good organization. They're well run,
they know what they're doing. There's not a whole lot
of bs like you just mentioned in Phoenix. You don't
know what's going on upstairs and all that kind of
stuff going on over there. The Clippers are well run
and well funded. And I think with Bradley Beale, even
(37:58):
in Washington, he was the guy, right, he had to
be the guy. Even with Agent zero was there. He
still had to carry a lot of that load. He's
not going to be asked to do that. He's going
to be asked to, hey, you're open, give us a bucket, right,
He's not going to be asked to go out and
score forty a night. But I think he's going to
(38:18):
be a great addition to this Clipper team. I really.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean, you've played for dysfunctional organization, Yes, I have.
Like we talked about on the show this morning, myself,
LeVar and Brady, and it's like, you know, LaVar As
makes the point because he played in Washington. Listen, man,
you can't escape dysfunction. And so you'd be amazed how
much different a player may look just in a different environment,
(38:41):
or how much different their career could look just in
a different environment. And so you may be getting at
two years, eleven million dollars like this could be a
steal just based on somebody who's motivated to get away
from the crap that he was dealing with in Phoenix
and all the all the expectations, and because when those
guys got together, the thought was, oh, it's another Big three.
(39:01):
Never even close, literally never even close. And so now
he's going to get to a place where you don't
have all that, You're not gonna have all the chaos
that comes along with it, and and you're not going
to have a bunch of guys who are you know,
have all you know at podcasts and other things going on,
and they're like trying to jockey for positioning and you
know through the media and there's the blame game and all,
(39:23):
Like I look at it, I go, if I'm Bradley Beal,
I think you're going to get the best version of
him again, assuming he's healthy, the best version of him
from a mental standpoint that you've had in the past
couple of years, because he's not around all the chaos
all the time. Just Phoenix is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, yeah, definitely a disaster. Have you watched any of
a summer league at all? A little bit?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I mean a little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
It's hard for me, you know, even with the Cooper
flag stuff and him, you know, highlights every other day
you're seeing of him and yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Mean they're really look, they're really trying to they were
really trying to push that and he played what two games,
and they pulled pulled the plug on him. It's more
what I get a kick out of is the players
who aren't in the summer League that show up and
then speculation starts.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Like oh, I yeah there, yeah, like because it is
I mean, first of all, it's Vegas, so twist anybody's
arm to go to Vegas. Did they? Of course?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
By the way, I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I'm going to Vegas for the Summer League. I got
to go scout and support my team. Man, I'm gonna
be there for two weeks. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I didn't know how big the Summer League was in
Vegas until I was actually in Vegas for my buddy's
bachelor party a couple of years ago, and I was
I was still doing the Saturday Show, and so I
was walking to a venue to go meet with the
with the person that was helping me run the Saturday Show.
And as I'm walking through there, I'm like, Damn, there's
a lot of people here. And I had I had
(40:49):
no idea the buzz that the Summer League was in
Vegas until I was there Cooper Flag's debut. There were
people waiting outside the arena at five forty five in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Isn't that crazy? Yeah, It's like it's fake.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
There's so many other things to do in five in
the morning in Vegas, most notably sleep, and people are
waiting out there. The game was in tip off for
twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It was just coming home from the Strip club.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What are we doing, Like, I mean, look, so, yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
True, Holly, I didn't. I didn't say that. I didn't
say that.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
How I didn't say yeah, he was taking out of context.
That's a you know, that's a fancy editing by by Kevin.
But no, I yeah, I just so it. It's again.
It's one of these I don't know what you can
take from it because it's not an actual game, but
some of those when you get buzz in the arena,
like the ticket prices, like bad tickets for Browny versus
(41:41):
Cooper Flag or like seven hundred dollars crazy, Like okay,
I mean, say whatever you want about Bronnie. There there
is a following.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
There is a following and a definite definitely. But yeah,
I was surprised about that too, because you look up,
whether you're watching the highlights or whatever you're you're watching,
you look up and you see it is it's who's
who of NBA players that are at every one of
these games.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
They got to be there. And then the the other
part of it that I thought was funny is people like, hey,
you know, uh, lebron sitting courtside of the Summer League
with all this swirling his kid plays.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Like, who is he supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Is stay away? And I'm sure listen to Lebron knows
how this works. But his son is playing in the
Summer League. Of course he's going to show up and watch.
Of course, why wouldn't he be there?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
All right? Coming up on the other side, our man
Bob Nightingale from USA today is going to join us
talk All Star Game and second half of the Dodgers
and what that looks like. Stay with us, Jonas Knox
and for Fred Rogan, AM five seventy LA Sports