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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's go, Fred Rugan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy l A Sports Big three hour show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Dylan Hernandez at The Times will join us during the
one o'clock hour. Everybody the salta Adam Auslin jump sign
here during the two o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The salty was happy. The salty is happy. Fred, he's
happy with this offseason moves. Yeah, Clippers had a pretty
good off season. Yeah, yeah, you should be happy, all right, Fred? Yeah,
off the top, Fred, I I gotta apologize. I was
I was wrong about what song yesterday. I said that
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they needed to go to Colorado to get off the
schneid and get a fix. You didn't need it was
all they needed was Minnesota to come to town. That's
all they needed. Is that what they needed? Really?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, that's what they do they need. Oh you thought
that was You thought that was easy pickings last night?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What you're saying picks? Easy pickings? Oh yeah, okay, Well
let me tell you something. Not only was it not
easy pickings, it was terrifying.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And there was a point I thought, oh my god,
oh my god, the final out of the game, the
final out.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Of the game. They have the lead Tanner Scott gets
hurt and leaves, which is awful to jag Scott. Were
there two guys on I think, yeah, if he hits
it out, it's tied. Yeah, and there it goes. The
worst guy could have done it too. That was Carlos Carea.
And there it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And you're looking at it and you're thinking to yourself,
this is just going to be a lazy flyball. Then
you're thinking, okay, it's a routine flyball. Then you're thinking, okay,
it's a deep fly ball. And then is it continuing
to travel. You're thinking, oh my god, this cannot be happening.
And if James Outman doesn't get back to the wall
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jump and pull it back in, it's a tie game
and the Dodgers probably go on to lose. So I'm
not so sure that Minnesota was the cure for what ales.
The Dodgers were damn lucky to get out of there
alive last night.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Fred Minnesota's got you know, had so much potential. They're
the ones who had to collapse. Last year had the
best record, and then they collapsed, had the worst record.
In the last fifty games. They're struggling up and down
that lineup, and it was a good team to have
in town, despite the fact that it got a little dicey.
But it got dicey because the Dodgers are really too
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everybody on that on that Minnesota team except for Buxton,
except for Buston the All Star, who's a bad man.
He's a bad man. And but it was it was good.
It was good Will Smith's two home runs, o Tani
home run. PA has got out of the slump.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
What more do you want, Fred, What more can you
get out of that game that you could get out
of Colorado? That they blow them out Rodney, that they
don't end up like that. Another three inches and that
game would have been tied. But let's go through it.
Let's go through it. Since you thought that was easy, Pickens,
and I honestly thought at one point, well, it's about
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time to start drinking. You know, I'm not panicked on
the air. I don't do what I used to do.
I don't sit here and worry. But I'm telling you,
and I haven't in a while. I was about to
go get the four roses bourbon, crack it open.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And go to work. You bet to crack it open.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I swear to God, I was because watching that, I thought, no,
this cannot be happening. So let's get started with Otani.
Otani did not have the kind of outing he had
had in the past. He had to, he struggled a
little bit, he had to work his way out of it.
But I guess in some regards that's a good thing
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because everything is not going to be perfect and he's
going to have to get himself out of trouble, and
that he did do a good job up last night,
would you agree.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, look, he got a taste of what he
does to people on a regular basis, Right, he gets
a taste of somebody leading off a game with a
home run, and he's done that several times to other team,
then it's demoralizing. But when it happens to him as
because he's the pitcher, then you wonder how that affects
him going into his first at bat or his next
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at bat. And it didn't, but but for his out,
and yeah, I think it's a good thing and it
will be continue to be a good thing if he
goes through some's ups and downs and some struggles and
gets the feel of how to work out a situation.
Because everything's not going to be easy. I mean, he's
a phenomenal talent. Look a guy that throws a hundred
and got the kind of breaking stuff and off speed
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stuff that he has and also can do it at
the plate at this left. We haven't seen this before ever. Ever,
you can bring up Babe Roof all you want. Babe
Ruth wasn't this guy. Babe Ruth was not the athlete
Otani and he played it obviously in a different era.
What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Babe Ruth wasn't the Beer League beer lea. You know what?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Training Listen, training was different back then, Rodney. I don't
think you understand. Maybe you've not studied your history. Back then,
the way to training was to have a half a
bottle of bourbon and three steaks and get out there
and play. So I think Babe Ruth is in great
shape for the day.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Things have changed. We've learned a little bit since bab
Ruth's played. Back then, it was a lot, oh give
me a break, smoke a pack break. Not ever, not
everybody looked like Babe Ruth. So let's let's put it
that way. Luke Garrett didn't look like Babe Ruth. He
was a superstar. Die Cobb didn't look like Babe Ruth
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because there could only be one. Yeah, okay, anyway, anyway,
we haven't seen the likes of out tany and but
it is good. It is good that he has a
Knights like this, and sure do we want him to
be perfect? Yeah, and we expect them to be perfect,
just like we expect him at the plate. Every time
comes up. We expect him to hit a home run
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or double or something, and we're frustrated when we strike
he strikes out, and you're like, oh, how did he
strike out? How does that happen? But he's got to
go through the ups and downs on the mound because
that's what's gonna happen in the postseason. He's going to
face the best teams with the best hitters, and not
every every at bat is going to be clean. And
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so he's going to be put in runners at first
and second, second and third with one out. How do
you get out of it? How do you put yourself
out of that? And uh, it's better to get it
done now in the regular season than having it happened
the first time in the playoff game. Yeah, So that
was a good thing. Dustin May look good last night.
