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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Peter Big
three hour show on AM five seventy LA Sports Rodney
back at it tonight. The second half begins, How you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I feel good? I feel good. Yeah, I feel good. Fret.
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's kind of a much needed break for the guys
and the series they had with San Francisco right before
the break, I thought was great the way they want it,
or almost blew it but came back. You know, some
things obviously got to clean up in the second half.
But I think I think everybody's looking forward to this
(00:38):
second half. And I think you mentioned this the other
day that other teams should be kicking themselves and worried
now because they had their shot. They had their shot
to beat up on the Dodgers when they were decimated
by injuries and not playing well. Yet here we are
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starting the second half up and the Dodgers are still
five and a half games up.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Some things they have to clean up in the second half.
Top of your mind, what do they have to clean up?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh, it's the bullpen for sure, the back end. They
got to figure out what they're gonna do with Tanner Scott.
I know you're ready to ride him off and send
him out the pasture or put him in the fifth
inning and sixth inning. But they got to figure out
if he's going to be the guy or not, and
then just really manage the guys as they come back.
(01:29):
I think that is going to be a key. You know,
as guys start to get back off the injury list,
especially the pitchers, and how how do you work them
back into the rotations. That's going to be key because
you don't want to bring them back too fast, but
you also want to get them ready for the postseason.
But it's really pitching fred I think for me is
going to be the thing that I'm going to be
(01:51):
watching closely.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, one of the guys you're referring to has already
come back, but now he'll go again as Tyler Glass.
Now he's good, he's great, and when he's healthy, he's good.
So the question is can he continue to be good
if he can continue to stay healthy, And what's your
hope is his run on the IL has come to
one end and now he'll be here the rest of
(02:13):
the way. I'd say at this point with the guys
coming back, he's the wild card. We don't wish you'll
will on anybody, but I just think you have to
be realistic. Hopefully he stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
What do you think, because you know, there was some
controversy when they signed him that he you know, was
having trouble finishing a full season even when he was
in Tampa Bay. Like you said, when he's on the
mound and he's healthy, he's as good as it gets.
And that for a moment there when he brought him
over from from Tampa Bay, he was the one that
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when he pitched, it stopped the bleeding. He was the
guy that shut it down, and he was the Dodger ace.
But man, he cannot afford to have another injury fread
otherwise it gets that label gets big and bold as
a guy that can't stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So I'm going eighty twenty eighty twenty eighty he makes it,
but I'm giving you a twenty percent chance that he doesn't.
Eighty twenty, So for him, that's really on the high side,
like one hundred percent. Yeah, but Bud, Bud, given his history,
you can't just call it one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
He makes it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The rest of the way, I'm going eighty twenty, right, yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Even the last one right when he h he had
that little soreness or twinge that he had in his
arm and was he was out on the mound and
he took himself out of the game. And you know,
initially you thought, oh, that's okay, just something minor. Thank
god he noticed it, and it's going to be something
precautionary and it turned out be a long term deal.
(03:48):
But that is his history, man, And and uh, I
hope you're right. I hope it is eighty twenty. My
Akling says it's fifty to fifty. He finishes it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh to see, Yeah, I thought if I said that,
I'd get just sad. It's so I went eighty twenty.
The other thing about Glass, now we remember this earlier
in the year. Remember when he was pitching. I think
it was in Cleveland. It was raining, Yeah, and the
dirt got stuck into spikes, yep, and he had to
come out of the game. There can't be any of
that now either. You know, your head's got to be right,
(04:18):
your body's got to be right. He will start the
second half of the Dodgers tonight against a Milwaukee team
that can really hit. Jackson Curio is the real deal.
