July 17, 2025 • 46 mins
As the season gets set to resume for the Dodgers tomorrow we ask - Who was the Dodgers' MVP in the first half of the season? If you recieved bad service at a restaurant, would you leave a low tip or still tip the same amount that you usually would?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
a five to seventy LA Sports, a big three hour
show for us today as we get ready to conclude
the All Star break and get back to business.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Rodney, let's go, baby, let's go. It's almost time to
get back to business. Fit to get one more day
off and then we're back at it.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All right, So here's where the Dodgers at. They're at
starting the second half of the season. They're pretty good.
They lead the division. They've had a horrific string of injuries.
I don't think many people would argue. And just know this,
here are Los Angeles. We watch them every single night. Yes,
we talk about them every single day. We know every
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single problem. I assure you the perception around the country
is quite different. What do you think it is, Oh,
that the Dodgers still spent all the money, got the
best team. They're the evil Empire, they're the big bad guys,
and that it's just unfair. I guarantee you around the country,
because we played this game. We watch MLB all the time,
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every game, and whoever hears it first raises their hand.
The visiting broadcasters in another city. It doesn't matter who's playing.
Once a game the Dodgers come up, it doesn't matter.
They could be talking about Otoni, they could be talking
about the injuries, they could be talking about the roster,
they could be talking about any number of things in
any situation, and somebody will mention the Dodgers. Cincinnati is
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playing Cleveland, the Dodgers are going to come up in
that broadcast at some point, and by virtue of the
fact that everybody seems to talk about them all the time,
in the minds of those around the country, they are
still the big bad wolf here. It's different. We know,
we know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do you think that people around the country are I
wouldn't say shocked or surprised that the Dodgers are not
totally running away with it already at the halfway point,
or do you think they look at it constructively like
we do and go, well, they've got a lot of injuries,
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and I get it, while they're not fifteen games up
in the West as supposed to five and a half
games up in the West because they've been riddled by injuries,
or do you think they just look at it, go man,
that's surprising. The Dodgers spend all that money and they
they're only five games up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think that they look at it is this, the
Dodgers are in first place. I think around the country
they look at it like this. Every game the Dodgers
are expected to win. I think around the country they
look at it like this. They don't really know about
the injuries. They actually don't even really think about how
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many games they've lost. Their expectation is that the Dodgers
will win, and that will be good for them because
then they can hate the Dodgers even more. The Dodgers
are the villains. They don't see any any crack in
the armor. The Dodgers are in first place.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's all they That's all they're listening to, right, That's
all they're looking at is Dodgers are in first place,
and they should be in first place. Oh yeah, they
should be in first place. Why wouldn't they be in
first place? Whether it's whether it's five games, whether it's
ten games, one game, whatever it is, the Dodgers are
still leading. You think that changes if the Dodgers are
behind the Giants by one game.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, Oh yeah, then I think it dramatically changes. Yeah,
they're not as good as they thought. They were. You
just can't spend all this money and winning this proves it.
What do you mean they're in a battle here? There
should be no battle. They spend so much money, they're
so far superior to every one, it shouldn't even be
an issue. That is what would happen if the Dodgers
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suddenly fell out of first place. I don't care if
they're up by thirty five games. I don't care if
they're up by a game. Around the country, people expect
the Dodgers to be in first place, and that's because
they don't watch it as closely as we do. We
know they could be fifteen games up if half the
team wasn't hurt. We pretty much are all smart enough
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here to figure that out. You know when you're when
Key k Hernandez and Mickey Rojas have probably thrown more
innings than some of the relievers on the team, we
probably got it. We know we know what it should be.
They know the Dodgers what it should be. Yeshould have
to play the game on the field. I get it,
But you know the way they've done it. And the
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remarkable thing is they are in first place despite all
the injuries. So around the country this is what people expected.
I don't think they care if they're running away with
by fifteen games, so they're up by five, they're in
first place. Here, we believe, Okay, now the best is
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yet to come. I mean, if they hadn't gone through
that that dry spell here near the end of the
first half, they could be up eight games, nine games.
But the wheels kind of came off the bus, all right.
Now they've had a couple of days to regroup, so
we know the best is yet to come. But around
the country, Rotney, I just think this was expected.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I get that. I get that,
and I think it's to your point of.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It will be.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't want to be a laughing stock or people
are waiting, and if the Dodgers start to fall, they will.
The narrative will always be, See, you just can't buy
your championship. You can't buy it, right, you know, you
just can't spend money. And we've said that, we've said that,
we were the first one to say that this could
you spend money, doesn't mean you're gonna win. You can't
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buy it. There's too many good players in Major League Baseball,
across the league and across the country when you think
about new college players coming in, high school players coming in.
We just had the MLB Draft. I mean there's good
players all around. Every team has good players on it.
You know, whether that player turns into a five hundred
million dollar guy, that remains to be seen. But every player,
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every team's got good players. And again, what your contract
is is what you can get, so it doesn't guarantee
you a championship just because you have the highest payroll,
because everybody can play. You run into a healthy Phillies
team in the playoffs that's got all their pitching staff.
That's gonna be a dog fight. I don't care what
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the Dodgers payroll is. And by the way, Phillies payroll
is right close to the Dodgers as well. They're in
the top five, but it's it's gonna be a dogfight.
They played the Mets, and the Mets is a team
that can get it hot, and we saw that last
year who the Dodgers played. So there's a number of
teams that can get hot, that can match the in
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competition because there's so many good players, and I think
people lose sight of that when they look at the
Dodgers and they look at the payrolls. The Dodgers got
all the players. No, no, there's other players that are
pretty good. We just watched the All Star Game. There's
some pretty good players around the league.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, that being said, the Dodgers looking for a few
more good players make it pretty easy trade deadline coming.
I don't know what they do about Michael CONFORDO. I
don't know. Is he better? Yeah? Is he great? No?
Do they go out and get a left handed stick? Maybe?
But the one thing they're looking at is it's funny.
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You wouldn't have thought they would need to do this.
Now they're looking for a Leevers. You're gonna why. I
mean they have trying to No, no they don't. They
have Coopek No, no, they don't. Evan Phillips, No, no,
they don't. Bruce dar Gradero. He's not back. If you
think about going into the season pitching in the bullpen restraints,
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but they have been devastated by injuries, so they'll probably
be on the market again trying to grab a reliever.
And let's not lose sight of this. Tanner Scott has
struggled and I get it's not time to worry. Yeah,
but now you can't be losing games. You cannot be
giving up leads. You cannot be losing games. Is Tanner's
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got a bag out?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do we wish him ill will? No? But is he
getting the job done the way they need him to
get the job done. No. So that's something to keep
a close eye on now because I don't know how
much you can sit with him. You have a five
and a half game lead, and that's a good size.
You know, it could have been ten, but that's a
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good size. You can't afford to start losing games now now,
you can't. Now the runway's getting a little shorter on you,
You're getting a little closer to the finish line. You've
got to be able to shut those down. Rottney, I
think Dave Roberts has a decision to make if this continues.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, where are we at July seventeenth, just had
the All Star break. I don't think it's as panic
mode as you want to make it out to be
Fred right now, and I know the trade deadline's coming up,
and they got to make a decision of what they're
going to do. In terms of Tanner Scott, I just
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can't believe that he is he has just fallen off
a cliff that hard, as opposed to it being whether
it be mechanical or him just kind of getting rejuvenated
and finding his groove, because he's too good a picture
to have what's happened to him in the first half
happened to him the rest of the season. I wouldn't
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give up on him. I'd keep trotting him out there
through July and probably the mid August to see if
he can kind of regain why they signed him. Michael Conforto,
I don't know. I think that's a different story. I
think you got to start really looking at a situation
because he did have a couple of weeks where we
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thought he turned it around and bang goes back to
the early year of Michael Conforto.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
But Tanner Scott, I.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Think you got to continue to let him go. There's
a reason why he signed a big deal. There's a
reason why so many people were after him. It's the
reason why the Dodger signed him. So you got time, Fred.
You don't have to panic right now July seventeenth to say, Okay,
we gotta we gotta replace Michael.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We got to replace.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Tanner Scott, right now we don't have to do that.
Now it comes mid August and he's still struggling, then yeah,
you gotta you gotta shuffle around the back end of
your bullpen. And maybe he doesn't pitch late in the game.
Maybe he comes in in the sixth and seventh and
you and you move Vesia back to the later endings.