He did, he did got extensive work. I love that
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they let him go too, And I like that combination
of him coming after Otani me too, and them working
together like that and letting Deston May take the bulk
of it. That was really good.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And I'll tell you the key for me honestly, with
Dustin May pitching last night, since I have him on
my fantasy team. He got the win, and there was
nothing more important to me last night. Of course, the
Dustin May picking up that win, it was huge.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean, he couldn't get a quality start, couldn't go
enough innings, but he did that win, and that's what
I want to see. So a good night for Dustin May,
A good night for me at the plate. O'tani homer,
which is great. Will Smith had a pair.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Here's the thing. He might be having the quietest best
season in Major League Baseball this year. Yeah, if it
wasn't for Kyle Rally up there in Seattle, everyone be
talking about Will Smith best Catcher of the Year, catcher,
All Star obviously he was an All Star, but MVP
race he would be right in it. But you got
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the guy up in Seattle, who is going off like
crazy and had an unbelievable first half of the season,
that is taking the whole world by storm. And then
on top of that, he wins the home run derby,
so you know, catcher position comes up and everybody's thinking
him first and his whole home. Will Smith, who's just
hitting what three point thirty now almost three twenty something,
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you know, and hit two home runs yesterday, just a steady,
steady season. Normally, guys that start that hot, you know,
over three hundred are in the two nineties. Now, Freddie's
in the two nineties. Now, there's some other guys that
pie Haz was hovering around three hundred at one point
he's dipped, but Will Smith is still way above three hundred,
and yeah, I think he should be in that MVP race.
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You know who he is?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Will Smith is, I think in the minds of the public,
just from a perception standpoint, Mike Trout, Mike Trout would
Mike Trout was really good, Mike Trout having great years
and people knew about it going yeah, but not really headlines, right, Yeah,
it wasn't headlined.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Mike Trout would hit fifty fifty home runs he's still
thirty bases and have one hundred and seven RBIs and
it'd be like ook Hohome, he's playing in Anaheim. And
you know, because they got similar personalities, they don't want
the limelight. They don't talk a whole lot with the media.
They're not fancy, they're not They just go do their job.
And there's not a lot, a whole lot of what
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you know, swagger to them. I mean they swagger when
they play when they're off, but off the field, there's
no swagger, there's no there's no kind of cockiness to
them at all that that puts them in the especially
nowadays in social media or anything like that. They just
go play baseball. That's all they want to do. And
there's no flash to them, which you know, in this
day and age, makes people kind of forget you a
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little bit. Yeah, And I think that's one of the
issues with Will Smith, which is fine, which is fine.
All he needs to do is perform his play, Will
do his speaking for him. But I think that's why
he's under the radar and a lot of people's minds.
Another thing, if you really think about it, does Will
Smith even look like a catcher? Cal Rond looks like
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a catcher, big guy, the big guy, big Dumpster nickname,
and kind of a kind of a bruto brutus kind
of cat you know. And this grungey you see, he
wears dirty shirts on a regular basis. You can see
he picks his clothes out of the dirty clothes hamper
and just puts them on and wears them. Comes to
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the park probably in an old dirty T shirt and
some jeans and and just wants to go play. Will
Smith is clean cut, good looking guy, you know, doesn't
look doesn't look grungy or anything like that. No, he
looks more he looks more like a pitcher or a
or a center fielder than he does a catcher. Right,
that's another thing about him.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, if you're watching nationally and you see the catching
Will Smith, who's Will Oh he can hit a little bit. Well,
that guy doesn't look like a catcher. How long have
you been catching? Where'd he come from?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Seriously, when you look at him, he just doesn't look
like a catcher. But he is having a hell of
a year now. The one thing that happened in the
game last night, and it sadly couldn't have happened at
a better time for the Dodgers, but it's not good.
Was Tanner Scott walked off the mound? Yeah, I don't
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know if Dave had gone on and got him, but
he was in severe trouble again. So all of a sudden,
he threw a pitch and that was it, and he
felt something in his forearm. That's never good. I know
they're doing an MRI today so we'll have results later.