It's like twenty two to twenty three years old. That
guy is a stud. That whole lineup can hit. So
it's going to be a playoff test for the Dodgers
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coming out of the break, because I believe the Brewers
will be one of.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The teams in the playoffs. Oh dred percent and the
Brewers have been one of the hottest teams in baseball
before the All Star Break. They're probably one of the
only teams out there to go. Man, why does the
All Star Break have to happen right now? We won
seventh straight I believe they did before the All Star Break,
so they they are hot, and you're absolutely right, they've
got a lineup that a lot of people don't know
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about or then maybe you know Churia as you mentioned
and Yellice, but they've got some guys up and down
that lineup that can that can smoke the ball.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And Glass now better beyond.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't know if this is the best start for
you to come back against a team that is the
hottest in baseball in Milwaukee for Tyler Glass now, but
we'll see, you're gonna get tested right away.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So also, the trade deadline is approaching, we have been
discussing it, and now there are two trains of thought.
What do you needed at the deadline? Well, the conventional
wisdom is they need a reliever. David Vance said last
night on Dodger Talk, they need a power bat. Now,
Dave is far more plugged into this than we are.
(05:52):
Maybe they need a little of each. Maybe they need
a guy that can really hit, because if that's the case,
Michael Canfordo is moving to a different role. If in fact,
they make a move that means Confordo is out of
the lineup or is going to play sparingly, and they
could probably use a reliever.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
The names at vas as out last night Byron Buxton
and Jamie Durant or Jared Durant, I'm sorry, Jared Duranta
Boston and Buxton of Minnesota. I can tell you when
Buxton came up, and he's been in the league a
while now, when he came up, they projected him to
be a superstar. I mean, he was one of the
(06:34):
IT players and he's had a very nice career. I
don't know, maybe if they get him out of Minnesota
and put him here, he'll have a spectacular career. Durant
has some speed and a little pop in his bat
both would be good additions. If the Dodgers went and
pulled the trigger, do you see them now, because we're
getting close now, do you see them making a move
(06:57):
for a power bat like that?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That'd be a lot. And you think about Durant and Boston,
they're one of their young superstars. I think he was.
He made the All Star team line. I think he
was All Star MVP last year a year before, and
then Buckston was also an All Star. I don't know
if they they move those guys, to be honest with you,
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both Minnesota and Boston, but I could see that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let me do it back on you.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If if Max Munsey doesn't get hurt, do you think
power bat is is a.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Rate away they go?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Fair question?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean, because I know you know they were.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
There was consideration about Conforto and Kenny hang On or
Kenny get it turned around, and yeah, you got to
find out a situation for him. But when Munsey went down,
now you're taking another left handed bat out of the lineup,
and who's to replace that? Now you got two guys down,
So I could see them going after a bat not
(07:58):
knowing knowing that he's you know, it's not season ending
from Max, and he's coming back, but he's going to
be coming back off of injury. I think you gotta
really consider getting the bat. I think you really do.
And if that's the case, I would probably think Duran
is going to be more of the choice than Buxton.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, I think the Muncie injury brings up a good point.
If Munsey's there and he's hitting as he was, and
remember he did not hit his hat's eyes early on,
but all of a sudden he caught fire. Now he's
Max Munsei. If Munsey is there, do they need another bat?
And I would say to you, even if Munsey is there,
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they would want another bat because when they get to
the playoffs, they want one through nine to scare people.
I mean, if you look at the Dodger lineup right now,
when Confordo comes up, and we talked about this in
the past, every pitcher looks at the lineup or the
manager of the opposing team, where are the outs? Right,
(09:01):
that's what you think? Where are the outs? I mean,
we got to get everybody out, but where's the guy
we know we're gonna get. At least that gives us
peace of mind. And I think if you look at
the Dodger lineup right now, the guy is Conforto, he's
the out, and not because he can't hit. It's because
he hasn't been hitting. He's not had a great year.
(09:23):
So that's the out. Do you want in the playoffs
the out in your lineup? Or do you want the
opposing pitcher to look at your lineup and think, I
gotta nowhere to go here? I mean, I just gotta
do what I can because all these guys can beat me.