I mean something like that, You shift around. But I
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don't think you turn the page on him right now.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, I just think they can't afford to lose games
that they should be winning. Now, whatever that means, they
cannot afford that that luxury has been removed from them.
Now they have to win the games they're going to win.
They're not gonna win every game. But when you're supposed
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to win and you need him to go shut this
down and close it out, you gotta win again. And
maybe it's unfair. The closer is paid for exactly one
reason to close the game. That's it. Not a position player,
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but a guy that pitches and hits, not a starting
pitcher that goes six innings. Not that one job. Go
get three outs and don't give up a run. That's
your only job. If you do that, you've done your job.
If you don't do that because it's your only job.
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Now we have a problem. And again, no one wishes
bad for him. And the best thing is he comes
out in the second half and he's lights out, and
that was just an aberration in the first half of
the season. Let's hope. Let's just hope. On the topic
of the first half, who's your MVP, Dodger wise, m
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you cannot be Oi? Otani's off the table? Why because
everybody will say Otani he pitches, he hits, So let's
just take Otani out. Now, who's the MVP? Will Smith? Yeah? Yeah,
Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
He's been the most consistent he's been actually, you know,
there were questions about his defense. His defense. You haven't
heard anything about it. His defense, you know, and him
calling the game. So yeah, I would say Will Smith
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, And because I was going to say Will Smith,
but you said him, I'll go with my second choice. Yeah, Yamamoto. Now, okay,
he got tagged a little bit recently. Last couple starts,
he's but then he came back. He was good the
last time. Yeah, he was good against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
He was great against the Giants, by the way, until
Tanner Scott gave up the two run home run.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah exactly, Uh yeah, I get an agree from a
from a hitting perspective. Overall, I think it's Will Smith. Yeah,
I would. I would.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was almost going to if we take the last
but two weeks, three weeks out of it, I was
going to say, uh Andy Pies, Andy pai has you know,
but he struggled the last couple of weeks going into it.
You know, I looked this up for that was it was.
It was interesting to me, and you'll get a kick
out of this. The highest when we talked about Dodge
and their salary and they just bought the team the
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ten highest plate paid players in Major League Baseball this year.
This is based on their salaries and what they're making
this year. Okay, the Dodgers have two, which is Shoe
Otani and Blake Snell in the top ten and then
Blake's you know, over time, but this year's salary is high, Okay,
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five sixty five million. The Yankees have two, Aaron Judge
and Garrett Cole. The Phillies have two, Zach Wheeler and
Bryce Harper, which you know, Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies. We all
expect that, right, to have two of those guys in
the top ten. You know who else has two guys
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in the top ten?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What do match Mets have one? This is one Soto? Okay,
all right, let me see who else. I'm gonna tell
you who. I think just the way I'm looking at
your face, So now I know who it is. Is
it the Angels? Yeah? Yes, Trout and Rendon?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes, yes, you guys in the top ten of the
top highest paid guys this year.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Trout and rendon't do how can that even be? I'll
get that possibility. Well, one guy doesn't even play, right.
I am just to god, this is terrible. But I
forgot Anthony Rendome was even on the team.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You don't even hear him. You don't even see him.
You don't do don't get it. The last memory we
have Anthony Rendon is him going at a fan, right?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean he's not even is he around? He's getting paid?
Is he so injured that he doesn't even come around?
That is really weird. If you look at the Dodgers,
when a guy gets hurt, you see him. He's in
the dugout. Yeah, he shows up. He's in the dugout
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with the guys Anthony Rendon Does he even live here anymore?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, yeah, we know how much he didn't like southern California, right,
he didn't really want to be a Dodger because of
the Hollywood thing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So he may not live here anymore. I mean does
he work out, does he try to get into shape?
Has he just called it already? Because this is it? Right?
This is the end for him? I think this is
the final year. Yeah, Kevin, there's not one more for
Anthony Rendona? Is please tell me, no, Kevin, there can't
be There can't be one more. This has got to
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be it for him. Where is he? I don't even
know where he is.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, for he is away from the team and has
been since the start of the season. And this is
indeed the final year of his contract?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, is anybody gonna miss him?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Actually, you know what? I misspoke? He has one year
left after this. No, you can't miss somebody who's not there, Fred, So.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Wait a minute, No, he doesn't. He has one more year, Yes,
one more year left.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Twenty twenty six. It'll make thirty eight and a half
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, let's just bet right now. So he's getting paid
for another year? Is he going to play next year?
Do you think he'll play? It's highly unlikely. He's had
the whole season to get to recover from whatever he has.
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Do you think he'll play next year? And you're saying
highly unlikely.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Thirty four years old hip surgery on top of many
other surgeries and these and other things over the last
couple of years. Even if he were to play, how
effective would he be? Considering how in effect if he
was when he played anyway for the Angels from day one?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
How many games has he played?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Give me a second, I can get that on, all right,
I'll try to out.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, we're getting ready to start the second half and
he's not even a factor.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, he's out of side, out of mind, to be
honest with you, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Making thirty eight this year, he's making thirty eight five
next year. I just I wonder you know, guys aren't petty.
Nobody wants to get in anybody's money when you're on
a team. But I guarantee you those guys in that
clubhouse are looking at him sideways. If they guarantee you,
they are looking at him sideways when he enters the building.
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Because of that reason right there, Fred that he's not there,
he's not around, he's out of sight. He's a guy
that's you know, guys want to see a guy working
to get back on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
If you can be in Florida working out, that's that's great.
But you got to come back to Anaheim and show
your face and make sure guys see you busting your
ass to try to get back on the field. Otherwise
there's gonna be some resentment going on. And I'm sure
there is down there with the Angels with him.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Do you think there are guys on the team that
have never met him?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
There's absolutely guys who probably haven't met.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Because was here. Was he there doing spring training at all?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No, He has surgery in the offseason, I believe in
December or January, and the team announced in February that
he was going to be.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Out long term.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So so before camp even started, he wasn't. They knew
he was going to be out, if not for the
entire season, at least a majority of it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Does he even have a locker? That's a good question.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Why is a waste of space?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Somebody that guy that that dressed up like oldtany go
down and sit in front of his locker like rundme.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Or don't be a part of the team picture.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Oh, they hire that same guy and just super impose
his face.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
On him, superimposing.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And yeah, so, by the way, so if you don't
count the COVID year which he played fifty two games,
and that was only a sixty game season, since then,
fifty eight, forty seven, forty three, last season fifty seven,
is he hasn't even Yeah, he hasn't even sniffed eighty games,
one hundred games.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wow, he's got played in fifty percent of the games.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
More than fifty Brodney, he's not played.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
In more than He's not played in more than sixty
games his entire tenure.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Wow, that's no return on an investment. Fred, It is
for him. It's for him. Oh man, all right, Dodger fans,
who is your MVP in this first half? Rodney? Throughout?
Will Smith? And I think it was a good call.
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Uh you know, drop Andy Paie has in there. Andy
Pie has had a hell of a first half, struggled
a bit at the end, but you cannot dismiss that.
I went with my second choice, and I said, yeah,
I'm a moto. But Dodger fans, who do you think
is the MVP of the first half? Eight six six
nine eighty seven two five seventy eight six six nine
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eight seven two five seventy. Let's hear your MVP next?
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Speaker 1 (21:30):
Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. That's
the number. Here's the question. First half, Dodger fans, first half,
you tell us who the MVP is? Rodney Headwill Smith,
I had Yamamoto. PI has snuck in there as well.
But you watch every game, you listen to every game,
you probably know as much as anybody that covers the team.
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So who is your MVP in this first half of
the season, and can you tell us why we're going
to Santa Clarita, Tony, thanks for holding Who is your MVP?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
It's gotta be Pa Haz because he's a long term guy.
He could be on the Dodgers for the next ten years.
We already know about Will Smith, but now we've got
a guaranteed fielder for the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He's like Chris Tae, but he's he your MVP of
this season, though I know he's gonna be here for
the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We hopefully he is, because I think he's gonna get
better every year.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Doesn't he have as much RBIs as Otani? I think
he does, and he doesn't have as many runs as Otani.
He has as much RBIs. I think it's really close,
and so I think they actually move him up to
batting order. He needs to go up. And I think
it'd be better if Pa Haz was lead off and
Otani was clean up like Chris Taylor. Back when Chris
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Taylor and Bellinger, it was Taylor was leadoff and Bellinger
was clean up. It's like Pa Haz could be like
Taylor and Otani b Bellinger.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, to thank you. That's interesting, right, appreciate it, Tony,
But he's got any pie has as his MV not
to God, not a bad pick.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Not like you said. He took a little step back
the last couple of weeks, but for the most part,
from I think from mid April on, he has been
so consistent, so consistent, and hit some had some big
hits for the Dodgers too. Okay, let's go Peter in Corona.