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That is never good. But he just took off walking.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He was done.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And it makes you start to under how long has
his arm been bothering him and did it just get
to a point where he couldn't take it anymore? Because
let's say, for argument's sake, this has been going on
for some time and nobody knew what he didn't say anything,
and that's absolutely a possibility. Maybe that explains what has happened.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
To him this year. Rodney very well could be remember
Suzaki early in the season, he didn't want to tell
anybody he was hurt and just wanted to help the team.
And you know, he started slow, and you know, and
sometimes when you start slow and you're not performing like
you want to, or you think that you should and
you don't want to say anything you want to hurt
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because you want to go back out there and redeem yourself,
and so you're not going to let on that it's
an injury causing this. And that very well could be
the case with Tanner Scott because he certainly did not
look the same as he did last year with San Diego. Again,
different role, as David Bassey said, you know, yesterday, but
still he wasn't the same and sometimes and it's one
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thing not to be the same like once in a while,
but he went to a stretch where he wasn't the
same night after night after night, and that that kind
of can tell you that there's something going on with him.
And we said this, there's something happening with him that
he's not quite right, and it could very will be
something that was bothering him in his forearm that he
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just you know, couldn't take it anymore and came out
of the game last night. You know, you hope that's
not the case that he was pitching injured and that
he would have said something if he was. But oftentimes
guys don't do that. They don't share when they're hurt,
especially if they're struggling.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Can you imagine if it's been this way all year
long and nobody knew. Because I had to be honest
with you, watching him out there, you're thinking this was
not a very good signing. I don't think I'm speaking
out of school here. Watching him this year, he didn't
seem at all like the guy from last season, not
the slightest bit. And you're thinking, how could they miss
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so badly? Because remember they gave him a three year deal, yeah,
said a lot of money dollars yeah, yeah, so and
they normally don't do that, so they had to believe
that this would be the answer and the guy that
could shut the door. And then he goes out and
he's not sharp, he's putting the ball over the plate,
he's missing a little bit. So I thought last night, okay,
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maybe there's an answer.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I hope it's not the answer. I hope he's not heard.
But I got to tell you, you walk off like that,
I'd be let's feel like this. I think i'd be
surprised if he was in the bullpen tonight for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't see that happening. Although we
didn't see Freddy Freeman in the lineup last night either
after getting hitting the wrist, and he certainly was in it,
but for him pitching wise, there, They're gonna be extra
cautious with that and make sure that he is fully
you know, okay before he trots back out there, because
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you know, regardless of of of how he has struggled,
you know, in in the middle of this season, he
still is an arm that they will need in a
stretch run. I just firmly believe that he is an
arm that can get it together and will be a
vital piece to that bullpen as they go down to stretch.
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So they need him, and I don't think they rush
him back given the fact that he just came out
of the game.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, better they get it right, better he gets right. Yeah,
there's no reason to rush now. No, those are.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Guys coming back now, you know yead he looked good,
so he's coming back. And and again you know that's
now coming back. You got some other guys that are there.
You know, also is not as lights out as he
he's been, and we've heard is Kirby Yates of late
has not been really lights out either.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Let me ask you a question. Yeah, are you surprised
by Kirby hs? I am.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know what I was expecting. Honestly, I don't
know what I was expecting, but I know I wasn't
expecting this. Yeah, I ate, and I had not paid
close enough attention, so that's on me. I just read
everything and knew that he was highly sought after during
the off season. I thought, this guy is going to
come out here and just blow people away and mow
him down, and it's going to be a battle to
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see who closes, yes or Tanner Scott.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's right. Oh, there was a debate right there who
the better guy was. When they signed them both, they say, wow,
they got both Tanners and Kirby Yates. Wow. But yeah,
he's uh, he struggled. He struggled a little bit, you know,
and and and giving up. The long ball wasn't in
them with career. Hit the ball off of last night, right,
so you would hit that ball. You see him afterwards,
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You see except bend over and go thank god, Yeah,
thank god, thank god, baby, thank God, baby, thank you,
thank you. Tarzan absolutely absolutely, And you know, talking about pictures,
did you hear about this rich Hill who was forty
five years old is pitching for the Kansas City Royals tonight.
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What the Bishop is back?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
No, they signed him and he's pitching tonight for the Royals.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Uh. That's just goes to show you don't have to
necessarily and Kirshall did this too, you don't have to
necessarily throw one hundred miles an hour because the Bishop
probably is topping out at eighty eight right now. Maybe
maybe I think the Bishop's pa. Now, I couldn't believe
it when I heard that Rich Hilly, the velocity of
his fastball or his change up. You did it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
They're around the same. It's the same pitch. Here's one pitch.
It's a fastball change up he throws. Now, yeah, he's
got that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's great. Though, he's got that quirky motion to that's crazy.
But you know, we love the Bishop because he's he's
a fierce competitor and good for him. Good for him.
He's one of the best guys period. He's a great guy.