I think in the playoffs that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, But here's the thing, Fred, you're not The playoffs
don't start tomorrow. So are you going to give Conforto
the opportunities to get it going over the next two
months before you make a decision. I know you got
to make a decision at the trade deadline, which is
you know the tough part. But do you believe Confordo
(10:05):
can get it going? And that's a big if. That's
a big if because he's had a half a season
to get it going and he hasn't. And you know,
there was a moment that he shown some signs that
he was turning it around, but not enough of a
sample size to say he's back, So you know, God,
I just I just don't know. And with the question
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of Max Munsey and how he's gonna return once he
comes back from injury, that's another question mark. So offensively,
you're right. You want it to be a scary as
scary a lineup as you possibly can. And with Confordo
in there, and the way he's struggling, is it that?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And Max? With Max Munsey gone, is it that? You know?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Another guy, Tommy Edmonds is struggling too. So here's the
thing about Edmund.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Here's the thing, Rodney, if you really look at his history,
is he struggling or is he Tommy Edmund? No, it's
better than the playoffs, so is he Is he struggling
or is that what you're gonna get?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But you get to the playoffs that he can hit
a Hernandez cat that you know, as it gets close
to the playoffs, he turns it on. He's a different player.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well you saw him last year in the playoffs. Yeah,
but you also and and people don't remember this leading
into the playoffs, and I know he hadn't played in
a while. When the Dodgers got him, he was okay,
he was a breath of fresh air. He was aggressive,
he was fast, he was good defensively, he wasn't ripping
(11:40):
the cover off the ball. But the playoffs hit and
this guy looked like Babe Ruth. So maybe what we're
seeing from tom Ney Edmund is Tommy Edmund solid defensively,
hustles quick, good teammate, guy you want on the field,
can make things happen, but maybe just not a great,
great regular season hitter. And that's something they have to
(12:03):
consider too, and they think about getting a bat. And
the thing is this, you don't wish anybody to lose
their job. I don't you don't you played? You know
how hard it is to do all of this stuff.
You'd like to see Michael Conforto step up and just
have a spectacular second half.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Mm hm absolutely, here's.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The concern you got like two weeks now, because if
you don't make a move at the trade deadline, then
who's available?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
All right, So then again, if you don't make the move,
then what do you do. Are you really going to
be able to acquire somebody after the trade deadline that
can make a difference. I don't know about that. So
that's why this is so critical right now. And it
leads to this, the Dodgers having to make a move
at the trade deadline. Okay, so I think it was
(13:22):
an article in OutKick dot com and this just killed
me when I saw it this morning. They wrote the
fact that the Dodgers have to trade for a reliever
or make a deal with the deadline means they're twenty
twenty five off season. Listen to This was a failure
and it proves you cannot buy championships. Whoever said that?
(13:45):
Nobody in Los Angeles ever said that. We never said that.
As a matter of fact, what we said was quite
the opposite. You cannot buy a championship. You can certainly
put yourself in the best position to succeed, but there's
no way of guaranteeing anything. And that was interesting because
there it is around the country. That is the perception
(14:08):
and told you, told you so. If the Dodgers had
not won the World Series last year, not one person
would have commented on the fact that they spent all
this money. They would have laughed and said, see, you
can't buy a championship. But nobody ever said you They
would have laughed. But because they won the World Series
(14:29):
last year, the perception became all these guys can do
whatever they want. They just bought it. They just bought it.
They don't get it. And I said, no, no, no, no, no.
That is a perception that is really incorrect. And if
you think about it, it's interesting because people people don't
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get it. People are sheep and they follow the flock.