All right, Peter, who is your MVP of the first half?
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Man, it was Max Monsey.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
When Max went down.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
That's when we lost seven games in a row.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
He carried us through June.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, what did he do in April and May?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
He did not do much, but he certainly made out
for it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, he's gotta be the totality of gotta be a totality, right.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He's gotta be April, May, June and half of July. Yeah,
he's not. He's not the guy from Milwaukee who was
an All Star after pitching five games, right. Yeah. A
good month is not going to cut it for you know,
for MVP. Yeah. Yeah, But I will say this, and
it's a valid point. When Max got hot, he got hot. Yeah,
he did. It wasn't kind of simmering. He caught fire.
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He exploded. Yeah, he did. Got hurt. That has been
a loss, So, Peter, that is a very good point. Uh,
let's go to Carlsbad Jim, appreciate you holding eight six six,
nine eighty seven, two seventy. Uh your MVP of the
first half. Jim, who do you like?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
It's got to be Will Smith. I mean, he's leading
the National League in batting average. I believe he leads
Major League Baseball with the highest average with runners in
scoring position. And then look at his work behind the
plate with all the different pitchers this year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, he's just a model of consistency one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I agree with you. That's why I picked him as well.
Great minds think alike. You're absolutely right Will Smith, Will Smith,
without a doubt, hands down. You know what's interesting, we
didn't and thanks for the call, Freddie Freeman. We didn't
even throw out him out there. And I know he
struggled and that and maybe that's why it's kind of
similar with has that Freddie struggled over the last what
three weeks Because Freddy for the most part, for most
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of the season, Freddy was leading an average, and I
think he was leading in doubles.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean he was, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
He was knocking the cover off the ball, and I
think he was in like three p fifty three sixty.
He and Judge would go back and forth in terms
of average, and he just dipped a little bit below
three hundred now because he's been in this tremendous slump
over the last three weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But nobody mentioned Freddy yet. No. I think he got
tacked with the slump. Yeah, I think that's what got him.
It's a six ninety seven two five seventy off. We
go to the east coast on the app. Here he
comes Gino.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Hello, Gino, and jentlemen, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're fine? Geno, oh good.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I picked Smith. But I have a question because because
they lost so much and that happens, I understand that,
and we're just at a bad time with mookim Freddy
for sure. Has anybody challenged the batting coach. I'm just
curious other than Smith, he's doing great. Freddy was at
three seventy six and he just totally dropped off the map.
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Hopefully they'll both get back.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, wait, let me ask you this when you say,
has anybody challenged the batting coach the hitting coach, and
what would you like someone to say to the hitting coach.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I played baseball when I was a kid. I'm not
a professional baseball player. Somebody challenge him, or challenge the players,
especially the three main players. Show he's okay, but he
strikes out a lot, big deal, he's got home runs.
We wanted that, right, but show hey, come as second
coach if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Now, so here's the deal. You fire the hitting coach
when you need a scapegoat. That's when the hitting coach
gets fired any team, somebody's got to get it. These
guys are hitting, we're gonna fire him.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean, what do you say when Freddy's hitting was
in three seventy six and Paez was on fire and
Freddie was you know, uh or Otani was on fire
and guys were, you know, knocking to cover off the
ball for three for three months. You got to give
him credit for that as well. Right, there's gonna be
ebbs and flows in the season. But at the end
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of the day, it's not the hitting coach. He's not hitting,
He's not to play.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right by the way, in the midst of all these
guys slumping, the Dodgers are still first or second in
every major offensive category team average, home runs, triples, doubles,
all of that. They're right up there with the Yankees
in cups. So you're not firing Robert van Skoyak or
anybody else on the hitting staff just based on the
team numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, but look at that, Kevin for a second,
look at the team numbers hitting wise. Okay, look at
the number of wins the team has. Look at their
place in the standings here, and it makes my point
from the first segment here, you know all of this,
and you're like, oh god, they're not hitting, Moukie's not
having a great year. Around the country, they know one thing,
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The Dodgers are in first place. If the Dodgers are
in first place, that's what they know. They don't know
all of this. And isn't it even more remarkable, given
that Freddy's been slumping, Mookie's not been great, o Tony's
been hot and cold, they're in first place.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I think that would give credence to the evil Empire
people who say that that look at this, Look at
how much their pisching staff has been decimated all season.
Three of the great players in the sport of the
last decade are all struggling at the same time. And
despite all that, they have a five game lead in
the NL West, and despite all that their tops in
the majors in offensive production. They might use that and say, like,
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this is what you get with the Dodgers. All the
guys they paid and they're still good, They're still mashing. Yeah,
that's the way people will look at it is that
they have they have all these big name guys who
are struggling, and they still find a way to win. Now,
that's a credit to just the organizational depth.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Absolutely, and scouting and and guys that they bring in.
You know, everybody. You know, other people had a chance
to get Piz. Other people had a chance to get
Tommy Edmond, who's struggling as well. But they had chances
to get these guys. They could have signed Tayo Hernandez
two years ago. Absolutely, those guys aren't making three hundred
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million dollars, So everybody had a chance to get those guys,
but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They could have picked Dalton Rushing, They could have signed
Kim Yeah, could have drafted Amachian.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All of that been conspirabus. Absolutely who's been great for them.
By the way, wait a minute, I just looked out
the window. I see Jack Dryer warming up out in
the street. Now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Thought you thought he was coming in the All Star Game,
didn't you. He was set to go. He was looking
for Dave Robers to call him God pictures up her game.
But anybody could have signed him. Yeah, how about Alex
Vesu you Yeah, somebody could have signed him, could have
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drafted him. These guys are out there. So just because
the Dodgers spent all of this money, the guys that
make all of the money are struggling fair, fair, and
they're five and a half games up, And at the
end of the day, that's all that matters. How much
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do you tip? And if the service is bad, do
you tip it all? Let's break it down.
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
All right, Uh, we kind of touched on this in
the past. I think everybody listening has an opinion on it.
Are you a good tip of Rodney when you go
out to eat.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm a very good tipper, and if and if I'm
not paying the bill, I always double back and check
to make sure whoever's paying the bill gave a good tip,
and if they didn't, I'll kind of slip them something
else in there. Because it's very important to me, very
very important to me. A couple of reasons for this.
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I think first, because you're a good person. You understand
people are working hard.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah. The other side of it is people know you, true,
and that's a big part of it. Oh yeah, people
know you. So you can't go in there and stiff
somebody because if you do, you know what's going to happen.
People are going to talk.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's funny you say that because we were not to
go back to the trip. But one of the one
of the unwritten rules of our trip, when we go
on with Maggie, if we go out to dinner, one
of the couples pays, right, so Magic Cookie don't pay.
They bring us so they pay for everything basically, But
when we go out to dinner in the town, one
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of the couples is responsible for paying, and you can
he will always double check and double back to make
sure that you not he's not even looking to see
if you left the tip. But he'll also always throw
more money into it, throw cash on top of what
you already tips.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just because of that reason you just said.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
They know he was in there and regardless of us,
nobody knows me from a can of payt in Italy,
but they know him and he will make sure that
the tip is right, So you're right.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
People know you. Oh you have to you have to
tip now you do because you're a good person. And
if you're in the service indust it's a tough way
to make a living. A lot of hours, a lot
of it is tip based, so that's how you earn
your living. And also, if you're a server, you better
than anyone understand this. You could do the best job
in the world and there could be things out of
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your control. Kitchen could be really backed up, something could
come out incorrectly, and you're sort of the ambassador. You're
the middleman. All complaints run through you. You didn't cook it,
but you're gonna hear about it. Something an order is wrong,
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you're gonna hear about it. So here's the story. God
goes into a restaurant and uh, does not have a
very good time. Does not have a very good time.
The waitress allegedly lost his drink twice, brought him and
his girlfriend the wrong appetizer, vanished for what seemed like
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an eternity when they wanted to order dessert. Okay, and
maybe we've all been through that. It's not a great
night of service anyway. Now it's time for the tip, Rodney,
what do you usually tip? What percentage? I'll tell you
what I tip. We tip twenty percent, always twenty percent
of the bill.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The floor is twenty and if it's really good, it'll
go I can do thirty. Sometimes I'll go higher on that,
but at the very least it's twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Twenty percent of the tip or twenty percent of the bill. Good.