Can you imagine.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I don't even know where he was phone rings Hello,
Rich Yeah, sure, Hey listen, we need you on Wednesday
to pitch for the Royals.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Let's get on the plane. I'll be right over are
you in ship, shure, I don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I'll be right over. I'm ready to start. I think
that is the best story of the day. That he
is pitching tonight for Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
That is fantastic. I love that story. And it also
proves he's ready at a moment's notice. He stayed in shape.
You know, you can't just come out and pitching for
the Royals and you've not been, you know, working out
in the bullpen or somewhere. He'd been ready. Good for
him at forty five. At forty five and you're retired,
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sitting at home on the couch, you gotta think the
time is up. I'm not going back. I'm not coming back.
But you know what he was really he was in
the miners the last couple of months. He was just
so he was prepared. He was prepared. But look at
it like this, he's forty five years old, he's in
the miners. He just wants to party. That part, you know,
even that he's he's pitching in the miners that start
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the season at forty five.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's like, why what you still got it? How many
I can't remember the number has he played for? Like
thirteen teams.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
He is tied with Edwin Jackson for most teams played
for by a pitcher at fourteen.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
For fourteen Edwin Jackson. He was with the Dodgers for
a while, he was Dodger prospect. Yes, uh huh, fourteen teams.
You don't buy a house with old what's like a
thirty year mortgage. I'll tell you that right off. No
you don't, No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Just think about it. He's forty five years old, less
than Arizona, Florida. Because you know you're gonna be in
spring training there anyway. Yeah, just right, yeah, get a place.
And the thing is he's just down there pitching because
he loves to. They call him up. I mean, I
don't know his fine. Was he in the Casey organization
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or was he in a just an affiliate or independent.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Their Triple A team. He's been with their Triple A
team since May.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh since May, he's been with the Triple A team.
Oh so he just got May. So he wasn't he
didn't like start to spring training with anybody or anything
like that. No, he just got there in May. What
you're saying. So he got him off the couch in
May and says Hey, warm up, baby, I'm gonna put
you down here in triple A for for him for
a couple of months and then, uh, let's see how
you do. Come on up. I don't know his finances.
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I'm sure he's fine. I'm sure he's made his money now,
he's just doing it to do it? Yeah, why not?
Why not? Good for him? What am I gonna do
forty five play golf every day? No, come on, let
me go pitch a little bit. Okay, Kevin, can you
look this up? I know it's so great. I'm giving
you these assignments. Just we're just sitting here thinking, who's
the oldest guy to ever picked? Oh? Bill Nekro properly
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one of them Necro brothers. And maybe Nolan Ryan, though.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I was gonna my guess would have known Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Uh Cologne? When the cologne he pitched Bartolo Bartolo Cologne. Yeah,
he pitched a long time too.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Remember when Bartolo Cologne was actually hitting a and Cobody
threw a pitch him right in the stomach.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He didn't even react random first bounced off.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Now I guess you have modern day versus old school.
So the oldest player ever to play in a major
league game, and I can't believe this, This can't be real.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Satchel Page was fifty five, fifty something, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Fifty nine, he was damn near sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's right, like that? God? Yeah, yeah, still doing it.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Of a people, other people that you had heard of.
Mini Minoso was fifty six. Wow, let's see all the
way back. White Woolheam was forty nine.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Me Andie Menosa. How old was Olton Nolan Ryan when
he last pitch?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Let me say he was forty six? Yeah you did
mention Nekro he was forty eight, Okay. Julio Franco, who
we know was around forever, was forty nine. Ooh, Franco
last game was in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
First. Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, so not many on that list.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Think about that, you're playing major league baseball and you're
forty nine years old? Yeah? Or how old was Satchel Page?
Sixty nine fifty nine fifty nine? Satchel kids you're pitching
to her weren't even born. They weren't even born, and
you're pitching to these kids. All right, Sat you're going tonight?
Can I get another day? Just one more day.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Before I go out there, please, I just need a
little more rest. Do you have Satchel Page's record in
his final year? Why would I ask you that, Kevin,
like you would know that off the top of your head.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, I do fret he he pitched it exactly one game.
Oh okay, so that was a ceremonial final season, I
guess for him, did not have a record three innings pitched,
allowed one hit, it struck out one.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And prior to that, did he pitch at fifty eight
and fifty seven, fifty six all the way up until
fifty nine, or did they bring him back at fifty
nine to do a ceremonial send off.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
R So it sounds like they brought him back because
he pitched in a nineteen fifty three at the age
of forty six, and then it came back in nineteen
sixty five for that one inning stint or that one
outing got it or wasn't all consecutive seasons?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay? What was his record in his final year of
real pitching?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Let's see give me a second here, right, he was
three and nine three fifty three ERA, still fifty three
ERA at forty six years old. Wow, how'd you press it? Extremely?