They get caught up on one thing, and that is
the thing. The dodg spend a lot of money. If
it was so easy for the Dodgers to spend money
and be guaranteed the World Series because the Dodgers have
all the money, which is true, then they should just
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buy the World Series trophy and not any players. If
they have that much money, and it's guaranteed that by
spending it you win. Then why don't they just buy
the trophy? Then it's done. Then everybody can complain and say, see,
the only reason they have that trophy is because they
(15:34):
have all the money. No one takes into account. And
it's interesting the organization Rodney, and how they do things
and why they're able to do the things they can
do and what they have built for sustained success. This
article confirms it. People don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
No they don't.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And it's part jealousy, part not being a part of it,
part not understanding, and part of it is lazy. Fred,
that's a lazy comment. It's a lazy comment to say, oh,
they just bought the team or that was a failure
because and without even really investigating the injuries and what
the Dodgers have gone through and look at it the
way we do and go, well, we gotta give them
(16:21):
an A or B plus at least because they shouldn't
be where they are, right. This is what we're saying
when we're close to it, and they're saying because.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
They are where they are, it's a failure. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Okay, So going back to what we're gonna do in
the trade deadline, Fred, you got you got one move.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, you got to make a choice. Are you
going pitching or are you going hitting.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I'm gonna go hitting. Yeah, and that's probably not well. Hell,
they'll do both if they want to, because again, they'll
do whatever they want. But if I only had one, Yeah,
I would go hitting.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I would too, because I got a bank on.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Even if half of the guys from the pitching staff
come back, you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You're gonna be okay, So I would. I would, definitely,
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I would go hitting because I got a bank on
I'm gonna get most of my guys back from the
pitching staff and starting in bullpen that we're gonna be
okay on the mouth, but hitting could be a concern.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So yeah, I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And you know, when people say they need a reliever, again,
I don't want to overstate this. You don't need a
reliever because you have Jack Dryer. Jack Dryer will pitch
every game, rubber arm Dryer and we'll pitch every game.
He is in a parking lot right now, warming up
before tonight's game. It's amazing. Anytime you turn around, that
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guy's am I wrong, He's everywhere. I mean, he's the guy.
All right, we have a bull bullpen game today, it's
gonna be Jack Dryer. Tomorrow we're gonna have Yamamoto go,
we go six, and here comes Jack Dryer. The next day, Oh,
(18:20):
we have another bullpen game. Pitching third is Jack Dryer.
He's everywhere. You only need one guy in a bullpen
with him.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's him.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Because the guy pitches like every game.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, well you know now that and then they've needed
him to right, they've needed him to do that. But
as the guy starts to come back, you know, he
becomes uh maybe he becomes a luxury.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now, Fred a luxury, Yeah, a luxury. You got him.
Anytime you want him, you got him. Anytime somebody needs
dress Jack Dryer.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Somebody needs a little time off, doesn't want to go
more more than two innies.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Deck.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I've told you this before Saturday one hundred degrees, uh,
deck driver, listen, I've said this to you before. Maybe
you don't believe it. Jack Dryer is Phil Bickford, Phil.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Big Anything, do anything Bickford.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Phil Bickford pitched every game and he wouldn't go out
there for one inning. We need Phil, We need you
for six tonight, great tomorrow, we need you for three.
I'm in the next two days. My arm, my arm's
falling off. Okay, good, go for three. Only go for
three innings today? What do you say, young fella? Come on,
young fella, get on out there, get out there.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
We need you. Give me what you got Hey, you're
still young, you got time.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean Phil, Phil Bickford's out a baseball because his
arm fell off.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh my god. They did try that poor kid out
there every single day.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And he did the job, did the job when they
put him in.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He did he did.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Jack Dryer is Phil Bickford. And you know who's a
close second, Casparius. Oh yeah, big Benny.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He definitely is because he seems like he pitches every
day too, right, but not maybe as long as Jack,
but he definitely gives you that one inning and two tops.
But yeah, Benny is out there. Every time you turn around.
Ben is coming out of that bullpen and been effective.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
By the way, let's all be thankful for this because
if this happened, we would all be heartbroken. They cannot
allow Alex Vessi to pitch every day the kid. No, no,
because when he goes out there, he looks like he's
about to explode. Yes, every time, he's gonna pop a vessel. Right,
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it would be like the movie Scanners, the old movie. Well,
you'd stare at somebody and whoever had the strongest mind,
the other guy's head would explode. He would like he
would be a scanner right in front of him. He
would just blow up.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, there's nobody tightly wound.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And oh god, does he drink two red bulls before
the game.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't know, maybe five, But I tell you what.
You remember a couple of years ago, they were ready
run him out of town?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yes? Yes, Wait when he first came up. Wait wait wait,
when he first came up, we had him on the
show and everybody fell in love with them. Yeah remember, yeah,
I do. We had him right at the beginning and
we thought, who was this guy? He's wild? Then then
all right, the next season he went to a rough patch. Yeah,
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but then he righted the ship and was great during
the Royal series run last year. He was he was,
I mean, he was. He was in that category of
who's the Dodger VP MVP. Vessia in so many moments
late in the season came through and that seventh inning
or eighth inning when they needed to stop the momentum
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of the other team or or needed somebody to shut
down in a high leverage situation, he came in and
he put it together.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And he had a fantastic year last year.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, he did. He's great. If there's one guy I
want to see coming to the game, any game, it's Vessia.