So anyway, this guy has a terrible night, awful night,
just really did not have a good night out. Now,
he didn't tip nothing. He tipped ten percent, ten percent.
The waitress goes over, looks at it and sees the
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tip is ten percent. She starts yelling at him, call
him a cheapskate, telling him, you know that he's wrong.
He doesn't understand what are you doing. He then takes
the ten percent, walks out. He tips nothing, He just
walks out.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Wait, she started yelling at him because he saw it
was ten percent, and then he picked it up. Yeah,
after that, he picked it up and said, Okay, you're
yelling at me. You're not even gonna get to ten
percent exactly. Now what do you think of that story?
M Well, I gotta get more of the story because
if the waitress was horrible and rude and whatever, they
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don't deserve a tip.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
See, that's the dilemma, and that's I think what everybody faces.
You want to take care of people that take care
of you, and sometimes things are out of the service control.
So even if there's a problem, they can do the
best they can to correct it, but they can't. Again,
my steak is cold, but.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's the that's not the server, or it's the steak
is not the way I ordered it. That's not necessarily
the waitress or the waiter. It's the chef or the kitchen, right,
So you gotta I mean, you really got to figure
out where that came from. Now, if the server is
just been rude and takes forever to come get your
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order and gets your your stuff wrong and all those
type of things, and then you have every right, but
you got to really figure out where the blame goes
before you take that away, right, Because any food is cold,
that's not necessarily on the server. Yeah, Or your state
is not cooked, not cooked well enough and you wanted it,
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you know, medium, and it came out rare, that's not
on the server.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Right. So here's the thing. The guy leaves ten percent,
She yells at him. He gets up and he walks out.
I think the frustration is this, even if you're an
experience and the server did not have a good night,
didn't have a good night, really wasn't attentive, maybe had
too many tables and was running and was stretched too thin,
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maybe just wasn't very good. If you leave less than
twenty percent, even if the service is bad, I think
you look like you're cheap. I think they would complain
to you and say this is the minimum for the
worst serf. It's twenty percent. Now conversely, you would think,
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as you said, hell, I'll give you forty percent if
it's been the greatest evening ever. Why should people be
tipped if their service wasn't good? Should should you be
obligated to tip someone if the service wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I'll say this too. And there's a number of establishments
that actually have suggested tips listed on the bill. The
lowest I've seen is ten. Usually it's ten, fifteen, twenty.
So if someone is like.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Well, twenty two in there now, usually a lot of
it is twenty two. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So a lot of places even said so, I think
this guy who has the gripe with the server is like,
well it was so bad, I'm gonna leave you something
and not nothing at all, but I'm going to leave
you the very least amount that would be considered by
something to be quote unquote respectable. I guess if the
restaurant is suggesting this as a as a floor, I'm
only going to give you the floor, because that's how
I felt like I was trying.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You think most people nowadays know that servers they make
their money on tips. I mean they get a minimum
salary basically, but their money is made on tips. Yes,
you think most people know that?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people make it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
It's legal, not like under minimum wage for whatever state
you're in a lot of states, two or three bucks
an hour, because it's assumed you're gonna make most of
your money on tips.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's like if you go to Starbucks, all right, or
to your drink, they'll flip the thing around. How much
do you want to tip us?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Mm?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Hmm, one buck, five bucks, nine bucks, whatever? And you feel,
my god, I should the thing's right in front of me.
What am I going to say? No tip? Yeah, but
I'm in essence giving you a tip for saying what
do you want? Yeah, you're not doing anything but talking
to me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You go to the airport now, and then you know
they have everybody's everything's automated, right, They have the little
machines there, and before you can pay, you go grab
some candy and grab you know, some mints and maybe
you know some medicine or you know whatever, and you
take it to the counter and you put your card in,
it'll say tip on there ten percent, twenty percent, eighteen percent,
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twenty two percent. I'm like, you didn't serve me. I
went and got this from the shelf. Why am I
tipping you? But you feel bad because it's right in
front of you.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
That's social pressure and they're sitting they're sitting there staring
at you.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Sitting there staring at you. What are you gonna do
because you can't go, You can't just bypass it. You
got to say something.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh no, or it'll say no tip, no tip. And
if you do, no tip. And by the way, if
you go take something off the shelf, walk it up there,
hand it to somebody and they wring it up and
it turns around and there it is in front of you.
Or you just put your card in and it's right there,
but somebody's watching it. If you're gonna hit the no tip,
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you kind of want to kind of lean over and
block it. You want to kind of go side shoulder
into it and just hit the button and no tip
and a turning around will fast so nobody can see it. Right, Yeah,
you don't want anybody, you know you don't. But shouldn't
it be that you know you're tipping based on the
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service in theory, Kevin, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I would generally tip based on the server. Usually I
would do bare minimum of fifteen. Typically I do twenty,
just like you guys do. But I also, thankfully, I
guess knock on Wood have not had such ungodly terrible
service where I wouldn't consider having a tip that low.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
So what about what about the counter where the thing
says you want to tip?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
It depends. I've definitely done no tip in the past.
I refuse to crack to the social pressure of that.
If I know somebody literally sat there press two buttons
and say leave me a tip, I'd say for what,
with all due respect that that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Don't say for what? But no, no, I don't for what.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, and no one has challenged me on it. They
don't say anything to me. But I just had no
tip and keep on pushing. It does not bother me
one bit.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I did.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I was feeling in a mood one time and I
did that to the to the person behind the thing.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Thank god it was. It was a person that's like, yeah,
I know, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
We didn't do anything and they're asking for a tip
before we can move on with the transaction. But I questioned,
I said why what I don't I was just fed
up at one point, I said, what I don't understand.
Why is there I literally grabbed three things myself, brought
it to you, and all you did was pushed two buttons?
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So why why is there a Why is there a
tip promo on this machine? Yeah, that's just the way
they set it up, and uh, they're trying to take
care of blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
It was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
It was very honest about it, but yeah, I get it.
I get it if you don't because we didn't really
do anything. He was very nice about it. But I'm
sure there are other people going cheap skate. You don't
want to tip us or we're working back here behind
the counter, and you know it's a thankless job. We're
working at the airport, or we're working somewhere and you
don't want to tip us.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
What do you guys think about the tips that are
already factored into the bill?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Not the biggest fan, to be honest. I do you
understand why some businesses do it?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, because there are chief skates out there. Yeah, Ronnie,
what do you think? No?
Speaker 8 (43:33):
I don't like it either, Fred, And going back to
the whole tipping thing, I find this a Dodger Stadium.
You know, I'm going buying a twenty dollars beer at
Dodger Stadium. They flip the thing around and they want
me to tip. I don't tip, right, I just hit
pay and walk away.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I feel like the grab and go when you walk by,
you grab arab behind me.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
And to Kevin and Rodney's point, I mean you didn't
do anything. You just you hit a button and you
flip the screen around. I'll take my beer and leave
doll beer anyway.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Do you think the people sitting there are mad if
you don't tip the person that's at that stop, that location.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
Doesn't seem that way to me.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Fred, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I've not really felt that because I've done it a
couple of times where I've just like it's hit, just pay,
not not tip. When I've done everything myself, I haven't
really ran across anybody that got offended by not tipping
if if they didn't do anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But but the whole tipping thing.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
When you get a bill in certain restaurants, you get
a bill, it's gratuity included. Like like here's a here's
the thing. If you stay in a hotel and you
own a room service that is always there, and a
lot of people that that bring the room service to
you don't tell you that. They don't tell you gratuity included.
They just let it go and and there's a tip
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line and all that kind of stuff, but they don't
tell you, hey, hey, gratuity is included. And I always
love the people that say it, Hey, listen, all you
got to do is sign because gratuity is included. I
always tip when when they say that and let me
know up up up front, I was like, okay, let
me give you a little something extra for that. That's
if they don't say anything, I just sign it and
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go see because those people are honest.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah right, so you take care of them. But it's
the ones that try to deceive you.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, you know, you know, you know it says it
right there, gratuity included.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
The problem is with those room service things. If you're
in a hotel and a room serface, you're not gonna
sit there and look at the bill. You're just gonna
find over yeah tip, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And people they bank on that, they bank on those
guys bank on you not even reading that, and they
just say, Okay, there's a tip line. You're gonna put
some extra money in this, all right?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
What do you all start breaking? Baseball? Closing in in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Rodney, let's go, baby, let's go. It's almost time to
get back to business. Fit to get one more day
off and then we're back at it.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All right, So here's where the Dodgers at. They're at
starting the second half of the season. They're pretty good.