By the way, when he was forty five. The year
before that pitched in three complete games. You got twenty
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two year olds. I can't make it five.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
These guys are What do you think happens to the
Bishop tonight? How many indies does the Bishop go? I
think the Bishop goes more than four. Let's see the Bishop.
Who do they play? Who they play? Oh gosh, oh no, Bishop, Bishop,
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not good. This is not a good start for the Bishop. Hey,
come on, o Bishop, you gotta pich tonight? Who were playing?
Oh we're at Chicago like this white Sox. No Bishop
the other side, the north side. You going to the
north side, Bishop to play the cups? Oh god, well,
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look we got to root for him. We love the guys,
so we got to root for the Bishop. I'll be
watching the Bishop.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
One o'clock. Dyllan Hernandez will jump on. He says, it
doesn't matter what happens. Otani must pitch and also hit
for the Dodgers. It has to be that way. Well,
he come back. I bought tickets, but I paid for
a game that doesn't exist. So what do you want
me to do?
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Speaker 2 (25:43):
Hey, yeah yeah, it is Tuesday, July twenty second, Rogan
and Rodney and five seventy LA Sports. Yeah yeah, fred
Dodgers are good. They're back on track now. This is
a good series for them to have right now, Freddy,
this is not This is not Colorado. Don't get me wrong.
I know I said that earlier, but not Colorado. But
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it's a good team to play right now because they're
they're struggling more than the Dodgers are. Because let's hope
it stays that way. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Y'amamoto tonight for the Dodgers, first pitching appearance since the
end of the first half. So it'll be good. Yamamoto
on the hill. You'll hear the game on the radio
station task Ernande's Bobblehead Night. We gave tickets away a
couple of days, so some of our listeners will be
there tonight. One bobblehead per person. Please don't be one
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of those people. You know who you are. You know
who you are. You know the people that walk around
with the bags of bobbleheads. Yes right, you get tickets
from your friends. I don't know what you do. You
know somebody that works there. Please one bibblehead per person.
You only get to see Tao bobble to yourself. Keep
your bobble to yourself. Okay, so some fans charge. Your
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fans are upset. What do you think about this? They
are going to play their season opening game in Brazil. Okay,
well that makes sense. And by the way, if you go, well,
I don't understand why. Here's why. Because everybody's trying to
expand their global footprint. The league is trying to expand it.
Individual clubs are trying to expand it. It expands their
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opportunity for licensing and marketing. So it makes sense and
you're going to see more of it. I think in
the NFL's perfect world, and you know, I don't want
to speak out of school, but then again, who's attending
this class.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think of their perfect world.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
If things had gone very differently here in LA if
the Rams would have moved to Inglewood, the Raiders would
have stayed put, the Chargers would have stayed put. Moreover,
if the Chargers would have stayed put and the Raiders
would have moved to Vegas, I do believe the plan
was to expand by two, two teams.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You'd have the.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Rams here plus a new expansion team in Los Angeles,
and then they go to another market. And I believe
that market would have been London. I believe it would
have been. There was also talk that it could have
been Toronto, but they would have expanded by two. When
Dean Spannels pulled the trigger and moved here, it altered
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the plan.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You think NFL, I mean when they do finally figure
out how to expand, because thirty two, you know, we
East always say this like twenty eighteens when it was
twenty eighteen. Oh that twenty eighteen works, it works. Thirty teams.
Oh yeah, yeah, thirty teams. That's definitely where that's perfect number.
Now it's thirty two and they go to thirty four.
(28:40):
You think that happens anytime in the next five seven years? Yes,
you do. I do you think ever? You think they
ever go back to San Diego.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I certainly think they would be amenable to going back.
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
They'd have to have somebody like Cronky or or Gouggenheim guys,
somebody with big pockets, because California is not gonna do
what some of the other states do in terms of
stadium and subsidizing that, and it's gonna be a bond
issue and all that kind of stuff. But it's gonna
be difficult. But they would have to have. Well, all
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sports nowadays, you gotta have big pockets, but especially if
you're gonna be in California with an expansion team and
going to San Diego, you better have big pockets because
you don't have to pay for that stadium yourself. See.
And here's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
If you're gonna go, if you're gonna expand you wouldn't
want to go to the largest markets possible. London is enormous, Toronto.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Has They've been doing it for years in London, getting
ready for it with Jacksonville is they're like pseudo home
in London, they sell out. I think they would sell
out in a heartbeat. You know, eight games a year,
nine games a year in London, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Then what's the expansion fee for gonna not gonna be oh,
think about it, ten billion to get in the game.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
No, they's gonna be that high. And they're gonna be
that high. But I could see it being close to
a billion to get in. No, it's gonna be more
than that. Oh my god. Maybe what the what did
the Redskins sell for? What? Magic pay six? They paid
six for it? Yeah, okay, it's gonna be more than that.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Whatever those franchises sell for, it's gonna be more than
that to get in the game. Yeah, it could be
eight billion dollars to get in the game. And the
only people are gonna be able to pay that are
people in London, a gigantic market.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
That would be when they think that NFL team in
San Diego that they that they specifically say that it's
got to be someone London based or European base that
owns that team because they can pick and choose. Now right, Yeah,
I don't think so. Here's why the Premier League has
American owners. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You know what they're gonna say, it's somebody with a
really big checkbook, that's what it has to be. Somebody
that can cover this In other words, you can pay
to get in the game, and you can pay to
maintain it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And if you can do that and you haven't been arrested,
we'll consider you. Yeah, we'll take a look at you. Yeah.