That's the guy. When he comes running in, I have
the most confidence and the most fun. If he strikes
somebody out, it's like he won the master.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You just want to see the veins pop out of
his neck when he loved.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That I love. And when he completes the inning, that's
what it's about.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Oh yeah, the fist pumping, the yelling, the screaming, the talking.
He's like al Arboski back in the day.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He is.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
He's like the man Hungarian. Vessia is the most fun
to watch. All right, Well, the second half gets started tonight, Ronnie,
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Speaker 2 (24:03):
That's right, it's Friday. You know what that means.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, come on on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
No, we don't. Let's go right to Pete Fred Rogan
come on now.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right, So this is the story that we talked
about at the end of our show yesterday that everybody
in the country is talking about. I don't care what
is going on in the world. There is nothing bigger
than this story. The story of astronomer Astronometer CEO Andy Byron,
CEO of this company, and the head of HR, Kristin Cabot.
(24:44):
So we talked about this yesterday. Here's the situation. Andy
Byron is married and he is the CEO of the company.
Kristin Cabot is divorced, so.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
She is single, okay, So because it was reported that
both of them were married, right, right.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
She's single.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
She's the head of h R. She's the chief people person,
as they say in today's world, the head of HR
for the company. And she was hired in twenty twenty four.
And when she was hired, she talked about and the
video has been removed because I wanted Kevin to pull it, yeah,
so we could hear her. But the video from twenty
twenty four was removed, and she talked about how wonderful
(25:28):
it was to work for the company and what she
thought of the CEO. It was an internal video and
by the time I had sent it to Kevin, they
yanked it down, so we don't have that.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But anyway, she just the gist of what she said.
She just talked about how great he was or something else.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, she was excited to work for the company. It
fit her her values and you know, she had met
the CEO and she was very impressed by him and
the mission that they were going to have. All right,
So it turns out at the Coldplay concert, the company
(26:08):
apparently has a box and you invite, you know, people
from the staff. Sometimes it's for clients. Sometimes they just
bring their executives. Sometimes they bring people that have earned
the right to go to the game of the concert.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
This was a.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Concert, so they're inside, they're in the box. And as
you know, because you've been to Crypto dot Com Arena,
being to a dome, the Forum, Dodger Stadium, anywhere where
there's an event, there are in house cameras and oftentimes
(26:46):
they pan the crowd. You know that when you go
if you're with thirty five thousand people, twenty five thousand,
five thousand, one hundred thousand, you're with a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You're not safe in a box either, because they can
pan into the box. As we've seen it. I mean,
if you have you've been under a rock for the
last twenty years, if you don't know or you don't
think that, a camera can pan into the box and
see who's sitting in that box.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So if you're there, there's a possibility at one point
or another, you're going to be on and you know
if you go to certain games, I have the kiss
cam that kind of thing. Right, they show couples and uh,
you know everybody starts laughing if the camera's pointed at
the wrong two people. All right, so we know this
happens during the concert. They're rocking out to Coldplay and
(27:38):
the camera zooms in on two people, a man and
a woman. The man has his arms around the woman
from behind. She is pressed against him and they are
kind of moving to the music, moving to the music,
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so I could kiss cam thing. Nobody was kissing, but
these two people certainly looked like they were together. Now,
you don't know who these two people are. One of
the people in the box looks up and sees the
guy with his arms around the woman. The minute she
says something, the guy with the arms around the woman vanishes.
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It's like there was a trap door it opened and
he just duck down so you can't see him anymore.