They lead the division. They've had a horrific string of injuries.
I don't think many people would argue. And just know this,
here are Los Angeles. We watch them every single night. Yes,
we talk about them every single day. We know every
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single problem. I assure you the perception around the country
is quite different. What do you think it is, Oh,
that the Dodgers still spent all the money, got the
best team. They're the evil Empire, they're the big bad guys,
and that it's just unfair. I guarantee you around the country,
because we played this game. We watch MLB all the time,
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every game, and whoever hears it first raises their hand.
The visiting broadcasters in another city. It doesn't matter who's playing.
Once a game the Dodgers come up, it doesn't matter.
They could be talking about Otoni, they could be talking
about the injuries, they could be talking about the roster,
they could be talking about any number of things in
any situation, and somebody will mention the Dodgers. Cincinnati is
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playing Cleveland, the Dodgers are going to come up in
that broadcast at some point, and by virtue of the
fact that everybody seems to talk about them all the time,
in the minds of those around the country, they are
still the big bad wolf here. It's different. We know,
we know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do you think that people around the country are I
wouldn't say shocked or surprised that the Dodgers are not
totally running away with it already at the halfway point,
or do you think they look at it constructively like
we do and go, well, they've got a lot of injuries,
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and I get it, while they're not fifteen games up
in the West as supposed to five and a half
games up in the West because they've been riddled by injuries,
or do you think they just look at it, go man,
that's surprising. The Dodgers spend all that money and they
they're only five games up.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think that they look at it is this, the
Dodgers are in first place. I think around the country
they look at it like this. Every game the Dodgers
are expected to win. I think around the country they
look at it like this. They don't really know about
the injuries. They actually don't even really think about how
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many games they've lost. Their expectation is that the Dodgers
will win, and that will be good for them because
then they can hate the Dodgers even more. The Dodgers
are the villains. They don't see any any crack in
the armor. The Dodgers are in first place.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's all they That's all they're listening to, right, That's
all they're looking at is Dodgers are in first place,
and they should be in first place. Oh yeah, they
should be in first place. Why wouldn't they be in
first place? Whether it's whether it's five games, whether it's
ten games, one game, whatever it is, the Dodgers are
still leading. You think that changes if the Dodgers are
behind the Giants by one game.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, Oh yeah, then I think it dramatically changes. Yeah,
they're not as good as they thought. They were. You
just can't spend all this money and winning this proves it.
What do you mean they're in a battle here? There
should be no battle. They spend so much money, they're
so far superior to every one, it shouldn't even be
an issue. That is what would happen if the Dodgers
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suddenly fell out of first place. I don't care if
they're up by thirty five games. I don't care if
they're up by a game. Around the country, people expect
the Dodgers to be in first place, and that's because
they don't watch it as closely as we do. We
know they could be fifteen games up if half the
team wasn't hurt. We pretty much are all smart enough
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here to figure that out. You know when you're when
Key k Hernandez and Mickey Rojas have probably thrown more
innings than some of the relievers on the team, we
probably got it. We know we know what it should be.
They know the Dodgers what it should be. Yeshould have
to play the game on the field. I get it,
But you know the way they've done it. And the
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remarkable thing is they are in first place despite all
the injuries. So around the country this is what people expected.
I don't think they care if they're running away with
by fifteen games, so they're up by five, they're in
first place. Here, we believe, Okay, now the best is
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yet to come. I mean, if they hadn't gone through
that that dry spell here near the end of the
first half, they could be up eight games, nine games.
But the wheels kind of came off the bus, all right.
Now they've had a couple of days to regroup, so
we know the best is yet to come. But around
the country, Rotney, I just think this was expected.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I get that. I get that,
and I think it's to your point of.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It will be.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't want to be a laughing stock or people
are waiting, and if the Dodgers start to fall, they will.
The narrative will always be, See, you just can't buy
your championship. You can't buy it, right, you know, you
just can't spend money. And we've said that, we've said that,
we were the first one to say that this could
you spend money, doesn't mean you're gonna win. You can't
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buy it. There's too many good players in Major League Baseball,
across the league and across the country when you think
about new college players coming in, high school players coming in.
We just had the MLB Draft. I mean there's good
players all around. Every team has good players on it.
You know, whether that player turns into a five hundred
million dollar guy, that remains to be seen. But every player,
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every team's got good players. And again, what your contract
is is what you can get, so it doesn't guarantee
you a championship just because you have the highest payroll,
because everybody can play. You run into a healthy Phillies
team in the playoffs that's got all their pitching staff.
That's gonna be a dog fight. I don't care what
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the Dodgers payroll is. And by the way, Phillies payroll
is right close to the Dodgers as well. They're in
the top five, but it's it's gonna be a dogfight.
They played the Mets, and the Mets is a team
that can get it hot, and we saw that last
year who the Dodgers played. So there's a number of
teams that can get hot, that can match the in
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competition because there's so many good players, and I think
people lose sight of that when they look at the
Dodgers and they look at the payrolls. The Dodgers got
all the players. No, no, there's other players that are
pretty good. We just watched the All Star Game. There's
some pretty good players around the league.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, that being said, the Dodgers looking for a few
more good players make it pretty easy trade deadline coming.
I don't know what they do about Michael CONFORDO. I
don't know. Is he better? Yeah? Is he great? No?
Do they go out and get a left handed stick? Maybe?
But the one thing they're looking at is it's funny.
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You wouldn't have thought they would need to do this.
Now they're looking for a Leevers. You're gonna why. I
mean they have trying to No, no they don't. They
have Coopek No, no, they don't. Evan Phillips, No, no,
they don't. Bruce dar Gradero. He's not back. If you
think about going into the season pitching in the bullpen restraints,
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but they have been devastated by injuries, so they'll probably
be on the market again trying to grab a reliever.
And let's not lose sight of this. Tanner Scott has
struggled and I get it's not time to worry. Yeah,
but now you can't be losing games. You cannot be
giving up leads. You cannot be losing games. Is Tanner's
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got a bag out?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Do we wish him ill will? No? But is he
getting the job done the way they need him to
get the job done. No. So that's something to keep
a close eye on now because I don't know how
much you can sit with him. You have a five
and a half game lead, and that's a good size.
You know, it could have been ten, but that's a
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good size. You can't afford to start losing games now now,
you can't. Now the runway's getting a little shorter on you,
You're getting a little closer to the finish line. You've
got to be able to shut those down. Rottney, I
think Dave Roberts has a decision to make if this continues.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, where are we at July seventeenth, just had
the All Star break. I don't think it's as panic
mode as you want to make it out to be
Fred right now, and I know the trade deadline's coming up,
and they got to make a decision of what they're
going to do. In terms of Tanner Scott, I just
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can't believe that he is he has just fallen off
a cliff that hard, as opposed to it being whether
it be mechanical or him just kind of getting rejuvenated
and finding his groove, because he's too good a picture
to have what's happened to him in the first half
happened to him the rest of the season. I wouldn't
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give up on him. I'd keep trotting him out there
through July and probably the mid August to see if
he can kind of regain why they signed him. Michael Conforto,
I don't know. I think that's a different story. I
think you got to start really looking at a situation
because he did have a couple of weeks where we
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thought he turned it around and bang goes back to
the early year of Michael Conforto.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
But Tanner Scott, I.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Think you got to continue to let him go. There's
a reason why he signed a big deal. There's a
reason why so many people were after him. It's the
reason why the Dodger signed him. So you got time, Fred.
You don't have to panic right now July seventeenth to say, Okay,
we gotta we gotta replace Michael.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
We got to replace.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Tanner Scott, right now we don't have to do that.
Now it comes mid August and he's still struggling, then yeah,
you gotta you gotta shuffle around the back end of
your bullpen. And maybe he doesn't pitch late in the game.
Maybe he comes in in the sixth and seventh and
you and you move Vesia back to the later endings.
I mean something like that, You shift around. But I
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don't think you turn the page on him right now.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, I just think they can't afford to lose games
that they should be winning. Now, whatever that means, they
cannot afford that that luxury has been removed from them.
Now they have to win the games they're going to win.
They're not gonna win every game. But when you're supposed
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to win and you need him to go shut this
down and close it out, you gotta win again. And
maybe it's unfair. The closer is paid for exactly one
reason to close the game. That's it. Not a position player,
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but a guy that pitches and hits, not a starting
pitcher that goes six innings. Not that one job. Go
get three outs and don't give up a run. That's
your only job. If you do that, you've done your job.