I think that's what I wonder why Toronto hasn't been
in the mix before the CFL have the Canadian Football
Canadian Football League has blocked it, and it's just been
If they do that in Toronto, then there goes the Argonauts,
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right they watches the Argonauts anymore. Well, that's not fair.
They'd be the NFL Toronto Argonauts. Yeah, just convert them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
That's what they would do if somebody had a team
in Toronto. But that would blow up the whole Canadian
Football League. Yeah, that would And I don't know if
they want.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That's why it probably hasn't gone to Canada because they
would blow it up. Yeah. On the other hand, there's
the American team in Canada, NFL team in Canad.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it would blow up the whole league, right because
everybody in Canada would root for the NFL team in Canada,
no matter what city it's in, and it would make
the Canadian Football League. The CFL looks minor League. It's
like the big boys are here. Now, yeah, we're here.
Who are you gonna go watch the Hamilton tiger Cats
(32:29):
or the Toronto Argonauts play the New York Giants?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Right right? And every game would be a battle of
two countries. Exactly. Yeah, it would be huge. It'd be huge.
So you don't think, you don't think it goes back
to San Diego, then no, unless somebody's insane. Give me
eight billion dollars. Okay, now, now you don's in San
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Diego that can handle that could support a team back there,
given that they lost one this.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Eight billion to get in Rodney, eight billion to get in. Okay,
you've earned the right. Now pay three billion to build
a stadium. Okay, you're at eleven billion dollars eleven billion.
Will that market support that just to get started eleven
billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
No, it won't. It can't. It's not big enough.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
There's not enough fortune, five hundred companies there, it can't,
It cannot support it. I think the NFL would go
to gigantic mark Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Mexico City could be one that's one close enough to
get to, easy to get to, no different than going
coast to coast in the country. That's where they were.
Now the field big enough population and enough money to
support it too. That stadium, see it's one hundred thousand people. Yeah,
(33:50):
and they sell it out. Yeah. And there's a lot
of money in Mexico City, right, people's been but there's
billionaires on top of billionaires in Mexico City.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So here's the dilemma. Chargers are going to open in Brazil.
Charger fans claim they paid for season seats for a
nine game schedule, one preseason and eight regular season, but
they have not been refunded or given a credit card
or other compensation for the game that was moved to Brazil.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
They're saying, Okay, let's.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
See ten games, nine regular season, one preseason. Great, I'm
in wait a minute, it's only eight regular season games
at so far because one is in Brazil. I should
be refunded my money.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
What do you think? Yeah, they're right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Now they're claiming they haven't, and some of the fans
are going to consider a class action lawsuit against the Chargers.
Gotta tell you haven't talked to the Chargers. I would
be stunned if this wasn't rectified. I would be absolutely
floored if this wasn't taken care of pretty damn quick,
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because there's no way they're gonna make you pay for
something that doesn't exist. That would be the worst case
of bad will ever. And I just can't believe Dean
Spaniels would do that, Honestly, I can't. I mean, I
could be proven wrong, but I don't think he would
ever do that. Give me your money for nine games
but were only playing eight.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
No, No, he's not gonna do that, you know, And that's,
you know, an NFL decision. And obviously it's a it's
a privilege for a team to to get invited. I know,
you know a lot of the coaches and players don't
really enjoy it having to go to a foreign country
and only spend three four days there and get and
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play a regular season game. Be different if it's a
preseason game, but regular season game, you don't necessarily want
to do that. But I get the NFL is trying
to go global, and there's gonna be more of these,
so you get it, get ready for it, and every
team probably at some point it's gonna play team overseas.
But yeah, they gotta they gotta take care of the
fans who bought them tickets. One o'clock.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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Speaker 5 (37:11):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob and Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
All right, now are week we chat with our good
friend Jacob and Ronnie and Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Welcome back, Brad, how are you?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'm good? Thank you, Jacob. That's very kind of you.