The woman turns her back and kind of walks out.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Puts her head down.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, Chris Martin makes a comment, Oh, they're shy or
they're having an affair like that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Chris Martin from Goldway.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, well he looks up and sees this because it
was so abrupt.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It was so abrupt, I didn't realize he made that comment. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So now because of that, and because of the world
we live in, somebody grabs that video and now the
video is circulating. And at first it's circulating because of
Chris Martin's comment, or you would chuckle at something like that,
but then upon further review, you realize it's the CEO
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of the company, Andy Byron, and the head of HR,
Kristen Cabot. They're there might have been a company outing,
but that's a very friendly company, a very friendly company.
So now you have to do something because this thing
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is everywhere. Look it up. You'll see the clip. It
is everywhere. It's the most talked about thing going on.
All right, So now the CEO sends out a statement.
The statement is basically, this was an error in judgment.
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I'm sorry for the people I've hurt, but no one
said anything. It was just this five second clip. I'm
sorry for the people I heard. This is an error
in judgment. I need time, personal time to reflect on
what I've done and evaluate my situation. And then at
the end of it, he writes something like, but I
would like to point out that it's unfair that when
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people could do an event like this, you know, they
should should not be photographed like that. They should feel safe.
He said that, yeah, something like that. Right at the
very end of it, he says that, like, why do
you out me? What's that about? So the beginning of it,
as a standard statement, it's basically, I screwed up, I
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apologize to my wife, my family, I'm gonna reflect, and
then he puts that in there, which makes it worse.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Is it worse?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, So nowhere in the statement. Nowhere in this statement
does it say listen, I was caught on camera. I
know it was surprising to some you know, my wife
and I and my family we've been working out some
things and you know we're not together or sure, it
caught a lot of people by surprise, but it's really
(31:23):
not a surprise because we've been going through things that
The statement never said that. So basically what it was
the CEO of the company got caught with the head
of HR who he hired on camera with his arms
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all over her. Now that brings us to this. Anything
you'd like to say at this point before we move
on to the next part of it.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
You mentioned that the couple owns the box, and so
I guess the question and which when I do remember
the video can pull it up again. But there are
other people were in that box, right, correct? I wonder
if there were other people from the company in that box.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
As a matter of fact, o, Vin, you have something,
oh gonna I think you got it already, to go
ahead for it.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
As a matter of fact, there is another woman that
is seen when the two of them are captured on camera.
She's actually the one that says, oh, look, you're up there,
which caused him to disappear and her to turn her
back and put.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Her head down.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
That woman works in the HR department for the woman
who was being hugged. She worked in HR. Oh wow,
all right, should we discuss this more? Should we move
on to.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The next party.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
So the woman that pointed and she put her hands
over her face and turned around, he duck cloinne like
he said, he went through a trapdoor. Yeah, she turned
around in embarrassment. And there was a woman that worked
in HR that was there that saw it on the
big screen and pointed it out.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Correct. Okay, all right, So now that leads to this
for him. Oh, by the way, now another aspect of
the story. He's the married one. His wife changed her
name on Facebook to her maiden name.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
After this incident.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yes, this morning, his wife changed her name back to
her maiden name. And they have kids more than one.
So now let's think about what's going to happen next.
Number one, Andy Byron the Sea. Can we all agree
(34:01):
is done? Do we all agree you can't come back
from this? Because this is worldwide?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Now what if he's not only just the CEO, but
he is the own seventy eight percent of the company.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Then he would have to step down as CEO and
just be a board member or silent partner. He cannot
be the face of the company anymore. Right, So do
we agree, Kevin Ronnie, this guy's done.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Oh there's no way you can't be the face of
a company with something like that happens to you.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
He needs to do the right thing and resign, right,
That's the only thing that needs to be done. Okay,
So now that leads us to the woman who is single,
Kristen Cabot. So, in business, the one thing you don't
want to do well, maybe you do, but you shouldn't.
You don't want to date somebody you report to. And
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if you are overseeing people, they certainly tell you. If
I'm your manager, we cannot have a relationship. They tell
the people in charge, do not date people at the
office that report into you, because now we have a problem.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Right, you're just opening yourself up and the company up
for any kind of lawsuit, any kind of sexual harassment,
he bullied me anything, It's just bad business. First of all,
they probably tell you, don't date anybody in the office.
But life happens and things happen, but certainly, do not date.