If you don't do that because it's your only job.
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Now we have a problem. And again, no one wishes
bad for him. And the best thing is he comes
out in the second half and he's lights out, and
that was just an aberration in the first half of
the season. Let's hope. Let's just hope. On the topic
of the first half, who's your MVP, Dodger wise, m
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you cannot be Oi? Otani's off the table? Why because
everybody will say Otani he pitches, he hits, So let's
just take Otani out. Now, who's the MVP? Will Smith? Yeah? Yeah,
Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
He's been the most consistent he's been actually, you know,
there were questions about his defense. His defense. You haven't
heard anything about it. His defense, you know, and him
calling the game. So yeah, I would say Will Smith
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, And because I was going to say Will Smith,
but you said him, I'll go with my second choice. Yeah, Yamamoto. Now, okay,
he got tagged a little bit recently. Last couple starts,
he's but then he came back. He was good the
last time. Yeah, he was good against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
He was great against the Giants, by the way, until
Tanner Scott gave up the two run home run.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah exactly, Uh yeah, I get an agree from a
from a hitting perspective. Overall, I think it's Will Smith. Yeah,
I would. I would.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was almost going to if we take the last
but two weeks, three weeks out of it, I was
going to say, uh Andy Pies, Andy pai has you know,
but he struggled the last couple of weeks going into it.
You know, I looked this up for that was it was.
It was interesting to me, and you'll get a kick
out of this. The highest when we talked about Dodge
and their salary and they just bought the team the
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ten highest plate paid players in Major League Baseball this year.
This is based on their salaries and what they're making
this year. Okay, the Dodgers have two, which is Shoe
Otani and Blake Snell in the top ten and then
Blake's you know, over time, but this year's salary is high, Okay,
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five sixty five million. The Yankees have two, Aaron Judge
and Garrett Cole. The Phillies have two, Zach Wheeler and
Bryce Harper, which you know, Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies. We all
expect that, right, to have two of those guys in
the top ten. You know who else has two guys
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in the top ten?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What do match Mets have one? This is one Soto? Okay,
all right, let me see who else. I'm gonna tell
you who. I think just the way I'm looking at
your face, So now I know who it is. Is
it the Angels? Yeah? Yes, Trout and Rendon?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes, yes, you guys in the top ten of the
top highest paid guys this year.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Trout and rendon't do how can that even be? I'll
get that possibility. Well, one guy doesn't even play, right.
I am just to god, this is terrible. But I
forgot Anthony Rendome was even on the team.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You don't even hear him. You don't even see him.
You don't do don't get it. The last memory we
have Anthony Rendon is him going at a fan, right?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean he's not even is he around? He's getting paid?
Is he so injured that he doesn't even come around?
That is really weird. If you look at the Dodgers,
when a guy gets hurt, you see him. He's in
the dugout. Yeah, he shows up. He's in the dugout
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with the guys Anthony Rendon Does he even live here anymore?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, yeah, we know how much he didn't like southern California, right,
he didn't really want to be a Dodger because of
the Hollywood thing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So he may not live here anymore. I mean does
he work out, does he try to get into shape?
Has he just called it already? Because this is it? Right?
This is the end for him? I think this is
the final year. Yeah, Kevin, there's not one more for
Anthony Rendona? Is please tell me, no, Kevin, there can't
be There can't be one more. This has got to
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be it for him. Where is he? I don't even
know where he is.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, for he is away from the team and has
been since the start of the season. And this is
indeed the final year of his contract?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, is anybody gonna miss him?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Actually, you know what? I misspoke? He has one year
left after this. No, you can't miss somebody who's not there, Fred, So.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Wait a minute, No, he doesn't. He has one more year, Yes,
one more year left.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Twenty twenty six. It'll make thirty eight and a half
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, let's just bet right now. So he's getting paid
for another year? Is he going to play next year?
Do you think he'll play? It's highly unlikely. He's had
the whole season to get to recover from whatever he has.
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Do you think he'll play next year? And you're saying
highly unlikely.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Thirty four years old hip surgery on top of many
other surgeries and these and other things over the last
couple of years. Even if he were to play, how
effective would he be? Considering how in effect if he
was when he played anyway for the Angels from day one?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
How many games has he played?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Give me a second, I can get that on, all right,
I'll try to out.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, we're getting ready to start the second half and
he's not even a factor.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, he's out of side, out of mind, to be
honest with you, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Making thirty eight this year, he's making thirty eight five
next year. I just I wonder you know, guys aren't petty.
Nobody wants to get in anybody's money when you're on
a team. But I guarantee you those guys in that
clubhouse are looking at him sideways. If they guarantee you,
they are looking at him sideways when he enters the building.
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Because of that reason right there, Fred that he's not there,
he's not around, he's out of sight. He's a guy
that's you know, guys want to see a guy working
to get back on the field.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
If you can be in Florida working out, that's that's great.
But you got to come back to Anaheim and show
your face and make sure guys see you busting your
ass to try to get back on the field. Otherwise
there's gonna be some resentment going on. And I'm sure
there is down there with the Angels with him.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Do you think there are guys on the team that
have never met him?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
There's absolutely guys who probably haven't met.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Because was here. Was he there doing spring training at all?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No, He has surgery in the offseason, I believe in
December or January, and the team announced in February that
he was going to be.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Out long term.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So so before camp even started, he wasn't. They knew
he was going to be out, if not for the
entire season, at least a majority of it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Does he even have a locker? That's a good question.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Why is a waste of space?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Somebody that guy that that dressed up like oldtany go
down and sit in front of his locker like rundme.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Or don't be a part of the team picture.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Oh, they hire that same guy and just super impose
his face.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
On him, superimposing.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And yeah, so, by the way, so if you don't
count the COVID year which he played fifty two games,
and that was only a sixty game season, since then,
fifty eight, forty seven, forty three, last season fifty seven,
is he hasn't even Yeah, he hasn't even sniffed eighty games,
one hundred games.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wow, he's got played in fifty percent of the games.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
More than fifty Brodney, he's not played.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
In more than He's not played in more than sixty
games his entire tenure.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Wow, that's no return on an investment. Fred, It is
for him. It's for him. Oh man, all right, Dodger fans,
who is your MVP in this first half? Rodney? Throughout?
Will Smith? And I think it was a good call.
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Uh you know, drop Andy Paie has in there. Andy
Pie has had a hell of a first half, struggled
a bit at the end, but you cannot dismiss that.
I went with my second choice, and I said, yeah,
I'm a moto. But Dodger fans, who do you think
is the MVP of the first half? Eight six six
nine eighty seven two five seventy eight six six nine
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eight seven two five seventy. Let's hear your MVP next?
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Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh yes, it's a throwback Thursday. Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan.
Yeah we're both back, baby. Let's go Freddy.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. That's
the number. Here's the question. First half, Dodger fans, first half,
you tell us who the MVP is? Rodney Headwill Smith,
I had Yamamoto. PI has snuck in there as well.
But you watch every game, you listen to every game,
you probably know as much as anybody that covers the team.
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So who is your MVP in this first half of
the season, and can you tell us why we're going
to Santa Clarita, Tony, thanks for holding Who is your MVP?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
It's gotta be Pa Haz because he's a long term guy.
He could be on the Dodgers for the next ten years.
We already know about Will Smith, but now we've got
a guaranteed fielder for the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He's like Chris Tae, but he's he your MVP of
this season, though I know he's gonna be here for
the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We hopefully he is, because I think he's gonna get
better every year.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Doesn't he have as much RBIs as Otani? I think
he does, and he doesn't have as many runs as Otani.
He has as much RBIs. I think it's really close,
and so I think they actually move him up to
batting order. He needs to go up. And I think
it'd be better if Pa Haz was lead off and
Otani was clean up like Chris Taylor. Back when Chris
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Taylor and Bellinger, it was Taylor was leadoff and Bellinger
was clean up. It's like Pa Haz could be like
Taylor and Otani b Bellinger.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, to thank you. That's interesting, right, appreciate it, Tony,
But he's got any pie has as his MV not
to God, not a bad pick.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Not like you said. He took a little step back
the last couple of weeks, but for the most part,
from I think from mid April on, he has been
so consistent, so consistent, and hit some had some big
hits for the Dodgers too. Okay, let's go Peter in Corona.
All right, Peter, who is your MVP of the first half?