Thank you so much for welcoming me and missing me.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
And it makes me It warms the cockles of my heart, Jacob,
what it warms the what the cockles everybody at some
point in their life that wants their cockle warned?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
So, my heart, are we still on the a? Are
we still on the air. It's not as bad as
what you did the other day.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Nothing is that bad. Although you loved it. I thought
it was hilarious. I thought it was the funniest thing
we heard done on the show. Sorry, nobody could hear it,
but it was really funny.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, we dumped it. We dumped it, all right, Jacob.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Let me ask you a question. So the Chargers sold tickets.
I'm coming at you this call. The Charger sold tickets
for nine games. One of the games is being played
in Brazil, so that's only eight games. Some Charger fans
are saying the club will not refund them for the
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missing game.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
If that's true. If that's true, do the fans have
reason to file suit?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
So I think about a month and a half ago.
I had at least three or four friends who have
Charger tickets, and I want to hold that against them.
Reached out to me exactly about this and asking me
if you know, it's something I could take on or
if something I can represent them in, you know. Unfortunately,
it wasn't anything I could do, but you know, we
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really talked about this in detail, and it was interesting
because one of their season ticket holders is very involved
with them. Really I mean push the envelope and they said, absolutely,
we are not going to rEFInd. And it's a very
Charger kind of thing. I hate to say it because
I hear, you know, their mentality as it comes down to,
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you know, what they do with you know, majority of
the people we work with, not only the fans, as
being just this mentality that they're not in a position
to take care of people. And the reality becomes is
youth sell tickets for people so that they have an
opportunity in order to appear at a game. Unless the
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Chargers are going to you know, provide plane tickets and
allow these individuals to show up, they're overcharging them and
I think that's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, first, I do want to say this, whatever you
said about the Chargers. I don't think I've heard that
that they don't care about people or take care of people.
I don't know that to be true. So I just
want to say that. But it is troubling to me
that a few of your friends actually brought this up
to you, because when we just did it, Jacob, I
sat here and said, there's no way they would do that.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
But here's the thing, Fret, Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't
the Chargers come out immediately when that game was announced
to go to Brazil? They come out immediately. Hey, all
season ticket holders, all season ticket holders who bought for
nine games, we are reimbursing you that one game. What
do you think the Rams or the Dodgers or the
Lakers would have done if that were the case.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Exactly. I agree with that, and I'm not trying to
say something against the Chargers, just to clear the record.
These are things that has been told to me by
actual individuals that came to me and asked me if
I can represent them in this situation. So it just
doesn't seem like it's the fair thing to do, especially
not in a town where you have so many options
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in order to go see games, to be fans of
so many different great teams. I don't think that's the
way you, you know, you treat your fans. And it
may be because they may still be one foot in
and one foot out, but I just, you know, not
not something that i'd heard before. But I've been hearing this,
so yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Don't you Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it.
I mean, I mean, Fred, don't you think they should
have came out right away and said something.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I'm shocked. I'm shocked when I saw this. I said
it on the air. There is no way they would
do that.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
No way.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I said that last segment, Rodney, But I didn't expect
Jacob to come on and go, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
People, but I'm asking you they did do it. They
did do it, because they haven't they haven't rectified the situation.
This Brazil game has been in the on the schedule
for what months now? Right, No, I agree with you.
I'm because I'm asking so, so, why do you think
they didn't come out right away and say let's take
care of the season ticket holders who bought those nine games.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm the point, and they went to the that people
feeling like they need to reach out to an attorney
to ask if they can be represented in order to
be able to get their money back. So hopefully that
stance would change and you know, all of it would
go away. But that's basically the latest I was, you know,
involved and heard about Jacob.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
While you're here, let's talk about some of the new
laws that are being instituted. A speed cameras, speeding ticket finds.
What's going on with that.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, So last week we spent some time talking about
the hands off your phone and obviously, you know, we
discussed the fact that starting July first, a second cell
phone violation within thirty six months will add one point
to your driving records. So that's something that has you know,
people up in arms because a lot of people are
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on their phones while they're driving, social media, you know, texting,
doing whatever they need to do. So number one, you
can't do that anymore. Number two, there's a speed camera
automation they're doing. They're launching a program in cities like
La San Francisco and Oakland where site, you know, citations
are going to be issued to the actual registered owner
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and not necessarily the driver. So the registered owner is
going to get a ticket if somebody runs a you know,
runs a speeding camera, and that's not good because in
the old days, if the camera would catch the face
of somebody and then you'd go to court and the
person who was driving was not the same person, then
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they would dismiss it. But now they're saying that they're
potentially going to be giving tickets to the registered owners.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I'm say so, Jacob, Jacob, is Jacob, I borrow
your car? Right?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I borrow your car and I go through a light
and the camera catches me and you can see my face.