Do not date anybody that you manage or.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Reports to you. That is the absolute no, no good.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, she apparently is the company hr person, apparently is
involved with the CEO of the company. That in itself
honestly is cause for termination. That's cause you can't do that.
They won't fire this guy. But that's cause and they
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all know her, what her, and that leads us to
her ultimately in this whole thing, if you don't look
at it from a moral perspective, Okay, we're not gonna
be anybody's moral compass. What did she do wrong? She
was caught, well, the married man's arms around her, But
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that doesn't affect her job, except her boss is the
guy that had his arms around her. So now what
happens to her? Well, the first thing she's going to say,
she's been humiliated nationally. She is humiliated nationally. So guess
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what that is. That's a strike against the old company.
The CEO of the company humiliated me. I don't care
if they've been together for a year and a half secretly.
Now it's everybody for themselves. He humiliated me nationally. You
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understand that I can never walk back into this building.
I can never talk to anybody at the company again.
They've lost all respect for me because of him.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So she can turn the case on him and you
even though if it was consensual, And even if it
was consensual, you can say he's my boss and he
acted inappropriately in the box? Correct, So what will happen
to her?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And I can't work here anymore? Right?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So what are you gonna do for me? How are
you going to take care of me?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Buy out?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
We're gonna That's exactly right. And I gotta be honest
because of the human humiliation I have suffered. That's gonna
be a big number. You may have destroyed my chance
to ever work again. I could never be in charge
of h R. When I'm involved in this. People come
(38:09):
to me with HR problems. I was the chief people person,
that was my title. What people are gonna respect me now?
And I gotta tell you it's all his fault. So
what are you gonna do? Because the last thing I
(38:31):
want to do is go public with more details?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Wow? Now you yeah, Now, you sound like a Netflix special, Fred.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh, it's all true.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
The last thing I want to do. Hey, I don't
want to do it. As a matter of fact, I
don't want to go out more details because last night
at the concert was not an isolated incident. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
There have been other things that I could bring up.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
So you know who's now liable? The company?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
The company?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
And wait, Andy Byron personally. Yeah, Hey, Andy, I know
we you know, listen, I know we travel, you know,
two hundred days a year for business, and I know
in those two hundred days, we've slept together every single night.
And by the way, I know that we've told each
other we love each other. Sure, I knew you were married,
(39:29):
but you told me you weren't really married. Now I
understand you are married, and this lovely have for each other.
I can't overcome the humiliation. So now I'm ssuing you too.
I'm going to sue you personally, and I'm going to
sue the company again. You you don't have to settle
(39:50):
with me. But man, some of the stuff that's going
to come up if we go to trial. I don't
think we want to hurt anybody like that. That would
be awful. That's how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And you know, something fred as crazy as that and
as innocent as it could be, as one of the
you know, two people kind of you know, falling for
the lust and in hooking up. Like you said, we
travel two hundred days out of the year, and one
time we got a little tipsy and we got a
little friendly, and all of a sudden it started. And
(40:29):
now we can't stop.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
That.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Even though it doesn't feel like this was a targeted
situation or a plot by her, those kind of plots
happen all the time, all the time, and both ways,
man and female. This is a straight up movie. Sure
(40:57):
it might be a Netflix special coming up soon, because
you're right, this thing could get ugly.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
It could get ugly fast. You know, the old saying.
You know why that happened because one of them, believe
it or not, wanted to get caught. And you go,
what do you mean, why would you say that? You
wouldn't be in front of all of those people with
company people in.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
The box, company people in the box.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You're the arms wrapped around somebody.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, you wanted to get caught.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You wanted to get caught, or you didn't care enough, right,
meaning you wanted to get caught. Now, the only subplot
to all of this could be if the wife, who
has now changed her name to her maiden name on Facebook,
comes out and says, we didn't tell anybody, but we
(41:49):
have been having problems, right, we have been living separately,
and that's what happened. Let's say that's the case. Let's
say that's the case. Okay, what did he do wrong?