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Man, it was Max Monsey.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
When Max went down.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
That's when we lost seven games in a row.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
He carried us through June.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, what did he do in April and May?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
He did not do much, but he certainly made out
for it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, he's gotta be the totality of gotta be a totality, right.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He's gotta be April, May, June and half of July. Yeah,
he's not. He's not the guy from Milwaukee who was
an All Star after pitching five games, right. Yeah. A
good month is not going to cut it for you know,
for MVP. Yeah. Yeah, But I will say this, and
it's a valid point. When Max got hot, he got hot. Yeah,
he did. It wasn't kind of simmering. He caught fire.
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He exploded. Yeah, he did. Got hurt. That has been
a loss, So, Peter, that is a very good point. Uh,
let's go to Carlsbad Jim, appreciate you holding eight six six,
nine eighty seven, two seventy. Uh your MVP of the
first half. Jim, who do you like?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
It's got to be Will Smith. I mean, he's leading
the National League in batting average. I believe he leads
Major League Baseball with the highest average with runners in
scoring position. And then look at his work behind the
plate with all the different pitchers this year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, he's just a model of consistency one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I agree with you. That's why I picked him as well.
Great minds think alike. You're absolutely right Will Smith, Will Smith,
without a doubt, hands down. You know what's interesting, we
didn't and thanks for the call, Freddie Freeman. We didn't
even throw out him out there. And I know he
struggled and that and maybe that's why it's kind of
similar with has that Freddie struggled over the last what
three weeks Because Freddy for the most part, for most
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of the season, Freddy was leading an average, and I
think he was leading in doubles.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean he was, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
He was knocking the cover off the ball, and I
think he was in like three p fifty three sixty.
He and Judge would go back and forth in terms
of average, and he just dipped a little bit below
three hundred now because he's been in this tremendous slump
over the last three weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But nobody mentioned Freddy yet. No. I think he got
tacked with the slump. Yeah, I think that's what got him.
It's a six ninety seven two five seventy off. We
go to the east coast on the app. Here he
comes Gino.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Hello, Gino, and jentlemen, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're fine? Geno, oh good.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I picked Smith. But I have a question because because
they lost so much and that happens, I understand that,
and we're just at a bad time with mookim Freddy
for sure. Has anybody challenged the batting coach. I'm just
curious other than Smith, he's doing great. Freddy was at
three seventy six and he just totally dropped off the map.
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Hopefully they'll both get back.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, wait, let me ask you this when you say,
has anybody challenged the batting coach the hitting coach, and
what would you like someone to say to the hitting coach.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I played baseball when I was a kid. I'm not
a professional baseball player. Somebody challenge him, or challenge the players,
especially the three main players. Show he's okay, but he
strikes out a lot, big deal, he's got home runs.
We wanted that, right, but show hey, come as second
coach if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Now, so here's the deal. You fire the hitting coach
when you need a scapegoat. That's when the hitting coach
gets fired any team, somebody's got to get it. These
guys are hitting, we're gonna fire him.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean, what do you say when Freddy's hitting was
in three seventy six and Paez was on fire and
Freddie was you know, uh or Otani was on fire
and guys were, you know, knocking to cover off the
ball for three for three months. You got to give
him credit for that as well. Right, there's gonna be
ebbs and flows in the season. But at the end
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of the day, it's not the hitting coach. He's not hitting,
He's not to play.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right by the way, in the midst of all these
guys slumping, the Dodgers are still first or second in
every major offensive category team average, home runs, triples, doubles,
all of that. They're right up there with the Yankees
in cups. So you're not firing Robert van Skoyak or
anybody else on the hitting staff just based on the
team numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, but look at that, Kevin for a second,
look at the team numbers hitting wise. Okay, look at
the number of wins the team has. Look at their
place in the standings here, and it makes my point
from the first segment here, you know all of this,
and you're like, oh god, they're not hitting, Moukie's not
having a great year. Around the country, they know one thing,
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The Dodgers are in first place. If the Dodgers are
in first place, that's what they know. They don't know
all of this. And isn't it even more remarkable, given
that Freddy's been slumping, Mookie's not been great, o Tony's
been hot and cold, they're in first place.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I think that would give credence to the evil Empire
people who say that that look at this, Look at
how much their pisching staff has been decimated all season.
Three of the great players in the sport of the
last decade are all struggling at the same time. And
despite all that, they have a five game lead in
the NL West, and despite all that their tops in
the majors in offensive production. They might use that and say, like,
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this is what you get with the Dodgers. All the
guys they paid and they're still good, They're still mashing. Yeah,
that's the way people will look at it is that
they have they have all these big name guys who
are struggling, and they still find a way to win. Now,
that's a credit to just the organizational depth.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Absolutely, and scouting and and guys that they bring in.
You know, everybody. You know, other people had a chance
to get Piz. Other people had a chance to get
Tommy Edmond, who's struggling as well. But they had chances
to get these guys. They could have signed Tayo Hernandez
two years ago. Absolutely, those guys aren't making three hundred
(29:28):
million dollars, So everybody had a chance to get those guys,
but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They could have picked Dalton Rushing, They could have signed
Kim Yeah, could have drafted Amachian.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All of that been conspirabus. Absolutely who's been great for them.
By the way, wait a minute, I just looked out
the window. I see Jack Dryer warming up out in
the street. Now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Thought you thought he was coming in the All Star Game,
didn't you. He was set to go. He was looking
for Dave Robers to call him God pictures up her game.
But anybody could have signed him. Yeah, how about Alex
Vesu you Yeah, somebody could have signed him, could have
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drafted him. These guys are out there. So just because
the Dodgers spent all of this money, the guys that
make all of the money are struggling fair, fair, and
they're five and a half games up, And at the
end of the day, that's all that matters. How much
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do you tip? And if the service is bad, do
you tip it all? Let's break it down.
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a third single off the group's nineteen ninety four album
entitled Crazy Sexy Cool. The song spent seven weeks atop
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the Billboard Hot one hundred charts in the summer of
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Zealand Switzerland, and also earned the Grammy nominations for Record
of the Year and Best Pop Performance by a.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Duo or Group.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Again, Today's Afternoon Delight is Waterfalls by TLC.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
All right, Uh, we kind of touched on this in
the past. I think everybody listening has an opinion on it.
Are you a good tip of Rodney when you go
out to eat.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm a very good tipper, and if and if I'm
not paying the bill, I always double back and check
to make sure whoever's paying the bill gave a good tip,
and if they didn't, I'll kind of slip them something
else in there. Because it's very important to me, very
very important to me. A couple of reasons for this.
(32:29):
I think first, because you're a good person. You understand
people are working hard.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah. The other side of it is people know you, true,
and that's a big part of it. Oh yeah, people
know you. So you can't go in there and stiff
somebody because if you do, you know what's going to happen.
People are going to talk.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's funny you say that because we were not to
go back to the trip. But one of the one
of the unwritten rules of our trip, when we go
on with Maggie, if we go out to dinner, one
of the couples pays, right, so Magic Cookie don't pay.
They bring us so they pay for everything basically, But
when we go out to dinner in the town, one
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of the couples is responsible for paying, and you can
he will always double check and double back to make
sure that you not he's not even looking to see
if you left the tip. But he'll also always throw
more money into it, throw cash on top of what
you already tips.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just because of that reason you just said.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
They know he was in there and regardless of us,
nobody knows me from a can of payt in Italy,
but they know him and he will make sure that
the tip is right, So you're right.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
People know you. Oh you have to you have to
tip now you do because you're a good person. And
if you're in the service indust it's a tough way
to make a living. A lot of hours, a lot
of it is tip based, so that's how you earn
your living. And also, if you're a server, you better
than anyone understand this. You could do the best job
in the world and there could be things out of
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your control. Kitchen could be really backed up, something could
come out incorrectly, and you're sort of the ambassador. You're
the middleman. All complaints run through you. You didn't cook it,
but you're gonna hear about it. Something an order is wrong,
(34:34):
you're gonna hear about it. So here's the story. God
goes into a restaurant and uh, does not have a
very good time. Does not have a very good time.
The waitress allegedly lost his drink twice, brought him and
his girlfriend the wrong appetizer, vanished for what seemed like
(34:54):
an eternity when they wanted to order dessert. Okay, and
maybe we've all been through that. It's not a great
night of service anyway. Now it's time for the tip, Rodney,
what do you usually tip? What percentage? I'll tell you
what I tip. We tip twenty percent, always twenty percent
of the bill.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The floor is twenty and if it's really good, it'll
go I can do thirty. Sometimes I'll go higher on that,
but at the very least it's twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Twenty percent of the tip or twenty percent of the bill. Good.
So anyway, this guy has a terrible night, awful night,
just really did not have a good night out. Now,
he didn't tip nothing. He tipped ten percent, ten percent.
The waitress goes over, looks at it and sees the
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tip is ten percent. She starts yelling at him, call
him a cheapskate, telling him, you know that he's wrong.
He doesn't understand what are you doing. He then takes
the ten percent, walks out. He tips nothing, He just
walks out.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Wait, she started yelling at him because he saw it
was ten percent, and then he picked it up. Yeah,
after that, he picked it up and said, Okay, you're
yelling at me. You're not even gonna get to ten
percent exactly. Now what do you think of that story?
M Well, I gotta get more of the story because
if the waitress was horrible and rude and whatever, they
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don't deserve a tip.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
See, that's the dilemma, and that's I think what everybody faces.
You want to take care of people that take care
of you, and sometimes things are out of the service control.
So even if there's a problem, they can do the
best they can to correct it, but they can't. Again,
my steak is cold, but.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's the that's not the server, or it's the steak
is not the way I ordered it. That's not necessarily
the waitress or the waiter. It's the chef or the kitchen, right,
So you gotta I mean, you really got to figure
out where that came from. Now, if the server is
just been rude and takes forever to come get your
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order and gets your your stuff wrong and all those
type of things, and then you have every right, but
you got to really figure out where the blame goes
before you take that away, right, Because any food is cold,
that's not necessarily on the server. Yeah, Or your state
is not cooked, not cooked well enough and you wanted it,
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you know, medium, and it came out rare, that's not
on the server.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Right. So here's the thing. The guy leaves ten percent,
She yells at him. He gets up and he walks out.
I think the frustration is this, even if you're an
experience and the server did not have a good night,
didn't have a good night, really wasn't attentive, maybe had
too many tables and was running and was stretched too thin,
(37:50):
maybe just wasn't very good. If you leave less than
twenty percent, even if the service is bad, I think
you look like you're cheap. I think they would complain
to you and say this is the minimum for the
worst serf. It's twenty percent. Now conversely, you would think,
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as you said, hell, I'll give you forty percent if
it's been the greatest evening ever. Why should people be
tipped if their service wasn't good? Should should you be
obligated to tip someone if the service wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I'll say this too. And there's a number of establishments
that actually have suggested tips listed on the bill. The
lowest I've seen is ten. Usually it's ten, fifteen, twenty.
So if someone is like.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Well, twenty two in there now, usually a lot of
it is twenty two. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So a lot of places even said so, I think
this guy who has the gripe with the server is like,
well it was so bad, I'm gonna leave you something
and not nothing at all, but I'm going to leave
you the very least amount that would be considered by
something to be quote unquote respectable. I guess if the
restaurant is suggesting this as a as a floor, I'm
only going to give you the floor, because that's how
I felt like I was trying.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You think most people nowadays know that servers they make
their money on tips. I mean they get a minimum
salary basically, but their money is made on tips. Yes,
you think most people know that?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people make it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
It's legal, not like under minimum wage for whatever state
you're in a lot of states, two or three bucks
an hour, because it's assumed you're gonna make most of
your money on tips.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's like if you go to Starbucks, all right, or
to your drink, they'll flip the thing around. How much
do you want to tip us?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Mm?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Hmm, one buck, five bucks, nine bucks, whatever? And you feel,
my god, I should the thing's right in front of me.
What am I going to say? No tip? Yeah, but
I'm in essence giving you a tip for saying what
do you want? Yeah, you're not doing anything but talking
to me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You go to the airport now, and then you know
they have everybody's everything's automated, right, They have the little
machines there, and before you can pay, you go grab
some candy and grab you know, some mints and maybe
you know some medicine or you know whatever, and you
take it to the counter and you put your card in,
it'll say tip on there ten percent, twenty percent, eighteen percent,
(40:22):
twenty two percent. I'm like, you didn't serve me. I
went and got this from the shelf. Why am I
tipping you? But you feel bad because it's right in
front of you.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
That's social pressure and they're sitting they're sitting there staring
at you.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Sitting there staring at you. What are you gonna do
because you can't go, You can't just bypass it. You
got to say something.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh no, or it'll say no tip, no tip. And
if you do, no tip. And by the way, if
you go take something off the shelf, walk it up there,
hand it to somebody and they wring it up and
it turns around and there it is in front of you.
Or you just put your card in and it's right there,
but somebody's watching it. If you're gonna hit the no tip,
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you kind of want to kind of lean over and
block it. You want to kind of go side shoulder
into it and just hit the button and no tip
and a turning around will fast so nobody can see it. Right, Yeah,
you don't want anybody, you know you don't. But shouldn't
it be that you know you're tipping based on the
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service in theory, Kevin, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I would generally tip based on the server. Usually I
would do bare minimum of fifteen. Typically I do twenty,
just like you guys do. But I also, thankfully, I
guess knock on Wood have not had such ungodly terrible
service where I wouldn't consider having a tip that low.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
So what about what about the counter where the thing
says you want to tip?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
It depends. I've definitely done no tip in the past.
I refuse to crack to the social pressure of that.
If I know somebody literally sat there press two buttons
and say leave me a tip, I'd say for what,
with all due respect that that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Don't say for what? But no, no, I don't for what.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, and no one has challenged me on it. They
don't say anything to me. But I just had no
tip and keep on pushing. It does not bother me
one bit.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I did.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I was feeling in a mood one time and I
did that to the to the person behind the thing.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Thank god it was. It was a person that's like, yeah,
I know, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
We didn't do anything and they're asking for a tip
before we can move on with the transaction. But I questioned,
I said why what I don't I was just fed
up at one point, I said, what I don't understand.
Why is there I literally grabbed three things myself, brought
it to you, and all you did was pushed two buttons?
(42:47):
So why why is there a Why is there a
tip promo on this machine? Yeah, that's just the way
they set it up, and uh, they're trying to take
care of blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
It was.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
It was very honest about it, but yeah, I get it.
I get it if you don't because we didn't really
do anything. He was very nice about it. But I'm
sure there are other people going cheap skate. You don't
want to tip us or we're working back here behind
the counter, and you know it's a thankless job. We're
working at the airport, or we're working somewhere and you
don't want to tip us.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
What do you guys think about the tips that are
already factored into the bill?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Not the biggest fan, to be honest. I do you
understand why some businesses do it?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, because there are chief skates out there. Yeah, Ronnie,
what do you think? No?
Speaker 8 (43:33):
I don't like it either, Fred, And going back to
the whole tipping thing, I find this a Dodger Stadium.
You know, I'm going buying a twenty dollars beer at
Dodger Stadium. They flip the thing around and they want
me to tip. I don't tip, right, I just hit
pay and walk away.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I feel like the grab and go when you walk by,
you grab arab behind me.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
And to Kevin and Rodney's point, I mean you didn't
do anything. You just you hit a button and you
flip the screen around. I'll take my beer and leave
doll beer anyway.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Do you think the people sitting there are mad if
you don't tip the person that's at that stop, that location.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
Doesn't seem that way to me.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Fred, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I've not really felt that because I've done it a
couple of times where I've just like it's hit, just pay,
not not tip. When I've done everything myself, I haven't
really ran across anybody that got offended by not tipping
if if they didn't do anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But but the whole tipping thing.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
When you get a bill in certain restaurants, you get
a bill, it's gratuity included. Like like here's a here's
the thing. If you stay in a hotel and you
own a room service that is always there, and a
lot of people that that bring the room service to
you don't tell you that. They don't tell you gratuity included.
They just let it go and and there's a tip
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line and all that kind of stuff, but they don't
tell you, hey, hey, gratuity is included. And I always
love the people that say it, Hey, listen, all you
got to do is sign because gratuity is included. I
always tip when when they say that and let me
know up up up front, I was like, okay, let
me give you a little something extra for that. That's
if they don't say anything, I just sign it and
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go see because those people are honest.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah right, so you take care of them. But it's
the ones that try to deceive you.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, you know, you know, you know it says it
right there, gratuity included.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
The problem is with those room service things. If you're
in a hotel and a room serface, you're not gonna
sit there and look at the bill. You're just gonna
find over yeah tip, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And people they bank on that, they bank on those
guys bank on you not even reading that, and they
just say, Okay, there's a tip line. You're gonna put
some extra money in this, all right?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
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