The ticket's going to go to you as a registered
owner of the car.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
That's what the extent of the explanation has been. Now
obviously people are going to go up in court. I
haven't seen you know, the you know, the version of
it and the specific aspect, but that's what they've presented
out there to that point.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Wow, So you will be your kid is driving and
you own the car, but your kid is driving your
car and they get caught on camera, then it's all
back on you.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's the way it sounds. Yes, another thing that's interesting
that's got a bunch of people up in arms, sliding
scale for speeding fines. So they're saying that lower income
drivers may now qualify for reduced penalties when it comes
to those speeding fines, because you know, when you go
to court, they tell you, hey, you were ten or
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fifteen miles above the speed limit, so you got to
find and then they add a bunch of other fines.
I guess what they're trying to do now is depending
on where your income level is, is that you may
qualify in order to get reductions. One more new crosswalk laws.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Wait wait, wait, stop on that one. Stop on that one.
You're telling me.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
If you and I are driving down the street, we're
next to each other, right, and we're both speeding, right,
and we both get stopped. If you make more money
than me, your fine could be higher than mine because
I don't make as much money.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Correct, And that's unconstitutional. You can't find people based on
their income level. I mean, if there is a tractic
violation has a fine, then everyone must say it. But yeah,
that is another one.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Jacob, I love you, man, but in our day and age,
what's happening over the last year, everything is on constitutional.
What's going on in that country?
Speaker 3 (45:52):
I just have to throw that out there.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, no, I get it. It doesn't surprise me. I
guess I guess Fred was surprised. But it doesn't surprise
me at all. This is happening now.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, I feel you, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
We got another one. We got another one that says
no pretextual stops, so police can no longer stop drivers
just for minor equipment issues like you know, in the
old days you got to brooke in tailight boom, they
light you up. Now they're saying that those pretextual stops
unless there is directly affect safety, which again is a
(46:28):
slippery slope. Of course, the police officer is going to
pull you over because one of your headlights is out
and said that is not safe. So you know, I
don't really know what the whole purpose of you know,
all of these are, but you know, these seem to
be the laws that you know, we got to deal.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
They just can't pull you over for just being just
because they want to pull you over because you're driving
a nice car, or you're saying they just say the
we're there, you represent somebody that that were we're looking after,
or we look like some uspect that we have on
our radar and just pull you over for no reason.
They can't do that anymore. What are you saying?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
No, that's not what I'm saying that. What I'm saying
is that they cannot pull you over for minor equipment.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Oh okay, okay, what what what is minor? Though? What
is constitute minor?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
For example? You know, they say a broken tail light
could be constant, you know, constituted as you know, minor
or if you don't have you've got a broken side
mirror or if you have something like that, they say that,
what's you know, what's a big deal? But you know
you could get pulled over for that. But now they're
saying you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So, and I know people, you know, if you if
you have like a sports car or something, oftentimes people
don't put the front plate on, right, Okay, I know
people have been pulled over for that. You don't have
your front plate on? I have, Okay, you've been pulled over, So, Jacob,
what you're saying is they can't do that anymore unless
they say, because you don't have your front plate on,
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it's dangerous because we can't figure.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Out who you are.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
That is correct. And I'm one of those people who
has been pulled over because I hate putting that front places.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I do too, I do too.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yeah, yes that is. But again, you know, there's the
slippery slope with all of this because they can always
come up with their own reasons and then now you've
got to dispute it. Now you've got to show up
in front of a judge and they got to make
a decision. They're not just going to go away. It's
not going to stop them from pulling you over. But
apparently the legislature is trying to make you know some
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changes to the laws, and I feel like at least
it's important for our you know, our listeners to know
about them.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
But if you do get pulled over for the.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
No license plate or the tail light, and you even
know when you're your head okay, this isn't going anywhere,
you know that you still have to take the time
to go to court and deal with the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
T out of your day. It's still anxiety.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
And as usual, people will probably pay for it, and
they'll still get that payment because some people will never
put their time to go fight things like that. Yep,
that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
So what are the laws?
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I hate to say it. You know, I will tell you.
From all the laws that I just you know, went through,
the one that I think makes the most sense is
that is the cell phone because truly, truly, I've seen,
I mean I've driven myself. I see as I'm driving,
somebody to my left, veering straight into me, almost hitting
me this morning, and when I look over, she is
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on her cell phone, she's looking at something, she's got
a baby in the back, and if I'm not aware,
that's an accident. So you know that that particular law,
even though it's got people in arms, I do believe
it's a safety law. And you know I'm not against
but hands free.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Hands free cell phone use is still available.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
You can still do that, right absolutely. They just don't
want you having your phone in your hand. And when
you get told, you say, well, I was on ways
and I was trying to figure out where to go,
That's why I had it in my hand. They're basically,
you know, forcing everybody to put that phone down or
put it on one of those stands, or you know,
make sure that you're not picking it up, you know,
in the middle of your driving.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, all right, Jacob, good advice. Thanks for coming on.
Today thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Thank you guys, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
One hour down.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
When we come back, our buddy Dylan Hernandez. Sometimes there's
fireworks when Dylan is here, and he'll be on the
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