He embarrassed her? Yeah, she's embarrassed if none of their
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friends knew, right, if none of their friends knew that
they were having problems, but they were keeping it quiet
and trying to work on it. Allegedly, they all know now,
they all know now, and that's why she's upset. Now. Yeah, well,
the plot thickens, Kevin yells in my ear. We gotta go.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's been the hour and a half talk about that,
there goes, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, we'll get to this next thing quick because I
don't know how long it will take. Breast milk for everybody.
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Speaker 1 (43:00):
All right, let's just make this short and sweet. People
have come up with many ways to make money over
the years. You know, do what you can as a
side hustle, and if you make a couple of bucks,
good for you. So here's the trend going on right now.
Mothers are breast pumping new mothers and putting their milk
(43:21):
in bottles, and they are selling their breast milk to bodybuilders.
And these moms are making a lot of money. So
you know, baby baby uses formula, but hugo from the
gym is you know, drinking mom's breast milk. One woman said,
(43:43):
I made eight hundred dollars in just one day selling
my breast milk eight hundred bucks a day.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
That's hm, that's that's that's pretty uh, that's pretty healthy
living there.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's a that's a that's a good investment. Listen.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Breast milk. Breast milk is a actually a wonder drug.
You know, most doctors will tell you if you have
a child that you know and and and women know
this better than bestI moms know this better than men do.
But if you can breast feed your child, that is
the best way to feed your child when they're infants.
(44:24):
And breast milk itself has so many uses. I could
remember Ollie would we we'd have you know, she would
have to pump often because the kids when when she
would have leftover, so we would pump and she would
pump and kip them a refrigerator and all that kind
of stuff. So we had extras in case she was
(44:45):
out and I was with the kids. But we would
use her breast milk to heal certain little wound scratches
or whatever that the kids may have. It has a
real healing effect and it's probably got so many the
hormones in it. I see and look, these bodybuilders, they
do their research on everything in terms of their body
(45:07):
and what works and what doesn't work, and some good,
some bad to get certain results. They wouldn't be doing
this if this was something that was a just a
gimmick or a fluke. They have to have found at
some point that there's serious results from the breast milk.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, they pay two dollars an ounce for the breast milk, apparently,
and one of the women that does it is a
bit concerned, though. She says that she's extremely leery off
selling to adult males, fearful that some of her want
to be clients might actually be creeps with kookie kinks
for lactating ladies, cookie.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Kinks for lactating ladies.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, I have to be honest with you, and obviously
you look at me. You know I'm no bodybuilder. I
had no idea. I had no idea that bodybuilders would
want breast milk and it would be good for them.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Didn't know.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Oh yeah, it's got a lot of lot of great
qualities reast milk, a lot of natural qualities, it has
healing qualities and more so, I mean, it doesn't shock me.
It shocked me that this turned into a real like
a business and a side hustle for a lot of women.
(46:22):
Do you think that women would get intentionally get pregnant
in order to make this a hustle?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
So you sell it on the side that that be
an awful lot to go through, an awful lot to
go through.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, you said one woman is making eight hundred dollars
a day, right.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Well, I'll also say that there's an I've it's funny.
I saw this, and I'll talk to my wife about this,
and she's at friends and all this. So apparently there's
a thing with women and they're called super producers. So
they just produce an ungodly amount of breast milk. But
that's not the majority of the population, so there's only
a certain amount of women who are actually equipped they
actually do something like this. So if you get pregnant,
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there's no guarantee that you're going to be a super
producer and that you'll have the ability to produce milk
and Bob. This is a huge industry just in general.
It's not just weird old bodybuilders, but they're actually women
who prefer to give their kids breast milk over formula,
and they will pay ungodly amounts for women to ship
it in from wherever for breast milk as opposed to formula.
(47:24):
So it's been a business for a while.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
They drink, they use other women's breast milk.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So yeah, yes, I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Oh yeah, it's big business, really big business.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
There are women that have other women that are pregnant
with them, that ones that that theyn't that don't lactate
very well or can't produce breast milk, that are friends
that will have their friends breast milk breastfeed their children
so their friend, their neighbor will come over and and
not only breastfeed her child, but also breastfeed her friend's
(47:55):
child as well.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Quinn Medicine woman the old dress.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah,